Moe's a great teacher for young kids to establish a great set of fundamentals about ball striking. Having said that, Moe was an eccentric type guy with the best of intentions, but incorrect in that all the PGA Champions win NOT hitting the ball entirely like him. Moe strikes the goofball with perfection, but the PGA Tour guys do, as well. You don't shoot 58's, 61's, 62's & 63's swinging a bad club. So, much respect to Moe, but Larry, Curly, Shemp & Joe say he's great -- but only in his own mind.
I too had the great fortune to watch Moe give clinics on five occasions. He never “warmed up”; he just started hitting balls, everyone straight and perfect. Moe Norman was incredible❗️😮😳😄
@@eyesopen9477 Hitting it 250+ with balata balls and persimmon woods is most definitely power......especially when it's straight every time, and that's what he did most his life.
Well at 8:28 Moe says he could hit 500 balls and never get dirt 1 piece of dirt on the toe of his club 25 seconds later at 8:53 he is wiping dirt of the toe of his club 🤣
This man was a true Genius.I loved watching videos of this man talk golf and swing like he was just taking a breath. So natural and smooth. The PGA should have a Trophy ( award) with his name.
"pure it any better than that and ill eat your hat" !!! The best absolutely the freaking best "certainly" . A national treasure, thankful these videos exist!
I thank you for keeping golf legend Moe Norman’s golf legacy alive that I was able to watch him always delivers his “feeling of greatness perfect golf swing that made him the best ball striker of all times! That overtime only watching (without listening to whatever he was saying) him I was able to see and discover the “invisible essentials” or “master moves” of his perfect golf swing!!!!!!! Cheers folks
I mean, this guy is just so flattered by himself to the point where even he can’t believe it! Never saw or heard about him but a big fan now ❤ Genius with an entertaining personality. Wish I had met him in person
"A feeling of greatness. I'm the only golfer in the world, that's got the feeling of greatness! The only one living!" - Luv this guy!! I wish I had his indomitable feeling of motivation and optimism!
I’ve always been fascinated with these kinds of savants! Everything I’ve loved from skateboarding to golf, has a special Moe Norman in the mix. They change everything and most people don’t even realize it! ❤️
"Here's the master move. A feeling of greatness. I'm the only golfer in the world that gots the felling of greatness. The only one living. Feeling of greatness. Right here. OAAA. That pure. oooo!"
I have watched this video for many times already, it is like a swing reference book that I will come back to it again and again, and on top of that, Mr. Moe Norman is such a lovely human being😊
This dude is "swing your swing" personified. Did everything completely different than what conventional advice tells us and still not only made it work but made it work so well that many modern golfers are forced to recognize the greatness of the single plane swing. RIP sir
Moe was a savant. There are no "single plane swing" major winners. One may argue that DeChambeau has a similar method, but not really. Moe's technique can't be taught or learned, just like Einstein's theories can't be originated by other scientists, nor can Beethoven's creativity be taught to others.
When was the last time you made a putt Moe? Moe: I don't remember. I'm just a ball striker with no PGA wins. I couldn't win at that level". Proof that you drive to show and putt for $doe>
@@joemarks3719 Moe was apparently a great ball striker. But I have heard that about so many pros. But the bottom line is how many pro tournaments did you win? The short game is what makes or breaks. so shooting 59 3xs doesn't mean squat if you didn't win. The guy NEVER won on the PGA. No need to reply. I know you never won on the tour.
When I watched the Moe Normon program about his life I was shocked and hurt for him at the treatment he recieved from other PGA professionals who literally drove him from the tour, where I believe he would have won a very high %ge of tourney's. Also when I heard Titliest presented Moe with a $ 5K a month stipend for supporting their products his entire life, wonderful stuff.
Not the most modest of men, to be certain. Enough so that he rubbed his fellow competitors the wrong way. Until they finally ostracized him from the tour. Yet, onlly Ben Hogan knew as much about the golf swing as Moe Norman. A pure genius of simplicity. From the wider base for more balance, to standing further away so he could extend his arms better. His right hand grip is also contrary to what is taught. Out of the fingers and into the palm for greater feel. And no twisting in the right hand whatsoever!! I would say his Number One Move though is placing the club at least four to six inches behind the ball at address. There are too many advantages to this to count. As he said it eliminates a full foot of the swing. It takes the club back straighter and slower. It opens the rear shoulder at address for greater turn at the outset. It takes the club back lower to create a similar swing arc as well. Other than that it's not that good!! One subtle, final aspect of his swing that you will notice is he had almost no bend in his knees at address. Whether this was right or wrong, his posture never changed. If your knees don't bend its impossible to have an inconsistent setup in your legs. Every variable, every dumb thing a player could do in his swing was eliminated. His only weakness was he constantly reminded everyone exactly how great he was. Players that good don't like to be reminded how much better he was than them. Even if it was true! Moe Norman was an almost unparalleled genius. A fact he was keenly aware of. And he made certain others knew it as well.
@donaldschmidt2990 yes he let everyone know for sure how great he was…and he was! I knew him relatively well and hit many balls with him one on one. There’s no doubt he was misunderstood all his life so as he got older you could sense he was frustrated in that no one ever tried to learn from him. He felt the world wasn’t taking notice and being older he wanted his voice to be heard about his methods. To leave a legacy. He obviously couldn’t teach it in the traditional sense of the word. Up here in eastern Canada (specifically Ontario and Quebec) he would tour and put on dozens of clinics as a means to make ends meat. He almost had a mythical folklore type status about him at that time. We can thank Mark Evershed (PGA of Canada like myself) and Lorne Rubenstein for getting the word out about Moe. We already knew up here what a living legend he was and thankfully Golf Digest came out with him on the cover in December 95. The rest is history.
This video of moe norman on single plane easy than two plane swing. I think everything golfer should try different things, one swing only. Golf is always changing. Thank you for this video awesome !!!
He was comfortable and at ease with children. Very wary of adults. He had few adult friends. To meet or speak with Moe one was introduced to him by his friends. I always felt he was exploited by Natural Golf. His nature was childlike and very sensitive. Most likely due to some form of autism. Difficult to know exactly. Truly unique human being. Never saw him without a club in his hands. If not a club then he would hold a ball or two. I have a picture of me standing next to him. A treasured remembrance of this man. R.I.P. Moe.
I tried this at the range tonight, felt funny for 3 or 4 shots, but then it sunk in and I was hitting laser straight drives, flying 30 yds further than it rolled before. Genius
Bryson knows this is Gold and now has made us take a closer look at some of the aspects of Moe's swing. Moe is truly a golf genius. Thank you for this video.
Bryson did try using Moe’s swing years ago, but it hurt his back. So he stands much closer with the club more upright and turns much more actively than Moe did.
Been watching this video since it first came out on TH-cam. Always learn something new. I knew Moe from way back. (I'm almost 80.) What they) don't tell you is Moe was gifted with incredible coordination. What that means is simple: what you see here is NOT that simple. That's why you rarely find a golfer who has success with his single-plane swing, even after sometimes days of practice. THE HARDEST THING TO DO IN GOLF IS TO HIT THE BALL STRAIGHT. He did it without even trying, and for hours on end. But another thing they don't tell you is that he also could do it with any kind of swing out there. But it's fun trying. Until, that is, it becomes apparent that most people just can't do what he did, period. In any case, good luck.
Moe was the only one who could hit it perfect setup as he did. There are much easier ways to swing for those who want to swing a club on a single plane. Even Moe said "swing like you, not like me"
"I lose distance but I'm dead straight" THIS is what made Moe so great. He had his ego in check. Everybody always tries to hit the ball as hard and far as they physically can. It might go a long way, but a long way into the trees doesn't help the score card.
A legend with a brilliant vision and mind . Sir Moe Norman , you will always be remembered for your wisdom for making gold simple . Thank you Sir. Love you and may your soul always be blessed with peace and harmony
Two words come to mind after watching these two videos of Moe Norman: Unique, Fascinating. I don't know if I will ever be able to hit another golf ball now! I have only watched Mr. Norman a few times in the past, but only for a short time. I really enjoyed these two part videos of such a unique and different approach to the basic fundamentals of a golf swing. To say his methods were different would be a drastic understatement. However, some fundamentals were right in line with what is basically taught in golf. I learned like most true golfers from Ben Hogans Five Lessons. I wish the narrator would have asked Moe what he thought about Ben Hogan's swing thoughts because they are so different. His grip philosophy, swing plane, body movements, feet position and hip rotation verses upper body rotation are so different than what is taught. Moe is exactly right about the individual aspect of people's abilities to swing a golf club and make solid contact. His mental approach, I. E. smelling the shot, not just visually seeing it is his genius.
He's such a quirky little man. Think how much the media would love this guy if he was playing on the tour now. As great as the current stars are, they don't have personalities of the older stars.
How long have you been on a crusade against non-conformity? I wish I were as much of a "hack" golfer as he was. Perhaps you could post some of your swings so you can set us all straight and show us the way it must be done?
I switched to this system four months ago. I'm 55, and hitting it longer and straighter than I did when I was 25. It truly is the simplest way to strike a golf ball. A big thanks to my swing coach, Todd Graves (known as "Little Moe"), and of course my model, Moe Norman, The World's Greatest Ballstriker.
Every thing moves, trail arm folds, hips rotate while the club is 3/4 back, hands vertically drop and horizontal tug with lead hand. Keep feet on the ground and done.
I've meet a couple of men that got to hit balls with Moe. They loved him immensely. IF we listen to him explain how "HE" hits the golf ball, we'd all be better golfers. simplicity at it's best. listen to him talk about height, amazing. And he says, "hazards are on the ground",,, there are no hazards in the sky, hit over the hazards,,,, wonderful.
At a very young age Moe figured out the most most efficient and repeatable way to strike a golf ball. Over the years of hitting loads of range balls he mastered his craft. Moe was an absolute genius as it’s relates to the golf swing.
The difficult aspect of Moe. He was So impressed with his swing that did not enable him to relate to others. A true treasure he was. What a striker of the ball and player!
I started the Moe Norman conversion last year. 59 yrs old with a bad back. Couldn't make it thru a round and started slicing everything, cause I couldn't turn with the conventional swing. Golf was no longer fun. Had to do something. My game is so much better now and the back doesn't bother me when I play! Sunday afternoon after "The Open" I went to my local club and played 9. Pretty slow as it was getting later in the day. On number 9 I hit a drive about 260, threw down another ball and hit it. When I got to the balls they were literally 18 inches apart. Not side by side, one slightly in front of the other. Looked back at the tee box and you could have drawn a straight line backwards to side of the tee box I teed off from. I have never been a good golfer, now people actually tell me I hit some of the nicest purest shots they ever see. Scores are in upper 70's lowers 80's. Use to be upper 80's and 90's. But like everyone else I need to improve my short game! All I can say is don't make fun of it till you try it!
After watching every online video of Moe including every Graves golf video, I understand now why he started the club so far behind the ball but not because of what he says in this video. If he starts the club directly behind the ball as he come down to it, the face could be slightly open or closed. He starts it there because as he come down into the same point the club will be around square but it's the lateral movement toward the target which keeps the club square through impact. So, like he says, he is square through impact longer, that's why it goes straight everytime. The lateral motion toward the target makes the club path straight towards the target. There is another old video of someone critiquing Moe and drawing lines on the video. He shows Moes hand path through the downswing and it's not an arc like you would expect, you see the path stay lateral straight towards the target for about 12inches at least and the person narrating calls it an exquisite move.
No. It "goes straight every time" because Moe was a singular genius...a golfing savant. His method cannot be be taught or learned. That's why a major championship has never been won by his "single plane swing." You can't teach Beethoven, Einstein....or Moe Norman.
Around 21:00 he is talking about having left arm above right. Look up the axe drill by Pete Cowen. The takeaway and downswing like that, but you need to turn and pull the left arm like he says, to shallow the club. You also need to pivot your pelvis on the same axist so your right butt pushes back against an imaginary wall, and then on downswing left butt pushes into the wall.., spinning the pelvis on the same plane as you sway, This is the key to consistent striking when you don't know what to do with your arms...
I love watching videos of Moe, what a legend. Moe always talks about his feels and they’re not necessarily real, usually not. But through all his videos he talks about A: never hitting a bad shot mentally, even when one does happen, I’ve seen a good handful of bad shots from Moe, fat, tops, thin, pulls, etc. but mentally he never lets that effect him. And B: while there are certain fundamentals and truths about the basic physics of hitting a golf ball, each player is different and should work around they’re natural tendencies and not try to just copy another player to a T. That doesn’t mean players shouldn’t work on and make changes to their swings to improve but simply trying to swing someone else’s swing is almost never going to create great success. The best teachers in the world know this and is why you see such a huge variety of swings on all the tours, yet there are still common dynamics and timing that are the real secrets of the game. I think Moe wouldn’t agree with some of these modern teachers trying to make every players swing a carbon copy of his or any swing, they’re taking away the players natural strength of movements. You can learn from other players but you need to own your own swing. RIP Moe ⛳️🧙♂️💭
7 years without missing a fairway. Even if that’s a bit of an embellishment, which it may or may not be, most golfers can’t go 7 hours without missing. Unbelievable. If you haven’t learned Moe’s story, you should. It’s fascinating. A truly gifted savant.
He is amazing. I’ve been using what he does and it has helped my back so much! It would have been great to see him play. And when I’m hitting the ball it is sweet spot all the time
This is a great swing for those of us who have given up on the fact that we'll ever hit the ball long, im 5-7 with stocky build, I'll never create enough speed to hit it long, I've been using this swing for years, I only hit it 215 of the tee, and I'm using 5 wood and hybrid alot into the green, but always straight, haven't shot over 90 in 10 years, now granted I've only broke 80 5 times but for a recreational golfer, it makes golf fun to always play well, imo this swing isn't for the aspiring collegiate golfer or pro, but it's wonderful for a recreational golfer, and you can win some $ too when you always hit it straight lol
Moe said he was leading a tournament when he tee'd off with his wedge . He hit his second shot first and his first shot second... and made birdie... LMFAO
He also was playing the last hole of a tournament leading by one. Par 5, hit second shot next to the green, chipped it sideways into the bunker and got it up and down, just because. I got to see him hit balls at the world cup 1993 at Lake Nona. Had about 50 people around him and some of the greatest players watching him put on a show with someone elses clubs, was fantastic.
Those rich pretentious pricks bullied him off the tournament and he was on par to win it. They hated his swing. His clothes. And his hair. Said he was embarrassing. I guess the white man hated on their own kind as Moe was dirt poor. At the time. Glad Titleist picked him up. And he didn't pass on broke. Such a positive person. Harmless.
@@kalaharisafari7648 do some research and read some articles for once in your life. And don't call people liars before you prove me wrong. This was told by Moe's closest friends. Who saw what he went through. You're rubbish. Your mannerisms and intelligence..
Hi +Kirk Junge. At the begining the guy says it was a 5 hour of continuous ball striking. Is there any way for you to contact this man or to get the entire footage to see and hear everything he says? That'd be awesome. Another question; why didn't bryson choose to do it much more horizontally like moe or viceversa, why not moe more vertically. I've been doing it like moe for a while now until I discovered bryson. Now I've tryed brysons way with thiker grips on a few clubs and I think it even might be easier. Mantaining a single plane vertically is very easy I think with a thicker grip. What are your thoughts? Thanks a lot
The plane you set your arms up on is a function of body type and personal preference imo. Norman could have done the same thing with a shorter club and the ball closer to him. The key is to then rotate the torso (rib cage) dead square to your spine angle, which Moe did (most people have too flat a shoulder plane), and like he said, "swing the triangle". He made a very compact rotation of the torso and upper arms as one unit. The key to set up is whatever plane you are on, just make sure the club can swing freely straight out from the tip of the triangle, which makes it dead in line with the line of your right forearm. Kirk may not agree, I don't know. It would be good to hear his thoughts though, because it's a very good question.
Only if you can guarantee that your accurate 3 wood can be as precise as Dustins 9-iron, etc. Problem is that even if you could just point a 2 iron where you wanted it, there are lots of places where you cannot stop it in time, where as a rockhard 7-iron WILL stop and yes then it might go 10 yards left/right but it will hold the green.
Big thanks to golf savant legend Moe Norman,for his golf legacy! Am thanking him also for his best golf tip he inadvertently taught me, by virtue of his once statement he replied to the viewers asking him what was his “secret” for the pure consistent golf prowess, he said: “I WON’T TELL YOU BUT SHOW YOU!” At this junction that I resolved to stop listening to what he was saying but not actually doing, and me, just keenly watching/observing how he executed his golf prowess and copy instead! Voilá, I did see the “invisible vital facts/essentials of his “FEELING OF GREATNESS SWING” that he is no longer alone with his “secret”, as I now know the hidden/invisible to-the-eyes bio-mechanics of his perfect ball striking!
I've watched multiple Moe videos and tried to replicate Moe's swing, only to be met with colossal failure! LOL! This man is an anomaly. His explanations are common sense/logic, yet it takes his genius to apply them. There will never be another.
I tried copying Moe's swing for many years without improving. Finally I figured out how to setup on my impact plane and then move naturally to fit my needs. Then I improved to where now I am playing the best golf of my life at 60 years old. More info on learning at setup4impact.com/online/
Mind is blown. I'm watching this to kill time before heading to work. I just went into my garage and grabbed my 9 iron just to try the grip out. I then saw a little 4 inch long piece of paper lying on the concrete. It had a tiny arch in it that had the middle of the paper strip about 3/32" off the floor. And, being crazy as I am, I swung at it pretty hard using this technique. Caught the paper and never touched the concrete with the toe. It looks and sounds for all the world like he's hitting thin, but he's catching it perfectly. If it worked out that way on concrete, I can't wait to go try it on the range!
He explains what he feels in the swing. This is not always what actually happens. F.i. at 18:00 he tells you that his left knee is bend and way past the ball. Now when you look at his actual swing at 18:20 his left leg in fact is straight and his knee is not so far past the ball.
Feel vs real are very true things. Tiger often talked about it - most notably during the 1997 interview with Peter Kessler on the Golf Channel. He talked about the feel of having his arms start the swing before his lower body moves, meanwhile the reality was very different. But that feel helped him keep his swing in tempo.
Another element of Moe’s swing that he never mentions… Steep shoulders..... you can really pick up on it as he explains “the master move“. Moe says… “ I swing the club under my body… Not around my body… Under and up, under and up. “
Moe was so right in what he is shown us, I for one and many other golfers held the club (grip) mainly in the fingers This grip of Moe's obviously made him different and in which doing so made him so consistent, just a shame he found it hard to mix with other and playing world wide! For I am sure that most of the UK have never heard of Moe Norman! He is history now- a dinosaur in which many of us never seen! But the good news is that there are a few guys on the net teaching Moe's swing - if you fancy trying out Moe's swing - then you won't find a better teacher in Todd Greaves Check him out you won't be disappointed!
Nothing but genius. I love when someone follows their instincts, invents their own rules to get what they want. I love this guy.
Moe's a great teacher for young kids to establish a great set of fundamentals about ball striking. Having said that, Moe was an eccentric type guy with the best of intentions, but incorrect in that all the PGA Champions win NOT hitting the ball entirely like him. Moe strikes the goofball with perfection, but the PGA Tour guys do, as well. You don't shoot 58's, 61's, 62's & 63's swinging a bad club. So, much respect to Moe, but Larry, Curly, Shemp & Joe say he's great -- but only in his own mind.
I was lucky enough to see Moe Norman.
Every ball went dead straight. He was a genius.
He knew HIS swing, and really that's the only one anyone needs to know--his/her very OWN.
"reach for the sky , theres no hazards up there only human nature" MOE!!! A national treasure
Mo found his talent and he made the best of it. We should all strive for that.
If every tour pro hit the driver 250. Would we have the modern equipment we have today? Would courses be short. Would there be a Bryson DeChambeau?
Absolutely!
This has completely melted my brain. My head is literally spinning with so many conflicting thoughts.
Moe was one amazing talent that's for sure.
Take the swing you have and add Moe's extended arms. See what happens.
not literally though...look up the word
@@thinkingallowed6485 Dunno, maybe it is spinning. I'd like to see it.
@@thinkingallowed6485 It's called hyperbole. Look up the word.
Me too, spinning, contradicting what you believe is real.
This is the greatest thing ever! R.I.P. Moe.
I too had the great fortune to watch Moe give clinics on five occasions. He never “warmed up”; he just started hitting balls, everyone straight and perfect. Moe Norman was incredible❗️😮😳😄
you lucky man.
Definitely strait but not much power
@@eyesopen9477 far enough for a few 59s 🤣
@@eyesopen9477 250 yds when he was in his 70s
@@eyesopen9477 Hitting it 250+ with balata balls and persimmon woods is most definitely power......especially when it's straight every time, and that's what he did most his life.
"I can't hit it crooked if I want too, my swing won't let me" Best quote ever!
7 years
Nipplefish Digweed lmao
Well at 8:28 Moe says he could hit 500 balls and never get dirt 1 piece of dirt on the toe of his club 25 seconds later at 8:53 he is wiping dirt of the toe of his club 🤣
This man was a true Genius.I loved watching videos of this man talk golf and swing like he was just taking a breath.
So natural and smooth.
The PGA should have a Trophy ( award) with his name.
Absolutely.Amature or Pro for natural golf swing that's not tradional.And good.
everybody hits it straight on the range.....it's not a strange phenomenon...
It would be an easy stat to measure. The guy with the most fairways hit in a year, win’s the Moe Norman trophy!
@@rmlaporte57read a little more about Pipeline Moe, you will understand.
I read his story. The most inspiring golfer ever in my books !
"pure it any better than that and ill eat your hat" !!! The best absolutely the freaking best "certainly" . A national treasure, thankful these videos exist!
I thank you for keeping golf legend Moe Norman’s golf legacy alive that I was able to watch him always delivers his “feeling of greatness perfect golf swing that made him the best ball striker of all times! That overtime only watching (without listening to whatever he was saying) him I was able to see and discover the “invisible essentials” or “master moves” of his perfect golf swing!!!!!!! Cheers folks
Moe is a genius. Unlike most golfers, he keeps the swing so simple. Most of us overthink the game, but not Moe.
Exactly... He was simplicity
Lol...thanks
No, not Moe. Not Moe, no.
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I mean, this guy is just so flattered by himself to the point where even he can’t believe it! Never saw or heard about him but a big fan now ❤ Genius with an entertaining personality. Wish I had met him in person
I'm learning to swing like Moe each and every day now. I thank Moe daily, many times, for showing us his great talent.
"A feeling of greatness. I'm the only golfer in the world, that's got the feeling of greatness! The only one living!" - Luv this guy!! I wish I had his indomitable feeling of motivation and optimism!
I’ve always been fascinated with these kinds of savants! Everything I’ve loved from skateboarding to golf, has a special Moe Norman in the mix. They change everything and most people don’t even realize it! ❤️
are you a Clay Marzo fan?
@@jarradkogos3464 totally!! Surfs so insane!
Some could say Tom Curren has some of those autistic quirks too
Since you mentioned skateboarding I assume you and I both agree Rodney Mullen is/was a skateboarding savant.
@@edgewizz862 💯!
"Here's the master move. A feeling of greatness. I'm the only golfer in the world that gots the felling of greatness. The only one living. Feeling of greatness. Right here. OAAA. That pure. oooo!"
Seeing this written out has me laughing uncontrollably
I watched it so many times already, never tired of it. In fact I would watch it as a textbook whenever I forgot my swing.
I have watched this video for many times already, it is like a swing reference book that I will come back to it again and again, and on top of that, Mr. Moe Norman is such a lovely human being😊
I'm not kidding, especially after getting to know the guy and hearing him go through his swing, it's a beautiful one. Seriously.
This dude is "swing your swing" personified. Did everything completely different than what conventional advice tells us and still not only made it work but made it work so well that many modern golfers are forced to recognize the greatness of the single plane swing.
RIP sir
Moe was a savant. There are no "single plane swing" major winners. One may argue that DeChambeau has a similar method, but not really. Moe's technique can't be taught or learned, just like Einstein's theories can't be originated by other scientists, nor can Beethoven's creativity be taught to others.
7:10
"When was the last time you missed a fairway Moe"
Moe: "Just over 7 years now"
no words to describe this
If you were that accurate, could you imagine how pissed you'd be when you do finally miss a fairway?
When was the last time you hit a fairway, Sid ? Been 7 years now.
When was the last time you made a putt Moe? Moe: I don't remember. I'm just a ball striker with no PGA wins. I couldn't win at that level". Proof that you drive to show and putt for $doe>
@@PapaBean1214 Moe shot 59 three times, how many times have you? No need to reply, I already know the answer. Haters gonna hate.
@@joemarks3719 Moe was apparently a great ball striker. But I have heard that about so many pros. But the bottom line is how many pro tournaments did you win? The short game is what makes or breaks. so shooting 59 3xs doesn't mean squat if you didn't win. The guy NEVER won on the PGA. No need to reply. I know you never won on the tour.
When I watched the Moe Normon program about his life I was shocked and hurt for him at the treatment he recieved from other PGA professionals who literally drove him from the tour, where I believe he would have won a very high %ge of tourney's. Also when I heard Titliest presented Moe with a $ 5K a month stipend for supporting their products his entire life, wonderful stuff.
Moe is such a treat to watch. “There’s no bogies in my bag”. LOL!!! I LIVE this guy! Can’t stop watching this!!!
"I dont even know what a bogey is" 😂😂legend
Not the most modest of men, to be certain. Enough so that he rubbed his fellow competitors the wrong way. Until they finally ostracized him from the tour. Yet, onlly Ben Hogan knew as much about the golf swing as Moe Norman. A pure genius of simplicity. From the wider base for more balance, to standing further away so he could extend his arms better. His right hand grip is also contrary to what is taught. Out of the fingers and into the palm for greater feel. And no twisting in the right hand whatsoever!! I would say his Number One Move though is placing the club at least four to six inches behind the ball at address. There are too many advantages to this to count. As he said it eliminates a full foot of the swing. It takes the club back straighter and slower. It opens the rear shoulder at address for greater turn at the outset. It takes the club back lower to create a similar swing arc as well. Other than that it's not that good!! One subtle, final aspect of his swing that you will notice is he had almost no bend in his knees at address. Whether this was right or wrong, his posture never changed. If your knees don't bend its impossible to have an inconsistent setup in your legs. Every variable, every dumb thing a player could do in his swing was eliminated. His only weakness was he constantly reminded everyone exactly how great he was. Players that good don't like to be reminded how much better he was than them. Even if it was true! Moe Norman was an almost unparalleled genius. A fact he was keenly aware of. And he made certain others knew it as well.
@donaldschmidt2990 yes he let everyone know for sure how great he was…and he was! I knew him relatively well and hit many balls with him one on one. There’s no doubt he was misunderstood all his life so as he got older you could sense he was frustrated in that no one ever tried to learn from him. He felt the world wasn’t taking notice and being older he wanted his voice to be heard about his methods. To leave a legacy. He obviously couldn’t teach it in the traditional sense of the word. Up here in eastern Canada (specifically Ontario and Quebec) he would tour and put on dozens of clinics as a means to make ends meat. He almost had a mythical folklore type status about him at that time. We can thank Mark Evershed (PGA of Canada like myself) and Lorne Rubenstein for getting the word out about Moe. We already knew up here what a living legend he was and thankfully Golf Digest came out with him on the cover in December 95. The rest is history.
Moe was a genius. So sad that he was misunderstood for most of his life. Incredible athlete!
How was he misunderstood?
Bullies are jealous insecure people
@@v205I think he had autism and got bullied that’s why he didn’t play on the pga tour.
"I only see the good things"
I was in attendance that day. Was a great 3 days. I met Moe two weeks later, I look back with great pride on those memories.
Grip in the palms?
“The ball goes dead straight every time” as if he can’t believe it , this guy is awesome
This video of moe norman on single plane easy than two plane swing. I think everything golfer should try different things, one swing only. Golf is always changing. Thank you for this video awesome !!!
He literally hit 1,000 balls a day. There is nothing easier about this.
What I like most about Moe is his incredible MODESTY! LOL.
He's the only man in the world who is modest. lol
I quote Dizzy Dean, Hall of Fame pitcher for the St. Louis Cardinals " It ain't braggin' if you can do it."
“Feeling of greatness”
I love this man! He makes it simple for himself. Thanks for posting.
I’m 74 never really found my swing till I studied this video. Thank you pga and Moe
I absolutely love his self confidence and honesty...YES IM GOOD, REALLY GOOD
At 55 years old I've adopted the Moe method... It's so much simpler and easier on your body... Most amatuers should play this way.
I'm always fascinated by the confidence of people who have asperges or autism. No sense of ego
Lol he was in a car accident when he was 5 and had frontal lobe damage his whole life
@@firly3 ...k?
Right :-)
He was comfortable and at ease with children. Very wary of adults. He had few adult friends. To meet or speak with Moe one was introduced to him by his friends.
I always felt he was exploited by Natural Golf.
His nature was childlike and very sensitive. Most likely due to some form of autism. Difficult to know exactly.
Truly unique human being. Never saw him without a club in his hands. If not a club then he would hold a ball or two. I have a picture of me standing next to him. A treasured remembrance of this man. R.I.P. Moe.
I can’t remember if the ball went straight. Can somebody remind me.
Moe is a Legend, Great to listen & learn from! Thank you Moe.
We Proud of you Bro Moe. Great Golfer from my Country.
I genuinely like this guy and I never met him before. Moe. Your simplicity of golf is amazing.
I tried this at the range tonight, felt funny for 3 or 4 shots, but then it sunk in and I was hitting laser straight drives, flying 30 yds further than it rolled before. Genius
It's been 2 years,are you still hitting it the Moe way?
No. He permanently fucked up his swing and probably doesn’t play anymore lol
@@brettfrimmer6567 I've put 3 stone on, bought myself a hideous shirt and visor but am still shit at golf!
Best Moe Norman Video ever!
Bryson knows this is Gold and now has made us take a closer look at some of the aspects of Moe's swing. Moe is truly a golf genius. Thank you for this video.
Bryson did try using Moe’s swing years ago, but it hurt his back. So he stands much closer with the club more upright and turns much more actively than Moe did.
Been watching this video since it first came out on TH-cam. Always learn something new. I knew Moe from way back. (I'm almost 80.) What they) don't tell you is Moe was gifted with incredible coordination. What that means is simple: what you see here is NOT that simple. That's why you rarely find a golfer who has success with his single-plane swing, even after sometimes days of practice. THE HARDEST THING TO DO IN GOLF IS TO HIT THE BALL STRAIGHT. He did it without even trying, and for hours on end. But another thing they don't tell you is that he also could do it with any kind of swing out there. But it's fun trying. Until, that is, it becomes apparent that most people just can't do what he did, period. In any case, good luck.
Moe was the only one who could hit it perfect setup as he did. There are much easier ways to swing for those who want to swing a club on a single plane. Even Moe said "swing like you, not like me"
"I lose distance but I'm dead straight"
THIS is what made Moe so great. He had his ego in check. Everybody always tries to hit the ball as hard and far as they physically can. It might go a long way, but a long way into the trees doesn't help the score card.
A legend with a brilliant vision and mind . Sir Moe Norman , you will always be remembered for your wisdom for making gold simple . Thank you Sir. Love you and may your soul always be blessed with peace and harmony
“Golf is hitting an object to a defined area with the least amount of effort and alert attitude of indifference.”
Unreal quote
Two words come to mind after watching these two videos of Moe Norman: Unique, Fascinating. I don't know if I will ever be able to hit another golf ball now! I have only watched Mr. Norman a few times in the past, but only for a short time. I really enjoyed these two part videos of such a unique and different approach to the basic fundamentals of a golf swing. To say his methods were different would be a drastic understatement. However, some fundamentals were right in line with what is basically taught in golf. I learned like most true golfers from Ben Hogans Five Lessons. I wish the narrator would have asked Moe what he thought about Ben Hogan's swing thoughts because they are so different. His grip philosophy, swing plane, body movements, feet position and hip rotation verses upper body rotation are so different than what is taught. Moe is exactly right about the individual aspect of people's abilities to swing a golf club and make solid contact. His mental approach, I. E. smelling the shot, not just visually seeing it is his genius.
Moe's oozes with CONFIDENCE!!! I love his swing!
"no bogies today---didn't know they existed") what a great statement (Mo) He will go down in history for as long as videos are available.
He's such a quirky little man. Think how much the media would love this guy if he was playing on the tour now. As great as the current stars are, they don't have personalities of the older stars.
That hack swing would never make it on the tour in 2016.
How long have you been on a crusade against non-conformity?
I wish I were as much of a "hack" golfer as he was. Perhaps you could post some of your swings so you can set us all straight and show us the way it must be done?
Logically, I'm not sure you can call someone who shot 59 three times a "hack". There are six players that shot 59 or better on the PGA tour.
Wrong!...
Go away moron
The sound of his ball contact is so clean love it.
I switched to this system four months ago. I'm 55, and hitting it longer and straighter than I did when I was 25. It truly is the simplest way to strike a golf ball. A big thanks to my swing coach, Todd Graves (known as "Little Moe"), and of course my model, Moe Norman, The World's Greatest Ballstriker.
Every thing moves, trail arm folds, hips rotate while the club is 3/4 back, hands vertically drop and horizontal tug with lead hand. Keep feet on the ground and done.
Couldn't hit it crooked if I wanted to, my swing won't let me! Classic Moe! Bogey what's that I didn't even know it existed! Awesome Moe!
I've meet a couple of men that got to hit balls with Moe. They loved him immensely. IF we listen to him explain how "HE" hits the golf ball, we'd all be better golfers. simplicity at it's best. listen to him talk about height, amazing. And he says, "hazards are on the ground",,, there are no hazards in the sky, hit over the hazards,,,, wonderful.
It is an economy of motion not necessarily simple. What simple thing do you do that took 4 million repetitions to get the knack. I know, none!
There are many hazards in the sky. They are called trees, fences, structures, power poles etc…
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@@erikwestrheim804 Mo said another stoopid thing so I corrected him. 😏
@@mrsmartypants_1 Ah I see. Dubble boogie statment then.
So straight it’s simple, oh Moe if only was.I’m nearly 50 been through 10 coaches and still trying to find my swing and consistency
My grandpa told me stories about Moe. When my grandpa was a kid he would go to specifically see Moe hit. Moe was so good with the kids
Thanks for keeping Moe in the glory of golf.
At a very young age Moe figured out the most most efficient and repeatable way to strike a golf ball. Over the years of hitting loads of range balls he mastered his craft. Moe was an absolute genius as it’s relates to the golf swing.
Im so happy i saw and learned what Moe Norman taught and legacy in golf...i never experience lower back pain anymore.
Dude has an awesome swing. Keeps his head back in a perfect spot
Love to listen to the man. Pure poetry!
The difficult aspect of Moe. He was So impressed with his swing that did not enable him to relate to others. A true treasure he was.
What a striker of the ball and player!
Or his autism
Id place money on that rather than his swing confidence
I started the Moe Norman conversion last year. 59 yrs old with a bad back. Couldn't make it thru a round and started slicing everything, cause I couldn't turn with the conventional swing. Golf was no longer fun. Had to do something. My game is so much better now and the back doesn't bother me when I play! Sunday afternoon after "The Open" I went to my local club and played 9. Pretty slow as it was getting later in the day. On number 9 I hit a drive about 260, threw down another ball and hit it. When I got to the balls they were literally 18 inches apart. Not side by side, one slightly in front of the other. Looked back at the tee box and you could have drawn a straight line backwards to side of the tee box I teed off from. I have never been a good golfer, now people actually tell me I hit some of the nicest purest shots they ever see. Scores are in upper 70's lowers 80's. Use to be upper 80's and 90's. But like everyone else I need to improve my short game! All I can say is don't make fun of it till you try it!
What exactly is the MN swing? Grip in both lifelines?
After watching every online video of Moe including every Graves golf video, I understand now why he started the club so far behind the ball but not because of what he says in this video.
If he starts the club directly behind the ball as he come down to it, the face could be slightly open or closed. He starts it there because as he come down into the same point the club will be around square but it's the lateral movement toward the target which keeps the club square through impact. So, like he says, he is square through impact longer, that's why it goes straight everytime. The lateral motion toward the target makes the club path straight towards the target.
There is another old video of someone critiquing Moe and drawing lines on the video.
He shows Moes hand path through the downswing and it's not an arc like you would expect, you see the path stay lateral straight towards the target for about 12inches at least and the person narrating calls it an exquisite move.
No. It "goes straight every time" because Moe was a singular genius...a golfing savant. His method cannot be be taught or learned. That's why a major championship has never been won by his "single plane swing." You can't teach Beethoven, Einstein....or Moe Norman.
Best golf swing ever. It is simple, easy to learn with little dedication. I swing like Moe since a year now and I stripe it...
Lmao ok bud I’m sure you mastered it 😂😂😂
Every word he speaks is true, a genius
Around 21:00 he is talking about having left arm above right. Look up the axe drill by Pete Cowen. The takeaway and downswing like that, but you need to turn and pull the left arm like he says, to shallow the club. You also need to pivot your pelvis on the same axist so your right butt pushes back against an imaginary wall, and then on downswing left butt pushes into the wall.., spinning the pelvis on the same plane as you sway, This is the key to consistent striking when you don't know what to do with your arms...
Moe reached so far out...crazy. PGA: 27 total events played, with 25 cuts made
1 top ten finish and 7 top 25 finishes
$7,139 in tournament prize money
feeling of greatness. the only golfer in the world. brilliant Moe. you were the best of the best
Best of the best? Yet he won nothing on the PGA tour in 27 events?🤣🤣🤣
I love watching videos of Moe, what a legend. Moe always talks about his feels and they’re not necessarily real, usually not. But through all his videos he talks about A: never hitting a bad shot mentally, even when one does happen, I’ve seen a good handful of bad shots from Moe, fat, tops, thin, pulls, etc. but mentally he never lets that effect him. And B: while there are certain fundamentals and truths about the basic physics of hitting a golf ball, each player is different and should work around they’re natural tendencies and not try to just copy another player to a T. That doesn’t mean players shouldn’t work on and make changes to their swings to improve but simply trying to swing someone else’s swing is almost never going to create great success. The best teachers in the world know this and is why you see such a huge variety of swings on all the tours, yet there are still common dynamics and timing that are the real secrets of the game. I think Moe wouldn’t agree with some of these modern teachers trying to make every players swing a carbon copy of his or any swing, they’re taking away the players natural strength of movements. You can learn from other players but you need to own your own swing. RIP Moe ⛳️🧙♂️💭
7 years without missing a fairway. Even if that’s a bit of an embellishment, which it may or may not be, most golfers can’t go 7 hours without missing. Unbelievable. If you haven’t learned Moe’s story, you should. It’s fascinating. A truly gifted savant.
He is amazing. I’ve been using what he does and it has helped my back so much! It would have been great to see him play. And when I’m hitting the ball it is sweet spot all the time
Totally unique man not afraid to go his own way, gotta admire him!
"A feeling of greatness"❤ R.I.P Moe
Love this guy. The way he talks is the way my brain functions
Interviewer: when was the last time you missed a fairway?
Me: yes
The sport without effort.....
MOE will stay the best....
Thanksssss
This is a great swing for those of us who have given up on the fact that we'll ever hit the ball long, im 5-7 with stocky build, I'll never create enough speed to hit it long, I've been using this swing for years, I only hit it 215 of the tee, and I'm using 5 wood and hybrid alot into the green, but always straight, haven't shot over 90 in 10 years, now granted I've only broke 80 5 times but for a recreational golfer, it makes golf fun to always play well, imo this swing isn't for the aspiring collegiate golfer or pro, but it's wonderful for a recreational golfer, and you can win some $ too when you always hit it straight lol
I’ve hit a ball 300 yards off the tee using this swing.
I have a Korean buddy 5’4” who can hit it 300 yds.
The ball doesn’t know how big you are
@@mrleeonthetrack same. I hit 315-350 with this swing
Sweet Spot with modern equipment - the sky is the limit.
Thank you for posting this Kirk! what amazing insight!
Moe said he was leading a tournament when he tee'd off with his wedge . He hit his second shot first and his first shot second... and made birdie... LMFAO
He also was playing the last hole of a tournament leading by one. Par 5, hit second shot next to the green, chipped it sideways into the bunker and got it up and down, just because. I got to see him hit balls at the world cup 1993 at Lake Nona. Had about 50 people around him and some of the greatest players watching him put on a show with someone elses clubs, was fantastic.
Those rich pretentious pricks bullied him off the tournament and he was on par to win it. They hated his swing. His clothes. And his hair. Said he was embarrassing. I guess the white man hated on their own kind as Moe was dirt poor. At the time. Glad Titleist picked him up. And he didn't pass on broke. Such a positive person. Harmless.
@@suryavaraman.4277 u are talking rubbish
@@kalaharisafari7648 do some research and read some articles for once in your life. And don't call people liars before you prove me wrong. This was told by Moe's closest friends. Who saw what he went through. You're rubbish. Your mannerisms and intelligence..
21:10 "a feeling of greatness, only golfer in the world with a feeling of greatness." lmao
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Thanks for this video, he was great.
Hi +Kirk Junge. At the begining the guy says it was a 5 hour of continuous ball striking. Is there any way for you to contact this man or to get the entire footage to see and hear everything he says? That'd be awesome.
Another question; why didn't bryson choose to do it much more horizontally like moe or viceversa, why not moe more vertically. I've been doing it like moe for a while now until I discovered bryson. Now I've tryed brysons way with thiker grips on a few clubs and I think it even might be easier. Mantaining a single plane vertically is very easy I think with a thicker grip. What are your thoughts?
Thanks a lot
The plane you set your arms up on is a function of body type and personal preference imo. Norman could have done the same thing with a shorter club and the ball closer to him. The key is to then rotate the torso (rib cage) dead square to your spine angle, which Moe did (most people have too flat a shoulder plane), and like he said, "swing the triangle". He made a very compact rotation of the torso and upper arms as one unit.
The key to set up is whatever plane you are on, just make sure the club can swing freely straight out from the tip of the triangle, which makes it dead in line with the line of your right forearm.
Kirk may not agree, I don't know. It would be good to hear his thoughts though, because it's a very good question.
3:45 - Moe talking about Angle of Attack (AOA) 10 to 15 years before it even became known among the swing monitor crowd.
you think AoA was only developed when monitors came along???
I'm playing his way the last few weeks and I'm getting very good
i like when he said, "I lose distance but its goes dead straight" i'll take accuracy over distance any day
To a point
Patrick Pitts Christ man , it’s about Moe
You really don't lose distance I use Todd Graves setup and actually have gained distance
Only if you can guarantee that your accurate 3 wood can be as precise as Dustins 9-iron, etc.
Problem is that even if you could just point a 2 iron where you wanted it, there are lots of places where you cannot stop it in time, where as a rockhard 7-iron WILL stop and yes then it might go 10 yards left/right but it will hold the green.
@@barath4545 Every golfer here would LOVE to have accuracy. Even if they could not gain more yardage.
Big thanks to golf savant legend Moe Norman,for his golf legacy! Am thanking him also for his best golf tip he inadvertently taught me, by virtue of his once statement he replied to the viewers asking him what was his “secret” for the pure consistent golf prowess, he said: “I WON’T TELL YOU BUT SHOW YOU!” At this junction that I resolved to stop listening to what he was saying but not actually doing, and me, just keenly watching/observing how he executed his golf prowess and copy instead! Voilá, I did see the “invisible vital facts/essentials of his “FEELING OF GREATNESS SWING” that he is no longer alone with his “secret”, as I now know the hidden/invisible to-the-eyes bio-mechanics of his perfect ball striking!
Rest in peace MOE NORMAN.... his comments around the 13 minute mark are spot on.
i love moe. i laugh the entire time i watch this video and i think I'm the only guy in the world who does that.
such a modest man!
Haha I know right ?
I've watched multiple Moe videos and tried to replicate Moe's swing, only to be met with colossal failure! LOL! This man is an anomaly. His explanations are common sense/logic, yet it takes his genius to apply them. There will never be another.
I tried copying Moe's swing for many years without improving. Finally I figured out how to setup on my impact plane and then move naturally to fit my needs. Then I improved to where now I am playing the best golf of my life at 60 years old. More info on learning at setup4impact.com/online/
this is AWESOME
Mind is blown. I'm watching this to kill time before heading to work. I just went into my garage and grabbed my 9 iron just to try the grip out. I then saw a little 4 inch long piece of paper lying on the concrete. It had a tiny arch in it that had the middle of the paper strip about 3/32" off the floor.
And, being crazy as I am, I swung at it pretty hard using this technique. Caught the paper and never touched the concrete with the toe. It looks and sounds for all the world like he's hitting thin, but he's catching it perfectly. If it worked out that way on concrete, I can't wait to go try it on the range!
I tried Moe`s swing with my driver today and it works, ball goes dead straight!!
Nick Daguanno Have u tried that swing? It works, But i dont use it when i play golf..
I'm doing the same swing with my driver and it goes straight too
I think I read that when he was playing in Tournaments he used an overlap grip, but I`m not sure if the club was on the lifeline of his right palm.
He explains what he feels in the swing. This is not always what actually happens.
F.i. at 18:00 he tells you that his left knee is bend and way past the ball. Now when you look at his actual swing at 18:20 his left leg in fact is straight and his knee is not so far past the ball.
Feel vs real are very true things. Tiger often talked about it - most notably during the 1997 interview with Peter Kessler on the Golf Channel. He talked about the feel of having his arms start the swing before his lower body moves, meanwhile the reality was very different. But that feel helped him keep his swing in tempo.
It IS as he says - bent and forward - just less as the slow modelling he’s doing.
dude, thank you so much for your channel awesome stuff, thx for posting this video!
Another element of Moe’s swing that he never mentions… Steep shoulders..... you can really pick up on it as he explains “the master move“. Moe says… “ I swing the club under my body… Not around my body… Under and up, under and up. “
Moe was so right in what he is shown us, I for one and many other golfers held the club (grip) mainly in the fingers
This grip of Moe's obviously made him different and in which doing so made him so consistent, just a shame he found it hard to mix with other and playing world wide! For I am sure that most of the UK have never heard of Moe Norman!
He is history now- a dinosaur in which many of us never seen! But the good news is that there are a few guys on the net teaching Moe's swing - if you fancy trying out Moe's swing - then you won't find a better teacher in Todd Greaves
Check him out you won't be disappointed!
I love how he explains with great intensity
Thanks for the Moe-tivation!