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Tuberculosis also could be healed. Tuberkulin was developped by Robert Koch in 1890. This game was set 9 Years later. Also: The best treatment for TB was fresh air. So... hm... realisic horse testicals. not so realisitc on history. saaad.
@@emergcon actually the best treatment is fresh air & rest/relaxing and we all know that's not possible with their kind of life so it's still realistic sorry to say
Yes from the start. Dutch started losing his shit in the beginning of the game after the boat heist, and going by some dialogue long before that. Dutch van der Linde was a huge hypocrite, as Milton rightly pointed out when he came to camp. We see the story through Arthur's POV, and he sees Dutch almost as a father figure who he followed with some occasional grumbling, but without much questioning. I think Dutch was was nothing more than a common robber and cutthroat who was good at presenting himself and making speeches, however much he might have thought of himself as a modern Robin Hood, and his insanity and hypocrisy is really reflective of the story and themes of the game overall. Micah was already whispering in his ear at this point, too, as some dialogue suggests the boat heist was his idea all along.
@@ricardofigueiredo3437 cuz he is joking around. Like whats so hard to understand about it. He makes things up and is complaining about random ass things cuz its supposed to be taken with humor which you obv dont have.
And also they’re clearly scratches it’s impossible to get that with a knife unless you are very much trying and making sure that each line is perfectly spaced it’s not a mystery he clearly got attacked by an animal I figured that in the first game And had a pretty much confirmed what I found out that he lived on a farm
9:04 "That is Ross' only line in the game." Not true, Ross actually shouts "This is Agent Ross of the Pinkerton Agency" in the final mission and some other dialogue
A woman outlaw? Get outta here! Have some alcohol and cocaine to bolster your immune system. Don't forget to smoke at least a pack a day too, 'cause it helps prevent cancer.
For someone who repeatedly said "I prefer Red Dead Redemption 1", both in the video and the deacription, he sure seems to forget a few details RDR1 eludes to/get them wrong. On the topic of RDR1: If they were to remake RDR1, they could keep it's story mostly the same and use the remake label to let them add in details about the other surviving/dead gang members. John could and should remember Hosea, Arthur and Micah. They had some of the biggest impacts on the gang.
@@kinorris1709 I love how you mention Micah. Nobody mentions him cuz they hate him and so do i but I honestly think Micah should 100% be included as he made the gang change
@@kinorris1709 No. I don’t want a scene where John is like I remember Arthur and hosea. People who died years ago and aren’t relevant to this situation. John’s his own man. Least they could do is just include their graves. That’s the best reference
@@blake2521 thats not true. The scene where he first meets javier in rdr1. He says "then you and dutch went crazy, and loyalty didn't mean so much"... they could add micahs name there. "Then you dutch and micah went crazy"
@@markcook3913 It is true. Micah is not relevant to Rdr1. Nobody from rdr2 needs to be mentioned in a rdr1 remake. Besides Micah didn’t go crazy. He was crazy since Dutch met him
Yeah, but RDR 1 didn't mention John's scar every mission. This game often talks about how everything went wrong in Blackwater but it never bothers to explain what the hell did happen.
@@tonmai2541 also, when it comes to what really happened on that ferry, Arthur Morgan is just as in the dark as the rest of us. So not telling about blackwater immediately is kinda the point.
Crow Hogan it’s discussed at least once, but it’s limited because Arthur himself isn’t exactly sure. He mentions “Dutch killed a girl in a bad way...” to (I think) Charles. And Agent Milton too mentions that a young woman had her head blown apart by Dutch.
Sadie not being hunted by John has 2 explanations. From a developer perspective, she wasn’t designed From a lore standpoint. She was a nobody, the Pinkerton had information on the gang during black water. Sadie wasn’t a member, she also wasn’t a gun like John, Arthur, or javier. You can use this same reasoning on Tilly Jackson and the 2 other females in the gang.
Micah was feeding them info on the gang since after Guarma. Sadie was an active member of the gang by that point. Her and Charles not being hunted during the first game makes no sense.
@@MINUANOGAMING Because they were long gone and had zero leads on where they were unlike John, Bill, Javier, and Dutch who were all still in the same area.
@@MINUANOGAMING she was also a well known bounty hunter at the end of the epilogue. Maybe she was working for the feds by the time of rdr1. She did have a certain hatred of gangs.
22:31 Micah's pointing out that there's a rat makes perfect sense. Sooner or later, someone was going to figure out that there was a rat, and report it to Dutch. Since Micah was the one who reported it, it pretty much eliminates him as a suspect in Dutch's eyes, for the reason of "Who would rat themselves out?" Micah also now has the ability to point fingers at anyone and accuse them of being a snitch, and Dutch will find his word to be credible since Micah is the one who told him about the snitch in the first place. It's very advanced reverse psychology.
That's exactly what I thought was happening too. I don't know why so many people think it's a dumb move, when it's actually pretty genius and manipulative.
@@billyhenerson2871 Ya'll do realize that because Micah made that accusation that Arthur *immediately* became suspicious of him right? It's just Arthur couldn't act on it because the game didn't want *us* to find out yet. And, ironic, was when we're first introduced to the characters at the start of the game; I was IMMEDIATELY suspicious of Micah. I knew he was going to fuck everything up somehow. And no, I didn't play the first game so my only knowledge of it was extremely vague. I knew the main character dies in a final shootout with the law then his son avenges (or I guess also redeems) him. That's it. I got RDR2 because it was on sale. And I knew it was a prequel, so I had no problem playing it before the first one. Going into it like this leads to some great discoveries. It took quite a while for me to realize who john was. I initially just thought he was nothing special compared to anyone else in the group. And when I played Dominos with Abigail I thought to myself 'she's really cute, but man is she a bitch'. The point of saying all that is that I thought the game was really great overall but there were quite a few moments where the dialog and interactions felt extremely scripted, rather than authentic. One of the best examples is in the first part of the epilogue when john goes to the rival families farm, and after you fist fight that one douche, you are left with the "choice" to shoot him or not. But if you do nothing for like 30 seconds to a minute, john shoots him anyhow.
So, you're complaining about the mystery being taken out of how John got his scars ruins it but you're saying we should know what happened with Blackwater? Okay.
It’s because John’s scars aren’t mentioned in nearly every mission. Blackwater is mention so many times and even other characters don’t know what happened.
I replayed the first Red Dead Redemption recently. John never said that it was a bank robbery that made him leave the gang. He just says that it's a robbery.
@@zacharyl657bananas7 John never specified that it was a bank robbery that made him leave the gang. All he told Landon Ricketts was that "it was a robbery gone wrong."
8:14 Literally a few seconds later, Arthur *ASKS THE SAME GOD DAMNED THING* and she says that John is useless. I never comment about fails in a sin video...But this was just ridiculous.
In fairness to John's facial scars, flavor dialogue in gameplay alludes to John's injury. If you get attacked by wolves then John will occasionally say "How do you think I got these scars!" The fact that the sequel actually acknowledge flavor dialogue of all things, and didn't discard something most players wouldn't hear or remember as non-canon is impressive attention to detail in my opinion.
@@krimsonk-9478 I was simply alluding to how most game sequels don't remember optional dialogue/scenes. Metal Gear in particular has a host of optional codecs that have highly relevant plot details, and sequels act like those conversations never happened. The fact that Rockstar remembered flavor dialogue in gameplay instead of discarding it is impressive in my opinion.
...yet they totally forgot about John saying he had a daughter. R* games always do this: they show an incredible attention to detail in some areas while completely dropping the ball in others.
When I see this video, I'm reminded of how wonderfully this game was made because the person apparently missed dialog in cutscenes that explain half the sins in this video.
When I watch these videos, I'm reminded of how stupid the average gamer is because no one can tell that this is purposefully pedantic and nitpicky for comedy, yet some people cannot stand seeing their favorite games get any amount of criticism so they take them way too seriously.
@@v0rtexbeater You're entitled to your viewpoint, man; There's a distinction between well-crafted criticism and simply taking anything badly because you didn't read the narrative. He didn't pay attention to half of these, and the writing explained it while also speaking for me. I never stated that this was my favorite game or that it was perfect. While the criticisms of the game play are entirely valid and understandable, it is by no means flawless. All I'm getting at is that's not satire or comedy making shit up, and having a bad opinion for his own faults.
Half or more of these plot sins are explained in the freaking plot during dialogue and I know you notice them, since you seem to know every little plot detail
This! During the game John explains to Arthur why he left and he mentions he had a daughter that died and that it was just rough on him and Abigail so they needed to just step away and do something with themselves
21:26 Tuberculosis is a disease that is stuck in the lungs, if the lungs get in a physical contact (in this case Arthur's kidnapping) the disease will start spreading and that's why Arthur had symptoms. One sin off, so that would be 190 sins. Thanks for reading this.
Also, he says he got it a few weeks ago. This is untrue. There were multiple parts in the game where it said a few weeks later or even a few months later. They even spent somewhere around 2 months on guarma as stated in chapters 5 and 6
I actually think getting attacked by wolves is a pretty good explanation as to how John got his scars. Realistically, that makes a lot of sense, and would still be a pretty badass story to tell. If someone in real life got scars from a wolf, I would think that's badass.
Never understand prowl complaining about button mapping, like bro, there’s a whole setting tab for that. I also quite like the A run button because it’s easy to run with and fits the game Much more.
The fact that you did not remove a magnitude of sins for the mission when the whole gang is riding down the path to the Braithewait manor is unforgivable. The scene/music/feeling is one of my favorite moments in the game.
Hello Hello I just watched the video and made a reference to what he said pretty early in the video Now if your here to just talk shit good for you but your just killing time for me so the day can go by faster so please make my day.
Hello Hello and if you don’t then I think your just some 15 year old that wanted to start beef just because I posted one comment (Sorry but I thought the whole point of comments was to have someone ether like them or comment on them.)
*2:30* The whole point of taking the harder path is because they were following a *TRAIL* *9:58* She has nowhere to go her husband died and her house destroyed the life she had before was over so it makes more sense to stay with the gang, which was for the best since she got to avenge her husband, which wouldn't have happen had she chosen to go. *12:04* Were you even paying attention? They are giving it away as advertising for the Braithwaite's moonshine and they are doing it in the Gray's saloon. If Arthur used his real name then the Gray's would be onto them alot sooner.
@Diamond Beau just because the narrator's mistakes were because of his own lack of intelligence. You just wanna justify a reason to hate on this game for some reason and to devalue our valid points.
@Diamond Beau Wow dude. I'm not gonna be an asshole but are you seriously gonna comment on everyone elses comments about how their rockstar dick riders if they point out flaws in this video? I'm a HUGE rockstar fan and this game DEFINITELY has its flaws. But the commentator was most certainly nitpicking on a bunch of the points he makes and some even being completely false. I guess that makes me a rockstar dick rider and you're gonna curse and swear and call me toxic anyway though. Even though I admitted the game has its flaws even for being a long time fan of rockstar, and the red dead series.
@@gamingandrewbro8815 Smoking was prescribed as a remedy to coughing and other breathing problems. There was no common sense since they had no scientific basis that smoking harmed you in particular let alone second hand smoke which was considered harmless well into the 20th century.
I know right? Like he complains about wanting to know the biggest mystery of the game they set up since the first game but then when the scars are revealed it's too much
It's two complete different sins. Learning how John got his scar is not important to the story. Dartigan just says that it ruins the mystery of it by being so cliché. A fucking wolf scar. Wow, how original. I would also have liked it remained a mystery. Blackwater, however, is essential to the plot. It is the main reason the whole gang needed to get away as for being criminal. Seeing everything Arthur and the crew does to the entire country in the whole game, it is justified wanting to know what happened back there, that didn't already happened after. Knowing you commit all the crime possible in a map that isn't even that big, while never getting caught make me say: "Ok. So why did they need to leave Blackwater if they can get away with being enemy of the country ?" Considering that the said-place isn't bigger than the biggest city in RDR2. On is not important to the plot and is told. The other is essential for the story and the coherence but isn't explained.
@@layle0692 ^^^ what Chandler Burse said. And also the "not so big map" is massive. Keep in mind its a game, but if you line the map up on a map of the US, it represents about a third of the entirety. So a massive map. And you could also sin a game like GTA for giving you 3 stars for robbing a store, and also 3 for killing a cop. You expect RDR2 to punish you for killing loads of people, or committing massive crimes - but what punishment? If you rob a train and kill everyone on board, you get a massive bounty. Perhaps they should just respawn you once you kill 10 people with a message on screen saying "don't harm civilians". Clown 🤡
@@gamingandrewbro8815 getting scars from a wolf is lame? wolves that can weigh up to 180? 400 pounds of pressure per square inch bite? okay bro you're just hating just to hate at this point
I actually liked how Marston got his scar. Him being a total badass makes you think there was some over the top crazy story behind it, but there wasnt. Nice surprise
@@wetube6513 "from a few doggos" Bro those wolves are seen to be 2 times the size of the other dogs in the game, and even then what if those dogs were pitbulls bro?. I would would think surviving 4 or 5 angry pitbulls is badass, let alone wolves.
John gets shot in blackwater, then gets lost for days in a snow storm, and then is attacked by wolves, to which he not only fights them off supposedly, but he gets away from, all while injured. that's not over the top and badass to you?
@@jonrice3967 I killed thousands of wolves and bears and got shot thousands of times playing him. It’s badass of course, but compared to what he’s doing in the first game.. And since he is a major character I thought it’s kind of random event
He does this in a lot of videos. Recounting the same "sin" (opinion) as it occurs multiple times in a game but saying its something different... Its not.
@@raziel4435 uhm excuse me but in how far is using the same format as somebody else a bad thing? That would mean every action movie was ripping off the first action movie ever made.
19:43 Thank you for bringing this up. It always bugged me that Dutch didn’t take the gold back. I was hoping that Rockstar would let us loot her body but nope, Arthur climbs the ladder in the cutscene.
Not knowing what happened in black water is what makes that part of the games story great because it’s up to the player on how you want to interpret the black water massacre
Many of the things he says aren't even sins One year later Edit: when i commented this i just finished the game so was a little defensive. Now i see the humor and some pretty accurate sins in this video Ps: free micah Psps: domince, i know they are pretty tough on you just fight them you are strong 💪
He Sins the inclusion of Stats and other gameplay mechanics like the game would somehow be better without extra things for the player to do and a progression system that makes you feel like your character is becoming more experienced.
3:32 Sin 14: it doesn’t matter. There is no battery and the electrical shock is powered only from a swift, downward motion of the plunger. This means the detonator can’t store energy. 8:08 Sin 35: She HAS asked John to do something with Jack. Many times. It seems like it’s half of the camp dialogue. 9:05 Sin 40: Yes! Why don’t we try to arrest a famous gunslinger known to defeat tens of well equipped, well trained lawmen. Also to note that he does most of this in less than a fraction of a second, and can cure 15 bullet wounds with a bottle of moonshine? 12:06 Sin 56: Arthur was working as a deputy for the Grays. Giving the moonshine for free held up the saloon’s income for 30 minutes. The Grays would then find out about the hand playing both sides, but the gang obviously needed to hide that.
Bro sin 35 makes zero sense at all, he complains and asks why John can’t take Jack fishing, and literally in the same cutscene, Arthur asks that and Abigail explains why.
The death of the horse was emotionally and more than just a "pre-ordered horse" if you stayed with the horse since the beginning, it's like losing a part of your family. Hell I finished the Hamish side missions with Arthur where he let's you keep Beull and even that tugged at my heart when it was Buell that died, in that moment it would be Arthur thanking not only the horse but also Hamish.
2:36 They didn't know where John was and were tracking him from the campsite they found. They also don't know the area they're in so there is no real reason that they'd logically go through the easier path.
Sadie stays with the gang because her house, along everything she owned, burned to a crisp. She has literally nowhere else _to_ go. The act Hosea puts on in the bar with the moonshine is so that the Grays don’t recognise Arthur who is doing deputy work for them. He literally explained it when they were riding to the bar. This is just my interpretation regarding Bronte’s invitation to the Mayor’s party. I think he did that just to swing his dick around in Dutch’s face about how powerful he is right before he fucks him over. His attitude when you kidnap him right before his death pretty much confirms that for me. I’ll actually give that “everything important is in the middle of the book cliche” a pass because it’s literally bookmarked with a big ass piece of paper, signifying that page is actually important. Details, man. John getting left behind isn’t that much of a retcon actually. John says to Arthur that Dutch could have stopped him from getting arrested if he wanted to but he just abandoned him. Not the first time in this game either. One was leaving him behind to get arrested at the bank, and then he got left behind to die during the train robbery.
and she basicly has no one to go to if you go to the Cabin in colter were John rests up after being helped down the mountain. Arthur can ask her if she has someone she can go to after they get down from the mountain and she says that she dosen’t.
@Chandler Burse Mexico hated him more than the US at first, but I doubt he's more wanted in Mexico than in the states after committing multiple massacres over 3 towns with the gang. They could go undercover and lay low in Mexico because I doubt they'd come after him anymore than the Pinkertons did in America.
Don’t you just love it when he sins this game because a character says or does something nonsensical or awful, and everyone else around them acknowledges it? Makes perfect sense to me, I mean who ever heard of writing a character to be that way? Absurd!
The Wanderer I loved it aswell, I loved how linear and straight foward it was compared to the rest of the game. It was a very nice part that ultimately leads up to a very satisfying ending. This game is a masterpiece,
I think you missed the point on Ditch killing the old woman and not taking back the gold. It was there to symbolize that he didn't kill her because he thought she would betray them. The fact that he didn't take the gold back meant that this killing of his was purely for his satisfaction. If he killed her and then took the gold that would be his motivation, but the fact that he killed her anyway and didn't take the gold bar back was purely because he was officially a psychopath.
Dutch wanting to keep John in prison is due to his paranoia about him believing John may be betraying him thanks to Micah convincing him about a rat in the gang. So when he does actions that will bring the law down on them yet yells at Arthur for breaking out John for the same reason, it's not so much a contradiction and more an excuse to not wanting him around
It's made clear that Dutch is suspicious of John and Abigail during chapter 5. Dutch tells Arthur while walking through the cave on the island that it's odd John was the only person the agents tried to arrest and not outright kill, and how odd Hosea was captured and not Abigail.
6:02 Kieran Duffy* 7:05 Downes* 8:15 Abigail says it's because Johns useless like 5 seconds later 10:00 She wanted to get revenge on the O'driscolls for killing her husband and she doesn't really have anywhere else to go 10:08 + 12:46 Trelawny* 14:25 I don't remember when in the game but I remember a piece of dialogue from Javier Escuela explaining that he can't go back to Mexico because the price on his head is so high
if i were to add, when he said why didn’t abigail make john take jack fishing, abigail resented john because he left multiple times and she wanted arthur to become like a second father. this vid is so picky istg
connor h you can be nit picky but he isn’t even paying attention to the sins he’s giving and is just trying to give it as much sins as possible with doing as little research as possible
After 5 years i can finally watch this video! My friend spoiled the ending to read dead 2 while i was actively installing the gane after buying it day one. So I put it down until about 4 months ago. 574 hours later and I'm crying at the end credits. Love your content Dartigan
To be fair to him, you can consider something "the best" and still personally like another thing better. Like with music, you can consider one band technically more proficient but still find another one more to your personal liking.
The horse dying in the mission shouldn’t be sinned. It was put there as an emotional roller coaster. Wouldn’t make sense Arthur and John jumping off horses while being chased, the horse dying shows Arthur being at peace and a good person, that’s why he said thank you. I cry like a baby everytime I replay the game. It’s not a sin, it’s just sad.
@@user-en7rr2jt1n No. He joked about paying extra in pre order and got that special horse. In this mission the horse u ride dies and u will never get that same horse again.
@@oldchannel5795 that's the point. If ur horse dies in that mission then until u start an entirely new game session u won't get that horse back. Or if u want to avoid this, maybe u wouldn't buy that pre order horse at all then buy after that mission effectively loosing most of the storyline without that horse
3:51 Well maybe, Strauss either had money on himself or he probably gotten the cash by selling something in a local store. 5:58 Yes, but it's a SPEEDING train. It would've taken more than a couple of seconds for it to stop. 6:35 Dutch wanted Lenny to get drunk so the whiskey could calm him down and forget about Micah, dude are you paying attention at ALL? 8:14 John was apathetic towards his son because he didn't want to believe he was his. 22:18 That's exactly why Dutch chose Beaver Hollow; not even the Law would think to look for them there.
8:14 Yeah, at this point John can also be out prepping to rob the train, meaning he literally isn't around and there's no reason to sin John for not going since he's not even here to go
5:58 he literally said it wouldn’t be able to stop, the sin was about the conductor not even attempting to pull the brakes or even blare the whistle after seeing people on the bridge.
@Roy Gravelili. it talks about how they met Jenny, and Micah, how Dutch and Micah were planning to rob a ferry while Arthur and Hosea were trying to rob actual theives etc. How is that vague?
The story was the absolute worst thing I’ve ever had to experience in a video game. The free roam was fun for a while, but fuck those boring ass missions that barely allow you to use the controller
@@jokerhaha5123 What game are you playing lol? You 100% have not played this game before in your life. I have never met anybody ever, that has said that the games story is bad. Also what do you mean by boring mission that don’t allow use of the controller? Every mission has stuff such as shootouts and something to do, maybe skip the cutscenes if you hate it that much? That’s every story game ever, you know, a fucking story, so a lot of cutscenes.
@@PastPositive try typing that again without crying. You rdr2 fanboys are the most pathetic people in the gaming community. Yes some missions have shootouts, even those missions will strip you of certain guns and ammunition, tell you exactly where to go and when to shoot or mission failed. Hold x to follow, or ride at a snail’s pace while some boring ass dialogue takes place. I got so tired of the lack of agency by the Tahiti missions that I just started purposely failing every mission. The game still progresses to the end even when you fail every single mission and nothing changes in the story because it’s just a 30 hour movie that happens regardless of player input. The story is also boring as hell because we already knew what happened before the game was released.
I love this game and admit that it does have a lot of flaws, but dear lord, you got so much stuff wrong it would feel morally dubious of me to not dislike.
Diamond Beau because you decided to be an asshole because someone respectfully said they didn’t agree with him. Oh and labeling someone to discredit them is a pretty good way to show us you have nothing of value to say.
Gerardo Sproet "Red Dead" is literally the series not the sequel Red Dead Revolver was the original that started off as a spiritual suscessor(look it up) to a Capcom game Gun.Smoke(look it up) Red Dead Redemption 1 is the SPIRITUAL SUCCESSOR to Red Dead Revolver thats why none of the characters are canon in that story AND BEFORE YOU BRING UP MULTIPLAYER those characters were easter eggs,references,non-canon,don't act like y'all don't know R* love their easter eggs Red Dead 2 is the prequel/sequel of the Redemption story and third installment of the series,it damn sure aint RDR3
28:30 - Am I the only one who remembers that John said "I had a daughter, but she died... BEFORE that, I rode in a gang". In the three years between 1908 (RDR2) and 1911 (RDR1), John had a daughter who dies. I don't have the time to go through each of them bit by bit but... c'mon man, if you're going to nit-pick, at least do it right...
Rougeification woah I needed to see that I was wondering what happened to the girl , now it just seems kinda pointless like she existed in between games just to exist
They should've had her exist somewhere between 1907 and 1911. Like, at the very end of RDR2 after John and Abigail are married, she could mention her pregnancy, making John feel on top of the world.
"Show us what happened in Blackwater" Complains that they revealed how John got scars while wanting one of the biggest things shrouded in mystery revealed. Plus you can go through the journal and newspapers to make a good enough theory of what happened.
yeah cuz cover system is a shitty and boring system made for consoles compare it to the flanking and fast paced combat of half life 2 and you'll see how boring rdr2's is
People do realize that you can adjust your settings so that free aiming is actually good? It’s not rockstar’s fault you guys won’t explore the settings or look on TH-cam? Jeesh
Thank you!! cant understand people who complain about it... I played all the first run with free aim and it was a hell of fun(sorry for my "mabey bad english")
Well yeah because they are far more casuals than hardcore gamers in any game. I actually bothered to learn free aim with default controls and only started messing with the settings in GTA V, but had been using free aim even since GTA:Vice City with the appropriate weapons, and GTA:San Andreas when it became a major part of how I played. Max Payne had very solid shooting even in pure free aim, my only problems with it were some balance issues, particularly involving the sawn off shotgun and how damn slow the levelling was, but otherwise was a very polished shooter in auto and free aim. For context I'm a console gamer, so no mouse involved.
Guys, for all of you who are objecting this guy like a big baby, this video is called "everything wrong with red dead redemption 2". This is not a review of how good or bad the game is but *everything wrong* not everything right. If you really just gonna comment stuff like "NoT tRuE, *insert random objection here* !!!!" Or "YoU'rE wRoNg!!!!!", then just stop watching this video and giving it dislikes because it ain't changing anything except making the RDR2 community look like a bunch of angry babies. Just watch "Everything GREAT with red dead redemption 2" then you big testy googoogaagaa babies.
@@DysfunctionalJ Its just a fucking video made with a simple idea calm down please. You guys are completely OKAY with everything wrong with Life is strange, everything wrong with Until dawn, but not everything wrong with ReD dEaD rEdEmPtIoN 2!? Grow up.
I gotta be honest Woody Jackson’s scores for both this game and Red Dead Redemption are absolutely incredible. You can hear the influences of Spaghetti Western composers like Ennio Morricone, but it never becomes an immitation of a Morricone score.
There are many things that YOU had wrong but the problem I will address is the tuberculosis symptoms. When Arthur escapes being hung upside down, it shows a cutscene of him being injured. A message shows up saying that a few months passed so the injury could be healed. Those few months could’ve been enough to show symptoms for tuberculosis. I’m not sure if you skipped the cutscene or were just too ignorant to notice this.
It was a few weeks after he escaped, not months. Not to mention it's never really specified when exactly Arthur caught it. Sure there is that one mission where the guy coughs blood in his face, but you can go through the whole game without ever doing that side mission and he still gets sick.
"I hate that the game doesn't explain in detail what exactly went wrong in Blackwater. Fuck the mystery around it." "I hate that the game explains in detail how John got his scars. It ruins the mystery around it." *Bruh.*
But you see, John's scars are a trivial matter which don't have any important aspect to them, while the Blackwater incident is something that is heavily referenced during the whole game Simply, the Blackwater incident needs an explanation while John's scars don't.
Raneilija We’re given enough info about the heist. All the audience needs to understand is that shit went sideways, people got shot, gang members died. They give us enough information with out having to tell us every detail letting the player imagine how things played out.
I agree entirely if they started the game with the blackwster the game would suck because your first impression of it is that it’s Robin cowboy game instead of a game about family and protecting those you love
@@raneilija What's difficult to understand that Micah made the heist in black water fail, and threw shit sideways, you really need the game to feed you informations with a spoon?
@@imasaltyperson1947 I was trying to explain Dartigan's point of view rather than my own. I personally like how the Blackwater incident isn't explained completely, leaving room for theories and such. Knowing and seeing the origins of John's scars was also something I enjoyed. Sorry for the confusion.
Still my favorite game! Also, the many storylines in the end actually fits with the gang elements of the story. There are many characters, and they all have they’re own perspective and personality. Makes things more real.
The sin is how “easy” a prequel can tie a connection. Instead of properly foreshadowing something, they made a connection unnecessarily connection between Jack and Ross
I don't get the line "Prequels make such poetry easy." Like, if the second game came out first and the first game was actually the second, wouldn't it be the exact same? Like don't sequels "make such poetry easy" too? Instead of: "Hey Jack killed Ross, while Ross was fishing by the river, let's have their first meeting be while Jack fishes by a river." it would have been: "Hey, you know how Jack first met Ross while Jack was fishing by a river? Let's have Jack kill Ross while HE is fishing at a river." It's like the exact same. What if it both happened in the same game? Because both decisions would have been made during the same writing process, the poetry would have been even easier to write. Like, what would make writing "such poetry" hard?
28:30 The daughter was born after John and Abigail officially got married and died right before Agent Ross came to force John to go hunt down Bill, Javier and Dutch
Great video but I just have 2 sin complaints. 1. The time between Arthur getting infected with TB and him showing symptoms must have been many months rather than a few weeks. Considering they shifted locations twice and went through that entire Guarma debacle. 2. I wouldn't say it's too much of a cover shooter where you just stay down and wait for enemies to pop up. I prefer go FPS style and move around whenever I can.
21:25 According to the C.D.C you can develop symptoms within a few weeks but it varies from person to person. Also it was 1899 smoking was considered healthy. And arthur does'nt die from just tb he also got the shit beat out of him.
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Tuberculosis also could be healed. Tuberkulin was developped by Robert Koch in 1890. This game was set 9 Years later. Also: The best treatment for TB was fresh air. So... hm... realisic horse testicals. not so realisitc on history. saaad.
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@@emergcon actually the best treatment is fresh air & rest/relaxing and we all know that's not possible with their kind of life so it's still realistic sorry to say
Dartigan, I will admit I haven’t watched it yet, but please tell me you don’t sin the story, it’s a Opinion.
For real thought, I think this game should win game of the year
Dutch's actions being irrational isn't really a game sin. It's exactly what they are meant to be.
not from the start, he develops nicely later, as mentioned in the video.
Yes from the start. Dutch started losing his shit in the beginning of the game after the boat heist, and going by some dialogue long before that. Dutch van der Linde was a huge hypocrite, as Milton rightly pointed out when he came to camp. We see the story through Arthur's POV, and he sees Dutch almost as a father figure who he followed with some occasional grumbling, but without much questioning. I think Dutch was was nothing more than a common robber and cutthroat who was good at presenting himself and making speeches, however much he might have thought of himself as a modern Robin Hood, and his insanity and hypocrisy is really reflective of the story and themes of the game overall. Micah was already whispering in his ear at this point, too, as some dialogue suggests the boat heist was his idea all along.
exactly
Elveslayer it’s a sin to do stupid things as it makes no sense
Literally almost all of these aren't.
How dare you sin the horse dying scene in the last mission. That made even the strongest men cry.
Stormsmustfade so true bro i even spent over 2k things worth of stuffs for him that’s how much i loved him😔
if u done the missions with hamish the veteran and you took buell it’s even worse
AdamWayneone yeah i know but there’s no point because when you switch to john all your horses get removed
I loved my horse too much
He was a good boah
"Everything wrong with red dead 2"
*micah*
"Thank you for watching"
I fucking hate him but he was one good fucking villain
GMN230 0 gaming tends to be subjective, but you’re just plain wrong
Facts
Even though I hate Micah, I can't imagine rdr2 without him.
Perfect explanation
This guy is the perfect interpretation of Cinema sins sinning the most random things
exactly the first sin he gave was because it looked like a random ass game? like what
@@ricardofigueiredo3437 cuz he is joking around. Like whats so hard to understand about it. He makes things up and is complaining about random ass things cuz its supposed to be taken with humor which you obv dont have.
@@mmdcccvii4847 he’s not joking he does this with almost all his videos since a long time buddy
@@ricardofigueiredo3437 bro.... so you take family guy serious aswell? Cuz they are offenisv every Episode?
@@mmdcccvii4847 huh? how is that even a comparison i never said this video was offensive 💀
Wow, a 1:1 like to dislike ratio. Never seen that before
I've only seen it on PewDiePie's video meant for it, this is fucking hilarious.
And it still is to this day!
Not anymore, I liked it lol
because RDR fans are salty
Righter Side Of Things no it’s because RDR fans are calling him out on his bullshit
I'm not sure why getting scars from a wolf is lame.
And also they’re clearly scratches it’s impossible to get that with a knife unless you are very much trying and making sure that each line is perfectly spaced it’s not a mystery he clearly got attacked by an animal I figured that in the first game And had a pretty much confirmed what I found out that he lived on a farm
@@noahchmielewski1347 Wolves can't stratch like that though
Codeword 0 Yes, yes they can
@@Krosstic Wolves are stronger in bite then stratch
@@codeword0203 but they can definitely scratch likely that
9:04 "That is Ross' only line in the game."
Not true, Ross actually shouts "This is Agent Ross of the Pinkerton Agency" in the final mission and some other dialogue
*final mission for arthur/final mission of chapter 6
he also is shouting to his men while you run through the caves, you can see if you have subtitles on
I think he meant lines in a cutscene/important in game moment
@@CmH250 the lines he siad there are more important than the one he said to jack. Then lines clearly state he is in charge of the pinkertons now.
Exactly. He completely forgot about it.
Fun fact: Sadie is not wanted because she is not known by the Feds
A woman outlaw? Get outta here! Have some alcohol and cocaine to bolster your immune system. Don't forget to smoke at least a pack a day too, 'cause it helps prevent cancer.
Charles too?
@@leonpaelinck he is wanted I think
Yeah an outlaw unwanted
@@gamingandrewbro8815 no in the first game they come after John to kill him they didn't know Sadie was part of the gang
In rdr 1 when attacked by a wolf John says “where do you think I got these scars” so we actually already knew
For someone who repeatedly said "I prefer Red Dead Redemption 1", both in the video and the deacription, he sure seems to forget a few details RDR1 eludes to/get them wrong.
On the topic of RDR1: If they were to remake RDR1, they could keep it's story mostly the same and use the remake label to let them add in details about the other surviving/dead gang members. John could and should remember Hosea, Arthur and Micah. They had some of the biggest impacts on the gang.
@@kinorris1709 I love how you mention Micah. Nobody mentions him cuz they hate him and so do i but I honestly think Micah should 100% be included as he made the gang change
@@kinorris1709 No. I don’t want a scene where John is like
I remember Arthur and hosea. People who died years ago and aren’t relevant to this situation. John’s his own man. Least they could do is just include their graves. That’s the best reference
@@blake2521 thats not true. The scene where he first meets javier in rdr1. He says "then you and dutch went crazy, and loyalty didn't mean so much"... they could add micahs name there. "Then you dutch and micah went crazy"
@@markcook3913 It is true. Micah is not relevant to Rdr1. Nobody from rdr2 needs to be mentioned in a rdr1 remake. Besides Micah didn’t go crazy. He was crazy since Dutch met him
“They should tell us what happened in black water”
Not even 30 seconds later
“Telling is what happened with johns face ruins the mystery”
Yeah, but RDR 1 didn't mention John's scar every mission. This game often talks about how everything went wrong in Blackwater but it never bothers to explain what the hell did happen.
Pruk Chaweekulrath was gonna say the same, if you actually look and read things it tells you lol
@@tonmai2541 also, when it comes to what really happened on that ferry, Arthur Morgan is just as in the dark as the rest of us. So not telling about blackwater immediately is kinda the point.
Crow Hogan it’s discussed at least once, but it’s limited because Arthur himself isn’t exactly sure. He mentions “Dutch killed a girl in a bad way...” to (I think) Charles. And Agent Milton too mentions that a young woman had her head blown apart by Dutch.
Best part is the Blackwater incident happened in red dead redemption 1
Sin 45: Sadie does have a reason to join the gang. She wants to get revenge on the O'Driscolls for killing her husband.
And on top of that, she says later that her normal life is over and that she wouldn't wanna go back to one, so she stays with the gang
but the gang hates revenge
Yes they have it but that doesn't stop them from getting theirs
Dhurba International that’s true but when sadie joins the gang they are going after the O’Driscolls anyway
Arthur mentions that Dutch said revenge is a fool's game, but he was also working towards taking revenge against Colm O'Driscoll...
Sadie not being hunted by John has 2 explanations.
From a developer perspective, she wasn’t designed
From a lore standpoint. She was a nobody, the Pinkerton had information on the gang during black water. Sadie wasn’t a member, she also wasn’t a gun like John, Arthur, or javier. You can use this same reasoning on Tilly Jackson and the 2 other females in the gang.
Micah was feeding them info on the gang since after Guarma. Sadie was an active member of the gang by that point.
Her and Charles not being hunted during the first game makes no sense.
@@MINUANOGAMING Because they were long gone and had zero leads on where they were unlike John, Bill, Javier, and Dutch who were all still in the same area.
They also thought John was dead after Blackwater heist so they were not hunting him for a short period
@@MINUANOGAMING she was also a well known bounty hunter at the end of the epilogue. Maybe she was working for the feds by the time of rdr1. She did have a certain hatred of gangs.
@@lumbagolosis Sadie was most likely in Africa and Charles was in Canada so yeah no leads and not worth the effort
22:31
Micah's pointing out that there's a rat makes perfect sense. Sooner or later, someone was going to figure out that there was a rat, and report it to Dutch. Since Micah was the one who reported it, it pretty much eliminates him as a suspect in Dutch's eyes, for the reason of "Who would rat themselves out?" Micah also now has the ability to point fingers at anyone and accuse them of being a snitch, and Dutch will find his word to be credible since Micah is the one who told him about the snitch in the first place. It's very advanced reverse psychology.
Thank You Kind Sir
That's exactly what I thought was happening too. I don't know why so many people think it's a dumb move, when it's actually pretty genius and manipulative.
There’s also a theory that Milton said that to cause trouble in the gang. That he lied to tear it apart
@@billyhenerson2871 Ya'll do realize that because Micah made that accusation that Arthur *immediately* became suspicious of him right? It's just Arthur couldn't act on it because the game didn't want *us* to find out yet.
And, ironic, was when we're first introduced to the characters at the start of the game; I was IMMEDIATELY suspicious of Micah. I knew he was going to fuck everything up somehow. And no, I didn't play the first game so my only knowledge of it was extremely vague. I knew the main character dies in a final shootout with the law then his son avenges (or I guess also redeems) him. That's it. I got RDR2 because it was on sale. And I knew it was a prequel, so I had no problem playing it before the first one.
Going into it like this leads to some great discoveries. It took quite a while for me to realize who john was. I initially just thought he was nothing special compared to anyone else in the group. And when I played Dominos with Abigail I thought to myself 'she's really cute, but man is she a bitch'.
The point of saying all that is that I thought the game was really great overall but there were quite a few moments where the dialog and interactions felt extremely scripted, rather than authentic.
One of the best examples is in the first part of the epilogue when john goes to the rival families farm, and after you fist fight that one douche, you are left with the "choice" to shoot him or not. But if you do nothing for like 30 seconds to a minute, john shoots him anyhow.
So he does the fart trick
So, you're complaining about the mystery being taken out of how John got his scars ruins it but you're saying we should know what happened with Blackwater? Okay.
It’s because John’s scars aren’t mentioned in nearly every mission. Blackwater is mention so many times and even other characters don’t know what happened.
FreyR Kunn They don’t have to mention John’s scars because you literally see them every time you play the game.
FreyR Kunn we don’t really need to know what happened in black water, all we need to know is it went wrong
Yea this dude trash
@@FreyR_Kunn that's because that's life you don't get explanations for everything
I replayed the first Red Dead Redemption recently. John never said that it was a bank robbery that made him leave the gang. He just says that it's a robbery.
And even if it was a bank, it could be the robbery in Saint Denis. That’s about when everyone started losing doubt.
@@zacharyl657bananas7 John never specified that it was a bank robbery that made him leave the gang. All he told Landon Ricketts was that "it was a robbery gone wrong."
@@Cibernetize yeah that’s what I mean though
I've always thought he meant the trainrobbery, where he got shot
@@VuokkoV Makes most sense to me.
Sin 24 is wrong, you can see Mary Beth feeding and giving water to Kieran when Dutch isn't looking
tilly also gives him food
His name was Kieran Duffy not Kirean O'Driscoll.
Kieran, I’m more a Van der Linde than O’Driscoll, Duffy.
Korean O’Driscoll
Kieran “You smell like an O’Driscoll” Duffy
8:14 Literally a few seconds later, Arthur *ASKS THE SAME GOD DAMNED THING* and she says that John is useless.
I never comment about fails in a sin video...But this was just ridiculous.
Exactly
Full Life 3 then try to explain the rest
rdr 2 story sucks
@@香香鸭 That is, in fact, objectively wrong.
Robbert Kööp is not about slow, even rdr1 story is better than 2 in my opinion
@@香香鸭 your opinion is just wrong
In fairness to John's facial scars, flavor dialogue in gameplay alludes to John's injury. If you get attacked by wolves then John will occasionally say "How do you think I got these scars!" The fact that the sequel actually acknowledge flavor dialogue of all things, and didn't discard something most players wouldn't hear or remember as non-canon is impressive attention to detail in my opinion.
RustledEntity people want everything laid out in front of them nowadays smh
I remember this playing RDR. Was happy the made it official
@@krimsonk-9478 I was simply alluding to how most game sequels don't remember optional dialogue/scenes. Metal Gear in particular has a host of optional codecs that have highly relevant plot details, and sequels act like those conversations never happened. The fact that Rockstar remembered flavor dialogue in gameplay instead of discarding it is impressive in my opinion.
...yet they totally forgot about John saying he had a daughter.
R* games always do this: they show an incredible attention to detail in some areas while completely dropping the ball in others.
Deez Nutz 4 years between RDR 2 epilogue and RDR 1, a child can be born and die within that time easily
When I see this video, I'm reminded of how wonderfully this game was made because the person apparently missed dialog in cutscenes that explain half the sins in this video.
When I watch these videos, I'm reminded of how stupid the average gamer is because no one can tell that this is purposefully pedantic and nitpicky for comedy, yet some people cannot stand seeing their favorite games get any amount of criticism so they take them way too seriously.
@@v0rtexbeater You're entitled to your viewpoint, man; There's a distinction between well-crafted criticism and simply taking anything badly because you didn't read the narrative. He didn't pay attention to half of these, and the writing explained it while also speaking for me. I never stated that this was my favorite game or that it was perfect. While the criticisms of the game play are entirely valid and understandable, it is by no means flawless. All I'm getting at is that's not satire or comedy making shit up, and having a bad opinion for his own faults.
@@v0rtexbeatercan u explain where the comedy is?
The game is pretty mediocre just bc you loved it doesn’t mean it’s wonderful. Lots of issues with it. Gameplay, mechanics, story,etc.
I’ve played all red dead games (including revolver) I like RDR2 the best out of all. PS Arthur is better character than jhohn
Facts
100% but John is still great
Eh I'm more partial to Jack. John's looks and personality + Arthur's intelligence.
The One Way Road Arthur looked better than John
RDR2 solo, Arthur >>>>>>. But when the games are taking together, John has the larger and better arc.
Half or more of these plot sins are explained in the freaking plot during dialogue and I know you notice them, since you seem to know every little plot detail
^^^^^^
People have on this game because you actually have to pay attention
Right! A lot of stuff is explained but you need to be paying very close attention and you will need to do some free-roaming and exploration too.
Eric Long Right. I personally like that this game does not spoon-feed you information. That's the mark of great writing,
This! During the game John explains to Arthur why he left and he mentions he had a daughter that died and that it was just rough on him and Abigail so they needed to just step away and do something with themselves
21:26 Tuberculosis is a disease that is stuck in the lungs, if the lungs get in a physical contact (in this case Arthur's kidnapping) the disease will start spreading and that's why Arthur had symptoms. One sin off, so that would be 190 sins. Thanks for reading this.
Thank you but most of the sins are bogus anyway lol
Gamebred you guys don’t t get it that’s the point he’s meant to nitpick he’s the game version of cinema sins
I like to think that the trip to Guarma and all the chapter 6 events, put undue stress on Arthur, thus accelerating his condition
Also, he says he got it a few weeks ago. This is untrue. There were multiple parts in the game where it said a few weeks later or even a few months later. They even spent somewhere around 2 months on guarma as stated in chapters 5 and 6
I actually think getting attacked by wolves is a pretty good explanation as to how John got his scars. Realistically, that makes a lot of sense, and would still be a pretty badass story to tell. If someone in real life got scars from a wolf, I would think that's badass.
John actually mentions once whilst fighting wolves, he said, “how do you think I got my scars”. Which means they literally just used the Rdr1 version.
6.4k likes, 6.4k dislikes
perfectly balanced, as all things should be.
6,634 likes, 6,649 dislikes as of March 23rd, 2019.
Now it's 6.6k likes, and 6.6k dislikes.
@@littydittycommittee4644 I had to dislike the video because he's literally stupid
He cuts out context and gives the last of the context a sin lol
@@jawonsh1592 true.
Now 6.7 k likes and dislike wtf
Some of the things you mention about having to spam x/a to run or the auto aim are things that you can change in the control settings.
You can?
Fuck
@@trixxsaurus2386 yep
Never understand prowl complaining about button mapping, like bro, there’s a whole setting tab for that. I also quite like the A run button because it’s easy to run with and fits the game Much more.
I disagree with about 90 % of the sins.
I agree with 100% of this comment
this is true
U meant 100%
It’s entertainment not meant to be taken serious
Same here
The fact that you did not remove a magnitude of sins for the mission when the whole gang is riding down the path to the Braithewait manor is unforgivable. The scene/music/feeling is one of my favorite moments in the game.
@dudeguyrIt’s been so long since I last played chapter 3. What
Missions are ass?
@dudeguyr I only remember having to ride a woman’s suffrage wagon once. For the Grays and Braithwaites love story. Is there another side mission?
This entire video is a joke
“So what starving, cold and being attacked by wolfs ain’t good enough for you?”
-John marston
Hello Hello I’m pretty sure your messing around right??? I made a reference to the game itself.
Hello Hello I just watched the video and made a reference to what he said pretty early in the video
Now if your here to just talk shit good for you but your just killing time for me so the day can go by faster so please make my day.
Hello Hello sin me but what else do people comment on videos for I’m sorry I’m so “different” then the other people that comment.
Hello Hello go to 2:49 stupid shit and you’ll see why I said the reference
Hello Hello and if you don’t then I think your just some 15 year old that wanted to start beef just because I posted one comment
(Sorry but I thought the whole point of comments was to have someone ether like them or comment on them.)
*2:30* The whole point of taking the harder path is because they were following a *TRAIL*
*9:58* She has nowhere to go her husband died and her house destroyed the life she had before was over so it makes more sense to stay with the gang, which was for the best since she got to avenge her husband, which wouldn't have happen had she chosen to go.
*12:04* Were you even paying attention? They are giving it away as advertising for the Braithwaite's moonshine and they are doing it in the Gray's saloon. If Arthur used his real name then the Gray's would be onto them alot sooner.
12:40 America was at war with Cuba at the time so it would make sense for someone to hate Cubans
@Diamond Beau just because the narrator's mistakes were because of his own lack of intelligence. You just wanna justify a reason to hate on this game for some reason and to devalue our valid points.
@Diamond Beau Wow dude. I'm not gonna be an asshole but are you seriously gonna comment on everyone elses comments about how their rockstar dick riders if they point out flaws in this video? I'm a HUGE rockstar fan and this game DEFINITELY has its flaws. But the commentator was most certainly nitpicking on a bunch of the points he makes and some even being completely false. I guess that makes me a rockstar dick rider and you're gonna curse and swear and call me toxic anyway though. Even though I admitted the game has its flaws even for being a long time fan of rockstar, and the red dead series.
@Diamond Beau You are either 12 years old or your brain has not developed properly yet..
@Diamond Beau you edited this reply and still used threw instead of throw.
21:33 yeah...actually during those days, doctors did that really often, it was considered sacred and healthy yadda yadda
Shit they did this until like up until like the 80's. People would smoke everywhere including restaurants, airport, and the hospital.
Yes but even back then they still had common sense
@@gamingandrewbro8815 Smoking was prescribed as a remedy to coughing and other breathing problems. There was no common sense since they had no scientific basis that smoking harmed you in particular let alone second hand smoke which was considered harmless well into the 20th century.
Sins not learning what happened in Blackwater
Sins learning how John got his scars
I know right? Like he complains about wanting to know the biggest mystery of the game they set up since the first game but then when the scars are revealed it's too much
It's two complete different sins.
Learning how John got his scar is not important to the story. Dartigan just says that it ruins the mystery of it by being so cliché. A fucking wolf scar. Wow, how original. I would also have liked it remained a mystery.
Blackwater, however, is essential to the plot. It is the main reason the whole gang needed to get away as for being criminal. Seeing everything Arthur and the crew does to the entire country in the whole game, it is justified wanting to know what happened back there, that didn't already happened after.
Knowing you commit all the crime possible in a map that isn't even that big, while never getting caught make me say: "Ok. So why did they need to leave Blackwater if they can get away with being enemy of the country ?" Considering that the said-place isn't bigger than the biggest city in RDR2.
On is not important to the plot and is told. The other is essential for the story and the coherence but isn't explained.
@@chineseobama6043 because its lame and his scars aren't metion in every mission.
@@layle0692 ^^^ what Chandler Burse said. And also the "not so big map" is massive. Keep in mind its a game, but if you line the map up on a map of the US, it represents about a third of the entirety. So a massive map. And you could also sin a game like GTA for giving you 3 stars for robbing a store, and also 3 for killing a cop. You expect RDR2 to punish you for killing loads of people, or committing massive crimes - but what punishment? If you rob a train and kill everyone on board, you get a massive bounty. Perhaps they should just respawn you once you kill 10 people with a message on screen saying "don't harm civilians". Clown 🤡
@@gamingandrewbro8815 getting scars from a wolf is lame? wolves that can weigh up to 180? 400 pounds of pressure per square inch bite? okay bro you're just hating just to hate at this point
I actually liked how Marston got his scar. Him being a total badass makes you think there was some over the top crazy story behind it, but there wasnt. Nice surprise
It's dumb. It's insanely pathetic how he gets scratches from a few doggos. 🤣
It's more hilarious than badass.
@@wetube6513Wolves are way deadlier than typical dogs though.
@@wetube6513 "from a few doggos" Bro those wolves are seen to be 2 times the size of the other dogs in the game, and even then what if those dogs were pitbulls bro?. I would would think surviving 4 or 5 angry pitbulls is badass, let alone wolves.
John gets shot in blackwater, then gets lost for days in a snow storm, and then is attacked by wolves, to which he not only fights them off supposedly, but he gets away from, all while injured. that's not over the top and badass to you?
@@jonrice3967 I killed thousands of wolves and bears and got shot thousands of times playing him. It’s badass of course, but compared to what he’s doing in the first game.. And since he is a major character I thought it’s kind of random event
26:37 you literally sin Johns reason for leaving the gang again, after sinning it earlier with different wording.
Trying to pad out the sin count?
He does this in a lot of videos. Recounting the same "sin" (opinion) as it occurs multiple times in a game but saying its something different... Its not.
He probably just didnt notice. I dont think the sin count is that big of a deal for him. I dont think these should be taken all that seriously.
i mean he did leave bc of the bank robbery. the train robbery just sealed the deal
D-did you just reference Th3 Birdman?
Craggsy's Creed ya damn right I did
5:35 Borrowed? The witness system was also in RDR1, which came out six years BEFORE Mafia 3.
This
“Borrowed” like how this guy borrowed this exact video format from cinema/game sins.
Take 2 interactive is the parent company of Rockstar games Take 2 made the mafia games. So i don't it is stealing or Barrowing.
@@raziel4435 uhm excuse me but in how far is using the same format as somebody else a bad thing? That would mean every action movie was ripping off the first action movie ever made.
Eins Truthahn you clearly missed my point
*game is too realistic*
Gets a sin
*game isn’t realistic enough*
Gets a sin
Correct. Because the game is kind of trash
@@Leo007619 its not the game, its the player
@@summerysteam96 “Its not the game, it’s the player.” 😂 You sound like the developers trying to defend Starfield reviews.
@@JKBlackClover 😂
@@Leo007619you mean trashier than you?
19:43 Thank you for bringing this up. It always bugged me that Dutch didn’t take the gold back. I was hoping that Rockstar would let us loot her body but nope, Arthur climbs the ladder in the cutscene.
That’s the one sin I’ll have to agree with
@Nathan Hurst why these are all bollocks they make no sense
you can go back down to loot the body. But apparently she ate the gold already.
Where are the minus 100 sins for the cinematic 'May I?' ride from Van Horn to Shady Belle?
Disgraceful.
Or when you get back from that island and it plays 'thats the way it is'
POTATO AND OTHERS Wrong moment, but yeah and that song
BlinkO may I is played when he dies I’m pretty sure
SB Productions Yes but also when he returns from Guarma
BlinkO oh ok didn’t realise that
14:24 Javier is really wanted there, and he is a very useful member of the gang
Not knowing what happened in black water is what makes that part of the games story great because it’s up to the player on how you want to interpret the black water massacre
Many of the things he says aren't even sins
One year later Edit: when i commented this i just finished the game so was a little defensive. Now i see the humor and some pretty accurate sins in this video
Ps: free micah
Psps: domince, i know they are pretty tough on you just fight them you are strong 💪
@Domince Gasperince II Good joke. It's far from perfect and it has flaws. But the pros far outweigh the cons.
Domince Gasperince II damn you should be a comedian
He Sins the inclusion of Stats and other gameplay mechanics like the game would somehow be better without extra things for the player to do and a progression system that makes you feel like your character is becoming more experienced.
I think he’s trying to copy what the guy does in cinemasins. Where most of the sins aren’t really mistakes.
Daan van Honschoten well it’s a version of CinemaSins so...
Ross has lines but at the very end of the game after you kill agent milton you can hear him yelling orders
Ya but the fishing line is the only one most people hear. I think.
I’m so glad I found this comment. He definitely has very few lines, but certainly more than one.
3:32 Sin 14: it doesn’t matter. There is no battery and the electrical shock is powered only from a swift, downward motion of the plunger. This means the detonator can’t store energy.
8:08 Sin 35: She HAS asked John to do something with Jack. Many times. It seems like it’s half of the camp dialogue.
9:05 Sin 40: Yes! Why don’t we try to arrest a famous gunslinger known to defeat tens of well equipped, well trained lawmen. Also to note that he does most of this in less than a fraction of a second, and can cure 15 bullet wounds with a bottle of moonshine?
12:06 Sin 56: Arthur was working as a deputy for the Grays. Giving the moonshine for free held up the saloon’s income for 30 minutes. The Grays would then find out about the hand playing both sides, but the gang obviously needed to hide that.
Stop being testy and angry. This game isn't perfect, *just accept that fact ok?*
@@wetube6513 or he's just pointing the nit picking and the small sins that make no sense
@@wetube6513 Stop being testy and angry. Dartigan is wrong, just accept that fact ok?
@@wetube6513 I mean he's Jack, he *will* try to defend the prequel to his father's game with the same name
Bro sin 35 makes zero sense at all, he complains and asks why John can’t take Jack fishing, and literally in the same cutscene, Arthur asks that and Abigail explains why.
The death of the horse was emotionally and more than just a "pre-ordered horse" if you stayed with the horse since the beginning, it's like losing a part of your family. Hell I finished the Hamish side missions with Arthur where he let's you keep Beull and even that tugged at my heart when it was Buell that died, in that moment it would be Arthur thanking not only the horse but also Hamish.
2:36
They didn't know where John was and were tracking him from the campsite they found. They also don't know the area they're in so there is no real reason that they'd logically go through the easier path.
“I gave you all I had...I did”
Yep that pretty much made it my favourite game of all time
Sadie stays with the gang because her house, along everything she owned, burned to a crisp. She has literally nowhere else _to_ go.
The act Hosea puts on in the bar with the moonshine is so that the Grays don’t recognise Arthur who is doing deputy work for them. He literally explained it when they were riding to the bar.
This is just my interpretation regarding Bronte’s invitation to the Mayor’s party. I think he did that just to swing his dick around in Dutch’s face about how powerful he is right before he fucks him over. His attitude when you kidnap him right before his death pretty much confirms that for me.
I’ll actually give that “everything important is in the middle of the book cliche” a pass because it’s literally bookmarked with a big ass piece of paper, signifying that page is actually important. Details, man.
John getting left behind isn’t that much of a retcon actually. John says to Arthur that Dutch could have stopped him from getting arrested if he wanted to but he just abandoned him. Not the first time in this game either. One was leaving him behind to get arrested at the bank, and then he got left behind to die during the train robbery.
Sadie could leaved when they reached west elizabeth
lo ko why would she do that? She clearly changed, she became a different person, she didn't wanted to start a life again, she liked being an outlaw.
and she basicly has no one to go to if you go to the Cabin in colter were John rests up after being helped down the mountain. Arthur can ask her if she has someone she can go to after they get down from the mountain and she says that she dosen’t.
The point of the video is not picking like this. It's a joke; you don't have to pull it apart
I fail to see how misinterpreting and having lack of knowledge on game is a joke
14:22 Yeah, he could, but isn't Javier a wanted man in Mexico?
He is wanted in Mexico and reward is 1000 dollars, you can find his bounty poster in Shady Belle
He is but they're all wanted in the US as well. And Dutch does them no favors with his idiotic "plans"
He alongside the gang, is wanted over many territories that Dutch still keeps insisting on going back to, by that logic they could've gone to Mexico.
@Chandler Burse Mexico hated him more than the US at first, but I doubt he's more wanted in Mexico than in the states after committing multiple massacres over 3 towns with the gang. They could go undercover and lay low in Mexico because I doubt they'd come after him anymore than the Pinkertons did in America.
Don’t you just love it when he sins this game because a character says or does something nonsensical or awful, and everyone else around them acknowledges it? Makes perfect sense to me, I mean who ever heard of writing a character to be that way? Absurd!
He's actually just stupid.
Ikr, sometimes i also say dumb shit lol
Might be just me, but I loved the more calm epilogue, it's as it should be, a slowed down close to a fast pased shooter
The Wanderer I loved it aswell, I loved how linear and straight foward it was compared to the rest of the game. It was a very nice part that ultimately leads up to a very satisfying ending. This game is a masterpiece,
@Markus Hellem where,
I loved the epilogue too. I don't understand why this guy was shitting on it.
@@noahisham7416 I don't believe he actually hates it, but that's his stihk as a Sinner,
Think how nitpicky CinemaSins or GCN gets.
Markus Hellem Show the “pointless dialogue”. And it’s the Wild West dipshit, sorry your child brain can’t handle not shooting for more than 5 seconds.
8:43 im not usually picky but Ross wasn't fishing, he was duck hunting. Sin added
He's being hella picky this whole vid.
I think you missed the point on Ditch killing the old woman and not taking back the gold.
It was there to symbolize that he didn't kill her because he thought she would betray them. The fact that he didn't take the gold back meant that this killing of his was purely for his satisfaction. If he killed her and then took the gold that would be his motivation, but the fact that he killed her anyway and didn't take the gold bar back was purely because he was officially a psychopath.
The only thing that sucks in Red Dead 2 is my horses vision
Pug Lolz best statment ever
Facts!!!
You forgot the terrible game disign
*ENDS VIDEO*
😂 true same here
Dutch wanting to keep John in prison is due to his paranoia about him believing John may be betraying him thanks to Micah convincing him about a rat in the gang. So when he does actions that will bring the law down on them yet yells at Arthur for breaking out John for the same reason, it's not so much a contradiction and more an excuse to not wanting him around
It's made clear that Dutch is suspicious of John and Abigail during chapter 5. Dutch tells Arthur while walking through the cave on the island that it's odd John was the only person the agents tried to arrest and not outright kill, and how odd Hosea was captured and not Abigail.
@@crosvale Exactly man
6:02 Kieran Duffy*
7:05 Downes*
8:15 Abigail says it's because Johns useless like 5 seconds later
10:00 She wanted to get revenge on the O'driscolls for killing her husband and she doesn't really have anywhere else to go
10:08 + 12:46 Trelawny*
14:25 I don't remember when in the game but I remember a piece of dialogue from Javier Escuela explaining that he can't go back to Mexico because the price on his head is so high
if i were to add, when he said why didn’t abigail make john take jack fishing, abigail resented john because he left multiple times and she wanted arthur to become like a second father. this vid is so picky istg
At camp in Shady Belle you can find a wanted poster of Javier on which it says 1000$ reward. I‘d say that‘s a shitton of money
Goes to show how clueless this guy is and how little attention he payed to the game
Platty Lad you guys don’t understand THATS THE POINT he’s meant to be nitpicky
connor h you can be nit picky but he isn’t even paying attention to the sins he’s giving and is just trying to give it as much sins as possible with doing as little research as possible
After 5 years i can finally watch this video!
My friend spoiled the ending to read dead 2 while i was actively installing the gane after buying it day one. So I put it down until about 4 months ago. 574 hours later and I'm crying at the end credits.
Love your content Dartigan
In description: " It is easily the best open world game I've ever played. ". Also in description: " I liked the first game better. "
To be fair to him, you can consider something "the best" and still personally like another thing better. Like with music, you can consider one band technically more proficient but still find another one more to your personal liking.
Ergo, he liked the open world but didn't like a lot of the other parts.
Yeah? What's wrong with that?
Having something be the best open world you've played yet doesn't really equate it as your favorite game
I get what you mean. He didnt word thos correctly.
@@femboy_twink the first game was open world...
The horse dying in the mission shouldn’t be sinned. It was put there as an emotional roller coaster. Wouldn’t make sense Arthur and John jumping off horses while being chased, the horse dying shows Arthur being at peace and a good person, that’s why he said thank you. I cry like a baby everytime I replay the game. It’s not a sin, it’s just sad.
He did say it was a Preorder horse.
@@DeoAsh ok, u can get another one at the stable for free
@@user-en7rr2jt1n No. He joked about paying extra in pre order and got that special horse. In this mission the horse u ride dies and u will never get that same horse again.
@@oldchannel5795 that's the point. If ur horse dies in that mission then until u start an entirely new game session u won't get that horse back.
Or if u want to avoid this, maybe u wouldn't buy that pre order horse at all then buy after that mission effectively loosing most of the storyline without that horse
Same here, this guy who makes these videos is a sad little man
This channel should be called "Game opinion counter"
Looow Layrs i mean that’s sort of half the point. Game/film sin channels are supposed to nitpick, it’s not 100% serious
Well somtimes over the top is funny
@@The44th no it's not dude stfu we've all got opinions on games and yours isn't any more important than mine and it's not facts so once again stfu
@@The44th triggered dumbass who's bad at games spotted.
Come on maaate "what really went down there Dutch" Loooooook at you journal period
He doesn't know how his dumb ass just rushed through the game
3:51 Well maybe, Strauss either had money on himself or he probably gotten the cash by selling something in a local store.
5:58 Yes, but it's a SPEEDING train. It would've taken more than a couple of seconds for it to stop.
6:35 Dutch wanted Lenny to get drunk so the whiskey could calm him down and forget about Micah, dude are you paying attention at ALL?
8:14 John was apathetic towards his son because he didn't want to believe he was his.
22:18 That's exactly why Dutch chose Beaver Hollow; not even the Law would think to look for them there.
Thank you
8:14
Yeah, at this point John can also be out prepping to rob the train, meaning he literally isn't around and there's no reason to sin John for not going since he's not even here to go
5:58 he literally said it wouldn’t be able to stop, the sin was about the conductor not even attempting to pull the brakes or even blare the whistle after seeing people on the bridge.
His journal tells you what happened in Blackwater
@Roy Gravelili. it talks about how they met Jenny, and Micah, how Dutch and Micah were planning to rob a ferry while Arthur and Hosea were trying to rob actual theives etc. How is that vague?
Dutch Van Der Linde there’s gonna be no more games about this story so fucking get over it
Dutch Van Der Linde the Problem about a Sequel is that the wild wild West is „over“
Easily my favorite game of the year. The “that's the way it is” and “May I?” moments won me over.
Its bfv for me
N3FARIOUS you mean bf1?
N3FARIOUS you mean dogshit
@@ghostmarine1036 you mean TheDOC?
Best videogame soundtrack, legit made me cry
Me: **finds a scroll saying everything that's wrong with red dead 2**
Also me: *there's nothing here*
Just because Story is good isn't going to make it flawless, Story and the graphics are great everything was Mediocre at best
@@10yearsinthejoint363 I think it’s impeccable
The story was the absolute worst thing I’ve ever had to experience in a video game. The free roam was fun for a while, but fuck those boring ass missions that barely allow you to use the controller
@@jokerhaha5123 What game are you playing lol? You 100% have not played this game before in your life. I have never met anybody ever, that has said that the games story is bad. Also what do you mean by boring mission that don’t allow use of the controller? Every mission has stuff such as shootouts and something to do, maybe skip the cutscenes if you hate it that much? That’s every story game ever, you know, a fucking story, so a lot of cutscenes.
@@PastPositive try typing that again without crying. You rdr2 fanboys are the most pathetic people in the gaming community. Yes some missions have shootouts, even those missions will strip you of certain guns and ammunition, tell you exactly where to go and when to shoot or mission failed. Hold x to follow, or ride at a snail’s pace while some boring ass dialogue takes place. I got so tired of the lack of agency by the Tahiti missions that I just started purposely failing every mission. The game still progresses to the end even when you fail every single mission and nothing changes in the story because it’s just a 30 hour movie that happens regardless of player input. The story is also boring as hell because we already knew what happened before the game was released.
I love this game and admit that it does have a lot of flaws, but dear lord, you got so much stuff wrong it would feel morally dubious of me to not dislike.
Got wrong what exactly?
You’re deep-throating Dartigan real hard rn
@Diamond Beau He admitted the game has flaws and you somehow called him a Rockstar dick rider: victim of your own flawed logic.
Diamond Beau must be soooooooo mad😂
Diamond Beau because you decided to be an asshole because someone respectfully said they didn’t agree with him. Oh and labeling someone to discredit them is a pretty good way to show us you have nothing of value to say.
“NO! MY PREORDER HORSE!”
OMG I’m dead 😂😂😂
The sincerity and pain this line was delivered with was perfect! :)
Max the deadpan made it all the better 🤣🤣🤣
Guess what voice I used to scream "You bastards !"...
@@takuansoho5836 Kyle's
We were all thinkin it if we brought it along haha
**sees title**
*YOU HAVE YEE’D YOUR LAST GODDAMN HAW!*
PARTNER
19:40 "the cave is a straight line"
maps shows multiple paths
this guy: im gonna pretend i didnt see that
But Arthur and Dutch could still go to the ladder even without her.
"more focused on shrinking horse testicles than creating a focused plot"... yeahhhhh you lost me at the 2nd sin
Me too, buddy. It feels like he's creating sins just for the sake of it and in the process, he is spewing hate on the game
@@The44th Jesus, did you even play the game?
@@The44th Yes, and none of them are good. And i'm not a fanboy, i didn't even play the game.
@@The44th Go play Minecraft
@@The44th have you played the 1st one?
"Rdr was superior to its sequel"
Well technically rdr2 is a prequel so i guess your half right
StuntDummyStudios a sequel is 2 games tied together doesn’t matter the order
Technically
Nick Courie "two" games tied together is literally a series not a sequel.......
And sure a prequel can be considered a sequel
but is it,is it really?
Oh you..
Gerardo Sproet "Red Dead" is literally the series not the sequel
Red Dead Revolver was the original that started off as a spiritual suscessor(look it up) to a Capcom game Gun.Smoke(look it up)
Red Dead Redemption 1 is the SPIRITUAL SUCCESSOR to Red Dead Revolver thats why none of the characters are canon in that story AND BEFORE YOU BRING UP MULTIPLAYER those characters were easter eggs,references,non-canon,don't act like y'all don't know R* love their easter eggs
Red Dead 2 is the prequel/sequel of the Redemption story and third installment of the series,it damn sure aint RDR3
28:30 - Am I the only one who remembers that John said "I had a daughter, but she died... BEFORE that, I rode in a gang". In the three years between 1908 (RDR2) and 1911 (RDR1), John had a daughter who dies.
I don't have the time to go through each of them bit by bit but... c'mon man, if you're going to nit-pick, at least do it right...
Rougeification woah I needed to see that I was wondering what happened to the girl , now it just seems kinda pointless like she existed in between games just to exist
They should've had her exist somewhere between 1907 and 1911. Like, at the very end of RDR2 after John and Abigail are married, she could mention her pregnancy, making John feel on top of the world.
@@notcooldude7891 well John's daughter could have died the year he abandoned Abigail and Jack
Alexander Jobe he has his daughter AFTER the gang.
Doesn't Javier say something about John's daughter when they meet?
"Show us what happened in Blackwater"
Complains that they revealed how John got scars while wanting one of the biggest things shrouded in mystery revealed. Plus you can go through the journal and newspapers to make a good enough theory of what happened.
He literally complained about having cover....
He's gonna complain about breathing too
It's because the cover system is shit
yeah cuz cover system is a shitty and boring system made for consoles
compare it to the flanking and fast paced combat of half life 2 and you'll see how boring rdr2's is
@@deadchanneldontwatch7347 Yeah
Just like Cinema Sins would
People do realize that you can adjust your settings so that free aiming is actually good? It’s not rockstar’s fault you guys won’t explore the settings or look on TH-cam? Jeesh
Thank you!!
cant understand people who complain about it...
I played all the first run with free aim and it was a hell of fun(sorry for my "mabey bad english")
The problem is it should be good from the get go, these guys are the same guys who made Max Payne 3.
Reon Thornton, you do have to realize that the majority of players use auto aim right? Free aim in max Payne was more popularized.
Well yeah because they are far more casuals than hardcore gamers in any game. I actually bothered to learn free aim with default controls and only started messing with the settings in GTA V, but had been using free aim even since GTA:Vice City with the appropriate weapons, and GTA:San Andreas when it became a major part of how I played. Max Payne had very solid shooting even in pure free aim, my only problems with it were some balance issues, particularly involving the sawn off shotgun and how damn slow the levelling was, but otherwise was a very polished shooter in auto and free aim.
For context I'm a console gamer, so no mouse involved.
@@reonthornton685 I just played for fun and the story. Don't care to use free aim, mainly cause aimings already hard enough
A Profanity Filter on a M Rated game
A Profanity Filter on a SINGLE-PLAYER M Rated game
FTFY
@@MGX93dot I think it's meant for the multiplayer.. idk how time consuming it would have been for a single player and multiplayer horse naming system.
Sex and violence are A-OK, hate speech will not be tolerated.
@@mariokarter13 sex and violence are part of the plan... But one little ole hateful word AND EVERYONE LOSSES THEIR MINDS
@mariokarter13 - The irony is the game's set in a time when hate speech wasn't just tolerated, it was institutionally encouraged.
Guys, for all of you who are objecting this guy like a big baby, this video is called "everything wrong with red dead redemption 2". This is not a review of how good or bad the game is but *everything wrong* not everything right. If you really just gonna comment stuff like "NoT tRuE, *insert random objection here* !!!!" Or "YoU'rE wRoNg!!!!!", then just stop watching this video and giving it dislikes because it ain't changing anything except making the RDR2 community look like a bunch of angry babies.
Just watch "Everything GREAT with red dead redemption 2" then you big testy googoogaagaa babies.
Most of these sins make no sense
@@DysfunctionalJ Its just a fucking video made with a simple idea calm down please. You guys are completely OKAY with everything wrong with Life is strange, everything wrong with Until dawn, but not everything wrong with ReD dEaD rEdEmPtIoN 2!?
Grow up.
But the red dead 2 community are a bunch of babies.
They can't actually acknowledge the flaws with the story whatsoever.
@@edgarallanpwned6666 don't forget them attacking others if they prefer Arthur over John
I know that this game isn’t perfect but come on most of those sins aren’t even real complains
Jup, most of these arent even nitpicks, they are just wrong if you think a bit about them with a few legit points
This game is so awesome.
@anthony rubio a bit more elaboration?
@Cathy Ige he's a troll, he's not going to give you anything
@@kevinjustin7646 most of the game is riding a horse and listening to cut scenes
How did you not mention the fact that the game recreated the box art of the first game in this game in the epilogue with John?
*Finds a book that says everything wrong with red dead*
Me: It’s blank.
Edit: it’s blank as long as your talking about the story mode
It's not blank but definitely not how much exaggerated in this video
Except for the ancient shooting mechanics that makes it impossible to hit anything without auto aim
@@The44th no most of it is a blessing
@@The44th yes it is and you can't say I'm wrong mate your opinion means nothing
@@The44th just by how clamped you are I can tell your a virgin rage indusive lil bitch
I gotta be honest Woody Jackson’s scores for both this game and Red Dead Redemption are absolutely incredible. You can hear the influences of Spaghetti Western composers like Ennio Morricone, but it never becomes an immitation of a Morricone score.
There are many things that YOU had wrong but the problem I will address is the tuberculosis symptoms. When Arthur escapes being hung upside down, it shows a cutscene of him being injured. A message shows up saying that a few months passed so the injury could be healed. Those few months could’ve been enough to show symptoms for tuberculosis. I’m not sure if you skipped the cutscene or were just too ignorant to notice this.
It was a few weeks after he escaped, not months. Not to mention it's never really specified when exactly Arthur caught it. Sure there is that one mission where the guy coughs blood in his face, but you can go through the whole game without ever doing that side mission and he still gets sick.
@@alphahale7668 no, you have to do that mission. I don't think it's a side mission.
@@pouyathedestroya9095 Huh. I may be wrong then. I haven't done that mission yet and my Arthur is already coughing tho.
@@alphahale7668 you have to do it. In fact, its the only required loanshark mission for strauss
@@amidala1622 I see! My mistake then. :)
"I hate that the game doesn't explain in detail what exactly went wrong in Blackwater. Fuck the mystery around it."
"I hate that the game explains in detail how John got his scars. It ruins the mystery around it."
*Bruh.*
But you see, John's scars are a trivial matter which don't have any important aspect to them, while the Blackwater incident is something that is heavily referenced during the whole game
Simply, the Blackwater incident needs an explanation while John's scars don't.
Raneilija We’re given enough info about the heist. All the audience needs to understand is that shit went sideways, people got shot, gang members died. They give us enough information with out having to tell us every detail letting the player imagine how things played out.
I agree entirely if they started the game with the blackwster the game would suck because your first impression of it is that it’s Robin cowboy game instead of a game about family and protecting those you love
@@raneilija What's difficult to understand that Micah made the heist in black water fail, and threw shit sideways, you really need the game to feed you informations with a spoon?
@@imasaltyperson1947 I was trying to explain Dartigan's point of view rather than my own. I personally like how the Blackwater incident isn't explained completely, leaving room for theories and such. Knowing and seeing the origins of John's scars was also something I enjoyed. Sorry for the confusion.
"superior to its sequel in every way"
I don't know about that one, chief.
It’s a prequel, chief
@@caydenobrien9671 I think you missed the point.
Its definitely superior in the graphics and realism Department.
@@andrewcoble1834 idk y u would bring up graphics of an almost 10 year old game
@@hectorsthoughts3737 hes talking about superiority... thats something thats superior to the first game. 🧐
Still my favorite game! Also, the many storylines in the end actually fits with the gang elements of the story. There are many characters, and they all have they’re own perspective and personality. Makes things more real.
"Arther should teach John that trick. Might save his life one day"
20:57
*proceeds to exit dead eye mode*
Except Arthur doesn't need to teach John this trick because that wasn't what John was trying to do.
8:40 why does that deserve a sin?!
He’s putting very unreasonable stuff in this it’s annoying
Plus Ross wasn't fishing, he was duck hunting
The sin is how “easy” a prequel can tie a connection.
Instead of properly foreshadowing something, they made a connection unnecessarily connection between Jack and Ross
@@t-bone4760 why? is just a small detail for the OG RDR fans and doesnt add anything to the plot, so it's not a sin.
I don't get the line "Prequels make such poetry easy."
Like, if the second game came out first and the first game was actually the second, wouldn't it be the exact same? Like don't sequels "make such poetry easy" too?
Instead of: "Hey Jack killed Ross, while Ross was fishing by the river, let's have their first meeting be while Jack fishes by a river." it would have been: "Hey, you know how Jack first met Ross while Jack was fishing by a river? Let's have Jack kill Ross while HE is fishing at a river." It's like the exact same.
What if it both happened in the same game? Because both decisions would have been made during the same writing process, the poetry would have been even easier to write. Like, what would make writing "such poetry" hard?
In RDR ross didn't fishing He was hunting ducks
How can he fishing He had à rifle
Facts bro
he was shooting the fish
like a real man
at sin 100 / 18:57
“how much does god hate these people?” that was perfect lol
So early that there was no thumbnail
same xD
Yeah, lol
Two hours later, and there's STILL no thumbnail.
Same Here
So that's what that means? I thought when I initially saw it that the video had been deleted, but I clicked anyways.
8:47 Jack does not kill Ross as he is fishing! He Kills Him as He DUCK HUNTS!!!
Or hunts ducks
?
Though don’t all the characters you ask about Ross as Jack say that he’s fishing by the river?
@@Hellcaiser4 Idk, but I know when I killed ross in the dual before the credits he was hunting.
28:30
The daughter was born after John and Abigail officially got married and died right before Agent Ross came to force John to go hunt down Bill, Javier and Dutch
Or in other words after Rdr2, but before rdr1
5 years later and I still love this video. People are way too forgiving of Rockstar games. I’m happy someone was willing to point out the flaws.
Great video but I just have 2 sin complaints.
1. The time between Arthur getting infected with TB and him showing symptoms must have been many months rather than a few weeks. Considering they shifted locations twice and went through that entire Guarma debacle.
2. I wouldn't say it's too much of a cover shooter where you just stay down and wait for enemies to pop up. I prefer go FPS style and move around whenever I can.
He sounds like how Mark Zuckerberg looks..
Gregory Derossett like a frog
Gregory Derossett he sounds like Carl from Llamas with hats
I can hear the human-like robot voice
After chapter 6,
Dutch standing over arthur’s grave
Dutch: I have a plan
necrophilia
@@jadenwilliams615 OH NO
A better way to phrase it
"I *had* a plan, Arthur!"
Implying that Arthur, yet again, went against Dutch's plans. This time by dying lol.
Chapter 7: I have a plAn! And we need mOney!
And John said he got shot in a robbery. He never said it was a bank robbery.
The worst thing about this game is (spoiler)
Arthur's death
a close second is Uncle's LuMbAgo
The only worst thing about this game is that half the map is un-accessible until you reach the epilogue.
I think its the best
Micah
Renegade1k86 It’s apart of the story.
21:25 According to the C.D.C you can develop symptoms within a few weeks but it varies from person to person. Also it was 1899 smoking was considered healthy. And arthur does'nt die from just tb he also got the shit beat out of him.
i agree but it's really tb that kills him if he hadn't gotten it he would have killed micah by beating him to death
@@Random-ns9rr TB is the only reason Arthur doesn't wipe the floor with Micah.
@@ManOfStamp38 yeah arthur would've beaten micah to a pulp
Considering the kind of life Arthur lives, it makes sense that the illness develops faster.
plus the game is said to be over the course of atleast 6 months so i’m pretty sure it could develop
This guy would be horrible at CinemaSins. (ding)
Can you be horrible at something already horrible? It'd just be average.
@@SimonPetrikov12 He's just that bad
Diamond Beau No, he's actually just wrong 90% of the time. Jeremy from CinemaSins is actually accurate and way funnier.
@Diamond Beau wow you should watch your profanity
Diamond Beau You made the first claim, the burden of proof is on you _partner_