I swear I can watch this scene 100 times and never get bored of it. This is easily one of the greatest opening scenes to any movie I have ever scene. The fact that they made it this good after it was done so many times before really seals it as a legendary scene.
Man this was beautiful. I literally felt like I was reading the comic. The pistol shot, turned page. The pearls shattering, turned paged. The all white "Mankind is introduced to the Superman" part, turned page. The all black "18 months later" part, turned page. That beautiful shot of the ocean, turned page. This was a perfect beginning for a great movie that gets way more hate than the praise it should get
Check_The_ Comment That is what many people like about Zack Snyder. He is a photographer who somehow made it to Hollywood. He is incredibly good at slow motion, because it very closely resembles a still image. This opening is great. Sad that the rest of the film was such a clusterf*ck.
Considering how many times we've seen the Waynes get murdered, the fact Snyder was able to make one of the most haunting, beautiful, and memorable versions says something about his quality as a visual story teller.
But also fits the narrative of Bruce’s arc and character. His trauma is affected by that night. And the reason he didn’t kill superman was because of that moment.
If you think about it the villains should be fighting chill not Batman because chill won’t fight back and chill created Batman so really just get a time travel villain and kill chill before he has the chance to kill Batman’s parents however some villains were from the creation of the Batman
The best explanation for that Martha Scene is perhaps this dialogue :- My body shuddered under the burden of adrenaline and my mind was a shadow of its whole self, and yet through the very cloud of my beautiful pain I heard her name Martha. An impossible glimpse of bright light pierced the storm of my heart and was nothing more than a child again. I realized then, that the darkness which had taken my heart now threatened to take my very being. I was becoming the very thing which crushed my younger self, a cruel fate worse than any other agony. I sought to exact the pain I suffered on a being I hardly understood, except that he had a mother, and her name was Martha. And it broke me.
@@arahul4045 Where did you get this from buddy? I read something similar to this a long time ago but couldn't find it again.. People who didn't get the Martha scene should be shoved with this writing. Anyways, now I've saved a screenshot of this. Thanks.
@@jtcob8486 Arkham games are great, but man... Origins and Arkham Knight... Origins was meh and Arkham Knight rushed its plot at the end because « tAnK fiGhTs !!! »
Zack Snyder had planned it along.The casting was phenomenal.He wanted to introduce the flashpoint and for which he specifically chose Lauren Cohan and Morgan .I am so upset I will never get to see Lauren as The Joker and that laugh!! Zack's vision was amazing!
The best explanation for that Martha Scene is perhaps this dialogue :- My body shuddered under the burden of adrenaline and my mind was a shadow of its whole self, and yet through the very cloud of my beautiful pain I heard her name Martha. An impossible glimpse of bright light pierced the storm of my heart and was nothing more than a child again. I realized then, that the darkness which had taken my heart now threatened to take my very being. I was becoming the very thing which crushed my younger self, a cruel fate worse than any other agony. I sought to exact the pain I suffered on a being I hardly understood, except that he had a mother, and her name was Martha. And it broke me.
Snyder isn't THAT good. But is way sadly he got in his own personal drama and trauma. Where his beautiful lie was work could move away the sad and the pain of his lost. May he can find a real peace.
Can Aydin The scene, yes. The film, definitely not! Just sayin Jesse Eisenberg, whatever the f*ck doomsday was, and of course, everybody’s favorite, “Martha!”.
Benjamino 2000 The idea behind the Martha scene isn’t bad, the film just fails in its execution. And wether you like Jesse Eisenberg’s portrayal of the character of Lex Luthor, depends on the personal opinion. He wasn’t bad, I just thought he was way too much Jesse Eisenberg. I don’t mean to offend anybody by this. It’s just my opinion. The film has some great moments, but FOR ME the overall picture is nothing but Zack Snyder not knowing anything about basic storytelling. He is a masterful photographer and no one in Hollywood does better slow mo than him, but I just didn’t like the film and it’s in my right to do so. Again this is just my personal opinion, you don’t have to feel the same way about it. Just my opinion. Please stop wasting your time telling people how they’re supposed to think on the internet. It’s dumb, childish and creates conflict where it isn’t needed. The world has enough bullshit happening already, with Trump and all that. You don’t have to do this. Try and be someone better. I believe in you. YOU CAN DO IT. (Please don’t start an argument over this and do not reply to this message. Just leave it be.)
Black Hammer Productions I don’t think it’s dumb and childish to encourage positively and also I don’t think that Donald trump is at all relevant and will just cause people to be angry. I would also say that you have the right to your opinion. I do not understand how you can not like a character just because it is similar to the actor. Robert Downey Jr Iron Man is loved by many people even though he almost just plays himself. I am not trying to offend and I apologize if you see it that way. As for the Doomsday thing I agree that his design was horribly ugly. Overall the film’s story was good enough for me to get past that however.
@@eyezack2778 Superman was just a god with god problems and wasn’t relatable at all, killing off Jimmy Olsen was dumb, Lex Luthor sucks in this movie and is way less interesting than his comic book version, having Wonder Woman in this movie was pointless, the death of Superman was ruined, the fight between Batman and Superman was short and Batman’s plan is dumb because it required Superman to knock him into a specific building so he can use the spear but if Superman threw him really far away from that building Batman would’ve been screwed.
What could've been. We have three movies though and I will watch them more times than I EVER watch this Warner Bros committee-created CRAP with Gunn or whoever's name stamped on it.
In life we don't appreciate things until they are gone...sometimes we have to watch the movie that's in front us & not the movie we built up in our heads! Thank you Zack Snyder for giving us characters that had weight & substance to them.
Guys....the imagery, the symbolism, the music, and the emotional impact of this overall sequence....it's still got me f'ed up two years later....just wow....simply amazing.
The best explanation for that Martha Scene is perhaps this dialogue :- My body shuddered under the burden of adrenaline and my mind was a shadow of its whole self, and yet through the very cloud of my beautiful pain I heard her name Martha. An impossible glimpse of bright light pierced the storm of my heart and was nothing more than a child again. I realized then, that the darkness which had taken my heart now threatened to take my very being. I was becoming the very thing which crushed my younger self, a cruel fate worse than any other agony. I sought to exact the pain I suffered on a being I hardly understood, except that he had a mother, and her name was Martha. And it broke me.
@@tacofingerz7247 No it wasn't. That's a very shitty interpretation of Batman. I can personally show you studies by psychologists that say Batman doesn't have PTSD. It's pure love and desire for justice.
@@brucew565 Pure love and desire for justice? Theres more than that for a guy who dresses up as a Bat every night to go out to fight crime. Theres a hell of a lot more than "love" inside that man if theres any. Batman had one rule, and tjat very rule itself has killed more people than has saved. Think about all the people that have died because he refused to kill the Joker, it really makes you think. Im not saying he shouldve been a killer like other crime fighters but it only goes too far to show you that its been a long time for him to stick to his rule without even being critical about it. He says he won't kill because he doesnt want to become what he is "fighting" against, but by refusing to do that, way more people are dying, so its not about killing, its about HIM not wanting to become a killer, its really fuckin selfish and egocentric. He loves to break bones and infflict pain, he is quite addicted to it, there is no love whatsoever, only anger. "Pure love and desire for justice" really? Come on.
I love how Bruce Wayne falls just as his parents are killed... This shows Burce Wayne was fallen when his parents were killed. In the agony, he embraced his fear of bats and became Batman... Infact, since the beginning of the scene, there is a lot of emphasis on the word 'Fallen'. Throughout the scene, we see a lot of things falling like leaves, sparks, Bruce's father, bullet, Martha, and then Bruce. This scene has so much depth and meaning than many of the whole movies out there... And that's the reason it gets hatred from many people who aren't able to understand it. Well done Zack. I now understand that you had a plan, a great one. The only problem I had was, you made a very long movie, and that was the reason Warner Bros edited it and chopped it to 2 and half hours from 3 hours. If you had planned for a 2 and half hour movie in the beginning, just like Man Of Steel, it would have been really amazing, none the less, it still is, atleast for me.
A Rahul ikr! Actually i disappointed with Bvs they should have made it good hmm , i was expecting bvs will do more better than man of steel And lot of fighting scene than man of steel, but we ain't got that , even batman vs superman ain't enough, its just to short hmm , than JL disappointed me the most! Lame action fight, they should make the action like man of steel or JL crisis on earth
I never cared for Batman beginnings, I had heard the story so many times and had become desensitized, this opening really got me tearing up at how much Bruce has suffered and how psychologically broken he is after the loss of his parents
The best explanation for that Martha Scene is perhaps this dialogue :- My body shuddered under the burden of adrenaline and my mind was a shadow of its whole self, and yet through the very cloud of my beautiful pain I heard her name Martha. An impossible glimpse of bright light pierced the storm of my heart and was nothing more than a child again. I realized then, that the darkness which had taken my heart now threatened to take my very being. I was becoming the very thing which crushed my younger self, a cruel fate worse than any other agony. I sought to exact the pain I suffered on a being I hardly understood, except that he had a mother, and her name was Martha. And it broke me.
Everytime I watch BvS UE, I don’t know why I feel like this. Do you know that feeling like you are back home? after you’ve been out for a long time? and everytime you finish it, there is a new gem in it that you found? I can’t honestly explain how much I love his film. Sorry for my grammar if ever, English isn’t my first language
There was a time above...a time before...there were perfect things...diamond absolutes. But things fall...things on earth. And what falls...is fallen. In the dream, it took me to the light. A beautiful lie.
This in my opinion is the best opening scene to any superhero movie ever made. The cinematography, the music... I get goosebumps everytime i watch this
"Beautiful Lie" Bruce falls into pit. He sees light. He sees bats. Bats lift him to light. Bruce sees his parents get murdered in front of his eyes and thus he falls into grief. He sees that fighting for justice as his only hope for light. It seemed to him that the symbol of bat picked him from the pit and showed him the light. But actually the light where the bats took him gave him endless battles and endless sadness. And his moral code is facing constant conflict ever since he embraced the bats. The light of seeking justice never gave Batman peace. This is what I think of beautiful lie scene of BVS. And I think Snyder meant the same.
Ive been using this quote. My friends told me my crush also liked me, but she got wit someone else. My dream was that i couldve had a relationship. The light was my crush. The lie was me thinking i cuda got with her.
The best explanation for that Martha Scene is perhaps this dialogue :- My body shuddered under the burden of adrenaline and my mind was a shadow of its whole self, and yet through the very cloud of my beautiful pain I heard her name Martha. An impossible glimpse of bright light pierced the storm of my heart and was nothing more than a child again. I realized then, that the darkness which had taken my heart now threatened to take my very being. I was becoming the very thing which crushed my younger self, a cruel fate worse than any other agony. I sought to exact the pain I suffered on a being I hardly understood, except that he had a mother, and her name was Martha. And it broke me.
Zack Snyder can make the most comic accurate movie of all time and the haters would tell him to come up with his own ideas and to stop taking inspiration from comics.
At 2:00 has anyone thought that they're setting up for flashpoint? Cause in that Thomas Wayne makes a move on Chill and actually gets him but ends up killing Bruce in the process.... Food for thought
Joe DeMarco if Snyder's vision still existed , this moment could've played out as it is in BvS , but this exact moment would've been recreated in the future only with a slight difference of Thomas fighting off the mugger and Bruce dying in the Flashpoint movie
Well don't worry guys, we didn't get Darkseid a few years back, and we probably won't see him until around late 2020s. But The Flash movie is coming out in 2022, which will include the Flashpoint storyline. So not all hope is lost for us to finally see Thomas Wayne as The Batman
Watch the ultimate edition and pay close atention to Lois Lane throughout the whole movie, let yourself engage to the experience and hopefully it will change your mind. It is pretty much impossible to completely feel this movie if you can't catch up all the signs it has. It is a 3 hour masterpiece.
Gabe Selden at least MB can make a franchise work, 5 movies and a spin-off is nothing to be ashamed of. ZS made 2 and a third that was finished by a better director
𝓛𝓮𝓿 the fact that the quality of the action is the first thing to get mentioned shows how people can't pay attention to films unless there's some fighting in it. When action has to be mentioned (unless it's awful, which it wasnt in this movie) to criticize the film instead of the film itself, it shows how much one can't pay attention to movies, or appreciate it for it's other aspects, such as symbolism, character growth, etc.
i feel like after the theatrical came out so many people complained about them retelling this alley scene but in my opinion this is the best representation we’ve ever gotten of the alley scene .
Absolutely. Not insulting the audience by showing every little detail, but instead using the visual storytelling to encapsulate the PTSD-like choppiness of how a memory is recalled, and the vital moments of it like Martha’s necklace and Thomas muttering “Martha…” setting up the themes and character undertones of the film. All with a beautiful soundtrack
Shivers go down my spine when young Bruce starts rising up like a dark angel with him adapting to the bat frenzy almost as if they accepted him with that beautiful batman theme.
don't worry, we didn't get Darkseid a few years back, and we probably won't see him until around late 2020s. But The Flash movie is coming out in 2022, which will include the Flashpoint storyline. So not all hope is lost for us to finally see Thomas Wayne as The Batman
You don’t say… Feige said that it would be stupid to ever make his heroes fight each other and that he would never allow Marvel to make a live action Civil War… a year after, BvS was announced at Comic Con, and then next year Feige announced Civil War… Snyder and Nolan made BvS because it was a personal movie, with real thematics and authors points of view. Feige only made Civil War to go against DC and make the same thing with his heroes to make more money, even though he said 4 years before that he would never do that..,
You need an artistic minded audience too to appreciate such a rare masterpiece. This is CINEMA! Those who said BVS was crap have no taste in good cinema.
The subtlety of that scene is great, when Thomas Wayne thrusts his hand in front of Bruce's face you can hear the leather, I barely noticed it at this moment, he didn't die like a coward
No one mentioned it but Junkie XL has given one of the masterpiece soundtrack after Zimmer denied for another Batman movie, he just nailed it and this one is my favourite soundtrack.
@Chestor Hamilton marvel movies nowadays are good for action, comedy, also likeable characters, but they lack heart and soul, their music is also inconsistent, Spider-Man 2 and Logan had heart best music too, and this is coming from a comic book fan(mostly DC)
@@joeyjerry1586 cared about 🙄 I never cared about those clown superheroes of marvel who were acting as grown up children Actually marvel movies are cringe and irritating they have forced comedy and lacks soul
I will never understand the hate for this movie. Sure, it wasn't flawless but it never deserved the negativity and hate it received from so many viewers and critics. So many critics and fans had their heads so far up MCU a$$ that they failed to understand this movie. It is a masterclass. It is dark, it is deep, edgy making it so much compelling. "People hate what they don't understand" - Martha Kent
Vishu Dahiya these people don’t understand that DC is a dark universe unlike marvel. Even DC‘s Logo is a cold logo and well they got brighter, colorful movie with lot of jokes that called Justice League. They get what they fucking deserve
@@august1724 this is my favorite superhero movie by far even though there was studio interference I didn't care I loved the action I loved the casting Jesse isenberg was good not great I liked the Martha scene too
I love that his final quote is "a beautiful lie", if anyone is confused, the reason Batman kills is cause the Robin died a brutal death by the Joker and it caused him to lose all hope in criminals and justice which is why he decided to kill. He knew his dream of hope and justice was a lie, he knew it could never be achieved
BvS has 8 things: 1. The Best Batman(Ben Affleck) 2. The Best Superman(Henry Cavill) 3. The Best Wonder Woman(Gal Gadot) 4. The Most Hated Lex Luthor(Jessie Eisenbeg) 5. The Most Savage Alfred(Jeremy Irons) 6. The Best DCEU Director(Zack Snyder) 7.The Best Lois Lane(Amy Adams) 8. The Best Soundtrack i've ever heard in my life( Hans Zimmer&Junkie XL) if you agree Like and Comment!
The opening alone does all the work a trilogy needs. Tells you this Batman is violent because his father went down fighting, which accidentally killed his wife. This Batman doesn't believe in hopeful hero anymore, Bruce Wayne lost control to the bat..... Until... he makes a promise to someone. That THEIR mother won't die.
In my experience the response of a person towards a life shocking event depends on how much is lost. Couple of scenarios to illustrate my point, young couple looses their child. A happy couple will respond differently from a couple that had relationship issues. Or a couple that looses the child because of a dissease or because a maniac raped and killed the child. Straight up both couples lost a child, but relative to the situation: a couple with relationship issues will already be in an unhappy situation. The loss of a child will have less of an impact, and if the child would be lost because of a dissease it would be immensely horrible but relatively less impactful then the loss because of a violent crime. What Snyder does is make Bruce Wayne start by describing his past. The diamond absolute, perfect things. Then we see him with his parents, look how happy they are together. How often do we see families that happy? These pieces build an enormous impact from a violent death on young Bruce Wayne. Which supports Batman. Beautifully done. This happens in Bruces's dream, this must have happened like 30-40 years ago and Bruce Wayne still describes it as yesterday. The entire film the death of his parents is present in Bruce's story arch, whereas the nolan verse forgets it after Batman Begins.
What many idiots don't understand about the story, is that this moment is what has defined Bruce Wayne's life until now. It is the why of Batman. It gnaws away at him every night and it's why he starts to break bad and hunt Superman. Because when Superman arrives it reminds him of this night. That's why those two scenes are positioned back-to-back at the beginning of the movie. The infamous "Martha" scene was just Bruce having to deal with these wounds. It's rather simple and not very pretentious or complicated in any way. Idiots just don't understand.
not spotted it in the comments but probably is there somewhere within the 1k+ comments but did everyone else notice that as Bruce rises from cave his body has the shape of a bat? 4:35 I mean how facking awesome is this scene, it looks like the little bats are helping & guiding bruce to the light, reborn as a bat. The images can not be denied to be art.
Daniel Siekris It had a very simle plot really, the only thing missing is the occasional marvel quips which makes you forget where the fuck the story goes in the first place. Hence receive less criticism. Honestly, its not a bad film, its simply misunderstood. If you have any doubts I can provide insight to you, maybe it might change your mind?
Watch the ultimate edition and pay close atention to Lois Lane throughout the whole movie, let yourself engage to the experience and hopefully it will change your mind. It is pretty much impossible to completely feel this movie if you can't catch up all the signs it has. It is a 3 hour masterpiece.
I mean Nolan did include the league of assassins and the creation the no kill rule and creating the persona of batman Snyder focused on the trauma of the parents murder as a child while Nolan did the whole 10 year training story.
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Zack Snyder and opening credits. He just nails them
True. I mean just watch sucker punch. That opening was one of the best
Truly one of the best introductions to a film. This song compliments it awesomely too. Perfectly in sync!
Can't wait to see what he did for Justice League!
Nails the credits and bombs the rest of the film
I wish he did one with Man of Steel
I swear I can watch this scene 100 times and never get bored of it. This is easily one of the greatest opening scenes to any movie I have ever scene. The fact that they made it this good after it was done so many times before really seals it as a legendary scene.
I've seen this scene in more than seven different versions. This one almost made me cry.
+Franklin Santos same
The best scene of the Wayne murders ever!
Zack is fucking amazing
can you believe it there are still people who can't appreciate this scene? :'( well their loss for missing the beauty of it
Man this was beautiful. I literally felt like I was reading the comic. The pistol shot, turned page. The pearls shattering, turned paged. The all white "Mankind is introduced to the Superman" part, turned page. The all black "18 months later" part, turned page. That beautiful shot of the ocean, turned page. This was a perfect beginning for a great movie that gets way more hate than the praise it should get
Legend says that you're still turning the page
Check_The_ Comment That is what many people like about Zack Snyder. He is a photographer who somehow made it to Hollywood. He is incredibly good at slow motion, because it very closely resembles a still image. This opening is great. Sad that the rest of the film was such a clusterf*ck.
@@Flo-qw4jr except the rest of the film wasn't a cluster fuck.
@@avenger20sfancasts what you wrote is ridiculous.
I thought the theatrical release was sort of convoluted but the Ultimate Edition was absolutely fantastic.
Considering how many times we've seen the Waynes get murdered, the fact Snyder was able to make one of the most haunting, beautiful, and memorable versions says something about his quality as a visual story teller.
But also fits the narrative of Bruce’s arc and character. His trauma is affected by that night. And the reason he didn’t kill superman was because of that moment.
At least this Thomas Wayne tried to fight back instead of just standing there and letting him and his wife get shot
@@thefilmrookie3099is slenderman watching theme
I hate how ppl make fun of the Martha scene without understanding anything@@thefilmrookie3099
2022. Can we just take a moment and appreciate how this opening tells whole Batman story without a single dialogue?
Ik, I love how Zack Snyder just trusts you to know what is happening, unlike the mcu which dish out so much exposition
YES!
There is narration from Grown Up Bruce right there and dialogues from Alfred and Thomas Wayne. Minimum is not no dialogues.
2024 still amazing ❤
Joe Chill: I’m about to start this man’s whole career
His biggest mistake
I Think joe chill is the DC biggest Hero
Damn good response, never thought about it in that perspective!!
If you think about it the villains should be fighting chill not Batman because chill won’t fight back and chill created Batman so really just get a time travel villain and kill chill before he has the chance to kill Batman’s parents however some villains were from the creation of the Batman
Even in a comic, Joe payed the ultimate price for the birth of Batman.
best scene of Wayne's dying,the music and everything had me crying a min into movie
very faithful of Frank Miller's vision
Panel-by-panel recreation. Fucking beautiful
The best explanation for that Martha Scene is perhaps this dialogue :-
My body shuddered under the burden of adrenaline and my mind was a shadow of its whole self, and yet through the very cloud of my beautiful pain I heard her name Martha. An impossible glimpse of bright light pierced the storm of my heart and was nothing more than a child again. I realized then, that the darkness which had taken my heart now threatened to take my very being. I was becoming the very thing which crushed my younger self, a cruel fate worse than any other agony. I sought to exact the pain I suffered on a being I hardly understood, except that he had a mother, and her name was Martha. And it broke me.
@@arahul4045 Where did you get this from buddy? I read something similar to this a long time ago but couldn't find it again.. People who didn't get the Martha scene should be shoved with this writing. Anyways, now I've saved a screenshot of this. Thanks.
Imo the Joker one is my fav
WB : We want Batman's intro small but epic !
Zack Snyder : YES !!!
No matter how many times I’ve seen it, this opening always gives me chills. This movie rocks
Best treatment of the character ever. This movie's a jewel.
Cough cough animated series cough cough Arkham games
Especially the ultimate cut
@@jtcob8486 Arkham games are amazing
@@jtcob8486 Arkham games are great, but man... Origins and Arkham Knight... Origins was meh and Arkham Knight rushed its plot at the end because « tAnK fiGhTs !!! »
@@valoulegeekoff9636 hated the tank fights but i thought the story was fine except the cloudburst part
Zack Snyder had planned it along.The casting was phenomenal.He wanted to introduce the flashpoint and for which he specifically chose Lauren Cohan and Morgan .I am so upset I will never get to see Lauren as The Joker and that laugh!!
Zack's vision was amazing!
Agreed... I weep with you.
The best explanation for that Martha Scene is perhaps this dialogue :-
My body shuddered under the burden of adrenaline and my mind was a shadow of its whole self, and yet through the very cloud of my beautiful pain I heard her name Martha. An impossible glimpse of bright light pierced the storm of my heart and was nothing more than a child again. I realized then, that the darkness which had taken my heart now threatened to take my very being. I was becoming the very thing which crushed my younger self, a cruel fate worse than any other agony. I sought to exact the pain I suffered on a being I hardly understood, except that he had a mother, and her name was Martha. And it broke me.
We can’t give up
eh you can give up. DC is restarting its universe, and for good reason to.
Snyder isn't THAT good. But is way sadly he got in his own personal drama and trauma. Where his beautiful lie was work could move away the sad and the pain of his lost. May he can find a real peace.
Underrated masterpiece!
Can Aydin this movie will be talked for years
Can Aydin The scene, yes. The film, definitely not! Just sayin Jesse Eisenberg, whatever the f*ck doomsday was, and of course, everybody’s favorite, “Martha!”.
Benjamino 2000 The idea behind the Martha scene isn’t bad, the film just fails in its execution. And wether you like Jesse Eisenberg’s portrayal of the character of Lex Luthor, depends on the personal opinion. He wasn’t bad, I just thought he was way too much Jesse Eisenberg. I don’t mean to offend anybody by this. It’s just my opinion. The film has some great moments, but FOR ME the overall picture is nothing but Zack Snyder not knowing anything about basic storytelling. He is a masterful photographer and no one in Hollywood does better slow mo than him, but I just didn’t like the film and it’s in my right to do so. Again this is just my personal opinion, you don’t have to feel the same way about it. Just my opinion. Please stop wasting your time telling people how they’re supposed to think on the internet. It’s dumb, childish and creates conflict where it isn’t needed. The world has enough bullshit happening already, with Trump and all that. You don’t have to do this. Try and be someone better. I believe in you. YOU CAN DO IT.
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Black Hammer Productions I don’t think it’s dumb and childish to encourage positively and also I don’t think that Donald trump is at all relevant and will just cause people to be angry. I would also say that you have the right to your opinion. I do not understand how you can not like a character just because it is similar to the actor. Robert Downey Jr Iron Man is loved by many people even though he almost just plays himself. I am not trying to offend and I apologize if you see it that way. As for the Doomsday thing I agree that his design was horribly ugly. Overall the film’s story was good enough for me to get past that however.
@@Flo-qw4jr The Martha scene didn't fail since I understood the first time just because other people didn't doesn't make it bad
Cinematography is beyond top level
Thank goodness someone talked about it why Isn't more people talking about it
Everything in this movie is beyond top level
@@eyezack2778 the plot is garbage
@@nathannix3217 nope, it's awesome
@@eyezack2778 Superman was just a god with god problems and wasn’t relatable at all, killing off Jimmy Olsen was dumb, Lex Luthor sucks in this movie and is way less interesting than his comic book version, having Wonder Woman in this movie was pointless, the death of Superman was ruined, the fight between Batman and Superman was short and Batman’s plan is dumb because it required Superman to knock him into a specific building so he can use the spear but if Superman threw him really far away from that building Batman would’ve been screwed.
this movie was amazing. we will miss you guys. zack, henry, ben...
What could've been. We have three movies though and I will watch them more times than I EVER watch this Warner Bros committee-created CRAP with Gunn or whoever's name stamped on it.
@@Whaddayamean13 not going to start anything, but the dc extended (ultimate or directors cut)movies made more money then any marvel movie ever did
This reference to Excalibur and King Arthur legend the night Bruce Wayne turn into the "Dark Knight" is pure genius.
Arthur who? 🤔😧
@@pavan3216 King Arthur. Knights of the Round Table?
Could you explain?
the excalibur is the favorite movie of zack snyder. the death of superman is the same like king arthur in Excalibur movie
*Next Time on Fate/ Stay Night*
i dont care about the millions of marvel. zack made an art
Visually, not story telling
@@CoyoteWill664 Story telling too...
@@anarcocapitalistadexiaomi1951 definitely storytelling. It's just he is ahead of everyone else. Takes time to recognize this stuff.
exactly
@@CoyoteWill664 storytelling too
This is not a movie, it's an art.
@Aksel Ørbæk Pedersen 5A You suck...
At first. At the end, it's a stupid fight with a stupid CG monster.
@Aksel Ørbæk Pedersen 5A fuck uuuuuuu forever.Youre a sin
@Aksel Ørbæk Pedersen 5A 🖕🏻
@@superplaceholder6537
Says the one with a channel full of stupid fighting anime characters lol
"In the dream, they took me to the light. A beautiful lie..." -Bruce Wayne
Beautiful. This is just BEAUTIFUL!!
Would you say it's a "Beautiful Lie"? Jeje
Batman Begins: “Your father failed to act.”
BVS: Thomas Wayne acts and gets shot anyways...
Kid Buu at least he went out like a G
Flashpoint: Had he acted he and his wife would have survived but Bruce died instead.
Died in the gutter.. Like it was nothing
so basicaly someone would die no matter what...
Training is nothing.
Will is everything.
Best scene in the whole superheroes movies history
"First flight" scene in Man Of Steel is the best.
Right?! If only the rest of the movie(s) had had the same level of quality
Infinity War Gamora death scene is better imo
@@BlackParade01 ok, but this Is a good intro too
@@BlackParade01 Father killing his daughter...Imao
In life we don't appreciate things until they are gone...sometimes we have to watch the movie that's in front us & not the movie we built up in our heads!
Thank you Zack Snyder for giving us characters that had weight & substance to them.
Guys....the imagery, the symbolism, the music, and the emotional impact of this overall sequence....it's still got me f'ed up two years later....just wow....simply amazing.
"In the dreams, they took me to the light."
"A beautiful lie."
- Bruce Wayne
zack snyder + hans zimmer = Beautiful scene
Every time I watch this scene,I will cry.
The best explanation for that Martha Scene is perhaps this dialogue :-
My body shuddered under the burden of adrenaline and my mind was a shadow of its whole self, and yet through the very cloud of my beautiful pain I heard her name Martha. An impossible glimpse of bright light pierced the storm of my heart and was nothing more than a child again. I realized then, that the darkness which had taken my heart now threatened to take my very being. I was becoming the very thing which crushed my younger self, a cruel fate worse than any other agony. I sought to exact the pain I suffered on a being I hardly understood, except that he had a mother, and her name was Martha. And it broke me.
This is poetry visualized.
goal in life is to have a kid that cares that much bout me that he would become crimefighter if I was killed.
yg momBa hear hear :)
Just make sure you have plenty of stuff to ensure that your kid is very, very well off
It was not just because he loved them, it was a trauma.
@@tacofingerz7247 No it wasn't. That's a very shitty interpretation of Batman. I can personally show you studies by psychologists that say Batman doesn't have PTSD. It's pure love and desire for justice.
@@brucew565 Pure love and desire for justice? Theres more than that for a guy who dresses up as a Bat every night to go out to fight crime. Theres a hell of a lot more than "love" inside that man if theres any. Batman had one rule, and tjat very rule itself has killed more people than has saved. Think about all the people that have died because he refused to kill the Joker, it really makes you think. Im not saying he shouldve been a killer like other crime fighters but it only goes too far to show you that its been a long time for him to stick to his rule without even being critical about it. He says he won't kill because he doesnt want to become what he is "fighting" against, but by refusing to do that, way more people are dying, so its not about killing, its about HIM not wanting to become a killer, its really fuckin selfish and egocentric. He loves to break bones and infflict pain, he is quite addicted to it, there is no love whatsoever, only anger. "Pure love and desire for justice" really? Come on.
I love how Bruce Wayne falls just as his parents are killed... This shows Burce Wayne was fallen when his parents were killed. In the agony, he embraced his fear of bats and became Batman... Infact, since the beginning of the scene, there is a lot of emphasis on the word 'Fallen'. Throughout the scene, we see a lot of things falling like leaves, sparks, Bruce's father, bullet, Martha, and then Bruce.
This scene has so much depth and meaning than many of the whole movies out there... And that's the reason it gets hatred from many people who aren't able to understand it. Well done Zack. I now understand that you had a plan, a great one. The only problem I had was, you made a very long movie, and that was the reason Warner Bros edited it and chopped it to 2 and half hours from 3 hours. If you had planned for a 2 and half hour movie in the beginning, just like Man Of Steel, it would have been really amazing, none the less, it still is, atleast for me.
A Rahul ikr! Actually i disappointed with Bvs they should have made it good hmm , i was expecting bvs will do more better than man of steel And lot of fighting scene than man of steel, but we ain't got that , even batman vs superman ain't enough, its just to short hmm , than JL disappointed me the most! Lame action fight, they should make the action like man of steel or JL crisis on earth
2:00 flashpoint Thomas makes it.
@@rifqiiszaree3393 You sound and complain like a kid
@@rifqiiszaree3393 That's because you are expecting a fight without any reason. They had to tell a story, not a CGI fight
BvS was supposed to be a two part movie. Its not Zacks fault.
One of the best opening sequence of superhero flick in history.
Snyder doesn't deserve much hate, he's an amazing visual storyteller, tbh
They better use this soundtrack if they make flashpoint !!!
For the batman movies*
EXACTLY what I was thinking! It would be a shame if they didn't!
Fuck yeah dude 👊 with you on that one. Flashpoint 1:57 he makes it.
Yeah I recon the scene would be similar, but Thomas would make the punch and at one point the gun would shoot Bruce.
Seems like this song will appear on WW84.
Damn, Snyder is the king of opening credits. Watchmen and BVS both had extremely beautiful visuals and cinematography.
Also Dawn of the Dead
Both had Jeffry
The scene where that man shoots them is a piece of art. 11/10 for that scene. Absolute perfection
This scene is freaking powerfull and deep. BvS for life 🤘
I agree but don’t make than sign
@@anthy938 xd
@@anthy938 why?
@@AN-filmandmusic search it up
@@anthy938 found nothing about it. What's wrong with it
I never cared for Batman beginnings, I had heard the story so many times and had become desensitized, this opening really got me tearing up at how much Bruce has suffered and how psychologically broken he is after the loss of his parents
The best explanation for that Martha Scene is perhaps this dialogue :-
My body shuddered under the burden of adrenaline and my mind was a shadow of its whole self, and yet through the very cloud of my beautiful pain I heard her name Martha. An impossible glimpse of bright light pierced the storm of my heart and was nothing more than a child again. I realized then, that the darkness which had taken my heart now threatened to take my very being. I was becoming the very thing which crushed my younger self, a cruel fate worse than any other agony. I sought to exact the pain I suffered on a being I hardly understood, except that he had a mother, and her name was Martha. And it broke me.
And then you see joker and realize that Arthur Also is really broken
Limau Purut no shit Sherlock
He isn't psychologically broken
@@brucew565 Dude Batman is psycholgically broken. He is suffering from PTSD
Everytime I watch BvS UE, I don’t know why I feel like this. Do you know that feeling like you are back home? after you’ve been out for a long time? and everytime you finish it, there is a new gem in it that you found? I can’t honestly explain how much I love his film. Sorry for my grammar if ever, English isn’t my first language
The most realistic and very much able to relate to superhero is Batman !!! Salute to Zimmer nd Junkie xl for this wonderful piece of music
There was a time above...a time before...there were perfect things...diamond absolutes. But things fall...things on earth. And what falls...is fallen. In the dream, it took me to the light. A beautiful lie.
This in my opinion is the best opening scene to any superhero movie ever made. The cinematography, the music... I get goosebumps everytime i watch this
"Beautiful Lie"
Bruce falls into pit. He sees light. He sees bats. Bats lift him to light.
Bruce sees his parents get murdered in front of his eyes and thus he falls into grief. He sees that fighting for justice as his only hope for light. It seemed to him that the symbol of bat picked him from the pit and showed him the light. But actually the light where the bats took him gave him endless battles and endless sadness. And his moral code is facing constant conflict ever since he embraced the bats. The light of seeking justice never gave Batman peace.
This is what I think of beautiful lie scene of BVS. And I think Snyder meant the same.
beautiful indeed. And that folks is why batman kills, coz he got fed up with the Beautiful lie.
Trust me... This movie is way more deep than we imagine it to be...
Ive been using this quote. My friends told me my crush also liked me, but she got wit someone else. My dream was that i couldve had a relationship. The light was my crush. The lie was me thinking i cuda got with her.
Nice explanation. That's the thing with movie, there are so many point of view. Thats what it takes to make a great movie.
The best explanation for that Martha Scene is perhaps this dialogue :-
My body shuddered under the burden of adrenaline and my mind was a shadow of its whole self, and yet through the very cloud of my beautiful pain I heard her name Martha. An impossible glimpse of bright light pierced the storm of my heart and was nothing more than a child again. I realized then, that the darkness which had taken my heart now threatened to take my very being. I was becoming the very thing which crushed my younger self, a cruel fate worse than any other agony. I sought to exact the pain I suffered on a being I hardly understood, except that he had a mother, and her name was Martha. And it broke me.
Zack Snyder can make the most comic accurate movie of all time and the haters would tell him to come up with his own ideas and to stop taking inspiration from comics.
@Mr7Reality Watchmen [Ultimate Cut]
This is more than a movie, this is art.
Thank you Zack Snyder.
Darkness adopted Bruce
And the light lied to Bruce.
Oh, you think darkness is your ally?
No, he became one with the Darkness
At 2:00 has anyone thought that they're setting up for flashpoint? Cause in that Thomas Wayne makes a move on Chill and actually gets him but ends up killing Bruce in the process.... Food for thought
Joe DeMarco very good call my friend. It's coming
Joe DeMarco if Snyder's vision still existed , this moment could've played out as it is in BvS , but this exact moment would've been recreated in the future only with a slight difference of Thomas fighting off the mugger and Bruce dying in the Flashpoint movie
That was the plan before WB fucked it up.
Well don't worry guys, we didn't get Darkseid a few years back, and we probably won't see him until around late 2020s. But The Flash movie is coming out in 2022, which will include the Flashpoint storyline. So not all hope is lost for us to finally see Thomas Wayne as The Batman
Watch the ultimate edition and pay close atention to Lois Lane throughout the whole movie, let yourself engage to the experience and hopefully it will change your mind. It is pretty much impossible to completely feel this movie if you can't catch up all the signs it has. It is a 3 hour masterpiece.
ultimate edition is even worse than the theatrical cut. its longer and more boring.
The ultimate edition is awesomel
Victor Orozco Then go back to watching your Michael Bay crap. You obviously don’t care about good story and plot progression
@@victor4782 you expect them to pull a Michael bay
Gabe Selden at least MB can make a franchise work, 5 movies and a spin-off is nothing to be ashamed of. ZS made 2 and a third that was finished by a better director
zack don't make me cry
Why this film gets a bad rap is beyond me.
cmasc966 The entirety of the movie was not knit together well.
While this scene is the definition of perfection, the rest of the film far from that
Action wasnt good enough and batman was overall a godawful character and rendition of himself
This scenes good cause afleck isnt in it.
𝓛𝓮𝓿 the fact that the quality of the action is the first thing to get mentioned shows how people can't pay attention to films unless there's some fighting in it. When action has to be mentioned (unless it's awful, which it wasnt in this movie) to criticize the film instead of the film itself, it shows how much one can't pay attention to movies, or appreciate it for it's other aspects, such as symbolism, character growth, etc.
I think the same way except for Man of Steel. I know I'm in the minority but I absolutely adored Man of Steel, yet I hated BvS.
This scene made me cry...
i feel like after the theatrical came out so many people complained about them retelling this alley scene but in my opinion this is the best representation we’ve ever gotten of the alley scene .
Absolutely. Not insulting the audience by showing every little detail, but instead using the visual storytelling to encapsulate the PTSD-like choppiness of how a memory is recalled, and the vital moments of it like Martha’s necklace and Thomas muttering “Martha…” setting up the themes and character undertones of the film. All with a beautiful soundtrack
Shivers go down my spine when young Bruce starts rising up like a dark angel with him adapting to the bat frenzy almost as if they accepted him with that beautiful batman theme.
Man, imagine a flashpoint movie with Jeffrey Dean Morgan as Thomas Wayne and playing this song. Ugh, what I would do to see that happen.
don't worry, we didn't get Darkseid a few years back, and we probably won't see him until around late 2020s. But The Flash movie is coming out in 2022, which will include the Flashpoint storyline. So not all hope is lost for us to finally see Thomas Wayne as The Batman
@@TaeringYT nope we see him tommorow
There is hope.
#RestoreTheSnyderVerse
Well….(if you’re seeing this after the movie came out, your cringe)
@@fiasypiage952what do you even mean?!?! LOL
Kevin Feige makes money.
Zack Snyder makes art.
100% FACTS!!
You don’t say… Feige said that it would be stupid to ever make his heroes fight each other and that he would never allow Marvel to make a live action Civil War… a year after, BvS was announced at Comic Con, and then next year Feige announced Civil War… Snyder and Nolan made BvS because it was a personal movie, with real thematics and authors points of view. Feige only made Civil War to go against DC and make the same thing with his heroes to make more money, even though he said 4 years before that he would never do that..,
@@valou-scalingany source plz
Only senseless watch kevin movie .
Fr, DC >>>>>> Marvel
We need this DC back again
You need an artistic minded audience too to appreciate such a rare masterpiece. This is CINEMA! Those who said BVS was crap have no taste in good cinema.
This is probably the best comic book movie opening ever.
That necklace shot is enough to give me chills. what a lovely shot
Hans Zimmer is legend
Credit goes to both Hans Zimmer and Junkie XL
Yeah, don't forget tom
🐐
@Mr Literally goat 🐐 #greatestofalltime
2:55 i can feel the pain of a kid losing his parents
*Marvel movies are gold full of life good acting colorful humour but These three movie( MOS, BVS, ZSJL) my friend are PURE ART*
Something we can agree upon!!!! Another example of Pure Art is Batman Begins, TDK and TDKR
The fact we’re getting an actual flashpoint without jeffrey dean morgen as thomas Wayne hurts me a little. He was perfect
BvS is one of the greatest films of our generation its themes are just SO POWERFUL.
The subtlety of that scene is great, when Thomas Wayne thrusts his hand in front of Bruce's face you can hear the leather, I barely noticed it at this moment, he didn't die like a coward
How did we go from masterpiece sequences like this to the comedy central like Shazam 2 and Flash.
The choice to have this version of Thomas, step forward and fight is just genius.
Yeah they were setting up the flashpoint paradox which explains the buffed up Thomas Wayne.
The most powerful death scene of Batman’s parents I’ve ever seen
3:39 Finally DC, finally Bill finger began receiving credits as Batman's co-creator (though he created it all by himself).
He was the real creator not the co creator Bob Kane stole his credit
@@puneet9234 I know, but unfortunately DC only credits him as a co-creator.
Check out the best documentary film called "Batman and Bill".
No one mentioned it but Junkie XL has given one of the masterpiece soundtrack after Zimmer denied for another Batman movie, he just nailed it and this one is my favourite soundtrack.
3:09 "Martha" is the reason why batman didn't kill superman at the end...
This movie is a masterpiece 👏
The best Wayne family murder ever. So emotional
Thank you Hans Zimmer We miss you Zack Snyder
Underrated masterpiece......Still better from any marvel movie....
@Chestor Hamilton actually i like Dr.strange. But the final fight... It sucks
@Chestor Hamilton Those aren’t even part of mcu
@Chestor Hamilton marvel movies nowadays are good for action, comedy, also likeable characters, but they lack heart and soul, their music is also inconsistent, Spider-Man 2 and Logan had heart best music too, and this is coming from a comic book fan(mostly DC)
@@ahmedaziz8660 IKR mcu fans compare endgame, IW, WS, FFH with TDK,SM2, and logan
@@joeyjerry1586 cared about 🙄 I never cared about those clown superheroes of marvel who were acting as grown up children
Actually marvel movies are cringe and irritating they have forced comedy and lacks soul
I said it before but im gonna say it again , this movie's soundtrack is amazing !!!! I never get tired of it
This Thomas Wayne has to be my favorite version because he actually tried protecting his family and didn't just let the guy kill them.
I will never understand the hate for this movie. Sure, it wasn't flawless but it never deserved the negativity and hate it received from so many viewers and critics.
So many critics and fans had their heads so far up MCU a$$ that they failed to understand this movie. It is a masterclass. It is dark, it is deep, edgy making it so much compelling.
"People hate what they don't understand" - Martha Kent
People says this movie sucked.
Me : why people hate what they don't understand 😔😔😔😔
Yessss
Vishu Dahiya these people don’t understand that DC is a dark universe unlike marvel. Even DC‘s Logo is a cold logo and well they got brighter, colorful movie with lot of jokes that called Justice League. They get what they fucking deserve
@@august1724 this is my favorite superhero movie by far even though there was studio interference I didn't care I loved the action I loved the casting Jesse isenberg was good not great I liked the Martha scene too
Theatrical cut really sucks
@@solaimansohan138 but I have watched the whole extended cut and it was awesome !!!
tbh this scene is much better than the whole multiverse of marvel. the execution was soo perfect.
I love that his final quote is "a beautiful lie", if anyone is confused, the reason Batman kills is cause the Robin died a brutal death by the Joker and it caused him to lose all hope in criminals and justice which is why he decided to kill. He knew his dream of hope and justice was a lie, he knew it could never be achieved
Best intro in world..😎😃
BvS has 8 things:
1. The Best Batman(Ben Affleck)
2. The Best Superman(Henry Cavill)
3. The Best Wonder Woman(Gal Gadot)
4. The Most Hated Lex Luthor(Jessie Eisenbeg)
5. The Most Savage Alfred(Jeremy Irons)
6. The Best DCEU Director(Zack Snyder)
7.The Best Lois Lane(Amy Adams)
8. The Best Soundtrack i've ever heard in my life( Hans Zimmer&Junkie XL) if you agree Like and Comment!
u right
Agreed
@HaremGodRance Arkham Batman and DCEU Batman fight how Batman should really fight.
And the best Bruce Wayne
@@eccentricity00 damn right.
The opening alone does all the work a trilogy needs.
Tells you this Batman is violent because his father went down fighting, which accidentally killed his wife. This Batman doesn't believe in hopeful hero anymore, Bruce Wayne lost control to the bat.....
Until... he makes a promise to someone. That THEIR mother won't die.
🔥🔥🔥
God, how can we went from this to that Joss Weed On Justice League !! WB I want my money back !
We succeeded !!!!!
@@AN-filmandmusic Snyder cut is coming.
Snydercut trailer is out
Snyder cut will do justice to Batman and the league
You need to give your money to hbo max on 18th March
I can't tell you how i feel everytime when I listen this theme and watch this Scene...it gives me goosebumps
The Music, My God the Music....
It’s beyond beautiful.
The best intro in any movie.... And the most impactful origin story in so tiny duration...
This scene makes me cry every damn time i see it
I still think this version of his parents dying is the best one. The music, camera work, and acting are all great
In my experience the response of a person towards a life shocking event depends on how much is lost.
Couple of scenarios to illustrate my point, young couple looses their child. A happy couple will respond differently from a couple that had relationship issues. Or a couple that looses the child because of a dissease or because a maniac raped and killed the child.
Straight up both couples lost a child, but relative to the situation: a couple with relationship issues will already be in an unhappy situation. The loss of a child will have less of an impact, and if the child would be lost because of a dissease it would be immensely horrible but relatively less impactful then the loss because of a violent crime.
What Snyder does is make Bruce Wayne start by describing his past. The diamond absolute, perfect things. Then we see him with his parents, look how happy they are together. How often do we see families that happy? These pieces build an enormous impact from a violent death on young Bruce Wayne. Which supports Batman. Beautifully done. This happens in Bruces's dream, this must have happened like 30-40 years ago and Bruce Wayne still describes it as yesterday.
The entire film the death of his parents is present in Bruce's story arch, whereas the nolan verse forgets it after Batman Begins.
This hands down imo is the best iteration of the Waynes' Death ever put to film. It looks so much from The Dark Knight Returns
Am obsessed with this Scene and that Godly BGM.... The beautiful lie... Such Perfection....
What many idiots don't understand about the story, is that this moment is what has defined Bruce Wayne's life until now. It is the why of Batman. It gnaws away at him every night and it's why he starts to break bad and hunt Superman. Because when Superman arrives it reminds him of this night. That's why those two scenes are positioned back-to-back at the beginning of the movie. The infamous "Martha" scene was just Bruce having to deal with these wounds. It's rather simple and not very pretentious or complicated in any way. Idiots just don't understand.
this story will inspire millions and will make them think 10 times before committing a crime because they will see what the victim ends up in.
not spotted it in the comments but probably is there somewhere within the 1k+ comments but did everyone else notice that as Bruce rises from cave his body has the shape of a bat? 4:35
I mean how facking awesome is this scene, it looks like the little bats are helping & guiding bruce to the light, reborn as a bat. The images can not be denied to be art.
How can anyone say this movie was bad which has scenes like this??
that's this movie's problem, tons of great, even amazing, scenes, just a reallllllyyyyyyy shitty plot and script.
They couldn't understand the movie and its symbolism. My favorite superhero movie ever!
Jr
Daniel Siekris It had a very simle plot really, the only thing missing is the occasional marvel quips which makes you forget where the fuck the story goes in the first place. Hence receive less criticism.
Honestly, its not a bad film, its simply misunderstood. If you have any doubts I can provide insight to you, maybe it might change your mind?
Watch the ultimate edition and pay close atention to Lois Lane throughout the whole movie, let yourself engage to the experience and hopefully it will change your mind. It is pretty much impossible to completely feel this movie if you can't catch up all the signs it has. It is a 3 hour masterpiece.
Daniel Siekris exactly. A couple of great scene do not make a great movie
One of the best classic scenes of the film
Zack God Snyder
The dark knight returns.
Yep in the movie :)
Madara Marc Exclusive If the death of Bruce's parents is equal to the comic book The Dark Knight Returns.
And this is how the greatest Character is born
Ladies and gentlemen You are witnessing The Great Batman
Zimmer's Batman theme at the end gives me chills to this day. This was the most masterfully crafted Bruce Wayne origin ever depicted.
How long do you need to tell an epic origin story of batman ?
Nolan - 3 hours maybe ?
Zack Snyder with hans zimmer - 4 mins only.
I mean Nolan did include the league of assassins and the creation the no kill rule and creating the persona of batman Snyder focused on the trauma of the parents murder as a child while Nolan did the whole 10 year training story.
I have seen this scene 1000 time but this thing always makes me cry❤