One of the things I regret was never seeing Moe strike balls. I got interested in golf later than most, by chance I saw a Natural Golf Infomercial, and saw Moe . Though I never really grasped personally the NG swing as the taught at the time. There are some parts of it that stayed with me.
I LOVE Moe Norman. Fabulous golfer. He kept refining his game late into his life. Moe adopted a new swing style he learned from Manuel De Latores. He was a true forward thinker when it came to golf. I have styled my game after Moe. Playing advanced players and winning the rounds is my testament to Moe's influence. I read watch and listen to everything I can find on him. Moe once said I wonder if anyone thinks about me...well I certainly will never let his name go unmentioned. I always give my games success to this wonderful man. RiP Moe your gone but NEVER forgotten!!!Thank you this video.
@@kathrynleaser5093 I agree with you. Moe is the King of golf in my book too. I know that the Oklahoma boys who teach Moe's method is gaining momentum because just yesterday I saw someone else that had their training aids on the driving range. Moe's swing method will continue to gain ground in the world of golf.
Moe used to hit balls at my club north of Toronto. He would show up on a Saturday morning and announce he was giving a clinic. (no one was aware of this except him). the members would gather around on the range to watch. We would all throw a 20$ bill on the ground beside his bag. He would make 400-500$ in a couple of hours. We would tee off, finish our rounds, have lunch, and Moe would still be hitting balls at the range. The club pros and assistants took care of him and made sure he knew he was welcome to stop by anywhere and any time. A legend!
My grandparents were members at Westmount Golf and Country Club for over 50 years. My grandmother used to help out Moe many times. She never told me any of this until I met him in the pro shop. Moe recognized my grandmother and called her by first name. I was stupefied. He was more than just a phenomenal golfer
I live in Chicago and it's not going well. I've lived in this coconut tree and voted Blue for the past 3 election cycles. Well guys, I'm done. For the first time I'm voting Red. Yes, I get the Trump personality hang up but policy is being placed before all of this foolishness that I have endured with this party. Best of luck everyone and I hope you all find happiness.
Because of a physical disability I have an odd, self taught swing. As a kid 35 years ago, someone said to me you swing like Moe Norman (I hit the ball pretty straight) I looked him up. From that point on he became my favorite golfer. I would tell people "don't watch my swing, watch the ball" and just smile! 😁
At 65, I was ready to give up golf due to back pain. I adopted this swing via the Graves Academy and can now play, pain-free. Over 100 rounds this season, a 6 handicap on a 6300 yd. course and I thank Moe Norman for giving me back my favourite pass time. Whenever I stray, on the course, I just say to myself; "How would Moe hit this?" and it gets the job done. Thanks, Trevor, for an excellent documentary.
That awesome! I'm glad that your self-determination, Moe's swing, and help from Graves have provided you with the pain-free ability to play this game we all love. Here's to more low rounds!
I was hitting balls on a range at Pinehurst years ago and found myself hitting next to Moe Norman. He was bouncing balls off the 150 sign on the range. He stoped hitting and went into the clubhouse for lunch. I knew that this was an incredible opportunity and went in and asked him if I could join him. He said "sure, love to have you" so, I sat there and asked him many questions. One of my questions was about his greatest round in his opinion. He was difficult to understand and I though he said 6 or 60 something but I asked him to speak slowly for me and his best round according to him was hitting six flagsticks on his approach shots. I asked him what he shot and he said "who cares", I hit six flag sticks". Just think about that!! How many have you hit in your life?
Moe was good friends with a pro I took lessons from. I got to meet him a few times and he was a great person. I also got to know Harvey Ward and got some short game lessons from him! To me both in their own way were gentlemen! Harvey was an icon here in Pinehurst.
Another Troll with nothing better to do. Thank you but living and working in Pinehurst almost 30 years has it's perks. I was also there at the Pinecrest Inn when Payne Stewart signed the men's room wall (over the door) the week he won the US Open! but you'll think that's fake too! Get a life troll
It is completely true. That is what he told me. i met him a few other times since I lived in Southern Pines and was a member of Pinehurst CC. He past through every year going to and returning from Florida in the winter. I don't need you to believe it. It is my experience and I have no need for your approval. I could care less what you believe. BTW, it is well known that he played many rounds with George Knudsen and the only way to win a hole was to hit a flagstick on an approach.@@ben1ben2ben1
I once played against a veteran with one arm. He couldn’t hit the ball far, but he hit it straight. He adjusted his game for this and his short game was outstanding. He could chip the ball to within a foot or two of the hole. Any time he got the ball within about eight feet of the hole, that ball was going in. This guy played in the mid seventies consistently. I was very impressed by his ability to overcome his disability.
In 1994, my 30 year old handicap of 20 went to a 12 in 6 months after learning the single plane swing of Jack Kirkendahl’s Natural Golf. This significant improvement garnered an invitation to teach this ‘new to me’ golf swing. But I digress. In late 1993, some youngster stole the woods from my bag as it sat at the bag drop. In January of ‘94, my bartender told me of this golf company, Natural Golf, right here in my town. When I went to see their golf clubs, I was shown a 15 minute video of Moe Norman and his golf swing. I took a series of lessons from Natural Golf’s teaching pro, Tony Portell. Later that year I met Moe when Natural Golf brought him to Bartlett, IL Over the next 10 years, my game and swing improved significantly due to the lessons I learned from Moe himself. By 1998, thanks to Moe’s lesson in left arm control, my handicap dropped to a respectable 6. I’m still teaching around Indianapolis with a 94% approval rating. Thanks, Moe.
Well done. I caddied at Bay of Quinte Golf Club years ago for my Club Pro, Moe was there. When asked by someone about how he lines up putts, he said ‘every putt is straight’. Actually makes sense, he just aimed left or right and hit it straight.
Being a Canadian golf nut, I know quite a bit about Moe and am also attempting to swing as much like him as possible... with very little success I might add 🙂 I was blown away by your level of detail, showing how much preparation and research you must've done to prepare this video. It was absolutely fantastic! Thank you very much for this.
I figured this was my one chance to do something on Moe, so I may as well make it as good as I currently can. I appreciate the comment, the kind words and wish you lots of success with your golf game. Cheers
As a young man, I remember that I was always pulling for Moe. Yes he was different, but that was endearing to me at the time. Thank you for bringing back memories of this underrated golfer.
For golf aficionados he is not underrated. Many golfing greats recognize him as one of the greatest ball strikers of all time, i.e. Tiger Woods, Lee Trevino, Jack Nicklaus. He wasn’t the greatest putter, a part of his game he didn’t find interesting.
I absolutely admire this great goat . What a labor of love he's done for golf. I dropped 10 strokes from my game in a week just following his down right simple approach to the game Mahalo nui loa Mr. Norman
Very well researched documentary Trevor! I grew up a 10 minute bicycle ride from the Dehaviland golf Centre mostly playing the par 3 course. But later my dad was a member at Pine Valley (now The National built on its lands) and worked in the pro shop as a student for George Clifton. Mr Clifton, and the owner Jack Bailey always welcomed Moe to Pine Valley where he sometimes played and practiced. George asked me to caddie for Moe once when he was just going out for a round. I’m guessing Mr Clifton knew that I was eager, but Moe not so much, he wanted to carry his own bag. But I did shag balls for Moe. The practice tee at PV was elevated above the landing area by about 50 feet which should have made any mishits go farther offline, but I never imagined shagging balls could be so easy. Just put the empty shag bag between my feet and caught each ball on the first bounce! When he changed clubs and I moved back I adjusted my distance after his first shot and then caught each ball again on the bounce. I didn’t really appreciate at the time that there may not have been any golfer in the world who could do that.
I caddied on his foursome at Burlington He did a clinic after the round . I can confirm. His caddie simply moved to where he wad told and presto one bounce to the bag. Didnt at the time know how ridiculous that was!
Cool story; I grew up 250 yards from the pro shop door at DeHavilland and unfortunately never got to see Moe hit balls there. and went to Bayview to take a lesson with George Clifton. Only started playing serious golf when I was in my late 40's.
This is so good @Trevor Stymie. The footage is incredible, have no idea how you got that example of a young Moe teeing off, I have only seen the blurry version. Moe fans gonna love this.
Thank you for the kind words Teddy! I actually lucked out with that footage. A fine gentleman named Larry posted a home video of Young Moe swinging on TH-cam. Search "Moe Norman & Sam Snead 1957 Lakeview Golf," and you'll find it! Take care.
I competed as a junior growing up in Ontario, Canada. I learned early on if you went to the driving range after the awards banquet Moe would often be there, unannounced. I got to know him a little bit as a teenager because I went to range after every single event. I hung out with him at the Canadian Open one year and he dragged me under the ropes and onto the range to give Gary Player a driver lesson. He was more excited than anyone about all of it.
Nice documentary about Moe. Used to see him in the coffee shop at Carlisle Golf Club in Ontario. Guys in the pro shop told me he didn't like to be bothered by people in the morning there so I respected his space. Watched him open the trunk to his Cadillac one time and it appeared to be full of drivers. Wish I had actually seen him play. But everyone knew who he was.
Many years ago I was golfing at the Kitchener Rockway golf course , it was a TOYOTA company golf tournament, when sitting down to eat dinner I noticed everyone talking about this man sitting on a picnic table , I asked who is that… I hear that’s moe norman… a Canadian great that most people have never heard of… me included .. long story short, I go outside and have an interesting conversation with the man, pick up his putter and joke about it being ancient :) definitely an interesting conversation…and the best part of the whole thing; I got his autograph on a club card, and a handshake. After that day I read up on him and learned as much about him as I could at the time … P.S …He did drive a really nice Cadillac
I think Kitchener should honor Moe Norman in the slightest. Most people who have lived in Kitchener for 40-plus years haven't even heard of the guy. Just like most people didn't know that Kitchener was once called Berlin.
@chipztheape5372 I love Rockway! I worked at Grand Valley Country Club for about 10 years and didn't know he was from Kitchener. I felt stupid when I found out after moving to Saskatchewan.
@@integralmalfunction I only found out because I stumbled on upon a room dedicated to him at rockway and was thinking "who's this chump?" Then I looked him up..
Well! That was an unexpected treat, eh!? Good, honest work. And you didn't stink up the place by dealing charmingly with Graves, Kuykendall, etc. Thanks. By the way, I never saw Moe at the range or on the course, but I did see his ghost at the Olympic Club Lake Course fourteen years ago. He was eating the famous hamburgers in a hot dog bun, six of them, with a quart of coke. I don't know how he ate them since he did not have a corporeal form, but that's Moe for you!
Moe continues to surprise us, doesn't he? Yeah, that whole Graves, Kuykendall, etc., teaching of his swing can get people heated. Appreciate the comment, and I'm glad you enjoyed it. Cheers.
Read his autobiography what a lovely man great golfer, and so misunderstood. In a way I'm glad he never mix it with the PGA. Look at what happened in the masters. Legend love him I urge you to learn as much as you can about Mo you will not believe how good he was,and what a lovely human being
I have his autograph, which took a bit of prodding, writing was not his forte. I was working for Mr Palmer at the time, and when I mentioned that, he got wide eyed and Yes or course! - watched him hitting balls at that 1995 Orlando Golf show, just amazing. -- The autograph was deliberate and a scratched unsteady scrawl. It's my Mona Lisa of autographs
chamblee needs to put a sock in it. and btw it was dow fitzerwald and tommy bolt that cornered Moe and cussed him in the locker-room. i find it interesting that Moe was a standard Vardon grip (with strong right hand) in his prime but switched to the palms 10 finger to assuage jack kuykendall's method, and made it work. and now todd graves is teaching the Moe swing with standard grips although with a very strong lower hand.
Did you catch at the 25minute mark Moe says a palm and finger grip on the left hand and STRICTLY a finger grip on the right hand. I found this confusing as I always felt he did the exact opposite. Teachings are always the grip in the palm of the right hand , down the life line.
@@oldguilder yeah that was just for the jack kuykendall "natural golf method" thing, and Moe hardly had 1/2 the length of his swing remaining, but made it work. when the SI article came out and also the natural golf videos of course i thought the 10 finger palms thing was a must and tied myself in knots on the practice range, LOL! ditched it and went to Vardon with strong right hand and it clicked for me. the lateral move is what drives this swing but beware of overly trying to square the face down the line because you'll fail and wreck your back. it is a feeling but not a fact that the face squares down the line long after impact.
@@oldguilder yeah. moe would say anything later in life for those jack kuykendall "natural golf" videos which moe was being paid for on top of his $5000 a month Titelist money.
The grip Todd teaches is so due to the bodies side bend,it’s perfect due to body position. Non rotational position,don’t knock it before you understand it and why it works.
Moe was a leader personality with a simple way of doing things, he used this talent in life and golf to become the best in Golf!!! I know this because a close friend of mine with a nicked named "Mac" golfed with Moe many many times at Harbour View Golf in Gilford Ontario
Early on good golfers would ask him golf questions, Moe would answer: "Moe knows!" But Moe was very hard to play with very very fast, sometime out of turn, he could not wait to hit it out of the bunker sometimes with group ahead still on the green (on National TV even). It was because he could not control the lie and his stance and set up didn't always fit the sand shot requirred. Also he hit it in the bunker about once a year.
That's why he was a savant. It can work well though. Todd Graves teaches it and gets good results with his students, but yeah very few high level players choose this method except Bryson DeChambeau.
I knew Moe well, and I was quite aware of what I was seeing. I knew he was a historic figure and his legacy would be ongoing.... even though he was pretty much broke and living out of his car, for the most part... at the time. Things got better for him as the years went on. It's great to see he is properly appreciated in the game. I can assure one thing however, he would not be happy with the direction the game has gone.
I hope they do make a movie about his life and put it on the big screen….He def was an eccentric character..and as such , I tend to believe the stories…
Moe Norman essentially created a much higher swing plane than normal by having his hands farther away from his body and higher (which made it easier for him to swing on plane) and then took a 3/4 backswing. It's really not that complicated. You end up being more consistent with a shorter backswing because there's less timing involved. The problem with his swing is that unless you're a decent sized person or have really good swing speed you're going to hit it pretty short. Moe was a fairly robust individual so it worked well for him.
@@jerryinsc He was a pretty big, strong guy so I'm sure he had enough distance to make this swing work but the truth is most people don't. It's not a good swing to teach or to try to emulate.
@@jerryinsc Without a significant amount of strength you simply aren't going to hit the ball anywhere with the one plane swing Moe Norman used. This is why not one other player in history has ever used it. Bryson's swing was somewhat similar but he has a much longer backswing. Show me one player out there making money with Moe Norman's swing. Good luck.
Moe's way of playing was the most invaluable lesson one could find, when you found yourself, as so many do, getting in your own way. "KISS"> I Know it well. "Keep It Simple, Stupid". Who ever those two PGA people were, they're damn lucky their names never became known.
Your introduction does a great disservice to this man. Moe never drank and very rarely associated with women ,so portraying him as you do in the introductory photo is disrespectful to an extraordinary man and golfer.
Luckily the vast majority of people understand the image is merely a metaphorical device. You disrespect others by assuming they're stupid enough to form an opinion of this man from a cover image. I don't need your help but would be interested to watch the wonderful content that you created on this man .... but you didn't.
Moe simplied suffer from something many amateurs do but to a totally different degree. Working on ur swing is important and being a great ball striker is sexy, but putting and short game is what wins. Period.
We only have a few examples of him on the US tour to gauge how well he would have done and he took 4th in his last tournament so I could easily see him winning on Tour if given time. He won plenty in Canada and set an ungodly amount of course records against great players so he knew how to win. He just didn't end up getting enough opportunities on the PGA to gain the confidence he needed. If Moe would have found more support on tour, I sure he could have putted well enough to be a top player considering how accurate he was from tee to green.
This is completely inaccurate. Putting is significantly less important when it comes to winning golf tournaments. Only 1 of the top 5 putters on the PGA tour are ranked in the top 100 and they have 0 combined wins this season. All 5 of the best ball strikers are ranked inside the top 20 with 3 being ranked 1st,2nd and 3rd in the world. They also have combined for 10 wins this year. The saying should be drive for dough putt for show because ball striking is more important to success in golf tournaments.
This man knew he was that damn good and didn’t care what anyone thought about him that’s why he’s my hero.
Yeah man, he really didn't. Thanks for the comment
One of the things I regret was never seeing Moe strike balls.
I got interested in golf later than most, by chance I saw a Natural Golf Infomercial, and saw Moe .
Though I never really grasped personally the NG swing as the taught at the time.
There are some parts of it that stayed with me.
I LOVE Moe Norman. Fabulous golfer. He kept refining his game late into his life. Moe adopted a new swing style he learned from Manuel De Latores. He was a true forward thinker when it came to golf. I have styled my game after Moe. Playing advanced players and winning the rounds is my testament to Moe's influence. I read watch and listen to everything I can find on him. Moe once said I wonder if anyone thinks about me...well I certainly will never let his name go unmentioned. I always give my games success to this wonderful man. RiP Moe your gone but NEVER forgotten!!!Thank you this video.
@@kathrynleaser5093 Likewise, here. Moe gets the credit and I get the benefits. :)
@@kathrynleaser5093 I agree with you. Moe is the King of golf in my book too. I know that the Oklahoma boys who teach Moe's method is gaining momentum because just yesterday I saw someone else that had their training aids on the driving range. Moe's swing method will continue to gain ground in the world of golf.
Moe used to hit balls at my club north of Toronto. He would show up on a Saturday morning and announce he was giving a clinic. (no one was aware of this except him). the members would gather around on the range to watch. We would all throw a 20$ bill on the ground beside his bag. He would make 400-500$ in a couple of hours. We would tee off, finish our rounds, have lunch, and Moe would still be hitting balls at the range. The club pros and assistants took care of him and made sure he knew he was welcome to stop by anywhere and any time. A legend!
Great story. Thank you for sharing
My grandparents were members at Westmount Golf and Country Club for over 50 years. My grandmother used to help out Moe many times. She never told me any of this until I met him in the pro shop. Moe recognized my grandmother and called her by first name. I was stupefied. He was more than just a phenomenal golfer
Really cool story thank you for sharing that
Who were the bullies than discouraged Moe?
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@@mickeysealtoe9719 Can you imagine how much inflation we will have if Harris gets elected? We are screwed if she has her way.
Because of a physical disability I have an odd, self taught swing. As a kid 35 years ago, someone said to me you swing like Moe Norman (I hit the ball pretty straight) I looked him up. From that point on he became my favorite golfer. I would tell people "don't watch my swing, watch the ball" and just smile! 😁
At 65, I was ready to give up golf due to back pain. I adopted this swing via the Graves Academy and can now play, pain-free. Over 100 rounds this season, a 6 handicap on a 6300 yd. course and I thank Moe Norman for giving me back my favourite pass time. Whenever I stray, on the course, I just say to myself; "How would Moe hit this?" and it gets the job done. Thanks, Trevor, for an excellent documentary.
That awesome! I'm glad that your self-determination, Moe's swing, and help from Graves have provided you with the pain-free ability to play this game we all love. Here's to more low rounds!
I was hitting balls on a range at Pinehurst years ago and found myself hitting next to Moe Norman. He was bouncing balls off the 150 sign on the range. He stoped hitting and went into the clubhouse for lunch. I knew that this was an incredible opportunity and went in and asked him if I could join him. He said "sure, love to have you" so, I sat there and asked him many questions. One of my questions was about his greatest round in his opinion. He was difficult to understand and I though he said 6 or 60 something but I asked him to speak slowly for me and his best round according to him was hitting six flagsticks on his approach shots. I asked him what he shot and he said "who cares", I hit six flag sticks". Just think about that!! How many have you hit in your life?
Great story thank you for sharing.
Moe was good friends with a pro I took lessons from. I got to meet him a few times and he was a great person. I also got to know Harvey Ward and got some short game lessons from him! To me both in their own way were gentlemen! Harvey was an icon here in Pinehurst.
That is a great fake story bud
Another Troll with nothing better to do. Thank you but living and working in Pinehurst almost 30 years has it's perks. I was also there at the Pinecrest Inn when Payne Stewart signed the men's room wall (over the door) the week he won the US Open! but you'll think that's fake too! Get a life troll
It is completely true. That is what he told me. i met him a few other times since I lived in Southern Pines and was a member of Pinehurst CC. He past through every year going to and returning from Florida in the winter. I don't need you to believe it. It is my experience and I have no need for your approval. I could care less what you believe. BTW, it is well known that he played many rounds with George Knudsen and the only way to win a hole was to hit a flagstick on an approach.@@ben1ben2ben1
Never heard of this man, after this I have a feeling I’ll never forget him. Thank you 👍🏾
He truly is unforgettable. Thanks for the comment!
He put on a lot of golf exhibitions in southern Ontario Canada. He was a good friend of Cliff Thorburn.
Living under a golf rock?
It's hard to argue when so many legendary tour pros sing Moe Norman's praises. 🤷♂
Thry just pitied him
I once played against a veteran with one arm. He couldn’t hit the ball far, but he hit it straight. He adjusted his game for this and his short game was outstanding. He could chip the ball to within a foot or two of the hole. Any time he got the ball within about eight feet of the hole, that ball was going in. This guy played in the mid seventies consistently. I was very impressed by his ability to overcome his disability.
One of the greatest sportsmen the world has ever seen. Excellent documentary, thank you.
Thank you for the comment!
Thank you for keeping Moe ALIVE in your video !
The amount of work you put into these videos deserves the utmost respect. Thank you🧡
I don’t think Trevor was the producer. He simply posted it.
In 1994, my 30 year old handicap of 20 went to a 12 in 6 months after learning the single plane swing of Jack Kirkendahl’s Natural Golf. This significant improvement garnered an invitation to teach this ‘new to me’ golf swing. But I digress.
In late 1993, some youngster stole the woods from my bag as it sat at the bag drop. In January of ‘94, my bartender told me of this golf company, Natural Golf, right here in my town. When I went to see their golf clubs, I was shown a 15 minute video of Moe Norman and his golf swing. I took a series of lessons from Natural Golf’s teaching pro, Tony Portell. Later that year I met Moe when Natural Golf brought him to Bartlett, IL Over the next 10 years, my game and swing improved significantly due to the lessons I learned from Moe himself. By 1998, thanks to Moe’s lesson in left arm control, my handicap dropped to a respectable 6. I’m still teaching around Indianapolis with a 94% approval rating. Thanks, Moe.
Thanks for the comment! Great story about Natural Golf
Well done. I caddied at Bay of Quinte Golf Club years ago for my Club Pro, Moe was there. When asked by someone about how he lines up putts, he said ‘every putt is straight’. Actually makes sense, he just aimed left or right and hit it straight.
Being a Canadian golf nut, I know quite a bit about Moe and am also attempting to swing as much like him as possible... with very little success I might add 🙂
I was blown away by your level of detail, showing how much preparation and research you must've done to prepare this video.
It was absolutely fantastic! Thank you very much for this.
I figured this was my one chance to do something on Moe, so I may as well make it as good as I currently can. I appreciate the comment, the kind words and wish you lots of success with your golf game.
Cheers
As a young man, I remember that I was always pulling for Moe. Yes he was different, but that was endearing to me at the time. Thank you for bringing back memories of this underrated golfer.
Thank you for the comment and brief story!
For golf aficionados he is not underrated. Many golfing greats recognize him as one of the greatest ball strikers of all time, i.e. Tiger Woods, Lee Trevino, Jack Nicklaus. He wasn’t the greatest putter, a part of his game he didn’t find interesting.
What a class move by Titleist. They obviously looked beyond the eccentricities to the man & his golf.
That's why I l9ve titleist!!
Moe was the only golfer they ever measured at Titleist who zero side spin.
I absolutely admire this great goat . What a labor of love he's done for golf. I dropped 10 strokes from my game in a week just following his down right simple approach to the game
Mahalo nui loa Mr. Norman
Love to hear that. Thanks for the comment my friend
This was a really nice documentary! Thanks for treating it with such care
Thank you so much for that wonderful insight to Moe and his life ❤
I am proud to say I met him 3 times. One time was an exhibition event for junior golfers at the range at Angus Glen Golf. What a great souvenir. 😊
Great story and what a blessing to meet and watch him hit golf balls. All the best!
@@TrevorStymie Cliff Thorburn and my father played a lot of rounds of golf with him.
Very well researched documentary Trevor! I grew up a 10 minute bicycle ride from the Dehaviland golf Centre mostly playing the par 3 course. But later my dad was a member at Pine Valley (now The National built on its lands) and worked in the pro shop as a student for George Clifton. Mr Clifton, and the owner Jack Bailey always welcomed Moe to Pine Valley where he sometimes played and practiced. George asked me to caddie for Moe once when he was just going out for a round. I’m guessing Mr Clifton knew that I was eager, but Moe not so much, he wanted to carry his own bag. But I did shag balls for Moe. The practice tee at PV was elevated above the landing area by about 50 feet which should have made any mishits go farther offline, but I never imagined shagging balls could be so easy. Just put the empty shag bag between my feet and caught each ball on the first bounce! When he changed clubs and I moved back I adjusted my distance after his first shot and then caught each ball again on the bounce. I didn’t really appreciate at the time that there may not have been any golfer in the world who could do that.
That’s nuts man - Catching the balls on one hop.
Would love to have seen that.
That's a great story, and thank you for sharing it. I appreciate the comment and the kind words! All the best.
I caddied on his foursome at Burlington
He did a clinic after the round . I can confirm. His caddie simply moved to where he wad told and presto one bounce to the bag. Didnt at the time know how ridiculous that was!
Cool story; I grew up 250 yards from the pro shop door at DeHavilland and unfortunately never got to see Moe hit balls there. and went to Bayview to take a lesson with George Clifton. Only started playing serious golf when I was in my late 40's.
Terrifically well researched and put together as usual Trevor!
Thank you! Appreciate you taking the time to watch and comment. All the best.
The feeling of greatness! Rest in peace!! I love you Moe!!!
Moe Norman never died... He still lives in our hearts.
Probably the greatest character in golf of all time.
Appreciate the comment. I can agree with that.
Had the privilege of meeting him a few times in the early 80's at my buddies dad's golf course, he was a very unique man for sure!!
Truly amazing video of one amazing man!!! What a LEGEND Moe Norman became...and the pros were in genuine awe of him & still are!🤴🏻
Wow, this guy was EPIC! Absolutely love his attitude. great video, thank you!
Thanks, brother. Appreciate the support and comment! His mindset was truly something special
This is so good @Trevor Stymie. The footage is incredible, have no idea how you got that example of a young Moe teeing off, I have only seen the blurry version. Moe fans gonna love this.
Thank you for the kind words Teddy! I actually lucked out with that footage. A fine gentleman named Larry posted a home video of Young Moe swinging on TH-cam. Search "Moe Norman & Sam Snead 1957 Lakeview Golf," and you'll find it! Take care.
@@TrevorStymie have you ever seen Jimmy Bruen swing or heard about his story? I think you could do that story justice.
I competed as a junior growing up in Ontario, Canada. I learned early on if you went to the driving range after the awards banquet Moe would often be there, unannounced. I got to know him a little bit as a teenager because I went to range after every single event. I hung out with him at the Canadian Open one year and he dragged me under the ropes and onto the range to give Gary Player a driver lesson. He was more excited than anyone about all of it.
Amazing story! Thank you for sharing. All the best.
I met him at a golf course in florida . He was using a killer bee club back then. What a nice guy.
Thanks for the comment. Great to hear from people who met him in person.
Excellent work on this documentary. I really enjoyed it. Thank you!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great documentary, testimonial to someone who embodied what is best about golf, you are free to play it your way. RIP Amazing Golfer.
Nice documentary about Moe. Used to see him in the coffee shop at Carlisle Golf Club in Ontario. Guys in the pro shop told me he didn't like to be bothered by people in the morning there so I respected his space. Watched him open the trunk to his Cadillac one time and it appeared to be full of drivers. Wish I had actually seen him play. But everyone knew who he was.
Many years ago I was golfing at the Kitchener Rockway golf course , it was a TOYOTA company golf tournament, when sitting down to eat dinner I noticed everyone talking about this man sitting on a picnic table , I asked who is that… I hear that’s moe norman… a Canadian great that most people have never heard of… me included .. long story short, I go outside and have an interesting conversation with the man, pick up his putter and joke about it being ancient :) definitely an interesting conversation…and the best part of the whole thing; I got his autograph on a club card, and a handshake. After that day I read up on him and learned as much about him as I could at the time …
P.S …He did drive a really nice Cadillac
seriously we are all unique but the one and only Mo took it to the next level Mo a legend in his life time and beyond forever
Well said
Wow some of the footage you have in this video is great. I been searching for live video for a long time of Moe. Love to see more of him and Sneed.
Moe Norman did a clinic at Don Valley Golf Course and hit a bucket of 7-iron shots into a hula hoop
I think Kitchener should honor Moe Norman in the slightest. Most people who have lived in Kitchener for 40-plus years haven't even heard of the guy. Just like most people didn't know that Kitchener was once called Berlin.
I frequently play rockway golf course in Kitchener and only was awae of Moe Norman about a year ago.
@chipztheape5372 I love Rockway! I worked at Grand Valley Country Club for about 10 years and didn't know he was from Kitchener. I felt stupid when I found out after moving to Saskatchewan.
@@integralmalfunction I only found out because I stumbled on upon a room dedicated to him at rockway and was thinking "who's this chump?" Then I looked him up..
Most people know about Kitchener Leslie though
@@ElliottPrice77There is a room in the clubhouse dedicated to Moe with his memorabilia and pictures!
Every once and a while you come across something amazing on the tubes!! Thanks for sharing this. AWESOME story gonna look for the movie.
This is the best video I've seen on Moe Normans life, loved it.
Thanks for this great video. ⛳️
Thanks for the comment! Glad you enjoyed it
We’ll done times eternity! God bless you and thank you for honoring a true Golf Legend … Moe Norman!! ⛳️⛳️⛳️
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This man was a genius… I was very inconsistent and found natural golf which helped/helps me a ton and I owe a lot to Norman, thank you Sir….
This was incredible well produced!
Awesome video/documentary! Thanks so much for sharing! Very cool! RIP Moe......
Brilliant
Cheers mate
Instead of just liking. I subbed. This editing was amazing
Moe is proof that winning golf tournaments is more than just being a great golfer.
Rest in peace Moe. Enjoy the greens and fairways up above.
Enough to bring a tear to a grown man's eye
Well! That was an unexpected treat, eh!? Good, honest work. And you didn't stink up the place by dealing charmingly with Graves, Kuykendall, etc. Thanks. By the way, I never saw Moe at the range or on the course, but I did see his ghost at the Olympic Club Lake Course fourteen years ago. He was eating the famous hamburgers in a hot dog bun, six of them, with a quart of coke. I don't know how he ate them since he did not have a corporeal form, but that's Moe for you!
Moe continues to surprise us, doesn't he? Yeah, that whole Graves, Kuykendall, etc., teaching of his swing can get people heated. Appreciate the comment, and I'm glad you enjoyed it. Cheers.
I always enjoy anything Moe Norman….thanks for the video
Read his autobiography what a lovely man great golfer, and so misunderstood. In a way I'm glad he never mix it with the PGA. Look at what happened in the masters. Legend love him I urge you to learn as much as you can about Mo you will not believe how good he was,and what a lovely human being
Great comment. Thanks for that.
You had me at Moe Norman.
hahaha
I have his autograph, which took a bit of prodding, writing was not his forte. I was working for Mr Palmer at the time, and when I mentioned that, he got wide eyed and Yes or course! - watched him hitting balls at that 1995 Orlando Golf show, just amazing. -- The autograph was deliberate and a scratched unsteady scrawl. It's my Mona Lisa of autographs
Great story and an awesome piece of golf history to have. Thanks for sharing
Great video brother 💯😎
Thank you my friend
This is a well presented account of Moe Norman.
Hay Dad , Moe is on the phone ! Yep that happened. Brantford Ontario
Moe is a 🇨🇦 legend
chamblee needs to put a sock in it. and btw it was dow fitzerwald and tommy bolt that cornered Moe and cussed him in the locker-room. i find it interesting that Moe was a standard Vardon grip (with strong right hand) in his prime but switched to the palms 10 finger to assuage jack kuykendall's method, and made it work. and now todd graves is teaching the Moe swing with standard grips although with a very strong lower hand.
Appreciate the comment and yeah, somebody else was saying Tommy as well. Cheers mate.
Did you catch at the 25minute mark Moe says a palm and finger grip on the left hand and STRICTLY a finger grip on the right hand. I found this confusing as I always felt he did the exact opposite. Teachings are always the grip in the palm of the right hand , down the life line.
@@oldguilder yeah that was just for the jack kuykendall "natural golf method" thing, and Moe hardly had 1/2 the length of his swing remaining, but made it work. when the SI article came out and also the natural golf videos of course i thought the 10 finger palms thing was a must and tied myself in knots on the practice range, LOL! ditched it and went to Vardon with strong right hand and it clicked for me. the lateral move is what drives this swing but beware of overly trying to square the face down the line because you'll fail and wreck your back. it is a feeling but not a fact that the face squares down the line long after impact.
@@oldguilder yeah. moe would say anything later in life for those jack kuykendall "natural golf" videos which moe was being paid for on top of his $5000 a month Titelist money.
The grip Todd teaches is so due to the bodies side bend,it’s perfect due to body position. Non rotational position,don’t knock it before you understand it and why it works.
Moe was a leader personality with a simple way of doing things, he used this talent in life and golf to become the best in Golf!!! I know this because
a close friend of mine with a nicked named "Mac" golfed with Moe many many times at Harbour View Golf in Gilford Ontario
Excellent
Watched him do a clinic in the early 90's in Northen Ontario. Unreal skill.
Great to hear! Thanks for the comment
Early on good golfers would ask him golf questions, Moe would answer: "Moe knows!"
But Moe was very hard to play with very very fast, sometime out of turn, he could not wait to hit it out of the bunker sometimes with group ahead still on the green (on National TV even). It was because he could not control the lie and his stance and set up didn't always fit the sand shot requirred. Also he hit it in the bunker about once a year.
great video. can't believe you only have 2k subs.. thanks for putting this together. what a legend
Wow what a great story. Hadn’t heard of Moe, but a legend he was. Greetings from🦘🦘🦘🦘
This is freaking nuts. Noone on tour does this.
Bryson Dechambeau
That's why he was a savant. It can work well though. Todd Graves teaches it and gets good results with his students, but yeah very few high level players choose this method except Bryson DeChambeau.
God's gift to golf. God Bless Him.
Thanks for the comment
Great story!
Best video of Moe I've ever seen.
Thanks my friend
I knew Moe well, and I was quite aware of what I was seeing. I knew he was a historic figure and his legacy would be ongoing.... even though he was pretty much broke and living out of his car, for the most part... at the time. Things got better for him as the years went on. It's great to see he is properly appreciated in the game. I can assure one thing however, he would not be happy with the direction the game has gone.
Thank you for the comment, and I bet you have some awesome stories. That's a good point too, with how he would feel with where the game went. Cheers
Thanks!
Thank you Batman! I Appreciate you.
@@TrevorStymie you’re welcome!!
Great video. Thank you!
When is the movie out? Can't wait. ❤
I believe filming doesn't truly start till 2024, so it'll be awhile.
Well made, Trevor: thanks. Subbed.
Amazing man
Lloyd Tucker was my Great Uncle....awesome golfer himself!! 😊
30 tournaments in a year eh. Not bad given Canada’s summer only lasts 12 days 😜😜
hahaha you're not far off
@@TrevorStymie 😂
The real goat of ball striking
Greetingsfrom Denmark - I search for all godo stuff about Moe on the internet - this a good job on Moe's history
Greetings! Thank you for the comment my friend from Denmark.
I hope they do make a movie about his life and put it on the big screen….He def was an eccentric character..and as such , I tend to believe the stories…
Great Trevor. Great story
Thank you! appreciate the comment,
My golf hero
Moe Norman essentially created a much higher swing plane than normal by having his hands farther away from his body and higher (which made it easier for him to swing on plane) and then took a 3/4 backswing. It's really not that complicated. You end up being more consistent with a shorter backswing because there's less timing involved. The problem with his swing is that unless you're a decent sized person or have really good swing speed you're going to hit it pretty short. Moe was a fairly robust individual so it worked well for him.
@@jerryinsc He was a pretty big, strong guy so I'm sure he had enough distance to make this swing work but the truth is most people don't. It's not a good swing to teach or to try to emulate.
@@jerryinsc Without a significant amount of strength you simply aren't going to hit the ball anywhere with the one plane swing Moe Norman used. This is why not one other player in history has ever used it. Bryson's swing was somewhat similar but he has a much longer backswing. Show me one player out there making money with Moe Norman's swing. Good luck.
Moe wasn't that big. 5'7" or so, I think.@@joeldriver-sp2rg
@@hrned You could see he is athletic and strong even as a senior and a bit overweight.
Moe's way of playing was the most invaluable lesson one could find, when you found yourself, as so many do, getting in your own way.
"KISS"> I Know it well. "Keep It Simple, Stupid".
Who ever those two PGA people were, they're damn lucky their names never became known.
Enjoyed watching, one of the greats .
Your introduction does a great disservice to this man. Moe never drank and very rarely associated with women ,so portraying him as you do in the introductory photo is disrespectful to an extraordinary man and golfer.
Agree 💯
Luckily the vast majority of people understand the image is merely a metaphorical device. You disrespect others by assuming they're stupid enough to form an opinion of this man from a cover image. I don't need your help but would be interested to watch the wonderful content that you created on this man .... but you didn't.
Wah.
It’s a spoof of a beer commercial. Not an indictment on his character. Both of your frustrations are covered in the video.
@@reilly-vc1rm meh
Best one on Moe that I have seen.
That was fun to watch.
Appreciate the comment and I'm glad you enjoyed it.
Great job on this thoroughly enjoyed it!
Great video. 👍
Sandy Lyle (Masters winner) later in his career switched to "natural golf". I believe that is similar to Moe's technique
This is a great great video
You really get the feeling that a lot of golfers despise people who don't come from money. Absolutely sickening.
Moe simplied suffer from something many amateurs do but to a totally different degree. Working on ur swing is important and being a great ball striker is sexy, but putting and short game is what wins. Period.
Appreciate the comment
We only have a few examples of him on the US tour to gauge how well he would have done and he took 4th in his last tournament so I could easily see him winning on Tour if given time. He won plenty in Canada and set an ungodly amount of course records against great players so he knew how to win. He just didn't end up getting enough opportunities on the PGA to gain the confidence he needed. If Moe would have found more support on tour, I sure he could have putted well enough to be a top player considering how accurate he was from tee to green.
This is completely inaccurate. Putting is significantly less important when it comes to winning golf tournaments. Only 1 of the top 5 putters on the PGA tour are ranked in the top 100 and they have 0 combined wins this season. All 5 of the best ball strikers are ranked inside the top 20 with 3 being ranked 1st,2nd and 3rd in the world. They also have combined for 10 wins this year. The saying should be drive for dough putt for show because ball striking is more important to success in golf tournaments.
Well done, thank you!
Kitchener?? I hear there’s a mean ole railroad cop who lives there! Those railroad cops have a law all their own…
Love the title because it’s so true.
Interesting. Thx.