Here are the timestamps. Please check out our sponsors to support this podcast. 0:00 - Introduction & sponsor mentions: - Linode: linode.com/lex to get $100 free credit - Indeed: indeed.com/lex to get $75 credit - SimpliSafe: simplisafe.com/lex and use code LEX to get a free security camera - Ground News: ground.news/lex 3:10 - The beauty and tragedy of war 8:44 - Soviet Union in World War II 15:03 - What makes a just war? 28:39 - Jordan Peterson 31:51 - Fear of death 36:02 - Autonomous weapons systems 47:37 - What makes a great leader? 50:24 - Elon Musk - a leadership case study 1:04:12 - Steve Jobs - a leadership case study 1:14:24 - Sundar Pichai - a leadership case study 1:21:24 - Young Jamie 1:25:32 - Discipline 1:28:24 - A day in the life of Jocko 1:34:39 - Jiu Jitsu 1:50:27 - Books
@@dranreb1118 I'd say he asked too thought out long questions. It was always about to get to the point of the question then it never did. Either way. Epic podcast.
Bro, Lex didn't make eye contact the entire podcast and Jocko was dead eyeing him. I literally thought that Jocko suspected some Russian influence shit about Lex and Jocko was giving him the look like "We still kill commies around here, let me hear you praise Puttin again" Better Dead Than Red. Lex is super suspect considering how much he admires the dictator Putin. Just joking but not really...
@@vanjam412 You're braindead. Lex asked things in a way that didn't allow him to expand much. And why should he anyway? Jocko is not here to entertain you, he's in there to reply to what he's been asked about, and he did everytime.
@@vanjam412 abstraction is not a virtue. The person who judges another person's way of thought, labeling them as "meatheads" is precisely the kind of person who believes they think deeply, but in reality, have quite a shallow intellect.
Lex came at Jocko in a way 95% wouldn’t just because he’s Jocko. Great minds here. Great interview, really shows the humbleness of this beast of a man.
It's kinda strange seeing Jocko in color. I thought you HAD to look at him in black & white, kind of like how you have to look at a solar eclipse through a filter to avoid eye damage
My dad was a lieutenant in Vietnam. He was only interested in getting his troops home safely. They were Texas boys. He actually got them home safely and they showed up to his funeral in 2005. The funniest story was everyone in the squad having to use Campho phenique -a menthol salve-on their balls to combat jock itch from wading into brackish water. Eventually he came to laugh about it. War is hell. But I think my dad was a good leader. His troops loved him. Hoorah!
Having Jocko on your channel on the 4th of July is America as fuck! His book Extreme Ownership is a must read for anyone that wishes to be a leader or wants to improve their capability as a leader!
The US army would be unable to work as intended if most of the soldiers had a conscience. Because those that do get imprisoned. See Bradley alias Chelsea Manning.
For me, Jocko's best podcasts are when he's read something historical and has a bunch of quotes from it. I reckon if you did that together it would be a quality podcast.
@@jensoh 31 is the one I'm listening to now, about the My Lai massacre, heavy stuff. 133 is about Unit 731. 60 is Nanking. The jocko unravelling podcast is worth a listen as well, goes quite deep into the Iraq war. They are very dark, but reminders of what people are capable of. They are the most gruesome that come to mind but there's plenty of others if you're willing to scroll
Demonstrated are the two different mindsets of both a patient scientist who analyzes and explains data all day, juxtaposed with a commando whose job it is to capture a building and eliminate insurgents as quickly as possible. Both personalities are needed in this world. Both have their roles.
Supposed a gradient that begins with awareness, passes through family, tribe, Nation, State, larger groups till world conscience, Solar System inhabitant, Milky way, Local Cluster... And so on, and reversing it till microscopic or Nano, quantum, an axion or Hilbert Space, the universal wave function and all goes around... That's because we are always "in the middle" Are our enzymes loyal or patriotic to us? Mitochondrial DNA feels good to belong? When a cell turns into the wrong side, as in cancer, v. g., could you say that the cell was turned, as counterintelligence concept? 🤔 All these should be capital words? Are they? Loyalty or belonging goes all the way from one scale to the next, passing through Human Scale, augmented and, in so, reducing into the basics components... Is there a finis terrae or we can think as Magellan and mimic an universal Ouroboros? Where lies patriotism? Just ideas...
The opening to this podcast, your love for being an American is beautiful and deeply moving. I love you, Lex. Don't stop spreading that love and positivity.
Yes we know. When he left home his father became the man of the house. When he was born the doctor said it's a man and every other comment in all of jockos comment sections
Jocko is one of the best leadership philosophers of our time. He's seen and been a leader from every angle, every corner and every perspective. This man should be teaching CEOs in a high-level leadership/management institution.
This discussion serves up a candid, honest delivery from both of these men. Lex wants someone to worry with him and jocko simply executes solutions. Wondering if jocko ever just kicks back
Winning through losing is more valuable then winning. And when there's ego involved, challenge that ego and give it a chance to be humbled and shifted. Challenge being the main source of happiness. Creating the best version of yourself. So challenge yourself, and love to lose knowing you're doing something difficult and that is a win. That's what I learned among other things on this episode. I thought this was a beautiful discussion. And Jiu Jitsu is so powerful with changing perception. Makes me wanna get back on the mat.
I've watched a lot of Jocko and I've never seen him seem so serious and tense. It's as if Lex's line of questioning made him go somewhere that he doesn't normally.
@@francorodriguez8252 100% agree with you on that. Lex was trying so hard to ask a question in the most absurd way possible, it was borderline cringeworthy.
I think he made him uncomfortable right away with all those questions about the morality of war at the beginning. Obviously Jocko is going to understand and read history and war from a completely different angle. They're not talking about the same thing.
So accurate! When Lex talks about the whole relaxing thing, it's a hard point to articulate and he gets it across. And then Jocko goes "I tell people to relax harder", that was perfect!
There are a number of questions the Jocko truly isn't understanding, not how to answer the question, but he isn't understanding even what the question is.
Lex isn’t trying to be complicated. That’s how he is. He lives in his head so it’s naturally difficult for him to achieve the same level of clarity and simplicity that Jocko speaks with.
Not entirely sure that “trying to be complicated” is what he’s doing, it just seems to be his mode of thinking & delivery style. Joko is a mature man of action with a brain-Lex, on the other hand, is a very intelligent & sensitive guy who is slightly dysfunctional & a lot younger who isn't.
Jocko is a great example of CONTROLLED ego. Lex keeps coming at him with philosophical open ended questions and Jocko responds like a hammer driving large nails in two taps. Both guys just think on a completely different level and that was why Lex hardly at all followed up on Jocko's answers. It was weird....I was waiting for responses. Jocko is just full on military war machine geared and Lex, bless his heart was trying to assimilate. Way to go guys, entertaining.
The best part about lex podcast is the vulnerability to express humility. I think we all feel like we’re not doing our best always. But it’s that pursuit that makes things enjoyable.
Its not always what is being said, but rather how it is said. recently had a falling out with my partner, and Jocko's way of talking made me feel so assured that I was going to be alright. thank you lex for having such a great guest on
One of my favorites yet. Lex, your questions have been on point, great progress. Jocko is like an iceberg, you managed to shed light on what lies beneath the surface.
Lex, thank you for a fantastic podcast. I’ve always been a fan of Rogan and all you IDW guys. But I’ve always felt like I can’t be as good as some of these guys because I’m introverted, or not as smart, or I’ve made big mistakes that I know these guys have made, but haven’t seen them making. As the son of an immigrant, your 99% perfect English and your self admitted slight awkwardness draws me in because I feel a lot like you. And seeing you interview people like Jocko, it makes me feel like with my personality, I DO have something to offer the world. Anyway, I don’t know if this makes any sense, but I’m glad I found your channel Lex. I think you’re awesome. Thank you.
This makes perfect sense. We need all personalities to add value to our world. I hope you do something you love, and through your love for it, value bleeds to the rest of us.
I had a heart attack looking at it. You can see Jocko in a Legionnaire helmet thousands of years ago. A natural warrior and leader. Carved from granite.
You’re not afraid of having the hard conversations- they are necessary and you do it gracefully. Thank you for that beautiful tribute to our country 🇺🇸
Are you afraid of dying? Ive heard this question a handful of times on a handful of episodes. THATS a hard question nobody wants to ask, and is necessary? Nobody asks it cuz its not moral and everybody should obviously not want to talk about their death, or how they feel about it. He knows it too, thats why he gets into his 'shy shell' when he asks. Its weird questions. Plus we all know and dont care to know the answers. Its either a "yes", and, well, duh...or "no", and your just a tough guy, who fears to show his fears. Because NO ONE, is not worried about dying and leaving loved ones behind. NO ONE! These interviews are like a 4 year old talking to fully mentally developed intelligent professional KIND people who not once speak their mind about these immature weird questions (not all questions). JRE interview....first question..."are you afraid of dying.....maybe, today?" Its unreal, embarrassing, and makes you want to spit your drink out, all at the same time. I hope one of these times someone speaks their mind about, "What kind of question is this". Put some russian cartoons on kid and grab ya sippy cup.
The first three minutes of this one are the most powerful. So good to see a grateful immigrant. Welcome, Lex. You are the type of New American my father and uncle fought and bled for in wars past.
All of this felt like a long Turing test... At the beginning would have being perfectly ok if Lex started showing Grid collages of digital pictures and ask Jocko. "Point at all the fire hydrants"
Lex conveys the pain of the Soviet experience in WWII like few I’ve seen. It’s clear how deep a wound was left by that immense suffering. We don’t often see that side of the conflict in the West. It was horrific.
it happens when you're a kid growing up in europe your parents and grandparents explain over and over their hardships and experiences with the war and post war which makes it hard on you feeling their pain
A fascinating range of topics covered here, in depth and in very very useful ways. Jocko is as badass intellectually as he would be on the mat. Well done, Lex, for attracting such supreme guests and for wisely knowing how to get the best and all the use out of them that you do.
This has to be one of Lex’s best interviews. I feel like I would have just gotten sorry for myself when Jocko answered the questions like he did. However Lex knew this was going to happen, prepared for it and perfectly blended his style and Jocko’s.
The first three minutes of this video...give me hope in humanity and this country. Lex, I respect and admire you from afar...and it's so inspiring to hear your words, behind all that Russian "stoicism"!
@@andreasauke5724 Exactly. After thousands of years of human civilization, I challenge anyone to say "something new" and completely "unheard of" in 2021. What a silly argument. As you said, it's the example that people like him set, day by day, that makes all the difference in the world.
Jocko is so much different than many other folks you hear from on podcasts. 1.) He’s a great listener. Not sure I heard him interrupt or interject, at least not that stood out. 2.) His answers are almost always so simple and direct. Most of the time the answer is very simple, but for some reason we tend to want a more complex breakdown of something.
In my opinion, this interview is a perfect example to why Lex is among the top interviewers in the world. His questions are so specific yet overlooked and never asked from other interviewers. The leadership case study was so interesting, I had to listen to it on loop a few times! Thank you @Lex Fridman
Lex saying how self critical he is to the point he hates everything he has done is so relatable. I feel confident in the things I do but looking back I often find it like I could've done this or said this to be better and it doesn't paralyze me but it makes me reflect so hard
I feel like Lex is more tense in this interview, and confrontational stance. Can’t blame him, but Jocko’s a genuine sweetheart and has a lot more wisdom to share with us. Thank you :)
So love my Seals!! Nice to be introduced to Jocko. Thanks Lex. Just ordered his book Extreme Ownership: How U.S. Navy SEALs Lead and Win. My favorite for decades has been Leadership Secrets of the Rogue Warrior: A Commando's Guide to Success by Richard Marcinko . I so adore the Warrior side of you, Lex. I was an Army Military Policewoman, SGT, and lived by Marcinko's 10 Commandments as a blueprint for being a good leader. Now I am looking forward to Jocko's wisdom...nice Nuggett
Marcinko was a man that could perhaps be the most influential SEAL of all time. His legacy inspired already great warriors to step it up a notch. Only group of warriors close to the SEALS are the SAS, in fact the are so similar they do joint operations. SAS are animals. I unfortunately have to say in my experience the are tiny bit better than SEALS they are taught to have no restraint whereas the SEALS are often having to fight with ridiculous rules, SAS does not, they are like the Israelis. No rules in war, none.
i've watched so many interviews from you lex... and kudos for sticking in here LMAO i've never watched an interviewer give such open ended questions to where the person being interviewed just didn't want to elaborate LOL so brutal at times, like bro he's throwing u a bone talk
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3:10 - The beauty and tragedy of war
8:44 - Soviet Union in World War II
15:03 - What makes a just war?
28:39 - Jordan Peterson
31:51 - Fear of death
36:02 - Autonomous weapons systems
47:37 - What makes a great leader?
50:24 - Elon Musk - a leadership case study
1:04:12 - Steve Jobs - a leadership case study
1:14:24 - Sundar Pichai - a leadership case study
1:21:24 - Young Jamie
1:25:32 - Discipline
1:28:24 - A day in the life of Jocko
1:34:39 - Jiu Jitsu
1:50:27 - Books
Hey Lex who wins if you and Jocko roll? Are you tapping first or is he? 🥊👍great podcasts! Love your content with Bret
Lex, thanks for the great guests. It would be fantastic to see Peter Thiel on one of your upcoming episodes.
@jazz biz the length of comment has an inverse relationship with dick & brain size.
I'd like to see Jocko the next expendables movie.
@lexfriedman
Excellent choice in guest Lex - and excellent questions. So thoughtful and pointed. Great (GREAT) job!
It's like the terminator from the first movie gets interviewed by the terminator from the second.
haha
Underrated observation
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Perfect
Perfect description!
Lex: Spends 3 minutes constructing a well thought out, open ended and philosophical question
Jocko: Yes
Lmao
Willink puts more focus on making a mean face than constructing a well thought out response:)
Jocko: Good
@@dranreb1118 I'd say he asked too thought out long questions. It was always about to get to the point of the question then it never did.
Either way. Epic podcast.
@@craiggrocott7559 lol
This is now the Jocko Willink Podcast.
😂
I heard it in his voice
This is Jocko Podcast number 197. With Lex Fridman and me, Jocko Willink.
Good Evening Lex.
🤣🤣
Get some
Title should be: Lex Fridman interviews Lex Fridman, Jocko tactically observes.
🤣🤣🤣 Underrated comment
Omg u apsolute unit 🤣
🤣that's so funny!🤣Lex is to Jocko .. what Chris Kitan is to Dwayne Johnson..🤣❤️😎
@@jensbang5923 What about the convo Jocko had with Andrew Huberman, what would this one be titled?
❤😂
Lex: "How's the old man doin?"
Jocko: "You talkin to me?"
I fucking died
Someone better write that up for a movie. That was great.
So almost did him
Now Lex has a near death experience
What minutes is that?🤔😳😲🤣
@@syderwarp 1:33:05
When Jocko doesn't hit the gym, the equipment gets all the rest it can
Haha good one dude
Bro, Lex didn't make eye contact the entire podcast and Jocko was dead eyeing him.
I literally thought that Jocko suspected some Russian influence shit about Lex and Jocko was giving him the look like "We still kill commies around here, let me hear you praise Puttin again"
Better Dead Than Red.
Lex is super suspect considering how much he admires the dictator Putin.
Just joking but not really...
haha nice
Hahahaha
Gym equipment rests because gym equipment is WEAK!!
ROFL.
I love how direct Lex's questions are and how blunt Jocko's answers are
With a guy like Jocko you can be direct because he will never take itpersonal. Guys like Jocko are great people and even better mentors.
Lex asks questions like he wants an AI to understand humanity.
He's too much of a meat head to have a profound thought or philosophical conversation. You can tell it's uncomfortable for him to think abstractly
@@vanjam412 You're braindead. Lex asked things in a way that didn't allow him to expand much. And why should he anyway? Jocko is not here to entertain you, he's in there to reply to what he's been asked about, and he did everytime.
@@vanjam412 abstraction is not a virtue. The person who judges another person's way of thought, labeling them as "meatheads" is precisely the kind of person who believes they think deeply, but in reality, have quite a shallow intellect.
I wish to see Lex, wearing a full adidas tracksuit to the interview.
Blyat
Squatting the whole time
He just did, with Michael Malice lmao
His accent isn't strong enough to pull that off 😅
Brilliant
It’s actually amazing how little patience Jocko has for Lex’s poetic sentimentality 😂
dude he seemed so over it with all the long questions haha
maybe he sees through the bullshit.. an interviewer should shut the fuck up and listen...
His brain is really slow so he has a lot of trouble to process all the data.
Lex came at Jocko in a way 95% wouldn’t just because he’s Jocko. Great minds here. Great interview, really shows the humbleness of this beast of a man.
Lex is a robot so he doesn't have the same instincts to protect his self like a human being does.
@@caseyanderson7600 lol
Lex: are you afraid of death?
Jocks: no.
Death: fuck…
Lex should invite death to the podcast and ask if it's afraid of Jocko.
@@alikayseri2270 "i fear no man, but.. that thing.."
🤣😂 - Mike! This is hilarious
@Special Ed why is that so?
@@alikayseri2270 😂
Jocko caught every Pokemon in Pokemon Go using a landline phone.
These comments just keep getting better and better. Well done, nazi lobster.
😅 this 1 got me
How did you do this
'Private Pikachu. report your position!'
Legend says he fist fighted Mewtwo in his back yard while mowing the lawn.
It's kinda strange seeing Jocko in color. I thought you HAD to look at him in black & white, kind of like how you have to look at a solar eclipse through a filter to avoid eye damage
Underrated comment 😆
Jocko is like a sin city caracther
Fucking brilliant … but true!
Underrated and brilliant
My god, did you not use a filter?
Lex: Do you...
Jocko: No.
Haha!
My dad was a lieutenant in Vietnam. He was only interested in getting his troops home safely. They were Texas boys. He actually got them home safely and they showed up to his funeral in 2005. The funniest story was everyone in the squad having to use Campho phenique -a menthol salve-on their balls to combat jock itch from wading into brackish water. Eventually he came to laugh about it. War is hell. But I think my dad was a good leader. His troops loved him. Hoorah!
Hoorah!
Deez nutz
Having Jocko on your channel on the 4th of July is America as fuck! His book Extreme Ownership is a must read for anyone that wishes to be a leader or wants to improve their capability as a leader!
I just want to be chill and live my best life ... excess testosterone has limited benefits in the long run
@GOPareTerrorists lol trump is still in your head. still havent found a new scapegoat? kek
" Jocko can build a snowman out of rain "
oh my
I hope Jocko becomes the next Chuck Norris running gag
jocko builds raindrops out grains of sand
😅😂
Not a snowman, an iceman when the rain freezes in terror as Jocko glances at it.
Beautiful intro there about America mate. Much respect, from Australia.
Gday cobba
respect from the US. Im glad to have Lex as an American
Australia is a racist country. I see what you are doing to people of color, especially black people and East-Asians and Indians
@@Predestinated1 how can a country be racist u muppet..theirs racists everywhere.
@@Predestinated1 what do you think they're doing? It's one of the most multicultural countries on earth.
Jocko's communication, joice of words, and grasp of big picture forces is other worldly. Must certainly a trustable warrior-leader.
Jantastic Jomment.
Lex is the perfect interviewer for Jocko. I respect these two men a lot.
wrong
The clash of MAN and MACHINE.
Yeah, Lex is a cool dude, and Jocko is an absolute machine.
Haha
Let's see if lex can implement an ai system into jocko
I'd like a format where I can see Jocko's face when some of these questions are being asked.
I respect Lex so much for telling Jocko that his lack of worry worries him. That takes a lot of gall to be so blunt.
The US army would be unable to work as intended if most of the soldiers had a conscience. Because those that do get imprisoned. See Bradley alias Chelsea Manning.
Jocko is a soldier, soldiers don't get worried, they get war.
@@HansBaier He was a part of the Navy
@Chirag Mehta Tell me a single US war in the last 70 years that was necessary for that.
For me, Jocko's best podcasts are when he's read something historical and has a bunch of quotes from it. I reckon if you did that together it would be a quality podcast.
would you be willing to recommend some episodes? ps nice blastoise
@@jensoh 31 is the one I'm listening to now, about the My Lai massacre, heavy stuff. 133 is about Unit 731. 60 is Nanking. The jocko unravelling podcast is worth a listen as well, goes quite deep into the Iraq war.
They are very dark, but reminders of what people are capable of. They are the most gruesome that come to mind but there's plenty of others if you're willing to scroll
This shows how streamlined and practical Jocko is and how depth can impede success.
Demonstrated are the two different mindsets of both a patient scientist who analyzes and explains data all day, juxtaposed with a commando whose job it is to capture a building and eliminate insurgents as quickly as possible. Both personalities are needed in this world. Both have their roles.
@John Sampson ?
@John Sampson ?
Yes.
Well said.
Except Jockos job as a SEAL commander was to organize and plan said missions through in depth data analysis lol
Jocko makes me want to drink orange juice after brushing my teeth, and like it.
How's that orange juice after brushing your teeth?
Good.
@@yew2oob954
Sorry, I'll be staying at weenie hut jr.'s this time around....
@@yew2oob954 it’s tough
I read the last part in his voice
Supposed a gradient that begins with awareness, passes through family, tribe, Nation, State, larger groups till world conscience, Solar System inhabitant, Milky way, Local Cluster... And so on, and reversing it till microscopic or Nano, quantum, an axion or Hilbert Space, the universal wave function and all goes around... That's because we are always "in the middle" Are our enzymes loyal or patriotic to us? Mitochondrial DNA feels good to belong? When a cell turns into the wrong side, as in cancer, v. g., could you say that the cell was turned, as counterintelligence concept? 🤔 All these should be capital words? Are they? Loyalty or belonging goes all the way from one scale to the next, passing through Human Scale, augmented and, in so, reducing into the basics components...
Is there a finis terrae or we can think as Magellan and mimic an universal Ouroboros? Where lies patriotism? Just ideas...
Tough Interview but you handled it great lex
Lex is such an inspiration. His full commitment to being authentically himself warms my heart.
The opening to this podcast, your love for being an American is beautiful and deeply moving. I love you, Lex. Don't stop spreading that love and positivity.
This is a great 4th of July
One of the most American pods you can drop on the 4th! I think we can all agree these men are both stand up examples of being great Americans 🇺🇸
Why do you guys speak English?
@@derekladyga1716 so England invented your Country? Cool
When Jacko turned 18, he gave his father the talk.
Hahaha gonna steal this
Yes we know. When he left home his father became the man of the house. When he was born the doctor said it's a man and every other comment in all of jockos comment sections
@@arthurmorgan4460 Thanks for letting us know you do!! I was worried you weren't, but you proved my fears were baseless.
@@arthurmorgan4460 well this is the first time I've heard Jocko. So I'm glad to have all these comments you're gate-keeping for.
Lol
Perfect guest for Independence Day! Well done sir.
"I was born a Russian. I will die as an American."
Wow. Respect.
That’s what a true Russian spy would say.
@@mansoorafridi2636 🤣
He is "proud" ga'y that's the reason he runaway from Russia
@@mansoorafridi2636 Where did this spy meme come about?
@@mansoorafridi2636 y spy if satellite in sky. Hi;)
Jocko's sense of humor is military, hits you when you least expect it 🤣 that's pretty dope.
Another powerful conversation. Thank you Lex.
I love the duality of this conversation.
Lex is a type of guy who launches a rocket from his mech-robot at enemy while saying: "what a beautiful way to die."
Lol, I can see and hear that vividly in my minds eye.
😅😅😅
@Danny Carvajal ha kinda true
Well, battle-mech Lex is not wrong.
😆
They say Jesus walked on water;
but Jocko swims on land.
hahaha
OMG!!! LOL
Jocko is one of the best leadership philosophers of our time. He's seen and been a leader from every angle, every corner and every perspective. This man should be teaching CEOs in a high-level leadership/management institution.
That's literally what his company, Echelon Font, does.
"What do you think about humanity being on a path to self-destruction?"
"Good."
lol
Roger that.
Hahahah 🤣🤣
i believe it's ahead of schedule. good job! hedonisticly helping hell humanity.
I just saw this and freaked out that my favorite Podcaster is with my second favorite Podcaster and idk which is which
@@LANCEtheBOIL when big dick energy meets big brain energy
Watching fireworks and listening to Jocko and Lex. America!!!!! 🇺🇸
*firm handshake*
@@funk-n-groovin6779 hell yea brother. I’m also in Texas 👌
You also speak English lol
Wow, what an interview! You both opened a many of emotional doors. It will take a lifetime to learn all the human inspiration received.
this guy is definition of a badass.. nothing but respect for this hero
This discussion serves up a candid, honest delivery from both of these men. Lex wants someone to worry with him and jocko simply executes solutions. Wondering if jocko ever just kicks back
That's a good observation!
Your answer is “ Negative”
No.
Yup, two men at opposite ends of the neuroticism scale.
@@csqr there you go then
Couldn't have chosen a better guest for Independence day 🥰🥰🥰🇺🇲
Lex is the type of guy to send a get well card to an enemy he has killed.
or a love poem.
u r blind or deluded
20:19 That eye contact and silence says it all
Winning through losing is more valuable then winning. And when there's ego involved, challenge that ego and give it a chance to be humbled and shifted. Challenge being the main source of happiness. Creating the best version of yourself. So challenge yourself, and love to lose knowing you're doing something difficult and that is a win. That's what I learned among other things on this episode. I thought this was a beautiful discussion. And Jiu Jitsu is so powerful with changing perception. Makes me wanna get back on the mat.
I've watched a lot of Jocko and I've never seen him seem so serious and tense. It's as if Lex's line of questioning made him go somewhere that he doesn't normally.
I think he was annoyed at his intellectual pretensiousness.
He had shitty questions. And they were long winded. As if they were deep and toughtful
He know lex is Russian intelligence
@@francorodriguez8252 100% agree with you on that. Lex was trying so hard to ask a question in the most absurd way possible, it was borderline cringeworthy.
I think he made him uncomfortable right away with all those questions about the morality of war at the beginning. Obviously Jocko is going to understand and read history and war from a completely different angle. They're not talking about the same thing.
Interrogations make people serious and tense
Lex trying to be complicated is overshadowed by Jocko's simple sophistication.
So accurate! When Lex talks about the whole relaxing thing, it's a hard point to articulate and he gets it across. And then Jocko goes "I tell people to relax harder", that was perfect!
There are a number of questions the Jocko truly isn't understanding, not how to answer the question, but he isn't understanding even what the question is.
It was nice to see indeed.
Lex isn’t trying to be complicated. That’s how he is. He lives in his head so it’s naturally difficult for him to achieve the same level of clarity and simplicity that Jocko speaks with.
Not entirely sure that “trying to be complicated” is what he’s doing, it just seems to be his mode of thinking & delivery style.
Joko is a mature man of action with a brain-Lex, on the other hand, is a very intelligent & sensitive guy who is slightly dysfunctional & a lot younger who isn't.
Jocko to Lex: “Look at me. I’m the host now.”
Jocko is a great example of CONTROLLED ego. Lex keeps coming at him with philosophical open ended questions and Jocko responds like a hammer driving large nails in two taps. Both guys just think on a completely different level and that was why Lex hardly at all followed up on Jocko's answers. It was weird....I was waiting for responses. Jocko is just full on military war machine geared and Lex, bless his heart was trying to assimilate. Way to go guys, entertaining.
The best part about lex podcast is the vulnerability to express humility. I think we all feel like we’re not doing our best always. But it’s that pursuit that makes things enjoyable.
Its not always what is being said, but rather how it is said. recently had a falling out with my partner, and Jocko's way of talking made me feel so assured that I was going to be alright. thank you lex for having such a great guest on
Falling out with your partner? GOOD.
This podcast is officially better than the Joe Rogan experience.
Fight me
Has been for a long time now
It’s alright. Rogan’s stuff has gone downhill lately.
...always has been...
Joe agrees
Definitely true since Joe went to Spotify. The decline really set in at that point.
One of my favorites yet. Lex, your questions have been on point, great progress. Jocko is like an iceberg, you managed to shed light on what lies beneath the surface.
Love Jocko and all of his audiobooks. Thank you for this interview Lex🙏💫
Lex, thank you for a fantastic podcast. I’ve always been a fan of Rogan and all you IDW guys. But I’ve always felt like I can’t be as good as some of these guys because I’m introverted, or not as smart, or I’ve made big mistakes that I know these guys have made, but haven’t seen them making. As the son of an immigrant, your 99% perfect English and your self admitted slight awkwardness draws me in because I feel a lot like you. And seeing you interview people like Jocko, it makes me feel like with my personality, I DO have something to offer the world. Anyway, I don’t know if this makes any sense, but I’m glad I found your channel Lex. I think you’re awesome. Thank you.
This makes perfect sense. We need all personalities to add value to our world. I hope you do something you love, and through your love for it, value bleeds to the rest of us.
I’ve been listening to Jocko for so long I almost know what he’s going to say
Props to Lex for not pissing himself when receiving the jocko death stare 18:36
I had a heart attack looking at it. You can see Jocko in a Legionnaire helmet thousands of years ago. A natural warrior and leader. Carved from granite.
hard to piss one self when one avoids eye contact to that extent.
@John Sampson Considering the fact that English is Lex’s second language, I’d say he’s pretty well spoken lol
You’re not afraid of having the hard conversations- they are necessary and you do it gracefully. Thank you for that beautiful tribute to our country 🇺🇸
Are you afraid of dying? Ive heard this question a handful of times on a handful of episodes. THATS a hard question nobody wants to ask, and is necessary? Nobody asks it cuz its not moral and everybody should obviously not want to talk about their death, or how they feel about it. He knows it too, thats why he gets into his 'shy shell' when he asks. Its weird questions. Plus we all know and dont care to know the answers. Its either a "yes", and, well, duh...or "no", and your just a tough guy, who fears to show his fears. Because NO ONE, is not worried about dying and leaving loved ones behind. NO ONE! These interviews are like a 4 year old talking to fully mentally developed intelligent professional KIND people who not once speak their mind about these immature weird questions (not all questions). JRE interview....first question..."are you afraid of dying.....maybe, today?" Its unreal, embarrassing, and makes you want to spit your drink out, all at the same time. I hope one of these times someone speaks their mind about, "What kind of question is this". Put some russian cartoons on kid and grab ya sippy cup.
The first three minutes of this one are the most powerful. So good to see a grateful immigrant. Welcome, Lex. You are the type of New American my father and uncle fought and bled for in wars past.
Lex’s intro is beautiful and pumps me up.. my family immigrated to this country and I feel the exact same way. I love America and Humanity.
Me: sees lex upload: ooh
Me: sees guest: *OOOOHHHHH*
Same
Hard to find more opposite personalities talking to each other.
@pinned : Lex Fridman Find something new and meaningful to do in life instead of scamming people.
Both are fans of black and white color palettes too
Hard listen. Had to bail.
Lex's intro made me love my country more. Powerful speech
God bless our veterans and all those who serve this nation and the sacrifices they have made to keep us alive
Beautiful intro Lex! Very wholesome!
Lex looks like an incarnate AI trying to learn what it means to be human.
That pretty much describes anyone born in the soviet union actually
@@Hongobogologomo 😆🤣.....😂
How does this guy get so many good guests?
@@jeremyrlack money
@@jeremyrlack respect
All of this felt like a long Turing test...
At the beginning would have being perfectly ok if Lex started showing
Grid collages of digital pictures and ask Jocko.
"Point at all the fire hydrants"
Lex conveys the pain of the Soviet experience in WWII like few I’ve seen. It’s clear how deep a wound was left by that immense suffering. We don’t often see that side of the conflict in the West. It was horrific.
it happens when you're a kid growing up in europe your parents and grandparents explain over and over their hardships and experiences with the war and post war which makes it hard on you feeling their pain
A fascinating range of topics covered here, in depth and in very very useful ways. Jocko is as badass intellectually as he would be on the mat. Well done, Lex, for attracting such supreme guests and for wisely knowing how to get the best and all the use out of them that you do.
This has to be one of Lex’s best interviews.
I feel like I would have just gotten sorry for myself when Jocko answered the questions like he did.
However Lex knew this was going to happen, prepared for it and perfectly blended his style and Jocko’s.
I agree. My cheeks were tight this entire conversation. I felt like I was Lex 😂 His interview style is certainly the best.
As a proud American I have to say that intro was beautiful! 🇺🇲
When Jocko was born, his parents were told "congratulations, it's a man"
(comment credit goes to Jocko's comment section lol)
I gave you this like out of respect for you being honest that you didn’t conceive of the comment 👍
Holy shit I died laughing reading this lmao
Here's a version of this that I heard somewhere: When Jocko was born, the doctor told him "Congratulations, it's your parents."
Best interview of Jocko ever, in my opinion. Thank you both, have a great day!
This was an amazing conversation. Funny, dark, compelling, informative, inspiring and easy. Thank you Gents 🙏
The first three minutes of this video...give me hope in humanity and this country. Lex, I respect and admire you from afar...and it's so inspiring to hear your words, behind all that Russian "stoicism"!
Jocko is such an inspiring figure, the amount of things I learn from him is unbelievable 🙏
Same here. And some people say he's not saying anything new. But that doesn't matter. It's the example he sets. He is what he's talking about.
@@andreasauke5724 Exactly. After thousands of years of human civilization, I challenge anyone to say "something new" and completely "unheard of" in 2021. What a silly argument. As you said, it's the example that people like him set, day by day, that makes all the difference in the world.
Same here
Jocko is so much different than many other folks you hear from on podcasts. 1.) He’s a great listener. Not sure I heard him interrupt or interject, at least not that stood out. 2.) His answers are almost always so simple and direct. Most of the time the answer is very simple, but for some reason we tend to want a more complex breakdown of something.
Nice of Jocko to allow Lex to his podcast. Good man!
Lex: Does the old man still got it?
Jocko: You talkin to me?
Lex: 😐
When?
@@neillodi9688 1:33:10
This was my favorite part
I came to this video exactly for this.
Lol best part
In my opinion, this interview is a perfect example to why Lex is among the top interviewers in the world. His questions are so specific yet overlooked and never asked from other interviewers. The leadership case study was so interesting, I had to listen to it on loop a few times!
Thank you @Lex Fridman
Lex: "Do you worry about this?"
Jocko: "No."
Jocko beat the sun in a staring contest
The way Jocko looks at Lex when he asks "What does it feel like....to kill another human being?" Priceless. These conversations can be titillating.
Time stamp
Please
@@Vitalbowhunting around the 20 minute mark
18:30. I almost pissed myself
Lex saying how self critical he is to the point he hates everything he has done is so relatable. I feel confident in the things I do but looking back I often find it like I could've done this or said this to be better and it doesn't paralyze me but it makes me reflect so hard
TH-cam needs a “SuperLike” button. Pure Excellence. Thanks to all involved for putting this out into the world.
Lex, your opener was absolutely spectacular, inspiring and lovely. God bless you.
That intro brought a tear to my eye.
Pain recognizes pain. Love recognizes love. It is an odd balance. From one weird kid to another 💫
Two humble giants. Loved it!
01:33:00 best moment in podcast history
When Jocko went to school, the principal said, "when I grow up I hope I'm a man like you."
JACKO?
@@goudafeta2165 typo
@@goudafeta2165 wacko jacko steals the elephant mans bones
I feel like Lex is more tense in this interview, and confrontational stance. Can’t blame him, but Jocko’s a genuine sweetheart and has a lot more wisdom to share with us. Thank you :)
Yeah there's periods where lex doesn't make any eye contact whilst talking for minutes at a time
So love my Seals!! Nice to be introduced to Jocko. Thanks Lex. Just ordered his book Extreme Ownership: How U.S. Navy SEALs Lead and Win. My favorite for decades has been Leadership Secrets of the Rogue Warrior: A Commando's Guide to Success
by Richard Marcinko . I so adore the Warrior side of you, Lex. I was an Army Military Policewoman, SGT, and lived by Marcinko's 10 Commandments as a blueprint for being a good leader. Now I am looking forward to Jocko's wisdom...nice Nuggett
Marcinko was a man that could perhaps be the most influential SEAL of all time. His legacy inspired already great warriors to step it up a notch. Only group of warriors close to the SEALS are the SAS, in fact the are so similar they do joint operations. SAS are animals. I unfortunately have to say in my experience the are tiny bit better than SEALS they are taught to have no restraint whereas the SEALS are often having to fight with ridiculous rules, SAS does not, they are like the Israelis. No rules in war, none.
i've watched so many interviews from you lex... and kudos for sticking in here LMAO i've never watched an interviewer give such open ended questions to where the person being interviewed just didn't want to elaborate LOL so brutal at times, like bro he's throwing u a bone talk
two of the most powerful teachers in my life. thanks