How Electric Parking Brakes Work

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  • @tripjet999
    @tripjet999 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Great explanation. I would now like a mechanical handbrake in my vehicle, please!

  • @rickh2749
    @rickh2749 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Is there any possible way they could take a simple system and made it more complicated. Been in the parts business a very long time and some of the things I see engineers do just blow my mind. They have completely forgotten about K.I.S.S

  • @gasparitorumba1099
    @gasparitorumba1099 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    You the Man!! Dan!!! After hrs of looking for the breakdown of the caliper I finally found your video.. not even the Haynes manual has this info..the guys at Autozone had no clue.. thank you so much!!!!!!Soo happy you made my day!!

  • @motivpp
    @motivpp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I believe you're literally the only person on TH-cam explaining this in such detail! My exact problem is the stupid small seal because it's filling the motor with fluid. Both my motors are shattered inside around the 12 torx gear that spins the caliper side and I just replaced them with TRW motors exactly one year ago. I am not sure if the fluid is causing the shattering but I can't find a rebuild kit that includes that seal. I do have the auto-hold function ON every time the car stops because I love the function. 2009 VW CC vr6 4motion

    • @flemmingqvist8326
      @flemmingqvist8326 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Pls Notice: Auto Hold is performed by the cars 4 hydraulic actuated brakes. It has NOTHING to do with the Electric Hand Brake. But nobody knows that !! Untill yesterday I did not know that too.

  • @spelunkerd
    @spelunkerd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Excellent break down, thank you. I'm going to review your channel to see if you did the same kind of dissection of the parking brake in older disc brakes. The mechanism is surprisingly complex.

  • @michaelpinkston4628
    @michaelpinkston4628 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I have to question Plantary gear sets automatically reverse.
    I would think they would just reverse polarity

    • @badrallach4792
      @badrallach4792 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I agree, surely if it reversed when the piston encountered resistance ( pad hitting the disc/rotor ) the actuator would run back, releasing the parking brake. In fact it would never stop running. What tells it to stop? I imagine it's more like an electric window motor that stops when its closed/opened the window because it measures the drop in current draw. I've seen guys connecting 12v to the terminals of the motor to wind it back and they have to make sure it's the correct polarity otherwise the piston is pushed out. Still a great video to see inside one of these epb calipers.

    • @brucehislop8860
      @brucehislop8860 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I agree with you Michael. I have some experience with these and indeed they do reverse the polarity to retract the piston. A current sensor in the brake control module is used to determine that the brake is set. Once the motor current hits a preset level, the brake is ON and power is cut to the motor. To release, the module applies reverse polarity current to the motor, the piston retracts and the brakes are released.
      If it was some type of automatic reverse of the planetary gears, I can see the calipers would easily get out of sync with each other (one caliper is ON and the other caliper is OFF)

  • @sergejandrejev6070
    @sergejandrejev6070 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great explanation, I did not find it somewhere else!

  • @jacklantern6339
    @jacklantern6339 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the information.
    As a retired mechanic, I was wondering how it worked.

  • @badonmar
    @badonmar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thank you so much for your explanation. Now I understand how e-parking system work. I think manual brake system is more durable.

  • @markw3922
    @markw3922 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    great video however the motor polarity is switched to back off caliper the neat little gear set is only for torque multiplication here.

  • @TurboDodgeXVI
    @TurboDodgeXVI 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for the info dude. Was wondering how an ebrake worked without brake fluid

  • @battlehrfred
    @battlehrfred 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Now, this is as "Professional as it gets!!! 100-100 perfect!! ty sir

  • @vinhha6073
    @vinhha6073 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    yupt he the one.. the only one taking a part and explains how electric e brake work.. Respect Sir..🫡

  • @1122ss
    @1122ss 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Outstanding explanation!!

  • @cory9198
    @cory9198 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the breakdown.... Would you be able to demo the gear assembly and show how its able to reverse direction?.. Thank you

  • @stco2426
    @stco2426 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very many thanks for making and sharing this. I was after a video that showed the principles and operation and this hits the spot. Looking to sort a sticky rear brake on a VW and think the EPB mechanism isn't fully releasing properly. After a brake service the pads operate normally, but as soon as I activate then release the EPB, the LH one doesn't retract properly. While I don't want to have to replace the calliper I see little alternative. This is a great video and I'm glad I found your work.

  • @Bachelor84
    @Bachelor84 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent demonstration...

  • @lloydxt
    @lloydxt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    very well explained! thanks....you've saved me money! I will avoid buying a car with those brakes!

  • @jw7570
    @jw7570 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You’re a pro!!!! Thank you

  • @automobileservicesadts1122
    @automobileservicesadts1122 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Good contents with demo

  • @jasbirgill6142
    @jasbirgill6142 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent explanation. Thank you so much.

  • @MrDumbovic
    @MrDumbovic ปีที่แล้ว

    Great explanation. Thank you..
    do you know if the electric brake on 2009 Citroen c 5 can be made to not engage automatically every time you shut off the engine.

  • @bernadettevickery7397
    @bernadettevickery7397 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good explanation

  • @ricpmateo
    @ricpmateo ปีที่แล้ว

    excellent presentation, thanks a lot, so if you don't release first the electronic park brake caliper and go straight the depressing piston you will ruin the seals. I saw in some video, you can release pressure from electronic park brake by using 12 volts battery applied to caliper side of the electrical terminal after first removing the electrical connection from electrical harness and then proceed as usual mechanical way of doing brake pads replacement.

  • @adjilZ
    @adjilZ 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks! I can’t find a replacement for that drive and plunger anywhere.

  • @mwwhatever
    @mwwhatever 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very good explanation. I'm assuming this is the same way that automatic emergency braking systems are able to apply the brakes

  • @jamaleldinkhaled9649
    @jamaleldinkhaled9649 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The best Video I ever have this week 😍😍

  • @livewoutlimit
    @livewoutlimit ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video. I was looking for an answer to see if the actual piston needs to be spun back in to the caliper while compressing. Almost every how-to video I've seen on a MK7 Golf does it this way. Based on this video, there's nothing that spins the actual piston, meaning it just needs to be pressed back in like any other models. Someone chime in?

  • @markkenny5799
    @markkenny5799 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was some great information, Thank you!

  • @jackschissler255
    @jackschissler255 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    That’s nice. Car companies are always finding a way to screw us in repairs. This stuff isn’t necessary. The basic hand brake and cable system worked wonders. Very cheap to repair.
    This system is just as stupid as the auto shut off they now have in vehicles that shut off when stopped.

    • @izalman
      @izalman ปีที่แล้ว

      Electric parking brakes are for weaklings and folk with very poor hand / foot coordination.

  • @tinof5829
    @tinof5829 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Interesting! Thank you.

  • @zoltanbatiz
    @zoltanbatiz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks to this video, I may re-think buying a car with an electronic parking brake. At least until there’s no more choice for the “old school” type. With all those parts, I can only imagine the repair costs involved JUST for that component.

    • @the_expidition427
      @the_expidition427 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Vehicles are being engineered more toward engineer type people and making dealers money planned obsolescence, lack of repairability by the normal user. Manufacturers are looking to phase out the backyard mechanics so normal people bring it in to a dealer. For those in technical fields IT and Engineering this is no issue.

  • @rpap5322
    @rpap5322 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Here is a question for ya.... i have seen folks use a 9 volt battery connected to the motor to retract it....... my question is how much DC current will the EPB motor be able to take.. like 12 to 15 volt DC ? is there a maximum amount of voltage the EPB motor is rated for ????

    • @elky82
      @elky82 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      current and voltage are different, they can take 18-20 volts for short periods of time though

  • @nombreapellido9038
    @nombreapellido9038 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice explanation sir! Thank you!

  • @taymus13
    @taymus13 ปีที่แล้ว

    So from this and acouple other videos Ive seen, it looks like the mean point of this setup is to keep the main aspect of parking brakes, but in causes of emergency braking it doesnt skid and is ment to make stopping abit safer then face planting into your dash. This assesment checkout for those who know more then me?

  • @fatpandaproductions9833
    @fatpandaproductions9833 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    so question the park brake extends like normal but when i disengage park brake piston doesn't retract and is chewing through pads as still making contact with rotor . any ideas?

  • @belal29customs
    @belal29customs 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good job sir

  • @markrainford1219
    @markrainford1219 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How does a planetary gear set automatically reverse?

    • @carsten4594
      @carsten4594 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It doesn't, control module reverses motor.

    • @OldSchoolNoe
      @OldSchoolNoe ปีที่แล้ว

      I believe the planetary pinions are held, the sun is the input and the ring is the output

  • @clivezeederberg2782
    @clivezeederberg2782 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks

  • @RingZero
    @RingZero 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The planetary gear system does not reverse itself unless I misunderstood.

  • @stuffoflardohfortheloveof
    @stuffoflardohfortheloveof 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Brill vid. Thanks for posting 👍🙂🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

  • @vwaudiwelder
    @vwaudiwelder 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can someone please tell me which wires should be power or ground to retrofit these calipers to another car? Which of the smaller wires are signal/trigger wires to activate the electromagnetic solenoid and clamp the rotor? Thank you

  • @jaisonxaviour4769
    @jaisonxaviour4769 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Clear Explanations . Thank You

  • @hustlegrowers3134
    @hustlegrowers3134 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My question is can you repair the caliper piston for a vehicle with a caliper like this

  • @hugomartinez8114
    @hugomartinez8114 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not an expert but he made it clear to understand.

  • @jafarmahbubnejad8013
    @jafarmahbubnejad8013 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello, please help. I want to park on the slope of the 2014 Santa Fe car so that there is no pressure on the gearbox, and when turning on and moving the gear lever with pressure from the outside, I should not thank you.
    Now, when I stand on the slope, I go to pb, I activate the electric brake, and when I turn on the handle, it comes on by force.
    I also tried, I waited, I went, then I activated the electric brake, then I turned off the car, only the engine turned off, but the lights behind the amp were on.

  • @BillyRillkratz
    @BillyRillkratz 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great, thanks a lot!

  • @carlosmontoya1706
    @carlosmontoya1706 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great explanation Dann. Thank you

  • @mahgol6206
    @mahgol6206 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello, please help me. I want to park on the slope of the 2014 Santa Fe car so that there is no pressure on the gearbox and it does not come out of the p when turning on and moving the gear lever with pressure. Thank you. Now when I stand on the slope, I go to p, then I activate the electric brake, when I turn on the gear lever, it comes on by force. I also tried, I stopped, I went, then I activated the electric brake, then I turned off the car, only the engine turned off, but the lights behind the amp were on.

  • @siahmonkey10
    @siahmonkey10 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Anyone know what that spindles thread pitch is?

  • @25447carepear
    @25447carepear 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a toyota camry le 2012 and EVERYTHING on my car in up to date and in order except, lately when I reverse and put on the brakes, it makes a moaning noise. I've gone to three different toyota dealerships and no one can hear it make the noise when I need to duplicate it. It only happens when I back out and ready to go everyday. If I'm parked anywhere, anytime of day. It makes me nervous because theyve all checked my brakes and have three diagnostic tests. Can you help or give any advice or ideas to what it could be? Thanks

    • @rpap5322
      @rpap5322 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nothing to worry about mine does the same thing even different model cars.....it is just that the brakes are cold from sitting over night and you are slowly moving backwards..... and the brake pads will make a groaning noise.....once the pads warm up you can back up all day long and they will not groan......

  • @helpontheway
    @helpontheway ปีที่แล้ว

    You’re a god

  • @mariapagan6346
    @mariapagan6346 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I need to find the part that goes inside the piston. What is it called?

    • @mariapagan6346
      @mariapagan6346 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The one that goes in the hole in the back as you stated.

  • @chrisleon27
    @chrisleon27 ปีที่แล้ว

    Marvelous

  • @harishsubramanyam3393
    @harishsubramanyam3393 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent Sir! Thank you :)

  • @dw6503
    @dw6503 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good video, but the words(and the dark bakground) are blocking what you're showing!!!
    I just repaired parking brakes on a vw passat recently and you can actually drive the motor forward or backwards just by changing the polarities of the current from a small 12v dc battery. Just make sure you have a fuse in the circuit to protect the motors from damage. Check the fuse box inside your car to see how much amperage the fuse must have. Mine was 5 amps fuse.

    • @vwaudiwelder
      @vwaudiwelder 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Awesome. Can you please tell me which wires should be power or ground to retrofit these calipers to another car? Which of the smaller wires are signal/trigger wires to activate the electromagnetic solenoid and clamp the rotor? Thank you

  • @viplegaleducation1292
    @viplegaleducation1292 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why not do a caliper rebuild video?

  • @hammadmadi4285
    @hammadmadi4285 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sir i m your Student from pakistan ....... Sir i hav question what cause lining on Brake Rotor

  • @patrickbaitman8336
    @patrickbaitman8336 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hence cable operated e brake.

  • @Ltholst7
    @Ltholst7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is exactly why I only drive old schools.

  • @derekwilliams4877
    @derekwilliams4877 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    what is wrong with a hand brake lever & cable.

    • @BigEightiesNewWave
      @BigEightiesNewWave 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nothing. This electric thing is a POS.

    • @videosenutube
      @videosenutube 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      They were not making any money because of it's good design and functionality.....it never needed maintenance and every body wants a piece of the pie.TPS more garbage we don't need

  • @ستيشن
    @ستيشن 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks alot dear

  • @otahu26
    @otahu26 ปีที่แล้ว

    That is a Pain living here in a RUST Prone Area. Adding more cost over time. What happens when you Loose Power? Or Need that Emergency Brake.

  • @jimosullivan1389
    @jimosullivan1389 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Subbed, liked and just what I needed to know, as i am a nosy bastard (Engineer) ..lol

  • @powerfullord5029
    @powerfullord5029 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks, know i know how it works and why modern cars require just push rear break piston back instead of turning ...

  • @vikingsoul8719
    @vikingsoul8719 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    first off that is not how a planetary gear set works it does not self retract if it did it would just keep going in and out. the module reverses polarity on the dc motor that runs it. the torrington bearing or thrust bearing gets lubricated by the brake fluid its submerged in thats why it has no grease.you shouldnt be explaining things you dont know anything about to people these are a very simple and reliable parking brake system way less failure and expense to cable type ebrakes.

  • @rockyesterline7942
    @rockyesterline7942 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The guy who invented this electronic emergency brake system should be in prison how many times is this going to go bad and money is going to cost to fix it my 2021 Chevy Silverado has it someday that emergency brake will be stuck on and I will be stranded isn't there any way you can take a fuse out

  • @Quoctienz5678
    @Quoctienz5678 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    👍👍👍👍👍👍

  • @peugeotpartnerssss7707
    @peugeotpartnerssss7707 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Peugeot partners Kano Nigeria

  • @europana7
    @europana7 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I prefer a $20 cable instead hand brake instead ...

  • @condor5635
    @condor5635 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    EPB - dumbest technology. Old manual brake worked fine. Simple and never failed. Yeh replace with motorized ones that engage every time and add hundreds of dollars to a car price. Engineers looking to implement unnecessary technology. A solution looking for a problem. Dumb. Great video however. Thanks for the detailed explanation

    • @zchen1994
      @zchen1994 ปีที่แล้ว

      So does manual car windows

    • @condor5635
      @condor5635 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zchen1994 - not quite the same comparison. Most people - vast majority - don’t use emergency brake - most everyone uses power windows. Plus you typically don’t use your power windows every day. Imagine your power windows going down when you start the car and going up when you turn off the car. Every day in and out. I don’t use my parking brake. I don’t want it to automatically turn on and off every time I park the car. That’s just additional wear and tear on some thing and I have no desire to replace or to get repaired for some exorbitant amount.

  • @peugeotpartnerssss7707
    @peugeotpartnerssss7707 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Peugeot

  • @ericpham7773
    @ericpham7773 ปีที่แล้ว

    I thought parking brake should be manual no electricity or motor

  • @Pwilli-hs6yi
    @Pwilli-hs6yi 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why, oh why, did ANYONE think replacing a faultless device such as a Hand operated safety device, with a Terminator operated electric device, was a good idea?!?!?
    It's because electric handbrakes cost more money and no-one can fix them.
    So you have to go back to the manufacturer and pay millions of pounds/dollars to fix "their inbuilt" fault.
    Easy money car makers.
    SHAME ON YOU.
    There should be a movement against " profiteering by design to a captive market".
    We all NEED vehicles for work.
    That is how humans have evolved and expanded.
    Without vehicles we go back towards cave-man local tribes and exclusivity.
    So why is the cost of maintenance of vehicles not tightly controlled by Government.???

    • @OldSchoolNoe
      @OldSchoolNoe ปีที่แล้ว

      Easy fix, consumers need to stop buying technology they don't like.

  • @wakefieldyorkshire
    @wakefieldyorkshire 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    A conversion kit is desperately needed so this junk can be discarded and, a simple efficient tried and tested cable parking brake can be installed.

  • @Mike_44
    @Mike_44 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A drive belt on a brake caliper?!.. Go figure.. Imo these new automotive inventions are totally counterintuitive. Why not leave the calipers being hydraulic as they were and have worked perfectly for so many years. I simply don't get it. Another one is that stupid ESS (engine stop start) system.. Ugh!!

  • @OC3707
    @OC3707 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is the singular most stupid thing car makers have ever come up with.

  • @johnrroberts7900
    @johnrroberts7900 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks for this. Damn it, so I'm relying on that p*ssy little electric motor with its pathetically fragile drive belt to stop 2 tons of car in an emergency? If even one fails at speed, one wheel locks and the car goes out of control. What fool allowed these to be legal?

    • @BigEightiesNewWave
      @BigEightiesNewWave 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly , should be banned.

    • @williamsimmons152
      @williamsimmons152 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Parking brake

    • @johnrroberts7900
      @johnrroberts7900 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@williamsimmons152 And your emergency brake when the main brakes go out to lunch!

    • @williamsimmons152
      @williamsimmons152 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@johnrroberts7900 PARKING BRAKE !!! PARKING BRAKE!!!

    • @johnrroberts7900
      @johnrroberts7900 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@williamsimmons152 Yes, freno de mano in Spanish, frein à main in French, Feststellbremse in German. Do you carry a ship's anchor for when your main brakes fail?

  • @jvmiller1995
    @jvmiller1995 ปีที่แล้ว

    How stupid. Of a design. Why not just put a line lock on a brake line. That is how I park my 53 Chevy 5 window truck. Mine is a manual one. You put your foot on the brake and push it done. then you push in on a mounted button and let off of the brake. It locks the the line going to either the front or back or both if using 2. When you want to release the brake just push the pedal again just a little harder than when yo set and it releases. They work for ever and use zero electronics. Some times simpler is better.

  • @michaelkapp6444
    @michaelkapp6444 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Talk about over engineering

  • @MrFreerideForever
    @MrFreerideForever 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video about an absolutely horrible system. That heap of garbage was conjured by a moron or a profiteer, not someone who knows & cares about what they're doing. VW though, of course. 🙄

  • @Ryan-hi6zg
    @Ryan-hi6zg ปีที่แล้ว

    Yeah ill stick to cars with shoes. I'm all set with this garbage

  • @johnkenny4017
    @johnkenny4017 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you .Why the hell would that complicate such a simple thing I'll tell you why the cell parts and labor .Greed

  • @vallabhaipatel9757
    @vallabhaipatel9757 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Loved your Effort. its been of great help

  • @pjimmbojimmbo1990
    @pjimmbojimmbo1990 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Those things will be springing Hydraulic Leaks in short Order, with loss of Rear Brakes. I refuse to use the Parking Brake and have disabled any Hill Assist on my Car, so as to reduce any stress/wear/contamination of the Seals

  • @barryk8969
    @barryk8969 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A park brake that cannot be trusted. At least the lever/cable system wouldn’t fail because of a leaking seal. All seals will eventually leak. Then no park brake.