Watching from Oz. Been playing 50 years and single figures the whole time. Last 2 years I’ve developed an L5-S1 disc problem. Have never had anybody including some top coaches say to rotate the hips forward as in your root cause 1. If anything, universally they’ve said the opposite. Can’t believe how this has freed my turn and rotation back and forwards. Wider turn and less stress on my lower back. Better engagement of muscles in upper legs. Accidental click on your video has led to a revelation.
Means a lot to hear that Peter. After doing my studying on the body & looking through swings I learned the correct way to setup for a safe & free pivot. Glad it helped
First time watching your content Giles, great video and so informative! Not enough of the other channels i have watched speak about the pelvic tilt so ive never really known how it should look and this is a huge fault of mine. This will definitely help with my early extension thank you!
Wow this was incredible! I’ve never seen this level of detail before for Early Extension! Root cause number 2 is me and I never realised it was causing me to Early Extend! Looking forward to watching more of your videos in the future Giles!
I know it's early but after watching this video, I've had two range sessions and played one round and i eliminated the push/fade... Facing the palm down on the trail hand has squared my club face and improved accuracy! Thanks so much and keep those vids coming!
I do all of those habits, except I have a slightly strong grip. I have lower right back pain and I think its because of those things that are catching up with my body as I age, same age as the degree on a SW. But here's the kicker, I'm a 1.8 HC, no not 18, a 1.8. Been playing for 25years. Never taken a lesson, but I need to start fixing those issues soon. Thanks for the video.
Really interesting and a great example of how early extension isn’t a bad thing. It’s actually a reaction that allows you to hit the ball. Now the only thing is we don’t want you playing in pain so find the root cause as to why your body is producing the motion that causes your back pain & then you’ll be able to play for longer 👍🏻
Great video, Giles. Your presentation is really good - so much more flow than a lot of other YT content, especially on a fairly complex subject. Maybe you could just slow down a bit - take a brief pause every now & then so it’s not quite so frenetic but otherwise really impressive. I’ve subscribed 😊
Wish I had been taught this before going through 2 hip replacements and torn rotator cuff surgery. I have always said golf was invented by an orthopedic surgeon 😂😂😂.
I for sure suffer from the back pain and it resonates a lot. Thanks for the advice and the Bucket analogy will also keep this in my mind. Keep up good coaching. Thx
Very well presented. As a high school golf coach in the us the early extension concept is a constant problem and your three causes are nicely thought out. Much appreciated. Cheers.
Thanks buddy......first time the swing mechanics have been explained in layman's terms. At 60 I didn't think I would ever feel so enthusiastic about range time.
Comments like yours Andy are why I’m dedicating a lot of time moving forwards to TH-cam. Glad i could help, keep me posted with your progress but also fire away any questions you might have
Causes of early extension well exposed on video. Found it much easier to turn my hips with a retroverted pelvis. Have strengthened grip and kept wrist neutral rotating through shot. Swing looked much better and I didn't jump up on impact. Will need a lot of practice before I can hit it full whack though. Winter is long here !
Liked, subscribed etc. I like learning about the swing so this was great. Really detailed. Would echo what another comment said in that you could slow it down slightly at times but otherwise excellent 👍 I tend to slide my lower body towards target too much in transition rather than falling on to my left side so that could be a suggestion for a video. Happy to send you a video clip of my swing if that's a video you want to do and if it helps you.
I watched 90 percent of this vid thinking I’d wasted my time , right at the end there I am throwing my chest at the ball rushing my downswing .. for me it’s a failure to believe the balls going to go that distance without me really pushing . I don’t suffer this w-8i or woods and driver which I trust but 7, 6 and 5 irons are all off the toe weak as pee . I’m on it , but it’s hard .
Having your butt back behind you has nothing to do with creating lordosis in the lower spine - you're conflating two diff things. You can have your belt buckle pointing towards the ground AND still have a neutral lower spine - this is a very athletic and BALANCED position! Just look at major league baseball batters at the plate - even if they are standing more vertically waiting for the pitch, once they go to swing what happens? Their butt extends into a squatting position as this counter-balances the weight of the bat/arm unit as they accelerate rotationally. Same for tennis players hitting a hip high forehand shot. Same with Hockey players hitting a hard slap shot. Same, same, same! Just look at Rory's address position at the beginning of this video... butt back, buckle pointing DOWN towards the ball, AND a neutral lower spine. (th-cam.com/video/Lwv-OV0_82k/w-d-xo.html). Initiating the downswing with the upper body and arms (instead of the lower body) is THE culprit in early extension! A player MUST stand up if he/she/they are throwing the club at the ball with their chest and arms - it's the ONLY way to avoid hitting fat shots and actually make contact with the ball! I do wish YT instructors would stop misleading ppl on this topic with things that ultimately do not matter!
I 100% agree with you that sticking your butt back doesn’t necessarily have to be as a result of the lower spine being in anterior pelvic tilt. However sticking your butt too far back behind (even with a neutral spine) will promote the likely hood of some form of early extension move. Now if you look at players like Adam Scott & Rory Mcilroy they both have very straight backs. Both are incredible flexible & athletic humans who train every day. For the majority of people they can’t achieve this position. If you also watch Adam Scott you will see he does suck his head back during the downswing. (which is a form of early extension) Ultimately every golfer is different & has very different flexibility levels. For the majority of golfers we have seen through biomechanics that the posture I have show in this video is safer, provides more rotational freedom & allows a player to maintain better angles. Does it mean you have to do it? Of course not but I would advise for the majority they do more mobility & safety reasons. Love the comment & hope this translates my way of thinking. Thanks Troy 👍🏻
Great tips especially the 3rd one
Thank you!
Great video. Thank you.
Glad it helped Steve!
I’m gonna practice the “pelvis tuck” movement tonight … for my golf swing to improve 😝
Hope it helps
Watching from Oz. Been playing 50 years and single figures the whole time. Last 2 years I’ve developed an L5-S1 disc problem. Have never had anybody including some top coaches say to rotate the hips forward as in your root cause 1. If anything, universally they’ve said the opposite.
Can’t believe how this has freed my turn and rotation back and forwards. Wider turn and less stress on my lower back. Better engagement of muscles in upper legs. Accidental click on your video has led to a revelation.
Means a lot to hear that Peter. After doing my studying on the body & looking through swings I learned the correct way to setup for a safe & free pivot. Glad it helped
Great point
@@N-M362 thank you Nick
Thanks!
Thank so much Jura! Appreciate the support 🙌🏻
First time watching your content Giles, great video and so informative! Not enough of the other channels i have watched speak about the pelvic tilt so ive never really known how it should look and this is a huge fault of mine.
This will definitely help with my early extension thank you!
Glad you enjoyed the video! The pelvic tilt is crucial to get right!
Wow this was incredible! I’ve never seen this level of detail before for Early Extension! Root cause number 2 is me and I never realised it was causing me to Early Extend! Looking forward to watching more of your videos in the future Giles!
Thanks Lewis! Glad I could shine some light on your root cause for your EE. Good luck 👍🏻
Fantastic summary - none of the waffle! Love the pace of explanation too.
Thanks Drew! Glad you enjoyed the video
Great content in this video! 👍 Appreciate the different chapters in the description.
Thanks Olof! Glad you enjoyed the video
I know it's early but after watching this video, I've had two range sessions and played one round and i eliminated the push/fade... Facing the palm down on the trail hand has squared my club face and improved accuracy! Thanks so much and keep those vids coming!
Wow amazing to hear! Keep up the great work Chick! I’ll keep those videos coming for you
Hi Giles, you’re a very good teacher, thanks. Keep up good coaching !!
Thank you Rob! Glad you enjoyed the video!
Quality Giles mate wouldn't expect anything else, definitely could use these tips for my game!
Thanks Eddie! Glad these tips can help your game 👍🏻
I do all of those habits, except I have a slightly strong grip. I have lower right back pain and I think its because of those things that are catching up with my body as I age, same age as the degree on a SW. But here's the kicker, I'm a 1.8 HC, no not 18, a 1.8.
Been playing for 25years. Never taken a lesson, but I need to start fixing those issues soon.
Thanks for the video.
Really interesting and a great example of how early extension isn’t a bad thing. It’s actually a reaction that allows you to hit the ball. Now the only thing is we don’t want you playing in pain so find the root cause as to why your body is producing the motion that causes your back pain & then you’ll be able to play for longer 👍🏻
Fantastic content! So much valuable info here.
Thanks Joshua! Glad you enjoyed the video & found value in it 👍🏻
Great to see you on TH-cam Giles, more power to your elbow sir! I recognise point 3 on this video - definitely the next thing for me to work on!
Thanks Darren! Point 3 is going to work wonders for your game. Glad you enjoyed the video!
Great video, Giles. Your presentation is really good - so much more flow than a lot of other YT content, especially on a fairly complex subject. Maybe you could just slow down a bit - take a brief pause every now & then so it’s not quite so frenetic but otherwise really impressive. I’ve subscribed 😊
Thanks for the kind words John. I’ll take that feedback on board & I appreciate your help. Let me know if you have any video requests 👍🏻
Wish I had been taught this before going through 2 hip replacements and torn rotator cuff surgery. I have always said golf was invented by an orthopedic surgeon 😂😂😂.
@@77777771955 wow those sound like some heavy injuries! It’s a miracle you can still golf!
Brilliant video. I definitely suffer from this in my game. Will work on that today at the range especially my grip.
Thanks Terance! Glad you enjoyed the video. Let me know how it goes.
Yep!! I believe im doing all 3 of these. Great info and explanation.
Glad i could help and great to hear you enjoyed the video. Let me know if you have any future video requests
I for sure suffer from the back pain and it resonates a lot. Thanks for the advice and the Bucket analogy will also keep this in my mind.
Keep up good coaching. Thx
Thank you Mark! Great to hear the video resonated with yourself and I hope that tip helps alleviate some of your back pain!
@@Gilesgillgolf losing a few Covid pounds might also help but this will keep the wife off my back!! Will be trying it tomorrow at range 👊👍
@@Fitzy1976_ let me know how it goes!
Very well presented. As a high school golf coach in the us the early extension concept is a constant problem and your three causes are nicely thought out. Much appreciated. Cheers.
Thank you Terry. Hope this helps you cure some of those early extensions! If you have any video requests then let me know
Great points!
Thanks MG! Glad you liked the video 🙌🏻
Do you try and maintain your belt line throughout the swing or let it naturally do what it wants
Great question and the belt line what’s to move up and down so don’t try and fight it 👍🏻
Thanks buddy......first time the swing mechanics have been explained in layman's terms. At 60 I didn't think I would ever feel so enthusiastic about range time.
Comments like yours Andy are why I’m dedicating a lot of time moving forwards to TH-cam. Glad i could help, keep me posted with your progress but also fire away any questions you might have
Great video Giles 👌🏼
Thanks Poppy 🙏🏼
Causes of early extension well exposed on video. Found it much easier to turn my hips with a retroverted pelvis. Have strengthened grip and kept wrist neutral rotating through shot. Swing looked much better and I didn't jump up on impact. Will need a lot of practice before I can hit it full whack though. Winter is long here !
Glad I could clear everything up for you & get you moving down the right path. Keep me posted on your progress 👍🏻
Thanks Great Great Video
Glad you enjoyed it Joseph 🙌🏻
Liked, subscribed etc. I like learning about the swing so this was great. Really detailed. Would echo what another comment said in that you could slow it down slightly at times but otherwise excellent 👍 I tend to slide my lower body towards target too much in transition rather than falling on to my left side so that could be a suggestion for a video. Happy to send you a video clip of my swing if that's a video you want to do and if it helps you.
Thanks for the comment Iain & I’ll add that to the video list. Feel free to send me over your swing anyway 👍🏻
Thank u for this video, now I know what my hands should do. Stared hitting baby draws
Amazing! Glad I could help 🙌🏻
I watched 90 percent of this vid thinking I’d wasted my time , right at the end there I am throwing my chest at the ball rushing my downswing ..
for me it’s a failure to believe the balls going to go that distance without me really pushing .
I don’t suffer this w-8i or woods and driver which I trust but 7, 6 and 5 irons are all off the toe weak as pee .
I’m on it , but it’s hard .
I feel for you as it’s a hard change to make. Check out my video “Tour pros know this” as that will be everything you need right there
Having your butt back behind you has nothing to do with creating lordosis in the lower spine - you're conflating two diff things. You can have your belt buckle pointing towards the ground AND still have a neutral lower spine - this is a very athletic and BALANCED position! Just look at major league baseball batters at the plate - even if they are standing more vertically waiting for the pitch, once they go to swing what happens? Their butt extends into a squatting position as this counter-balances the weight of the bat/arm unit as they accelerate rotationally. Same for tennis players hitting a hip high forehand shot. Same with Hockey players hitting a hard slap shot. Same, same, same! Just look at Rory's address position at the beginning of this video... butt back, buckle pointing DOWN towards the ball, AND a neutral lower spine. (th-cam.com/video/Lwv-OV0_82k/w-d-xo.html).
Initiating the downswing with the upper body and arms (instead of the lower body) is THE culprit in early extension! A player MUST stand up if he/she/they are throwing the club at the ball with their chest and arms - it's the ONLY way to avoid hitting fat shots and actually make contact with the ball! I do wish YT instructors would stop misleading ppl on this topic with things that ultimately do not matter!
I 100% agree with you that sticking your butt back doesn’t necessarily have to be as a result of the lower spine being in anterior pelvic tilt. However sticking your butt too far back behind (even with a neutral spine) will promote the likely hood of some form of early extension move.
Now if you look at players like Adam Scott & Rory Mcilroy they both have very straight backs. Both are incredible flexible & athletic humans who train every day. For the majority of people they can’t achieve this position. If you also watch Adam Scott you will see he does suck his head back during the downswing. (which is a form of early extension)
Ultimately every golfer is different & has very different flexibility levels. For the majority of golfers we have seen through biomechanics that the posture I have show in this video is safer, provides more rotational freedom & allows a player to maintain better angles. Does it mean you have to do it? Of course not but I would advise for the majority they do more mobility & safety reasons.
Love the comment & hope this translates my way of thinking. Thanks Troy 👍🏻
GG video sure helped me with my right elbow!