@20marvelman well it didn't help when Woolie was trying to tell a story about being player 2 or 3, and Matt was just being a shit about it. Anybody doing that just once would pretty much end my desire to ever interact with them forever.
I had the weirdest childhood in terms of games. My first games were Tekken 3 and Gran Turismo because that's what my dad played, but I was like 7 so I like them but really didn't grasp them. The first game that really grasped me was my dad's feind let me play Mario Kart 64, and thus I asked for a 64 for Christmas. So for a while I was a Nintendo fanboy... kind of. Cause i asked for a GameCube when it was first shown, but my paretns got me a PS2 because they wanted me to have a DVD player but knew I wnated games too. So I played PS2 but really only played PS1 games like Tekken and Gran Turismo. I wasn't interested in Final Fantasy at all for some reason even though I love it now. Next year I got a GameCube, played it for the longest and started to ignore PS2 for a while. Then Kingdom Hearts came out, then Psychoanust came out. Those were my main PS2 games.
@@NamesSmeg Jak 3 was trying too many things at once so it felt like a mess. Heck, they even gave Jak way too many tools in combat so you felt super overpowered too. Lol
Ehh fuck their judgmental asses; sorry, but of all the first games to judge I really don't get hating on that one, even the ones that starts with F or O? I wouldn't assume so much about them based on that *first ever,* we all had to start somewhere, and they're really not that embarrassing compared to some other choices; people their past selves, others' younger lives and kids in general way too hard.
It’s a pretty good first game mine was Pokémon blue from what I remember and even the earlier versions of minecraft make that look like pong in comparison
@@jackgebhardt2932 I guess it's debatable. I mainly just had a problem with how drastically it seemed to change between games. I'd rather they pick one and stick w it.
The Dreamcast and Xbox are fine to go back to, but actually owning one sucked a good chunk of the time. Stores tended to have much smaller seletions for those two, especially the Dreamcast. Yeah, there were cool cult classics, but they were nonexistent on store shelves after a bit. You could definitely get a copy of Alien Front Online, Sonic Adventure, Samba de Amigo, and 2K sports games because they'd have a million each of those.
my family had the NES when I was too young to hold a controller, then I have distinct memories of playing Barbie on SNES and watching my brother scream at M. Bison on Super SF 2. after a brief disastrous flirtation with the Dreamcast, we switched to Sony for the main consoles, but that’s where my brother and I split loyalties re: handhelds; he had the Vita and PSP, while I went through every Gameboy and DS (except the 3DS). he most recently jumped back to Nintendo with the Switch, and now we’re both PC gamers. I think it ultimately came down to portability; I spent four hours a day on mass transit, and my brother spent the majority of his adult life on Naval ships, so it was just easier.
I got a n64 when I was like 7 and was so amazed by all the great games even DK 64 as my first game ever. But because of where I lived I had no knowledge of any other game console or game maker so when I got an Xbox instead of a GameCube I was super confused
Man going back listening to these it's so much more apparent how often Matt would turn a conversation to be about himself when he had nothing to contribute or would try to put down others for things they liked or wanted to talk about like when Woolie mentioned a short film and Matt got pissy because Woolie mentioned it on Twitter. He really was the Opie of the group.
That was him getting pissy about the short film woolie tweeted about?? That's the least aggressive "pissy" thing I think anyone has ever done. It didn't even break the flow or was out of place or anything, I think you're blowing things out of proportion because of the break-up
Really weird hearing Liam praise Mario Land 2 over Mario Land 1, when my reaction is exactly the opposite. I adore Mario Land as a fundamental part of my childhood, and the fact that the "sequel" chose to throw away most of the unique design elements that define the game so that it could be a weaker version of Mario World.
i bought my ps3 because i NEEDED Mgs4. my psn account birthday is a month wrong because i was a month too young to make the account. Sony could murder babies and i would still buy playstation, my hands are dualshock shaped 😂
crossy28 So I hadn't played video games since Metal Gear Solid on PlayStation. MGS4 was my first purchase when I got back into gaming. I cried when I went back to Shadow Moses. Still my favorite moment in all of gaming.
sly 4 is alright but but but but but but but , the sabar tooth costume is soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo broke you could beat all the bosses that sly has to stock in the last 2 games , which is in sly cooper 2-3 . like the worst part of sly coooper games is after you play all the mission and got soooooooo used to the missions and the area you miss having the missions but you don't want to reply them you just want to continue the story
Ugh, my fanboy phases were so horribly misguided...first Sony PS2 and Nintendo DS/GBA because it was all I knew, it transferred to Nintendo 64/GameCube/Wii and Mario, then PS3/Sonic/Gran Turismo which I get but it was still elitist and insufferable, but even by then that was up to 2011 as I started to mature, and I never made accounts or put up comments ever, only getting into a fight on a Roblox chat once, which I still regret and hate, but it was 2009 and I was hot-headed and my passion was misdirected. For an elementary school kid with relative freedom online at that time I could have done infinitely worse. Finally a certain religion, political stance or two, and race drivers in and around 2012-2015, but I started to grow up and understand...except that I was still a fanboy, just with political ideologies/parties in through 2016-2017, then I tried to mostly get off posting on social media from 2018 onward to stop my loudmouthing, wishy-washy hypocrisy. Now I feel a lot more justified but at least self-aware of the political-philosophical fanboyisms I have as of now...but holy fuck, my video game fanboy-isms were rough. Ugh, bless my younger self, he was doing his best, I forgive him, he was misled and trying his best, but I'm glad he mostly was on the right track sooner or later.
My Console History Gameboy Color (3 years-old) Gamecube (five years old) Gameboy Advance SP (Seven?) PSP (Missing, found, no longer works) Nintendo DS (got stolen, then returned in a brown paper bag, still missing my poke pearl game) Wii (Got board, put in storage) Xbox 360 (recommended by cousin) PS4 (Current, got due to Microsoft E3 debacle) Soon to get 3DS Vita Scorpio (Xbone)
I am, and will always be, a huge fan of Nintendo. growing up from 1992 onward my older sister and I would play in the NES all the time, but around 96-97 I was introduced to the PlayStation when my sister got it. From there I was introduced to Crash Bandicoot, Spyro, and Tomb Raider. From there my interest in PlayStation began, but I was still a Nintendo fanboy. I think a few months to a year later I got the N64 and I got the best of both worlds. I later got the GameCube and remained a Nintendo fan for the longest, even forgoing the PS2 thanks to SSB Melee and Super Mario Sunshine, but my PlayStation fanboyism began to return when the PS2 had Tekken Tag Tournament and 5, Devil May Cry and Metal Gear Solid 2 and 3. Since then I've regretted not getting a PS2. It was when the Wii and PSP was released when I actually wanted to get a PS3 because of Tekken 6 (at the time there was no word of it coming for the Xbox 360). so I got the Wii and later the PS3. since then I've been a dual Nintendo and PlayStation fan. And yes that also means I don't care about Xbox (not too many exclusives, Halo lost ist steam when 4 was released, never like Gears, and Killer Instinct came out on PC)
Pip IV Jak and Sly were strictly platformers. Ratchet and Clank was a level up in the genre. By introducing weapons into platforming, combat wasn't limited to close quarters. It added a shmup aspect to an already successful genre. Later iterations of the game took advantage of its near-perfect controls and was unofficially the first series to birth what is now known as "horde mode". All 3 are great games, but R&C stands in a sub-genre of its own.
Nintendo gets ridiculed now for "making the same game 15 times" because their most creative ideas (like Sunshine) are the most hated. You're allowed to not like it, and I like it but agree on many problems, but honestly I'd rather they attempt different things like it than give us Mario 64 2. Galaxy was cool and all, but mechanically felt too safe and, heck, was very linear, which Mairo 64 definitely wasn't, so meh I don't get it.
ShyRanger Like, Sunshine was a good idea, I would've loved more use of the gimmicks it presented, but many of the levels completely ignored FLUDD and the graffiti.
OoT is okay at best, MM is the best Zelda imo. Sunshine is better than 64 but at first I didn't like it. After going back to both games I can confrim Sunshine is better. Sly Cooper is lit af. I assume none of these guys played Spyro, which was good better than Banjo and especially better than Banjo Tooie. Jak and Daxter suck, Pat is right Rachet and Clank were great. Spyro 2 though, that was good. Never played Spyro 3, gotta do that some time soon. Winder Waker is also better than OoT just took all the man children crying over the art style a few years to realize it.
My favourite console is video games.
That's legit, dude.
Hey, me too.
Bídeogmaes
Preach
I fucking love Sly Cooper, the Paris theme is imprinted into my mind
18:57 Matt got sandbagged so thoroughly sandbagged that he gave up by the time he uttered the word "Forward".
Yeah I didn’t realize it at the time but apparently the guys were kinda annoyed Matt pushing certain jokes when they were stale.
@@20marvelman Well, when all he has are half assed jokes, and Simpsons references, it's kinda hard to not knock the plate from the table.
@20marvelman well it didn't help when Woolie was trying to tell a story about being player 2 or 3, and Matt was just being a shit about it.
Anybody doing that just once would pretty much end my desire to ever interact with them forever.
Hmm I was trying to think of my favorite duo-based Sony exclusive semi-platformer but I seem to forget it...
Pokemon?
Chio Chan Genocide YES
ratchet and clank
@@Mr.Faust3 no Abby & Ellie
I had the weirdest childhood in terms of games. My first games were Tekken 3 and Gran Turismo because that's what my dad played, but I was like 7 so I like them but really didn't grasp them. The first game that really grasped me was my dad's feind let me play Mario Kart 64, and thus I asked for a 64 for Christmas. So for a while I was a Nintendo fanboy... kind of. Cause i asked for a GameCube when it was first shown, but my paretns got me a PS2 because they wanted me to have a DVD player but knew I wnated games too. So I played PS2 but really only played PS1 games like Tekken and Gran Turismo. I wasn't interested in Final Fantasy at all for some reason even though I love it now. Next year I got a GameCube, played it for the longest and started to ignore PS2 for a while. Then Kingdom Hearts came out, then Psychoanust came out. Those were my main PS2 games.
Woolie, for me, each Jak or Ratchet game I was like "Fuck, I GOTTA HAVE THAT!" lol
Jak 1 and 2 will always have a place in my heart. Bought 3, but It didn't feel the same.
@@NamesSmeg Jak 3 was trying too many things at once so it felt like a mess. Heck, they even gave Jak way too many tools in combat so you felt super overpowered too. Lol
@@tailedgates9 In Jak 2, I could survive for hours when the metalheads invade. In Jak 3, I die from pitfalls more, if nothing else.
@@NamesSmeg Oh man some of Jak 3's platforming was wack too. Lol But I did like the new Haven City sewers. :)
The first game I played was Minecraft and every time I say that it kills everyone in the room like a radioactive blast.
Fucking killed me.
LittleFireStarter I’ve been playing so long I legit can’t remember. My earliest memory has to be metal slug 3 and marvel vs capcom 2 on a console
Ehh fuck their judgmental asses; sorry, but of all the first games to judge I really don't get hating on that one, even the ones that starts with F or O? I wouldn't assume so much about them based on that *first ever,* we all had to start somewhere, and they're really not that embarrassing compared to some other choices; people their past selves, others' younger lives and kids in general way too hard.
It’s a pretty good first game mine was Pokémon blue from what I remember and even the earlier versions of minecraft make that look like pong in comparison
thats wild, even as a child in the early 2000's i had an n64 and ps1, or at least played one
sly cooper 3 is amazing
This is a rib right? It's kind of lackluster compared to sly 2
asilva5021 My favourite game of all time
I really didn't like Carmelita's voice in 3. I think the one in 2 really complemented her character. Her gameplay sections were a blast, though.
@@roflcopter_launchpad1116 Really? I thought she was at her best in 3.
@@jackgebhardt2932 I guess it's debatable. I mainly just had a problem with how drastically it seemed to change between games. I'd rather they pick one and stick w it.
I like how these guys' parent call games the Nintendo and nowadays parents call games the PlayStation or the Xbox
mine just say "your game"
The Dreamcast and Xbox are fine to go back to, but actually owning one sucked a good chunk of the time. Stores tended to have much smaller seletions for those two, especially the Dreamcast. Yeah, there were cool cult classics, but they were nonexistent on store shelves after a bit. You could definitely get a copy of Alien Front Online, Sonic Adventure, Samba de Amigo, and 2K sports games because they'd have a million each of those.
my family had the NES when I was too young to hold a controller, then I have distinct memories of playing Barbie on SNES and watching my brother scream at M. Bison on Super SF 2. after a brief disastrous flirtation with the Dreamcast, we switched to Sony for the main consoles, but that’s where my brother and I split loyalties re: handhelds; he had the Vita and PSP, while I went through every Gameboy and DS (except the 3DS). he most recently jumped back to Nintendo with the Switch, and now we’re both PC gamers. I think it ultimately came down to portability; I spent four hours a day on mass transit, and my brother spent the majority of his adult life on Naval ships, so it was just easier.
I got a n64 when I was like 7 and was so amazed by all the great games even DK 64 as my first game ever. But because of where I lived I had no knowledge of any other game console or game maker so when I got an Xbox instead of a GameCube I was super confused
I love the sly cooper games. I wish Sanzaru could make a sly 5. I know sucker punch is done with it. That game series got me into gaming alot more.
I think those games should come forward forever. Those are playstation games to me children should grow up with.
The only argument people made when I was growing up was what was better, SMB2 or Sonic 2 ; or SF2 or MK2.
Man going back listening to these it's so much more apparent how often Matt would turn a conversation to be about himself when he had nothing to contribute or would try to put down others for things they liked or wanted to talk about like when Woolie mentioned a short film and Matt got pissy because Woolie mentioned it on Twitter. He really was the Opie of the group.
Woof….that’s a comparison….I have to think about this
That was him getting pissy about the short film woolie tweeted about?? That's the least aggressive "pissy" thing I think anyone has ever done. It didn't even break the flow or was out of place or anything, I think you're blowing things out of proportion because of the break-up
Really weird hearing Liam praise Mario Land 2 over Mario Land 1, when my reaction is exactly the opposite. I adore Mario Land as a fundamental part of my childhood, and the fact that the "sequel" chose to throw away most of the unique design elements that define the game so that it could be a weaker version of Mario World.
ML2 is a better Mario game but ML1 is a better game.
i bought my ps3 because i NEEDED Mgs4. my psn account birthday is a month wrong because i was a month too young to make the account. Sony could murder babies and i would still buy playstation, my hands are dualshock shaped 😂
crossy28 So I hadn't played video games since Metal Gear Solid on PlayStation. MGS4 was my first purchase when I got back into gaming. I cried when I went back to Shadow Moses. Still my favorite moment in all of gaming.
i bought my ps4 for the same reason, except with bloodborne
Ps2 is the goat
sly 4 is alright but but but but but but but , the sabar tooth costume is soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo broke you could beat all the bosses that sly has to stock in the last 2 games , which is in sly cooper 2-3 . like the worst part of sly coooper games is after you play all the mission and got soooooooo used to the missions and the area you miss having the missions but you don't want to reply them you just want to continue the story
My brothers and i were xbox boys till the xbone....we have 2 ps4s now
You think you could find the clips where they talk about the First 48?
That was so good, when they talk about Tyrone moving in the frozen time
Ugh, my fanboy phases were so horribly misguided...first Sony PS2 and Nintendo DS/GBA because it was all I knew, it transferred to Nintendo 64/GameCube/Wii and Mario, then PS3/Sonic/Gran Turismo which I get but it was still elitist and insufferable, but even by then that was up to 2011 as I started to mature, and I never made accounts or put up comments ever, only getting into a fight on a Roblox chat once, which I still regret and hate, but it was 2009 and I was hot-headed and my passion was misdirected. For an elementary school kid with relative freedom online at that time I could have done infinitely worse. Finally a certain religion, political stance or two, and race drivers in and around 2012-2015, but I started to grow up and understand...except that I was still a fanboy, just with political ideologies/parties in through 2016-2017, then I tried to mostly get off posting on social media from 2018 onward to stop my loudmouthing, wishy-washy hypocrisy. Now I feel a lot more justified but at least self-aware of the political-philosophical fanboyisms I have as of now...but holy fuck, my video game fanboy-isms were rough. Ugh, bless my younger self, he was doing his best, I forgive him, he was misled and trying his best, but I'm glad he mostly was on the right track sooner or later.
My Console History
Gameboy Color (3 years-old)
Gamecube (five years old)
Gameboy Advance SP (Seven?)
PSP (Missing, found, no longer works)
Nintendo DS (got stolen, then returned in a brown paper bag, still missing my poke pearl game)
Wii (Got board, put in storage)
Xbox 360 (recommended by cousin)
PS4 (Current, got due to Microsoft E3 debacle)
Soon to get
3DS
Vita
Scorpio (Xbone)
I love sly cooper 1 and 2. Sly cooper 3 wasn't as good as sly 1 and 2.
I am, and will always be, a huge fan of Nintendo. growing up from 1992 onward my older sister and I would play in the NES all the time, but around 96-97 I was introduced to the PlayStation when my sister got it. From there I was introduced to Crash Bandicoot, Spyro, and Tomb Raider. From there my interest in PlayStation began, but I was still a Nintendo fanboy. I think a few months to a year later I got the N64 and I got the best of both worlds. I later got the GameCube and remained a Nintendo fan for the longest, even forgoing the PS2 thanks to SSB Melee and Super Mario Sunshine, but my PlayStation fanboyism began to return when the PS2 had Tekken Tag Tournament and 5, Devil May Cry and Metal Gear Solid 2 and 3. Since then I've regretted not getting a PS2. It was when the Wii and PSP was released when I actually wanted to get a PS3 because of Tekken 6 (at the time there was no word of it coming for the Xbox 360). so I got the Wii and later the PS3. since then I've been a dual Nintendo and PlayStation fan. And yes that also means I don't care about Xbox (not too many exclusives, Halo lost ist steam when 4 was released, never like Gears, and Killer Instinct came out on PC)
mah fisher
I absolutely adored sly cooper and jak and daxter..... but ratchet and clank was really a bore.
Pip IV Jak and Sly were strictly platformers. Ratchet and Clank was a level up in the genre. By introducing weapons into platforming, combat wasn't limited to close quarters. It added a shmup aspect to an already successful genre. Later iterations of the game took advantage of its near-perfect controls and was unofficially the first series to birth what is now known as "horde mode". All 3 are great games, but R&C stands in a sub-genre of its own.
We can at least agree that all 3 platformers are masterpieces and deserve more care and attention than 80% of other franchises. :D lol
3:45
God, fuck Mario Sunshine.
Nintendo gets ridiculed now for "making the same game 15 times" because their most creative ideas (like Sunshine) are the most hated. You're allowed to not like it, and I like it but agree on many problems, but honestly I'd rather they attempt different things like it than give us Mario 64 2. Galaxy was cool and all, but mechanically felt too safe and, heck, was very linear, which Mairo 64 definitely wasn't, so meh I don't get it.
ShyRanger
Like, Sunshine was a good idea, I would've loved more use of the gimmicks it presented, but many of the levels completely ignored FLUDD and the graffiti.
Fair enough
fuck YOU
it was ok, but even my 12 year old self was like "wow, I can't tell why but this just isn't as good as 64 for some reason"
Sony fo' Lyfe. First console ever was the PS1. Also, fuck Nintendo! (except Punch Out)
OoT is okay at best, MM is the best Zelda imo. Sunshine is better than 64 but at first I didn't like it. After going back to both games I can confrim Sunshine is better. Sly Cooper is lit af. I assume none of these guys played Spyro, which was good better than Banjo and especially better than Banjo Tooie. Jak and Daxter suck, Pat is right Rachet and Clank were great. Spyro 2 though, that was good. Never played Spyro 3, gotta do that some time soon. Winder Waker is also better than OoT just took all the man children crying over the art style a few years to realize it.
lol cool 😊