This was my Number 1 game last year played though it 3 times and completed all the side content and the dlc absolutely amazing fun game and the side quests just helped me feel immersed in the world. My only complaint would be the game does tend to be an ability spammy because hitting enemies with anything else feels like slapping em with a wooden spoon. Still loved the game tho.
Yeah I used to spam all of my abilities then do some brief combos until they all charged again and repeat 😂 it did feel really cool though. I haven't played the DLC I should probably pick those up.
@@hotcoldman77Well, it's all personal opinion lol I don't think anyone is drunk. I respect people who speak their true opinions especially unpopular ones.
Although it wasn’t a goty nominee as an old final fantasy fan this is one of my favorites even the best for me. Every final fantasy fan must always be grateful we are getting one. Still mad that this game became a punching bag of fake fans and journalists.
I'm still not a big fan of the ending, the main villain, how some characters were handled, the lack of rewarding exploration and rpg mechanics, the MMO style fetch quests that added very little beside stopping the pacing to a halt, Clive's standard sword moveset being so limited, Ifrits moveset being *even* more limited, and the use of a mechanic as unengaging as cooldowns in a fast paced hack n slash game. Most people say i dislike the combat because it is an action game, but rather its the opposite, i dislike it because it's not action *enough* . No amounts of skilled play will get the cooldowns back any faster, getting rewarded for waiting just isn't very exciting, the moveset being limited to only 6 abilities at a time doesn't help either. But i agree with you that that combo potential is still very large, i myself did have the most fun styling on enemies and swapping between builds despite my gripes with the limitations. And i can admit it is a well made game that succeeded at a lot of things it tried to do, even if i wasn't particularly a fan of them. I liked most of the characters and the boss fights were some of the most hype thing ever, some real Asura's Wrath energy there. I’d say better than XIII and XV as in its a complete game , but the complete game itself it’s aggressively middle of the road both as an action game and an rpg. Making you pay $25 DLC for a $70 game also rubbed me off the wrong way, just because it is normalized in modern gaming didn't make it any better, especially since it added such little content compared to some of the other games from Square Enix themselves, i expected them to be better than this. My first two playtrough were the most fun, unlocking more abilities and experimenting with all kinds of different combos, its only on the third playtrough i started noticing all the flaws. Despite all that i do believe this is a very high quality game that a lot of people would enjoy.
Yeah I agree with your criticisms especially once you play enough and take a step back things start to stand out more. I still finished the game 100% so I must have really enjoyed the game on some level haha.
I like soulslikes too but this was never marketed to be one so your expectations were your own let down. FF was not ever and will not ever be focused on the combat. Its the story, characters, and music that draw true FF fans in and it has been that was since day one. I could make solid arguments that most FF games had average combat at best but that was never the reason I played.
I've been a FF fan since the first game came out in the 80s and the saddest thing to me is watching people my age, now approaching their 40s mind you, throwing a fit every time a FF game or JRPG in general isn't turn based. Especially since plenty of turn based games still get made so there is no magical lack of turn based games like they claim every time a new FF is action based. But on the same note, even as a soulslike fan, I am getting tired of that community bashing every ARPG that doesn't play exactly like Elden Ring. There is room for difference and change isn't that big of a deal. lol I also highly expect a future FF game to return to turn based because every FF since the first has had different combat systems.
One of my all time fav games ever, easily in my top 10. Such a shame we can't get a part 2 like the sneeze fest 7 did with Rebirth. CLIVE BOSSFIELD is the GOAT
This is the best FF since 10 or maybe 12? 10 is better for sure but 16 is a great game. Only part I don’t like is there isn’t much of a party. The mature theme was very refreshing. Clive an absolute bad ass.
Yeah I agree it's the best one since X. The fragmented party system was definitely a bad decision hopefully they fix that for the next game but take the positives from XVI.
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FF16 is very much a guilty pleasure for me. On the one hand I see its issues: not a lot of variety with its gameplay, severe lack of RPG mechanics, weak side quests and little reason to explore hold the game back. On the other hand, the game shows its strengths with the story it tells, its world building, its breathtaking visuals and one of the most satisfying action game plays I have ever played. And do I need to talk about the Eikon battles? The game's highs are among the highest of the industry. And then, there is the Arcade Mode. I think I have earned the right to judge it, because I completely S-Ranked the game on Ultimaniac, scoring Top 10 on the leaderboards a few times. It is...a mess. It feels like the reason as to why the game lacks so much in variety, because balancing a lot of RPG systems in that mode would be impossible. But the entire mode is counterintuitive to what the game teaches you in its runtime. So, in the main game, your job is pretty clear: deal damage, a lot of it. Use your best abilities, get rid of small fry quickly, stagger big guys and beat them into submission. Now, Arcade mode puts the entire thing on its head! You're supposed to squeeze out enemies like lemons for points, using as many green and rainbow abilities as possible. And to do that, you need to actively keep them alive, while on the same time, managing your health and time, because if you're not aggressive enough, you lose your crucial time bonus, if you're too aggressive, welp, get A and B on every leg and lose all your potions. But weirdly enough, once you're really into it, it becomes strangely motivating, because you never interact with the systems like this in the main game. Tl;dr: I love FF16 and will defend it from anyone saying it's a bad game, but I will also never deny its flaws...
Yeah I think that's a great way to see it; its got flaws and won't please every fan but what it does well it does it extremely well. Also I never tried the arcade mode it sounds like a whole new way to play. I'll need to try it and the dlc as I've heard those are worthwhile too.
FFXVI was fantastic. Best story telling, character development, and music in a FF game since X with ease. I think where some people didn't like this game comes from their own expectations vs what the game was always going to be. You have the older diehard fans who reject all JRPGs that aren't turn based and constantly rag on non turn based games, a crowd mind that thinks they are much larger than the loud minority they actually are. Then there the soulslikes fans who think any ARPG that isn't a soulslike clone is instant garbage and those people are just as annoying. The majority of people I talked to that played this game loved it for what is was and that is the point. Every criticism of this game comes from people who wish it was something else even tho they knew for four years that is was going to exactly what it ended up being and that is not valid criticism. Its just outright whining over "wah wah I didn't the combat I wanted" 🙄
Definitely the best since X for me as well. I enjoy turn based and action based equally so I played FFXVI and DQXI and loved both. I don't feel as though FF needs to go back to turn based as it's evolved quite well into the action genre also with FFVII remake and rebirth being great to play.
i had my heart pouding every second in this game idk why it gets so much hate people may have to start like new things.. same for old school fans from ff7..i have played the game multiple times thru the 100% and even in final fantasy diff mode in ng+ it was even more fun.. maybe still a little too easy finally tho the leviathan dlc gave a little bit of challenge with the "secret" dungeon and stuff got really surprised at the cutscene and the secret thing i wont spoil.. anyway game had some bad things even for me like lack of side quest originality something that ff7 rebirth dosnt have i think this year rebirth will win goty they really deserve it along with this year masterpeaces like stellar blade and dragons dogma 2 i think they all deserve a spot but the n*1 is rebirth hands down
Me too, @@RPGStory. Hopefully, a space voyage, where traversing on airships and spaceships are prevalent, amongst all of the joys which stems from playing a Final Fantasy game.
IMHO, Final Fantasy 15 was the "blend" of traditional and modern Final Fantasy. For crying out loud it had chocobo song, Wedge and Biggs, and Sid. I have no expectation of alleged PC port of FF16, but so far, I see no point in checking it.
The combat got stale after a while and seemed very lazy. Story was good and it looked great but the game felt like a chore after a while. I prefer XIII over this game tbh.
Combat has never been a focus for this series tho and I would argue there is no FF game with great combat and by the end all of it gets stale through repetition alone. I know I don't play JRPGs for the combat, its purely for the story, characters, world setting, and music. Combat is just there and I'll use what is put forth.
@@hotcoldman77 no one has to defend it. We liked it you didn't. Get over yourself. you're not that important. lol Let me guess you are either a turn based purist that whines every time an rpg is action based or a soulslike addict that thinks if a game isn't impossibly hard "it totally sucks bro" and either way you are the kind of gamer that all other gamers can't stand lmao
16 is the worst final fantasy game ever made. No party members, no RPG elements, there is no strategy to combat like elemental strengths and weaknesses, no minigames, absolutely boring cast that is taking itself way too seriously, cringe edgelord protagonist that cries and whines all the time.
@@RPGStory Final Fantasy II was impressive for 1988. This game and its graphics has aged like milk. It does nothing new and has has no ambitions whatsoever.
It's an awful Final Fantasy game. Don't get me wrong, it's a great Devil May Cry, but just not a great JRPG. The Icon Battles were spectacular, and Clive was great. I hope FFXVII returns to the classic JRPG fold. But that's just my taste 😉
Terrible game, didn't finish it, frame rate skipped like hell unless you were in battle. They used the crystal dynamics engine, that's the problem, same graphics problems as Forspoken.
I played in performance mode but don't know how much that helped as I played on launch before all the patches. I haven't seen too much of forspoken other than the technical issues yeah that engine doesn't seem so great.
FF16 uses "crystal tools" engine the same they used for FF14, not Luminous engine used by Forspoken. It is also not related to crystal dynamics, the studio that used to be owned by sqex.
This was my Number 1 game last year played though it 3 times and completed all the side content and the dlc absolutely amazing fun game and the side quests just helped me feel immersed in the world. My only complaint would be the game does tend to be an ability spammy because hitting enemies with anything else feels like slapping em with a wooden spoon. Still loved the game tho.
Yeah I used to spam all of my abilities then do some brief combos until they all charged again and repeat 😂 it did feel really cool though. I haven't played the DLC I should probably pick those up.
Can’t express how much I love FF16. Best FF since the PS1 era. Love it so much
I think a lot of people forget about how controversial XIII was. XVI is far superior and like you said the best single player FF in a long while.
Best since PS1 era? L take
FF16 better than FFX??? You must be drunk lmaooo
@@hotcoldman77Well, it's all personal opinion lol I don't think anyone is drunk. I respect people who speak their true opinions especially unpopular ones.
@@hotcoldman77 FFX is iconic but for me the characters and world didn’t click with me. So yes, I prefer the story of XVI over X.
Although it wasn’t a goty nominee as an old final fantasy fan this is one of my favorites even the best for me. Every final fantasy fan must always be grateful we are getting one. Still mad that this game became a punching bag of fake fans and journalists.
Yeah I was surprised by how much hate it was getting. It has its flaws like any game but don't think it's this terrible game it's made out to be.
I'm still not a big fan of the ending, the main villain, how some characters were handled, the lack of rewarding exploration and rpg mechanics, the MMO style fetch quests that added very little beside stopping the pacing to a halt, Clive's standard sword moveset being so limited, Ifrits moveset being *even* more limited, and the use of a mechanic as unengaging as cooldowns in a fast paced hack n slash game.
Most people say i dislike the combat because it is an action game, but rather its the opposite, i dislike it because it's not action *enough* . No amounts of skilled play will get the cooldowns back any faster, getting rewarded for waiting just isn't very exciting, the moveset being limited to only 6 abilities at a time doesn't help either. But i agree with you that that combo potential is still very large, i myself did have the most fun styling on enemies and swapping between builds despite my gripes with the limitations.
And i can admit it is a well made game that succeeded at a lot of things it tried to do, even if i wasn't particularly a fan of them. I liked most of the characters and the boss fights were some of the most hype thing ever, some real Asura's Wrath energy there. I’d say better than XIII and XV as in its a complete game , but the complete game itself it’s aggressively middle of the road both as an action game and an rpg. Making you pay $25 DLC for a $70 game also rubbed me off the wrong way, just because it is normalized in modern gaming didn't make it any better, especially since it added such little content compared to some of the other games from Square Enix themselves, i expected them to be better than this. My first two playtrough were the most fun, unlocking more abilities and experimenting with all kinds of different combos, its only on the third playtrough i started noticing all the flaws. Despite all that i do believe this is a very high quality game that a lot of people would enjoy.
Yeah I agree with your criticisms especially once you play enough and take a step back things start to stand out more. I still finished the game 100% so I must have really enjoyed the game on some level haha.
I like soulslikes too but this was never marketed to be one so your expectations were your own let down. FF was not ever and will not ever be focused on the combat. Its the story, characters, and music that draw true FF fans in and it has been that was since day one. I could make solid arguments that most FF games had average combat at best but that was never the reason I played.
Nothing more critical to final fantasy than final fantasy "fans", especially JRPG purists. (from the comments as of this one)
Yeah I wasn't expecting the odds to be stacked in favour of the disappointed haha
I've been a FF fan since the first game came out in the 80s and the saddest thing to me is watching people my age, now approaching their 40s mind you, throwing a fit every time a FF game or JRPG in general isn't turn based. Especially since plenty of turn based games still get made so there is no magical lack of turn based games like they claim every time a new FF is action based. But on the same note, even as a soulslike fan, I am getting tired of that community bashing every ARPG that doesn't play exactly like Elden Ring. There is room for difference and change isn't that big of a deal. lol I also highly expect a future FF game to return to turn based because every FF since the first has had different combat systems.
One of my all time fav games ever, easily in my top 10. Such a shame we can't get a part 2 like the sneeze fest 7 did with Rebirth. CLIVE BOSSFIELD is the GOAT
I wonder if they'll ever do a part 2 again like they did with X and XIII, those quite never worked out unfortunately
This is the best FF since 10 or maybe 12? 10 is better for sure but 16 is a great game. Only part I don’t like is there isn’t much of a party. The mature theme was very refreshing. Clive an absolute bad ass.
Yeah I agree it's the best one since X. The fragmented party system was definitely a bad decision hopefully they fix that for the next game but take the positives from XVI.
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FF16 is very much a guilty pleasure for me. On the one hand I see its issues: not a lot of variety with its gameplay, severe lack of RPG mechanics, weak side quests and little reason to explore hold the game back.
On the other hand, the game shows its strengths with the story it tells, its world building, its breathtaking visuals and one of the most satisfying action game plays I have ever played. And do I need to talk about the Eikon battles? The game's highs are among the highest of the industry.
And then, there is the Arcade Mode. I think I have earned the right to judge it, because I completely S-Ranked the game on Ultimaniac, scoring Top 10 on the leaderboards a few times. It is...a mess. It feels like the reason as to why the game lacks so much in variety, because balancing a lot of RPG systems in that mode would be impossible. But the entire mode is counterintuitive to what the game teaches you in its runtime.
So, in the main game, your job is pretty clear: deal damage, a lot of it. Use your best abilities, get rid of small fry quickly, stagger big guys and beat them into submission. Now, Arcade mode puts the entire thing on its head! You're supposed to squeeze out enemies like lemons for points, using as many green and rainbow abilities as possible. And to do that, you need to actively keep them alive, while on the same time, managing your health and time, because if you're not aggressive enough, you lose your crucial time bonus, if you're too aggressive, welp, get A and B on every leg and lose all your potions. But weirdly enough, once you're really into it, it becomes strangely motivating, because you never interact with the systems like this in the main game.
Tl;dr: I love FF16 and will defend it from anyone saying it's a bad game, but I will also never deny its flaws...
Yeah I think that's a great way to see it; its got flaws and won't please every fan but what it does well it does it extremely well. Also I never tried the arcade mode it sounds like a whole new way to play. I'll need to try it and the dlc as I've heard those are worthwhile too.
FFXVI was fantastic. Best story telling, character development, and music in a FF game since X with ease. I think where some people didn't like this game comes from their own expectations vs what the game was always going to be. You have the older diehard fans who reject all JRPGs that aren't turn based and constantly rag on non turn based games, a crowd mind that thinks they are much larger than the loud minority they actually are. Then there the soulslikes fans who think any ARPG that isn't a soulslike clone is instant garbage and those people are just as annoying. The majority of people I talked to that played this game loved it for what is was and that is the point. Every criticism of this game comes from people who wish it was something else even tho they knew for four years that is was going to exactly what it ended up being and that is not valid criticism. Its just outright whining over "wah wah I didn't the combat I wanted" 🙄
Definitely the best since X for me as well. I enjoy turn based and action based equally so I played FFXVI and DQXI and loved both. I don't feel as though FF needs to go back to turn based as it's evolved quite well into the action genre also with FFVII remake and rebirth being great to play.
As a package, 16 is great. It certainly has its flaws though
Yeah without a doubt has its flaws. Lots to be encouraged by and hopefully they iron out the flaws going forward with the next mainline game.
i had my heart pouding every second in this game idk why it gets so much hate people may have to start like new things.. same for old school fans from ff7..i have played the game multiple times thru the 100% and even in final fantasy diff mode in ng+ it was even more fun.. maybe still a little too easy finally tho the leviathan dlc gave a little bit of challenge with the "secret" dungeon and stuff got really surprised at the cutscene and the secret thing i wont spoil.. anyway game had some bad things even for me like lack of side quest originality something that ff7 rebirth dosnt have i think this year rebirth will win goty they really deserve it along with this year masterpeaces like stellar blade and dragons dogma 2 i think they all deserve a spot but the n*1 is rebirth hands down
I still haven't played the DLC but sounds like it's worth it to go back and play. Yeah I'm loving Rebirth too going for 100% and just savouring it.
Still haven't played anything as good
Glad to see you really enjoyed it!
Final Fantasy XVI is a staple, not just for the franchise, but triple-A gaming as a whole, paving the way for future blockbuster projects.
I'm definitely excited to see where they take the franchise with XVII and other remakes.
Me too, @@RPGStory. Hopefully, a space voyage, where traversing on airships and spaceships are prevalent, amongst all of the joys which stems from playing a Final Fantasy game.
IMHO, Final Fantasy 15 was the "blend" of traditional and modern Final Fantasy. For crying out loud it had chocobo song, Wedge and Biggs, and Sid.
I have no expectation of alleged PC port of FF16, but so far, I see no point in checking it.
I really enjoyed 15 as well once I accepted it for what it is. It was in development hell so the fact that it turned out the way it did was a miracle.
What did YOU think about FFXVI?
my favorite game of all time
Found it boring as hell and a chore to get through.
@@lafairr I can see how that is, it's such an epic game
@@Zydain Yeah I felt that way with the side quests and the more open areas of the world that were quite barren
The combat got stale after a while and seemed very lazy. Story was good and it looked great but the game felt like a chore after a while. I prefer XIII over this game tbh.
I really enjoyed XIII as well. They both tried to be really linear in their design which XIII was criticised a lot for.
Combat has never been a focus for this series tho and I would argue there is no FF game with great combat and by the end all of it gets stale through repetition alone. I know I don't play JRPGs for the combat, its purely for the story, characters, world setting, and music. Combat is just there and I'll use what is put forth.
Stop trying to defend it. FF16 combat was terrible. DMC wannabe but completely missed the mark and failed lmao
@@hotcoldman77 no one has to defend it. We liked it you didn't. Get over yourself. you're not that important. lol Let me guess you are either a turn based purist that whines every time an rpg is action based or a soulslike addict that thinks if a game isn't impossibly hard "it totally sucks bro" and either way you are the kind of gamer that all other gamers can't stand lmao
Game sucked tbh
16 is the worst final fantasy game ever made.
No party members, no RPG elements, there is no strategy to combat like elemental strengths and weaknesses, no minigames, absolutely boring cast that is taking itself way too seriously, cringe edgelord protagonist that cries and whines all the time.
It takes the crown from FFII? 😁 Definitely has a lot of flaws that I can't argue with but I had a lot of fun with it.
@@RPGStory Final Fantasy II was impressive for 1988. This game and its graphics has aged like milk. It does nothing new and has has no ambitions whatsoever.
Thank you! How the fanboys are pretending to like this overlong boring Asuras Wrath is beyond me smh
It's an awful Final Fantasy game. Don't get me wrong, it's a great Devil May Cry, but just not a great JRPG.
The Icon Battles were spectacular, and Clive was great. I hope FFXVII returns to the classic JRPG fold. But that's just my taste 😉
Definitely different from what we've had before but I actually preferred it over 15 at the very least 😅
Definitely agree with this take. I kinda felt like it was a watered down version of DMC but with a stronger story.
still bad action game
Definitely created a big divide with gamers and fans especially those that are more RPG purist
Definitely not “bad” people are just haters.
@@austintaylor5683 Yeah I wasn't expecting this much of a divide haha
@@RPGStory yeah it’s because it wasn’t the game they wanted so it gets labeled as bad.
No. It's because it simply sucked lmaooo
Terrible game, didn't finish it, frame rate skipped like hell unless you were in battle. They used the crystal dynamics engine, that's the problem, same graphics problems as Forspoken.
I played in performance mode but don't know how much that helped as I played on launch before all the patches. I haven't seen too much of forspoken other than the technical issues yeah that engine doesn't seem so great.
FF16 uses "crystal tools" engine the same they used for FF14, not Luminous engine used by Forspoken. It is also not related to crystal dynamics, the studio that used to be owned by sqex.
@@imdyske Thanks for the clarification!
@@imdyske Minor details, all I know is both are crap engines. Both games heavilly criticised for their graphical performance and quality.
Performance was the least of my problems in this empty soulless mainline entry smh