Hellboy - What's the Difference?
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- Correction: Hellboy came out in 2004, not in 2006. Our bads!
Correction 2: This is Von Krupt, not Von Klempt.
In the age of reboots, nothing is safe, even Hellboy. Before we get into the weeds of the differences between the two buff devil men, we're here to ask, "What's the difference between Mike Mignola's graphic novel and Guillermo Del Toro's Hellboy?"
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Del Toro is one of those creators who genuinely tries to understand the spirit of a project.
I hope one day he makes a live action remake of the Gargoyles.
Wow I didn't knowI need a Guillermo del Toro version of Gargoyles.
It's right up his street too, sentient, eloquent "monsters", deep lore and history rich in Arthurian legends, one of The most charming animated bad guys that can put Lex Luthor to shame, haunting visuals.
All of it set in a gentle hearted kids cartoon with deep, dark overtones.
If the studios let him do it his way.......i don't know how to type that finger tips kiss thing that tv chefs do but That!
Oh yes please, the magic on that!
Holy fuck I need that
Despite the visual accuracy of the film I think del Toro failed to transmit the "spirit", as you say, of the comic, in the first Hellboy film there are plenty of errors protraying the characters and more than a handfull of problems in the script. The FBI agent has more time on screen than Abe and it is insufferable, Hellboy itself is very bad written in the movie, way too childish for a near 50 year old man, fuck that scene with the kid, the cookies and the milk on the rooftop where the kid advices him is the worst "character development" moment I ever seen
In the comics the public are aware of Hellboy, but his adventures often take place in hidden, ancient temples and strange forrests. Whereas, in the Del Toro movies Hellboy's identity is initially secret, but he operates mostly in New York city.
That's something I always wondered how does the overall world treat supernatural creatures? You don't see them socializing with humans. Are they just unaware of the supernatural.
being secretive makes more sense. working in the shadows, but at the same time saving lives
There's nothing wrong with taking bits and pieces from the comic books and turning it into a badass movie.
One more thing. Abe Sapiens.
n the movie, he is a quirky, awkward empath with no fighting capabilities.
In the comics, he's an action badass taking down dire threats on his own.
He and Hellboy have roughly the same relationship, Hellboy saved him from the Bureau's experimentation, like he saved all sapient "abnormals" the Bureau found, and there is a mutual respect and understanding. In the comic book though, Abe is also Hellboy's disciple and the reason he stays in the Bureau at first. While Hellboy treats him as an equal and his own man, Abe admire him as a mix of a father figure and a moral compass.
yeah Abe is way better in the comics imo
@@jarredmorris9749 I completely agree. I love movie Abe mind you, he's just not the same character. I love the fishman commando.
@@Contevent he's definitely an endearing character for sure. I love his stoic nature and overall look in the comics more. Gotta love Doug Jones though
Surprised you guys didn't mention how Abe is basically a new character in the movie, since in the comics he's not the quite soft type with a psychic touch, he's a just a fish that with his wits, his fists and sometimes a gun, which makes his the BPRD's second best field agent behind Hellboy
To say he's "just a fish" is a MASSIVE lie as a psychic with paranormal skills and knowledge to handle threats. And to say he's " BPRD's second best field agent behind Hellboy" is NO small feat considering how massively skilled Hellboy is!
You forgot to mention that Hellboy's character differs a lot from the comics . In the movies, Hellboy is somewhat a teenager , trying to find a place in this world . In the comics he is an adult that doesn't talk much and basically deals with more adult themes .
Yeah now that I think about it , I phrased that really poorly . But movie hellboy does quite differ from the comics .
The attitude yes...the thing of fightning against he is the key of the Apocalypse not.
Dr. Warwee that’s what the reboot is missing, also...no, he doesn’t even fit the teen persona :T
Lol he does have that I am too old for this shit look in the comics
Glad somebody else said his! Big fan of the movies, but the characterization is completely different between the two mediums.
Hellboy just won't be the same without Rom Pearlman as Red. This is the perfect example of a reboot that nobody wanted or asked for.
Fans have wanted a true adaptation since the original movies came out and didn't do it justice
Whether the new movie ends up being that remains to be seen, but still
@@Lazypackmule LOL What? These movies ARE a true adaption of the source martial while making the right changes for the films as it DID do it justice. You have to be talking about yourself here and yourself only as the Hellboy movies are critically acclaimed films that people love!
Hellboy is waaaay more immature in the movies than in the comics.
honestly depends on which book you read, the books set earlier in the time show a different hellboy to the one we initially got
Brendan Kollman this isn’t true. Even in the current series of hellboy set in the 1950’s where he is a new agent he still isn’t as immature as he is in the movies. Hellboy has never acted like he does the the del toro movies and as a fan of hellboy it makes it really hard to watch
True. The bratty teenage Hellboy from the movies (which is also more or less the reboot film version, too) is not the Hellboy from the comics.
That he is- in an effort to make him more relatable.
@@Todie85 Making a chatacter immature and bratty doesnt automatically equal more relatable nor are they mutually exclusive traits.
Yes my boy hellboy is finally getting a what's a difference
And this is why Del Toro and Perlman made the best kind of Hellboy movie, they took inspiration from the source and made something badass with it.
This other movie looks like something Michael Bay would've filmed. -_-
Sorry reboot, but Ron Perlman is the only red guy I know.
"Red rocket yum" -geardog2.... lol
Damn right
@@diegom-a7970 question
What's gives a new guy a chance, cast judgment after the movie
@@hewhogoesevenfurtherbeyond9296 try to tell that to my friend
One thing that helped in the original HELLBOY films is that Comic Creator and Artist Mike Mignola worked closely with Del Toro so that the film and characters felt like the comic counterparts. Mignola himself said that he based Hellboy from Ron Perlman himself and couldn't think on anyone else playing the role.
he based hellboy off his dad not ron Perlman
@@michaelkelley2727 Actually if you look up the behind the scenes of Hellboy, Mike Mignola said that when he drew Hellboy, the character was looking like Ron Perlman, and he had made the comment about it. So when he and Del Toro were working on casting the role, both of them said "Ron Perlman". Look it up, those are not my words, they are both Mignola's and Del Toro's words.
The hellboy series has been my favorite movie series since I was legit 4 yrs old, and Del Toro is definitely my favorite director in the world.
That reboot looks really generic. Like they promised it'd be dark and gritty but instead they showed the same tone as the last two films but without the charm and fun.
That's because it's got SJW politics inserted into the movie.
@@user-jv7gr1jb3r huh?? Please stop lol
This
@@user-jv7gr1jb3r DURRRRR SJW'S ARE RUININ' MOVIES DURRRRRRR
@@robbiethomson2337 I'M A SMART TART BECAUSE I TAKE JOKES THAT AREN'T THAT SERIOUS OR PERSONAL TOO SERIOUSLY AND PERSONALLY.
Del Toro is amazing 😯
joe rock in ikr I love benicio del toro
@@half-lifescientist1991 lololol
Half-Life Scientist no no no no no no, BEINICIO Del toro is an actor, and GUILLERMO Del toro is a movie director. Learn the difference
@@_uncommon_sins_7867 Hey, did you see that joke fly over your head? Oh, you must have missed it. Oh well.
@@_uncommon_sins_7867 you the one who doesnt understand the joke
One of the best edited channels I’ve seen...thanks for the great content!
If anyone liked Hellboy, I highly recommend watching two animated works where Ron and Liz eeprise their roles. I Believe they are called HellboyL Sword of the Storm and HB Blood and Iron.
"Big man himself stayed largely the same"
Literally wut man
This is 100% untrue
He went from a grizzled, quiet, melancholic old warrior to a one liner-quiping teen
They even mention he's like a teen in the movies
In the movie, the hellboy comics still exist, and are based on rumours about him. So, just like Del Toro took the imagery of the comics, in the movie universe the comic creators seem to have taken the few stories and sightings of their real hellboy and made a comic out of it!
Mind = blown
The editing on this episode especially those scenes in the panels is fire
this was the best editing work i have seen in a while , hell yeah
5:32 Roger the homunculus appear in the Second film. Though Only as a easter egg in the background.
Really?!! I will see it again...
He's actually in both
Do you know what scene?
Great episode - thanks for this! I read Seed of Destruction recently and then had to go back and watch Hellboy again! Mignola is one of the greats.
This is like a live action extension of the comic, In the same way that a new author might come up with new stories but hold on to the feel of the characters and the world.
Perfect timing guys. I just watched this film last night! It’s like you read my mind.
I looked for this exact video last week! So glad is here :)
Happy New Years CineFix ! Have a great 2019 love your channel 🎊💜
Hi! I just wanted to say this channel is awesome, and I hope everyone has a great day or night 🙂
Great video bruh!
I’ve always loved the original hellboy so the this new one BETTER BE GOOD
It's got SJW politics in the new one.
Odd Apprentice NOOOOO
@@user-jv7gr1jb3r What? how exactly?
@@user-jv7gr1jb3r The villain is a woman. It's far from being a SJW project.
@@TheSpaceJockey91 In SJW world she will be the tragic hero. Mrs. Understood to be exact. Hellboy and it's happy theme put the R rated theme in the back seat. Female ghostbuster humor.
Could you please do: The Planet Of The Apes, Cloud Atlas, The Godfather and Forrest Gump ?
Cloud Atlas would be an awesome analysis, because the Wachowskis were so faithful to the book in many ways, but completely re-structured it.
I'm more amazed how those titles originated from books. Books, gotta love 'em.
I think Shutter Island would be a good analysis too.
You guys should do much more of these
good job. I like the movies. I love the comics. Hellboy is my favourite comic book character. the story and the art are like nothing else in the industry and is such a breath of fresh air from the usual DC and Marvel stuff.
I was gonna write it until I read the description. Happy New years fam
would you guys consider doing a vid on The secret of Nimh - What's the difference episode?
Thanks for doing this one! I have always been curious of what a WTD on this would be like and you did not disappoint in the slightest. I am also curious as to what this new reboot will be like, and will give it a shot(although no one, repeat NO ONE, can replace Ron Perlman's pitch perfect performance in my opinion.)
Mitch Neu but Ron pearlman was nothing like the comic hellboy either read the comics or don’t talk out your ass
Ron Pearlman will always be Hellboy, to me. #notmyHellboy
To me he is Hellbae
Tell me your kidding because im bad at reading sarcasm
Lady Leomon except that never happened in the comics. That whole situation doesn’t make any fucking sense. Your wishing for something that completely deviates from the fucking source material
@@LadyLeomon he didn't want to retire. He wanted to do the third one with Del Toro. He's pretty upset about it all.
he disgraced hell boy simple
one of my favorite movies from one of my favorite directors glad he knows how to do great adaptations
I just started the hellboy comics and tbh....this movie will always be my favorite hellboy
The head in the jar in the Hellboy books is Herman von Klempt, not the same guy as Werner von Krupt. Von Krupt dies shortly after the summoning of Hellboy, and von Krupt pops up in stories all the way until the present day.
It's about time. Great comparison.
Ik expections are high the last two were absolutely amazing, but I'm going to hold judgement until the movie comes out. Who knows it could be really good!
your channel used to be my favorite channel with home made movies
You should do a video on Hellboy 2: The Golden Army.
I hope you guys eventually cover the sequel and the two animated movies
_'Seems like we just had a pretty good Hellboy or two, but here comes another one all the same.'_
Just like the others, only, you know, like... not good.
I was excited when they announced a reboot but after seeing the direction they chose to take I'm not really a fan. I'll def go see it when it comes out but I honestly really liked the original films.
Hell yeah I cant wait for the new hell boy.
The Hellboy movie is what introduced me to other comic companies besides Marvel and I'm still thankful for that tbh
The homonculus can actually be seen in a glass case in the background at one point in the film.
DRIVE - What's the Difference?
Nicolas Winding Refn's film between James Sallis's book, please!
You guys should do a What's the Difference on Happy! Would be an interesting one
Plz do one of these on Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy
Robert C Acunas Devil You Know Trailer was the Hellboy trailer we should have seen, so check it out!
Please do a What’s the Difference for How to Train Your Dragon.
Thomas Grindol what
We'd be here forever. It's nothing like the book.
I'd say that BPRD being secret changed the story quite a bit, especially the Golden Army. And Abe seems more general in the movie (probably to distinguish himself from Hellboy). Johann Krauss in Golden Army, on the other hand, is completely different character with the same look and powers (in the BPRD series, the newest member of team learing the ropes. In the movie his the senior member of the BPRD assigned to keep HB inline). Also both his romantic storyline with Liz and a bigger emphasis on the relationship with Bruttenholm, kind ofmake movie HB feel like brooding teenager at times.
I would love to see you guys do 13 warrior against eaters of the dead
Correction about Kronen's weapons in the movie, at the start they're wrist blades, and after the jump forward to then present day, they're tonfas.
Can you guys please do one of these about Happy!
6:12 I really shouldn't have laughed as hard as I did from hearing that stock frog noise, but here we are.
Please do bellboy 2, it's my favorite
Roger, the homunculus, does appear in the movie - albeit standing motionless in a BPRD display case.
I just hope the reboot is darker (like the graphic novel) unlike the trailer
Now that it’s finished do you think you could do a what’s the difference on A Series of Unfortunate Events?
So in April are you guys gonna do Infinity Gauntlet (Comic) vs. Infinity War (Film)?
Jacob Waters no
Jordan Bryce are you Cinefix? I don’t think so
Why wouldn't they do infinity war the comic.
In preparation for Endgame
I cannot wait for the new one
You guys should do Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy
Heard 2006 and got super confused lol I remembered it being around longer, turns out it was released in 2004. Tiny goof, makes sense now!
This is a really cool book vs movie video, i didn’t realize how different they were from eachother, mainly because books are much more expensive than the movie counterparts.
On another note: have you guys considered doing a book vs movie on “felidae”? The one movie review that gave some nod to the book only mentions it in passing while making a joke with a clip from the simpsons. Which is fine but not very educational for a broke reader.
Love them both.
Please do a whats the difference for candyman and the forbidden by Clive Barker. Thanks!!
Can you guys do an episode for Umbrella Academy? Would be kinda interesting to compare the two books and their adaptations to each other
One of the movies I get out every so often when I just want to have fun watching a movie
Yall should do trainspotting for the next one
Yoooo do a series of unfortunate events
Cinefix can you please do what the difference between hellboy 2 the golden army and the book
Can you do one on the difference between the book "hannibal" and the movie with the same name?
Any book from the trilogy would be great!
Great video! I just can't help but laugh at all the "I like this one better than the new one"... Sure... because the new one is already on cinemas... right... I guess I lost my nostalgia glasses somewhere, somehow.
please do Wanted next
The base for the first movie are wake the devil and seed of destruction, is a merging of those two
Could you guys do a Lion King comparison? Like compared to Hamlet by William Shakespeare? Since the movie is approaching, it would be fascinating... Or it would also be cool if you did a Pet Sematary one since, once again, the reboot is coming out.
I love these films
I would love to see a what's the difference hellboy 2 Golden army video.
Could you do a Top 10 Best Animated Films of All Time list?
With the 2019 trailer out, again I ponder on whether Avergers was a good thing or bad thing
What the Hell is the difference, Boy?!
Best quotes on internet.
Do a what’s the difference of a series of unfortunate events
Hellboy was one of the first comic book movies I ever saw - probably younger than I should have, but I still loved it xD
I sometimes really hate people, Mingola said that the movie will be totally different from the Del Toros and still people are complaing how Harbour dosent look like Ron
MORE!!
I love how everyone is already dissing on the reboot despite the fact that the movie isn’t out yet
The trailer didn’t leave the best impression... but still
I’m probably in the minority but I actually thought the trailer was pretty damn cool. It made me excited to see the reboot. I hope it ends up being a good film.
Hell Boy 2019 DoP (according to wikipedia) "has also served as director of photography on a number of Syfy television films."
Actually Roger the Homunculus is in the first film in a blink and you'll miss scene while Bruttenholm and Meyers are walking down the hall talking about the history of the B.P.R.D.
What, no mention of Abe's powers in the movie or the fact that they made Hellboy fireproof in the movie?
Please do What's the Difference with Constantine
"spawn(comics and hbo) whats the difference?" next pleaz
Feeling like a broken record.. But will you guys please do Trainspotting?
My favorite is the second one...they were getting better and better and all of a sudden we never get the third one? I hate the fact that they never finished so I really hope this new one does justice
Nice, 👌
There's a direct line pulled from the comics as well, though who says it is reversed. In the movie, Hellboy says, "That's gonna hurt in the morning."
To which Abe replies "It is morning, Red."
And Hellboy responds "Good, cause it hurts now."
During the Cavendish battle in the comics this dialogue is seen word for word, only its Abe who's hurt and Hellboy who corrects him.