I went from HOTAS w/pedals to dual stick myself. It's the most accurate for flight sim value but can get a little more tiring to play sometimes if you can't get a comfortable angle and anchor the rolling/twisting of the chair and pedals. If things are loose you end up by reflex using your abs and lower back to stabilize the chair or pedals. If the seat is fixed and rudders bolted down like in a realistic flight sim pit its very comfortable. You'll have to try it for yourself though as its all personal taste and comfort. Virpil uses a cool mechanical design for the actuation of the pedals IMHO.
Yes! Pedals plz @ Virpil help this fella out he makes slick videos that are helpful and entertaining! @BlackMaze really curious what you would map to the pedals. You currently have everything covered with the way your used to playing, but i'm thinking pedals could be either roll (most common use probably) or up/down thrust. If you did roll you could make your right stick left and right be up and down instead of roll, but this might be hard to adapt to, and you might occasionally go up and down as your simply trying to go forward or back. Been looking at your exact joysticks from Virpil for a while, but just enjoying waiting. When i first looked at virpil they did not have the sticks available that you use now, and i love the two xbox joysticks on the Constellation Alpha sticks, for me negates my need to use a keyboard (mostly - still need some shortcuts, like you have on your hand-keyboard). Thx! - Update bought the same joysticks/bases, would have used a referral code if you had one.
I love the idea of having a half keyboard so you don’t have to switch around so much! which one do you have? The layout looks pretty nice and i haven’t seen quite the same thing elsewhere.
I would have appreciated it more if you just went into your settings and demonstrated it that way. Can't any other Virpil videos and this video layout makes it hard to follow.
Glad you mentioned rudder pedals, as I was thinking that is something that may be more natural for me when using sticks. I'd love to see them have pedals and witness you utilize them!
Great vid :) Definitely would love to see a follow up piece about the rudder pedals. Though at the moment I'm seriously considering upgrading my pair of Delta's to a pair of Alpha's. Just gotta click that BUY button and accept the pain of the exchange rate and delivery fees :(
Nice video could you happen to do a more on the viral software. I never New you could change the trigger for missile mode to a switch. I will have to go look at that.
I love the virpil controllers but I haven't actually set them up yet as I am waiting for the pedals to arrive, but I seem to agree with the setup you have meaning it works for my brain when I think about the button allocations that you setup, is it possible to have a file that you can share so when I set my controllers and pedal I can quickly use your setup?
Excellent video, even a year old. HEY VIRPIL, talk to this guy about rudder pedals. Perhaps like the ones I ordered, along with all the other stuff based in part from this dude's work.
So I got the last parts of my Virpil setup last night, and just put them together and configured them just now. I had wanted to integrate the pedals into my SC control scheme, they would give me three new axis's" 1) pedals left and right 2) left brake 3) right brake I just want to say, they are sturdy as hell and well boxed. My box was damaged in transit, no issues to the device. And they are an absolute unit. All you need to do is screw the pedals you want onto the swing arms, plug in the cable and it's ready to be setup with the software. Stabilitywise, I have carpet in this room, but the pedals are heavy and on nice adjustable rubber feet. I think you'll have no issues with the pedals moving no matter what kind of floor you have. My reservations for using the pedals in Star Citizen; the stock spring and cam dont have a clear center, which is perfect for aircraft, but for SC I think I'd like a center to know when I'm there. Especially if I use it for roll, which was my first idea, with up and down on the brake pedals. I try to think of a use for an axis with no clear center and I can't think of how to use the pedals along with the rest of my Virpil setup. For the moment, I'm going to use the two Alphas and my throttle for Star Citizen. If I don't end up using the pedals, perhaps I'll buy one of the button boxes to fill out the SC 4 controller limit. I think you'd get more use out of a throttle than pedals if you were wanting to add more Virpil goodness. Or perhaps the two button boxes? To me, the throttle is a nice button box in Star Citizen, and I can use the two separate throttle leavers and flaps lever in my SC setup. The fact that the 6 center buttons are set up for 5 banks, making them 30 buttons is a big plus.
You mentioned that you had removed all dead zones in Star Citizen. What are dead zones and how did you remove them? Great Video, I have got a couple of Virpil Alpha's and apart from Pitch Roll and Yaw I'm a bit overwhelmed choosing bindings for all the other controls. This and your other film about ship movement have been such a great help.
You can see my deadzones at 12:41 -- They are set to 0! Deadzones are spaces where your joystick movements don't do anything. You should already have a tiny bit of deadzone in your Virpil software so no need for any extra in the game!
@@BlackMaze Ah thanks BM, I think I have probably already done that, was it when I installed the Virpil software and wiggled both sticks for the first time? 👍
Hey MAze, how do you get the left stick to behave like the right stick for strafing as you have it setup? My right stick works like yours but the left stick pinky lever is wide open and when i pull it in it closes. Tryna fix it to start closed then pull lever to open. I have virpils as you do but this has been a tricky issue for so very long and havent really been able to figure it out. Your help would be greatly appreciated.
I would be extremely appreciative of a rudder pedal binding video and it would be pretty awesome if you could get your hands on a mongoose t50 cm3 throttle as well
Nice video and I would be interested to see if you like flight pedals. I am on an X55 Hotas and coming from ED I used the 4 way hat switch on the throttle for up/down/left/right/strafe along with all flight operations + COunter measures. The Right stick is for all things Fire controls/targeting and flight mode.
Well done BlackMaze, thanks for the keybinds that we can use and adjust. Was having quite some difficulties to adjust after playing ED for the last 3 years. While with ED I had to use Joystick Gremlin to use all the many buttons, in SC all buttons get accepted. Having your same VIrpil setup, this was a very convenient review having your review on these Virpil settings. @Virpil. please give Blackmaze a pedals set so he can review and give us a good review. I spent over €1600 on Virpil and thanks to reviews like these, so they're definitely paying off. Well done and tnx again Blackmaze! o7
Depends on the chair, right? :D For me it was 4 bolts to take off the rests, mount the Monstertech on and put the bolts back. Very easy. The Monstertech stuff looks a little complicated but their included manuals are PERFECT.
I'll have to rewatch this a few times. I have a bazillion buttons, switches, rotaries, etc, but am very new to SC. I spent my last two weeks unable to get by a major annoying thing where it sees both of my virpils as the same sometime, or if it's working, switches them. NO MORE. I now use vJoy hidhide and joystick gremlin. I have 13 controllers, winwing full mip and several throttles with the ability to have everything hooked up at the same time (rarely do, just when showing it off to a visitor). Red bird rudder pedals, virpil left and right alpha primes, but until last night I couldn't use anything without issues. The apps mentioned, I can now assign various axis, buttons, thrust levers from numerous controllers and have them all seen as one joystick. This video reminded me of a few binds I didn't do that I should, so thank you much. It's great to be able to lean over to throw a switch, or perform a button press on a different panel, but it's funny that with all I've noted that I need to add from you as well as all the ones I mapped last night, I have less than 50 binds, haha.
What is the name of your mini keyboard? I just bought the Razer Tarturus pro and I'm not sure I like it. The Redragon looks easier to use, but I also really like yours.
Hey man the XML file is gonezo - I just came back to the game and had a profile almost identical to this and was wondering if you could drop your keybinds for 3.17
I've been through the mappings a few times and I was wondering if I'm just missing it, but is there a way to map individual screens of the mobi glass? All I can find is the mobi itself, and the map. Thanks!
any chance for an updated version of the keybinds? as it seems like its no longer working or am doing something wrong. bind are there but no doing anything(possible settings issue in vpc's software?)
I'm having an issue with the Z (twist) axis not being picked up in star citizen for yaw. It seems to function as buttons and I can map yaw left & yaw right to it but I cannot get it to register as an axis. Any suggestions?
What I'd like to see is your setup in the Virpil software. I have errors with the left base and don't know if I did a mistakes or if the gear is not working properly...
@@BlackMaze In the VPC configuration tool, it would be cool to see the BUTTON screen for R and L grips please ! I want to see if there are differences. I use 2 Constellation Alpha with MongoosT50-CM2 bases and the CM2 throttle (not the latest 3rd version). Since I installed a new SSD, Windows can't see the throttle anymore :( Damned Unknown USB Device (Port Reset Failed) !!!
since my thrustmaster sticks have most buttons on the base of the sticks I ordered pedals a while ago but they're still out of stock :( I planned to move the up/down strafe frome the Z-axis on my left sick tto the pedals tilt motion and the yaw from the right Z-axis to the pedals push/pull motion... it would free the Z-axis' of both sticks for other functions...
I got the slider 1 to work (strafe up) on my Left Constellation Alpha: but having trouble with the strafe down on the Right Constellation Alpha do you have any insights you would be able to share?
OMG THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now I just need to save money and manage to buy some. TRY THE RUTTER PEDDLES. I would love to get some one day, and if you do it and make a video I can find out if its worth getting or not.
Having an issue with throttle forward/back keybinding (HOSAS VPC Cons-Alpha). It's bound to the Y-axis on the left stick, when I push forward or pull back on the stick the ship will only move backwards! Any y-axis (+/-) movement results in the ship always moving in the same direction.
Great video, thanks for sharing your key binds! Which springs do you use? Also, would love to see this updated with pedals from Virpil. I’m personally using MFGs, and they are really awesome but I may consider switching over to keep everything under one brand.
Dear BlackMaze, thank you for both movies regarding your setup and keybindings for dual Virpil HOSAS. There are so awesome that I watched them few times and couldn't resist and ordered my joystick pair. :) Instead of your half keyboard I ordered their control panel #1. And I also plan to use the VoiceAttack - did you try it? However I didn't notice in the movies that you switched your cams to CosmoSim "No center!". Would you be so kind to tell us a little more which cams you tested, why you selected CosmoSim (No-Center) and if there is a big difference between them? I understand that you switched those cams in both joysticks, correct? And if you could say a word about the yaw and roll axis. The default StarCitizen setting is X for yaw and rotation for roll. You have them opposite. There are some ytb movies explaining that in space sims it "should" be used as that for more control (X axis is "longer" - more precise). Your settings are more like for standard plane/helicopter sims. I would be grateful to hear your view on that. And if we talk about axis - have you considered joystick rotation for the vertical thrust control? As a beginner to HOSAS I could learn any configuration so looking for optimal start. And Yes, if you get rudder pedals it would be great to see your review! Virpil please take notice. BR /mb
hey i was on the web side and not sure what the diffrece betwene these 2 base mounts is. there is 1 for 190€ and 1 for 290€. at this price range for two sticks i dont want to buy the wrong set
Cannot get my dual virpils to work. Both are flashed with profiles created and all buttons pass (all via vpc software), but only my left will open in control panel, the right says there is a problem. Star citizen see's the same axis no matter which controller I touch, even though both have unique usb ID's in the windows registry, thus should also be treated as individual controls in any game. It's driving me nuckinig futs!
Hi, Did you inverted behaviour of the Button 1 you use for hand break? Or you use it without modification (so break is when your toggle isfurther away from joystick?)
I'm not sure if this would make the pedals worth the purchase for you, but what I found I like is rather than have the up and down on the brake levers for the sticks, I have up and down bound to the pedal action of the pedals. So not the main throw of the pedals, but the "wheel brake" part where the foot rest moves like a car pedal. Right one for up, left one for down. Feels more intuitive than using the brakes, and one less thing for my aiming hand to be doing. I would have liked to move my rotation to the main throw of the pedals, but it's turning out to be really hard to not rotate off my right Z Axis. With some time I might be able to learn the muscle memory to get roll off my aiming hand. Could be good for you if you get pedals.
Your previous video made me want them, and this video made me buy them :) Still wondering if there is anyone out there using both Z-axis, and is then still able to press all the buttons while dog fighting? Worth mentioning: for the left-hand the slider (lower trigger) is by default 100 -> 0% and you need to uncheck 'inversion' and then save the axis AND the device (big green button up top). Thought mine was broke at first :)
@@BlackMaze You are my last hope. If you have a donate button let me know and I will toss a fiver your way. How do you get your sliders to recognize in Star Citizen? The game only sees the both sliders acting as one. So if I change the right slider to strafe up, then the left slider on the (virpil left) will also strafe up. I can't seem to get the game to recognize the difference between the two. The controllers are not being seen as one, but the slider is... Any idea how to fix this?
def want you to try pedals, hooning with full immersion with your skills would be a sight to behold. already got my eyes on this virpil setup once i master my dual t16000m
Amazing flying ! I really love this setup, do you have a list of all the Virpil accessories you are currently using in this setup please ? I. I’m coming from an X55 but I want a lot more precision. Thanks
I love your videos! Please keep making more Star Citizen videos! The Pedro ending was a nice closing bliss in my opinion. I would love to see those pedal setup btw ;)
Trying to use the slider "brake" levels as up and down strafe, but they seem far too sensitive to use for me, no matter what curves I try. I basically want the first 50% of the slider to be slow for take off / descend but it seems to just go immediately to like 20+ m/s. What am I doing wrong?
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I'd love to see a pedal set up for this. If Virpil can make that happen it would be awesome.
This is the way.
can you update the XML-Link please? that would be awsome!
Sadly, the mappings are no longer available in the URL. It would be great to an updated version of those :)
hi, the keybindings file is not showing up when clicked. Is there a way that I can access to it?
Do you have a profile I can download for these. I can figure it out and it’s stressing me out
I went from HOTAS w/pedals to dual stick myself. It's the most accurate for flight sim value but can get a little more tiring to play sometimes if you can't get a comfortable angle and anchor the rolling/twisting of the chair and pedals. If things are loose you end up by reflex using your abs and lower back to stabilize the chair or pedals. If the seat is fixed and rudders bolted down like in a realistic flight sim pit its very comfortable. You'll have to try it for yourself though as its all personal taste and comfort. Virpil uses a cool mechanical design for the actuation of the pedals IMHO.
Invest in rubber couch cups to stop glide. They work well with chair rollers.
Yes! Pedals plz @ Virpil help this fella out he makes slick videos that are helpful and entertaining! @BlackMaze really curious what you would map to the pedals. You currently have everything covered with the way your used to playing, but i'm thinking pedals could be either roll (most common use probably) or up/down thrust. If you did roll you could make your right stick left and right be up and down instead of roll, but this might be hard to adapt to, and you might occasionally go up and down as your simply trying to go forward or back. Been looking at your exact joysticks from Virpil for a while, but just enjoying waiting. When i first looked at virpil they did not have the sticks available that you use now, and i love the two xbox joysticks on the Constellation Alpha sticks, for me negates my need to use a keyboard (mostly - still need some shortcuts, like you have on your hand-keyboard). Thx! - Update bought the same joysticks/bases, would have used a referral code if you had one.
I love the idea of having a half keyboard so you don’t have to switch around so much! which one do you have? The layout looks pretty nice and i haven’t seen quite the same thing elsewhere.
Now you made me want 2 Virpils .... Expensive as hell and I don't know if they can ship to me, but I want them now. Badly :D
Name of the rassberry on the side? aka the half keyboard.
I would have appreciated it more if you just went into your settings and demonstrated it that way. Can't any other Virpil videos and this video layout makes it hard to follow.
Thanks for the video... the XML link is missing, are you still offering this?
zero out the dead zones respect
Glad you mentioned rudder pedals, as I was thinking that is something that may be more natural for me when using sticks. I'd love to see them have pedals and witness you utilize them!
Great vid :) Definitely would love to see a follow up piece about the rudder pedals. Though at the moment I'm seriously considering upgrading my pair of Delta's to a pair of Alpha's. Just gotta click that BUY button and accept the pain of the exchange rate and delivery fees :(
the alpha's are a bit affordable now that the primes have been released.
Nice video could you happen to do a more on the viral software. I never New you could change the trigger for missile mode to a switch. I will have to go look at that.
thank you for sharing - much appreciated! Love the videos.
Any Chance to update the Mappings Link ?
Great video, thanks for the detailed explanations! One ask is could you put up the binding XML again? It's a broken link.
I love the virpil controllers but I haven't actually set them up yet as I am waiting for the pedals to arrive, but I seem to agree with the setup you have meaning it works for my brain when I think about the button allocations that you setup, is it possible to have a file that you can share so when I set my controllers and pedal I can quickly use your setup?
Excellent video, even a year old. HEY VIRPIL, talk to this guy about rudder pedals. Perhaps like the ones I ordered, along with all the other stuff based in part from this dude's work.
And maybe send me a shipping notification!
I’ve given up 😅 Glad you found it useful!
So I got the last parts of my Virpil setup last night, and just put them together and configured them just now. I had wanted to integrate the pedals into my SC control scheme, they would give me three new axis's"
1) pedals left and right
2) left brake
3) right brake
I just want to say, they are sturdy as hell and well boxed. My box was damaged in transit, no issues to the device. And they are an absolute unit. All you need to do is screw the pedals you want onto the swing arms, plug in the cable and it's ready to be setup with the software. Stabilitywise, I have carpet in this room, but the pedals are heavy and on nice adjustable rubber feet. I think you'll have no issues with the pedals moving no matter what kind of floor you have.
My reservations for using the pedals in Star Citizen; the stock spring and cam dont have a clear center, which is perfect for aircraft, but for SC I think I'd like a center to know when I'm there. Especially if I use it for roll, which was my first idea, with up and down on the brake pedals. I try to think of a use for an axis with no clear center and I can't think of how to use the pedals along with the rest of my Virpil setup. For the moment, I'm going to use the two Alphas and my throttle for Star Citizen. If I don't end up using the pedals, perhaps I'll buy one of the button boxes to fill out the SC 4 controller limit.
I think you'd get more use out of a throttle than pedals if you were wanting to add more Virpil goodness. Or perhaps the two button boxes? To me, the throttle is a nice button box in Star Citizen, and I can use the two separate throttle leavers and flaps lever in my SC setup. The fact that the 6 center buttons are set up for 5 banks, making them 30 buttons is a big plus.
You mentioned that you had removed all dead zones in Star Citizen. What are dead zones and how did you remove them?
Great Video, I have got a couple of Virpil Alpha's and apart from Pitch Roll and Yaw I'm a bit overwhelmed choosing bindings for all the other controls. This and your other film about ship movement have been such a great help.
You can see my deadzones at 12:41 -- They are set to 0! Deadzones are spaces where your joystick movements don't do anything. You should already have a tiny bit of deadzone in your Virpil software so no need for any extra in the game!
@@BlackMaze Ah thanks BM, I think I have probably already done that, was it when I installed the Virpil software and wiggled both sticks for the first time? 👍
Hey MAze, how do you get the left stick to behave like the right stick for strafing as you have it setup? My right stick works like yours but the left stick pinky lever is wide open and when i pull it in it closes. Tryna fix it to start closed then pull lever to open. I have virpils as you do but this has been a tricky issue for so very long and havent really been able to figure it out. Your help would be greatly appreciated.
I would be extremely appreciative of a rudder pedal binding video and it would be pretty awesome if you could get your hands on a mongoose t50 cm3 throttle as well
I've tried dual sticks so m any times but keep going back to standard HOTAS and rudder. My brain is so hard wired to traditional flight controls.
Watch. This game was actually created by an alien race to find the best pilots (just like The Last Star Fighter), and guys like you are shoe-ins.
Nice video and I would be interested to see if you like flight pedals. I am on an X55 Hotas and coming from ED I used the 4 way hat switch on the throttle for up/down/left/right/strafe along with all flight operations + COunter measures. The Right stick is for all things Fire controls/targeting and flight mode.
Well done BlackMaze, thanks for the keybinds that we can use and adjust. Was having quite some difficulties to adjust after playing ED for the last 3 years. While with ED I had to use Joystick Gremlin to use all the many buttons, in SC all buttons get accepted. Having your same VIrpil setup, this was a very convenient review having your review on these Virpil settings. @Virpil. please give Blackmaze a pedals set so he can review and give us a good review. I spent over €1600 on Virpil and thanks to reviews like these, so they're definitely paying off. Well done and tnx again Blackmaze! o7
I have been looking at those monstertech mounts for a while now for my dual TCMs. How was it to take apart your chair and put them on? Easy/hard?
Depends on the chair, right? :D For me it was 4 bolts to take off the rests, mount the Monstertech on and put the bolts back. Very easy. The Monstertech stuff looks a little complicated but their included manuals are PERFECT.
Thank you for this! Are you using the same controls/bindings still?
could i get a copy of your bindings as i cant get the link to open.much appreciated if you could and your vidoes are awsome
Love this set up, but when I use my sliders 1 and 2 for strafe, it acts like a button and not an axis… how do i fix that?
Could you please put the exact link to the monstertech mounts that you're using ? thanks!!
That's a beautiful setup, but it's ~$1,000 for just the sticks and bases.
Hey. Do you still have your keybindings? The file does not seem to be there anymore.
Really convinced me to sell my t16k's and get some virpil sticks.
I have the "basic" Virpil Gladiator and I really like it
can we get the xml please?
Do you know if you can upload your xml keybindings again?
I'll have to rewatch this a few times. I have a bazillion buttons, switches, rotaries, etc, but am very new to SC. I spent my last two weeks unable to get by a major annoying thing where it sees both of my virpils as the same sometime, or if it's working, switches them. NO MORE. I now use vJoy hidhide and joystick gremlin. I have 13 controllers, winwing full mip and several throttles with the ability to have everything hooked up at the same time (rarely do, just when showing it off to a visitor). Red bird rudder pedals, virpil left and right alpha primes, but until last night I couldn't use anything without issues. The apps mentioned, I can now assign various axis, buttons, thrust levers from numerous controllers and have them all seen as one joystick. This video reminded me of a few binds I didn't do that I should, so thank you much. It's great to be able to lean over to throw a switch, or perform a button press on a different panel, but it's funny that with all I've noted that I need to add from you as well as all the ones I mapped last night, I have less than 50 binds, haha.
Virpil gear is so nice
What is the name of your mini keyboard?
I just bought the Razer Tarturus pro and I'm not sure I like it. The Redragon looks easier to use, but I also really like yours.
Just a cheap Chinese wasd half keyboard.
You mentioned 1:1 linear for the grip axes. Where is that setting in the VPC config tool?
Any chance you can re-upload your export mapping?
Why don't you just use the joystick while on foot as well?
My HOSASAMAKAFOP set up is perfect for me
Please share link for the mounts. I want to get this setup too.
Was considering getting this but for desk, not sure it's worth dropping $800 when flight/space sims aren't my main genre though.
hi, thanks for your video. Why your keybindings XML do not working? why i can't choose your kibindings layout ingame ? whot i have to do ? please help
Cant help you there. Maybe cause of patches.
Hey man the XML file is gonezo - I just came back to the game and had a profile almost identical to this and was wondering if you could drop your keybinds for 3.17
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I've been through the mappings a few times and I was wondering if I'm just missing it, but is there a way to map individual screens of the mobi glass? All I can find is the mobi itself, and the map. Thanks!
any chance for an updated version of the keybinds? as it seems like its no longer working or am doing something wrong. bind are there but no doing anything(possible settings issue in vpc's software?)
I’ll see about doing a new video!
I'm having an issue with the Z (twist) axis not being picked up in star citizen for yaw. It seems to function as buttons and I can map yaw left & yaw right to it but I cannot get it to register as an axis.
Any suggestions?
Verify and confirm first if the axis is correctly moving in your Virpil software.
That link with the XML is broken >:(
Any chance of getting that XML link?
Virpil! Please send this man some pedals!!!
What I'd like to see is your setup in the Virpil software. I have errors with the left base and don't know if I did a mistakes or if the gear is not working properly...
Let me know if there is a specific screen you'd like to see.
@@BlackMaze In the VPC configuration tool, it would be cool to see the BUTTON screen for R and L grips please ! I want to see if there are differences. I use 2 Constellation Alpha with MongoosT50-CM2 bases and the CM2 throttle (not the latest 3rd version).
Since I installed a new SSD, Windows can't see the throttle anymore :(
Damned Unknown USB Device (Port Reset Failed) !!!
since my thrustmaster sticks have most buttons on the base of the sticks I ordered pedals a while ago but they're still out of stock :( I planned to move the up/down strafe frome the Z-axis on my left sick tto the pedals tilt motion and the yaw from the right Z-axis to the pedals push/pull motion... it would free the Z-axis' of both sticks for other functions...
Check out Buzzkiller's bindings for Thrustmaster sticks, puts a lot of controls on the sticks themselves
@@rookmorrigan8379 that's what I'm planning once my pedals come eventualy
How and where do you throttle? Up and down
I got the slider 1 to work (strafe up) on my Left Constellation Alpha: but having trouble with the strafe down on the Right Constellation Alpha do you have any insights you would be able to share?
Is this game even playable/enjoyable with a Thrustmaster T16000M FCS and keyboard?
Absolutely -- One of the best guys I play with uses keyboard + stick! HOKAS :)
@@BlackMaze Thank you! I didn't want to start out on the wrong foot. Wish me luck!
For the Cosmo cams, did you order the soft-center option or no center option?
No center!
Good video thanks. For my creazy setup buttons :) fire like akcelerator ... my x55 is broken a buy virpil bud only horas nit two joy. Nice day
OMG THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now I just need to save money and manage to buy some. TRY THE RUTTER PEDDLES. I would love to get some one day, and if you do it and make a video I can find out if its worth getting or not.
Having an issue with throttle forward/back keybinding (HOSAS VPC Cons-Alpha).
It's bound to the Y-axis on the left stick, when I push forward or pull back on the stick the ship will only move backwards!
Any y-axis (+/-) movement results in the ship always moving in the same direction.
Great video, thanks for sharing your key binds! Which springs do you use?
Also, would love to see this updated with pedals from Virpil. I’m personally using MFGs, and they are really awesome but I may consider switching over to keep everything under one brand.
The loose ones. I forgot the name!
@@BlackMaze Ditto! Thanks for the response, and looking forward to the next video!!
Dear BlackMaze,
thank you for both movies regarding your setup and keybindings for dual Virpil HOSAS.
There are so awesome that I watched them few times and couldn't resist and ordered my joystick pair. :)
Instead of your half keyboard I ordered their control panel #1.
And I also plan to use the VoiceAttack - did you try it?
However I didn't notice in the movies that you switched your cams to CosmoSim "No center!". Would you be so kind to tell us a little more which cams you tested, why you selected CosmoSim (No-Center) and if there is a big difference between them? I understand that you switched those cams in both joysticks, correct?
And if you could say a word about the yaw and roll axis. The default StarCitizen setting is X for yaw and rotation for roll.
You have them opposite. There are some ytb movies explaining that in space sims it "should" be used as that for more control (X axis is "longer" - more precise). Your settings are more like for standard plane/helicopter sims. I would be grateful to hear your view on that.
And if we talk about axis - have you considered joystick rotation for the vertical thrust control?
As a beginner to HOSAS I could learn any configuration so looking for optimal start.
And Yes, if you get rudder pedals it would be great to see your review! Virpil please take notice.
BR
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on my left stick the pinky pull slider at rest is always reading max value is there a way to invert it so it reads 0
There is an inversion check box inside of the settings for that axis.
Hi this is a very clear video but i wonder why you don't use your ministicks?
I’ve made lots of changes since. Planning a new video. Right now left mini thumb has some engine controls and right thumb is look around.
I can't get the secondary trigger to work as a space break or missile operator mode. I set them to "Switch" in the VPC Software. Any tips?
I'm using TM HOTAS WARTHOG stick and throttle. Would love to se a setup with pedals! Dual joystick looks awesome!
@BlackMaze I don't understand how to upload the keybindings. In the game, it shows up as 3 joysticks. Which is which?
Honestly I don’t know either. I’ve never done it.
@@BlackMaze thanks for the reply!
Rudder pedals would be great of course!
Also VIRPIL guys need to think about proper chair mounts. So far they only have armchair mount for collective.
hey i was on the web side and not sure what the diffrece betwene these 2 base mounts is. there is 1 for 190€ and 1 for 290€. at this price range for two sticks i dont want to buy the wrong set
Cannot get my dual virpils to work. Both are flashed with profiles created and all buttons pass (all via vpc software), but only my left will open in control panel, the right says there is a problem. Star citizen see's the same axis no matter which controller I touch, even though both have unique usb ID's in the windows registry, thus should also be treated as individual controls in any game. It's driving me nuckinig futs!
Your keybindings XML is gone
What company/model is the half keyboard shown?
disable esp turn slider to 0
Hi Blackmaze. I'm a bit late to this video. Did Virpil ever give you those paddles?
No :(
I use pedals for roll and provide thrust forwards or backwards with either pedal (I only fly decoupled), left stick is right/left up/down :D
Hi, Did you inverted behaviour of the Button 1 you use for hand break? Or you use it without modification (so break is when your toggle isfurther away from joystick?)
Inverted
I'm not sure if this would make the pedals worth the purchase for you, but what I found I like is rather than have the up and down on the brake levers for the sticks, I have up and down bound to the pedal action of the pedals. So not the main throw of the pedals, but the "wheel brake" part where the foot rest moves like a car pedal. Right one for up, left one for down. Feels more intuitive than using the brakes, and one less thing for my aiming hand to be doing.
I would have liked to move my rotation to the main throw of the pedals, but it's turning out to be really hard to not rotate off my right Z Axis. With some time I might be able to learn the muscle memory to get roll off my aiming hand. Could be good for you if you get pedals.
Your previous video made me want them, and this video made me buy them :) Still wondering if there is anyone out there using both Z-axis, and is then still able to press all the buttons while dog fighting? Worth mentioning: for the left-hand the slider (lower trigger) is by default 100 -> 0% and you need to uncheck 'inversion' and then save the axis AND the device (big green button up top). Thought mine was broke at first :)
Come join us on discord and talk about it!
Omg, I almost died trying to figure this out. This comment really helped
Keybindings XML?
I bought 2 Virpil alphas with bases from watching your videos. Upgraded from a ms sidewinder pro $30. What chair are you using?
A cheap one from Paracon. I don't recommend it :D
@@BlackMaze lol ty
@@BlackMaze You are my last hope. If you have a donate button let me know and I will toss a fiver your way. How do you get your sliders to recognize in Star Citizen? The game only sees the both sliders acting as one. So if I change the right slider to strafe up, then the left slider on the (virpil left) will also strafe up. I can't seem to get the game to recognize the difference between the two. The controllers are not being seen as one, but the slider is... Any idea how to fix this?
0:30 do you have a link for that keyboard? looks great!
www.logitechg.com/en-us/products/gaming-keyboards/g915-low-profile-wireless-mechanical-gaming-keyboard.html
I tried visiting the link for the XML but it says that the file is in the owner's trash, is there a keybind file still available?
Hey thanks for letting me know, I've made a new file and URL for you!
tinyurl.com/3nba987j
@@BlackMaze Thank you so much!
def want you to try pedals, hooning with full immersion with your skills would be a sight to behold. already got my eyes on this virpil setup once i master my dual t16000m
Amazing flying ! I really love this setup, do you have a list of all the Virpil accessories you are currently using in this setup please ? I. I’m coming from an X55 but I want a lot more precision. Thanks
Many thanks... In the end it all boils down to muscle memory.. Really appreciate you taking the time to explain things
Full thrusters, power blast.
7:05 Get some pedals xD
The disclaimer was unnecessary.
I also been on the fence with pedals myself, woud love to try it out before i dropped the $ on the Virpil pedals.
I love your videos! Please keep making more Star Citizen videos! The Pedro ending was a nice closing bliss in my opinion. I would love to see those pedal setup btw ;)
Is there anywhere in the US to buy these for less than $1,800? They're gorgeous but they're not very affordable.
XML Url is broken
How much is this setup gonna set me back when I get this (read when not if)?
Ps i know there is links but retailers can be more or less expensive ime.
~1000 dollars
I would like to see you use peddles. I think you flying would be even smoother, not that it isn’t smooth already.
Trying to use the slider "brake" levels as up and down strafe, but they seem far too sensitive to use for me, no matter what curves I try. I basically want the first 50% of the slider to be slow for take off / descend but it seems to just go immediately to like 20+ m/s.
What am I doing wrong?
Are you flying coupled? Because that will cause that issue. I fly decoupled with a SMALL bit of curve on them.