We shouldn't have to do any workarounds to create a local account. a "local account" is the very definition of a PC (Personal Computer), and this is unacceptable for anyone that understands tech or has half a brain. A lot of people seem to be so ant-privacy that I think they would actually stick a sensor up their own ass if Microsoft told them to. Companies forcing the "Everything is a Service" philosophy is wrong. If I pay for something, it's mine and I'll use it as I please!
Talk about they want everything, Went to set up dads new laptop for him and he uses onedrive witch i despise of before moving any photos over to the new drive i created an folder then went to the settings to turn off sync well do you think it was as easy as that yeah na they doing anything they can to get all of ya data that rightly belngs to you yet they making more and more sneaky ways to prevent you from not share with them, without removing OD altogether
At the very least, Give me the option. Real clear, (option A) or (option B). No crazy "hidden" way to mess it up. And for people who do things without looking. It needs to default to a (Personal Computer) (private), setting. If you want to be part of the "collective", it needs special attention to alter those settings.
It's never really been that way as much as people think it should be. Hell, if you bought a music CD you are assuming a state of limited licensing. In their eyes, you don't really own it. Same with Nintendo and their brigade against Blockbusters of the world in the 90s and purchasing their games used.
I hate Microsoft...so controlling. When you purchase a product it should ALWAYS be up to the user whether he/she wants an account or not, without having to resort to workaround tactics. It's always seems to be a Microsoft v us situation, and that's not right.
Why don't you complain about Google because you also pay along with the price of phone for Google services they require you to have Google account and spy on you and you like hate Microsoft only don't you see apple also does the same with apple id on Macs
@@CyberCPU But becuase most ppl use play store where its required an Google account so for now they dont need to put such requirement yet Microsoft store however , not even to this day most ppl do not use that thing Microsoft rly tries to make like a centralized OS like how Android is where you pretty much end up downloading everything from their store, sure on Android you can download stuff from whatever you please but most dont do that unless its piracy or videogame cheats/hacks
@@CyberCPU Just curious, as you will know on 8.1 you can swipe from right to left with the mouse and you get a big time of day sign accross the screen unlike 10 that could not. Is 11 the same?
Each version removes more and more control from the users, and pushes us to the bad old days of timeshare mainframe computing (what they call "cloud" these days), and more invasion of privacy.
That's the way it's going. Eventually you will buy the hardware and have to lease everything else, your hardware is effectively useless without third party contracts. The 'ownership' of a product is actually a scam, it forces you into the system that they control. Some cars force you into a deal to access all the features of the car.
Or we could end up in the days of not even owning the hardware like phones used to be. I can see the ads now: 'You can buy your own hardware buy why go through all that trouble?! Just lease from us (Microsoft) and you can have the best hardware sent to you an a tri-yearly basis and, as an extra bonus, we will boost your modem, memory, storage, and CPU speeds. Unlike what you get when you make a self-built system!'
@@grahamwinston3692 Then just don't buy it and let it sit on the shelf. When the masses quit buying the products and they have millions to billions of units sitting on shelves and can't move them... Then the loss becomes theirs not ours.
@@skilz8098 This almost never works, particularly for products deemed "essential" to the average home. Your normal, everyday consumer doesn't care about what's happening because they need that MSOffice application and Excel spreadsheet for their job, or they need that internet for whatever else they're using a PC for. The steps they take to get there are inconsequential to them. That's what happens when things become mainstream and companies want you locked in to a ton of services as a life-time open wallet. Mainstream folks don't care about anything other than getting the box that does the thing.
As a tech support specialist, I will say I've had to help dozens of customers who used Microsoft accounts and were permanently locked out of their user profile due to a PIN issue. Oftentimes it would prompt them to download something from the Microsoft Store which, surprise surprise, isn't accessible without signing into the system. What's worse is that most of them knew their appropriate PIN and even their password and we simply could not regain access to their system. Startup repair, CMD commands, resetting your Microsoft account password online, none of them worked. They had to launch a Linux Live Environment from a USB drive to move their important files over to a backup drive and just perform a clean installation. Fuck Microsoft Accounts. Their benefits are trivial, they farm your data, and lock people out of their systems. It's such a load of horseshit.
There's a program I use called PCunlocker. It's a password reset tool that will allow you to convert a Microsoft account to a local account offline from a USB drive. It's a retail program but it's worth every penny.
I knew the answer had to have something to do with preventing Windows from, 'phoning home.' Every other OS previous to this from Windows XP onwards tried the same thing at some point during the set-up procedure. Being able to skip parts of the set-up, or to, 'do it later', was the usual get around, but now they're being not so much insistent on creating a Microsoft account, but coercive to the point where it won't let you continue set-up unless you fill in the desired screens with an e-mail address, the best way has to be to fool the system into thinking that your assumed internet connection is on the fritz whilst it tries to, 'phone home', thus forcing it to skip onto the next part of set-up.
In my experience there is no need to disconnect the network, although it does work that way too. When asked for email address I enter USERNAME and for password I enter PASSWORD. I then get a prompt , "OOPS! Something went wrong!..." and it gives me the "Who's using this computer prompt" and creates a local account.
so this is why I can skip out of needing a Microsoft Account to use my computer with windows 11 without this trick cause it's a windows 11 home edition problem and I have been using pro for windows 10 and now 11 so that's why I can still skip that shit easily who cares if I don't need pro it works just fine without the home limitations and I don't like being told I need home now I know why cause then I don't need a Microsoft Account at all
I use this method as well, I have installed Windows 11 on multiple computers (both Home + Pro) and it is the easiest way to do it, no need to have the hassle of messing with the internet. (great video though, I am sure a LOT of people learned something new presented in an easy to learn way)
@@peircedan make a virus that infects windows master image files in such a way that disables the microsoft account thing from the install some how problem solved
I wish they would do this for various video games publishers, make it against the law for them to force you to make an account on some other bullshit website of theirs oh, I'm talking about Rockstar EA Games, Ubisoft. There are just too many of them out there that do this shit. I don't want to use their goddamn launcher, I like using the launcher I use with no bulshit attached. This is the number one reason why I won't touch any EA Games or even Rockstar Games, if somebody cracks these games, I support that because the bulshit they add on top of these games it's just too far
Except they don't .. not defending Microsoft .. like Google, they bug the shit out of me. But you have never been required to sign into an account. You just have to have a handful of braincells to rub together and look into the other options when you fire up your new computer.
@@5226-p1e Start electing people who are against vaccine mandates, extreme disinfectant measures, etc. These are the people who are into this kind of thing.They want a world where capitalism and free markets reign supreme.
@@Yatukih_001 I think you might have the capitalism part backwards, because there are plenty of capitalists out there who absolutely are against the vaccines and the mandates, an example is libertarians are in many ways capitalist, but they strive for limited government. and if there was limited government, there would be limited government overreach such as this going on. so capitalism isn't necessarily evil, it's being used as evil, however it is being used as evil in this circumstance. Just like technology is not evil, it's how one uses it which which can be used to make it evil. I hope you understand.
Pro Tip: You don’t have to Create / Format the Partitions. Once you delete all the partitions, you can just hit next on the unallocated drive. It automatically creates those partitions during setup.
It's been this way for eons. I think it might've changed back in the 90's even, when I worked as a PC tech. Can't remember for sure, but certainly a long time ago.
@@whitepawrolls While setting up Windows 11 there is a way to get to the task manager and stop the task making you use an account. I will have to give it a try if I install Windows 11
@@charleshines1553Personally I have not installed windows 11 yet except in a hyper-v vm, and will not put it on any of my machines until forced to, and even then I only use pro versions so no need for the work around. That however was not the focus of this particular thread. It was on him pre partitioning and formatting the drive when you don't need to on typical machines causing an extra step that may confuse some people coming here for this solution.
Linux Pop OS is pretty good...When Mint still recognised my networkadapter, it was also pretty awesome to use. In short, there's alternatives. The anger you described with MS spying and pushing their crap on people, is what drove me to Linux and I'll never go back if the Gods will it. No idea why TH-cam keeps offering me Windows videos.
@InSomnia DrEvil what is "more advanced software"? In these days you can play most of the games on linux due of the maturity of wine. You can run also photoshop and microsoft office. but in my opinion microsoft office has lost a lot of ground in comparision with libreOffice and OnlyOffice. But I dont want to even try to convince people on the internet since I have no chance. I only want to state the fact, that even as advanced and pro user one can easily use linux for every task (if someone can not, it means he is no advanced/pro user). The marketshare of linux is below 2% but still it has several "more advanced" programs for each task you can possible imagine, which can only mean, that in absolute numbers there is a vivid and competent community which offers a private and open source alternative to apple and microsoft.
@@bojaidin if you dont have patience to understand your system, you are right. if you have a technical background/interest you can do more with linux than with windows. In this case your statement is wrong
@@rp-rh8pb Linux will always be less efficient to use for anyone doing anything other than web surfing. Most people don't want to spend hours with workaround for basic software and sometimes hardware to work. This is how it's been forever, and how it always will be. Linux will always be a hobby and nothing more.
I miss the Windows 7 days man. I never got to experience Windows XP too much (only a couple years which I hardly remember) but I straight up grew up with Windows 7. Its welcoming feel, awesome wallpapers, calming sound effects and free offline games made Windows 7 so special and the best part was that you really didn't have to do much to use it, you didn't need an account. Once again, I really miss Windows 7. Microsoft is just so controlling now.
I still use windows 7, I just turned off all the extraneous stuff. It still works fine, though i had an almighty battle keeping it from auto-upgraging to 10. But if I ever need to upgrade, it'll be to Linux.
@@renomtv Windows 7 is fine. But they have stopped (pretty much everyone) making device drivers for new hardware. It is harder and harder to install. I just use VMware. Windows XP is still the best-looking version of Windows, in my opinion. Plus had some amazing screen savers and themes. M$ still has it under wraps though, as XP is still used in commercial apps and POS.
Better solution: Install anything other than W11, or even W10 and stop letting these cyberbullies try to control you. The first time you had W10 force installed in the middle of the night, candy crush reinstalled after a windows update, or had other packages uninstalled automagically by our benefactors in Redmond, it should have been a wakeup call that they believe your machine is theirs to do with as they please and that nothing on that operating system is safe, local account or not. Vote with your feet.
we're talking over 30 years of momentum. its hard to make the shift. i've tried linux multiple times but keep coming back because of comfort. i think windows 10 might be my last though. still havent registered the version im using.
That was my wake-up call back in 2015. Win10 didn't like two programs on my computer and uninstalled them ... with zero input from me! I installed GNU/Linux that day. There was a learning curve, but within a couple of months I was no longer booting windows, after a year without booting up Windows I deleted it from my HDD.
@@rayh493 I'm done with it for +10 years. The real awareness of a problem comes when you notice that a PC only needs a kernel with human I/O support. The rest is a joke. Only 0,1% of a installed Windows system is actually related to the functioning of the hardware. This is all a OS has to do. Anything further than that can be done by programs.
Totally agree... after the W10 installed itself, I got rid of it and installed Linux Mint. Never looked back... and will never buy anything Microsoft or Gates.
@@maxg4958 The frustration still exists regarding my phone. Android is basically the same. Users being locked in a world of software. I can be hacked, but I don't have ownership permissions on the system, so I can't see that.
It applies to open source too, albeit more subtly. There is a reason why Google, Oracle, Microsoft, etc. "contribute" so much to open source projects, and it isn't for your benefit.
@@MrEdrftgyuji Big tech can't and shouldn't be trusted, but that doesn't mean nobody should ever work with them. If something's open source and big tech tries to put anything people don't like into the code, someone else can just fork it and strip out all the garbage again. Big tech money isn't bad or dirty by default. The code base for what has become the DirectX alternative Vulcan was basically donated by AMD (or was it still ATI then?). Big tech can contribute funds, man hours and know-how that can advance a project by decades in just a year or two. They can be an invaluable asset, but EVERYONE needs to constantly keep an eye on them to act in good faith and in our interest, same as with any business partner. The problem is that the normies using 99% proprietary products only care about price and convenience, not freedom, ownership, being treated faily, privacy,... I could go on. This current hell is of our own making.
> We need to be pushing politicians for anti data collection laws. Politicians are basically people who work under the label of 'government', yeah? And, CIA, NSA, FBI, etc., are part of that 'government' label, yeah? You can add 1 and 1, yeah?
Laws are created for the benefit of these multi-trillion dollar tech corporations, not for the benefit of people. Tech giants bribed all politicians from any party just to greenlight what tech giants do. You think you can vote out multi-trillion dollar corporations who own the government??
Its getting to the point where a generation does not remember the egalitarian origins of computers and the internet. Now, there is an insidious and creeping intention of control within the system.
I'm so fucking upset about it. I was born after the 80's and believe me I _remember._ And people seem to not get how, during _my_ generation, tech used to be far less about stupid UI and terrible bugs and anti-consumer nonsense. And you could actually get chronological social media feeds without being forced to see a "popular sorting" one. There are so many bootlickers under this video, too. Good comments by good people have hundreds of bootlickers in their replies.
I'm so glad I dumped Windows. I got tired of Microsoft forcing Edge and their other ideas that THEY think is best for the user. Linux gave me my freedom back on my computers. I've been using Pop!_OS since March of last year. Microsoft can go to hell with their predatory tactics,
Why do you think people rejected the Covid Jabs ? Bill Gates is the biggest financer of WHO. No way i'll get fucked by a guy who fabricated viruses to force people buying an anti-virus.
Except the next large update for windows 11 professional require you to be connected to the internet 24/7 and a microsoft account the beta trial version of the update went out to testers
So people using their Windows 11 professional laptop whilst travelling must always have an internet connection? This is going to be popular with business customers
Just came here to say, I enjoyed the humor of the "Subscribe" animation showing up when you are talking about how you don't want an MSFT subscription (right around 0:30).
Thanks for this. I haven't messed with 11 yet. I like the way you think regarding preparing a computer for the user. For those that don't know, Windows 11 will not work on older computers. I have some systems that are 7 years old and they work perfectly fine with 10, a Samsung SSD, and 8 gig RAM. However, the processor compatibility test for 11 fails. We have to replace every computer in the facility before Windows 10 EOL in October 2025. Excuse me while I put my tinfoil hat on, but I suspect there are nefarious features in 11 that require different hardware. I wish I could jettison Windows completely.
I did a video recently where I show how to install Windows 11 on anything. I also just finished filming a video that hasn't even easier way of doing it that should be released in a few weeks.
Pro tip, you can just delete all the partitions and hit Next right on the raw disk. Windows will just create the partitions it needs and move on. No real point for anything between 3:52 and 4:10
Why do you have the ethernet in on installation anyway?, I always install with no internet and then do updates after installation and setup is complete. This stops any unwanted changes happening on install via updates.
@@davless152000 Download it and create a USB of it and keep it rather than downloading the newest version,. Always install from that to begin with (without internet) and do updates after you've set it up as a local account.
Windows 11 no longer gives you the option to bypass without having to plug the ethernet cord. Although he doesn't need do all this the bypass is fairly simple. However without an ethernet connection you can't set up a local account. If you set it up with wifi you are screwed unless you are willing to shut off your router. What he did was correct by leaving the ethernet cord plugged in. He doesn't need to add a name to the pc, he can just press skip, then windows is going go download additional updated drivers, once it asks for a microsoft account just unplug the ethernet cord, press the back button, and it'll let you set up a local account.
@@FunNFury exactly. I have 3 computers that have no internet access because I use them solely for entertainment like movies etc. None of them have caused me any problems since I set them up around 2007. Those that do give me problems are the computers that have internet connections and keep doing updates without my knowledge. Even though all my computers have autoupdate disabled. Companies have become to reliant on people just doing as told then, getting distracted by the latest lazy option for entertainment. That way nothing changes, and people willfully remain dumb.
It was one of my major beefs with MS. I hated having to setup accounts especially when the person that will be using the computer is not there. I want a simple clean install and I will add what I want. This is why my personal box is Linux.
Hey Microsoft, incase you read this comment section, good luck selling Windows 11 home in countries with very poor Internet coverage. Not everyone using windows has access to the Internet to create a Microsoft account. In areas without Internet coverage most people use their Windows computers for offline work like typing documents etc. Anyway, I guess you can afford to give away that market share to Linux. Just don't come complaining when that happens. Just a word of advice. Cheers.
For many in the poor countries, PCs are more readily available and cheaper. Macs are a luxury item. True Microsoft is making it more complicated to even use their own OS.
@@joeybloey3631 Hey, don't get me wrong, I love windows. Its my favourite operating system. Its just my opinion that its best they don't force all users of Windows 11 home to have Microsoft accounts because some countries just don't have good Internet coverage yet. They may end up losing some market share to their competition.
I was doing a new install the other day and this is exactly how I got around it. So as of last weekend, it was working. Microsoft fucking sucks for pulling this crap in my opinion. I do the same kind of building and setups that you do. I set them up, bring them to the customer and they don't have to fuss much, just get to start using it.
Perhaps I'm missing something but I installed Windows 11 twice as a local user without having to disconnect the internet. They removed that function from Windows 10, at least for me.
As a windows enjoyer, the more microsoft does this. the more convinced I am that getting a dual-boot with linux as an alternate operating system is actually a good idea, might as well get used to linux before I have to switch.
I actually switched to Linux a few months ago because my PC won't be compatible with Windows 11, but it still runs great, and I still want security updates for my OS. I figured I'd pull the trigger sooner rather than later. It's a learning curve for sure, but man, there are a lot of niceties. Linux has come a long way, and I don't bother to dual boot (though if you play a lot of games, you sure want to).
Won't be long that you realize you got all you need in Linux. Can recommend linux mint. Install super easy, nvidia card works, printer setup flawless. I even remote desktop into a windows VM at work with freerdp. No need for TeamViewer and supports multimonitor, printer redirecting, sound redirecting, it even mounts my home folder as a network drive in windows. 2 years now and regular updates. No problem ever in 2 years. Speaks for itself .
Pro Tip: Make your boot SSD partition a rounded down hundred. 200 (250gb). 400 (500GB), 800 (1TB). That leaves enough overprovision to stop the awful WA slowdowns from 20H2 on, but also stops all the Update Brickings, in every version of 10/11 on OEM's, as long as you leave ~2GB unpartitioned gap directly after C: so it can make its growing mutant boot partitions in the gap, but also move all the partitions after that forward so the final zone is unpartitioned emptiness.
A little something to note: when performing a clean install you don't need to manually create partitions and formatting them. Just delete all the existing ones and hit install directly. It'll automatically create all the partitions and format them. Saves you a few clicks and a few seconds of your time every time you perform an install.
@@bounderchris I haven't had many issues ether. However, it only takes a few times having to reload Windows before you take a couple extra seconds to create partitions. 🤣😂
The other way to do it is to create an autounattend.xml fil to put on the install USB drive. The bonus to this method is that Windows can be configured to install without having to choose a single option during installation.
Setting up my SP8 I got stuck at that part where it wanted my email to setup an account and I didn’t want to do that. I just wanted to have a local account. Your video was very helpful. Man I was plugging my WiFi in then out 😆 but it worked. Thank you sir.
i agree dude, i miss the days when the OS was just the software that created the environment to run programs in. now the user is just a process in it's environment, and it needs your information to authenticate your activity.
Thank you for still fighting the good fight :) At some point, I decided that it's just easier to use an account, since Microsoft made it so incredibly difficult to not use it at every step. And soon after that, I tested Linux, and was compelled to switch over to it after using it for a while - it's just better.
Honestly the first and most important step was to just set up dual booting or a dedicated system to Linux (not WSL) using a popular distribution (e.g. Mint OS), with some determination to try to use it for a week instead of Windows. Probably the only thing to know is software installation process - it's different in Linux. To see if you're up for it, a 5 minute test is to search for "how to install VLC on Mint" and see if the results make sense to you. If you like that, then most likely you'll be fine!
3:51 You do not need to do anything after clearing the partitions, if you just select the unpartitioned, unformatted drive windows and "Next" windows will do everything else you did automatically.
if people said "no" and left windows 10 at 3% adoption rates Microsoft would have been FORCED to take a step back. instead they shurgged it off as "not that bad" now M$ft know they can go as oppressive as they want because people will rather be done dirty and stick with what they know then dip their toes in strange clean linux waters. (or even stick with an older version of windows)
At Vista , Win8 and Win10 I tried, I always found Linux always seemed to have problems running whatever I had in my PC particularly wifi as I remember, so I would wait or cope and stay MS. Even when using as a NAS. I have my WIN10 machines tied down and will certainly manage without Win11 till 2024+. If it gets really irritating I may have another go at a Linux distro.
people were leaving their computers running only to find windows forcefully updating to windows 10, they were hyper aggressive about making sure they padded the adoption numbers
I flat out refuse to upgrade to Windows 11 because of this and the TPM 2.0 requirements that obsoletes perfectly usable hardware because microsoft gets more money from the OEM's when people buy new machines.
I'm a minecraft player of over 10 years but am now locked out of the game unless I hand my computer over to the all mighty Microsoft Account. And they keep claiming the account migration is for player convenience...
Window dressing (no pun intended) at its best for sure. Unfortunately this strategy seems to work quite well, because there are tons of other folks who are going to fall for it.
As someone who switched to Linux Mint in 2006 I give a great sigh of relief on seeing the shenanigans (and time) I've saved. Do yourselves a favour and make the jump. The only thing I can't do on my Linux box is update my satnav, which is ironic considering they use Linux systems. If you just run a simple office or home computer, do yourself a good turn and try Linux.
I've been thinking about making the jump. What resources do you use to learn about how to use Linux? Whats a good anti virus to use with Linux? The most complete (simple and effective) distribution that someone who's come to use web browser for research and plays games can use? Please just point me in a direction. I don't want to loose my $4500 PC and $2000 laptop by screwing g with these things without knowing what I'm doing
I originally tried a number of distributions with different desktop systems but ended up with Mint. That's the fun of Linux, so much choice! You don't need antivirus on Linux but you can run CLAM on files to protect Microsoft users. Linux is based upon Unix which was first developed for networking and has security built into it. You can run really old computers on Linux as the system isn't so resources hungry as Windows.
Another work around is if your upgrading from windows 10 and you already have a local account it will use that as well. You can always install 10 even without a license key create a local account and do the upgrade and then enter your proper license for your windows 11 then.
My issue with the whole "Microsoft Account" thing is that they make it overly confusing and unintuitive. This may not apply to the general consumer, but I have a Microsoft Partner account, as well as a home account for licensing some personal usage of Microsoft Office. So, whenever I'm prompted to login to Microsoft, it asks if it is a personal or business account and I have no idea what I have used for what. Then I find I have an account that I can't recall the password for, so I use their 'forgot password' link to recover it, but I then get a message that my administrator hasn't setup my account/company for password recovery/reset, yet I am the administrator.
Yes, and you have to manipulate in very weird ways the configs for making it work properly. The option with the oldest interfaces are the ones that really make something
"I solved data theft" -is on Google -is on TH-cam -let me guess, facebook/Twitter? -own a debit/credit card? Those get hacked all the time I could stretch that list forever, basically I'm saying congratulations, you took a cup of water out of the ocean
I also found a work around for this, little bit longer of a process, but I installed windows 10 home with a local account and used the upgrade to windows 11 and it worked fine
I love how the people at Microsoft think that they have come up with the ultimate lock down, only to have some unknown soul come up with the work around. 😁😁😁😁
When I setup computers for customers, I use a generic Microsoft account to initially set up the device, then I add a user with the option " I don't have the persons Microsoft account information", make the account the administrator, log out of the Microsoft account, sign into the new local account then delete the Microsoft account.
This video is awesome. Last year, I had a huge problem with my laptop. For some reason, it would not connect to the wifi despite all attempts to fix this issue, even going into bios. I even tried connecting it to the internet using an ethernet but that didn't work either. Eventually, I was able to boot windows through safe mode. It brought me to the login screen and asked for my password. But because I had a microsoft account and I could not connect to the Internet, windows could not verify that my password was correct. I then had to factory reset my laptop.
if the issue ever happens again, you'll need to know where your temp folder is and delete the contents within it(make a backup of the folder just in case). You'll also need to make sure that your computer has the "error reporting" service and its functions active(for whatever stupid reason, windows does EVERYTHING through the error reporting service/function and when you get disconnected or reboot your device, this will prevent it from accessing wifi passwords. Some other solutions include "forgetting" a network and attempting to reconnect; or resetting your router while the computer is turned off, then boot up and attempt to connect
Factory reset was not necessary, I had this problem, abruptly after update, win10 login on my Microsoft account, perpetually locked, and login impossible, and automatically you can login on your local account as administrator, simply by starting your computer without any internet connection. Many advices are wrong, like factory reseet that I have never made !
@@jeanredera6411 well apparently they reintroduced the same bug. I had it a few months after release and at some point they issued an update to windows 10 because people no longer had the issue. To the average user, if that computer is your only device, this bug bricks it. I only know workarounds because it's so easy to BREAK windows 10, heck, Epic Games did it by having a ton of their games contain spyware: Red Shell , each running as an independent and constant process that needed internet...
The Microsoft account does have one use - license recovery under certain circumstances. However, I'm with you - I generally don't want Microsoft nagging me to use their account. It's why I changed to linux recently for most things I'm doing.
They've made license recovery a nightmare and since it's now hardware specific, why bother anymore. The whole TPM 2.0 measure is there so people are more inclined to just go buy another machine rather than deal with Microsoft's asininities. You're up in the night if you think it's truly some security measure. Hey, laptops are only $200 bucks now in Windows S Mode, right? That's what MS is selling you, since you know, Apple has its flock that throws down ~$3000 without flinching for their computers
I bought a new computer recently with Windows 11 and the set up process had me swearing up a storm. I was so pissed off at all the shit they were trying to force me to do.
Linux is the answer. I choose Linux path 7 years ago, since then no Windows. Fun fact: When I started new job, they had windows on their pc's. After 10 minutes my boss told me to shut the f... up as I was swearing - "What the f... is this s..." - turned out, it was windows 10.
First time on the channel: Nice perspective. I didn't even know that a Microsoft Account was necessary for Win 11 Home. Thanks for the tip. . I am trying to push my clients from Windows to Linux after being a pure Micro$oft professional for 35 years as MCSE NT, 2000, 2003. I think others should think about shifting away as well FOSS is improving.
There are A LOT of people who need to know this information. But I think you can go through the entire initial setup process without ever having plugged in the ethernet cable. Perhaps it's different on W-11, but that works flawlessly on W-10. And honestly, I can't think of a reason why anyone would want W-11, at least until they work some of the bugs out of it. W-10 is superior for now.
Yeah that's how I've installed W10 home for years. I never connect to internet until after the install is done. Then I do Windows Updates. Glad to hear that still works.
Windows 10 lets you say "I don't have internet," but if you do that on Windows 11, it complains that internet is required for setup. There are several workarounds, though, include hitting Shift-F10 at the account setup screen to get a command prompt. Even if they patch all those workarounds, should still be able to create a local account in Windows after the fact and then delete the Microsoft connected one afterwards.
I'm so glad that on Linux you aren't forced for these accounts! btw, you are aware that you don't "need" to create partition or format? after you deleted everything, just click next! It will do the partitions and formatting all by itself
Another way to easily connect and disconnect your internet connection is to tether to a cell phone, and then turn the hotspot on and off, assuming you have a cell phone plan with tethering capability. Also, this keeps Windows from knowing the wifi network you plan to use long term until the point when you want it to know that information. (Not sure if this has been mentioned. I didn't read all 2000 comments. Cheers.)
Yes, that is a great idea. It has been mentioned a few times but I wish I would have thought of it when I made the video. I'm working on a sequel to this video right now that will have a bunch of different ways to do this and some of them are WAY easier.
You can still convert a Microsoft account to a local account even with Windows 11 home. They just force you to create a Microsoft account when you're installing it unless you use this workaround.
@@CyberCPU Didn't have that problem personally. The guy at the store just rushed through the setup of the laptop with no internet and it created a local account with no problem. Of course I had to go back and uncheck all the privacy stuff that he left checked, but it was still a local account.
@Bravo Six Just because a person uses Linux doesn't mean they're not open to the prospect of switching back. It's good to be informed of what's happening regarding Windows, since we're no longer using it daily. Nothing I have seen regarding Windows has done anything except validate my decision to move to Linux, but it's still good to be in the loop, because maybe that will change. I doubt it, but it's possible.
local account should be the default... i use nothing from the microsoft store, always bugs me to know its there with services in the background that do nothing i consented to
I am unable to sign out of my Microsoft account on windows 10 (signed in once to download something from the Microsoft store), it looks like Microsoft removed the ability to SIGN OUT in the past few years. Is there a workaround?
Hi, a more straightforward workaround even if you have the internet connected to your PC, during Win11 setup, just put the letter g both times when asked for your Microsoft account and password. It'll say "something went wrong, or oops!" You can easily continue making a local account. Hope this helps! Also, would love to know what desk you have! Thanks.
Sad side of this is, people let corporations to include things like this. If no one say ' stop ', it will be only worse overtime. This really needs justice. Imagine average human having time to dig and avoid every useless stuff they throw at people. Im lucky bcs my current job doesnt force to use windows or mac. Seriously, i know not everyone CAN to reject antiuser OS, apps etc. People dont care, something works and they dont even stand or think about direction of this.
I love how 11 home turns on bitlocker as default even when you trick the system and setup a local account. My trick is to just alt+f4 on the wireless connection screen (don’t hook up ethernet) or open task manager during out of box experience and there’s some kind of network stack service you can kill to get you into a Local account.
@@UltraCasualPenguin I admit I don't know much about Bitlocker, other than that it's used to encrypt filesystems. What I do know is that it's very confusing and that Windows itself doesn't help with that confusion, reporting that Bitlocker is enabled on both my Windows Pro desktop and my Windows Home laptop, when it most certainly isn't. Can you perhaps help with understanding this, please?
@@johnm2012 Thank you for proving my point. The fact that you claim "it's clearly not encrypted" proves that you don't know what it is and how it works.
Great video, thank you for this. Do you happen to know the work around Microsoft products such as office specifically? I have purchased Microsoft office a few years back. I need office for work (specifically word, excel, and power point). Is there a way to utilize these apps without being tracked by Microsoft?
For those already with Windows 11 set up and don't want the online account and sign in requirements, you can go into setting and there is an option to switch to a local account
Yes, but by that point any data that was already in the online account is already in Microsofts hands, which is kinda the point in creating as to why we instead create local accounts from the start.
Pro Tip: Stop giving your business to companies that abuse you. Just STOP it! If the sheeple grew a backbone and demanded better of people they do business with even if it means doing without for a while the world would be a better place.
@@ebinrock I hear you... I spent 7 years working as a sysadmin for a medium sized company with ~60 desktop systems and 3 servers running Windows. 95% of them just needed browser, spreadsheets, and word processing and would have been much more secure under Linux... but I could not get the company to make the change. Trying to keep all those systems patched and secure against malware was a total nightmare! We finally got hit by a zero-day ransomware via a drive by attack from an employee that was browsing where they shouldn't have been. If I hadn't have had nightly backups for everything the company would have been sending $50K in bitcoin to some creeps. We were down for a day and then back up, and the CEO was then willing to consider Linux for most systems. Unfortunately, I left before any actual decision was made.
@@ebinrock I've been full time Linux since 2007 (Feisty Fawn) and before that Debian. I gave up on windows after Win 2K. I initially missed MediaStudio Pro but ULead got sold not long after that and split MSP up as individual packages anyway (Money Grabbing). These days KdenLive works just as well and Blender, Gimp, FreeCAD & various 3D printer software all work on Linux (Where they were probably developed on first)
4:40 - you are welcome. Also a much easier way. At the select you wifi or internet screen. 1. shift-F10 2. At cmd prompt type: oobe\bypassnro 3. After reboot follow the setup and when you get to the internet screen you will now have the option "I don't have internet" 4. Next screen select "continue with limited setup". 5. Enter desired username. Continue with setup.
Hi Rich! I am a new sub and I am really enjoying this channel... May I ask how I can request a video on a particular topic? I am trying to find a simple solution that would probably benefit many of your viewers.
What does "Go the way of Apple" mean? Seems like it would be a good thing. Apple market cap: $2.7 trillion Microsoft market cap: $2.0 trillion And you _can_ use Linux w/o accessing the cli, though many find the cli to be much more efficient
@@nathanaelculver5308 in the past 10 years, I've never used Ubuntu or Debian without having to rely on the CLI to update or install something at some point.
@@iviaverick52 Coincidentally, as I read your post I logged into my Kubuntu machine and was immediately notified of available updates. Click the notification, click "Update all" and done, no command line necessary. I don’t know what you mean by "at some point", so I can’t speak to that.
This is just ridiculous. I installed Windows 10 to my mother some years ago and she is on a metered internet connection. Windows 10 totally ate up all her data during the random and often updates. After several tries to hinder it from updating GB of data and having to buy extra data at premium prices I gave up and installed Linux Mint for her. After that I never get any "support" calls anymore. It just works and I install updates when I am at home. Have worked beautifully for several years now. After that I said to myself that I will use Linux on my next main computer, even though I am a gamer. I will only have Windows on a laptop because some banking software is not supported in Linux.
@@CyberCPU Yes, I tried that but some updates were apparently "critical" so the data was suddenly gone anyway. As I said I gave up and I found a much better alternative.
There is a way of setting up your internet connection on your PC to metered account and then you dont get all the updates. Ive had mine set on this for years. Every so often I go in and update when I WANT TO, not when MS says I must. I dont have a metered connection but got sick of waiting ages for my computer to load updates every time I switched it on. It seemed there was an update every day!
@@CyberCPU It does NOT solve the issue. My connection is always set to metered and Windows keeps downloading GBs of stuff in the background, even if I just completed a full windows update to the latest version. It happened to me when I was on holiday. PC was literally fully updated the same day I left home. Get to holiday home, connect phone as router, 1 hour later all my 3 GBs of monthly data on the phone were vanished. And I hardly used the internet.
@@charginginprogresss on a metered connection Windows will only download critical updates. You likely have something else running in the background using data.
I am considered a senior now in IT. Microsoft certs all around. I can’t wait till I finally retire in the next yr. MS and the others are getting way to embedded into the lives of users. I am amazed it’s legal…think about that for a second huh? All the hoops, and holes for them to spy on you, and the OS is still incredibly insecure. Don’t even think for a second that MS server software is any different. Sure there are no online accounts, but everything else is pack into it. This is a disgusting monetary practice.
Windows is generally more secure then Linux own MacOS. it's only more secure then linux because 99% of linux installs are out of date and broken in some way, outside the obvious "unhardened" versions of it.
Excellent job. I personally never use the home edition, as the Pro edition has more support for networking & definitely easier to create a local account.
I would recommend anyone who doesn't have an ethernet port to just buy an adapter. It is fairly cheap and the set up doesn't always give you an icon that you have a connection. This is what I use to set up laptops for my job, much easier to just plug and unplug like in this video!
True. I have a USB C ethernet adapter I use in my shop that I plug into a C to A adapter. I originally got it so I could transfer videos from my phone over ethernet instead of Wi-Fi. It works very well for stuff like this.
The way to describe wired vs. wifi to honest non-computer people when you're setting up their computer, (not whiny people who don't like wires), is that it's better to have a wired connection than to "spray your data 30 feet in every direction". Works every time. Later you can be more specific. I have seen people with wifi printers, etc. RIGHT NEXT to their router.
MS Account = spyware, pure and simple. The latest example of MS making life difficult for users who just want to install an OS, have it be reliable, and work.
I desperately long for the internet where you didn’t have to make an account to use even the most basic services. I’m so tired of having to throw my information out into the void for something that took 3 clicks to accomplish when I was a teenager
@@socialite1283 After which it will still work just as well as it did on October 14, which is good enough for me. I don't care if it never gets updated after that, it does everything I need now. There are still millions of people happily using Windows XP eight years after Microsoft stopped supporting it.
@@douglasburnsideThat's fine if your computer will never connect to the network. Otherwise your computer is a risk for other people if security flaws are unaddressed.
@@douglasburnside XP is great for legacy software, but not much new software will work or work properly. It also isn't a good idea to connect that PC to a network or even go online because it will be easily owned by someone within a short time.
These are stopgap measures. Microsoft will force these things on you later whether you want it or not. They will close allof these workarounds. Just start moving to Linux, adapt your workflows and switch to software alternatives (like Proton for gaming...etc). This is perfectly viable for many-many Windows users.
It's perfectly viable for maybe 1-2% of computer users. At a full time technician I can tell you without a doubt that the vast majority of users will never use Linux and shouldn't.
I feel ya dude. I don't want an ANYTHING account but you gotta come up with a new screen name and 24 character password that is at least half numbers, punctuation and emojis just to wipe your butt these days.
I've watched so many of these videos now about how you shouldn't have a Microsoft account to use your computer because mining of data. What I have never seen is anybody explain exactly what data they collect and more importantly why that's a bad thing and how it actually affects anybody. I'm also fairly certain that anybody who uses Google, Apple, insert other vendor here etc. is also open to the same data mining, but hey let's just beat on Microsoft because it's perceived that somehow it's different. There are literally millions of people using all these services and guess what, I don't hear many of them complaining about how it's ruined their lives.
you should leave your front door unlocked and open all the time then since privacy doesn't matter, after all people can listen in on you in public so why not let people in your house whenever they want?
For those of you who still want to use an M$ account, this is still important as it allows you to perform the *VITAL* step of creating a 'Setup' account that has admin privileges and regular user accounts for everyone else. Why? Mainly to make it harder for the clueless to install malware/etc. if they don't know the Setup password. I've done this with every computer I've set up since Vista days. (I also have a pair of scripts to install Chocolatey + basic apps and keep them updated.)
who would set up your pc with malware, a repair shop? You must be referring to the user being exposed to malware by accident, i assume. Now im curious, because i always have two accounts on my p.c., and all i need is my main account.
@@Catinthehackmatrix By accident, sheer cluelessness, an unpatched security hole, or someone else using the account that decides to install 'this really cool app/game because you really should see it'. (I once had a client call me up who was furious because 'the anti-malware that I had installed was now reporting hundreds of problems and hounding her for money to solve them when I had told her that her computer was safe and the app was free'. When I went over there, I was able to prove that her brother had removed it and installed something else that had almost the same name, but was 'better', according to him. She insisted on paying the full amount for my visit because she was going to get him to pay for it. She also would NEVER allow him to use her computer ever again. :grin: )
Interesting work around! I also noticed with Windows 11 PRO it does give you the option to create a local account on this set up screen. However Windows 11 Home does not offer that option. Once windows installed, you can convert the account to a LOCAL account and then manage it as a local account like normal. Other work arounds When creating a new user with Windows 11 HOME (post install), it forces the Microsoft Account. The work around is to right click My PC, then Manage, then users, create a new user the manual way (not through control panel users). You need to use Computer Management Users.
It amazes me how much people cling to Windows even though Microsoft strips their users of their rights and control with every version, Windows 10 was a privacy nightmare. Most non-IT people just need the web browser, some creativity apps and Steam. Which all work perfectly fine on the user-friendly Linux distros. A lot of people agree to Microsoft's abuse instead of trying something new, exciting and empowering.
Swore by Apple all my life, had one taste of android, and immediately left that flaming trash heap. Swore by windows my entire life, I've used Linux once before but hated it, honestly, it's looking quite a bit more appetizing the more and more this continues.
User friendly Linux… That is the most laughable sentence Ive seen. I shouldnt have to google how to install an application and then have it fail because it has some stupid dependency in a github repo that hasnt been maintained in 4 years. Linux is fine if you NEVER UPDATE ANYTHING. I use Debian daily at work and I have a love-hate relationship with Linux. Ive never bricked a Windows desktop with an update. Ive never locked out all of the accounts with a broken update with a cyclic dependency failure. I literally had to reinstall the OS to get it working again.
Already in the process of switching to Linux. I'm done with Microsoft. They're obviously not going to stop when it comes to Telemetry and Data Collection for their own profits so I'm making the switch to what computing was always meant to be IMO.
I ditched microsoft in 2008, and went with linux. Couldn't be happier. I even forced my parents in law into linux, and they haven't complained. I only use microsoft when I have no other alternative. The users must be in full control and linux is the way. And as of today, linux distros are beginner friendly, so people don't really have any excuses.
@@CyberCPU I absolutely agree! That's why I still use windows when linux can't do what I want. But linux doesn't require any personal data. I hate it when apps and other stuff ask for unnecesary data and permisions to do their stuff. Great channel, keep up the work!
People don’t have any excuse? There’s like countless reasons why linux isn’t a fit for most people, nor do people even want to use it. There’s plenty of excuse for not using linux, like wanting to play games, every once in a while.. online, with buddies..
Ive got the home, and disable edge, webview and never open a MS account. It CRIPPLES our pc. I will not allow tracking, it screws it up. And I have an oshutup.
We shouldn't have to do any workarounds to create a local account. a "local account" is the very definition of a PC (Personal Computer), and this is unacceptable for anyone that understands tech or has half a brain. A lot of people seem to be so ant-privacy that I think they would actually stick a sensor up their own ass if Microsoft told them to. Companies forcing the "Everything is a Service" philosophy is wrong. If I pay for something, it's mine and I'll use it as I please!
No! you will do as your surpreme leader "Microsoft" says...lol
Let me guess you use phone that can only call, receive a call and send SMS.
Talk about they want everything, Went to set up dads new laptop for him and he uses onedrive witch i despise of before moving any photos over to the new drive i created an folder then went to the settings to turn off sync well do you think it was as easy as that yeah na they doing anything they can to get all of ya data that rightly belngs to you yet they making more and more sneaky ways to prevent you from not share with them, without removing OD altogether
At the very least, Give me the option. Real clear, (option A) or (option B). No crazy "hidden" way to mess it up. And for people who do things without looking. It needs to default to a (Personal Computer) (private), setting. If you want to be part of the "collective", it needs special attention to alter those settings.
It's never really been that way as much as people think it should be. Hell, if you bought a music CD you are assuming a state of limited licensing. In their eyes, you don't really own it. Same with Nintendo and their brigade against Blockbusters of the world in the 90s and purchasing their games used.
I hate Microsoft...so controlling. When you purchase a product it should ALWAYS be up to the user whether he/she wants an account or not, without having to resort to workaround tactics. It's always seems to be a Microsoft v us situation, and that's not right.
Why don't you complain about Google because you also pay along with the price of phone for Google services they require you to have Google account and spy on you and you like hate Microsoft only don't you see apple also does the same with apple id on Macs
Google doesn't require a Google account to use Android.
@@CyberCPU
But becuase most ppl use play store where its required an Google account so for now they dont need to put such requirement yet
Microsoft store however , not even to this day most ppl do not use that thing
Microsoft rly tries to make like a centralized OS like how Android is where you pretty much end up downloading everything from their store, sure on Android you can download stuff from whatever you please but most dont do that unless its piracy or videogame cheats/hacks
@Angir Gie Those functions are Google services. That's the difference.
@@CyberCPU Just curious, as you will know on 8.1 you can swipe from right to left with the mouse and you get a big time of day sign accross the screen unlike 10 that could not. Is 11 the same?
Each version removes more and more control from the users, and pushes us to the bad old days of timeshare mainframe computing (what they call "cloud" these days), and more invasion of privacy.
That's the way it's going. Eventually you will buy the hardware and have to lease everything else, your hardware is effectively useless without third party contracts. The 'ownership' of a product is actually a scam, it forces you into the system that they control. Some cars force you into a deal to access all the features of the car.
@@grahamwinston3692 Its terrible, and whats scarier is that most people just don't care.
Or we could end up in the days of not even owning the hardware like phones used to be.
I can see the ads now:
'You can buy your own hardware buy why go through all that trouble?! Just lease from us (Microsoft) and you can have the best hardware sent to you an a tri-yearly basis and, as an extra bonus, we will boost your modem, memory, storage, and CPU speeds. Unlike what you get when you make a self-built system!'
@@grahamwinston3692 Then just don't buy it and let it sit on the shelf. When the masses quit buying the products and they have millions to billions of units sitting on shelves and can't move them... Then the loss becomes theirs not ours.
@@skilz8098 This almost never works, particularly for products deemed "essential" to the average home. Your normal, everyday consumer doesn't care about what's happening because they need that MSOffice application and Excel spreadsheet for their job, or they need that internet for whatever else they're using a PC for. The steps they take to get there are inconsequential to them.
That's what happens when things become mainstream and companies want you locked in to a ton of services as a life-time open wallet. Mainstream folks don't care about anything other than getting the box that does the thing.
As a tech support specialist, I will say I've had to help dozens of customers who used Microsoft accounts and were permanently locked out of their user profile due to a PIN issue. Oftentimes it would prompt them to download something from the Microsoft Store which, surprise surprise, isn't accessible without signing into the system. What's worse is that most of them knew their appropriate PIN and even their password and we simply could not regain access to their system.
Startup repair, CMD commands, resetting your Microsoft account password online, none of them worked. They had to launch a Linux Live Environment from a USB drive to move their important files over to a backup drive and just perform a clean installation.
Fuck Microsoft Accounts. Their benefits are trivial, they farm your data, and lock people out of their systems. It's such a load of horseshit.
There's a program I use called PCunlocker. It's a password reset tool that will allow you to convert a Microsoft account to a local account offline from a USB drive. It's a retail program but it's worth every penny.
@@CyberCPU Yoooooo, I'm going to have to look into that, thanks!
I knew the answer had to have something to do with preventing Windows from, 'phoning home.' Every other OS previous to this from Windows XP onwards tried the same thing at some point during the set-up procedure. Being able to skip parts of the set-up, or to, 'do it later', was the usual get around, but now they're being not so much insistent on creating a Microsoft account, but coercive to the point where it won't let you continue set-up unless you fill in the desired screens with an e-mail address, the best way has to be to fool the system into thinking that your assumed internet connection is on the fritz whilst it tries to, 'phone home', thus forcing it to skip onto the next part of set-up.
In my experience there is no need to disconnect the network, although it does work that way too. When asked for email address I enter USERNAME and for password I enter PASSWORD. I then get a prompt , "OOPS! Something went wrong!..." and it gives me the "Who's using this computer prompt" and creates a local account.
so this is why I can skip out of needing a Microsoft Account to use my computer with windows 11 without this trick cause it's a windows 11 home edition problem and I have been using pro for windows 10 and now 11 so that's why I can still skip that shit easily who cares if I don't need pro it works just fine without the home limitations and I don't like being told I need home now I know why cause then I don't need a Microsoft Account at all
I use this method as well, I have installed Windows 11 on multiple computers (both Home + Pro) and it is the easiest way to do it, no need to have the hassle of messing with the internet. (great video though, I am sure a LOT of people learned something new presented in an easy to learn way)
Worked for me! Thanks 😁
Just wondering what made you think this would work? It sounds like it is just a bug.
@@peircedan make a virus that infects windows master image files in such a way that disables the microsoft account thing from the install some how problem solved
We need a law passed that would penalize Microsoft if they forced you to create an account. Where can I sign a petition?
I wish they would do this for various video games publishers, make it against the law for them to force you to make an account on some other bullshit website of theirs oh, I'm talking about Rockstar EA Games, Ubisoft. There are just too many of them out there that do this shit. I don't want to use their goddamn launcher, I like using the launcher I use with no bulshit attached. This is the number one reason why I won't touch any EA Games or even Rockstar Games, if somebody cracks these games, I support that because the bulshit they add on top of these games it's just too far
i would immediately sign Need Gamers Nexus the TH-camr to Help us like when he meet it with the Big Wiggs Of Newegg and fixing the Return Policy
Except they don't .. not defending Microsoft .. like Google, they bug the shit out of me. But you have never been required to sign into an account. You just have to have a handful of braincells to rub together and look into the other options when you fire up your new computer.
@@5226-p1e Start electing people who are against vaccine mandates, extreme disinfectant measures, etc. These are the people who are into this kind of thing.They want a world where capitalism and free markets reign supreme.
@@Yatukih_001
I think you might have the capitalism part backwards, because there are plenty of capitalists out there who absolutely are against the vaccines and the mandates, an example is libertarians are in many ways capitalist, but they strive for limited government.
and if there was limited government, there would be limited government overreach such as this going on.
so capitalism isn't necessarily evil, it's being used as evil, however it is being used as evil in this circumstance.
Just like technology is not evil, it's how one uses it which which can be used to make it evil.
I hope you understand.
Pro Tip: You don’t have to Create / Format the Partitions. Once you delete all the partitions, you can just hit next on the unallocated drive. It automatically creates those partitions during setup.
I found that with WIndows 10 too, just let it handle all of that.
It's been this way for eons. I think it might've changed back in the 90's even, when I worked as a PC tech. Can't remember for sure, but certainly a long time ago.
I've been using this method for years every since I started with windows 7 :)
@@whitepawrolls While setting up Windows 11 there is a way to get to the task manager and stop the task making you use an account. I will have to give it a try if I install Windows 11
@@charleshines1553Personally I have not installed windows 11 yet except in a hyper-v vm, and will not put it on any of my machines until forced to, and even then I only use pro versions so no need for the work around. That however was not the focus of this particular thread. It was on him pre partitioning and formatting the drive when you don't need to on typical machines causing an extra step that may confuse some people coming here for this solution.
Linux Pop OS is pretty good...When Mint still recognised my networkadapter, it was also pretty awesome to use. In short, there's alternatives. The anger you described with MS spying and pushing their crap on people, is what drove me to Linux and I'll never go back if the Gods will it. No idea why TH-cam keeps offering me Windows videos.
Linux is good for web surfing
... thats about it
@InSomnia DrEvil what is "more advanced software"? In these days you can play most of the games on linux due of the maturity of wine. You can run also photoshop and microsoft office. but in my opinion microsoft office has lost a lot of ground in comparision with libreOffice and OnlyOffice. But I dont want to even try to convince people on the internet since I have no chance. I only want to state the fact, that even as advanced and pro user one can easily use linux for every task (if someone can not, it means he is no advanced/pro user). The marketshare of linux is below 2% but still it has several "more advanced" programs for each task you can possible imagine, which can only mean, that in absolute numbers there is a vivid and competent community which offers a private and open source alternative to apple and microsoft.
@@bojaidin if you dont have patience to understand your system, you are right. if you have a technical background/interest you can do more with linux than with windows. In this case your statement is wrong
@@rp-rh8pb Linux will always be less efficient to use for anyone doing anything other than web surfing. Most people don't want to spend hours with workaround for basic software and sometimes hardware to work. This is how it's been forever, and how it always will be.
Linux will always be a hobby and nothing more.
@@bojaidin for these people there is flatpak and snap
I miss the Windows 7 days man. I never got to experience Windows XP too much (only a couple years which I hardly remember) but I straight up grew up with Windows 7. Its welcoming feel, awesome wallpapers, calming sound effects and free offline games made Windows 7 so special and the best part was that you really didn't have to do much to use it, you didn't need an account.
Once again, I really miss Windows 7. Microsoft is just so controlling now.
I still use windows 7, I just turned off all the extraneous stuff. It still works fine, though i had an almighty battle keeping it from auto-upgraging to 10. But if I ever need to upgrade, it'll be to Linux.
@@flatulent-1 I wanna keep using win7 but the programmers kept warning about the security risks involved. Are you using your pc for main stuff
@@renomtv Windows 7 is fine. But they have stopped (pretty much everyone) making device drivers for new hardware. It is harder and harder to install. I just use VMware. Windows XP is still the best-looking version of Windows, in my opinion. Plus had some amazing screen savers and themes. M$ still has it under wraps though, as XP is still used in commercial apps and POS.
If only Microsoft fixed their bug ridden OS with the efficiency that they want to steal data.
Better solution: Install anything other than W11, or even W10 and stop letting these cyberbullies try to control you. The first time you had W10 force installed in the middle of the night, candy crush reinstalled after a windows update, or had other packages uninstalled automagically by our benefactors in Redmond, it should have been a wakeup call that they believe your machine is theirs to do with as they please and that nothing on that operating system is safe, local account or not. Vote with your feet.
we're talking over 30 years of momentum. its hard to make the shift. i've tried linux multiple times but keep coming back because of comfort. i think windows 10 might be my last though. still havent registered the version im using.
That was my wake-up call back in 2015. Win10 didn't like two programs on my computer and uninstalled them ... with zero input from me! I installed GNU/Linux that day. There was a learning curve, but within a couple of months I was no longer booting windows, after a year without booting up Windows I deleted it from my HDD.
@@rayh493 I'm done with it for +10 years. The real awareness of a problem comes when you notice that a PC only needs a kernel with human I/O support. The rest is a joke. Only 0,1% of a installed Windows system is actually related to the functioning of the hardware. This is all a OS has to do. Anything further than that can be done by programs.
Totally agree... after the W10 installed itself, I got rid of it and installed Linux Mint. Never looked back... and will never buy anything Microsoft or Gates.
@@maxg4958 The frustration still exists regarding my phone. Android is basically the same. Users being locked in a world of software. I can be hacked, but I don't have ownership permissions on the system, so I can't see that.
Always remember kids: If something's free or VERY cheap and not open source, you will still be paying for it one way or another.
If something is free, you are the product.
It applies to open source too, albeit more subtly. There is a reason why Google, Oracle, Microsoft, etc. "contribute" so much to open source projects, and it isn't for your benefit.
@@MrEdrftgyuji Big tech can't and shouldn't be trusted, but that doesn't mean nobody should ever work with them.
If something's open source and big tech tries to put anything people don't like into the code, someone else can just fork it and strip out all the garbage again.
Big tech money isn't bad or dirty by default. The code base for what has become the DirectX alternative Vulcan was basically donated by AMD (or was it still ATI then?).
Big tech can contribute funds, man hours and know-how that can advance a project by decades in just a year or two.
They can be an invaluable asset, but EVERYONE needs to constantly keep an eye on them to act in good faith and in our interest, same as with any business partner. The problem is that the normies using 99% proprietary products only care about price and convenience, not freedom, ownership, being treated faily, privacy,... I could go on. This current hell is of our own making.
It's not cheap at all though, Windows 11 Home costs $110.
I just wish someone would create windows that can run everything without bugs (no fuck linux).
We need to be pushing politicians for anti data collection laws. Make data harvesting totally illegal. This sort of stuff needs to end.
> We need to be pushing politicians for anti data collection laws.
Politicians are basically people who work under the label of 'government', yeah?
And, CIA, NSA, FBI, etc., are part of that 'government' label, yeah?
You can add 1 and 1, yeah?
Laws are created for the benefit of these multi-trillion dollar tech corporations, not for the benefit of people. Tech giants bribed all politicians from any party just to greenlight what tech giants do.
You think you can vote out multi-trillion dollar corporations who own the government??
Its getting to the point where a generation does not remember the egalitarian origins of computers and the internet. Now, there is an insidious and creeping intention of control within the system.
Happen, deep down, as it ever really was.
I'm so fucking upset about it. I was born after the 80's and believe me I _remember._ And people seem to not get how, during _my_ generation, tech used to be far less about stupid UI and terrible bugs and anti-consumer nonsense. And you could actually get chronological social media feeds without being forced to see a "popular sorting" one. There are so many bootlickers under this video, too. Good comments by good people have hundreds of bootlickers in their replies.
I'm so glad I dumped Windows. I got tired of Microsoft forcing Edge and their other ideas that THEY think is best for the user.
Linux gave me my freedom back on my computers. I've been using Pop!_OS since March of last year.
Microsoft can go to hell with their predatory tactics,
Linux is awesome! I've had a dedicated Linux gaming tower since 2018. _It doesn't even have a Windows partition._
Gave up after winME. Don't regret it at all. System76 box with PopOs ftw
@@devsecfranklin you've been using Linux since 2000? Noice
@@StaceyAyodele in y2k I tried red hat and open bsd for a bit. In the 90s I used Slackware. 🤓
Why do you think people rejected the Covid Jabs ? Bill Gates is the biggest financer of WHO. No way i'll get fucked by a guy who fabricated viruses to force people buying an anti-virus.
Except the next large update for windows 11 professional require you to be connected to the internet 24/7 and a microsoft account the beta trial version of the update went out to testers
yup
I wonder what will happen to people with local accounts.
So people using their Windows 11 professional laptop whilst travelling must always have an internet connection? This is going to be popular with business customers
This brings back fond memories... I miss trying to trick Microsoft products into becoming usable...
Haha, no you don't 🙂
Just came here to say, I enjoyed the humor of the "Subscribe" animation showing up when you are talking about how you don't want an MSFT subscription (right around 0:30).
Thanks for this. I haven't messed with 11 yet. I like the way you think regarding preparing a computer for the user. For those that don't know, Windows 11 will not work on older computers. I have some systems that are 7 years old and they work perfectly fine with 10, a Samsung SSD, and 8 gig RAM. However, the processor compatibility test for 11 fails. We have to replace every computer in the facility before Windows 10 EOL in October 2025. Excuse me while I put my tinfoil hat on, but I suspect there are nefarious features in 11 that require different hardware. I wish I could jettison Windows completely.
I did a video recently where I show how to install Windows 11 on anything. I also just finished filming a video that hasn't even easier way of doing it that should be released in a few weeks.
Thank you. I'll check that out.
Just came across this. Yep! th-cam.com/video/LcafzHL8iBQ/w-d-xo.html
For me, Win10 will be my last Windows. I see no need for Win11 or 12 or whatever name that decide to use.
@@valkyriefrost5301 until they stop supporting it
I remember a few decades back actually liking Microsoft .. the times they sure have a changed
Microsoft is coming back
@@DanielAnderssson Haven't liked them at all since the launch of windows 10. Still using Windows 7 on my Intel 12900k
Windows 2000 was their peak. Its been downhill ever since, growing more bloated and more user-hostile along the way.
@@gariannobinger9933 I think XP was probably the best of everything although 2000 was very clean.
@@davidpompili7593 Once you' ve perfected the operating system what do you do next?
Pro tip, you can just delete all the partitions and hit Next right on the raw disk.
Windows will just create the partitions it needs and move on. No real point for anything between 3:52 and 4:10
Why do you have the ethernet in on installation anyway?, I always install with no internet and then do updates after installation and setup is complete. This stops any unwanted changes happening on install via updates.
Windows 11 might be the first windows where you need a internet connection required
@@davless152000 Download it and create a USB of it and keep it rather than downloading the newest version,. Always install from that to begin with (without internet) and do updates after you've set it up as a local account.
Windows 11 no longer gives you the option to bypass without having to plug the ethernet cord. Although he doesn't need do all this the bypass is fairly simple. However without an ethernet connection you can't set up a local account. If you set it up with wifi you are screwed unless you are willing to shut off your router. What he did was correct by leaving the ethernet cord plugged in. He doesn't need to add a name to the pc, he can just press skip, then windows is going go download additional updated drivers, once it asks for a microsoft account just unplug the ethernet cord, press the back button, and it'll let you set up a local account.
I have completely stopped updates, their updates break my system and drain battery...
@@FunNFury exactly. I have 3 computers that have no internet access because I use them solely for entertainment like movies etc.
None of them have caused me any problems since I set them up around 2007.
Those that do give me problems are the computers that have internet connections and keep doing updates without my knowledge.
Even though all my computers have autoupdate disabled.
Companies have become to reliant on people just doing as told then, getting distracted by the latest lazy option for entertainment.
That way nothing changes, and people willfully remain dumb.
The one dead giveaway for me that Microsoft was unethical was claiming that a web browser was part of the operating system.
It was one of my major beefs with MS. I hated having to setup accounts especially when the person that will be using the computer is not there. I want a simple clean install and I will add what I want. This is why my personal box is Linux.
I like the fact that you made your video title just about the exact search a lot of people will use to figure out how to skip it.
Hey Microsoft, incase you read this comment section, good luck selling Windows 11 home in countries with very poor Internet coverage. Not everyone using windows has access to the Internet to create a Microsoft account. In areas without Internet coverage most people use their Windows computers for offline work like typing documents etc. Anyway, I guess you can afford to give away that market share to Linux. Just don't come complaining when that happens. Just a word of advice. Cheers.
For many in the poor countries, PCs are more readily available and cheaper. Macs are a luxury item. True Microsoft is making it more complicated to even use their own OS.
Don't worry. Gill Bates said he was going to take care of the poor countries remote high population problems by vacc1n8ing them.🙄
@@jater10 macs are pretty high in price. They aren't even an option for the majority
They have Windows for those countries, don't worry. They're not stupid.
@@joeybloey3631 Hey, don't get me wrong, I love windows. Its my favourite operating system. Its just my opinion that its best they don't force all users of Windows 11 home to have Microsoft accounts because some countries just don't have good Internet coverage yet. They may end up losing some market share to their competition.
I was doing a new install the other day and this is exactly how I got around it. So as of last weekend, it was working. Microsoft fucking sucks for pulling this crap in my opinion. I do the same kind of building and setups that you do. I set them up, bring them to the customer and they don't have to fuss much, just get to start using it.
Microsoft wants all laptops from 2023 that will run Windows 11 to have a web camera. Next thing the PC won't boot with the camera covered.
Perhaps I'm missing something but I installed Windows 11 twice as a local user without having to disconnect the internet. They removed that function from Windows 10, at least for me.
@@kaptaintorrent2155 Windows 11 Pro or Home? Pro gives you the choice for a local account while Home doesn't (at least from what I see in the videos).
@@Hardcore_Remixer Ahh... I see. Yeah, I have Pro Edition.
Gates is a demon.
As a windows enjoyer, the more microsoft does this. the more convinced I am that getting a dual-boot with linux as an alternate operating system is actually a good idea, might as well get used to linux before I have to switch.
I actually switched to Linux a few months ago because my PC won't be compatible with Windows 11, but it still runs great, and I still want security updates for my OS. I figured I'd pull the trigger sooner rather than later. It's a learning curve for sure, but man, there are a lot of niceties. Linux has come a long way, and I don't bother to dual boot (though if you play a lot of games, you sure want to).
Won't be long that you realize you got all you need in Linux. Can recommend linux mint. Install super easy, nvidia card works, printer setup flawless. I even remote desktop into a windows VM at work with freerdp. No need for TeamViewer and supports multimonitor, printer redirecting, sound redirecting, it even mounts my home folder as a network drive in windows. 2 years now and regular updates. No problem ever in 2 years. Speaks for itself .
Thank you! Just had to do this on a new Windows 11 computer I'm setting up for a customer. It still works!
Pro Tip: Make your boot SSD partition a rounded down hundred. 200 (250gb). 400 (500GB), 800 (1TB). That leaves enough overprovision to stop the awful WA slowdowns from 20H2 on, but also stops all the Update Brickings, in every version of 10/11 on OEM's, as long as you leave ~2GB unpartitioned gap directly after C: so it can make its growing mutant boot partitions in the gap, but also move all the partitions after that forward so the final zone is unpartitioned emptiness.
D: Gah how can they still be screwing up partitions this badly. I thought the whole new not-MBR would help prevent this crap.
200GB of wasted space for 1TB drive is meh... 5% overprovision is more than enough.
Why would you need to do this? I don't get what problem it solves. Can you explain this or point me to some resource that explains it? Thanks!
Yes, because the people at Microsoft can't do anything other than basic base ten mathematics.
A little something to note: when performing a clean install you don't need to manually create partitions and formatting them. Just delete all the existing ones and hit install directly. It'll automatically create all the partitions and format them. Saves you a few clicks and a few seconds of your time every time you perform an install.
I've had issues in the past doing it that way so now I am just in the habit of setting up and formatting the partitions.
@@CyberCPU really? I own a shop too and have not had many issues there
@@bounderchris I haven't had many issues ether. However, it only takes a few times having to reload Windows before you take a couple extra seconds to create partitions. 🤣😂
The other way to do it is to create an autounattend.xml fil to put on the install USB drive. The bonus to this method is that Windows can be configured to install without having to choose a single option during installation.
I do this and alot of installs, it's a game changer
Setting up my SP8 I got stuck at that part where it wanted my email to setup an account and I didn’t want to do that. I just wanted to have a local account. Your video was very helpful.
Man I was plugging my WiFi in then out 😆 but it worked. Thank you sir.
Subbed cause of the title.
I don't apply for jobs that need a profile. Why would i want google spying on me
i agree dude, i miss the days when the OS was just the software that created the environment to run programs in. now the user is just a process in it's environment, and it needs your information to authenticate your activity.
Thank you for still fighting the good fight :)
At some point, I decided that it's just easier to use an account, since Microsoft made it so incredibly difficult to not use it at every step.
And soon after that, I tested Linux, and was compelled to switch over to it after using it for a while - it's just better.
How would you recommend someone get started using Linux? What resources did you use to start learning linix?
Honestly the first and most important step was to just set up dual booting or a dedicated system to Linux (not WSL) using a popular distribution (e.g. Mint OS), with some determination to try to use it for a week instead of Windows.
Probably the only thing to know is software installation process - it's different in Linux.
To see if you're up for it, a 5 minute test is to search for "how to install VLC on Mint" and see if the results make sense to you. If you like that, then most likely you'll be fine!
All of this just to install Windows. *Heavy Sigh* I love how they fix things that ain't broken
Sadly to them not using a M$ account was a bug that needed fixing. Such bs
I've also noticed that with each release of Windows, all the useful settings are buried one level deeper.
Rich, your videos are well thought out and contain great info. I think I've found my favorite "Tech Guy." Yea, I subscribed and clicked the bell!
3:51 You do not need to do anything after clearing the partitions, if you just select the unpartitioned, unformatted drive windows and "Next" windows will do everything else you did automatically.
Good for you. A MS account should be optional, there are reasons why I don't want a linked account.
if people said "no" and left windows 10 at 3% adoption rates Microsoft would have been FORCED to take a step back. instead they shurgged it off as "not that bad" now M$ft know they can go as oppressive as they want because people will rather be done dirty and stick with what they know then dip their toes in strange clean linux waters. (or even stick with an older version of windows)
The last one is actually what most schools seem to do. Not XP, but most (keyword *most) computer there still run 7.
Some schools still run xp. Mine did. Along side windows 7
@@lampmunchertv3861 My school seems to still run Windows 7.
At Vista , Win8 and Win10 I tried, I always found Linux always seemed to have problems running whatever I had in my PC particularly wifi as I remember, so I would wait or cope and stay MS. Even when using as a NAS. I have my WIN10 machines tied down and will certainly manage without Win11 till 2024+. If it gets really irritating I may have another go at a Linux distro.
people were leaving their computers running only to find windows forcefully updating to windows 10, they were hyper aggressive about making sure they padded the adoption numbers
I flat out refuse to upgrade to Windows 11 because of this and the TPM 2.0 requirements that obsoletes perfectly usable hardware because microsoft gets more money from the OEM's when people buy new machines.
It works without TPM 2.0. It just means some of the features requiring it won't work.
I'm a minecraft player of over 10 years but am now locked out of the game unless I hand my computer over to the all mighty Microsoft Account.
And they keep claiming the account migration is for player convenience...
They probably learned that from banks...
Window dressing (no pun intended) at its best for sure. Unfortunately this strategy seems to work quite well, because there are tons of other folks who are going to fall for it.
As someone who switched to Linux Mint in 2006 I give a great sigh of relief on seeing the shenanigans (and time) I've saved. Do yourselves a favour and make the jump. The only thing I can't do on my Linux box is update my satnav, which is ironic considering they use Linux systems. If you just run a simple office or home computer, do yourself a good turn and try Linux.
Agree!
I´m a filthy pirate, i don´t care about microsoft accounts.🤗
I've been thinking about making the jump. What resources do you use to learn about how to use Linux? Whats a good anti virus to use with Linux? The most complete (simple and effective) distribution that someone who's come to use web browser for research and plays games can use?
Please just point me in a direction. I don't want to loose my $4500 PC and $2000 laptop by screwing g with these things without knowing what I'm doing
@@FreelanceDev4life I've installed Zorin twice next to windows without any trouble.
I originally tried a number of distributions with different desktop systems but ended up with Mint. That's the fun of Linux, so much choice! You don't need antivirus on Linux but you can run CLAM on files to protect Microsoft users. Linux is based upon Unix which was first developed for networking and has security built into it. You can run really old computers on Linux as the system isn't so resources hungry as Windows.
Another work around is if your upgrading from windows 10 and you already have a local account it will use that as well. You can always install 10 even without a license key create a local account and do the upgrade and then enter your proper license for your windows 11 then.
Good to know, thanks.
My issue with the whole "Microsoft Account" thing is that they make it overly confusing and unintuitive. This may not apply to the general consumer, but I have a Microsoft Partner account, as well as a home account for licensing some personal usage of Microsoft Office. So, whenever I'm prompted to login to Microsoft, it asks if it is a personal or business account and I have no idea what I have used for what. Then I find I have an account that I can't recall the password for, so I use their 'forgot password' link to recover it, but I then get a message that my administrator hasn't setup my account/company for password recovery/reset, yet I am the administrator.
Exactly! A company with billions of dollars can't create a more intuitive way of accessing your account.
Yes, and you have to manipulate in very weird ways the configs for making it work properly.
The option with the oldest interfaces are the ones that really make something
I solved the data theft problem years ago when I went full Linux... I love it, never will go back...
So why are you using TH-cam? Thanks for your info. Every phone you use, every website you use, I'll be watching you.
"I solved data theft"
-is on Google
-is on TH-cam
-let me guess, facebook/Twitter?
-own a debit/credit card? Those get hacked all the time
I could stretch that list forever, basically I'm saying congratulations, you took a cup of water out of the ocean
I also found a work around for this, little bit longer of a process, but I installed windows 10 home with a local account and used the upgrade to windows 11 and it worked fine
Yes, that will work too.
I love how the people at Microsoft think that they have come up with the ultimate lock down, only to have some unknown soul come up with the work around. 😁😁😁😁
When I setup computers for customers, I use a generic Microsoft account to initially set up the device, then I add a user with the option " I don't have the persons Microsoft account information", make the account the administrator, log out of the Microsoft account, sign into the new local account then delete the Microsoft account.
Yes, I assume Microsoft is going to reimburse me the amount of time it takes me to do that every time I setup Windows 11? 😂🤣😂🤣
This video is awesome. Last year, I had a huge problem with my laptop. For some reason, it would not connect to the wifi despite all attempts to fix this issue, even going into bios. I even tried connecting it to the internet using an ethernet but that didn't work either. Eventually, I was able to boot windows through safe mode. It brought me to the login screen and asked for my password. But because I had a microsoft account and I could not connect to the Internet, windows could not verify that my password was correct. I then had to factory reset my laptop.
if the issue ever happens again, you'll need to know where your temp folder is and delete the contents within it(make a backup of the folder just in case). You'll also need to make sure that your computer has the "error reporting" service and its functions active(for whatever stupid reason, windows does EVERYTHING through the error reporting service/function and when you get disconnected or reboot your device, this will prevent it from accessing wifi passwords. Some other solutions include "forgetting" a network and attempting to reconnect; or resetting your router while the computer is turned off, then boot up and attempt to connect
Factory reset was not necessary, I had this problem, abruptly after update, win10 login on my Microsoft account, perpetually locked, and login impossible, and automatically you can login on your local account as administrator, simply by starting your computer without any internet connection.
Many advices are wrong, like factory reseet that I have never made !
@@jeanredera6411 well apparently they reintroduced the same bug. I had it a few months after release and at some point they issued an update to windows 10 because people no longer had the issue. To the average user, if that computer is your only device, this bug bricks it. I only know workarounds because it's so easy to BREAK windows 10, heck, Epic Games did it by having a ton of their games contain spyware: Red Shell , each running as an independent and constant process that needed internet...
The Microsoft account does have one use - license recovery under certain circumstances. However, I'm with you - I generally don't want Microsoft nagging me to use their account. It's why I changed to linux recently for most things I'm doing.
They've made license recovery a nightmare and since it's now hardware specific, why bother anymore. The whole TPM 2.0 measure is there so people are more inclined to just go buy another machine rather than deal with Microsoft's asininities. You're up in the night if you think it's truly some security measure. Hey, laptops are only $200 bucks now in Windows S Mode, right? That's what MS is selling you, since you know, Apple has its flock that throws down ~$3000 without flinching for their computers
I bought a new computer recently with Windows 11 and the set up process had me swearing up a storm. I was so pissed off at all the shit they were trying to force me to do.
Hopefully my video helped.
Linux is the answer.
I choose Linux path 7 years ago, since then no Windows. Fun fact: When I started new job, they had windows on their pc's. After 10 minutes my boss told me to shut the f... up as I was swearing - "What the f... is this s..." - turned out, it was windows 10.
First time on the channel: Nice perspective. I didn't even know that a Microsoft Account was necessary for Win 11 Home. Thanks for the tip. . I am trying to push my clients from Windows to Linux after being a pure Micro$oft professional for 35 years as MCSE NT, 2000, 2003. I think others should think about shifting away as well FOSS is improving.
If Linux was single distro, had a better filesystem, didn't need command line for everything and was reliable I would move.
There are A LOT of people who need to know this information. But I think you can go through the entire initial setup process without ever having plugged in the ethernet cable. Perhaps it's different on W-11, but that works flawlessly on W-10. And honestly, I can't think of a reason why anyone would want W-11, at least until they work some of the bugs out of it. W-10 is superior for now.
Yeah that's how I've installed W10 home for years. I never connect to internet until after the install is done. Then I do Windows Updates. Glad to hear that still works.
Windows 10 lets you say "I don't have internet," but if you do that on Windows 11, it complains that internet is required for setup.
There are several workarounds, though, include hitting Shift-F10 at the account setup screen to get a command prompt.
Even if they patch all those workarounds, should still be able to create a local account in Windows after the fact and then delete the Microsoft connected one afterwards.
Thank you. I will for sure try this on firing up a new computer I got when I get the chance!
Let me know how it works out.
Your pfp fits with your comment, I like it.
I'm so glad that on Linux you aren't forced for these accounts!
btw, you are aware that you don't "need" to create partition or format? after you deleted everything, just click next!
It will do the partitions and formatting all by itself
Another way to easily connect and disconnect your internet connection is to tether to a cell phone, and then turn the hotspot on and off, assuming you have a cell phone plan with tethering capability. Also, this keeps Windows from knowing the wifi network you plan to use long term until the point when you want it to know that information.
(Not sure if this has been mentioned. I didn't read all 2000 comments. Cheers.)
Yes, that is a great idea. It has been mentioned a few times but I wish I would have thought of it when I made the video. I'm working on a sequel to this video right now that will have a bunch of different ways to do this and some of them are WAY easier.
Another banger video! I am too late for this but for the future (if this isn’t patched) I am going to definitely use this!! Thx again Rich!
You can still convert a Microsoft account to a local account even with Windows 11 home. They just force you to create a Microsoft account when you're installing it unless you use this workaround.
@@CyberCPU Didn't have that problem personally. The guy at the store just rushed through the setup of the laptop with no internet and it created a local account with no problem. Of course I had to go back and uncheck all the privacy stuff that he left checked, but it was still a local account.
Another reason why I'm happy I switched to Linux.
Very happy with Manjaro so far 😁👍
@Bravo Six Just because a person uses Linux doesn't mean they're not open to the prospect of switching back. It's good to be informed of what's happening regarding Windows, since we're no longer using it daily.
Nothing I have seen regarding Windows has done anything except validate my decision to move to Linux, but it's still good to be in the loop, because maybe that will change. I doubt it, but it's possible.
local account should be the default... i use nothing from the microsoft store, always bugs me to know its there with services in the background that do nothing i consented to
I am unable to sign out of my Microsoft account on windows 10 (signed in once to download something from the Microsoft store), it looks like Microsoft removed the ability to SIGN OUT in the past few years. Is there a workaround?
Hi, a more straightforward workaround even if you have the internet connected to your PC, during Win11 setup, just put the letter g both times when asked for your Microsoft account and password. It'll say "something went wrong, or oops!" You can easily continue making a local account. Hope this helps! Also, would love to know what desk you have! Thanks.
I still have win10, which was announced as the last version. After listening to your video I decided to keep it as long as it's possible. Thank you.
Sad side of this is, people let corporations to include things like this. If no one say ' stop ', it will be only worse overtime. This really needs justice. Imagine average human having time to dig and avoid every useless stuff they throw at people. Im lucky bcs my current job doesnt force to use windows or mac.
Seriously, i know not everyone CAN to reject antiuser OS, apps etc.
People dont care, something works and they dont even stand or think about direction of this.
I love how 11 home turns on bitlocker as default even when you trick the system and setup a local account.
My trick is to just alt+f4 on the wireless connection screen (don’t hook up ethernet) or open task manager during out of box experience and there’s some kind of network stack service you can kill to get you into a Local account.
I thought that the Home edition didn't support bitlocker. Am I confusing it with something else?
Weird that someone who is extremely paranoid and wants to keep all data private doesn't know what Bitlocker is.
@@UltraCasualPenguin I admit I don't know much about Bitlocker, other than that it's used to encrypt filesystems. What I do know is that it's very confusing and that Windows itself doesn't help with that confusion, reporting that Bitlocker is enabled on both my Windows Pro desktop and my Windows Home laptop, when it most certainly isn't. Can you perhaps help with understanding this, please?
@@johnm2012 Thank you for proving my point. The fact that you claim "it's clearly not encrypted" proves that you don't know what it is and how it works.
@@UltraCasualPenguin So please explain.
Great video, thank you for this. Do you happen to know the work around Microsoft products such as office specifically? I have purchased Microsoft office a few years back. I need office for work (specifically word, excel, and power point). Is there a way to utilize these apps without being tracked by Microsoft?
For those already with Windows 11 set up and don't want the online account and sign in requirements, you can go into setting and there is an option to switch to a local account
Yes, but by that point any data that was already in the online account is already in Microsofts hands, which is kinda the point in creating as to why we instead create local accounts from the start.
No doubt PRO over Home is the way to go. I do the sane setup for my IT clients too.
I use Professional version of Windows since NT5 (Windows XP).
I should hope so.
What's the main difference?
Pro Tip: Stop giving your business to companies that abuse you. Just STOP it! If the sheeple grew a backbone and demanded better of people they do business with even if it means doing without for a while the world would be a better place.
Unfortunately for my job I need Windows, and I telework often. When I retire and hopefully no longer need Windows, Office, Adobe, etc., I'll go Linux.
@@ebinrock I hear you... I spent 7 years working as a sysadmin for a medium sized company with ~60 desktop systems and 3 servers running Windows. 95% of them just needed browser, spreadsheets, and word processing and would have been much more secure under Linux... but I could not get the company to make the change. Trying to keep all those systems patched and secure against malware was a total nightmare! We finally got hit by a zero-day ransomware via a drive by attack from an employee that was browsing where they shouldn't have been. If I hadn't have had nightly backups for everything the company would have been sending $50K in bitcoin to some creeps. We were down for a day and then back up, and the CEO was then willing to consider Linux for most systems. Unfortunately, I left before any actual decision was made.
@@ebinrock
I've been full time Linux since 2007 (Feisty Fawn) and before that Debian.
I gave up on windows after Win 2K. I initially missed MediaStudio Pro but ULead got sold not long after that and split MSP up as individual packages anyway (Money Grabbing).
These days KdenLive works just as well and Blender, Gimp, FreeCAD & various 3D printer software all work on Linux (Where they were probably developed on first)
And one reason, I am upgrading to Linux.
Thank you Microsoft.
Do it you cannot go wrong. Just make sure you use kernel 2.6 or earlier.
I did 10yrs ago n never looked back.
4:40 - you are welcome. Also a much easier way. At the select you wifi or internet screen.
1. shift-F10
2. At cmd prompt type: oobe\bypassnro
3. After reboot follow the setup and when you get to the internet screen you will now have the option "I don't have internet"
4. Next screen select "continue with limited setup".
5. Enter desired username.
Continue with setup.
Hi Rich! I am a new sub and I am really enjoying this channel... May I ask how I can request a video on a particular topic? I am trying to find a simple solution that would probably benefit many of your viewers.
I really wish Linux would get more traction and function properly without having to use the CLI. Microsoft is going the way of Apple at this point.
so sad :(, Microsoft just doesnt understant that PCers want a PC and not a giant tablet.
What does "Go the way of Apple" mean? Seems like it would be a good thing.
Apple market cap: $2.7 trillion
Microsoft market cap: $2.0 trillion
And you _can_ use Linux w/o accessing the cli, though many find the cli to be much more efficient
@@nathanaelculver5308 in the past 10 years, I've never used Ubuntu or Debian without having to rely on the CLI to update or install something at some point.
@@iviaverick52 Coincidentally, as I read your post I logged into my Kubuntu machine and was immediately notified of available updates. Click the notification, click "Update all" and done, no command line necessary.
I don’t know what you mean by "at some point", so I can’t speak to that.
Linux went from unusable to acceptable in last decades. Windows went from good to acceptable. I hope that trend will continue that way.
This is just ridiculous. I installed Windows 10 to my mother some years ago and she is on a metered internet connection. Windows 10 totally ate up all her data during the random and often updates. After several tries to hinder it from updating GB of data and having to buy extra data at premium prices I gave up and installed Linux Mint for her. After that I never get any "support" calls anymore. It just works and I install updates when I am at home. Have worked beautifully for several years now.
After that I said to myself that I will use Linux on my next main computer, even though I am a gamer. I will only have Windows on a laptop because some banking software is not supported in Linux.
I had that issue with lots of clients. If you set the ethernet connection to metered service it solves the problem.
@@CyberCPU Yes, I tried that but some updates were apparently "critical" so the data was suddenly gone anyway. As I said I gave up and I found a much better alternative.
There is a way of setting up your internet connection on your PC to metered account and then you dont get all the updates. Ive had mine set on this for years. Every so often I go in and update when I WANT TO, not when MS says I must. I dont have a metered connection but got sick of waiting ages for my computer to load updates every time I switched it on. It seemed there was an update every day!
@@CyberCPU It does NOT solve the issue.
My connection is always set to metered and Windows keeps downloading GBs of stuff in the background, even if I just completed a full windows update to the latest version.
It happened to me when I was on holiday. PC was literally fully updated the same day I left home.
Get to holiday home, connect phone as router, 1 hour later all my 3 GBs of monthly data on the phone were vanished. And I hardly used the internet.
@@charginginprogresss on a metered connection Windows will only download critical updates. You likely have something else running in the background using data.
I am considered a senior now in IT. Microsoft certs all around. I can’t wait till I finally retire in the next yr. MS and the others are getting way to embedded into the lives of users. I am amazed it’s legal…think about that for a second huh?
All the hoops, and holes for them to spy on you, and the OS is still incredibly insecure. Don’t even think for a second that MS server software is any different. Sure there are no online accounts, but everything else is pack into it.
This is a disgusting monetary practice.
And now it continues with Win11 Pro. MSFT is disgusting.
Windows is generally more secure then Linux own MacOS. it's only more secure then linux because 99% of linux installs are out of date and broken in some way, outside the obvious "unhardened" versions of it.
Ha. Of course it won't be illegal. The government is the biggest beneficiary of this compulsory spyware.
I wish I had found this yesterday, but it is definitely helpful. Thank you!
Excellent job. I personally never use the home edition, as the Pro edition has more support for networking & definitely easier to create a local account.
I would recommend anyone who doesn't have an ethernet port to just buy an adapter. It is fairly cheap and the set up doesn't always give you an icon that you have a connection. This is what I use to set up laptops for my job, much easier to just plug and unplug like in this video!
True. I have a USB C ethernet adapter I use in my shop that I plug into a C to A adapter. I originally got it so I could transfer videos from my phone over ethernet instead of Wi-Fi. It works very well for stuff like this.
The way to describe wired vs. wifi to honest non-computer people when you're setting up their computer, (not whiny people who don't like wires), is that it's better to have a wired connection than to "spray your data 30 feet in every direction". Works every time. Later you can be more specific. I have seen people with wifi printers, etc. RIGHT NEXT to their router.
repeat after me:
"I do not want Microsoft"
MS Account = spyware, pure and simple. The latest example of MS making life difficult for users who just want to install an OS, have it be reliable, and work.
@Linden Reaper Even Ubuntu has a bit of a learning curve for most average PC users. Still looking more as a far better option going forward.
@@jater10 Try Pop OS! It's Ubuntu based, but has all the pretty sh1t Windows users typically miss, and use as an excuse for not switching.
@Bravo Six Yes, I use Google search. I do not have a Gmail account and I don't use Chrome, instead I use Firefox.
I desperately long for the internet where you didn’t have to make an account to use even the most basic services. I’m so tired of having to throw my information out into the void for something that took 3 clicks to accomplish when I was a teenager
I needed this information. Its annoying to be forced to have an account you are not comfortable with. I decided to have a local account . Thank you
I would understand this if windows 11 was free as a fresh install without needing a code, but not if you purchase it
My Windows 10 works just fine for me, there is *nothing* in Windows 11 that I can't quite happily do without. No Microsoft account for me!
Excepting that Windows 10 won't be supported by Microsoft after 14 Oct 2025.
@@socialite1283 After which it will still work just as well as it did on October 14, which is good enough for me. I don't care if it never gets updated after that, it does everything I need now. There are still millions of people happily using Windows XP eight years after Microsoft stopped supporting it.
@@douglasburnsideThat's fine if your computer will never connect to the network. Otherwise your computer is a risk for other people if security flaws are unaddressed.
@@douglasburnside except you won’t get security patches
@@douglasburnside XP is great for legacy software, but not much new software will work or work properly. It also isn't a good idea to connect that PC to a network or even go online because it will be easily owned by someone within a short time.
These are stopgap measures. Microsoft will force these things on you later whether you want it or not. They will close allof these workarounds.
Just start moving to Linux, adapt your workflows and switch to software alternatives (like Proton for gaming...etc). This is perfectly viable for many-many Windows users.
It's perfectly viable for maybe 1-2% of computer users. At a full time technician I can tell you without a doubt that the vast majority of users will never use Linux and shouldn't.
I feel ya dude. I don't want an ANYTHING account but you gotta come up with a new screen name and 24 character password that is at least half numbers, punctuation and emojis just to wipe your butt these days.
I've watched so many of these videos now about how you shouldn't have a Microsoft account to use your computer because mining of data. What I have never seen is anybody explain exactly what data they collect and more importantly why that's a bad thing and how it actually affects anybody. I'm also fairly certain that anybody who uses Google, Apple, insert other vendor here etc. is also open to the same data mining, but hey let's just beat on Microsoft because it's perceived that somehow it's different. There are literally millions of people using all these services and guess what, I don't hear many of them complaining about how it's ruined their lives.
you should leave your front door unlocked and open all the time then since privacy doesn't matter, after all people can listen in on you in public so why not let people in your house whenever they want?
For those of you who still want to use an M$ account, this is still important as it allows you to perform the *VITAL* step of creating a 'Setup' account that has admin privileges and regular user accounts for everyone else. Why? Mainly to make it harder for the clueless to install malware/etc. if they don't know the Setup password. I've done this with every computer I've set up since Vista days. (I also have a pair of scripts to install Chocolatey + basic apps and keep them updated.)
who would set up your pc with malware, a repair shop? You must be referring to the user being exposed to malware by accident, i assume. Now im curious, because i always have two accounts on my p.c., and all i need is my main account.
@@Catinthehackmatrix By accident, sheer cluelessness, an unpatched security hole, or someone else using the account that decides to install 'this really cool app/game because you really should see it'. (I once had a client call me up who was furious because 'the anti-malware that I had installed was now reporting hundreds of problems and hounding her for money to solve them when I had told her that her computer was safe and the app was free'. When I went over there, I was able to prove that her brother had removed it and installed something else that had almost the same name, but was 'better', according to him. She insisted on paying the full amount for my visit because she was going to get him to pay for it. She also would NEVER allow him to use her computer ever again. :grin: )
@@KeithOlson I see so someone else that gets on uses the guest or non admin accounts, copy that.
Bill Gates set the world back decades.
Pro Tip: switch to Linux now before Microsoft starts making you pay for them taking your personal data.
@@judaspreistvlct seek a mental health evaluation...
@@flipflopski2951 Do you play with turds?
Linux is not very good for the average consumer though.
@@DM-rc4yu Microsoft agrees with you... that's who their spyware is aimed at...
Wow 4 replies and can only see 1 comment.
Boy, has Microsoft hard time with you. 😀 Great work, very useful info.
Interesting work around! I also noticed with Windows 11 PRO it does give you the option to create a local account on this set up screen. However Windows 11 Home does not offer that option. Once windows installed, you can convert the account to a LOCAL account and then manage it as a local account like normal.
Other work arounds
When creating a new user with Windows 11 HOME (post install), it forces the Microsoft Account. The work around is to right click My PC, then Manage, then users, create a new user the manual way (not through control panel users). You need to use Computer Management Users.
It amazes me how much people cling to Windows even though Microsoft strips their users of their rights and control with every version, Windows 10 was a privacy nightmare. Most non-IT people just need the web browser, some creativity apps and Steam. Which all work perfectly fine on the user-friendly Linux distros. A lot of people agree to Microsoft's abuse instead of trying something new, exciting and empowering.
Swore by Apple all my life, had one taste of android, and immediately left that flaming trash heap. Swore by windows my entire life, I've used Linux once before but hated it, honestly, it's looking quite a bit more appetizing the more and more this continues.
User friendly Linux… That is the most laughable sentence Ive seen.
I shouldnt have to google how to install an application and then have it fail because it has some stupid dependency in a github repo that hasnt been maintained in 4 years.
Linux is fine if you NEVER UPDATE ANYTHING. I use Debian daily at work and I have a love-hate relationship with Linux. Ive never bricked a Windows desktop with an update. Ive never locked out all of the accounts with a broken update with a cyclic dependency failure. I literally had to reinstall the OS to get it working again.
Already in the process of switching to Linux. I'm done with Microsoft. They're obviously not going to stop when it comes to Telemetry and Data Collection for their own profits so I'm making the switch to what computing was always meant to be IMO.
I ditched microsoft in 2008, and went with linux. Couldn't be happier. I even forced my parents in law into linux, and they haven't complained. I only use microsoft when I have no other alternative. The users must be in full control and linux is the way. And as of today, linux distros are beginner friendly, so people don't really have any excuses.
Windows and Linux both have their uses and one isn't really better then the other. It depends on what your doing.
@@CyberCPU I absolutely agree! That's why I still use windows when linux can't do what I want. But linux doesn't require any personal data. I hate it when apps and other stuff ask for unnecesary data and permisions to do their stuff.
Great channel, keep up the work!
@@eddiefranklin1446 yeah, I get that. I have several systems. My primary system runs Linux. However, my others all have Windows 10 on them.
@@eddiefranklin1446 But Linux market share has dropped to below 2% again.
Win 11 is now 9%
People don’t have any excuse?
There’s like countless reasons why linux isn’t a fit for most people, nor do people even want to use it.
There’s plenty of excuse for not using linux, like wanting to play games, every once in a while.. online, with buddies..
Ive got the home, and disable edge, webview and never open a MS account. It CRIPPLES our pc. I will not allow tracking, it screws it up. And I have an oshutup.
Good Job. So sick of all of these people forcing accounts on you.