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I'm loving how when it comes to paints this hobby is becoming spoiled for choice and it's slowly becoming a candy store.
These guys seem very excited and enthusiastic I'm definitely going to check it out even if I can't get the paints I hope they get all the funding they need.
What a time to be alive eh
Thank you very much for your support! 🥰
I've been pretty excited about these paints ever since I heard about them last year! I also find it impressive that it's just three friends who are trying to build some cool products for a hobby they love and throw their hat into the ring with the big boys. If nothing else, it is quite admirable and I plan to pitch in some to their Kickstarter to hopefully get their business off the ground (I also saw a breakdown of what their expenses are going to look like throughout the kickstarter, very impressed by the transparency)!
Yeh, the entire operation is very exciting and I really wish them all the very best.
Thank you very much for the kind words. And a thousand thanks for your support! Yes, we try to be really transpartent and for people to touch and discuss. We are very grateful to be a part of this incredible community.🥰
@@RisingApe Thank you so much! 😍
It’s great to have another chi piece of paint supplier to keep the challenge fresh for all the other encumbents. I look forward to adding this guys to the mix
It’s genuinely a very good paint, keep an eye on it
Thank you! Yes, we really try to make a difference and bring some more innovations to the paint sector. 🤓
First and foremost, I'm super excited for these paints. I will get them for sure, as I feel like whatever these guys are doing is very worth supporting. Secondly, I've subscribed without really knowing what type of content you do but this video was so well done, that you also deserve support! Keep doing what you do!
Thanks so much, really appreciate the comment
Thank you very much for these kind words and your support. 🥰
IMHO, the amount of paint ranges currently out there makes it really hard for beginners to choose the right one to start with...
I do completely understand that sentiment, I always say buy the paint you can get easily. Most brands are good enough to start. I wouldn’t hesitate to recommend these though
Simply the best colours I ever used
They are really good for sure, I have some many amazing paints but these have definitely added some into the fold
Thank you so much! Nice to hear that! 😍🥰
Brush licking without regrets! Can`t wait until the kickstarter kicks in 🙃
No ReGeRtS 😉
I’ve been waiting for these and after watching this I hope I can jump on board and back it
Excellent, if you have any questions I will be sharing more stuff on my discord and eventually on YT too
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@@RisingApe thanks, I’ll definitely be keeping an eye on your TH-cam 👍
Superb video! Tyvm. I've pledged the big box and I'm already Callander watching 😂. Thank again.
Any time 😉
Great video. OK. I'm all about these paints. A mix of my two favourite lines 🤤
Me too, me too
😍🥰 Nice to hear, that the properties we like most also other people want to have. 😅
Lovely set of paints! Will certainly be backing it, although I didn't really understand the way the kickstarter works, but plenty time to find out when it goes live.
Aye it’s a little confusing but essentially they will have a limited range initially with the full range unlocking as stretch goals. This is to ensure they are able to deliver on their main goal of establishing the paint company.
Yeh, get that kickstarter going and we will back it
Absolutely
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The paints seem great. I will for sure be taking a good look at them.
Excellent
Thank you very much! 🥰
Came here after Zumikito mentioned you in his latest video! Subbed!
Amazing! Thanks
Would be very interested to know how these airbrush. I noticed that very matt paint can be more difficult to airbrush, but that a thin consistency can compensate for that. Would love a follow up video about this subject (or about a different subject, but does feature airbrushing these paints).
Noted, I did show the results of airbrushing the yellow, short versions is it works. Really well, but does still need some thinning
So excited to try these out. Do we know when the kickstarter might open?
15th of may, check out the description for the KS page to follow
Interesting video, thanks
Your welcome
Great stuff friend 👏 👍
Thanks 🙏
Do these airbrush well? Everyone seems to talk about the brushing.... But i primarily airbrush. How are these for that use???
I have used them all through the airbrush and they work as well as any other paint. The finish is smooth and matte
I've been kind of following Ultracryl for a while now, ever since I saw a comment about them in one of your older videos, so it's nice to get something like this.
If it's anything like Pro Acryl and Kimera, then that's good in my book.
Speaking of Pro Acryl, looks like you've run into it's weird aversion to raw plastic/smooth surfaces. Bases are kind of deceptive, because although they have those bumps, the micro-texture is still like that of raw plastic. It really needs to be used over a primed or lightly sanded surface, otherwise it kind of acts like paint does on an over-saturated/glossy wet palette paper.
Aye it’s a funny one that, all the paints were painted onto raw plastic, only the pro Acryl beaded up. But as you say that’s not a bad point on them really as it would be better over primer
I have tested PRO Acryl (positively referenced here several times) and was rather astonished how much rougher the surface of the painted patch (Bold pyrrole red, MPA-003) felt in comparison to Vallejo model color or AK 3rd Gen. painted test patches. Even rougher than Andrea (NAC-33) or Abteilung 502 (ABT-1125) and already noticeable on the wet palette. For me an indication of rather coarse pigment.
Would be interesting to know about the quality of ultracrylic paint in this regard.
I am no expert but the texture can also come from the mattering agents and how they are applied/ thinned etc. I haven’t used Pro Acryl pyrol Red but their burnt red is one of my favourite colours and I use their Jade and White all the time too.
What would really make these stand out, it pigment and transparency information on the bottles.
It’s all there 🫡
@@RisingApe Might have missed it. Was that in the video?
@@Wijkert it’s come up in the comments but the answer to your question is they will have pigment info transparency info and mixing ratios available
Great video. Found your YT via their IG. Only feedback is your sound levels jump up and down between scenes sometimes. ❤
Thanks for watching.. will try to fix the audio, the eternal battle
Being a polyurethane-acrylic mix, did you notice a difference in how the Ultracryl handled compared to the more standard Citadel/Vallejo paint?
Honestly there isn’t much difference in application, the finish is much more matte than the satin of Citadel or Vallejo. The PU is intended to be tougher, I certainly haven’t had any issues even applying without primer.
Intriguing. I have some questions. Not your job to answer them all but hey, its a comment for the algorithm at least ;)
Do they thin well to a glaze?
Did you like the bottles? I like Kimera but find the bottles annoying, need to wipe them or paint will dry and lid wont close.
Non toxic is great. But do they taste well? Heh.
I hope they have some more testing content coming up, would love to know more.
By all means ask, I almost included those very answers in the video, so may well end up with a follow up, by all means jump over to my discord to ask too. They thin amazingly very similar to Kimera tbh.
I do like the bottles, the ones in the KS will be 20ml whereas the beta paints are 10ml the narrow nozzle is particularly good I worried about clogging but 4 months in and nothing yet.
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@@ten01_labs Great. I really like what I am hearing about the paints.
Suppose you back and get the full set, and aftee a while you use up all the yellow, because why wouldnt you, it sounds great. Will you be able to order extras of single bottles later on? Maybe hard to answer of course, but assuming the kickstarter goes well.
Are you going to list on the bottles which pigments are in them?
Cheers and good luck!
@@Vortid Thank you very much! Great to hear that! 😍
After the KS we will also sell the paints as single bottles. If this is a good idea then depends on your location and the postage cost I think. But we also have good prices from Deutsche Post.
We are also in contact with some well known retailer, but I can not guarantee, that they will sell them as single bottles. Time will tell. ☺
@@ten01_labs Yeah to sweden that will be fine. Good good, pretty excited about this kickstarter :)
@RisingApe will you choose ultracryl over kimera as your main paint set?
I have been really impressed so far, but until the full range is in my hands and tested for a while it’s really hard to say. I am absolutely using the beta paints as part of my main workflows.
Will the bottles indicate if paint is transparent vs opaque? Like in artists paints.
Yes using the standard square marker, I will post in my discord and also pop a community post up here too
Is there any information available regarding the pigments used? Are they safe/non toxic?
Yeh they are all non toxic and the pigments used, listed
@@RisingApe Thats right. We do not use any toxic pigment or ingredient. The pigments are listet on each bottle and at the KS there will also be a big sheet where they are all listet.
They definitely do look rather interesting, that's for sure. I've rather enjoyed how open they are about a variety of things, but especially their focus on single pigment paints, and an overall high quality in general.
They are going to do both, so single pigments and also blends. The toxic green is a blend and it’s amazing
Thank you very much! We really appreciate your words! 🥰
@@RisingApe And don't forget that we will provide the exact mixing ratios, so you can do all mixtures your self by only using the mono pigmented paints.
@@ten01_labs Wow, that's amazing!! Most of other brands gives the pigments, but not the ratios, so is difficult to match the colors.
@@rubenpalomollinares1479 Yes, that's right. At the time we started this project in 2018 our only goal was to produce the best paint possible for our selfs. At this time no one of us thought about starting a business with this. So we decided all topics in favour like we would love them to be. Including transparency about the used pigments, the paint properties like ultra matt, mono-pigmented paints as well as mixtures, ultra opaque quite fluid, a bottle with better dosing control and very clear so you can see the real hue of the paint inside, no harmful ingredients and a agitator already inside. ☺
I am interested in these! I cannot fathom how, and more importantly why, people lick their brushes. To me they're the kids in kindergarten that would eat glue. That's completely idiotic to me. Cadmium is toxic.
I know what you mean, but these are 💯 non toxic
Is there any way to see what the metallics look like?
I only have a couple of the metallics and they are early betas but I can absolutely share details in mine and their discords. They are very like Vallejo metal colour
@@RisingApe I will take a look there then because thats a part of the range I'm excited to see, thanks!
Honestly I’m a bit annoyed by the big amount of paint kickstarters, but I’m really considering going full in with this one after your video and the talk the team did with the Diceonauts podcast.
Mostly I’m excited to get some new basic greens for Orks and finding a better way to paint my greenish blue SpaceMarines. Right now I use 5 different steps just to get the base tone right :D
I really know what you mean, but honestly these are very different to others and they are a great team. That said at the end of the day almost any paint can work
As long as they have pigment codes and transparency markers on the bottles I'll be pleased as punch. Cobalt violet is such a fringe colour, my tube of it in oil costs over 100$ so if these psychos are offering that as cheap as they it is, im here for it.
they do, they are and I haven't seen the cobalt violet yet but I am all here for it too.
😂 Yes, for the KS they all will cost €3.50. Afterward, we will split the prices in three categories and the cobalt pigments will end up for sure not in category 1. 😉😊
hi, phil from ten01 here! All cobalt pigments are really expensive, especially in the last two years the price of everything cobalt went up. Since we get the pigments directly from the manufacturers, we still get a pretty good deal. Some mix calculation later, we can still offer it in the Kickstarter price. By the way, all manufacturers of cobalt ceased production of the original violets PV14 and PV49 (dark and light variants). One manufacturer is still producing it, but under a new pigment number PV92. By the way ... the only industrial use besides artist paint of cobalt violet is to add it to white plastic window frames (in tiny amounts) in order to cancel out the yellowing of the PVC. Violet is complementary to yellow, ;-) so, no wonder why almost nobody manufactures it anymore.
I might give them a punt, but they sound a lot like the Instar Paints honestly. They're also fluid, single pigment paints with some nice coverage and good flow.
Honestly I haven’t used instar, but they have 24 single pigments and 45 blends (like skin tones etc) coming too.
From what i'm reading, it sounds like a carbon copy almost in all regards
I just had a look at them, and I would agree. Looks like they had the same wishes and ideas. We started at 2018 and they already at 2017.
As far as I can see, they have 16 single pigmented paints.
We are providing 24 and some very nice pigments from the artist space which leads to the biggest color gamut possible (excluding toxic pigments) and some of them are much more opaque than the regular pigments.
So I see an USP for the Ultracryl paints in these cases. But I like what I see there.
@@ten01_labs this is the issue, there are so many brands out there now it’s hard to know who’s doing what and too easy to make a claim that you’ve (not saying you haha) done it first.
Instar had the problem of Alpha being released after Contrast. People thought that they were just trying to copy it when in fact it was something totally different.
The biggest difference here appears to be that Ultracryl acts more like a traditional acrylic paint, while Instar is extremely fluid to the point they act more like thick inks. Imo out of the two, Ultracryl appears to (so far) be the better product for the average hobbyist.
These pigments are absolutely in other miniature paint lines such as Citadel and Vallejo if you know where to look
Oh for sure, in fact many paints use the same pigments, but GW/ Vallejo don’t say which pigments so you can’t tell. Where as these, Kimera, S75 artist and various other art brands list the pigments. If you jump into the Ultra Series Discord they are really transparent about what’s in the paints, down to the binders and solvents. It’s interesting to see and very welcome to see the transparency.
@@RisingApe i think the main reason it’s not told is that there is this incorrect assumption (not even sure where it started) that the finer ground the pigment, the better it is at coverage…but this is all complete horse. It’s a massive combination of factors that go into it along with the binders and other additives.
Even the binders don’t make a huge amount of difference to the coverage and are largely there to be a carrier for the pigment, the more dense the binder, the less pigment it can carry but the better protected it is and the opposite for a less dense binder. Then you need to couple in the refractive index that can affect the final colour too.
This and the fickle nature of painters themselves. Everyone has a favourite and is the yardstick they use to measure other brands, to the point where everything else is crap because it’s not the same.
That’s the hardest part of it all, anyone can make a paint to be perfectly honest with you. It’s not quite rocket science 🙂
How do i know this? I make my own brand too
@@iandelaney8049 you’re right of course that lots of things affect the paint properties, not least the pigment itself. I think the main reason brands don’t share the pigments is to avoid sharing their recipes and to create exclusivity. If you’re interested in Ultra Series and their components recommend their discord, chat to them and they will happily explain better than I can.
I wouldn't entirely agree with that.
Let's take the orange pigment PO73, for example. I could not find such a bright orange as PO73 either at vallejo or GW. At most, PO36 is used there. And if you look at the price difference, it's also clear why.
Of course, we don't only use these high-performance pigments, but also the usual suspects. There's nothing to be said against that. But if you want the brightest orange, to stay with the example, you need PO73. Toning down saturated colors is always possible, but no matter how you mix, a color will not become more saturated.
And we have several pigments in our line you don't see in miniature paints, but in the artist sector like Schmincke for example.
Cheers,
Marcel
@@ten01_labs i think may end up agreeing to disagree on this one. Having conducted enough investigations into what pigments are used in paints, alot of them utilise similar pigments since larger manufacturers buy them in bulk. A good example would be GW, Nocturnal and Coat D’Arms all being made by HMG. As for the Orange example, Troll Slayer Orange would fit the bill for PO73.
Even Vallejo use single pigments for those RAL colours that are labelled as such, just for coverage reasons (like nearly all other brands) they include more TiO2 and Calcium Carbonate which leads to a lightening of the colour (which you’d know anyway) since that’s what their customers are after.
I am rather looking forward to the cobalt turquoise. If this is a single pigment PB 36 color coverage may be a challenge and direct comparison with the respective Kimera color very interesting.
I am looking forward to the cobalt too, the Golden acrylic version is semi transparent but then so is their Bismuth Yellow and these guys transformed that hugely. But as it stands, I haven’t tested it
The cobalt turquoise is the PG50 pigment. There is a green variant and a turquoise one. The green variant is near the regular PG7, so not that outstanding, but the turquoise is really nice. And the PG50 is very opaque.
hi, phil from ten01 here! Naming of cobalt pigments is a little bit all over the place. There are two basic variants, cobalt turquoise light (PG50&PB28) and cobalt turquoise dark (PB36). PB28 can also be the regular cobalt blue and PG36 is often also referred to as cerulean blue which is also PB35. This comes from the chemical composition, if there is chromium added or titanium or tin... we are using PG50 (which can also be a variant of cobalt green ;-) ) which is often also referred to as cobalt teal. confused? haha
Thanks for supporting us, you are going to love it!
New post from Ten01 Labs said they need to include a warning about the titanium in their white paint. What happened to the focus on non toxic pigments? I’m not a brush licker but I do expect people to keep their word. What else have they changed without clarity?
Titanium white is required to have a warning in the state of California but is widely used in the food sector and is a non toxic pigment afaik, it’s used in toothpaste for example
@@RisingApe thanks for the explanation, it’s much appreciated.
@@TheEnd no worries 😉 if you are into that sort of stuff though Ten01 have a discord and you can just ask them, or head over to mine for that matter.
These look really good, I will be watching these long term, but short term will not be good timing for me unfortunately.
Sad, but if we are funded, there will be also a chance to get them later on! 😃
That’s fair enough, I am sure you can pick them up later too, but you have to be sensible money wise at the end of the day
TH-cam randomly recommended a German video talking about them and piqued my interest lol They look great. I don't get how they get such strong yellows with no cadmium
Aye I know, I should really investigate Bismuth Yellow more.
We are using PY184 Bismuth Vanadate Yellow. It's absolutely amazing pigment. It's not used from the most miniature companys because of the price of the pigment I would bet. It's really expensive and if you want to achieve maximum coverage you need a lot of it. For this reason you can find this pigment in the artist paint ranges like Schmincke etc.
9:21 whoopsie
Holy hell these are expensive....
Are they? Pretty sure they are €3.50 for 20ml so while that’s more per unit than citadel you get more almost double the paint and they are amazing quality too.
@@RisingApethrough the Kickstarter though, I'll have to pay specialized shipping to the US, as well as customs. Compared to Proacryl from monument, which seems comparable in many ways, it's muuuch more expensive.
@@JohnSmith-rt5yq yeh depending on how the shipping works out they may well be more expensive. They will be available in US retailers post KS too. At that point they will be available from a price around that of citadel. They are most similar to Pro Acryl that I have tested but some colours are significantly better others like pro acryls white I would say are better than these though. So it’s very much personal preference
Brush lick is lief
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1:50 I am not convinced that is er strong coloration between well performing pigments and how expensive they are. There are many different reasons why a pigment is expensive.
💯 but certainly high saturation and luminosity is one indicator. Another would be light fastness or chemical properties like weather resistance for example too.
@@RisingApe You said: "paints that extent very well and stay saturated are a indication of expensive pigments". I think it is more a indication that the paints are highly pigmented or that the pigments used have a high tinting strength. There are pigments that are very expensive, but don't have great properties and visa versa. Maybe high saturation is more an indicator that less pigments are used or that they are single pigment paints. Also there are very expensive pigments, with a bad light fastness. Again I would not relate those properties to the cost of the pigment.
There are always exceptions to every rule but it’s a fair comment perhaps it would be more accurate to say AN indicator but certainly not the only
@@RisingApe I wouldn't relate it to cost at all. Instead maybe more to quality of the pigment and thus also quality of the paint. I think the reason that we are talking about cost, is because the guys that are making these paints, are talking about cost. They have to think about their unique selling points and say something like "we use more expensive pigments than other hobby paints manufacturers". Since nobody except for Kimera reveals what pigments are in their paints, this statement is unverifiable. So for me personally, it is best to leave it out of a review or at least make the distinction between what they claim and what you think of the paint after using it.
Yes, you are right, a high price don't makes a good pigment. But on the other hand, there are very good pigments out there (here I focus on properties like opacity, brilliancy, saturation etc.) that are not used in the regular miniature paints but can be found in artist paints. Mostly used in oil paints. These are not used because of the very high price.
That's the only point we wanted to make. For sure we are also using the standard pigments and some of them are quite cheap, some not. For example for a brown you don't need to use a high performance yellow and the brightest super expensive red to mix it. There are very good pigments that do a great job here. But if you want the brightest and most saturated possible orange, there is a pigment you can use, but it's an expensive one. 🙂
Now I really hope they don't launch at the same time as Kimera and Broken Anvil because our wallets can only take so much beating at once :P
edit: damn, it's 15th of May, they are going to run into trouble because of it.
Aye I wish there was more advance notice of all these paint KS 😂
Looks like we got lucky. 😅
Awesome! We really didn't expect such a start. 😍🥰
Many thanks to all supporters!💙💜💚💛🧡
The guys you interviewed where a little difficult to understand. I mean, fair enough when there first language isn't English. What I think would have helped is less music in the background, especially when they where talking.
I will bear that in mind thanks
Nice vid as always!
A paint that has/is a Pro Acryl / Kimera combo quality, that does sound intriguing indeed!
I'm with you regarding the thickness. I do prefer paints that I can/have to thin, but not as thick as the Kimera paints. That said, I do LoVe the PA paints, they're amazing! So maybe I'm wrong in this sentiment? The only drawback that I've noticed so far with PA, is when using them on a wet palette, they can become very runny, very easily/quick and I can't say I ever found a proper fix to this, except use them with a well palette.
The price/ml seems very fair (let's see how it adds up with VAT and shipping). My only question is, do I need yet another paint range? And do I actually have the space to store them somewhere (especially since I did pledge for the 72x TTC paints...)?
edit: Don't know if you have the final design of the bottles. But the ones that you got, are they the same thickness as normal dropper bottles? Or like the PA ones?
I'm wondering if I might be able to store them in my MiG wall racks. (www.migjimenez.com/en/accessories/333-17-ml-ammo-storage-system.html)
edit2: Seems the bottles have the same width as Molotow paints (21.5mm, Vallejo/AK bottles are 24.3mm), but are 20 mm shorter. (-:
I have to say I have really enjoyed using these, the consistency is almost too thin but somehow works well, they are thinner that PA.
I have Beta bottles so the official ones will be taller (20ml)
Thanks btw
@@RisingApe Thinner then PA, that kinda scares me a bit. But hey, if you say it works, I trust you. (-:
Do they have the same tendency to suck up water as PA does, on a wet palette I mean?
@@Himle_ no if anything for me they go the other way, but since I changed palette paper to the RGG reusable I don’t get that issue as much
@@RisingApe Awesome news!
Still have a bunch of the old paper left to use up before switching to the new. :( And yeah, to cheap to throw them away^^