Jocko Podcast 206 w/ Dick Thompson - The Stress Effect. Why Good Leaders Make Dumb Decisions
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0:00:00 - Opening
0:01:18 - Dick Thompson. SOG. The Stress Effect.
2:30:24 - Final Thoughts and take-aways.
2:33:43 - How to stay on THE PATH
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3:09:04 - Closing Gratitude
This man has become my favorite podcast guest of all time, not just from jockos podcast but literally ever. These 3 podcasts have been the best podcasts I've ever seen.
angry honey badger go back and watch “John Stryker Meyer” those were amazing also on jockos podcast
Legit
I could not agree more!
Dakota Meyer was good as well
Easily
I’ve spent ~ 9 hours of my life listening to these two men talk to each other and I need more
Michael Hardison nine hours well spent imho
More!!!!
If Sgt. Shelly is still alive. Must have on the podcast.
"Don't you touch that chicken.." "Don't you dare lick your finger" LMAO! I'm dying.
I was rolling 😂😂
This was when I realized Rambo was a toned down version of the real thing
Falling through the canopy movie scene Crazy, hard core, bad ass total Rambo shit.
This guys name indicates he has warriors viagra.
This series along with the ones featuring John Stryker Meyer have brought the Podcast to new heights!
I agree. I love hearing both guys talk about their experiences in Vietnam.
They are both extremely positive and upbeat! Of course they’ve had amazing careers as well.
We need more SOG vets, amazing content.
When Rambo became a toned down version of the real thing.
Col bill rieder episode as well. Vietnam pow shot down
There’s a few other SOG members still around, hope Jocko can get them on the podcast if they’re willing to talk about SOG.
Yes, like Nick Brokhausen and John Plaster
@@jeffreylc nick was on a podcast about a month ago, Mac and the cookie are still alive and so is castillo
And now he has. He releases them periodically or you can see all 14 so far on audible all hosted by Stryker.
@@jeffreylc check out the audible SOG CAST for those guys. Two of the best interviews.
This dude is sharp man. Very highly trained but also very intelligent. A Green Beret and a doctor. Goddamn hats off.
Imagine him being ur grandpa lol itd be awesome until you try to slide some shit past him when ur in ur teen would be the worst hell ever but itd be worth it in the end tho
These SOG guys' stories (as well as the SEAL team guys from that era respectively) are among some of the best war/history/leadership podcasts I've ever listen to. After listening to the John Stryker Myers episodes I crushed 3 SOG books in a week ....phenomenal phenomenal stuff. These guys are some hardcore men
Took me a couple of days, just couldn't stop. Legends.
Incredibly hardcore men, from a bygone era.
Jocko we've all been waiting for this one after the last 2 episodes
Brandon Valentin and still waiting for numbers 5&6....
@@RemedyAndRecourse fingers crossed. Also more SOG vets. Amazing content.
I’ve been watching these SOG episodes and wtf is up with the low views? These guys and what they have to share are pearls of wisdom and experience.
You know there is no bull shit in this man because he talks in present tense like he’s still there. The man lived it!
Man I love Dick Thompson podcasts.
I learned more about the Vietnam War listening to 1 SOG podcast episode than I ever did in my 4 years of Middle School and 4 Years of High School. Absolutely insane. I'm gonna get in touch with my favorite English teacher from high school and ask him what he'd think about showing his students the books by these brave SOG men
Me too brother
This podcast (or talks delivered by Dick himself) should be required for all officers attending the Infantry or Armor basic and advanced courses as well as NCOs attending basic or advanced NCO courses. As a Cold War era Infantry officer, I was lucky to have two battalion commanders and two brigade commanders who mirrored Dick's philosophy on how to build a winning unit that would be ready for combat. They were multi-tour Vietnam veterans who wore DSC's and/or Silver Stars with multi-oakleaf clustered Purple Hearts. In the case of my two different battalion commanders, they replaced losers who were Pentago warriors who wouldn't get out of their heated jeeps to get down and look at platoon defense. Shiny boots were too important to get muddy. They were worried about image and not substance, although their image wasn't very good as they were overweight doughboys who rarely did P.T .. The two warrior battalion commanders got down into fighting positions (even in the mud/water) and looked at fields of fire, range cards, positioning of Claymores and the whole deal. They asked hard questions of the soldiers and it became a point of pride to answer the questions correctly and get a slap on the back or an "atta-boy!". One of the commanders was known as "Cold Steel" and the spirit of the bayonet became the watchword. The bayonets that had been banded up in footlockers in the arms room were taken out, cleaned and issued. Bayonet training (which had long been abandoned by the army at that period) was trained, not because we necessarily planned on fighting with them, but because it got the troops fired up and built espirit. Machineguns became all important, and not just the heavy weapon that the low man had to carry. Each machinegun was issued to the top soldiers in the squad and it had to have a cool name....like "Meat Chopper" or "Sergeant Rock". These things and many others that Dick discussed were tools our winning/warrior commanders implemented. The whole tenor and mood of the battalion changed over a short time from losers to kick-a** winners. The Soviet Third Shock Army would have taken a 300-mile detour to avoid us. It was a great and memorable place to serve. We will be able to face the Chinese, Russians or whoever, if we can build this same approach by our current and future leaders....but we will fail if what is important is dwelling on the cultural sensitivity classes and obsession with wokeness that we see being emphasized by the current leadership.
Jocko and Echo doing their post podcast sales pitches is so good that’s it’s like a separate episode filled with awesome life lesson nuggets 🔥
It’s better than many other peoples podcasts 👊
Dr. Thompson is an absolute legend. Very inspirational and he leaves big shoes to fill for any current or aspiring operator in all of the service.
That must have really hurt, being judged by Meadows like that. It's always painful when your brothers appear to look down on you or think less of you. And it's a shame Thompson didn't get to be a part of the formation of Delta, but he had legitimate life obligations that he couldn't just up and set aside. He made the responsible choice.
Agreed
Delta didn't get good press in the beginning and I believe it was disbanded with some tasked moved to SEAL and Special Forces. I don't believe it was the training, but the technical limitations of hostage rescue overseas especially at the time of poor electronics of the time. As far as I'm concerned, even if he was free, it would have been a blemish on his "record" if he took the assignment.
@@orlock20 the main problem with early Delta, and the disaster that was Eagle Claw bringing its accompanying bad press, was too many cooks in the kitchen. Besides there being much resentment and resistance from other branches to the whole idea of Delta prior to the Iran Hostage Crisis (this money and prestige will be coming out of someone's budget, after all), with the rescue mission every branch pushed its way into being involved somehow to get a piece of the glory of rescuing the American hostages. There were other contributing causes to Delta's failures and bad press in the earlies, of course; but I think the lack of a unified command (and not having a powerful enough and committed patron sugar daddy to squash any early resistance) was the biggest problem.
Better to take the time for your kids and family, that is the best contribution you can make to society. Leadership in the family is so lacking in the US right now.
this podcast has had me messed up for a few days thinking about how dumb i am with low cognitive ability
just tell your brain to GET AFTER IT
That's not "dumb," it's a different strength. There has repeatedly been times I desperately needed people that thought very concretely and could focus on what was in front of them day after day. That is a powerful ability, especially when paired with discipline and conscientiousness. Leverage that and be proud of it.
It could be a false dichotomy too. There are more likely degrees on a spectrum. However I am not a pyschology PhD either. This guy is a beast.
The SOG guys have been my favorite topic yet, Jocko!
An honor to listen to all three podcasts. Great soldier and great stories and topics!
Jockos eating this stuff up,like he's listening to Thor himself.The man is impressive,Hackworth and this man could've put an end to that mess in nam lickity split.
The Iron man. That's just something I do as a senior citizen.
Jocko has the ability to genuinely speak/relate one-on-one with PhD/intellectuals and the break-the-glass-in-case-of-war types. Fascinating.
Need to have Dr. Thompson back on. Amazing content.
May god bless Dick Thompson! Love this man.
I can't stop listening to this guy. The American Armed Services is lucky to have had his talent and skills. Motivating
Am I the only one that puts on Jocko podcast when I want to fall asleep 🤣 and I mean that as a compliment. 😂 Best storyteller keeps me entertained until I zonk out🫡
Thoroughly enjoyed the first 2 podcasts with this legend 👍
Goat of his era
When Jocko and Dick were discussing leaders with low cognitive abilities, I’m reminded of when MacGruber blew up his team.
Rippin throat's ain't easy.
Someone call an ambulance!
CALL 911! CALL 911!!!
When they were talking about low cognitive ability people, was I the only one feeling like they were describing myself?
With respect, it was 204 and 205 Jocko.
I was afraid to say anything!
Fuckin a, I was hoping this one was as epic. This guy...is unbelievable n so humble.
All of these stories just leave me with my jaw on the floor. You hear these stories and halfway through, you just know the team is going to be over run and killed....but then you look at the man from that very story.... right there on the screen, 50 years later, and not only did he survive, but did many more missions just like this one. Amazing
@@oflionsquarrel2277 just incredible. These men's stories should be mandatory in school, it a shame that most Americans don't kno a thing about them. Real tough guys.
Absolutely. These men were involved in the most extreme combat I have ever heard of. Dr. "Dynamite" Thompson went into the frey with a borrowed weapon, minimal ammo, no radio, no gear, no team, and no skin on his hands, and then went back for more the next day. I have no words to describe that kind of bravery.
You can push yourself to the limit on anything. We as people are promoted to the level of incompetence. Rust out instead of burn out. I love that point of view. This podcast and the comments have opened my mind so much. I am very thankful to Jocko and equally thankful to his guests. The true heroes of this country. I myself was taken out of Marine Corp bootcamp. I've accomplished other things in my life. However I have always felt like I failed. That has haunted me through much of my life. It is a conscious anchor in my life that I base everything else from. It was around 20 years ago and I still can't shake it. I can't not think about it. Failing! The way I think now. I would have found a way to make it work. The medical condition has never gotten better but my desire has only gotten stronger. I have the utmost respect for these soldiers. These worriers that have done things very few people have done. I can say that my experience changed my life but listening to this podcast has humbled me. Further more it has encouraged me to keep going! To be the best that I am RIGHT NOW!
Dr. Thompson's book, The stress effect, probably could've help me save my military career. But the timing wasn't there. So it is my hope that other people can benefit from it.
This is the baddest guy I’ve ever heard speak. Holy hell
Henry is great. Guys like this are what we should all aspire to be as Americans
The smartest person I ever met was in college man was off the charts smart his ability to do so little and always get by was awe inspiring he eventually found a job that paid well not excessive but well and he worked about 20 hours a week to him that was successful
Thanks for yet another great SOGcast. Great storys from great warriors presented by a GOOD and humble leader.
I treasure this combat training mentality.
I can convert the same principles to my personal development
Utterly epic.....
Thank you gentlemen
Words can't describe this dude appropriately enough
This guy is loveable AND intimidating at the same time. I wish he was my grandpa.
This guy is amazing I found a mountain of value listening to the 3 interviews. Thank you.
MUCH RESPECT and appreciation to all of you who serve and have served. This dude is the real freakin deal. Amazing stories.
I was just writing this when you actually brought up the issue of emotional intelligence.
Emotional intelligence gives people the ability to use their intelligence in an effective way. This includes, empathy, insight, courage, self control, decisiveness, determination, adaptability, working with others, leadership, assertiveness, good judgement motivation, endurance, courage, cunning, lateral thinking, original thinking, separating emotions, problem solving, inspiration and accepting responsibility. It can also involve some less impressive skills which can be manipulating other people, effective lying, greed, fear and narcissism for example.
As a leader your ability to inspire others is not a matter of being brilliant. It is more in understanding others. Some of these traits can be innate in some people. Rather than something that is learned.
Another term could be practical intelligence. Applying cognitive intelligence to real world problems.
Your mantra for taking responsibility can be more of an emotional intelligence issue. You do not need to be a genius to apply this skill. But this skill can help you to recognise faults and find finding better solutions. Hopefully without getting emotional. Overcoming your pride and admitting you have faults. And separating your faults to the mistakes of others. Emotional intelligence allows you to overcome problems more effectively.
Some brilliant people are very lacking in social and personal skills. They may not be effective leaders but can be harnessed by effective leaders.
Emotional intelligence could be termed effective intelligence. Many brilliant people are not effective leaders.
There may be another term for this. You could say it is practical intelligence. It means using cognitive intelligence more effectively to achieve goals.
You do not need to be a genius to lead. You can use the talents of others to overcome complex situation. Leaders work with others can be more effective by harnessing the skills of others.
Emotional intelligence can include natural traits. It is something that many people can not learn or apply it.
People have varying degrees of managing there own feelings and separating their personal aims from others. This includes insight. Some people are also intelligent but may not be able to apply themselves to high stress situations. Some highly intelligent people are just not effective in working with people. Some people have a more natural ability to work with others and lead. In this situation they can use other peoples skills to help making decisions and achieving goals.
So intelligence does have its uses but their are other skills that can make smart people much more effective. effective. While some brilliant people do not work effectively with others.
Personality traits can greatly impede even the most intelligent people. Especially when smart people can not understand the faults in their own personalities.
I believe Dick is correct....Its not than one learns to get better at cognitive ability, rather, new circumstances expose the individuals to utilize this ability was not used (or seen in them) before....so it gives the false appearance they are learning....now expressing their abilities that were always there in new and diverse situations.
I will NEVER Forget the 7 Cluster bomblets which did not explode within his RON perimeter! GOD is Good!
" I always like to hear about the old timers, never missed a chance to do so"
I'M STILL READING HIS BOOK A YEAR LATER! PRICELESS!
Mr. Thompson getting that challenge coin in the unit before challenge coins were a thing. Love the podcast Jocko and Echo, working through all of the podcasts on the channel. I work at a desk 9 hours a night as a private security guard, I have time for 2 maybe 3 whole episodes some nights. Keep em' comin.👍
I love these podcasts. The inspiration and appreciation felt is hard to quantify and put into words. Thank you for your continued service.
Lack of interest in war is something difficult to relate to because it has been my greatest interest my whole life. Very interesting and golden information to hear especially since the Vietnam war is in my top favorite conflicts in terms of the warfare. To hear first hand the special ops aspect of it is amazing.
If your early your on time
If your on time your late
If your late your screwed
Jocko 2020!!!
Watched this and loved it - all 3 episodes with this hero!
Love all the Vietnam Vet episodes. It’s great to be able to get their stories while we still can.
Wish Jocko had this platform when we had more of the WW2 ones around.
By far the best pod cast I've Iver herd. What an inspiration. Thank you for this.
I want to be Sergeant Shelly.
Get after it!
Thank you Jocko! This bloke is the real deal! Absolutely blew my mind! Wow! Just WOW. Changed my whole outlook on life!
These podcasts are fantastic! Completely enthralling. Any chance of getting Demo Dick Marcinko on?
Very interesting , an old friend of mine Jack Beech was in MACV SOG .
amazing Elites!! Thanks for everything.
This dude is Awesome!! Glad he is on our side. We really need leaders like him now!
Can't wait to listen to this
Been waiting on pins and needles for this .
I REALLY enjoy listening to Mr Thompson. What a great interview and impressive person! Thank you so much for doing these types of interviews. I find it fascinating to hear the stories and learn from the experiences of our great military members. Though I haven't served, I do come from a military family and I have the deepest respect for all of you! PLEASE keep doing more of these Jocko!!
Oh dude!!!! I've been waiting for this one!!!!
Just incredible - loved all three episodes and all I can say is thank you, thank you for your service, thank you for sharing your story, and thank you for the ongoing leadership you provide
Thank you for your service and welcome home.
Phenomenal set of podcasts in a podcast series that just about every one is great.
Chapeau (hats off) to doctor Thompson. And to Don Jocko and his sidekick - the sweet and softer Eco Charles. Your podcast is a life saver to this retired police officer, a good daily obsession.
Learned so much from this warrior. Gave me perspective on my own life and service. Thank you
My God. This was astounding. No words can do justice to the enormity of this interview.
Thanks guys👊🇨🇦
I like how Jocko doesn’t interrupt or make assumptions in this whole series.
This guy and S.O.G. guys in general literally fit the description of Rambo when the Colonel described Rambo to the Sheriff.
I think every sog member who went on a mission needs a damn Medal of Honor!
A great man. Wonderful podcast.
Great podcast! Listening in the hospital with pneumonia due to covid. You encourage me to fight this!
What a way to end the Terminator (Dick Thompson) trilogy.
This has completely shifted my thinking in a lot of key areas that I hadn’t realized.
that was a great one ty! I hope that there's an audio book also 🙏
I just figured out I have low cognitive ability.....😯
Don’t know what the opinion is of Rob O’Neill in the Teams is but would love to hear him talking to Jocko and echo ?
BEST SERIES EVER! EVER! MOVIE NEEDS TO BE MADE.
Outstanding
To answer your question Echo/Jocko, I AM from Nebraska And YES, the fact that Jocko White Tea is Certified Organic is a must have in my book. That stuff is LEGIT!
This BAMFs story is just purely insane! What a man
Gonna get the book!
This was such a great series. Holy shit.
Excellent
Thanks jock
i remember jocko, he's a good guy. i'll follow him or he i. we're all good.
who the hell always clicks the thumbs down icon.....if you dont like it,go to another podcast.Leave the negativity at the door!
Echo has the best gig
Kick ass podcast!!!!!!
Back for a third time... YESSSSSSSS
2:18:45. . . I know a guy who decided to do an Ironman when he turned 51. He had two problems: He hadn't learned how to swim, and he hadn't ridden a bicycle since age 13 when he had a paper route as a kid. . . . He still does triathlons and marathons to this day. He is a professional sales coach; and a phenomenal one at that. His name is Jack Daly; and he's worth looking into.
This is where the last Rambo movie went wrong. It should have had him doing IM triathlons!
MG Henry Emerson , The Gunfighter, was fun to work for.