@@macblink I've been hearing the cries of lessened security in Windows 7 for what is now more than 2 years and, let's try to be logical on this, the argument does not make sense W7 was actively updated for over 10 years. Any security holes have been locked down tighter than Fort Knox, and any hole they missed is something they had no intention of patching out and therefore probably also still exists in more recent versions of Windows and/or was intentionally introduced to create a vulnerability (which being Microsoft I can easily imagine them doing) so, less security? Compared to what?
For me, Windows 11 is a proof that whoever develops or make decision for new product at Microsoft either never actually use Windows , or only uses it to browse youtube.
No man, MS people know selling OS is not as profitable as selling user data. Without the account-based activities or the browser, MS will lose every battle with google.
I've owned an IT business for 20 years and I really appreciate guys like you who take the time to make videos like this. You have a gift for making this type of content and although this is my first video, I've subscribed and look forward to watching your other content.
And this is why I've been researching Linux recently... Ive battles windows 10 down to a bearable state but I'm not dealing with it again for 11, especially if they are removing customization and efficiency so they can lazily port their os to tablets
One look at it and I decided I’ll not upgrade. They’re trying too hard to become MacOS. I choose windows because I appreciate the traditional start menu that they got right over two decades ago. The problem is that they’re trying to reinvent the wheel. Windows XP, Windows 7, and Windows 10 were all done right. What reason would they have for forcing their browser and other services on their users?
Well i think you fail to realize for one that Windows 10 and 11 were free for the first time. and if you forgot EVERY version of windows came with BS bloat and adverts like Microsoft office icons that were just shortcuts to install the programs that you had to pay extra for. it's always funny the reluctance to change. In the Tech industry change never stops. Yes 11 has some really stupid crap in it but the start menu because of what they have done to it since windows 7 it's become nothing more then a search bar for everything . the icons in the menu pointless completley.
@@KShedTech Change in the tech industry is why we’re going to see companies like Microsoft lose their way and become irrelevant like Facebook and the “Metaverse” soon will be. You can only optimize so much and at some point all you’re doing is moving backwards.
to be honest, i like the design of Windows 11, so i upgraded my pc to windows 11. im happy with it for now but they'll never become a MacOS if they continue making these types of windows versions. honestly, they stole much from MacOS, im not trying to be rude to Microsoft, i really like the work that they do, but Windows 11 is not a Windows version for me, they tried changing the Windows with windows 8 but they were unsuccessful, i don't know why are they trying to do that again. the reason why i downloaded Windows 11 is my familiarity with MacOS design, but yea if you like Windows's style this version is clearly not for you.
"Do you love Windows 11?" Oh, sure! I love how Microsoft takes 1 step forward and 5 steps backwards with every new version of Windows starting with Windows 8... When are they going to learn that we don't want Mobile styled features on a PC? When?
it seems like "every other" version of windows is good... Windows 2000.. yes... Windows me.. NO.. windows XP.. yes ... Windows Vista.. NO.. windows 7.. yes... Windows 8.... NO.. windows 10.... yes... windows 11... NO (btw i actually loved 8 and 10 tablet mode but i had a tablet pc so)
@@thebeatles9 i still use windows me in on of my vintage pc, its my fastest booting pc and this thing is way more reliable for me than win98se, windows 2000 came in the same time than me
What made Windows so amazing to start was how intuitive it was. Almost anyone could suddenly navigate and be productive on a computer. With the later versions, that intuitiveness has steadily decreased.
That was one of my complaints, plus how Windows gradually made changes to the OS behavior that became more authoritarian. Win10, for instance, would not allow me to control updates the way I wanted them. Some things were made more difficult. Now, my favorite (Win7) can't be authenticated on my new PC, so I'm off to Linux -- the land of freedom and productivity.
@@RodMartinJr Compared to Windows 10, windows 7 just seemed better organized too. I could easily get to for example the devices and printers in 2 clicks, without searching! Also safe mode was easier to use. I am still confused why they made safe mode harder to use. I just don't get that.
@@jackkraken3888 I think it's blind certainty. When some kinds of people become certain they have the "right" answer, they stop looking. Thomas Sowell called them the "anointed" -- those with the "unconstrained vision" of the world (and he was not being kind). I, too, was not being kind in my book, *_Dumb Geniuses: How intelligence is sometimes its own worst enemy_* (hardcover, paperback, ebook)
I actually think it's the controller problem with consoles. So the NES had 8 buttons, and a ton of people found that easy and comforting, and they complained when it became over 16, but games have to do more things than they did at first and so does Windows. For instance, OG Windows didn't have to work nearly identically on several different classes of computer systems.
@@jackkraken3888 it was. UI-wise, Windows 7 was the sweet spot. Not that certain things in Win10 and 11 aren't pretty. but overall, they are just... plainer. More "white box" and boring. More "samey". Which sounds odd to say as every fresh install of any Windows version looks identical to all the other fresh copies of that version. But still, Windows 7 had character and configurability You could really make it your own, and after 10+ years of support, it worked fantastically. Because of all this, and despite it still being very firmly grounded in the 32 bit world, it was and is still the all time most popular version of Windows, ever. Everything since then has been a disappointment.
I like my Windows 10 (I liked 7, and liked XP back in the day too). It's snappy, easy to navigate, customizable, and I keep my Start Menu organized with my most used apps clasified in tile groups (productivity, games, audio production, etc...) so depending on the work I'm doing, I can get to them quickly. The task bar is movable and keeps its icons and tray at the corners, away from your center of attention (the way it should be). The new taskbar and Start Menu could be the main reason I'll skip Win11. Windows 11 is taking away the features I like most about Windows (and bringing up stuff similar to things that I hate about macOS). I don't want a macOS/iOS, I want a Windows.
I've been playing with the developer preview and I plan to do a video on it soon. Many of those things have been changed. You can now group icons and some of the task bas functionality has been restored.
same. Only upgraded to 10 a few months ago and it was a real game changed. problem is i had to buy a new laptop which has window 11... why did they change everything that was great about 10?
It amazes me how for each edition of Windows all but the most brainless tasks have become progressively more difficult. I can just about tolerate the level of bullshit in Windows 10. I don't see myself "upgrading" to 11 any time soon, if ever.
@@rumble1925 I had to use Mac at College and the floating windows thing I found very confusing. Like they wouldn't dock to full-screen and it seemed to be arbitrary which toolbar was active. Quite alien to me. Also having the file saving incompatibility issue with my home PC.
Win 7 was a masterpiece. I don't know why Microsoft is making their operating systems look like cell phones with bloatware and piracy. It's all about them and not the customers period!
Yeh I loved Windows 7 I hated being forced off of it and now soon we will be forced again........ffs I thought it was me paying for my equipment and I thought I owned it but apparently not lol
trying to make it more touch friendly for tablets i think is the way to go,because everything is become just more mobile,just need to trim it down and remove the bloatware ,most people will install the popular apps if need be,not to be forced to have it
Yes, windows 7 and windows 10 were the best. In my experience, Windows 10 is the most stable Windows I used, But windows 7 looks better. My unpopular opinion will be to bring back the old shutdown/restart style from windows XP. Much easier to see imo.
From the announcement of Win11 to today, I can't get rid of the message that my "computer can't run Windows 11." Thanks, Microsoft. It's getting to the point that my Personal Computer (PC) just isn't personal anymore, but they're taking steps to MAKE it personal with their users by changing everything those users loved about previous iterations of Windows.
He said that he doesn't like the stringent hardware requirements for win11. I do, it means I won't have to deal with the sneaky forced upgrade crap we had to deal with for win8. I won't be upgrading until I get a new pc, so probably like 4yrs from now.
@@morgan5941 By then Win 12 will be out which will fix all the "issues" which Win 11 has created - You do know that only alternate versions of MS products are any good 😂
my machines run linux just fine however. and they dont sell my information, force my machine to call home, require an account to install the os, update changes i do not want, its not prone to viruses, and the list goes on. all my steam games run great under proton. its been win win. kubuntu and zorin os are good options, but there are many others you can watch on yt and try.
Your channel is awesome to accurately and precisely present these issues while the mainstream couldn't be more clueless. We truly live in times of complete deceit.
When Microsoft says the new CPU requirements are for "safety" that just translates to please upgrade to new CPUs that have better backdoors enabled for Klaus Schwab and frens in my mind.
I really think people forgot the Spectre and Meltdown vulnerabllity. I get and and I know it sucks but im pretty sure thats the cutoff going by the dates of the CPUs on that list. Maybe they just dont want to support CPUs that are easily exploitable without software patches. Windows live creds to login to windows though that's dumb and dont get it.
@@mastert2990 I gave them benefit of the doubt too but they are a trillion dollar industry in charge of half the computer industry and they can make up anything in order to gain more control.
The lack of taskbar customization, waste of space in start menu, the extra clicks to find the option you want, and not all control panel items being accessible in settings are some of the most notable things that still makes me want to stay in Windows 10! I agree with every point you made, and until Microsoft fixes these issues, I'm staying on Windows 10. Heck, I would even go back to Windows 8.1, if some software developers like Elgato still supported pre-Windows 10 OS's.
I agree. It's the little things about Windows 11, but crucially those little things have a big effect on work productivity. My hope is that they will fix these issues at least in an update soon, then I'll happily upgrade. My ancient PC is unsupported but it's easy to bypass it and install!
I have one windows 10 comp and another running windows 11 and 10 is easily better. I've given 11 enough time to get used to it so I don't think it's bias to say that. Everything just feels more easily accesible in 10.
I would disagree to say Win11 is a bad OS. I think it's one of the best OSs I have used maybe after Win7. Yes it has quirks but it is definitely the biggest and best step in the right direction for Windows.
Just got my win 11 update notification again. Did a quick search. Found this video. Clicked "Stay on win 10 for now." I'll wait for windows 11 to become windows 10 before upgrading. Thanks for the video.
The main thing I cannot understand about these upgrades (if you can call them that) is why the user interface has become progressively less intuitive. Why do I have to search for basic system/device controls? And even after you find the right menu, you still have to wade through a long list of unclearly named topics or you may have to travel through a mess of additional sub-menus. It's a bloody mess.
I loved control panel, it was like a proper command center, I was so lost when they changed it. Absolutely hate grouping of the icons too and can't imagine being unable to undo that!
Don't worry, enough tools will be available. I run on Win 10 and haven't tested the features of the new version Winaero (free/open source) That let's you pick options and settings that were removed from either XP, Vista, Win 7, Win 8. Another tool is called Windows Tweaker 5 for Win 11. What you otherwise could use, for the time being or longer when you like it, is enable a sort God Mode. You will have all the settings in 1 place. You have to make a file without an extension and it will change to have the Control Panel icon. But I will post those steps in another comment, often TH-cam removes longer comments for spam alert I guess. 1/2
GodMode is a special folder in Windows that gives you quick access to over 200 tools and settings that are normally tucked away in the Control Panel and other windows and menus. Once enabled, GodMode lets you do all sorts of things, like quickly open the built-in disk defragmenter, view event logs, access Device Manager, add Bluetooth devices, format disk partitions, change display settings, update drivers, open Task Manager, adjust your mouse settings, show or hide file extensions, change font settings, rename the computer, and a lot more. The way GodMode works is actually very simple: just name an empty folder on your computer as outlined below, and then instantly, the folder will turn into a super-handy place to change all sorts of Windows settings.
To do this, right-click or tap-and-hold on any empty space in any folder in Windows, and choose New > Folder. You need to make a new folder. not just use an existing folder that already has files and folders in it. If you proceed to Step 2 using a folder that already has data in it, all of those files will instantly become hidden, and while GodMode will work, your files will not be accessible. When asked to name the folder, copy and paste this into that text box and then click away or press Enter: God Mode.{ED7BA470-8E54-465E-825C-99712043E01C} Done. 3/3 Just be careful of course.
It's still there, hit windows key + R (this opens the run box), type in control and hit enter. When control panel opens click "View by" (top right) and select small icons. Done. This is for Windows 10 and 11. Cheers.
15+ years in IT and very happy that they had those hardware requirements in place... because it kept me from getting this horrible OS. This push to limit your ability to change settings is frustrating. I guess its time to dust off the linux books and move to a real operating system.
I work in It for 25 years, always microsoft minded. Now I use Linux Pop OS for most of my work. Give it a try, it works really smooth and looks real nice out of the box.
You can use Windows until 2025, but when a system is upgraded to Win 11, you really only have 11 days to decide if you want to revert it back. I reverted mine back once in January, but went back to Win 11 for I like the idea of ap support which has been wanted for years on PC, but I often have a case of disappearing task bar icons like browser icon preventing me from going back into it which is frustrating. Windows 10 was the very best version and 11 seems a bit off for I'm a bit confused that icons sometimes disappear and you can't personalize as much as you might like to on layout for I've tried already a few weeks ago.
@Linden Reaper Until things go wrong (your erstwhile know-how and years of experience sussing out and resolving problems, simply just knowing what and how, are not translatable/applicable). I know full-well Linux is and always has been the superior (Linux's shortcomings are a woeful lack of, until recently, software developer interest/support. Proprietary in particular); however, it even still is truly not for everyone. It's all well and good... until you encounter the uncommon issue... and find the user-to-user help base is much, much smaller than with Windows. When help's slow to come, if at all... you're well and truly it, as in the buck stops with you, when that happens. I am not looking forward to it, being in that hot seat (household admin; plex server too; now grateful I am not in IT professionally. I am no longer enjoying it, definitively since 10, truth be told. Never been more exhausted. 10's environment is like fighting quicksand, the whole time). Add to this, it isn't truly a mere change in OS but nearly the entire software 'ecosystem' too (predominantly inferior alts to Office, Adobe, so on; no offense to anyone intended, but that's true). Windows I know how to fix, no problem. But even for me it's now way too far gone (11's my worst nightmare: a mix of Vista and 8)... and I just don't know if I can actually successfully administrate/maintain Linux. (Damn M$ for all this). To my mind it's rather like if somebody only knows how to drive automatic and yet finds themselves having to operate a manual semi... (yes, I do see that Linux has gotten better, a lot; but still). >_
"No, I'm not gonna do it" has been my answer to Microsoft on pretty much every topic for the last 15 years. Starting to get fed up with Apple as well. "Make freedom cool again" is something I can certainly agree with!
@@kiillabytez When I was 15 years old I stood in line, at midnight, at a computer store (can't remember which one, it shut down about 15 years ago) to buy Windows 95. That was probably peak Windows. It's been downhill ever since, and Windows is absolutely intolerable for me at work where literally everything I do runs on Linux. I probably spend 30% of my time trying to clean up after developers who are forced to use Windows when the end result always runs on Linux. Anyway, enough of my problems! Take care, buddy!
So then you must be a Linux user like me? I started with Linux just late last year. After Apple //e, Macintosh Performa 600CD, Mac mini, Mac mini minus the optical drive which I had to add as a USB device, now a former decade-old Windows 7 PC mini-tower switched over to Linux. Maybe I am finally defecting from artsy-fartsy Leftist Apple. I never was impressed with Apple's over-hyped and overpriced mobile products. Still not quite past the "Why can't my Linux do stuff like Mac OS did so well?"
@@kiillabytez It was indeed CompUSA! Thanks for jogging my memory, that is really bringing it all back! We also had a local software store throughout the 80s and 90s, they did "midnight runs" as well. Fun times as a kid growing up!
Also, I agree with you on the excessive clicks. When I right click on the desktop or in a folder, I ALWAYS need to view more options. The default options are never ever what I need. Why is "Send to" not in the default menu???
Thank you so much. I was livid for months after the Win11 release, because none of the technologist I follow on social media would be honest about how bad it was. It was making me crazy for a while. they act like they have to pretend on behalf of Microsoft or something. Most of them are not working at Microsoft, and I just could not make sense of it. It still bothers me that no one will mention that Win11 is leftover UI elements from the FAILED Windows X. It is like they have a gag order or something, and are not allowed to say it. What will it hurt? Only thing that can happen is MS gets it's act together and fixes the thing. Why does everyone have such a hard time just saying the OS is garbage right now. And why does it make people 'bad' or 'negative' to say the truth? Thanks for being honest in this review. Windows 11 is a mess, and should not be acceptable from a company like MS.
Ungrouping Taskbar Labels is the reason why I went back to Win10. It is so unproductive, especially when I have 3-5 explorer windows opened at any time. I don't want them to be hidden behind an icon. PS. I see you're a car guy. Nice! PPS. Good video. Subbed
So, preview? works for me. just hover over the icon and you get a visual break out of every window that you can use to easily pick the one you want while not cluttering your taskbar.
@@TopCarsTV I guess it depends on how often you use this feature. I use it maybe once a week. For me that works out to about 90 seconds a year? I think I can handle that.
@@TheOneTonHammer How do I benefit from the fact it works for you? It doesn't work for me. I don't want idiotic groupped icons, delays, hovers or animations. I want bars with labels, separated, because it used to be that way for about 30 years. I get that some people might like it, but why isn't this an option? OS is a layer between hardware and apps, I don't want it to force me into workflows I'm not familiar with or interested in.
@@hovnocuc4551 remember, taskbar grouping when the bar wasn’t full only appeared in windows 7, ELEVEN years ago, not 30. I’m not trying to convince you of anything. It doesn’t bother me if there is a feature you don’t like. It just seems a juvenile reason to write off an entire release of an operating system for. 🤷♂️ you do you, boo.
"Every other version" sounds catchy as a joke, but it's far from the truth. I have zero experience with the first or second ever Windows OS but... Windows 3.1/3.11 was great. Then came Windows 95, which also was great. Then came Windows 98, which was great, at least around the second edition era. Then Windows Me sucked. Windows 2000 followed, which was great. After that, Windows XP, which is arguably the best. Windows Vista sucked. Then Windows 7 came and was great. Windows 8/8.1 was really bad, but then came Windows 10 and grew from tollerable to good after a while. Now Windows 11 is here and is said to suck too. Windows 11 aside (too early to tell, Windows 10 sucked in it's infancy aswell), Microsoft evidently has a better track-record than "every other version". You've got Windows Me, Vista, and Windows 8. That's only 3 bad ones out of 10 (if we don't count the server and NT versions, and each did their respective jobs very well for their time - which would add even more to the good side total of windows releases). That is the actual truth.
I have just started using windows 11 on my Amd system. You are on point about what sucks in windows 11. Luckily, the Amd issue has been fixed with bios and a software update. They brought back widgets I feel they suck too. I disabled the widgets engine. Widgets are just so Microsoft can force feed you msn news. (In my opinion).
glad you caught that. Microdick basically wants to rifle through your pockets, sell your info and force feed you porkaganda. I'm not putting up with it, I hope nobody else is either. We need to send Microdick the same message we sent them when they tried to cram touchscreen down our throats.
Microsoft once made a perfect OS. Everybody loved it. It was fun, reasonable, easy to use, free with no strings attached, and in a word great. If MS was human it would go back to featuring this their greatest product ever -- but I'm glad they're not because they'd just ruin it in some way. It was called Windows 7, and I'll use it till I die.
Well, not really free, but I agree with the rest of your points. Windows XP is another honorable mention for its fun and familiar user interface and the snappiness. Nowadays I wouldn't use Windows 7 anymore if it's connected to the internet, though. Not unless you know what you're doing, anyways-using some kind of ad blocker, finding a way to install the newest security updates normally only used by paid customers etc. If somehow there's a version of Windows 7 with all the security updates of Windows 10/11, that would've been the ultimate option.
Nope...Win 7 is too heavy...good for corporate usage...not so much for personal. Windows 8.1 was a great stepforward for personal use...then Win 10 and now Win 11. I still have a machine (now retired), single core VIA processor 1GHz using just 1 Giga DDR2 RAM running Win 8.1. (for 2 years it was my Headless Torrent Box and Personal File Server). My only complain about Win 11 is, as the video has shown...the huge amount of bugs. No quite big bugs...but lots of small (and irritating) ones...but M$ is fixing them day by day.
Thanks for a nice review. The trend of demanding personal accounts for every damn software we use is maddening. I guess I'll stick to W10 as long as I can.
XP Pro had everything I wanted - Control, ease of use, and customization. I could run it bare with the right drivers and my programs would sing. More memory? Yup. More power? Yup. Games ran like butter? Yup, yup! It was a time when WinXP took over Sparq rendering in the industry because it was STABLE and unobtrusive. I don't think we'll see another OS like it until Microsoft's monopoly falls over from becoming top-heavy.
Not many XP era computers supported 64 bit version. XP had a strong long run but the newer apps and games these days require everyone to atleast have 7. It felt like a big loss at first when many app developers dropped support for XP but I hope we never need to go past 7.
XP was indeed the pinnacle. All they've done since is incrementally make everything more difficult for the user. I guess they have to change things to justify their existence and paychecks? As someone whose job it is to design usable software I have to say that Windows gets further from being intuitive with every new release.
Thanks for the very informative info on Windows 11. My laptop meets MS Windows 11 requirements and I have been holding off from upgrading. But now, I think I'm going to stick with Windows 10 till its retired in 2025.
Windows 7 and XP where the best. Everything was simple and functional, and everything worked like it was supposed to back then.. -When they actually still cared about quality control.
I reluctantly went from XP over to Windows 7 back in the days, and fell in love with it... Still trying to fall in love with Win 10... will be years till I try 11
XP... check! WinVista?... Yuck! Win7... check! Win8... Yuck! Win10?... Yuck! Heck. I like MS DOS better than most of their Windows products. Now that I'm unable to authenticate my perfectly legal Win7 on my new hardware, I'm waving Bye-Bye to Microsoft and hello Linux.
@@rengurenge Details? I've seen a dozen "cracking" methods. So far, either they didn't work or seemed too risky (virus potential -- "disable your firewall and connect to a server in China," for instance; LOL!).
Great video thanks, just came across your channel. Im very happy with W10 Pro and wont budge until they stop updates for it! In fact I'll say W7 and W10 are two of my fav Windows editions. Subbed! Btw I like your very neat and tidy minimal setup!
The only time I remember MicroSoft being upfront about the crap they were giving us was the admission on the day that ME was released that there were 60,000+ known bugs, but only 28,000 were potentially serious.
@@justmeiniowa The first computer I got at 12 years old, which I wanted more than anything in the world, was a 1.0 Ghz Intel Celeron with windows ME on it. I loved that computer. I combed through every setting and optimization with great joy and actually made that thing run great. I resisted upgrading to XP for like a year after having access to it just because everything ran great and I knew exactly how to work and squeeze every drop of performance out of that system. For me, when it finally happened, XP was more of a visual upgrade because I liked how everything looked smooth and round in it. I didn't notice much of a difference in performance until I combed through all of XP's settings and optimized it for peak performance like I had done with ME. I hated Vista with a passion because most of the computers I fixed for people back then had vista on them and that was a giant paint in my ass to work with. Making those Vista machines run anything above "just barely ok" was near impossible. I'll take a windows ME over a Vista ANYDAY...
@@justmeiniowa nothing wrong with vista. People who say that are usually xp fanatics. I used vista for five years the only thing I had a problem with was the creative sound blaster drivers gave me errors.
Windows 7 was almost perfect, they could added more options in the control panel and added better battery management, better audio control access like which is in W10, better network selection etc. Then it would been perfect, oh and tabbed Explorer windows, but no, Microsoft essentially like "Fuck you guys, give us your money"
@SMGJohn: windows 11 is more of a lamens OS because businesses normally buy refurbished Dell desktop wholesale not laptops because businesses care about profit. I don't feel that business will ever use windows 11 because ethier windows 12 is available for older PC or Linux can has windows 11 support in 🍷.
@@gotsm9959 Businesses are forced to upgrade once Windows reaches its end of cycle life, they cannot risk having old stuff running. But yes you are in large parts right, they will avoid upgrading wherever possible, I seen Windows 3.1 still run in the fucking bank as of 2022 because they are too greedy to upgrade it LOL, but again, if it works, it works, only downside is, having W3.1 connected to the internet, not the most brilliant idea.
@@SMGJohn Well business don't have to run windows they can use Linux and some new company like banks have only make consumer software for iPads for things like HRD checking .
As far as UX is concerned, for me, Windows 7 was the pinnacle of Windows evolution, and it's been downhill ever since. It feels almost like Microsoft went out of their way to make Windows as ugly as possible (to have a "Soviet-era" look (drab colours, depressing-looking fonts and other graphic elements)), and to make it as inconvenient as possible for serious users (e.g. people who work with a lot of text, and who prefer to use keystrokes instead of a mouse to perform certain tasks, because those are much faster). It's as if Microsoft had decided that, starting with Win 8, their primary customer was going to be a colour-blind 3-year old child with no esthetic sense whatsoever, who liked to use nothing but his fingers to interact with computers, and who would never want to compose any bodies of text longer than 20 words. Why couldn't they just make "Microsoft Bob 2.0" for the toddlers, and leave the Windows 7 UX unfucked-up for the serious users?
Yea win 7 was definitely Windows' peak. And before that it was XP. This video may be about 11, but I still really don't like using windows 10 either, even after like 2 years of doing so. So many less-functional menus, more clicks to get to places, more advanced functionality and settings are harder to get to, the look feels hard and too minimalistic opposed to 7's soft and nicely clean look, etc. If this continues windows is going to eventually design itself out of it's majority market share.
I agree. Personally, XP was my favorite, but 7 wasn't bad. Microsoft has aggressively removed or obfuscated features that I routinely find myself wanting to use. Got an old projector that has an HDMI port but doesn't use an HDMI resolution? Then there's the issue of removing customization features.. I mean, someone who is completely new to using computers but is familiar with phones may have an easier time learning the system, but those of us who are power users are being pushed away.
@@kittenisageek I'm somewhere in between a power and casual user. XP was a bit too complicated for my liking. 7 was spot on for me. But XP was the best before 7. After that it's all been downhill. The only reason I switched to 10 was because my motherboard/cpu upgrade didn't accept 7. The excuse was/is that the chipset doesn't properly work with 7, but that's bullshit. As there have been people that unlocked them to make 7 work just fine. So yea, microsoft basically forces people to get the new windows these days, by arbitrarily making newer motherboards/cpus lock out older ones...
Thanks for the info. I am going to stay with windows 10 as long as I can. I want to be able to easily choose my browser. (I don't use Edge.) I like the uncluttered layout of the Windows 10 start menu. I don't need or want a lot of 'bloatware' or advertising on my start menu. I like being able to arrange the items that I access most in a way that suits me. Also, I like to arrange icons on the task bar the way that I want them arranged. I like being able to make the task bar icons smaller. I don't need the fancy new android interface. I don't sync any other devices to my computer. I don't play X-box games. And though I seldom go to the control panel, I want to be able to do so if I want to. Sounds like when the day comes that we are forced to switch to windows 11, I am going to be very unhappy with it.
The taskbar in windows 11 is such a sht show it's unbelievable. I can understand not improving the taskbar but making it worse than w10 is unforgivable. You can't move it accross monitors. You can't force display all notification icons unless you click everything. And it will only anchor to your main screen which is stupid if you need to keep a clean full screen for an application.
true... even linux is a pain, every freaken time you want to adjust a setting "ENTER YOUR PASSWORD" for fuck sake what's the lockscreen for if the OS is paranoid you got kidnapped by an intruder before being able to lock the screen... it just keeps asking to enter your password "just in case"
Like many Windows users (and I worked for Microsoft from 1988 to 1998) I've leap-frogged between good and bad versions of Windows. Windows 95 was when it became maybe better than Mac OS, then came Windows XP which many of us stuck with for over a decade, then a few versions (2000, ME) which sucked, and then Windows 7 which was ultimately the one to stay with for another decade. Windows 8 then also sucked, they skipped 9.0 for whatever reason, and now I'm in Windows 10 world and pretty happy with it, even if it meant I had to buy a new laptop with it pre-installed. They then started auto-harassing me to upgrade to Windows 11, but given the track record I'm back again to the "If it ain't broke don't fix it" crowd. So is Windows 11 another "NOPE"? Thanks for this video and warning not to succumb to yet another pressure to "upgrade" again? I'll stick with Windows 10 until there is enough evidence to go ahead.
A lot of the things he talks about are being addressed in the Windows 11 Insider builds (like the browser setting issue and the task bar icons/recommendations). I'd say give it a year or so and it should be fine to upgrade.
There are a few Linux distros that have the same functionality and are much more stable than Windows. You can always use a Windows emulator if it's software that is Windows only.
@@luci-fer250 I waited a while to get vista and never had any issues with it. It was only the fools that rushed in first that had problems and the next version of windows after vista was for all practical purposes vista rebranded.
You CAN put control panel back on the desktop. In Windows 10 (and probably 11), right click on the desktop, select the "Personalize" option, select "Themes", go to the far right and look for "Related settings". Under that, click on "desktop icon settings". This brings up the old Windows 7 screen where you can put the old icons back on the desktop. I always use this setting because it lets me single click to open the PC, my personal folders, control panel, etc.
I just recently had to get a new laptop, because my 8 yr-old champ decided to die on me, so I got to enjoy all the fun of using Windows 11. I agree with a lot of what you've discussed, as well as many other commenters' issues, along with my own fun experiences in the past few weeks. Apparently, you can't change your user folder/user profile name without glitching out Windows bad enough to render your computer virtually unsalvageable. Also, I've experienced a glitch that reverts the system volume to full blast, so you can't mute your system notifications without going in and deleting the audio files. Speaking of, there's also a delightfully unchangeable setting that makes all file folders revert to 'read-only' if there's another folder inside, so if I need to delete a large project from my directory, I have to either delete every file individually, or go into the admin profile to give myself the permissions to delete said folder, only to have subsequent new folders created still bear the 'read-only' status. It's like Microsoft goes out of their way to put out a broken, garbage OS that hates its users.
I like the way windows 11 looks visually, but functionally it seems rough. I’ll wait for a while. Thanks for the info! Oh and not to mention the litany of issues with ryzen CPUs!
I tried Windows 11 about 3 times with several weeks in between each try, giving Microsoft a chance to fix their problems. A severely limited taskbar, limited context menus, forced grouping of similar app spaces, bloatware, and forced use of a Microsoft account had me reverting back to Windows 10 within only a few hours each time. At this point I'm just not going to do it any more, and as the IT manager at my office, I'm not supporting or helping anyone with Windows 11 issues now either. Windows 11 will not be allowed in our workplace unless it's on personal equipment, and that will be unsupported. Microsoft has really dropped the ball on this one.
If you're the IT manager, why not just not install the bloatware? It doesn't force you to use a Microsoft account. Perhaps it did at one point (?). However, if I were in your position, I'd probably want to use LTSC instead, so the normal release cycles would be irrelevant.
In a work environment where they are employing even an IT manager, they should use win11 professional and not home anyway. Multiple reasons, including central management options on installed sw, azure to access central infrastructure like network printers, etc.
You dont have to use microsoft account except if you are using enterprise edition (which is normal, thats windows of your work or school). Context menu is same if you click more options. I use pc for different tasks (photo editing, gaming, education, programming) and i did not find anything which is missing on win 11, that existed on win 10.
When I was using Windows 7 on my systems it took me a looooong time to decide to switch to Windows 10. I just bypassed Windows 8 and 8.1 altogether because of the hassle of learning a new operating environment and for the reasons pointed out here. To me, Windows has always been a royal pain in the ASS migrating from one OS to a newer version that I may not like. I've had it with Microsoft and their Windows. Windows 10 is going to be the last OS I use from Microsoft. I may continue using it way past it's last day of support, but after I decide to quite using Windows 10 altogether I am going to start using Linux Mint on all my systems. I am using Mint 20.1 now in conjunction with Windows 10, only because I have some programs that only run in Windows. But nowadays with WINE you can run Windows software in Linux so that makes leaving Windows even easier. The real problem may be that Microsoft is now becoming "WOKE" and they want to control more of our computer use and enjoyable experiences. Unfortunately...Just not the Windows of past generations. In a FREE world there is no need for Windows and Gates! GO LINUX!
Been on Windows 7 and used windows 10 on a friends computer, worst experience i've had on a computer, and never upgraded. Windows 7 now complains to me at least twice a day to upgrade, or that my veesion is "no longer supported", and I will happily endure that, so long as I don't have to deal with the hassle that is downgrading to Windows 10+. I'm switching to linux the moment windows 7 decides to brick itself. Without even going into the amount of annoying oversight that microsoft tries to have these days, (to say nothing of the spyware they shovel into the OS) Microsoft is evolving backwards, and I have no intention of following them. Windows had a _near_ perfect balance of user control around 7, and they decided to throw it all out the window.
@@vla1ne _throw it all out the window_ ? I often call it MyCrud$oft Windoze. I am moving from Macintosh to Linux elementary running on a former Windows 7 PC. Would Mint or Pop OS have been better?
To many of us long term Windows users, it's just another of the "odd man out" Windows versions... like Millennium, Vista, and 8. I think what plagues Windows so badly is that they (probably) get this set of ideas in their head as to how they need to improve the OS with every other version, then on the first version they try to do this in, they fail hard. Eventually, after a year or two of losing numbers compared to previous versions, the project managers all be like, "Yeah, you know that 5 ft tall stack of printer-paper-thin suggestions that all say the same thing about how we should have designed [insert literally ANY functionality here] in the first place? Maybe if you could somewhat fix that now, that'd be great." XP and 7 don't count. They were like extensions of 2000 (I say that loosely. And one could even argue extension of 98, albeit on a non-kernel, interface level). With each version, most things got a little better. Whether it was ease of use, included drivers, settings availability, software compat, etc. Hell, even the interfaces were all similar. And then somehow, they're all like, "Yeah, no. Let's just limit people and make shit obsolete. Oh yeah! And let's bloat it and give it bugs and issues that are hard to fix!" lol Dear Microsoft. Stop. Just use the KISS principle, and also give us access to settings. That's literally all the philosophy you need. Honestly? I can't wait until the debacle that will be Windows 13 lol
Why hate on 8? Just because it disables your wifi every time it sleeps doesn't make it a trash OS. 😂 I have also been using M$ since 3.1 and, well, it is as the WinDixie grocery stores jingle says, ".. Getting Better all the Time".
10 was an odd man out version for me after the upgrade (relative to 8) that was 8.1 (which for my money may as well be 9). 10 is slow, obtrusive to power users, loaded with spyware, and not actually having any features that new software would actually need outside of DX12 (which makes software actually requiring it largely a matter of vendor lockouts. For example, if you just edit the minimum version number in one of the installation files, you can put the latest Adobe AfterEffects and Premiere on a W7 machine). 11 seems somehow even worse than 10, looking like a hollywood version of a user-friendly computer. Does it even give you fullscreen in games? The commercials all show the start bar in what should be fullscreen applications
Windows 11 is such an amazing piece of software that I've finally upgraded my Win10 work machine to Debian 11. Thankfully, all tools I need for work are cross-platform anyway. Couldn't be happier, runs faster than win10 and you can customize the shit out of it. BTW, just bumped into this chanel accidentally, your delivery is amazing. Subscribed, liked. :)
I despise the lack of OS consistency. Having to click "show more options" to get to the old context menu, not able to show application name in the taskbar, lack of menu items when right clicking the taskbar, of course Bing always sucks. I downgraded from 10 to 11 but will be going back to 10
Ya, half the settings and shit is still straight from Windows 2000. It's pathetic. If they're going to overhaul the look of the OS, don't half ass it and only do 1/2 of the UI.
100% Agree, I use old context menu a lot in explorer, and the need to click show more options is dumb. I also use WinRar occasionally so more annoying than ever lol
My vender discouraged me using Windows 11 on my new system (3rd Gen AMD Rhyzen on Galax B550M EX). Initially, I was not happy about his recommendations. However, now I'm beginning to understand why I shouldn't upgrade to 11. Thank you so much. (I subscribed 👌🏆)
I asked the Woz why Apple and MS often made the user interface harder to use and he said that it was because the programmers needed to justify their pay checks. To be blunt one of the much earlier versions of Windows, at least to me, had a better user interface. In recent years they just make them worse for most of us. I also don't want to dump my text documents, etc. on line. Not everything is public information and if they have it then my privacy has a hole in it you can send a super tanker through. For that reason I now use libre office. Oh yes, I had to look up how to turn off the computer in windows 11. Foolish!!!
No. The programmers are not doing shit regarding user experience. They just program what they are told. And I doubt very much that you asked Woz and he said this.
I'm sorry, but how da fuq do you have to look up how to shutdown windows? It's basically the same as it has been in every version of windows and it's the same as in every desktop environment that has a start menu.
@@lycanthoss The shut down command in all previous versions has been in the same location. In eleven you have to right click on the on the window then in on a list near the bottom. It only took a couple of minutes but this is just another example of brilliant stupidity that occurs when staff decides to change the interface. I call them time wasters.
@@dwightehowell8179 but the location of the shut down button is completely intuitive. And for how different the UI is, I'd say it's basically the same location.
This was really helpful. I bought a new HP just before 11 came out and this computer was set up with 10, but with the knowledge 11 was due shortly and once that happened, it keeps reminding me to upgrade. It's hardwired in there to keep pushing the upgrade now that it's available. Now I know to just avoid doing that.
The best,really best channel i've been seen on youtube who speaks out actually well about the case such as about newly introduced MS win 11 and so much other subjects, IS HERE.
Regarding the sound issue, I'd recommend going into device manager to see if it's constantly removing and re-adding a particular device. If that narrows it down, see if there's an updated device driver for it. Failing that, if the device isn't required you could disable it for now until a new driver is released (potentially via Windows Update).
I think I've narrowed it down to the Corsair Commander pro. Typically when I put a test OS on the system I don't bother installing the iCUE software. It shows absolutely nothing in device manager but I haven't had time to test me iCUE theory, but it makes sense. It doesn't do it in my main Windows 10 OS. It just does it in Windows 11 test installs that I use for content. Once I'm done filming the videos I usually wipe it out so I haven't spent much time troubleshooting it.
Unfortunately the USB-beep issue is also present in Windows 10. I also suspect that it might have something to do with constantly adding and removing a device but my scanner for example still appears to do it's job just fine (I.e. even if I hear the sound in the middle of a 10 page scan job). If somebody finds a fix, I'D be happy for a tutorial.
Not sure if you’re running a Ryzen 5000 series CPU but I used to get the USB connect/disconnect sound ALL THE TIME😒. There were some BIOS updates that nearly eliminated the issue. Still happens from time to time. The original issue caused random, intermittent USB disconnects pretty much constantly. When I first built my machine, it was so irritating I kept mine muted as well
As Windows progressed through the various versions in the 90's and early 2000's, they just seemed to be improving and 'piggy backing' off user prior learning and intuition. Ever since Windows 95, it just seems as though changes have been made just to undo any previous experience level and bring the user back to square one. I was also confused by the reason for some of the dramatic changes to the 'Office' programs. Things that use to be so simple now seem difficult. Why is that?
I remember and miss when computers had a steep but rewarding learning curve. Now it’s just pure “less is less and people will still buy it” garbage that even Pokémon is doing.
this is literally what i just said.. windows 95 made sense.. what the heck is any of this new stuff? its all over the place.. oh you want to adjust your reolution well thats over here.. you want to change your screen colors well thats over in this other category.. you want to adjust your frame rate well thats over here.. you want a screen saver? that doesnt exist..
Just install Linux Mint. It comes with Libre Office and Firefox. Everything is dead simple. Mint feels a lot like Windows XP. Mint is completely free. However, Linux gets frustrating as heck if you try to game, stream or install proprietary software.
They have to change it so they can pretend like they have not been selling the same OS for 30 years. Arbitrary changes to the UI is how they make you think it is new. That's why I like Linux. Gnome pissing you off try cinnamon. It is unlikely on Linux that there is not a desktop environment that is not to your liking
Always fun to take a look into the Windows world. Thanks for sharing your experiences. It's more than 5 years since I'm not working with windows systems anymore and it seems to be a good decision. I don't think that I ever switch back from Linux to Windows. But it's nice to have a small view in the struggles you still face by using Windows. It's really reassuring. Thanks =)
Well, I would too, if it actually was capable of doing all those things I can / want to do in Windows. Let's be serious: The Office suite is the de facto standard everywhere. Stay away with Libre Office. It may work for some tasks, but if you don't want to print out those documents to have others (without LO) read them: Good luck with the formatting. Word and Writer just don't harmonize. Gaming: There are steps in the right direction, but not all games I own can run on Linux or you can't install them in a smooth, relatively hassle-free way. Adobe Suite: Not usable without emulators / virtual machines etc. (Stay away with GIMP and its interface of hell) Music Programs: Same with all the other software, that has no dedicated Linux version. So don't get me wrong: Linux is great for programming and basic tasks like playing back music, browsing the web, receiving mails, doing office stuff etc. and on top of it most of it is completely free to use and I think that's fantastic! (I also have Linux in my dual boot options.) But if you want to do anything beyond that, it get's rather complicated or impossible.
yep, sadly i need windows because of office and adobe software. luckily there are lite and compact pirat win versions that removes useless stuff and makes it more similar to Linux.
I'm using Windows10 Pro, absolutely love it, won't be upgrading to Windows 11 anytime soon, government are trying to be more environmentally friendly yet tech companies force people to upgrade. It's a complete waste, I had my laptop built by PC Specialist 5 years ago, I'll upgrade it again when I want to Excellent video, keep them coming
I miss windows XP. You could run anything on that system. I even still have the "Photo Suite 4" disk that came with it. What a great great program that was. It would sort of run on windows 7, but windows 10 won't even recognize it. I'm sure windows 11 won't run older software either.
I grew up with XP and I miss it sorely. I, you and others I'm sure, would rather stick with Windows 7 than 10 or 11. Windows 7 looked beautiful, 10 and 11, bland, boring and lazy. I am moving into Linux, I suggest you do the same as well. I do not use windows as often as I used to. I recommend Linux Mint with the Cinnamon Desktop Environment which reminds me of Windows 7. XFCE and MATE Desktops remind me more of XP, I bet to some it reminds them of Windows 95 and 98. You have a bit of learning to do with Linux but you will have fun. Which reminds me of when using Windows XP to 7 was fun.
Hi! Your bug is mostly likely a result of enhanced sleep in the registry. One of your devices is being constantly waken up and put to sleep. You will have to go in the registry and tweak the value to 0. Hope that helps!
Thanks for making this list, appreciate the service. More choice is always better (obviously with the caveat that the presentation of the choices shouldn't overwhelm the end user). I'm getting pretty tired of Microsoft arbitrarily taking away configuration options/choices that they already have the code for. I realize that new versions of software are architected differently and are written in light of new programming trends. However a design principle could be, 'don't take away the old choices, just offer new ones as the default and give the choice to use the old config option'. I've been putting off Windows 11 and will continue to do so. Might be one of those seasons where I just go live in Linuxland for a while till things get set right again.
Agree with you on pretty much everything. I got a 12900K and decided to put Windows 11 on it because of the scheduler for the cpu. I have luckily not had major bugs, but there are a few here and there I notice. But certain changes they have made, or things they have removed, are just weird. Changes are either a weird sidestep you have to learn, or things you used are just gone. Win11 feels totally unnecessary to me. I recommend not upgrading until people start talking positively about it.
The only thing that looks good is the newer GUI....and significant memory management improvements the handle apps. It is much smoother than windows 10. Otherwise they made extra step to get into some setting menus.
I love this review. He says so much of what I have been complaining about for several generations of Windows. It's almost as if Microsoft tries to fail at developing a better OS. Being in IT, Windows has simply gotten worse each time. Granted there are a couple of things that are better but that's rare 💯 Thanks for the excellent "hate" review 👍🏻😅
It hasn't, this is just a video with a bunch of nitpicks and doesn't bother looking at any actually bad things about the OS. 99% of the video is nothing that any user, other than people who still thinks that windows XP is the best OS ever, will ever care about.
Absolutely true! There's a fix for the inability to easily change defaults coming soon. But I think it was done on purpose to move as many people over the Edge as possible. I'd happily use Edge if it didn't have that useless search engine Bing. Every time I accidentally use it, it just returns fake websites and dodgy links instead of whatever I was looking for.
I would never use Edge because Microsoft had made it to be as inflexible as possible. Like with Windows, I want to customize things to my personal taste and Edge, like Chrome and Windows 11, is the opposite.
-Windows 7 (windows 7 was amazing and is probably my favorite windows to date. The widgets they had were amazing which they took away) -Windows XP (would XP was very very stable and just works) -Windows 10 (I have grown to like it with destroy spying blockers and other customization. I have used it as my daily driver for years now) -Windows 11 (I have installed this on an SD card i have made a portable install using Rufus. What I HATE: There are a TON of steps to make it usable and productive. -The extra steps on the right click they added to the context menu is idiotic -How long it takes to make an application a default application -The stock launcher is not intuitive (I have installed startisback11 to make this better) -Windows Defender which you cannot just uninstall or permanently disable without going into the registry (this has been the forced virus protection since windows 10 and I hate it) -There are many more extra steps you have to take to re-enable features and settings that Microsoft thought it would be good to change. -There is software and guides to help you with fixing it WHAT I DO LIKE: -It seems snappy -Refreshed UI -Gives you the ability to run Android applications (I have the full Google play store installed on mine and magisk rooted which is amazing and very cool
Nice, thanks for taking the time. I'm thinking this will be a typical "skip version" for me. I do not appreciate the direction with the UEFI, yet again more clicks to get where you need (assuming you can still pop powershell and call whatever but you still need to learn the new syntax) and I SURE AS HELL hate not being able to move the task bar to the left/right. On my 4K panel (3840x2160), which dimension has more pixels to burn? Here's a hint, it's not 2160 .... Keep ''em coming man.
"On my 4K panel (3840x2160), which dimension has more pixels to burn?". i love that sentence. You're thinking with actual logic man, all that is out the window in this case :P I wish the people in charge were as logical as you are :P edit: just think of the process to change your default browser to chrome.. logic completely out the window
Here’s another: I like to right click on the taskbar and choose task manager maybe to kill a process or something. It’s not there now. You only get it when you right click on the start button so now I need to retrain my reflexes how I do this. I also like the right click and go to “send to “and as you pointed out you have to go to more options to get to that now. What they also changed in that manner is properties. For 20 years we’ve been right clicking on something and going to the bottom of the pop-up menu to get to Properties, and now it’s halfway down. Why? Why don’t they just leave it alone? At least alt plus enter still gets us there.
@@LazloNQ I remembered that I've been on the Windows 11 Insider Preview version where I can submit feedback. I just submitted the three things I mentioned above. Would be interesting if it actually changed. My reasoning was, these tasks are admin stuff we've been doing and to change it for NO GOOD REASON slows us down, not to mention we will still be working on Win10/8/7 machines, so having to deal with both when we have a stack of issues to fix is not a good user experience. I told Microsoft I'd rather go back to Win 10 in that case. I don't think anything will come of it but it was nice getting to fuss at them for what it's worth!
I 'upgraded' as soon as I got my new laptop (i7 processor) - I very quickly realised that there was something seriously wrong with it. The new layout stinks, as do the sounds, it was laggy, the screen froze or went 'fuzzy', the colours were dark, images were blurred ... I complained to the vendor that they had sold me a dud, but they said that I should change back to W10 and everything would be fine, as they had had lots of similar complaints. They were right. I don't think I'll be going back.
I completely agree with you about the control panel disappearing. Finding it very annoying. I'm totally raging out on the menus being so short and having to make the extra clicks. I mean, they made what I normally use all the time one extra click, but still throughout my work day, or even at home. It's an Extra cliques. However, my biggest problem right now is my menus will stop working 6 to 7 times a day. The menu will open up just fine. However, it will not allow you to click on anything in that menu.. This is not just the start menu, but all menu. I wind up having to use Alt F4. In order to restart my machine so that I can continue working. Very frustrating. Driving me absolutely bonkers.
I stayed with Windows 10 and customized my taskbar & start menu using Open-Shell to look and function like the ones that Windows XP/7 had. It took a good bit of thinkering for sure, but when I finally got things up and running, my God is the interface so much better to deal with. Not to mention faster and snappier too. Because Windows 10, even though it's an okay operating system, has gotten even worse performance-wise as time goes by. And one of my biggest gripe with the OS is that it always has this sticky feel or slight milisecond delay to it whenever you click on the start menu or open up the horrendous Settings menu. This usually happens when you install the OS on a mechanical HDD and not an SSD so, for those who are still using HDDs or couldn't afford to upgrade to SSDs, this small annoyance can definitely suck. But Open-Shell fixed that for me and I couldn't have been happier. With that said, I don't think I would ever want to go back to using the oversimplified vanilla Windows 10 start-menu ever again. Let alone using the one in Windows 11.
Yes you def need to install on an SSD and even then for some strange reason every third or fourth time you boot up everything is laggy until you reboot and my PC is a veritable monster.
Same, I did a whole reskin of my college Windows 10 laptop to look like XP the moment I got it. I got RetroBar to replace the taskbar and have that run on startup, I used OpenShell to change the Start Menu to XP/7 style (and now I ACTUALLY USE the Start Menu quite frequently, I never used the Windows 10 start menu, it was too inconvenient and convoluted for anything I might need a Start Menu for), and I changed a lot of icons, all the sound effects, added a full custom Luna theme, re-installed all the legacy Windows apps and games using Winero Tweaker (also got 3D Pinball because you need that) as well as added the Bliss wallpaper because why not? While everything else was purely for the cosmetics and sound, the taskbar and Start Menu changes actually made a significant practical difference too and are so much nicer now! I also debloated a lot of things too. And turned off Windows animations for further authenticity but also the occasional lag they have is aggravating.
Thanks for the 'heads up' on Windows 11. I'm currently hanging on to my Windows 10 with a Shell program that lets my PC desktop look and function like Windows 7. I've managed to cut off all updates from Microsoft as well.....in self-defense of course. The last upgrade/update from Microsoft wiped my PC clean of all files, games, programs, pictures, documents, settings, desktop icons.....Nothing left but a few empty file folders, Windows 10 and a smiley face. (Shudder) That was a nightmare I wouldn't wish on anyone. So......Windows 11? No thanks Microsoft. I'll just sit back and watch until things smooth out a bit. Maybe they'll work out the glitches in five years or so. Maybe. :)
I like your logic. But I read something, last month. That win 10 will stop getting security updates this winter. Was that article just a load of horseshit? I dunno. How bad is it to continue online without security updates? i dunno. Seem like, if I keep some kind of anti-virus going, then it would be good? I mean, I think ATM machines still run xp. So no patches can't be that bad? well, maybe. i dunno.
Windows 11 reminds me too much of an old KDE build I used on Fedora Core many years ago. I just know that lots of older people won't be able to adapt to it and things have been broken for no reason. At least on Windows 10 the Start button is where you'd expect to find it. This sounds like a similar car crash to the original Windows 8, and I'll bet we'll see silliness like Windows 11.1 or Windows 11 Second Edition to fix all this stuff.
Well I'm just a beginner in the world of PC's and operating systems. I've referred to TH-cam video's a lot lately especially with Windows 11. I have enjoyed your video's immensely. It be nice if you do something for older computers that have 775 socket motherboards. Yes that's right I do have a gigabyte GA G31 Motherboard. Be nice to see how to bypass secure boot,TPM and CPU compatibility checks to get this system to work so I wouldn't have to replace my motherboard and CPU to a compatible system for Windows 11. Keep the video's coming. Chris Z
There are so many usablility issues that have already been fixed in the current Insider builds (Start menu, default browser, flyouts, etc). The current release builds weren't ready for release and now it's feature frozen till the end of this year from what I understand, gonna leave a bad taste for a lot of people. They really need to backport the important changes like setting default browser and start menu changes.
> The current release builds weren't ready for release and now it's feature frozen till the end of this year from what I understand If that's the case that is absolutely unacceptable from a company like Microsoft. At least Apple knows how to release updates, and that is coming from a pc user of two decades typing on a MacBook.
@@rommix0 From what I understand the "next major version of Windows 11" won't be around till 2022 H2 still. They stopped doing feature updates every 6 months like Windows 10 had. Saying that, I have seen some articles saying they are considering releasing a feature update earlier in the year indepentent of the 22H2 update.
Thanks for bringing up the CPU issue. I've got an i7 7700k and I'm not willing to build a new computer just to run win 11 properly right now. The requirement of having a Microsoft account is also a deal breaker for me.
You don’t need a Microsoft account if you’re already on a local account from Windows 10 + with one simple registry key you can bypass the requirements, although the fact that these requirements exist…
u are never required to upgrade a pc to play around with win11 until win10 has full driver and security updates there is no need for anyone to upgrade, a this point i think even linux is better option than win11
i have win11 running on the same cpu i7 7700k runs really nice pretty much the same as win 10 speed wise but with more features or bloat depending on your viewpoint.
Rather keep your i7 and wait until 2025 to upgrade because Microsoft will have probably released windows 12 by then. "Windows 10 will be the last windows version" they said. Pathetic.
I've been using a third party Windows 7 style start menu since Windows 10 came out, and I rely on windows search more than I ever had with previous operating systems because it's so much easier than searching through things in "settings". Control panel still exists, but they are moving more and more shit into settings and adding dozens of needless clicks. I spent several hours getting my computer windows 11 ready and then decided not to do it, and I'm glad I did.
@@lonniebeal6032 This is not about computer performance.It's about a lot of third party programs, utilities, compatible theme patches, reconfiguring registries, putting together a nice new rainemeter layout, etc...
I think you've summed up my early frustrations with Windows 11 when I bought a new lap top the other year, especially the extra clicking which just wastes time and is fiddly.
Great video, new subscriber here! I'm still running Windows 10 (21H1) and have a brand new self-built gaming rig with a Asus Dark Hero mb, a Ryzen 9 5950X cpu, an EVGA RTX 3080 FTW3 gpu, 64GB of DDR4, etc... and will NOT be downgrading to the train wreck that is Windows 11. I absolutely hate everything about it. Far, far worse than I disliked the idea of moving from Win7 to 8, 8.1 and 10. Windows 10 has grown on me. I actually LIKE the live tiles, for several reasons. And I like being able to customize my TB as well, of course! So... I'll be staying with 10 until either support ends for it, they radically improve 11 or I switch over to another os.
Thank you for bringing up "excessive clicks" ...I mean so many fricking applications require additional clicking for accessing basis things. It's exhausting. AND eats away time. ...and the bloatware 🤯🤯🤯 I fricking despise Microsoft for putting so much crap on my workhorse. Seabiscuit was forced to run with excessive impounds (carrying weights in addition to a jockey) but my laptop shouldn't be forced to do that while I am doing business every day.
@@CyberCPU I just want to point out regarding Bloatware. All windows versions that had Windows for Education build have its means of having mostly clean Windows as legal req for not haveing distracting and non educational applications embed. Would like to see bloatware comparison of Education version vs Pro Version?
You are so damn right. Microsoft is trying to ruin their OS since after Windows XP. The only solution is to make XP support the latest hardware we have today. Don't wait for Microsoft to do a good OS anymore, they will struggle hard to make it worse.
Windows 7 is great if you know how to low-jack it. In fact, I prefer 7 after learning the ins and outs. Microsoft can take 8,8.1,10 and 11 and shove 'em. =P
The taskbar was my deal breaker. My hardware already worked for it. Until I got Start11 from Stardock, I couldn't productively stay in Windows 11. I can't combine taskbar icons and multitask efficiently. I still don't see the why of the upgrade as Windows 10 is still working fine and fast. I don't hate 11 anymore, though. I figured out pretty quickly how to set defaults and turn off what I don't want, but they don't make it easy. I agree 100% on the excessive clicks. The only reason I haven't tweaked that is because, as a tech, I need to (mostly) see what the user is seeing. You're dead on on what's wrong with it.
I gave Win 11 an honest chance, it was my daily driver for a couple months. And like this video, there's about a hundred annoyances I'd encounter every day that just got more and more irritating to have to work around (like the extra clicks and inability to un-group task bar items). One intermittent bug was so bad that the cursor on the screen was off-set a half inch from where the it was actually clicking. How did they mess up something as basic as the Cursor position mapping!? I had to revert to Windows 10. Hopefully some Win 11 R1 comes out soon that fixes all these issues.
A few things I don't like about Windows 11: 1) You cannot group app icons into folders like you could on the Windows 10 start menu. 2) When Microsoft simplified the toolbar & right-click menu in Windows Explore they took away a useful feature: move to & copy to which is used to move files on your PC. 3) Setting the default program or browser is more difficult on Windows 11 then 10. They should have left the same. 4) Widgets don't have third party support and cannot be put on the desktop
Widgets will eventually disappear like they have after every other attempt to introduce this concept to Windows. Nobody needs or wants them and like live tiles they end up just being overrun by advertisements and clickbait news stories.
They do make such a version of Windows. You can buy it, too. All you need to do first is create a corporation with thousands of employees who will each have their own Windows PC. Then you will be allowed to buy Windows Enterprise version. What could be more simple? 😃
Good news: they exist. Bad news: they're not for you. Most iterations are either for enterprises that wouldn't buy regular Windows due to security concerns or are supposed to be sold only for embedded systems.
Great video. Well-presented, and I agree with all. Microsoft has been dumbing down Windows for years, throwing its more PC-literate users under the bus as it makes its OS more marketable to newbies and dumdums. Sigh.
Hate to bring it up but simplifying things for new users is not a bad thing. People should be able to use their OS and feel like they can actually do stuff with it instead of having to constantly call on someone else to teach them. That isn't the issue. The issue is Microsoft removing features instead of properly streamlining them. Instead of leaving things in that people who know what they're doing can still make use of properly, they remove them entirely so that new or inexperienced users can avoid being "inconvenienced" thereby inconveniencing everyone. They seem to be under the impression that streamlining the experience means taking out the more complex parts of the OS entirely or hiding them from view instead of... I dunno, making them easier to use and understand. Yet then they bloat the system with unnecessary applications for convenience's sake. Never mind that you could just teach the user organically that they can get TikTok from the Microsoft Store, they need to FORCE IT DOWN THEIR THROAT in the Start menu because people are "too stupid" to be relied upon to use the most widespread and used OS on the market. So it's not that they're appealing to the newbies and "dumdums" they just seem to think everyone who uses the product has learning disabilities and shouldn't be trusted with navigating their OS on their own for fear they may break their house windows by clicking on them too much or plug living rodents into their USB ports. And don't even get me started on "motherboards" and RAM. ... It's like waterboarding but with... well you get the gist.
My biggest problem with W10 and 11 is that they're slowly wrestling away control. Forcing updates, online accounts, telemetry, etc etc. They know if they do it slowly enough people will accept it. Nearly all those people who have said they will stop using windows if they need an online account will continue to use windows when they require an online account.
It's sad when you need 3rd party applications in order to customize things in new versions of Windows that older versions of Windows offered by default. I absolutely HATE grouping of taskbar tasks. So many older folks can't figure that out and they automatically think that their window just vanished into oblivion and they don't realize they have to just hover over the icon and it'll show their lost window in its stupid grouping feature. That is one of the first things I disable in Windows for most people. Other than that, I can't even use Windows the "official" way because none of my computers will run it by default, even though my main PC would be more than powerful enough to do so.
I too have used Windows since 3.1 (and DOS/DR-DOS before). When Win10 came along, I didn't like it, but I have become accustomed to it, and prefer the look and feel of it now. I believe it performs better, but perhaps that is me being gullible. This review made me smile, as I haven't seen any big issues to make me think the whole thing sucks, although I agree with the points you are making. In my opinion, the big thing that needs sorting is the ability for processes to take ~100% of a resource (over the years I have become incredibly annoyed with the "it's incompatible driver" comment). I can't understand how they can't programmatically protect a system so it is always usable. As for the minimum requirements, I totally understand why MS would want to have a modern OS which is secure as possible. I have assumed the requirements are all to do with TPM 2.0 rather than the processing power of a CPU, or having UEFI. TBH I haven't really read much about the subject, but I understand that it is only the newer CPUs that provide TPM 2.0. That all said, if older CPUs are not suitable, fork off this more secure version, and maintain both. BTW I installed Win11 on my Pavilion x360. After some time, I wanted to backup a bunch of directories to my NAS ...and it kept failing to copy files. The absolute basic function for a file explorer, other than being able to navigate through your directories and files. After seeing complaints on the internet, I decided to roll back ...only to find that it was limited to 10days, which had passed!!!! Seriously?!?!?!? I had to rebuild my disk ....with no backup of the files!! WHY??????????????????????????????????????????
Now that I think about it, you're absolutely right. "The computer is extremely slow" shouldn't be a thing anymore. It should be the application is extremely slow. Thats definitely something they can improve on from 10. Besides that, I suppose making the search faster and event viewer faster would be great too. A better recovery console would be awesome as well, but I wouldn't hold my breath for that.
Windows 11 home (mistake) I would like to add OneDrive to the complaint list. It is labeled as an "App", but it is ridiculously difficult to remove if you decide you don't want it on your system. On my computer, it came pre-installed, and was duplicating my data to my fast 256GB SSD instead of the 1TB data drive. I have a lot of "data" and discovered the pathing issue when I noticed my OS drive was ~80% full. I know some people like OD, but I simple have no use for it. Simple, just uninstall it - or so I thought. Nope
Most of these are fine for me. I have Windows 11 on my laptop when I go to campus. But as someone who is frequently downloading files and moving them onto my flashdrive because I prefer physical storage over cloud. The lack of drag and drop is a deal-breaker. I miss being able to take my file from downloads, go to the task bar, hover over the minimized window I want, have the window pop up, then drop it in the window. Instead I have to pull up both windows, change their sizes so I have both on screen, then start drag and dropping. Then I have to minimize and maximize the apps again. Which again, more clicks than necessary for drag and drop. And I use my laptop in tablet mode frequently. So for something being more "touch intuitive" Why can't I drag and drop like every other touch device I own?
Windows 11 requires you to have the ability to enable secure boot. You need a GPT partition on a UEFI BIOS. You don't actually have to enable secure boot.
@@WigWoo1 Secure boot has some value against root kits. I don't necessarily recommend turning it off but just find it ironic that Windows 11 doesn't require it to be enabled.
Lol, when it first launched I was notified that I could upgrade. I said, "oh sure, what the hell." Then it ran it's test and told me that despite my CPU being an i7 running at 4.4ghz, my CPU wasn't supported. and I thought, "huh, that's weird.". Now seeing this, I'm so happy it rejected my CPU.
My Windows 11 experience lasted 5 minutes, the time it took to realize that the over 5,000 folders of pictures looked all the same and there's no option to restore the Folder.jpg thingy. Sure, I could use a third-party explorer, but screw that, I thought that this was an improvement!
I can't imagine what you could possibly like about Windows 11? The insert audio bug is rare in 10, but I have always seen it caused by power management of USB hubs or devices. Does disabling power management fix the bug?
For Me. my favorite was Windows XP. we had so many issues with Win 2K and Windows ME. XP was the OS we should have gotten. came packed with drivers that worked, that you only had to occasionally get a manufacturers driver. WIdows 7 was good, but definitely had a lot of bugs, mainly between the OS and Office. I skipped 7 and went to 8.2. upgraded to 10. 10 works fantastic and there was no need for Windows 11 this soon. They just need to make more $$$
The "Recommended" section of the start menu might be a menu similar to iOS where it suggests 4 apps you might want to open at a given time. The OS does this by learning what apps and files you use at specific times/places each day. So for instance, if I checked my iPhone as I pulled up to a McDonalds I frequent, it would recommend the McDonalds app. I would suspect that's what this section is for. That said, Microsoft is leagues behind Apple when it comes to cognitive computing and virtual assistants, so it probably just doesn't work how it should anyways.
i agree with you a problem is computer/desktop are different than phone, microsoft wanted to make windows are part of every tech ecosystem os from dekstop to phone and that not gonna work u see if someone have a phone and desktop they tend to put they really private secret stuff at desktop than phone since phone everyone can reach it cuz for sure people this day bring phone everywhere i know phone put plenty security in there already but people more safer to put they file on desktop or laptop since its bulky or hard to lose than phone , im actually fed up with new explorer quick access since it work same as recommended stuff at windows 11 its show up what did u do what file or program last use is basically dox you to everyone who touch ur desktop and this shit need to stop good shit im removing those thing
Fully agree with you. Windows 11 is aimed at pushing sales of "New" hardware. 2nd Gen i5 & i7 processors should be able to run Windows 11 perfectly. I'm still happy running Windows 10 on my AMD FX 8 core system that I have for a decade now, and it's running perfectly still.
I haven't watched the 'things you love about Windows 11 one yet, but even 'just these few' downsides are plenty for me to tell M$ to go suck a big one for the time being and I'll keep using Windows 10 until either they get their act together, or I am literally forced to switch, because for now, it just seems like yet another one of those unfinished products, that they tried to shove down the user's throat. Well, either that, or maybe wait for Windows 12, to be the redeeming version, as that still seems to be the M$ trend. Good, bad, good, bad, good, more bad, etc., etc.
You dont have to upgrade even if MS force you to it. There is ways to stop/crash the update and make windows restore the old files again. There is also alternatives to windows you can use. Have gone through my WW3 with microsoft and im tired of it, i told them to F*ck off and removed windows completly. Using a alternative OS as a primary system and i use windows as a "burner OS" aka its all trash and can be reinstalled anytime i feel like it.. no personal accounts or anything important on it
There are ways to get around the hardware restraints of Windows 11 but I have chosen to go to a Linux operating system on some older PCs. There are hardware restraints with Linux as well which include what printer or wireless dongle you use.
@@BetaMaster2 yes. Printer manufacturers all have Windows drivers but don't necessarily have Linux drivers. My older HP printer and new wireless HP printer don't have drivers that work with Linux. My guess is if I had purchased an HP printer that attaches directly to my Linux PC it would have worked.
I hella agree with that point about settings. I find way too many times when I'm troubleshooting I sometimes sit there playing with the settings menu until I inevitably get frustrated and open the control panel to get it done.
every time i see a Win11 video and the system in action, it makes me even more sure that i'll NEVER willingly use this garbage unless i absolutely have to upgrade. they turned a perfectly functional computer from 7 and 8.1 to a kids first fischer price toy with this new version of windows. it drives me nuts as a designer the quantity of designer sins this thing has, but the worst of all is the sound suite. it is ridiculously soft and annoying. not every sound needs to be that way. if a bug happens, i want a hard crunch to know something has gone wrong not a "oopsie doopsie" sound this garbage does.
theres light programs you can get to customize the look completely, imo best version of windows if you set it up right. i pirated phoenix lite build and it runs on my 6th gen intel games the best and it looks like windows7 with the startallback program
Windows 7 was still my favorite. It was the sweet blend between old configurable windows, and new find stuff fast windows.
yeah, despite lesser security, windows 7 was awesome
Still using it thx to modders
Long live Windows Media Center
I am still in wind 7, a good antivirus, and no more porn sites. So far, so good.
@@macblink
I've been hearing the cries of lessened security in Windows 7 for what is now more than 2 years and, let's try to be logical on this, the argument does not make sense
W7 was actively updated for over 10 years. Any security holes have been locked down tighter than Fort Knox, and any hole they missed is something they had no intention of patching out and therefore probably also still exists in more recent versions of Windows and/or was intentionally introduced to create a vulnerability (which being Microsoft I can easily imagine them doing)
so, less security? Compared to what?
For me, Windows 11 is a proof that whoever develops or make decision for new product at Microsoft either never actually use Windows , or only uses it to browse youtube.
Windows 11 is just a blatant Chrome OS ripoff. They didn't "develop" anything, they are just trying to look like Chrome Books, so noobs will buy it.
No man, MS people know selling OS is not as profitable as selling user data. Without the account-based activities or the browser, MS will lose every battle with google.
Maybe the result of diversity hiring? We'll never know.
Who are the people on the insider program and what do they do that would make them think this is better
Wouldnt be surprised if MS has been infiltrated by Mac fanboys
I've owned an IT business for 20 years and I really appreciate guys like you who take the time to make videos like this. You have a gift for making this type of content and although this is my first video, I've subscribed and look forward to watching your other content.
would you outsource your process, as i have an IT biz too in India
Hey Jeff you hit it out the park. I am unhappy with this upgrade and looking to uninstall windows 11.
And this is why I've been researching Linux recently... Ive battles windows 10 down to a bearable state but I'm not dealing with it again for 11, especially if they are removing customization and efficiency so they can lazily port their os to tablets
Linux sucks. It is only good for programming
One look at it and I decided I’ll not upgrade. They’re trying too hard to become MacOS. I choose windows because I appreciate the traditional start menu that they got right over two decades ago. The problem is that they’re trying to reinvent the wheel. Windows XP, Windows 7, and Windows 10 were all done right. What reason would they have for forcing their browser and other services on their users?
Exactly!
Well i think you fail to realize for one that Windows 10 and 11 were free for the first time. and if you forgot EVERY version of windows came with BS bloat and adverts like Microsoft office icons that were just shortcuts to install the programs that you had to pay extra for.
it's always funny the reluctance to change. In the Tech industry change never stops. Yes 11 has some really stupid crap in it but the start menu because of what they have done to it since windows 7 it's become nothing more then a search bar for everything . the icons in the menu pointless completley.
Most of the UI designers at Microsoft use macOS.
@@KShedTech Change in the tech industry is why we’re going to see companies like Microsoft lose their way and become irrelevant like Facebook and the “Metaverse” soon will be. You can only optimize so much and at some point all you’re doing is moving backwards.
to be honest, i like the design of Windows 11, so i upgraded my pc to windows 11. im happy with it for now but they'll never become a MacOS if they continue making these types of windows versions. honestly, they stole much from MacOS, im not trying to be rude to Microsoft, i really like the work that they do, but Windows 11 is not a Windows version for me, they tried changing the Windows with windows 8 but they were unsuccessful, i don't know why are they trying to do that again. the reason why i downloaded Windows 11 is my familiarity with MacOS design, but yea if you like Windows's style this version is clearly not for you.
"Do you love Windows 11?" Oh, sure! I love how Microsoft takes 1 step forward and 5 steps backwards with every new version of Windows starting with Windows 8... When are they going to learn that we don't want Mobile styled features on a PC? When?
it seems like "every other" version of windows is good... Windows 2000.. yes... Windows me.. NO.. windows XP.. yes ... Windows Vista.. NO.. windows 7.. yes... Windows 8.... NO.. windows 10.... yes... windows 11... NO
(btw i actually loved 8 and 10 tablet mode but i had a tablet pc so)
but but, the numbers says you all love phones
@@thebeatles9 WIn10 is honestly NO as well
@@thebeatles9 i still use windows me in on of my vintage pc, its my fastest booting pc and this thing is way more reliable for me than win98se, windows 2000 came in the same time than me
@@mmoarchives2542 "dont you guys have phones?"
What made Windows so amazing to start was how intuitive it was. Almost anyone could suddenly navigate and be productive on a computer. With the later versions, that intuitiveness has steadily decreased.
That was one of my complaints, plus how Windows gradually made changes to the OS behavior that became more authoritarian. Win10, for instance, would not allow me to control updates the way I wanted them. Some things were made more difficult. Now, my favorite (Win7) can't be authenticated on my new PC, so I'm off to Linux -- the land of freedom and productivity.
@@RodMartinJr Compared to Windows 10, windows 7 just seemed better organized too. I could easily get to for example the devices and printers in 2 clicks, without searching! Also safe mode was easier to use. I am still confused why they made safe mode harder to use. I just don't get that.
@@jackkraken3888 I think it's blind certainty. When some kinds of people become certain they have the "right" answer, they stop looking. Thomas Sowell called them the "anointed" -- those with the "unconstrained vision" of the world (and he was not being kind). I, too, was not being kind in my book, *_Dumb Geniuses: How intelligence is sometimes its own worst enemy_* (hardcover, paperback, ebook)
I actually think it's the controller problem with consoles. So the NES had 8 buttons, and a ton of people found that easy and comforting, and they complained when it became over 16, but games have to do more things than they did at first and so does Windows. For instance, OG Windows didn't have to work nearly identically on several different classes of computer systems.
@@jackkraken3888 it was. UI-wise, Windows 7 was the sweet spot. Not that certain things in Win10 and 11 aren't pretty. but overall, they are just... plainer. More "white box" and boring. More "samey". Which sounds odd to say as every fresh install of any Windows version looks identical to all the other fresh copies of that version. But still, Windows 7 had character and configurability You could really make it your own, and after 10+ years of support, it worked fantastically. Because of all this, and despite it still being very firmly grounded in the 32 bit world, it was and is still the all time most popular version of Windows, ever.
Everything since then has been a disappointment.
I like my Windows 10 (I liked 7, and liked XP back in the day too). It's snappy, easy to navigate, customizable, and I keep my Start Menu organized with my most used apps clasified in tile groups (productivity, games, audio production, etc...) so depending on the work I'm doing, I can get to them quickly. The task bar is movable and keeps its icons and tray at the corners, away from your center of attention (the way it should be). The new taskbar and Start Menu could be the main reason I'll skip Win11. Windows 11 is taking away the features I like most about Windows (and bringing up stuff similar to things that I hate about macOS).
I don't want a macOS/iOS, I want a Windows.
I've been playing with the developer preview and I plan to do a video on it soon. Many of those things have been changed. You can now group icons and some of the task bas functionality has been restored.
...exactly my thoughts.
XP was the best...
I dont even like 10, i used all the time in my moms notebook and i fucking hate it and 11 seems to be more of the same or worse.
same. Only upgraded to 10 a few months ago and it was a real game changed. problem is i had to buy a new laptop which has window 11... why did they change everything that was great about 10?
It amazes me how for each edition of Windows all but the most brainless tasks have become progressively more difficult. I can just about tolerate the level of bullshit in Windows 10. I don't see myself "upgrading" to 11 any time soon, if ever.
@Jack Sparrow nah, we'll stick to our OS and pre-built PC'S and screw hackintosh
@Jack Sparrow When you think Windows can't get any worse, there's always Mac OS to surprise you how garbage an OS can get.
@@rumble1925 I had to use Mac at College and the floating windows thing I found very confusing. Like they wouldn't dock to full-screen and it seemed to be arbitrary which toolbar was active. Quite alien to me. Also having the file saving incompatibility issue with my home PC.
@@rumble1925 What do you think makes mac os better is it the lack of support for most application/games or is it just the limitation in the OS itself?
@@rumble1925 Professional use Windows and Linux.
Win 7 was a masterpiece. I don't know why Microsoft is making their operating systems look like cell phones with bloatware and piracy. It's all about them and not the customers period!
One software to rule them all lmao, aka touch screens and tablets ect
Yeh I loved Windows 7 I hated being forced off of it and now soon we will be forced again........ffs I thought it was me paying for my equipment and I thought I owned it but apparently not lol
Yes I agree. Which is why I'm still using it. Will move to linux before I go to Windows 11.
trying to make it more touch friendly for tablets i think is the way to go,because everything is become just more mobile,just need to trim it down and remove the bloatware ,most people will install the popular apps if need be,not to be forced to have it
Yes, windows 7 and windows 10 were the best. In my experience, Windows 10 is the most stable Windows I used, But windows 7 looks better.
My unpopular opinion will be to bring back the old shutdown/restart style from windows XP. Much easier to see imo.
From the announcement of Win11 to today, I can't get rid of the message that my "computer can't run Windows 11."
Thanks, Microsoft. It's getting to the point that my Personal Computer (PC) just isn't personal anymore, but they're taking steps to MAKE it personal with their users by changing everything those users loved about previous iterations of Windows.
He said that he doesn't like the stringent hardware requirements for win11. I do, it means I won't have to deal with the sneaky forced upgrade crap we had to deal with for win8. I won't be upgrading until I get a new pc, so probably like 4yrs from now.
@@morgan5941 By then Win 12 will be out which will fix all the "issues" which Win 11 has created - You do know that only alternate versions of MS products are any good 😂
You shouldn't be bitching. Instead, thank microsoft - it just gave you another (like it's needed) reason to switch to Linux.
my machines run linux just fine however. and they dont sell my information, force my machine to call home, require an account to install the os, update changes i do not want, its not prone to viruses, and the list goes on. all my steam games run great under proton. its been win win. kubuntu and zorin os are good options, but there are many others you can watch on yt and try.
@@gracepierce1024 Correction: NO-WIN[dows] win.
Your channel is awesome to accurately and precisely present these issues while the mainstream couldn't be more clueless.
We truly live in times of complete deceit.
When Microsoft says the new CPU requirements are for "safety" that just translates to please upgrade to new CPUs that have better backdoors enabled for Klaus Schwab and frens in my mind.
Along with, please use your windows live creds to login to windows.
Yep. Not sure why everyone's mind jumps to only money rather than control.
I really think people forgot the Spectre and Meltdown vulnerabllity. I get and and I know it sucks but im pretty sure thats the cutoff going by the dates of the CPUs on that list. Maybe they just dont want to support CPUs that are easily exploitable without software patches. Windows live creds to login to windows though that's dumb and dont get it.
@@mastert2990 I gave them benefit of the doubt too but they are a trillion dollar industry in charge of half the computer industry and they can make up anything in order to gain more control.
you dont need new CPU, you need little encryption chip, you can literally buy from amazon
The lack of taskbar customization, waste of space in start menu, the extra clicks to find the option you want, and not all control panel items being accessible in settings are some of the most notable things that still makes me want to stay in Windows 10! I agree with every point you made, and until Microsoft fixes these issues, I'm staying on Windows 10. Heck, I would even go back to Windows 8.1, if some software developers like Elgato still supported pre-Windows 10 OS's.
I agree. It's the little things about Windows 11, but crucially those little things have a big effect on work productivity. My hope is that they will fix these issues at least in an update soon, then I'll happily upgrade. My ancient PC is unsupported but it's easy to bypass it and install!
I have one windows 10 comp and another running windows 11 and 10 is easily better. I've given 11 enough time to get used to it so I don't think it's bias to say that. Everything just feels more easily accesible in 10.
I would disagree to say Win11 is a bad OS. I think it's one of the best OSs I have used maybe after Win7. Yes it has quirks but it is definitely the biggest and best step in the right direction for Windows.
@@andrewmanyore9913 I mean it's a matter of preference at the end of the day. I prefer 10 to 7 personally. Though seven was pretty good imo.
@@andrewmanyore9913 Name literally one improvement
Just got my win 11 update notification again. Did a quick search. Found this video. Clicked "Stay on win 10 for now." I'll wait for windows 11 to become windows 10 before upgrading. Thanks for the video.
I am uploading to windows 11 right now
@@FunAngelo2005 good for you. It's the same exact thing just a bit prettier.
@@xLightcrystalx ok
They'll make a windows 11.1 just like they did with 8.
Wait!!. If Windows 10 works for you don't upgrade!!!. If something works don't touched, leave like this.
The main thing I cannot understand about these upgrades (if you can call them that) is why the user interface has become progressively less intuitive. Why do I have to search for basic system/device controls? And even after you find the right menu, you still have to wade through a long list of unclearly named topics or you may have to travel through a mess of additional sub-menus. It's a bloody mess.
Agreed, I call it nightmare 11 hate it so much
I loved control panel, it was like a proper command center, I was so lost when they changed it. Absolutely hate grouping of the icons too and can't imagine being unable to undo that!
Don't worry, enough tools will be available. I run on Win 10 and haven't tested the features of the new version Winaero (free/open source) That let's you pick options and settings that were removed from either XP, Vista, Win 7, Win 8. Another tool is called Windows Tweaker 5 for Win 11.
What you otherwise could use, for the time being or longer when you like it, is enable a sort God Mode. You will have all the settings in 1 place. You have to make a file without an extension and it will change to have the Control Panel icon. But I will post those steps in another comment, often TH-cam removes longer comments for spam alert I guess.
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GodMode is a special folder in Windows that gives you quick access to over 200 tools and settings that are normally tucked away in the Control Panel and other windows and menus.
Once enabled, GodMode lets you do all sorts of things, like quickly open the built-in disk defragmenter, view event logs, access Device Manager, add Bluetooth devices, format disk partitions, change display settings, update drivers, open Task Manager, adjust your mouse settings, show or hide file extensions, change font settings, rename the computer, and a lot more.
The way GodMode works is actually very simple: just name an empty folder on your computer as outlined below, and then instantly, the folder will turn into a super-handy place to change all sorts of Windows settings.
To do this, right-click or tap-and-hold on any empty space in any folder in Windows, and choose New > Folder. You need to make a new folder. not just use an existing folder that already has files and folders in it. If you proceed to Step 2 using a folder that already has data in it, all of those files will instantly become hidden, and while GodMode will work, your files will not be accessible.
When asked to name the folder, copy and paste this into that text box and then click away or press Enter: God Mode.{ED7BA470-8E54-465E-825C-99712043E01C}
Done. 3/3 Just be careful of course.
Actually, Control Panel is still there. Try typing it into the search bar.
It's still there, hit windows key + R (this opens the run box), type in control and hit enter. When control panel opens click "View by" (top right) and select small icons. Done. This is for Windows 10 and 11. Cheers.
15+ years in IT and very happy that they had those hardware requirements in place... because it kept me from getting this horrible OS. This push to limit your ability to change settings is frustrating. I guess its time to dust off the linux books and move to a real operating system.
With Linux Mint you hardly have to do anything that requires you to hit those books when it comes just to basic use.
@Linden Reaper Depends on the distro. All of your family uses Mint?
I work in It for 25 years, always microsoft minded. Now I use Linux Pop OS for most of my work. Give it a try, it works really smooth and looks real nice out of the box.
You can use Windows until 2025, but when a system is upgraded to Win 11, you really only have 11 days to decide if you want to revert it back. I reverted mine back once in January, but went back to Win 11 for I like the idea of ap support which has been wanted for years on PC, but I often have a case of disappearing task bar icons like browser icon preventing me from going back into it which is frustrating. Windows 10 was the very best version and 11 seems a bit off for I'm a bit confused that icons sometimes disappear and you can't personalize as much as you might like to on layout for I've tried already a few weeks ago.
@Linden Reaper Until things go wrong (your erstwhile know-how and years of experience sussing out and resolving problems, simply just knowing what and how, are not translatable/applicable). I know full-well Linux is and always has been the superior (Linux's shortcomings are a woeful lack of, until recently, software developer interest/support. Proprietary in particular); however, it even still is truly not for everyone. It's all well and good... until you encounter the uncommon issue... and find the user-to-user help base is much, much smaller than with Windows. When help's slow to come, if at all... you're well and truly it, as in the buck stops with you, when that happens. I am not looking forward to it, being in that hot seat (household admin; plex server too; now grateful I am not in IT professionally. I am no longer enjoying it, definitively since 10, truth be told. Never been more exhausted. 10's environment is like fighting quicksand, the whole time).
Add to this, it isn't truly a mere change in OS but nearly the entire software 'ecosystem' too (predominantly inferior alts to Office, Adobe, so on; no offense to anyone intended, but that's true).
Windows I know how to fix, no problem. But even for me it's now way too far gone (11's my worst nightmare: a mix of Vista and 8)... and I just don't know if I can actually successfully administrate/maintain Linux. (Damn M$ for all this). To my mind it's rather like if somebody only knows how to drive automatic and yet finds themselves having to operate a manual semi... (yes, I do see that Linux has gotten better, a lot; but still). >_
"No, I'm not gonna do it" has been my answer to Microsoft on pretty much every topic for the last 15 years. Starting to get fed up with Apple as well. "Make freedom cool again" is something I can certainly agree with!
Slogan used to be "Where Do You Want To Go Today?"
Now, it's ""What App do you want to download today?"
@@kiillabytez When I was 15 years old I stood in line, at midnight, at a computer store (can't remember which one, it shut down about 15 years ago) to buy Windows 95. That was probably peak Windows. It's been downhill ever since, and Windows is absolutely intolerable for me at work where literally everything I do runs on Linux. I probably spend 30% of my time trying to clean up after developers who are forced to use Windows when the end result always runs on Linux. Anyway, enough of my problems! Take care, buddy!
@@elcasey You must be thinking CompUSA. It was my got to store for quality PC parts at a bargain. Man, I miss that store.
So then you must be a Linux user like me? I started with Linux just late last year. After Apple //e, Macintosh Performa 600CD, Mac mini, Mac mini minus the optical drive which I had to add as a USB device, now a former decade-old Windows 7 PC mini-tower switched over to Linux. Maybe I am finally defecting from artsy-fartsy Leftist Apple. I never was impressed with Apple's over-hyped and overpriced mobile products. Still not quite past the "Why can't my Linux do stuff like Mac OS did so well?"
@@kiillabytez It was indeed CompUSA! Thanks for jogging my memory, that is really bringing it all back! We also had a local software store throughout the 80s and 90s, they did "midnight runs" as well. Fun times as a kid growing up!
Also, I agree with you on the excessive clicks. When I right click on the desktop or in a folder, I ALWAYS need to view more options. The default options are never ever what I need. Why is "Send to" not in the default menu???
Thank you so much. I was livid for months after the Win11 release, because none of the technologist I follow on social media would be honest about how bad it was. It was making me crazy for a while. they act like they have to pretend on behalf of Microsoft or something. Most of them are not working at Microsoft, and I just could not make sense of it. It still bothers me that no one will mention that Win11 is leftover UI elements from the FAILED Windows X. It is like they have a gag order or something, and are not allowed to say it. What will it hurt? Only thing that can happen is MS gets it's act together and fixes the thing. Why does everyone have such a hard time just saying the OS is garbage right now. And why does it make people 'bad' or 'negative' to say the truth? Thanks for being honest in this review. Windows 11 is a mess, and should not be acceptable from a company like MS.
They wont get invited to free buffet launch parties if they stated the truth..
Ungrouping Taskbar Labels is the reason why I went back to Win10. It is so unproductive, especially when I have 3-5 explorer windows opened at any time. I don't want them to be hidden behind an icon.
PS. I see you're a car guy. Nice!
PPS. Good video. Subbed
So, preview? works for me. just hover over the icon and you get a visual break out of every window that you can use to easily pick the one you want while not cluttering your taskbar.
@@TheOneTonHammer It takes 2s before popup appears. That's slow and time is money
@@TopCarsTV I guess it depends on how often you use this feature. I use it maybe once a week. For me that works out to about 90 seconds a year? I think I can handle that.
@@TheOneTonHammer How do I benefit from the fact it works for you? It doesn't work for me. I don't want idiotic groupped icons, delays, hovers or animations. I want bars with labels, separated, because it used to be that way for about 30 years. I get that some people might like it, but why isn't this an option? OS is a layer between hardware and apps, I don't want it to force me into workflows I'm not familiar with or interested in.
@@hovnocuc4551 remember, taskbar grouping when the bar wasn’t full only appeared in windows 7, ELEVEN years ago, not 30. I’m not trying to convince you of anything. It doesn’t bother me if there is a feature you don’t like. It just seems a juvenile reason to write off an entire release of an operating system for. 🤷♂️ you do you, boo.
The “Every other version” legacy continues! You gotta admire that track record of consistency.
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after all these years, they sure are.
"Every other version" sounds catchy as a joke, but it's far from the truth.
I have zero experience with the first or second ever Windows OS but... Windows 3.1/3.11 was great. Then came Windows 95, which also was great. Then came Windows 98, which was great, at least around the second edition era. Then Windows Me sucked. Windows 2000 followed, which was great. After that, Windows XP, which is arguably the best. Windows Vista sucked. Then Windows 7 came and was great. Windows 8/8.1 was really bad, but then came Windows 10 and grew from tollerable to good after a while. Now Windows 11 is here and is said to suck too.
Windows 11 aside (too early to tell, Windows 10 sucked in it's infancy aswell), Microsoft evidently has a better track-record than "every other version".
You've got Windows Me, Vista, and Windows 8.
That's only 3 bad ones out of 10 (if we don't count the server and NT versions, and each did their respective jobs very well for their time - which would add even more to the good side total of windows releases).
That is the actual truth.
@@simplytough *Wooosh*
What about 8 and 9?
I have just started using windows 11 on my Amd system. You are on point about what sucks in windows 11. Luckily, the Amd issue has been fixed with bios and a software update. They brought back widgets I feel they suck too. I disabled the widgets engine. Widgets are just so Microsoft can force feed you msn news. (In my opinion).
glad you caught that. Microdick basically wants to rifle through your pockets, sell your info and force feed you porkaganda. I'm not putting up with it, I hope nobody else is either. We need to send Microdick the same message we sent them when they tried to cram touchscreen down our throats.
Microsoft once made a perfect OS. Everybody loved it. It was fun, reasonable, easy to use, free with no strings attached, and in a word great. If MS was human it would go back to featuring this their greatest product ever -- but I'm glad they're not because they'd just ruin it in some way.
It was called Windows 7, and I'll use it till I die.
WIN7 is the best MS will ever make.
Well, not really free, but I agree with the rest of your points. Windows XP is another honorable mention for its fun and familiar user interface and the snappiness.
Nowadays I wouldn't use Windows 7 anymore if it's connected to the internet, though. Not unless you know what you're doing, anyways-using some kind of ad blocker, finding a way to install the newest security updates normally only used by paid customers etc. If somehow there's a version of Windows 7 with all the security updates of Windows 10/11, that would've been the ultimate option.
Nope...Win 7 is too heavy...good for corporate usage...not so much for personal.
Windows 8.1 was a great stepforward for personal use...then Win 10 and now Win 11.
I still have a machine (now retired), single core VIA processor 1GHz using just 1 Giga DDR2 RAM running Win 8.1. (for 2 years it was my Headless Torrent Box and Personal File Server).
My only complain about Win 11 is, as the video has shown...the huge amount of bugs.
No quite big bugs...but lots of small (and irritating) ones...but M$ is fixing them day by day.
XP just due to market share at the time and how long it lasted
you cant use it till you die
no support
just use it till your computer doesnt work and then when you get a new one...install linux
Thanks for a nice review. The trend of demanding personal accounts for every damn software we use is maddening. I guess I'll stick to W10 as long as I can.
XP Pro had everything I wanted - Control, ease of use, and customization. I could run it bare with the right drivers and my programs would sing. More memory? Yup. More power? Yup. Games ran like butter? Yup, yup! It was a time when WinXP took over Sparq rendering in the industry because it was STABLE and unobtrusive.
I don't think we'll see another OS like it until Microsoft's monopoly falls over from becoming top-heavy.
I loved windows XP pro wish they would bring it back with the PC I have now there would be fun to be had by me
Not many XP era computers supported 64 bit version. XP had a strong long run but the newer apps and games these days require everyone to atleast have 7. It felt like a big loss at first when many app developers dropped support for XP but I hope we never need to go past 7.
Yeah man, exactly! I just wrote the same, more or less and was afraid I’d be the only one 😂👍
XP was indeed the pinnacle. All they've done since is incrementally make everything more difficult for the user. I guess they have to change things to justify their existence and paychecks? As someone whose job it is to design usable software I have to say that Windows gets further from being intuitive with every new release.
and tons of viruses
Nice shirt bro! Just found your channel and am loving the content! Keep up the good work!
Thanks for the very informative info on Windows 11. My laptop meets MS Windows 11 requirements and I have been holding off from upgrading. But now, I think I'm going to stick with Windows 10 till its retired in 2025.
So, what happens when Win 10 is retired? Will everyone be forced to use whatever Microsoft has available at that time?
@@whyyeseyec I'm afraid so. It will be similar to when people were hanging on to Windows 7 till the very end and then everybody went to Windows 10.
Of course by that time the free upgrade offer from MS will expire.
@@whyyeseyecthen i will use linux
@@telocho I upgraded from 7 to 11 with the same product ID, skipping 8 and 10 on a laptop that needed to be repaired.
Windows 7 and XP where the best. Everything was simple and functional, and everything worked like it was supposed to back then.. -When they actually still cared about quality control.
I'm still rocking Windows 7.....love it
XP with all programs running as admin by default was a bit insecure, I think.
I reluctantly went from XP over to Windows 7 back in the days, and fell in love with it... Still trying to fall in love with Win 10... will be years till I try 11
XP... check! WinVista?... Yuck! Win7... check! Win8... Yuck! Win10?... Yuck! Heck. I like MS DOS better than most of their Windows products. Now that I'm unable to authenticate my perfectly legal Win7 on my new hardware, I'm waving Bye-Bye to Microsoft and hello Linux.
@@RodMartinJr Crack it
@@rengurenge Details? I've seen a dozen "cracking" methods. So far, either they didn't work or seemed too risky (virus potential -- "disable your firewall and connect to a server in China," for instance; LOL!).
ms won't give you years - it will make sure that 10 is obsolete.
Great video thanks, just came across your channel. Im very happy with W10 Pro and wont budge until they stop updates for it! In fact I'll say W7 and W10 are two of my fav Windows editions. Subbed! Btw I like your very neat and tidy minimal setup!
The only time I remember MicroSoft being upfront about the crap they were giving us was the admission on the day that ME was released that there were 60,000+ known bugs, but only 28,000 were potentially serious.
It's a toss up which was worse, ME or Vista. I hated both with a passion.
@@justmeiniowa The first computer I got at 12 years old, which I wanted more than anything in the world, was a 1.0 Ghz Intel Celeron with windows ME on it. I loved that computer. I combed through every setting and optimization with great joy and actually made that thing run great. I resisted upgrading to XP for like a year after having access to it just because everything ran great and I knew exactly how to work and squeeze every drop of performance out of that system. For me, when it finally happened, XP was more of a visual upgrade because I liked how everything looked smooth and round in it. I didn't notice much of a difference in performance until I combed through all of XP's settings and optimized it for peak performance like I had done with ME. I hated Vista with a passion because most of the computers I fixed for people back then had vista on them and that was a giant paint in my ass to work with. Making those Vista machines run anything above "just barely ok" was near impossible. I'll take a windows ME over a Vista ANYDAY...
@@justmeiniowa nothing wrong with vista. People who say that are usually xp fanatics.
I used vista for five years the only thing I had a problem with was the creative sound blaster drivers gave me errors.
Vista gave me constant headaches
ME can be fixed by running Norton WinDoctor once and enjoying the OS
@@sw1000xg XP was horrible tbh. Vista & win 7 were great combination of looks and usability.
Windows 7 was almost perfect, they could added more options in the control panel and added better battery management, better audio control access like which is in W10, better network selection etc.
Then it would been perfect, oh and tabbed Explorer windows, but no, Microsoft essentially like "Fuck you guys, give us your money"
LOL Im still using 7 on purpose. All the others were so bad I said screw it and went back to what I like.
@@138NastyNate Agreed. I still use Windows 7 Vista and XP.
@SMGJohn: windows 11 is more of a lamens OS because businesses normally buy refurbished Dell desktop wholesale not laptops because businesses care about profit. I don't feel that business will ever use windows 11 because ethier windows 12 is available for older PC or Linux can has windows 11 support in 🍷.
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Businesses are forced to upgrade once Windows reaches its end of cycle life, they cannot risk having old stuff running.
But yes you are in large parts right, they will avoid upgrading wherever possible, I seen Windows 3.1 still run in the fucking bank as of 2022 because they are too greedy to upgrade it LOL, but again, if it works, it works, only downside is, having W3.1 connected to the internet, not the most brilliant idea.
@@SMGJohn Well business don't have to run windows they can use Linux and some new company like banks have only make consumer software for iPads for things like HRD checking .
As far as UX is concerned, for me, Windows 7 was the pinnacle of Windows evolution, and it's been downhill ever since. It feels almost like Microsoft went out of their way to make Windows as ugly as possible (to have a "Soviet-era" look (drab colours, depressing-looking fonts and other graphic elements)), and to make it as inconvenient as possible for serious users (e.g. people who work with a lot of text, and who prefer to use keystrokes instead of a mouse to perform certain tasks, because those are much faster).
It's as if Microsoft had decided that, starting with Win 8, their primary customer was going to be a colour-blind 3-year old child with no esthetic sense whatsoever, who liked to use nothing but his fingers to interact with computers, and who would never want to compose any bodies of text longer than 20 words. Why couldn't they just make "Microsoft Bob 2.0" for the toddlers, and leave the Windows 7 UX unfucked-up for the serious users?
Yea win 7 was definitely Windows' peak. And before that it was XP. This video may be about 11, but I still really don't like using windows 10 either, even after like 2 years of doing so. So many less-functional menus, more clicks to get to places, more advanced functionality and settings are harder to get to, the look feels hard and too minimalistic opposed to 7's soft and nicely clean look, etc. If this continues windows is going to eventually design itself out of it's majority market share.
xD Well fucking said! xD
I agree. Personally, XP was my favorite, but 7 wasn't bad. Microsoft has aggressively removed or obfuscated features that I routinely find myself wanting to use. Got an old projector that has an HDMI port but doesn't use an HDMI resolution? Then there's the issue of removing customization features.. I mean, someone who is completely new to using computers but is familiar with phones may have an easier time learning the system, but those of us who are power users are being pushed away.
@@kittenisageek I'm somewhere in between a power and casual user. XP was a bit too complicated for my liking. 7 was spot on for me. But XP was the best before 7. After that it's all been downhill.
The only reason I switched to 10 was because my motherboard/cpu upgrade didn't accept 7. The excuse was/is that the chipset doesn't properly work with 7, but that's bullshit. As there have been people that unlocked them to make 7 work just fine. So yea, microsoft basically forces people to get the new windows these days, by arbitrarily making newer motherboards/cpus lock out older ones...
How are you struggling to write text? I‘ve been writing A LOT of text on W11 without any issues. What does the OS matter once you open Word?
Thanks for the info. I am going to stay with windows 10 as long as I can. I want to be able to easily choose my browser. (I don't use Edge.) I like the uncluttered layout of the Windows 10 start menu. I don't need or want a lot of 'bloatware' or advertising on my start menu. I like being able to arrange the items that I access most in a way that suits me. Also, I like to arrange icons on the task bar the way that I want them arranged. I like being able to make the task bar icons smaller. I don't need the fancy new android interface. I don't sync any other devices to my computer. I don't play X-box games. And though I seldom go to the control panel, I want to be able to do so if I want to. Sounds like when the day comes that we are forced to switch to windows 11, I am going to be very unhappy with it.
The taskbar in windows 11 is such a sht show it's unbelievable. I can understand not improving the taskbar but making it worse than w10 is unforgivable. You can't move it accross monitors. You can't force display all notification icons unless you click everything. And it will only anchor to your main screen which is stupid if you need to keep a clean full screen for an application.
I wish we could go back to the days when an operating system was just that
true... even linux is a pain, every freaken time you want to adjust a setting "ENTER YOUR PASSWORD"
for fuck sake what's the lockscreen for if the OS is paranoid you got kidnapped by an intruder before being able to lock the screen... it just keeps asking to enter your password "just in case"
Yes, the operating system used to serve us and not the other way around.
Like many Windows users (and I worked for Microsoft from 1988 to 1998) I've leap-frogged between good and bad versions of Windows. Windows 95 was when it became maybe better than Mac OS, then came Windows XP which many of us stuck with for over a decade, then a few versions (2000, ME) which sucked, and then Windows 7 which was ultimately the one to stay with for another decade. Windows 8 then also sucked, they skipped 9.0 for whatever reason, and now I'm in Windows 10 world and pretty happy with it, even if it meant I had to buy a new laptop with it pre-installed. They then started auto-harassing me to upgrade to Windows 11, but given the track record I'm back again to the "If it ain't broke don't fix it" crowd. So is Windows 11 another "NOPE"? Thanks for this video and warning not to succumb to yet another pressure to "upgrade" again? I'll stick with Windows 10 until there is enough evidence to go ahead.
I've stuck with XP.
A lot of the things he talks about are being addressed in the Windows 11 Insider builds (like the browser setting issue and the task bar icons/recommendations). I'd say give it a year or so and it should be fine to upgrade.
you forgot vista and 8.1
There are a few Linux distros that have the same functionality and are much more stable than Windows. You can always use a Windows emulator if it's software that is Windows only.
@@luci-fer250 I waited a while to get vista and never had any issues with it. It was only the fools that rushed in first that had problems and the next version of windows after vista was for all practical purposes vista rebranded.
You CAN put control panel back on the desktop. In Windows 10 (and probably 11), right click on the desktop, select the "Personalize" option, select "Themes", go to the far right and look for "Related settings". Under that, click on "desktop icon settings". This brings up the old Windows 7 screen where you can put the old icons back on the desktop. I always use this setting because it lets me single click to open the PC, my personal folders, control panel, etc.
I just recently had to get a new laptop, because my 8 yr-old champ decided to die on me, so I got to enjoy all the fun of using Windows 11. I agree with a lot of what you've discussed, as well as many other commenters' issues, along with my own fun experiences in the past few weeks. Apparently, you can't change your user folder/user profile name without glitching out Windows bad enough to render your computer virtually unsalvageable. Also, I've experienced a glitch that reverts the system volume to full blast, so you can't mute your system notifications without going in and deleting the audio files. Speaking of, there's also a delightfully unchangeable setting that makes all file folders revert to 'read-only' if there's another folder inside, so if I need to delete a large project from my directory, I have to either delete every file individually, or go into the admin profile to give myself the permissions to delete said folder, only to have subsequent new folders created still bear the 'read-only' status. It's like Microsoft goes out of their way to put out a broken, garbage OS that hates its users.
You'd do well to go back to Windows 10.I did.
@@davidr.wilson8194 I'm staying on windows 10.
I like the way windows 11 looks visually, but functionally it seems rough. I’ll wait for a while. Thanks for the info! Oh and not to mention the litany of issues with ryzen CPUs!
I tried Windows 11 about 3 times with several weeks in between each try, giving Microsoft a chance to fix their problems. A severely limited taskbar, limited context menus, forced grouping of similar app spaces, bloatware, and forced use of a Microsoft account had me reverting back to Windows 10 within only a few hours each time. At this point I'm just not going to do it any more, and as the IT manager at my office, I'm not supporting or helping anyone with Windows 11 issues now either. Windows 11 will not be allowed in our workplace unless it's on personal equipment, and that will be unsupported. Microsoft has really dropped the ball on this one.
Windows 11 was eating away my CPU!
You'll only need to try Zorin once
If you're the IT manager, why not just not install the bloatware? It doesn't force you to use a Microsoft account. Perhaps it did at one point (?). However, if I were in your position, I'd probably want to use LTSC instead, so the normal release cycles would be irrelevant.
In a work environment where they are employing even an IT manager, they should use win11 professional and not home anyway. Multiple reasons, including central management options on installed sw, azure to access central infrastructure like network printers, etc.
You dont have to use microsoft account except if you are using enterprise edition (which is normal, thats windows of your work or school). Context menu is same if you click more options. I use pc for different tasks (photo editing, gaming, education, programming) and i did not find anything which is missing on win 11, that existed on win 10.
When I was using Windows 7 on my systems it took me a looooong time to decide to switch to Windows 10. I just bypassed Windows 8 and 8.1 altogether because of the hassle of learning a new operating environment and for the reasons pointed out here. To me, Windows has always been a royal pain in the ASS migrating from one OS to a newer version that I may not like. I've had it with Microsoft and their Windows. Windows 10 is going to be the last OS I use from Microsoft. I may continue using it way past it's last day of support, but after I decide to quite using Windows 10 altogether I am going to start using Linux Mint on all my systems. I am using Mint 20.1 now in conjunction with Windows 10, only because I have some programs that only run in Windows. But nowadays with WINE you can run Windows software in Linux so that makes leaving Windows even easier. The real problem may be that Microsoft is now becoming "WOKE" and they want to control more of our computer use and enjoyable experiences. Unfortunately...Just not the Windows of past generations. In a FREE world there is no need for Windows and Gates! GO LINUX!
Been on Windows 7 and used windows 10 on a friends computer, worst experience i've had on a computer, and never upgraded. Windows 7 now complains to me at least twice a day to upgrade, or that my veesion is "no longer supported", and I will happily endure that, so long as I don't have to deal with the hassle that is downgrading to Windows 10+. I'm switching to linux the moment windows 7 decides to brick itself.
Without even going into the amount of annoying oversight that microsoft tries to have these days, (to say nothing of the spyware they shovel into the OS) Microsoft is evolving backwards, and I have no intention of following them. Windows had a _near_ perfect balance of user control around 7, and they decided to throw it all out the window.
Don’t give them the “woke” excuse. Bad design decisions are bad design decisions.
I am a Linux elementary newbie since late last year, coming from Mac OS. Slowly getting used to it.
@@vla1ne
_throw it all out the window_ ?
I often call it MyCrud$oft Windoze. I am moving from Macintosh to Linux elementary running on a former Windows 7 PC. Would Mint or Pop OS have been better?
@@yosefmacgruber1920 i forgot about mint and pop. Gonna have to give those aa second look later.
To many of us long term Windows users, it's just another of the "odd man out" Windows versions... like Millennium, Vista, and 8. I think what plagues Windows so badly is that they (probably) get this set of ideas in their head as to how they need to improve the OS with every other version, then on the first version they try to do this in, they fail hard. Eventually, after a year or two of losing numbers compared to previous versions, the project managers all be like, "Yeah, you know that 5 ft tall stack of printer-paper-thin suggestions that all say the same thing about how we should have designed [insert literally ANY functionality here] in the first place? Maybe if you could somewhat fix that now, that'd be great."
XP and 7 don't count. They were like extensions of 2000 (I say that loosely. And one could even argue extension of 98, albeit on a non-kernel, interface level). With each version, most things got a little better. Whether it was ease of use, included drivers, settings availability, software compat, etc. Hell, even the interfaces were all similar. And then somehow, they're all like, "Yeah, no. Let's just limit people and make shit obsolete. Oh yeah! And let's bloat it and give it bugs and issues that are hard to fix!" lol
Dear Microsoft. Stop. Just use the KISS principle, and also give us access to settings. That's literally all the philosophy you need.
Honestly? I can't wait until the debacle that will be Windows 13 lol
my first windows os was windows 98
@@luci-fer250 bring back 98SE
@@bettysteve322716 that was my second one
Why hate on 8? Just because it disables your wifi every time it sleeps doesn't make it a trash OS. 😂 I have also been using M$ since 3.1 and, well, it is as the WinDixie grocery stores jingle says, ".. Getting Better all the Time".
10 was an odd man out version for me after the upgrade (relative to 8) that was 8.1 (which for my money may as well be 9). 10 is slow, obtrusive to power users, loaded with spyware, and not actually having any features that new software would actually need outside of DX12 (which makes software actually requiring it largely a matter of vendor lockouts. For example, if you just edit the minimum version number in one of the installation files, you can put the latest Adobe AfterEffects and Premiere on a W7 machine).
11 seems somehow even worse than 10, looking like a hollywood version of a user-friendly computer. Does it even give you fullscreen in games? The commercials all show the start bar in what should be fullscreen applications
Windows 11 is such an amazing piece of software that I've finally upgraded my Win10 work machine to Debian 11. Thankfully, all tools I need for work are cross-platform anyway. Couldn't be happier, runs faster than win10 and you can customize the shit out of it.
BTW, just bumped into this chanel accidentally, your delivery is amazing. Subscribed, liked. :)
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@@_IronLion_ it is better, and it's not even done yet anyway so stop hating.
never switch to an operating system that has just been released they take at least 3 to 4 years to fix all the bugs
@@kaisdhifallah2616 hahaha everthing you said is just wrong. the bugs will ALWAYS be there...
@@dunderdotten talking about the major ones not the minor bugs
I despise the lack of OS consistency. Having to click "show more options" to get to the old context menu, not able to show application name in the taskbar, lack of menu items when right clicking the taskbar, of course Bing always sucks. I downgraded from 10 to 11 but will be going back to 10
So, if we don't have the requirements on our system, do we have to update to Windows 11? Will my Windows 10 get any more updates
Ya, half the settings and shit is still straight from Windows 2000. It's pathetic.
If they're going to overhaul the look of the OS, don't half ass it and only do 1/2 of the UI.
@@oldwoman1592 Microsoft will continue to support Windows 10 with security updates until October 14, 2025.
Yeah I agree. That bothers me more than anything.
100% Agree, I use old context menu a lot in explorer, and the need to click show more options is dumb. I also use WinRar occasionally so more annoying than ever lol
My vender discouraged me using Windows 11 on my new system (3rd Gen AMD Rhyzen on Galax B550M EX). Initially, I was not happy about his recommendations. However, now I'm beginning to understand why I shouldn't upgrade to 11. Thank you so much. (I subscribed 👌🏆)
I asked the Woz why Apple and MS often made the user interface harder to use and he said that it was because the programmers needed to justify their pay checks. To be blunt one of the much earlier versions of Windows, at least to me, had a better user interface. In recent years they just make them worse for most of us. I also don't want to dump my text documents, etc. on line. Not everything is public information and if they have it then my privacy has a hole in it you can send a super tanker through. For that reason I now use libre office. Oh yes, I had to look up how to turn off the computer in windows 11. Foolish!!!
No. The programmers are not doing shit regarding user experience. They just program what they are told. And I doubt very much that you asked Woz and he said this.
I'm sorry, but how da fuq do you have to look up how to shutdown windows? It's basically the same as it has been in every version of windows and it's the same as in every desktop environment that has a start menu.
@@lycanthoss The shut down command in all previous versions has been in the same location. In eleven you have to right click on the on the window then in on a list near the bottom. It only took a couple of minutes but this is just another example of brilliant stupidity that occurs when staff decides to change the interface. I call them time wasters.
@@dwightehowell8179 but the location of the shut down button is completely intuitive. And for how different the UI is, I'd say it's basically the same location.
This was really helpful. I bought a new HP just before 11 came out and this computer was set up with 10, but with the knowledge 11 was due shortly and once that happened, it keeps reminding me to upgrade. It's hardwired in there to keep pushing the upgrade now that it's available. Now I know to just avoid doing that.
The best,really best channel i've been seen on youtube who speaks out actually well about the case such as about newly introduced MS win 11 and so much other subjects, IS HERE.
Regarding the sound issue, I'd recommend going into device manager to see if it's constantly removing and re-adding a particular device. If that narrows it down, see if there's an updated device driver for it. Failing that, if the device isn't required you could disable it for now until a new driver is released (potentially via Windows Update).
I think I've narrowed it down to the Corsair Commander pro. Typically when I put a test OS on the system I don't bother installing the iCUE software.
It shows absolutely nothing in device manager but I haven't had time to test me iCUE theory, but it makes sense. It doesn't do it in my main Windows 10 OS. It just does it in Windows 11 test installs that I use for content. Once I'm done filming the videos I usually wipe it out so I haven't spent much time troubleshooting it.
Yes
Unfortunately the USB-beep issue is also present in Windows 10. I also suspect that it might have something to do with constantly adding and removing a device but my scanner for example still appears to do it's job just fine (I.e. even if I hear the sound in the middle of a 10 page scan job). If somebody finds a fix, I'D be happy for a tutorial.
Not sure if you’re running a Ryzen 5000 series CPU but I used to get the USB connect/disconnect sound ALL THE TIME😒. There were some BIOS updates that nearly eliminated the issue. Still happens from time to time. The original issue caused random, intermittent USB disconnects pretty much constantly. When I first built my machine, it was so irritating I kept mine muted as well
Its not issue with windows, just some device issue, I had that with occulus detector thing some time ago, it was easy fix when I did know whats wrong
As Windows progressed through the various versions in the 90's and early 2000's, they just seemed to be improving and 'piggy backing' off user prior learning and intuition. Ever since Windows 95, it just seems as though changes have been made just to undo any previous experience level and bring the user back to square one. I was also confused by the reason for some of the dramatic changes to the 'Office' programs. Things that use to be so simple now seem difficult. Why is that?
I remember and miss when computers had a steep but rewarding learning curve. Now it’s just pure “less is less and people will still buy it” garbage that even Pokémon is doing.
this is literally what i just said.. windows 95 made sense.. what the heck is any of this new stuff? its all over the place.. oh you want to adjust your reolution well thats over here.. you want to change your screen colors well thats over in this other category.. you want to adjust your frame rate well thats over here.. you want a screen saver? that doesnt exist..
improving is never a word I would use to describe anything mircosoft does.
Just install Linux Mint. It comes with Libre Office and Firefox. Everything is dead simple. Mint feels a lot like Windows XP. Mint is completely free. However, Linux gets frustrating as heck if you try to game, stream or install proprietary software.
They have to change it so they can pretend like they have not been selling the same OS for 30 years. Arbitrary changes to the UI is how they make you think it is new. That's why I like Linux. Gnome pissing you off try cinnamon. It is unlikely on Linux that there is not a desktop environment that is not to your liking
Always fun to take a look into the Windows world. Thanks for sharing your experiences. It's more than 5 years since I'm not working with windows systems anymore and it seems to be a good decision. I don't think that I ever switch back from Linux to Windows. But it's nice to have a small view in the struggles you still face by using Windows. It's really reassuring. Thanks =)
Well, I would too, if it actually was capable of doing all those things I can / want to do in Windows. Let's be serious: The Office suite is the de facto standard everywhere. Stay away with Libre Office. It may work for some tasks, but if you don't want to print out those documents to have others (without LO) read them: Good luck with the formatting. Word and Writer just don't harmonize.
Gaming: There are steps in the right direction, but not all games I own can run on Linux or you can't install them in a smooth, relatively hassle-free way.
Adobe Suite: Not usable without emulators / virtual machines etc. (Stay away with GIMP and its interface of hell)
Music Programs: Same with all the other software, that has no dedicated Linux version.
So don't get me wrong: Linux is great for programming and basic tasks like playing back music, browsing the web, receiving mails, doing office stuff etc. and on top of it most of it is completely free to use and I think that's fantastic! (I also have Linux in my dual boot options.)
But if you want to do anything beyond that, it get's rather complicated or impossible.
yep, sadly i need windows because of office and adobe software. luckily there are lite and compact pirat win versions that removes useless stuff and makes it more similar to Linux.
I'm using Windows10 Pro, absolutely love it, won't be upgrading to Windows 11 anytime soon, government are trying to be more environmentally friendly yet tech companies force people to upgrade. It's a complete waste, I had my laptop built by PC Specialist 5 years ago, I'll upgrade it again when I want to
Excellent video, keep them coming
I miss windows XP. You could run anything on that system. I even still have the "Photo Suite 4" disk that came with it. What a great great program that was. It would sort of run on windows 7, but windows 10 won't even recognize it. I'm sure windows 11 won't run older software either.
That was my favourite OS. It was extremely intuitive.
I grew up with XP and I miss it sorely. I, you and others I'm sure, would rather stick with Windows 7 than 10 or 11. Windows 7 looked beautiful, 10 and 11, bland, boring and lazy. I am moving into Linux, I suggest you do the same as well. I do not use windows as often as I used to. I recommend Linux Mint with the Cinnamon Desktop Environment which reminds me of Windows 7. XFCE and MATE Desktops remind me more of XP, I bet to some it reminds them of Windows 95 and 98. You have a bit of learning to do with Linux but you will have fun. Which reminds me of when using Windows XP to 7 was fun.
@@khehlentlemeza1922 A time when Windows was good.
Hi! Your bug is mostly likely a result of enhanced sleep in the registry. One of your devices is being constantly waken up and put to sleep. You will have to go in the registry and tweak the value to 0. Hope that helps!
Thanks for making this list, appreciate the service. More choice is always better (obviously with the caveat that the presentation of the choices shouldn't overwhelm the end user). I'm getting pretty tired of Microsoft arbitrarily taking away configuration options/choices that they already have the code for. I realize that new versions of software are architected differently and are written in light of new programming trends. However a design principle could be, 'don't take away the old choices, just offer new ones as the default and give the choice to use the old config option'. I've been putting off Windows 11 and will continue to do so. Might be one of those seasons where I just go live in Linuxland for a while till things get set right again.
@@КристиянТрънбашев-м9о mostly that a lot of people are used to google chrome
Great video thanks. But I keep looking at the bits in the crack you missed painting that corner. My OCD kicked in throughout 🙂
Agree with you on pretty much everything. I got a 12900K and decided to put Windows 11 on it because of the scheduler for the cpu. I have luckily not had major bugs, but there are a few here and there I notice. But certain changes they have made, or things they have removed, are just weird. Changes are either a weird sidestep you have to learn, or things you used are just gone. Win11 feels totally unnecessary to me. I recommend not upgrading until people start talking positively about it.
The only thing that looks good is the newer GUI....and significant memory management improvements the handle apps. It is much smoother than windows 10.
Otherwise they made extra step to get into some setting menus.
I love this review. He says so much of what I have been complaining about for several generations of Windows. It's almost as if Microsoft tries to fail at developing a better OS. Being in IT, Windows has simply gotten worse each time. Granted there are a couple of things that are better but that's rare 💯 Thanks for the excellent "hate" review 👍🏻😅
It hasn't, this is just a video with a bunch of nitpicks and doesn't bother looking at any actually bad things about the OS. 99% of the video is nothing that any user, other than people who still thinks that windows XP is the best OS ever, will ever care about.
Absolutely true! There's a fix for the inability to easily change defaults coming soon. But I think it was done on purpose to move as many people over the Edge as possible. I'd happily use Edge if it didn't have that useless search engine Bing. Every time I accidentally use it, it just returns fake websites and dodgy links instead of whatever I was looking for.
I would never use Edge because Microsoft had made it to be as inflexible as possible. Like with Windows, I want to customize things to my personal taste and Edge, like Chrome and Windows 11, is the opposite.
-Windows 7 (windows 7 was amazing and is probably my favorite windows to date. The widgets they had were amazing which they took away)
-Windows XP (would XP was very very stable and just works)
-Windows 10 (I have grown to like it with destroy spying blockers and other customization. I have used it as my daily driver for years now)
-Windows 11 (I have installed this on an SD card i have made a portable install using Rufus.
What I HATE:
There are a TON of steps to make it usable and productive.
-The extra steps on the right click they added to the context menu is idiotic
-How long it takes to make an application a default application
-The stock launcher is not intuitive (I have installed startisback11 to make this better)
-Windows Defender which you cannot just uninstall or permanently disable without going into the registry (this has been the forced virus protection since windows 10 and I hate it)
-There are many more extra steps you have to take to re-enable features and settings that Microsoft thought it would be good to change.
-There is software and guides to help you with fixing it
WHAT I DO LIKE:
-It seems snappy
-Refreshed UI
-Gives you the ability to run Android applications (I have the full Google play store installed on mine and magisk rooted which is amazing and very cool
Nice, thanks for taking the time. I'm thinking this will be a typical "skip version" for me. I do not appreciate the direction with the UEFI, yet again more clicks to get where you need (assuming you can still pop powershell and call whatever but you still need to learn the new syntax) and I SURE AS HELL hate not being able to move the task bar to the left/right. On my 4K panel (3840x2160), which dimension has more pixels to burn? Here's a hint, it's not 2160 ....
Keep ''em coming man.
"On my 4K panel (3840x2160), which dimension has more pixels to burn?". i love that sentence. You're thinking with actual logic man, all that is out the window in this case :P
I wish the people in charge were as logical as you are :P
edit: just think of the process to change your default browser to chrome.. logic completely out the window
Here’s another: I like to right click on the taskbar and choose task manager maybe to kill a process or something. It’s not there now. You only get it when you right click on the start button so now I need to retrain my reflexes how I do this. I also like the right click and go to “send to “and as you pointed out you have to go to more options to get to that now. What they also changed in that manner is properties. For 20 years we’ve been right clicking on something and going to the bottom of the pop-up menu to get to Properties, and now it’s halfway down. Why? Why don’t they just leave it alone? At least alt plus enter still gets us there.
@@LazloNQ I remembered that I've been on the Windows 11 Insider Preview version where I can submit feedback. I just submitted the three things I mentioned above. Would be interesting if it actually changed. My reasoning was, these tasks are admin stuff we've been doing and to change it for NO GOOD REASON slows us down, not to mention we will still be working on Win10/8/7 machines, so having to deal with both when we have a stack of issues to fix is not a good user experience. I told Microsoft I'd rather go back to Win 10 in that case. I don't think anything will come of it but it was nice getting to fuss at them for what it's worth!
doesnt ctrl+shift+esc work anymore?
I 'upgraded' as soon as I got my new laptop (i7 processor) - I very quickly realised that there was something seriously wrong with it. The new layout stinks, as do the sounds, it was laggy, the screen froze or went 'fuzzy', the colours were dark, images were blurred ... I complained to the vendor that they had sold me a dud, but they said that I should change back to W10 and everything would be fine, as they had had lots of similar complaints. They were right. I don't think I'll be going back.
I completely agree with you about the control panel disappearing. Finding it very annoying. I'm totally raging out on the menus being so short and having to make the extra clicks. I mean, they made what I normally use all the time one extra click, but still throughout my work day, or even at home. It's an Extra cliques.
However, my biggest problem right now is my menus will stop working 6 to 7 times a day. The menu will open up just fine. However, it will not allow you to click on anything in that menu.. This is not just the start menu, but all menu. I wind up having to use Alt F4. In order to restart my machine so that I can continue working. Very frustrating. Driving me absolutely bonkers.
I stayed with Windows 10 and customized my taskbar & start menu using Open-Shell to look and function like the ones that Windows XP/7 had. It took a good bit of thinkering for sure, but when I finally got things up and running, my God is the interface so much better to deal with. Not to mention faster and snappier too. Because Windows 10, even though it's an okay operating system, has gotten even worse performance-wise as time goes by. And one of my biggest gripe with the OS is that it always has this sticky feel or slight milisecond delay to it whenever you click on the start menu or open up the horrendous Settings menu.
This usually happens when you install the OS on a mechanical HDD and not an SSD so, for those who are still using HDDs or couldn't afford to upgrade to SSDs, this small annoyance can definitely suck. But Open-Shell fixed that for me and I couldn't have been happier. With that said, I don't think I would ever want to go back to using the oversimplified vanilla Windows 10 start-menu ever again. Let alone using the one in Windows 11.
Same here. ClassicShell and Taskbar Tweaker are lifesavers for Windows 10
Yes you def need to install on an SSD and even then for some strange reason every third or fourth time you boot up everything is laggy until you reboot and my PC is a veritable monster.
Same, I did a whole reskin of my college Windows 10 laptop to look like XP the moment I got it. I got RetroBar to replace the taskbar and have that run on startup, I used OpenShell to change the Start Menu to XP/7 style (and now I ACTUALLY USE the Start Menu quite frequently, I never used the Windows 10 start menu, it was too inconvenient and convoluted for anything I might need a Start Menu for), and I changed a lot of icons, all the sound effects, added a full custom Luna theme, re-installed all the legacy Windows apps and games using Winero Tweaker (also got 3D Pinball because you need that) as well as added the Bliss wallpaper because why not? While everything else was purely for the cosmetics and sound, the taskbar and Start Menu changes actually made a significant practical difference too and are so much nicer now! I also debloated a lot of things too. And turned off Windows animations for further authenticity but also the occasional lag they have is aggravating.
Yeah Windows 10 pretty much needs a SSD to not lag
Thanks for the 'heads up' on Windows 11. I'm currently hanging on to my Windows 10 with a Shell program that lets my PC desktop look and function like Windows 7. I've managed to cut off all updates from Microsoft as well.....in self-defense of course. The last upgrade/update from Microsoft wiped my PC clean of all files, games, programs, pictures, documents, settings, desktop icons.....Nothing left but a few empty file folders, Windows 10 and a smiley face. (Shudder) That was a nightmare I wouldn't wish on anyone. So......Windows 11? No thanks Microsoft. I'll just sit back and watch until things smooth out a bit. Maybe they'll work out the glitches in five years or so. Maybe. :)
I like your logic. But I read something, last month. That win 10 will stop getting security updates this winter. Was that article just a load of horseshit? I dunno. How bad is it to continue online without security updates? i dunno. Seem like, if I keep some kind of anti-virus going, then it would be good? I mean, I think ATM machines still run xp. So no patches can't be that bad? well, maybe. i dunno.
Windows 11 reminds me too much of an old KDE build I used on Fedora Core many years ago. I just know that lots of older people won't be able to adapt to it and things have been broken for no reason. At least on Windows 10 the Start button is where you'd expect to find it.
This sounds like a similar car crash to the original Windows 8, and I'll bet we'll see silliness like Windows 11.1 or Windows 11 Second Edition to fix all this stuff.
U can change the start menu tho
Well I'm just a beginner in the world of PC's and operating systems. I've referred to TH-cam video's a lot lately especially with Windows 11. I have enjoyed your video's immensely. It be nice if you do something for older computers that have 775 socket motherboards. Yes that's right I do have a gigabyte GA G31 Motherboard. Be nice to see how to bypass secure boot,TPM and CPU compatibility checks to get this system to work so I wouldn't have to replace my motherboard and CPU to a compatible system for Windows 11. Keep the video's coming.
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There are so many usablility issues that have already been fixed in the current Insider builds (Start menu, default browser, flyouts, etc). The current release builds weren't ready for release and now it's feature frozen till the end of this year from what I understand, gonna leave a bad taste for a lot of people. They really need to backport the important changes like setting default browser and start menu changes.
Yes. I completely agree.
Heard they were going to release an update next month. Windows 11 really needs that update badly.
> The current release builds weren't ready for release and now it's feature frozen till the end of this year from what I understand
If that's the case that is absolutely unacceptable from a company like Microsoft. At least Apple knows how to release updates, and that is coming from a pc user of two decades typing on a MacBook.
@@rommix0 From what I understand the "next major version of Windows 11" won't be around till 2022 H2 still. They stopped doing feature updates every 6 months like Windows 10 had. Saying that, I have seen some articles saying they are considering releasing a feature update earlier in the year indepentent of the 22H2 update.
Well, that’s MS for you, look at Halo.
Thanks for bringing up the CPU issue. I've got an i7 7700k and I'm not willing to build a new computer just to run win 11 properly right now. The requirement of having a Microsoft account is also a deal breaker for me.
You don’t need a Microsoft account if you’re already on a local account from Windows 10 + with one simple registry key you can bypass the requirements, although the fact that these requirements exist…
u are never required to upgrade a pc to play around with win11 until win10 has full driver and security updates there is no need for anyone to upgrade, a this point i think even linux is better option than win11
You can switch to a local account after signing in once
i have win11 running on the same cpu i7 7700k runs really nice pretty much the same as win 10 speed wise but with more features or bloat depending on your viewpoint.
Rather keep your i7 and wait until 2025 to upgrade because Microsoft will have probably released windows 12 by then.
"Windows 10 will be the last windows version" they said. Pathetic.
I've been using a third party Windows 7 style start menu since Windows 10 came out, and I rely on windows search more than I ever had with previous operating systems because it's so much easier than searching through things in "settings". Control panel still exists, but they are moving more and more shit into settings and adding dozens of needless clicks. I spent several hours getting my computer windows 11 ready and then decided not to do it, and I'm glad I did.
If you're installing a new operating system, you'll usually spend a few days setting it up before you can start using it. And that's okay.
@@jikol9631 days? Couple hours for me. What cpu you have, a 1 ghz?
@@lonniebeal6032 This is not about computer performance.It's about a lot of third party programs, utilities, compatible theme patches, reconfiguring registries, putting together a nice new rainemeter layout, etc...
Use linux
Are you using classic shell or open shell? Yeah it doesn't work on windows 11 last time i checked.
I think you've summed up my early frustrations with Windows 11 when I bought a new lap top the other year, especially the extra clicking which just wastes time and is fiddly.
Great video, new subscriber here!
I'm still running Windows 10 (21H1) and have a brand new self-built gaming rig with a Asus Dark Hero mb, a Ryzen 9 5950X cpu, an EVGA RTX 3080 FTW3 gpu, 64GB of DDR4, etc... and will NOT be downgrading to the train wreck that is Windows 11. I absolutely hate everything about it. Far, far worse than I disliked the idea of moving from Win7 to 8, 8.1 and 10. Windows 10 has grown on me. I actually LIKE the live tiles, for several reasons. And I like being able to customize my TB as well, of course! So... I'll be staying with 10 until either support ends for it, they radically improve 11 or I switch over to another os.
I switched off TPM, so no update warnings :) my 5950x 32gb 3080 stays on win10 too :)
Its not a train wreck at all. Give it a try.
@@bazahaza I tried it on my work computer, and lost 5-10 minutes of productivity per day.
@@edgarwalk5637 how?
Thank you for bringing up "excessive clicks" ...I mean so many fricking applications require additional clicking for accessing basis things. It's exhausting. AND eats away time.
...and the bloatware 🤯🤯🤯 I fricking despise Microsoft for putting so much crap on my workhorse. Seabiscuit was forced to run with excessive impounds (carrying weights in addition to a jockey) but my laptop shouldn't be forced to do that while I am doing business every day.
It seems like every improvement brings more clicks. It's strange.
@@CyberCPU I just want to point out regarding Bloatware. All windows versions that had Windows for Education build have its means of having mostly clean Windows as legal req for not haveing distracting and non educational applications embed. Would like to see bloatware comparison of Education version vs Pro Version?
Can you give examples of these many click things??
You are so damn right. Microsoft is trying to ruin their OS since after Windows XP. The only solution is to make XP support the latest hardware we have today. Don't wait for Microsoft to do a good OS anymore, they will struggle hard to make it worse.
Windows 7 is great if you know how to low-jack it. In fact, I prefer 7 after learning the ins and outs. Microsoft can take 8,8.1,10 and 11 and shove 'em. =P
@@HTMangaka I agree, I was a late adopter of Win10, and even I have use win10 for more than 5 years now, I still kinda miss windows 7
The taskbar was my deal breaker. My hardware already worked for it. Until I got Start11 from Stardock, I couldn't productively stay in Windows 11. I can't combine taskbar icons and multitask efficiently. I still don't see the why of the upgrade as Windows 10 is still working fine and fast. I don't hate 11 anymore, though. I figured out pretty quickly how to set defaults and turn off what I don't want, but they don't make it easy. I agree 100% on the excessive clicks. The only reason I haven't tweaked that is because, as a tech, I need to (mostly) see what the user is seeing. You're dead on on what's wrong with it.
I gave Win 11 an honest chance, it was my daily driver for a couple months. And like this video, there's about a hundred annoyances I'd encounter every day that just got more and more irritating to have to work around (like the extra clicks and inability to un-group task bar items). One intermittent bug was so bad that the cursor on the screen was off-set a half inch from where the it was actually clicking. How did they mess up something as basic as the Cursor position mapping!? I had to revert to Windows 10. Hopefully some Win 11 R1 comes out soon that fixes all these issues.
A few things I don't like about Windows 11: 1) You cannot group app icons into folders like you could on the Windows 10 start menu. 2) When Microsoft simplified the toolbar & right-click menu in Windows Explore they took away a useful feature: move to & copy to which is used to move files on your PC. 3) Setting the default program or browser is more difficult on Windows 11 then 10. They should have left the same. 4) Widgets don't have third party support and cannot be put on the desktop
There are rumors that 3rd party support will come soon
it's not done yet.
Use linux
@@laseen7809 no
Widgets will eventually disappear like they have after every other attempt to introduce this concept to Windows. Nobody needs or wants them and like live tiles they end up just being overrun by advertisements and clickbait news stories.
I really wish that Microsoft made a version of Windows that was stripped down with no bloatware, telemetry, and all the crap!
linux :D
They do make such a version of Windows. You can buy it, too.
All you need to do first is create a corporation with thousands of employees who will each have their own Windows PC. Then you will be allowed to buy Windows Enterprise version. What could be more simple?
😃
You got Windows Lite OSes, Windows 7, 8, 8.1, 10 and 11 all have those versions.
Good news: they exist.
Bad news: they're not for you. Most iterations are either for enterprises that wouldn't buy regular Windows due to security concerns or are supposed to be sold only for embedded systems.
10 IoT Enterprise LTSC 2021. (Massgravel's MAS; HWID). Illegal (and with caveats beside), but...
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
nice one, dude. keep the stream of good quality info coming!
Great video. Well-presented, and I agree with all. Microsoft has been dumbing down Windows for years, throwing its more PC-literate users under the bus as it makes its OS more marketable to newbies and dumdums. Sigh.
Hate to bring it up but simplifying things for new users is not a bad thing. People should be able to use their OS and feel like they can actually do stuff with it instead of having to constantly call on someone else to teach them. That isn't the issue.
The issue is Microsoft removing features instead of properly streamlining them. Instead of leaving things in that people who know what they're doing can still make use of properly, they remove them entirely so that new or inexperienced users can avoid being "inconvenienced" thereby inconveniencing everyone.
They seem to be under the impression that streamlining the experience means taking out the more complex parts of the OS entirely or hiding them from view instead of... I dunno, making them easier to use and understand. Yet then they bloat the system with unnecessary applications for convenience's sake. Never mind that you could just teach the user organically that they can get TikTok from the Microsoft Store, they need to FORCE IT DOWN THEIR THROAT in the Start menu because people are "too stupid" to be relied upon to use the most widespread and used OS on the market.
So it's not that they're appealing to the newbies and "dumdums" they just seem to think everyone who uses the product has learning disabilities and shouldn't be trusted with navigating their OS on their own for fear they may break their house windows by clicking on them too much or plug living rodents into their USB ports. And don't even get me started on "motherboards" and RAM.
... It's like waterboarding but with... well you get the gist.
My biggest problem with W10 and 11 is that they're slowly wrestling away control. Forcing updates, online accounts, telemetry, etc etc. They know if they do it slowly enough people will accept it. Nearly all those people who have said they will stop using windows if they need an online account will continue to use windows when they require an online account.
It's sad when you need 3rd party applications in order to customize things in new versions of Windows that older versions of Windows offered by default. I absolutely HATE grouping of taskbar tasks. So many older folks can't figure that out and they automatically think that their window just vanished into oblivion and they don't realize they have to just hover over the icon and it'll show their lost window in its stupid grouping feature. That is one of the first things I disable in Windows for most people. Other than that, I can't even use Windows the "official" way because none of my computers will run it by default, even though my main PC would be more than powerful enough to do so.
Just switch to Linux
@@laseen7809 I'm working on it to be truthful. Do you have any recommendation on distros? I'm liking Debian with KDE so far,
@@laseen7809 ...or get rid of "older folks"! They're "useless eaters," after all.
I too have used Windows since 3.1 (and DOS/DR-DOS before). When Win10 came along, I didn't like it, but I have become accustomed to it, and prefer the look and feel of it now. I believe it performs better, but perhaps that is me being gullible. This review made me smile, as I haven't seen any big issues to make me think the whole thing sucks, although I agree with the points you are making. In my opinion, the big thing that needs sorting is the ability for processes to take ~100% of a resource (over the years I have become incredibly annoyed with the "it's incompatible driver" comment). I can't understand how they can't programmatically protect a system so it is always usable.
As for the minimum requirements, I totally understand why MS would want to have a modern OS which is secure as possible. I have assumed the requirements are all to do with TPM 2.0 rather than the processing power of a CPU, or having UEFI. TBH I haven't really read much about the subject, but I understand that it is only the newer CPUs that provide TPM 2.0. That all said, if older CPUs are not suitable, fork off this more secure version, and maintain both.
BTW I installed Win11 on my Pavilion x360. After some time, I wanted to backup a bunch of directories to my NAS ...and it kept failing to copy files. The absolute basic function for a file explorer, other than being able to navigate through your directories and files. After seeing complaints on the internet, I decided to roll back ...only to find that it was limited to 10days, which had passed!!!! Seriously?!?!?!? I had to rebuild my disk ....with no backup of the files!! WHY??????????????????????????????????????????
Now that I think about it, you're absolutely right. "The computer is extremely slow" shouldn't be a thing anymore. It should be the application is extremely slow. Thats definitely something they can improve on from 10. Besides that, I suppose making the search faster and event viewer faster would be great too. A better recovery console would be awesome as well, but I wouldn't hold my breath for that.
Windows 11 home (mistake)
I would like to add OneDrive to the complaint list. It is labeled as an "App", but it is ridiculously difficult to remove if you decide you don't want it on your system. On my computer, it came pre-installed, and was duplicating my data to my fast 256GB SSD instead of the 1TB data drive. I have a lot of "data" and discovered the pathing issue when I noticed my OS drive was ~80% full. I know some people like OD, but I simple have no use for it. Simple, just uninstall it - or so I thought. Nope
Most of these are fine for me. I have Windows 11 on my laptop when I go to campus.
But as someone who is frequently downloading files and moving them onto my flashdrive because I prefer physical storage over cloud.
The lack of drag and drop is a deal-breaker. I miss being able to take my file from downloads, go to the task bar, hover over the minimized window I want, have the window pop up, then drop it in the window. Instead I have to pull up both windows, change their sizes so I have both on screen, then start drag and dropping. Then I have to minimize and maximize the apps again.
Which again, more clicks than necessary for drag and drop. And I use my laptop in tablet mode frequently. So for something being more "touch intuitive" Why can't I drag and drop like every other touch device I own?
I drag and drop for almost everything, as well as cut/paste, copy folders ect.
You can use a program for that to fix the drag and drop
@@omarirsyad I know, but it isn't built in officially, which is annoying.
Try cut and paste. Dragging files is soooooo 80s.
@@hicknopunk funny, I thought drag and drop was a useful feature since you save some clicks.
Microsoft: Windows 10 will be our ultimate, amazing and last hardware we will ever release.
6 hours later: We've now made Windows 11.
2:20 Windows 11 DOES require Secure boot. back when it was first released in beta form you have always needed Secure boot
That was beta
Windows 11 requires you to have the ability to enable secure boot. You need a GPT partition on a UEFI BIOS. You don't actually have to enable secure boot.
@@CyberCPU oh well then shit I need to turn secure boot off
@@WigWoo1 Secure boot has some value against root kits. I don't necessarily recommend turning it off but just find it ironic that Windows 11 doesn't require it to be enabled.
@@CyberCPU agreed
Lol, when it first launched I was notified that I could upgrade. I said, "oh sure, what the hell." Then it ran it's test and told me that despite my CPU being an i7 running at 4.4ghz, my CPU wasn't supported. and I thought, "huh, that's weird.". Now seeing this, I'm so happy it rejected my CPU.
My Windows 11 experience lasted 5 minutes, the time it took to realize that the over 5,000 folders of pictures looked all the same and there's no option to restore the Folder.jpg thingy. Sure, I could use a third-party explorer, but screw that, I thought that this was an improvement!
I can't imagine what you could possibly like about Windows 11? The insert audio bug is rare in 10, but I have always seen it caused by power management of USB hubs or devices. Does disabling power management fix the bug?
I think the best thing is to wait for Windows 12 - hopefully they will make that more like Windows 10 but with rounded corners......
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That has always been the general consensus. M$ will never change.
For Me. my favorite was Windows XP. we had so many issues with Win 2K and Windows ME. XP was the OS we should have gotten. came packed with drivers that worked, that you only had to occasionally get a manufacturers driver. WIdows 7 was good, but definitely had a lot of bugs, mainly between the OS and Office. I skipped 7 and went to 8.2. upgraded to 10. 10 works fantastic and there was no need for Windows 11 this soon. They just need to make more $$$
The "Recommended" section of the start menu might be a menu similar to iOS where it suggests 4 apps you might want to open at a given time. The OS does this by learning what apps and files you use at specific times/places each day. So for instance, if I checked my iPhone as I pulled up to a McDonalds I frequent, it would recommend the McDonalds app. I would suspect that's what this section is for.
That said, Microsoft is leagues behind Apple when it comes to cognitive computing and virtual assistants, so it probably just doesn't work how it should anyways.
i agree with you a problem is computer/desktop are different than phone, microsoft wanted to make windows are part of every tech ecosystem os from dekstop to phone and that not gonna work u see if someone have a phone and desktop they tend to put they really private secret stuff at desktop than phone since phone everyone can reach it cuz for sure people this day bring phone everywhere i know phone put plenty security in there already but people more safer to put they file on desktop or laptop since its bulky or hard to lose than phone , im actually fed up with new explorer quick access since it work same as recommended stuff at windows 11 its show up what did u do what file or program last use is basically dox you to everyone who touch ur desktop and this shit need to stop good shit im removing those thing
Are you talking about the App Stacks? I mean, it takes three seconds to delete that - luckily you can do the same with the news section of MSFT.
yeah that is how 'mostly used apps' means.. we get it. They do not have to call it 'recommended' ffs.
@@_sparrowhawk no, Siri Suggestions it’s called. Can find it by swiping down when on the home screen
Another problem: "frequenting" McDonalds. That will slow your "personal operating system" over time and could lead to serious health issues.
Fully agree with you. Windows 11 is aimed at pushing sales of "New" hardware. 2nd Gen i5 & i7 processors should be able to run Windows 11 perfectly. I'm still happy running Windows 10 on my AMD FX 8 core system that I have for a decade now, and it's running perfectly still.
Nice
win11 would probably run on a pentium 4 just fine
..other than it being slow af
I haven't watched the 'things you love about Windows 11 one yet, but even 'just these few' downsides are plenty for me to tell M$ to go suck a big one for the time being and I'll keep using Windows 10 until either they get their act together, or I am literally forced to switch, because for now, it just seems like yet another one of those unfinished products, that they tried to shove down the user's throat.
Well, either that, or maybe wait for Windows 12, to be the redeeming version, as that still seems to be the M$ trend. Good, bad, good, bad, good, more bad, etc., etc.
You dont have to upgrade even if MS force you to it. There is ways to stop/crash the update and make windows restore the old files again. There is also alternatives to windows you can use. Have gone through my WW3 with microsoft and im tired of it, i told them to F*ck off and removed windows completly. Using a alternative OS as a primary system and i use windows as a "burner OS" aka its all trash and can be reinstalled anytime i feel like it.. no personal accounts or anything important on it
trial and error i guess
There are ways to get around the hardware restraints of Windows 11 but I have chosen to go to a Linux operating system on some older PCs. There are hardware restraints with Linux as well which include what printer or wireless dongle you use.
@@piman2boek364 are you seriously trying to say printer compatibility on linux is worse than windows
@@BetaMaster2 yes. Printer manufacturers all have Windows drivers but don't necessarily have Linux drivers. My older HP printer and new wireless HP printer don't have drivers that work with Linux. My guess is if I had purchased an HP printer that attaches directly to my Linux PC it would have worked.
I hella agree with that point about settings. I find way too many times when I'm troubleshooting I sometimes sit there playing with the settings menu until I inevitably get frustrated and open the control panel to get it done.
every time i see a Win11 video and the system in action, it makes me even more sure that i'll NEVER willingly use this garbage unless i absolutely have to upgrade.
they turned a perfectly functional computer from 7 and 8.1 to a kids first fischer price toy with this new version of windows. it drives me nuts as a designer the quantity of designer sins this thing has, but the worst of all is the sound suite. it is ridiculously soft and annoying. not every sound needs to be that way. if a bug happens, i want a hard crunch to know something has gone wrong not a "oopsie doopsie" sound this garbage does.
2025
8.1 was garbage deadass
theres light programs you can get to customize the look completely, imo best version of windows if you set it up right. i pirated phoenix lite build and it runs on my 6th gen intel games the best and it looks like windows7 with the startallback program