Thank you so much for this video!! Just finished an Audi Q5. 1st time i have done rear pads on a vehicle with electric parking brake. Wouldn't have known what I was up against. I really appreciate you taking the time to make/share this video.
Now it's old, 2003-07 E320 with SBC (sensotronic brake control) Mercedes , you had to use the factory X entry scantool to deactivate electronic brakes, front and rear, install new wear sensors, and reset with scantool ( and never open the car door or else calipers activates). It could be bypassed too, but I didn't think a EPB could. Learned a good lesson here. I was about to order the cheapest scantool for a EPB equipped vw jetta (Obdeleven) and came across this video, this southern mechanic is the man. It's not a full tutorial as was said, it's great though...you saved me big bucks. best regards southern mechanic!!
Thank you!!! Yes I agree especially when people top off the brake fluid as the brakes wear then when you push the caliper pistons back in then you have a mess at the master cylinder lol, thanks for watching 😊
Best video ever! My god, you saved me hundreds of dollars, Southern Mechanic. After opening the pistons of my wife's 2014 Audi Q5, using my scan tool, somehow the EPB got engaged again. I didn't realize this until I removed the left rear caliper, then could not screw the piston the rest of the way in using my Schwaben brake caliper tool set which I've used for years. It was then that I noticed the blinking EPB light in the cabin. And with the brake system taken apart, I could not disengage the EPB. And the piston was out too far to put the old pads back in. Your video was my last hope, and it worked perfectly. I've had all the children that I'm going to have, sir, but I think I will adopt a baby and name him Southern Mechanic in gratitude to you!
@@SouthernMechanic I've made many DIY threads on Audizine where I've been a member for some ten years, but your video goes above and beyond because it helps people who are really stuck in a no-win situation. I just want to emphasize what a difference that you have made to my wrenching life today. If you're ever in Minnesota, let me know. I will take you out to dinner and drinks, my treat. :)
Hey, you are a freakin genius! I drive an Audi and will try this on my car when time to replace the rear brakes. Appreciate your time for sharing the video. You just saved me at least $300 from buying the computer and taking to dealer.
Saved my day mate. Just a 20 min ago happened to my passat, ive heard about these faults but never thought that it would happen to me. 15 min job. Thank you a lot.
Ranj Singh thanks for the kind comment and you are welcome, im not sure on the brake bleeding part, I have heard that some people bleed the brake system the best they can then somehow trigger the abs system then bleed it again to get the rest of the air out but I have never personally tried it so I can't say for sure
I'm doing a A6 right now and got stuck on this part .THANKS for this vid. I been doing brakes for years but this is the first time I've seen this electronic crap
Thank you! On my Tiguan I was precisely at the step where you simply rotate the mechanism with the T in the electronic control... But I thought I had to take the whole servo apart... So I put everything back together, put the pads back in the box, and walked away. Then I found your video! Well, I'm glad I didn't take the e-brake mechanism apart but I'm even MORE glad I saw your video! Thank you, my man. I hated that electronic brake from the moment I saw it!
Awesome, Thanks! I work at an import dealer and none of our scanners would open the brake calipers. $3000 computer available and I had to watch youtube to figure out this repair.
Hey, man. Just want to come back and say that this method worked like a charm on my '11 Audi A4 (B8). I can honestly say that I can get a little chicken shit when it comes to circumventing diagnostic tools, but this was a piece if cake. Some others have noted, and I'll repeat...use a slight smearing of synthetic grease on the O-ring for the parking brake motor housing...it will slip right back on. When I say a smear, I mean the smallest amount just to allow the two assemblies to slide back together. Parking brake worked just fine after the pads were replaced. Thanks, man!
@@johnkenny4017 no, I compressed it manually but that did create an issue with the system thinking the piston was in a different location. You need to be sure to physically return it to the same state. Lik many things there is more than one way to do something. Each can have pluses and minuses.
@@webberrify yeah these electronic parking brakes are totally insane no reason for him whatsoever just greed on the car manufacturers part thanks for response
@@johnkenny4017 I do prefer mechanical systems as the simplicity is my preference. I wonder if it is a result of not having a straight line to run cable based on unibody designs or other factors. Like drive by wire systems being used for years on throttle bodies. That appears to give engineers some flexibility, but trickles complexity down to techs and DIYers.
I have been a tech for over 50 years and here is a little trick to make this job a little easier. unplug the connector on the e-brake motor. make 2 jumper wires with 1/4 female spade connectors. hook onto terminals of motor. connect jumper wires to 12 volt power source and motor will run. If it applies the e-brake, just reverse the wires and the motor will back-off on the e-brake. then you can push the pistons in and install the pads. when you are done just pump-up the brakes and then cycle the e-brake switch on and release 3 times and it will automatically adjusts the e-brake.. Done---quick and easy. Joe
No fault codes afterwards? Did it this way one time, car had a error code on brakes and had to send client to another shop to clear that code, because our guy was on vacation. From that time on we don't service brakes if our electrician is not on the spot.
OMG THANK YOU FOR THIS!!! I was dreading changing the brake pads on my S6 since I read everywhere you needed the VAG-COM. I can finally get rid of the brake squeals without going to the dealer. Dealer wanted $249 just for labor not including parts for the rear only!
VAG COM gives a commission to videos or people that state in their videos that you need to use their software in order to do the repair. It’s kinda shady but yeah
THANKYOU!!! I was seriously panicking when the hand brake got stuck on while changing the pads (first time trying!) and thsi video must have saved me a fortune in rip-off repairs. You're a legend! BTW, this worked for a Renault Grand Scenic 3 perfectly.
Thankyou, was worried about doing rear discs and pads without VAG. This method 100% works. 2016 plate Audi A3 Sline. If doing the discs as well as pads. Make sure you have a small M14 spline bit. Only 1 I had was about 1.5 inch long out of my set I couldn't get my socket on it, kept fouling on the surroundings. Had to run to Machinemart for a small stubby one. Other than that was perfect. Once brakes pads in, connect all up again, turn electric handbrake off and on till calibrated. Check it's solid and cannot spin while handbrake on, and off ya go. Great video
Thank you. I own a 2009 VW CC 3.6L 4motion. I was able to do it without removing the caliper. Getting to the torx 30 screws was a pain in the rear, but it was worth it. I realized that the torx 40 screw to relieve the pressure doesn't have enough grip, so it is time to replace both calipers. For now, car is drivable and I will budget my calipers for the next 30 days instead of running a $500 emergency expense. Greetings from Minnesota!
Many thanks for this video instruction. I used it on my Audi A6 avant 2012. It is so easy when someone explains very clearly how to do it. Great job!! I saved a lot of money with only 1 hour work. Once again THNX
good info bro! i was a dealer tech at BMW 86 to 2013 they had this on new models. I had to scan the whole car then put the brakes into a service mode to change the pads.
Thanks a bunch, just done them on my grand scenic 3. Couldn't get the piston in far enough for 2 new meaty pads so used one new and one old with meat left on it. Will revisit in the summer! Great video
i can vouch, not a single error message. just be sure to be on flat ground the 1st time you engage the handbrake the first time after doing it to reset everything and ur good to go
Surprised no one mentioned disconnecting the connector on the motor and applying 12V to the pins while the caliper is still installed. It will either retract and release the parking brake or expand out locking the parking brake. If it retracts, you're good to go to the next step. If it locks, reverse the polarity of the 12V and it will retract. Takes less than 2 min. Once retracted, you can remove the caliper and replace pads & rotors as usual. When you're done with pad/rotor replacement, start the car and manually apply and release the parking brake a few times so it sets in correctly. No need to remove the motor from the caliper.
thanks. this video saved my bacon last night. working on a 2016 Mazda CX5 and the piston would not go down no matter what even though it was in maintenance mode. Mazda (luckily for me) uses allen screws instead of torx. I didn't have any big torx available. I was able to get the brakes back on after i did this. otherwise my car would have still been up on a jack today.
i bought the pads thinking " ive done vw/audis how hard can it be" never thought about silly electric handbrake till now. Great video taking mechanics back to mechanical rather than £3 grand diagnosic machine rip off nonsense.
I did the job last week following this procedure and had no problems whatsoever, I didnt stick the battery on charge as vw say you should. This is a great video.......
your video is the answer, thank you very much. new cars now a days ussually using parking e-brakes which disc brakes are easier to work on but they seems ebrakes makes it complicated. i worked 1 on a friends car but i did not continue replacing the rotors and pads i just lubricate the slider pins and all stack up and no way to push back the piston. poor friend of mine uses and runs his car with stack up brake pads. God bless and more power.
Southern Mechanic, hats off to you and many thanks for this video. This worked perfectly and I did not have to do anything with the electronic EPB controller as some of the You Tube video's have cautioned about re-calibration. It's a DC gear motor with torque settings I am not sure what they think would have to be re-calibrated.
Robert Smith exactly!!!! it knows when to shut off when the motor stops when it pushes against the pad because the current draw rises and the computer senses this and shuts off power to the motor after it loads up against the brake pad, thanks for watching
YOU DA MAN!!!! holy crap, thought I was losing my mind when I couldn't compress the piston. This is my first German car ... might be my last :) Thankfully I saw your vid. Worked perfect. Did have to fight one of the Torx screws, but car is 8 years old. BTW, I found a 6mm hex bit worked on the motor screw just fine on my '09 A4 Quattro.
gkwillmott haha glad I could help, I haven't had the screws stick yet but like you say after 8 years I'd say they will get a little seized, thanks for watching
Make sure to lube the o-ring before reassembling the motor to the caliper. I didn't and in my attempt to reseat the seal, I snapped the plastic flange/wing off the motor housing that the bolts pass through. Not a huge deal but I could have avoided replacing another part by paying attention to the details. Other than that, this process worked perfectly! Thanks for posting Southern M.
"Vaseline or other petroleum products should never be used on rubber or neoprene objects. It can deteriorate the rubber or neoprene very rapidly. The correct lube to use is a silicone based lubricant, which comes with or without Teflon. This is available in spa or pool stores. You can also use the silicone spray for MagLights and other applications, especially if the weather is cold." Not sure what these o-rings are made from but maybe a different lubricant would be better? Maybe that stuff you use on headlights that comes in a little packet? I think that's made from silicon but not sure.
It all depend on what kind of material the seal is made of... Normaly in an application like this it´s Nitrile (NBR) and that stand petrolium based grease just fine. It might even be Viton...
I used this method on a 2014 Jaguar F Type....worked exactly the same as yours did.....thanks for posting it. I have two scanners that are suppose to work on the Jag to retract the EPB, but neither one worked...Both from Autel....EBS301 / MK 808
MRM thanks for the kind comment, there was another person who left a similar comment as yours saying that he had a very expensive computer and it wouldn't retract the epb either and he used my method, thanks for watching
You are SO the MAN! About to give it a try on '07 Audi A8. Another vid showed doing it with the VagCom, recommended just for seeing the other bits on an A8. But you are going to save me SOOOO much money, and I'm getting really nice slotted & drilled rotors at the same time.
How many of you owned a 20 to 25 year old car with ABS? If you have then you would know they light up and fixing them properly is very expensive. They can also cause the car to fail road worthy. Now that is just 1 electronic component, how about adding more electronics to the mix like lane keeping assist, brake assist etc? These cars will be in the Junk Yard earlier than the cars of the 90's and 00's (12-15 years tops, half the time it took the previous generation to be scrapped).
Will this work on a 2018 Buick Enclave? Problem I’m having is the caliper won’t slide off the pads since the plastic EPB housing is large and hits the bracket on the way out which is frustrating. Can’t find any information online on the procedure besides your video. I’m only trying to grease brake pad contacts since they squeal but will want to change my own rotors/pads in the future like I’ve always done. Thanks for the video!
Sorry about the late reply, youtube changed their notification system and they don't show up like they use to, it should work of it is set up the same way, this method will work on most EPB systems, thanks for watching!!!
Nice ! What was the model of your car ? I have a 2015 a3 sline . Wanna know if it show you some ight in the dash because you retract the actuator mechanicly and not with a scanner?
Awesome video - thanks heaps, done plenty of VW brakes, none with EPC :-) - about to do my B6 - R36. Joseph - love your 12v elec tip, but this vid is the best option if you arent that elec savvy and maybe worried about burning out the servo motor - NOTE - for those of you using the 12V method - make sure it's a 12V - DC powersupply :-) obvious to some i know. Very Very handy to know that pistons dont have that silly locking mechanism, that needs winding back - PHEW!!
Thanks for a great video! Just replaced my pads and it works, BUT I get error on my handbrake now. I can feel how the left side locks the wheels, while the right side doesen't. Just one question, when I turned the torx clockwise to return the piston. On the right side, I turned it all the way back, but not on the left. I just pushed it back enought to fit back. I guess that's why they're not brake eaven. What shall I do? Turn both pistons all the way back and re-do all the job? Please help me out buddy. Thanks!
Aleks K I have never had that happen but I would try to turn them in the release position as far as they will go until they stop then reinstal the gear box onto the caliper and try it again, also make sure the gear box goes back on in the correct potision without binding up and also make sure a wire or connector didn't come loose while you were working on it, you may have pinched/cut a wire or pulled a connector loose without realising it
I actually did disconnect the connectors while working with the brakes :( So what will that cause? I will try to reinstall everything so that both pistons are all the way back (to have same base position) and then turn the brakes on.
I have to appologise for my comment. I was a real fool. As I wrote, I disconnected while I was working with the brakes. I'm embaressed to tell that I forgot to connect on one side :/ But I still did the both sides with max return of the piston and now everything works fine. Once agan, sorry for bothering, but most of all, thanks once again for sharing this video! Cheers!
I had a question,on a few land rover videos, people disconnected the cable while the car is running and the parking brake released then turning the car off versus doing it like you do,whats the difference? could it be thats how it works better on those cars versus a VW for example or these parking brake motors are about the same on every new car? i figured if the car's parking brake is on when you remove the motor like you do isn't it under tension? me like a million other people have been doing brake jobs for years and are not really up to par with this electronic brake situation, thank you for your input.
Perfect thanks to let us know how to release the electric piston breaks I have Acura TLX 2015, the dealership want replace the rear pads breaks just for labor $250!!! thank you
Once you unwind the motor back and push piston back, then replace the pads and disc, do you just function the electric handbrake and it will set itself?
Can i just use my caliper wind back tool to wind the piston back in place instead of taking of the electronic parking brake motor? Thanks for the video.
Sorry for the late reply but TH-cam for some reason just now notified me of your message but no you will have to take the motor assembly off and wind it that way because the thread system is in the opposite side with this setup, thanks for watching
@@SouthernMechanic no problem. I finally got the anchor plate bolts loose on one side without breaking them and then went to take off the motor and the torx head stripped on both bolts. So now i just got a scanner in today for the wife's car.
Anthony Bombaci there are a few different types of parking brake for passenger cars, usually either they will have drum brakes, electric park brakes like shown here or calipers with a piston that you have to screw in while compressing that will have a manually activated park brake via cable hooked into a lever on the back side of the caliper but I don't ever recall seeing a caliper that had a electric park brake and a screw in piston but I could be wrong but I would say that if you have an electric button you push to engage your park brake then it should be the system that is shown in my video but if you have a lever to pull to engage your park brake then you will have a caliper with a screw in piston, hope this helps
Southern Mechanic thank you for the speedy reply. The Tiguan that I speak of has an an electronic parking brake & what appears to be a 3 pronged screw in rear caliper piston. I'm going to revisit the caliper on Sunday - so I will send you an update on the results. Great job on this video, by the way... Very informative & a big money saver.
Mathieu Lavallee as long as it's the 2 wire electric park brake motor (which it should be) then it should be the same but I haven't done this job on that particular vehicle so I'm not 100% sure, thanks for watching
will this work on a vauxhall insignia 2016. i should think it would would work on any car with electric park brake motor. great video southern mechanic a true money saver
Alan Dean yes as long as it is electric park brake it should work as long as it's the 2 wire system, all of the electric park brakes I have done like this have been the same, thanks for watching
3/4 actually stripped, but i managed to get 2 out using a chisel and rotating, and the last i just left in there. going to drill through next time but i didn't have a torch to heat it up first (saw someone do it that way before drilling.) Those screws are brutal! Got new Phillips ones in my kit from ECS. Thanks again.
You're awesome for this vid! I'm half way down but I'm trying to replace the rotors as well on the vw cc 11. The 2 screws holding the rotor together from behind what size star or hex is that? After I get those off I'll be finish.
for some reason my first comment didnt post, your welcome, are you talking about the screws that hold the rotor to the hub or the 2 bolts that hold the brake anchor on? the brake anchor being the bracket that the caliper bolts to
It's the one holding the anchor on. There's a top and bottom screw. I searched and searched and I'm thinking it's a 14 triple square ?? If so where in the world can I get it from? Lol
Shallah Dozier luckily when I worked on the one in the video all I had to do was change the pads and the rotor was fine but I do remember looking at the anchor bolts and if I remember correctly it looks like a 12 point bolt but with like 30 points lol, I would say either ask a dealer or go online and get one but then you would have to wait a day or two to get it, lisle may make one and if so you can get the part number for the socket then go to a chain store like oreilys and give them that part number and they should be able to get it the same day for you
Yea exactly the one . I thought it was a hex 12 at first but of course I was wrong but after searching some say it's a triple square bolt. I'll put it all back together and hit oreillys in the morning to see if they can order one. Again thanks for the video. You saved all of us a ton
Shallah Dozier no problem glad I could help, you may find the part number online then just give that number to orielys or which ever parts store because most likely they won't know what your looking for any ways, all depends on who's working there though, I will do some research and if I come up with a part number I will post it on here for ya
MR Happy thanks, no need to disconnect battery and the only reason you would have to suck brake fluid out of the reservoir would be to avoid the brake fluid spilling out of the reservoir when you collapse the piston, normally it's not a concern unless the brake fluid has been topped off with worn out brakes, even then the worst that can happen is the fluid will over flow the reservoir and make a mess, hope this helps
hi southern mechanic can i use this same techniques for 2015 subaru outback? pretty handy to replace pads this epb is pain is there tool to remove caliper bolt seems odd shape torx hex ? what kind of lube do you use to when placing motor back on caliper? should battery connection be disconnected before working on epb motor? these obd monitors expensive but make job easier is it worth it
Greg g no need to disconnect battery, yes be careful when reinstalling motor and be sure to grease the o ring seal when putting the motor back on so it doesn't bind up and break the plastic
Thank you S M. Wanting to try this on my wife's 2013 Audi Q5 Quattro but concerned. When I earlier tried to get my 30 yr+ mechanic to replace the rear brakes and rotors, he stated he did not have the "special tool" required after placing the rear brakes into "service mode." He stated after placing the rear brakes into the service mode, there was another Audi special tool needed to "hold back" something? Anyway, is the 2013 Audi Q5 Quattro a different set up then what you are describing here? Thank you for the help. I just found your TH-cam as I was searching for ways to DIY my wife's rear breaks Now a subscriber.
Thank you for subscribing!!! It should be the same on the audi's, I also think that some other people in this comment section have mentioned that they have done the same vehicle as yours and it is the same process as I have done in my video, hope this helps
Thank you so much for this video!! Just finished an Audi Q5. 1st time i have done rear pads on a vehicle with electric parking brake. Wouldn't have known what I was up against. I really appreciate you taking the time to make/share this video.
Awesome!!! Sounds like it went well for you, glad I could help, thanks for watching
Now it's old, 2003-07 E320 with SBC (sensotronic brake control) Mercedes , you had to use the factory X entry scantool to deactivate electronic brakes, front and rear, install new wear sensors, and reset with scantool ( and never open the car door or else calipers activates). It could be bypassed too, but I didn't think a EPB could. Learned a good lesson here. I was about to order the cheapest scantool for a EPB equipped vw jetta (Obdeleven) and came across this video, this southern mechanic is the man. It's not a full tutorial as was said, it's great though...you saved me big bucks. best regards southern mechanic!!
Thank you!!! Yes I agree especially when people top off the brake fluid as the brakes wear then when you push the caliper pistons back in then you have a mess at the master cylinder lol, thanks for watching 😊
Best video ever! My god, you saved me hundreds of dollars, Southern Mechanic. After opening the pistons of my wife's 2014 Audi Q5, using my scan tool, somehow the EPB got engaged again. I didn't realize this until I removed the left rear caliper, then could not screw the piston the rest of the way in using my Schwaben brake caliper tool set which I've used for years. It was then that I noticed the blinking EPB light in the cabin. And with the brake system taken apart, I could not disengage the EPB. And the piston was out too far to put the old pads back in. Your video was my last hope, and it worked perfectly. I've had all the children that I'm going to have, sir, but I think I will adopt a baby and name him Southern Mechanic in gratitude to you!
😊 I'm very glad I could help sir, and thank you for the kind comment, thanks for watching!!!!
@@SouthernMechanic I've made many DIY threads on Audizine where I've been a member for some ten years, but your video goes above and beyond because it helps people who are really stuck in a no-win situation. I just want to emphasize what a difference that you have made to my wrenching life today. If you're ever in Minnesota, let me know. I will take you out to dinner and drinks, my treat. :)
@@JohnnyDelta-24 thanks my friend 😊 if your ever in east Tennessee I will do the same!!!
I was about to buy a $600 VCDS tool before watching this. Can't believe this. Thanks man 🤜
You are very welcome, thanks for watching!!!!
I can't thank you enough for posting this. Saved me a ton of time.
@@gytrmkyr thank you!!! Glad I could help
Hey, you are a freakin genius! I drive an Audi and will try this on my car when time to replace the rear brakes. Appreciate your time for sharing the video. You just saved me at least $300 from buying the computer and taking to dealer.
Saved my day mate. Just a 20 min ago happened to my passat, ive heard about these faults but never thought that it would happen to me. 15 min job. Thank you a lot.
Thanks for the kind comment,glad I could help
God bless you dude, worked a treat. So glad there are helpful people out there. Who give their time for others. Stay blessed always.....
Any idea if I can bleed the abs brake system without a vag-com. 2011 audi a4 b8 3.0 tdi. Thanks in advance 😉
Ranj Singh thanks for the kind comment and you are welcome, im not sure on the brake bleeding part, I have heard that some people bleed the brake system the best they can then somehow trigger the abs system then bleed it again to get the rest of the air out but I have never personally tried it so I can't say for sure
Southern Mechanic
Top-man, Thank-you so very much for the information. May the good lord give you everything you deserve. Stay bright always...
I'm doing a A6 right now and got stuck on this part .THANKS for this vid. I been doing brakes for years but this is the first time I've seen this electronic crap
Jedi Knight your welcome, glad my video helped you out ☺ thanks for watching
Jedi Knight did you have any problems?
Im doing as
Have an Audi A8 and followed these instructions. Worked like a charm. Thank you and God bless.
Awesome to hear!!! Thanks for watching, glad I could help
Top video! The results are in and the judges have awarded you a “10”! You are the Man!
Thank you! On my Tiguan I was precisely at the step where you simply rotate the mechanism with the T in the electronic control... But I thought I had to take the whole servo apart... So I put everything back together, put the pads back in the box, and walked away. Then I found your video! Well, I'm glad I didn't take the e-brake mechanism apart but I'm even MORE glad I saw your video! Thank you, my man. I hated that electronic brake from the moment I saw it!
8 P. Glad to hear I could help, thanks for watching
I’m a nationally known bus driver out San Diego, and I must say, “YOU DA MAN’” Worked like a charm!!
Thanks for the kind comment, thanks for watching
Awesome, Thanks! I work at an import dealer and none of our scanners would open the brake calipers. $3000 computer available and I had to watch youtube to figure out this repair.
M D your welcome, glad I could help 😊
Hey, man. Just want to come back and say that this method worked like a charm on my '11 Audi A4 (B8). I can honestly say that I can get a little chicken shit when it comes to circumventing diagnostic tools, but this was a piece if cake. Some others have noted, and I'll repeat...use a slight smearing of synthetic grease on the O-ring for the parking brake motor housing...it will slip right back on. When I say a smear, I mean the smallest amount just to allow the two assemblies to slide back together. Parking brake worked just fine after the pads were replaced. Thanks, man!
You're welcome, glad I could help, yes it helps to apply some lube to any O-ring you're working with to make assembly easier
I didn't see this until after I finished my rear brakes, but can confirm this method worked for my 2010 VW Passat. Great video!
Thank you!!! And thanks for watching
You didn't need to use a9 or 12 volt battery with wires to depress the piston
@@johnkenny4017 no, I compressed it manually but that did create an issue with the system thinking the piston was in a different location. You need to be sure to physically return it to the same state. Lik many things there is more than one way to do something. Each can have pluses and minuses.
@@webberrify yeah these electronic parking brakes are totally insane no reason for him whatsoever just greed on the car manufacturers part thanks for response
@@johnkenny4017 I do prefer mechanical systems as the simplicity is my preference. I wonder if it is a result of not having a straight line to run cable based on unibody designs or other factors. Like drive by wire systems being used for years on throttle bodies. That appears to give engineers some flexibility, but trickles complexity down to techs and DIYers.
I have been a tech for over 50 years and here is a little trick to make this job a little easier. unplug the connector on the e-brake motor. make 2 jumper wires with 1/4 female spade connectors. hook onto terminals of motor. connect jumper wires to 12 volt power source and motor will run. If it applies the e-brake, just reverse the wires and the motor will back-off on the e-brake. then you can push the pistons in and install the pads. when you are done just pump-up the brakes and then cycle the e-brake switch on and release 3 times and it will automatically adjusts the e-brake.. Done---quick and easy. Joe
I have done also the same, it works perfectly
Honestly not mechanical minded don't suppose you know of guide for your way do you? Make my life a bit easier if not this guys one will do
No fault codes afterwards? Did it this way one time, car had a error code on brakes and had to send client to another shop to clear that code, because our guy was on vacation. From that time on we don't service brakes if our electrician is not on the spot.
@@strauts66 I seem to have error, did one side with this method and now parking brake won't engage,just flashes
Any idea what to do now?
Doing this job tomorrow, panicked at the thought of the EPB. Actually really simple, thanks.
You're welcome, hope this will help you
Thanks for the video its still making lives easier years later
You, Sir, are a savior. You are a gift to mankind. Thank you for making this video and being awesome
Thank you very much, glad I could help, thanks for watching
OMG THANK YOU FOR THIS!!! I was dreading changing the brake pads on my S6 since I read everywhere you needed the VAG-COM. I can finally get rid of the brake squeals without going to the dealer. Dealer wanted $249 just for labor not including parts for the rear only!
Prosthetic Hands wow that's crazy!!!!
your welcome, Glad I could help
VAG COM gives a commission to videos or people that state in their videos that you need to use their software in order to do the repair. It’s kinda shady but yeah
THANKYOU!!! I was seriously panicking when the hand brake got stuck on while changing the pads (first time trying!) and thsi video must have saved me a fortune in rip-off repairs. You're a legend!
BTW, this worked for a Renault Grand Scenic 3 perfectly.
Iwan Lewis that's what I like to hear ☺ glad I could help, thanks for watching
THANK YOU! Just changed brakes yesterday and your video saved us a lot of time and money. Super COOL thank you.
Your very welcome, glad I could make the job a little easier, thanks for watching
Thankyou, was worried about doing rear discs and pads without VAG. This method 100% works. 2016 plate Audi A3 Sline. If doing the discs as well as pads. Make sure you have a small M14 spline bit. Only 1 I had was about 1.5 inch long out of my set I couldn't get my socket on it, kept fouling on the surroundings. Had to run to Machinemart for a small stubby one. Other than that was perfect. Once brakes pads in, connect all up again, turn electric handbrake off and on till calibrated. Check it's solid and cannot spin while handbrake on, and off ya go. Great video
Most informative video yet. Thank you. I was born with a wrench in my hands moons ago. This helped me
Awesome!!! Glad I could help, me too, started when I was around 5 years old believe it or not lol, thanks for watching
Thank you. I own a 2009 VW CC 3.6L 4motion. I was able to do it without removing the caliper. Getting to the torx 30 screws was a pain in the rear, but it was worth it. I realized that the torx 40 screw to relieve the pressure doesn't have enough grip, so it is time to replace both calipers. For now, car is drivable and I will budget my calipers for the next 30 days instead of running a $500 emergency expense. Greetings from Minnesota!
You are very welcome, glad I could help, thanks for watching
Many thanks for this video instruction. I used it on my Audi A6 avant 2012. It is so easy when someone explains very clearly how to do it. Great job!! I saved a lot of money with only 1 hour work. Once again THNX
Wiebe Agter no problem at all, glad I could help, thanks for watching ☺
Dude thank you so much I have the Solus ultra snap-on binary scanner and couldn't f****** do the brakes electronically so glad I found your video
Your welcome, glad I could help, I have heard other people say they couldn't get the scanner to work either, thanks for watching!!!
Hey, dude. I'd buy ya a beer if I could. Just did the rear brakes on my CC. Went smooth as silk. From one fellow mechanic to another: thanks.
Thank you. I just followed your video and got the pads changed with no drama. You rock mate
TheOsitoOsito thanks for the kind comment, glad I could help
Good video. Glad there are ways around expensive dealer tools.
As It Is me too!!!! Thanks for watching
good info bro! i was a dealer tech at BMW 86 to 2013 they had this on new models. I had to scan the whole car then put the brakes into a service mode to change the pads.
Yeah it is crazy what you have to do anymore just to do what use to be a simple job, thanks for the kind comment and thanks for watching!!!!!
Thanks a bunch, just done them on my grand scenic 3. Couldn't get the piston in far enough for 2 new meaty pads so used one new and one old with meat left on it. Will revisit in the summer! Great video
Alexander Goldie your welcome, thanks for watching
craig bartley not really sure but if it has the 2 wire motor going to electric parking brake then it should work
yea exactly the same, mines a 2009.
i can vouch, not a single error message. just be sure to be on flat ground the 1st time you engage the handbrake the first time after doing it to reset everything and ur good to go
Thanks! I'm changing the pads and discs on my Passat tonight and this definately helped!
Glad I could help!!! The thanks for watching
Surprised no one mentioned disconnecting the connector on the motor and applying 12V to the pins while the caliper is still installed. It will either retract and release the parking brake or expand out locking the parking brake. If it retracts, you're good to go to the next step. If it locks, reverse the polarity of the 12V and it will retract. Takes less than 2 min.
Once retracted, you can remove the caliper and replace pads & rotors as usual. When you're done with pad/rotor replacement, start the car and manually apply and release the parking brake a few times so it sets in correctly.
No need to remove the motor from the caliper.
I was sweating bullets when I saw computers and VAG tools on other tutorials. Im the family mechanic; those AUDIs I tell ya. Thanks for this!
lol it does get a little scary when they start talking about all the dealer tools, glad my video could help ya, thanks for watching
Saved me a trip to the dealership, thanks so much! Went and bought the 2 torx bits (T30 & T40) & I was good to go!
Kyle Anderson awesome to hear!!! glad I could help
At last!!! A great tip from a no-nonsense professional.
Gerhard Petersen thanks for the kind comment
thanks. this video saved my bacon last night. working on a 2016 Mazda CX5 and the piston would not go down no matter what even though it was in maintenance mode. Mazda (luckily for me) uses allen screws instead of torx. I didn't have any big torx available. I was able to get the brakes back on after i did this. otherwise my car would have still been up on a jack today.
Glad to hear I could help, thanks for watching
i bought the pads thinking " ive done vw/audis how hard can it be" never thought about silly electric handbrake till now. Great video taking mechanics back to mechanical rather than £3 grand diagnosic machine rip off nonsense.
I'm glad I could help, thanks for watching
I did the job last week following this procedure and had no problems whatsoever, I didnt stick the battery on charge as vw say you should. This is a great video.......
@@jaapseiye2246 thanks for the kind comment 😊 thanks for watching
your video is the answer, thank you very much.
new cars now a days ussually using parking e-brakes which disc brakes are easier to work on but they seems ebrakes makes it complicated. i worked 1 on a friends car but i did not continue replacing the rotors and pads i just lubricate the slider pins and all stack up and no way to push back the piston. poor friend of mine uses and runs his car with stack up brake pads. God bless and more power.
I am very glad I could help, thanks for watching 😊
Southern Mechanic, hats off to you and many thanks for this video. This worked perfectly and I did not have to do anything with the electronic EPB controller as some of the You Tube video's have cautioned about re-calibration. It's a DC gear motor with torque settings I am not sure what they think would have to be re-calibrated.
Robert Smith exactly!!!! it knows when to shut off when the motor stops when it pushes against the pad because the current draw rises and the computer senses this and shuts off power to the motor after it loads up against the brake pad, thanks for watching
This shortcut saved me tonight. Thank you!! FWIW it works on Range Rover Sport models with the electric parking brake.
You're welcome, glad I could help, thanks for watching
YOU DA MAN!!!! holy crap, thought I was losing my mind when I couldn't compress the piston. This is my first German car ... might be my last :) Thankfully I saw your vid. Worked perfect. Did have to fight one of the Torx screws, but car is 8 years old. BTW, I found a 6mm hex bit worked on the motor screw just fine on my '09 A4 Quattro.
gkwillmott haha glad I could help, I haven't had the screws stick yet but like you say after 8 years I'd say they will get a little seized, thanks for watching
gkwillmott same man was trying to get it to collapse for hours though I'd have to buy a new caliper
Nice one, going to give this a try, towing fees £40 then garage costs, its got to be worth a try, thanks for sharing, !!
STEVEHOLE1 your welcome, it should work just fine for you ☺ thanks for watching
Make sure to lube the o-ring before reassembling the motor to the caliper. I didn't and in my attempt to reseat the seal, I snapped the plastic flange/wing off the motor housing that the bolts pass through. Not a huge deal but I could have avoided replacing another part by paying attention to the details. Other than that, this process worked perfectly! Thanks for posting Southern M.
jbezhc for sure, I always use Vaseline (petroleum jelly) on orings, thanks for watching
"Vaseline or other petroleum products should never be used on rubber or neoprene objects. It can deteriorate the rubber or neoprene very rapidly.
The correct lube to use is a silicone based lubricant, which comes with or without Teflon. This is available in spa or pool stores. You can also use the silicone spray for MagLights and other applications, especially if the weather is cold."
Not sure what these o-rings are made from but maybe a different lubricant would be better? Maybe that stuff you use on headlights that comes in a little packet? I think that's made from silicon but not sure.
It all depend on what kind of material the seal is made of...
Normaly in an application like this it´s Nitrile (NBR) and that stand petrolium based grease just fine. It might even be Viton...
I used this method on a 2014 Jaguar F Type....worked exactly the same as yours did.....thanks for posting it. I have two scanners that are suppose to work on the Jag to retract the EPB, but neither one worked...Both from Autel....EBS301 / MK 808
MRM thanks for the kind comment, there was another person who left a similar comment as yours saying that he had a very expensive computer and it wouldn't retract the epb either and he used my method, thanks for watching
You are SO the MAN! About to give it a try on '07 Audi A8. Another vid showed doing it with the VagCom, recommended just for seeing the other bits on an A8. But you are going to save me SOOOO much money, and I'm getting really nice slotted & drilled rotors at the same time.
Eric Lyons glad I could help save ya some cash ☺ thanks for watching
Saved my pockets and life 🙏🏽 you’re the Goat chief
So glad I could help!!! Thanks for watching
Thank you! You saved me tons of money. Just replaced rear brakes on my CC, and your video was very helpful.
Glad I could help, thanks for watching
Well done your a Gem ,did this job on my VW 2 yrs ago and needed a reminder! Many Thanks
Awesome to hear that I helped!!! Thanks for watching!!!
You save me dude !! I was ready to give up with the brakes. Big thanks !!
makakas99 glad to help 😁 thanks for watching
How many of you owned a 20 to 25 year old car with ABS?
If you have then you would know they light up and fixing them properly is very expensive. They can also cause the car to fail road worthy.
Now that is just 1 electronic component, how about adding more electronics to the mix like lane keeping assist, brake assist etc?
These cars will be in the Junk Yard earlier than the cars of the 90's and 00's (12-15 years tops, half the time it took the previous generation to be scrapped).
I agree!!!!
Will this work on a 2018 Buick Enclave? Problem I’m having is the caliper won’t slide off the pads since the plastic EPB housing is large and hits the bracket on the way out which is frustrating. Can’t find any information online on the procedure besides your video. I’m only trying to grease brake pad contacts since they squeal but will want to change my own rotors/pads in the future like I’ve always done. Thanks for the video!
I'm not sure because I havent had to change the brakes on one of those yet but I would think it would be the same
Thank you very much for this tutorial. It came at a perfect time. I was just about to undertake this very task.
Your very welcome, glad I could help!!!
Does doing this bring up any brake fault codes? I need to change the rear pads on a 2014 v6 tdi toureg
I have never had a code come up after doing this so you should be fine
I have never a code come up after doing this so you should be ok
Loved the video. I wonder if it would work on a 2018 Mitsubishi Outlander? It looks like the same setup.
Sorry about the late reply, youtube changed their notification system and they don't show up like they use to, it should work of it is set up the same way, this method will work on most EPB systems, thanks for watching!!!
It worked!!! It was SO easy. I can't believe I tried all sorts of other crazy things when your method was very simple and logical. Thank you!
@@preachermand5380 glad I could help!! Thanks for watching!!!
Took hours of trying to push that damn piston flush now I know why😂😂 helpful video thank you!!!!
Brett Ross lol, you're welcome, thanks for watching
Nice ! What was the model of your car ? I have a 2015 a3 sline . Wanna know if it show you some ight in the dash because you retract the actuator mechanicly and not with a scanner?
It was a customer car, Volkswagen tt if I remember correctly, nope no lights
Any idea if this will work on a newer style Honda? I have a 2017 CRV that supposedly has electric brakes but I haven't opened it up yet.
It should but I havent done a honda with EPB yet so idk for sure
thanks!! this was awesome just got back from a test drive perfect and parking brake still works almost to easy to do
Awesome to hear, thanks for watching
Thanks so much for this video, saved my ass big time. You are the man! Greetings from Sweden🇸🇪
You are very welcome, glad I could help, thank you for watching
Give you a tip breake loose those small torx bolts on the elec brake housing while caliper was still on easier nice set up though
Awesome video - thanks heaps, done plenty of VW brakes, none with EPC :-) - about to do my B6 - R36.
Joseph - love your 12v elec tip, but this vid is the best option if you arent that elec savvy and maybe worried about burning out the servo motor - NOTE - for those of you using the 12V method - make sure it's a 12V - DC powersupply :-) obvious to some i know.
Very Very handy to know that pistons dont have that silly locking mechanism, that needs winding back - PHEW!!
Do you retighten the torx piece inside the motor or leave it undone all the way
Leave it undone, the electric gearbox will tighten it back down after it's all reassembled when you apply the parking brake button
@@SouthernMechanic thank you sir
@@mattl.5998 your welcome, thanks for watching
Dude! Awesome sauce! Had to replace the actuator. This vid was a life saver! Thanks!
Your very welcome!!! Glad I could help, thanks for watching
Thanks for a great video! Just replaced my pads and it works, BUT I get error on my handbrake now. I can feel how the left side locks the wheels, while the right side doesen't.
Just one question, when I turned the torx clockwise to return the piston. On the right side, I turned it all the way back, but not on the left. I just pushed it back enought to fit back. I guess that's why they're not brake eaven.
What shall I do? Turn both pistons all the way back and re-do all the job? Please help me out buddy. Thanks!
Aleks K I have never had that happen but I would try to turn them in the release position as far as they will go until they stop then reinstal the gear box onto the caliper and try it again, also make sure the gear box goes back on in the correct potision without binding up and also make sure a wire or connector didn't come loose while you were working on it, you may have pinched/cut a wire or pulled a connector loose without realising it
I actually did disconnect the connectors while working with the brakes :( So what will that cause?
I will try to reinstall everything so that both pistons are all the way back (to have same base position) and then turn the brakes on.
I have to appologise for my comment. I was a real fool. As I wrote, I disconnected while I was working with the brakes. I'm embaressed to tell that I forgot to connect on one side :/ But I still did the both sides with max return of the piston and now everything works fine.
Once agan, sorry for bothering, but most of all, thanks once again for sharing this video! Cheers!
Aleks K no problem, it's the simple stuff that throws us for a loop most often, glad you figured it out, thanks for watching ☺
Can I use a small clip of your video didn't record how to do this process for my diy for a acura? I will put ur link up too thanks
Sure, no problem
I had a question,on a few land rover videos, people disconnected the cable while the car is running and the parking brake released then turning the car off versus doing it like you do,whats the difference? could it be thats how it works better on those cars versus a VW for example or these parking brake motors are about the same on every new car? i figured if the car's parking brake is on when you remove the motor like you do isn't it under tension? me like a million other people have been doing brake jobs for years and are not really up to par with this electronic brake situation, thank you for your input.
That is a good question, I have never tried it like that but that should work just fine, no there is no tension or very little when you unbolt it
@@SouthernMechanic thank you for the quick reply.
@@dntlss you are very welcome, thanks for watching
Awesome information. Made the job easy for the home mechanic. Thanks for the vid.
Les Taylor your very welcome, thanks for watching
Perfect thanks to let us know how to release the electric piston breaks I have Acura TLX 2015, the dealership want replace the rear pads breaks just for labor $250!!! thank you
You are very welcome, thanks for watching
Does a 2006 Passat 4cyl 2.0T (B6) Have this e brake I have to worry about or just later models?
Thanks a lot brother will it work for honda vezel hybrid z
You're welcome, I have never done one of those but if it has an electronic parking brake then it should
Thanks dude,I was stuck and you save the day
Awesome!!!! Glad I could help, thanks for watching
thanks for this vid i had a Audi A6 Quattro 3.2L no more dealer for me i been searching around for a video like this for awhile..)))
mark19g your welcome, feels good to get away from those dealer fees for once doesn't it?
Once you unwind the motor back and push piston back, then replace the pads and disc, do you just function the electric handbrake and it will set itself?
Yes, just push the button like you normally would and it will take care of it
@@SouthernMechanic thanks very much, makes my life a lot easier now!!
@@leaskyd3101 awesome!!! Thanks for watching
Can i just use my caliper wind back tool to wind the piston back in place instead of taking of the electronic parking brake motor?
Thanks for the video.
Sorry for the late reply but TH-cam for some reason just now notified me of your message but no you will have to take the motor assembly off and wind it that way because the thread system is in the opposite side with this setup, thanks for watching
@@SouthernMechanic no problem. I finally got the anchor plate bolts loose on one side without breaking them and then went to take off the motor and the torx head stripped on both bolts. So now i just got a scanner in today for the wife's car.
Worked fine for my megane coupe 2012! 15 min job! Ty
Andrea Cattel glad to hear, thanks for watching
Would this work on a 2011 Front Wheel Drive Tiguan? It's my understanding that the rear caliper pistons have to be screwed in.
Anthony Bombaci there are a few different types of parking brake for passenger cars, usually either they will have drum brakes, electric park brakes like shown here or calipers with a piston that you have to screw in while compressing that will have a manually activated park brake via cable hooked into a lever on the back side of the caliper but I don't ever recall seeing a caliper that had a electric park brake and a screw in piston but I could be wrong but I would say that if you have an electric button you push to engage your park brake then it should be the system that is shown in my video but if you have a lever to pull to engage your park brake then you will have a caliper with a screw in piston, hope this helps
Southern Mechanic thank you for the speedy reply. The Tiguan that I speak of has an an electronic parking brake & what appears to be a 3 pronged screw in rear caliper piston. I'm going to revisit the caliper on Sunday - so I will send you an update on the results. Great job on this video, by the way... Very informative & a big money saver.
when you reassemble everything should you turn the motor counter clockwise or leave it as is?
Danny Cabrera you don't have to do anything to the motor itself
awesome thank you so much!
Danny Cabrera your welcome, thanks for watching
Makes sense that it would automatically calibrate for new pads, and as they ware down.
Will doing this do anything with the parking brake calibration and future operation?
Michael S there's no calibration on the park brake, you will be fine
Is it the same on 2015 subaru outback? Thank for answer
Mathieu Lavallee as long as it's the 2 wire electric park brake motor
(which it should be) then it should be the same but I haven't done this job on that particular vehicle so I'm not 100% sure, thanks for watching
Thank, i ll try it as soon i receive my rockauto part
thank you very much! is a lot easier than it looks before you actually do the job!
Thanks for the kind comment, I'm glad I could help
thank you again for your response! you've just got another sub. I look forward to learning more from you!
Can I apply this procedure to my 2012 Audi Q5 awd? Ty
Yes, I am about 99% sure you can, thanks for watching
will this work on a vauxhall insignia vxr ? thanks great vid
alan maclean thank you, I have never worked on one of those cars but it "should" work on most cars with electronic park brakes
you a audi and volkswagen man thanks all give it a go aye have the evo mr fq 400 running 600 bhp :) its a good wee trick
I’ve also seen you can hook a battery charger to the power leads of the motor and it will move in or out depending on polarity
Just another legend on youtube 👍
hey whats the name of that tool you used to compress with?
That was just a generic caliper compressor tool, I now use a really nice one made by lisle but any caliper compressor will work, even a big C clamp
@@SouthernMechanic ok cool! thanks man!
will this work on a vauxhall insignia 2016. i should think it would would work on any car with electric park brake motor. great video southern mechanic a true money saver
Alan Dean yes as long as it is electric park brake it should work as long as it's the 2 wire system, all of the electric park brakes I have done like this have been the same, thanks for watching
Worked like a charm!!! Thanks man, much appreciated! Unfortunately my torx rotor screw stripped. Ah well.
vleipnik oh crap that sucks, I have a few tricks to get those out, thanks for watching, glad I could help
3/4 actually stripped, but i managed to get 2 out using a chisel and rotating, and the last i just left in there. going to drill through next time but i didn't have a torch to heat it up first (saw someone do it that way before drilling.) Those screws are brutal! Got new Phillips ones in my kit from ECS. Thanks again.
Very helpful. I wish I'd seen this sooner. Not your normal brake job.
Thanks for watching
You're awesome for this vid! I'm half way down but I'm trying to replace the rotors as well on the vw cc 11. The 2 screws holding the rotor together from behind what size star or hex is that? After I get those off I'll be finish.
for some reason my first comment didnt post, your welcome, are you talking about the screws that hold the rotor to the hub or the 2 bolts that hold the brake anchor on? the brake anchor being the bracket that the caliper bolts to
It's the one holding the anchor on. There's a top and bottom screw. I searched and searched and I'm thinking it's a 14 triple square ?? If so where in the world can I get it from? Lol
Shallah Dozier luckily when I worked on the one in the video all I had to do was change the pads and the rotor was fine but I do remember looking at the anchor bolts and if I remember correctly it looks like a 12 point bolt but with like 30 points lol, I would say either ask a dealer or go online and get one but then you would have to wait a day or two to get it, lisle may make one and if so you can get the part number for the socket then go to a chain store like oreilys and give them that part number and they should be able to get it the same day for you
Yea exactly the one . I thought it was a hex 12 at first but of course I was wrong but after searching some say it's a triple square bolt. I'll put it all back together and hit oreillys in the morning to see if they can order one. Again thanks for the video. You saved all of us a ton
Shallah Dozier no problem glad I could help, you may find the part number online then just give that number to orielys or which ever parts store because most likely they won't know what your looking for any ways, all depends on who's working there though, I will do some research and if I come up with a part number I will post it on here for ya
Thank you for taking the time to show this. My turn
You're very welcome, glad I could help, thanks for watching 😊
Best trick thanks a lot saved me $200.00 pretty slick setup though german engineer 🖒
Rob Schoufour your welcome, glad I could help, thanks for watching
Wil this work on a 2014 Audi Q5?.......I hope so!
Robr88 R it should as far as I know
Hi
great movie. Do I need to disconnect the battery?
and if I have to drop (suck) brake fluid.
MR Happy thanks, no need to disconnect battery and the only reason you would have to suck brake fluid out of the reservoir would be to avoid the brake fluid spilling out of the reservoir when you collapse the piston, normally it's not a concern unless the brake fluid has been topped off with worn out brakes, even then the worst that can happen is the fluid will over flow the reservoir and make a mess, hope this helps
Thank you very much for your reply.
I have a VW Passat B6 2006 year. It should be the same as showed on the right? Many thanks
MR Happy your welcome, it should be as far as I know
Thank you very much...made the job as easy as pie on my 2014 audi a4.
hi southern mechanic
can i use this same techniques for 2015 subaru outback? pretty handy to replace pads this epb is pain is there tool to remove caliper bolt seems odd shape torx hex ? what kind of lube do you use to when placing motor back on caliper? should battery connection be disconnected before working on epb motor? these obd monitors expensive but make job easier is it worth it
Greg g no need to disconnect battery, yes be careful when reinstalling motor and be sure to grease the o ring seal when putting the motor back on so it doesn't bind up and break the plastic
This was the most helpful video on this subject thank you.
Kassaundra Winters your welcome young lady, glad I could help
Thank you S M. Wanting to try this on my wife's 2013 Audi Q5 Quattro but concerned. When I earlier tried to get my 30 yr+ mechanic to replace the rear brakes and rotors, he stated he did not have the "special tool" required after placing the rear brakes into "service mode." He stated after placing the rear brakes into the service mode, there was another Audi special tool needed to "hold back" something? Anyway, is the 2013 Audi Q5 Quattro a different set up then what you are describing here? Thank you for the help. I just found your TH-cam as I was searching for ways to DIY my wife's rear breaks Now a subscriber.
Thank you for subscribing!!! It should be the same on the audi's, I also think that some other people in this comment section have mentioned that they have done the same vehicle as yours and it is the same process as I have done in my video, hope this helps
Awesome trick ,thanks so much for the tip,worked great on the rear brakes of an Audi A4 estate..Happy Days..
Stephen Chaplin thanks for watching, glad I could help