I can tell you are the best gamers channel that have passion with DIY. Big thumbs from me for opening a brand new scuf . Wish this channel to grow larger soon because you deserve it . Keep up the good job :)
I’ve got a friend that works for Scuf an literally has said its like the “ modded “ controllers people would buy / make just a bit fancier! He’s responsible for the controllers circuit boards ( design & layout )
For anybody wondering why they put silicone/rubber on the haptic b Motors is to get rid of this awful vibration sound that the PS five controllers make from time to time because It was one thing I noticed right away with the scuff controller is it’s dead quiet.
@@Prymistic Exactly! Thankfully someone understands. I do microsoldering for a living. I'm more than capable of taking this controller apart, but knowing where it's clipped together and where it's not is still useful information. Also I finished this controller a long time ago 😂
Any particular reason why my controller won't turn back on after I pulled it apart? I really only did it to fix one of the triggers, didn't really go much further than just taking the back off...
Coming from somebody that has an extreme rate rise remap 4 kit and 2 scuf reflexes, there are advantages to both. The reflex is a lot more “clicky” or mechanical type feeling and also ergonomically better with the back buttons. The rise remap 4 is a “soggier” click on the back making them more difficult to use in a rapid succession. I love the new charm focus kit but it is bulky and will take some getting used to. The turbo and macro functions are very good I will have to say. If you don’t need those two stick to extreme rate. As I said I have 2 reflexes both have been sent in multiple times for sticky back buttons. And you have to spam them to get them to unstick. This doesn’t work out well in game gun fights. They’ve both been sent back multiple times under warranty and once out of pocket, both still have sticky back buttons and I’m refusing to send them in again. Let me know if anybody here has the same experience.
@@InTrevVVeTrust about $65 and they never fixed it. Bot scufs have sticky back buttons that stay stuck in the “hold down” position. Then you spam the buttons and it fixes it temporarily. Happening more and more often. I can’t send them in again. Driving me crazy cuz they don’t fix it anyways.
Could you do another video installing the clicky hair triggers to the scuff? Only managed to get a scuff pro controller, and I’m scared to ruin a 400 dollar controller!
I would love to see a teardown tutorial or a clicky trigger kit installment into the reflex pro. I am going to be receiving one that i have won from a giveaway and would want to install my previous clicky kit into the new controller.
I can tell you if you swap the whole board on a scuff with a same model board from a regular dualsense controller it will not register input in-game without using another controller to start the game first 🙃 so theres something they do to the scuf board
Appreciate the vid. My Scuff Reflex FPS only cost $235 but that was during Christmas. All in all it is a great controller with everything geared for FPS only games (mouse click buttons, no feedback motors). Next go 'round I'll probably just get the PS5 pro controller since it is variable/modular based on what you are using it for.
Would it be possible to transfer the paddles onto a regular dualsense controller? I see the yellow soldered wires are keeping the paddle ribbon cable in place but could you somehow cut the wire to free it up?
Great video and I concur, it’s not a third party controller, not with all those Sony parts in there. I too put a controller together using extremeRate parts and I plan to make another one. Maybe extremeRate will come out with a Rise 3.0 with longer paddles, they seem to listen to feedback pretty well.
@@GearsAndTech there are no 3 party controllers. the one reason is because sony encrpyted the dualsense. so ps5 games can only be played with offcial dualsense controllers. if third party controlers would be alowed then sony has to share the encryption with other companies. Sony suposedly encrypted the dualsense for ps5 games so developers would use the new haptic feedback and other features in there games. if they allowed controllers that do not have these feautures, then developers would not make use of them in htere games as much. atleast that is the reasoning sony uses to explain the dualsense encryption.
Thank you! You saved me $300...I am so glad I built my own controller using the extremerate kits. I see Scuf used the Gen 1 PS5 controller motherboard which the thumbsticks have the drift issues...the Gen 2 which are in the new color controllers (Galactic purple, Nova pink, Starlite blue) have the improved thumbsticks, and trigger housing. I wonder if Scuf will be using the Gen 2's soon?
Its weird, I haven't seen that in any of the controllers I have pulled apart. But others have reported the same in theirs. So they must have 2 different styles
Yes. The shell is the same on the inside. So any aftermarket shells should work just fine with your scuf guts. The back shell is proprietary though as it has the back button on it
How easy it’s to remove the screws in the front that holds the triggers of the Scuf Reflex? Also Would be easy to change the buttons? You should make a video.
Do you fix controllers for people?? I have crazy stick drift to the left. I’ve taken it apart but to get to the stick itself is tricky and I don’t wanna break it
I took my scuf reflex apart to solder on new stick. Let me tell u just send it to scuf to get it fixed not worth the time imo. There is so much stuff you have to desolder and solder back on. U also have to deal with a flex pcb, which r very susceptible to heat damage a little too much heat and ur stuck with a useless conteoller
@@GearsAndTech that’s great man, good idea! So which do you prefer? The Scuf or the extreme rates buttons and how they feel? Specifically the back buttons, of course.
i have used xbox elite series 2, ps4 ds4 controller, ps5 controller and scuf controller - among all these controllers what i've felt that, scuf controller have much more aim assist in call of duty warzone (pc)! Why is that? Do you think is there any reason behind this?
Can you swap the thumb stick module in the scuf? I mean the whole module like in the PS5 Edge. Can it be removed by perhaps melting the shouldering? My Scuf Reflex FPS has a damaged right thumb stick after 1 year. Not only does it have stick drift but it also has random jitters that randomly have up inputs when just touching it. I did just buy a Sony Dualsense Edge for that very reason but I am curious if I can still fix my scuf? I bought the scuf because I knew it was a PS5 controller as I wanted to overclock it to 1000hz as my Xbox Elite 2 cannot be overclocked as it's hardware limited. Xbox controllers can't be successfully overclocked and are locked at 124hz. Sony Playstation controllers come at 250hz but can be overclocked to 1000hz.
I have a reflex pro and the left side of the controller is super loose and feels hollow, I sent it in for them to fix it but it was tight for a day and then it got loose again kinda annoying. Do u recommend a fix to try to tight those faceplates up?
Any chance of a video going further and removing the front faceplate to get to the D-pad, recently received a custom scuff reflex but the right button on the D-pad is kind of stiff and sticky compared to the rest hoping I can fix to avoid international return to repair
Can you compare the analog sticks? Are they still using same analog stick hardware (pontentiometer etc.) If it’s the same, stick drift will come soon! Thx for video
Mine came with the right D-Pad having to be pressed significantly more than the others. Could be dust or something from the factory. Is there any way to reach it?
My son has been telling me to claw for a while now. I just can't see my fingers bending like that. Maybe im just getting to old But yes, if you can do claw, you're way better off
I have a question, if the Scuf sticks were to start drifting (Common DS5 issue..).. Would you be able to pop transplant in a new PCB assembly from another DS5 controller?. To keep the Scuf shape and function, but replace the sticks.
Yes, you could solder a new stick in Or use the drift fix solder in solutions. Eventually I'll do a video on those, just haven't got drift yet to need them
@@GearsAndTech Got it, thanks. My Dualsense started having this weird drift issues where it pulls left every now and then, and now reading and watching videos about it seems to be a potentiometer issue. Thinking about attempting a repair on it. Great videos by the way.
@@GearsAndTech Thank you. Have you actually tried it and put the controller back together to confirm it isn't rubbing and can move freely? taking the controller apart won't be an issue as I have done it a couple of times.
For what it's worth, I recommend you just do these instead Adjustable height Thumbsticks - amzn.to/3FBt1Lg I know they work for sure, and make it super easy to swap the thumb sticks afterwards
@@GearsAndTech Thanks for the recommendation but I have my heart set on the Scuf Reflex sticks. From my research it looks like the issue will come from the front clip off shel, so I have ordered some larger friction rings designed for Xbox Elite (apparently they fit) and then drill the holes for the faceplate larger. I'll keep you updated when it's done to let you know if it was a success or not.
If I was doing this I would shave the main controller shell bigger then so you can pop the Thumbsticks right out by only pulling the top plate off in the future. You won't have any issues then and should not need to shave anything off the top trim plate so it keeps the factory look
Great video. So is it possible to replace the scuf reflex fps click triggers with the extremerate click triggers? Mine stopped clicking for both L2 and R2 and controller is out of warranty
My scuf constantly has an issue where my x button r3 button gets stuck “on”. So when I’m flying in warzone I can’t pull my parachute, I break my legs, and then the give up button is r3 so my teammates can’t even save me.
Hey, i have a question!! My scuff reflex since lastnight everytime i press L2, L1 trigger it turns off the controller. I have pressed other buttons and everything works normal only when any of those 2 are pressed it turns off the controller. Any thoughts?
Hello and thank your for this video, sorry but my english is so bad :) So, if I understand well, it's possible to change the PS button of the Scuf controller with the realone (PS button) if I change the front panel too ? Thanks for your help !
Hey I have a scuf and got the extremerate clicky hair trigger kit and was wondering if I can install that in my scuf reflex controller and with what BDM?
My Refles FPS won't charge...or it's VERY hard to get it to. And if you do get it to 100% it don't last too long. Could it be the battery or is something preventing it from charging?
@@GearsAndTech If I take the controller apart how can I confirm it's broken and can it be easily repaired? I can play withe USB cable plugged in no problem but battery icon might not fill up as mentioned. No way it's just a bad battery? Thanks
I bought a ps5 scuf on July of last year. Had to return it on January because the R2 stopped working. Got it back. They fix it for free, but had to make a fight for it. So, I was using it yesterday, and now the L2 button does not work..... in my opinion, just make your own controller instead of buying a scuf. I made my own, with parts I bought online, and it works perfectly fine still
So the red one.. I built with extremerate parts. The back button broke multiple times... I brought an aim controller... the back button broke... I brought a scuf reflex fps... I hope I dont have the same problem
Damn so scuf reflex don’t have the new parts that the new color ways of ps5 have? I would figure since they have been out of stock maybe they updated them but that means drift will still be a problem eventually…anybody experiencing drift on reflex or the new ps5 controllers ? (Light blue , pink, or purple,)?
Light blue dualsense not yet. But I’ve only had it a month. But the dualsense that came with my console got drift after about a year. I took it apart and cleaned it now it’s good to go
Hey, a little confused with your intro. Most modded controller companies start with a standard dual sense controller. Companies such as Aim, Hex Gaming, and Scuf.
But what's the quality of the internal back paddle buttons mounted on the battery tray? Is it just the same kind of dome switches that broke on my PS4 Scuf housed under those tiny metal boxes with the button nubs sticking out? Or are they some kind of good quality switches, like what Corsair would use in their keyboards? Those dome switches were definitely a problem for many people with the pre-Corsair Scuf controllers. I'm just a casual gamer and one of mine broke right as the warranty expired. And I'm not paying Scuf (probably at least the price of a Sony controller from what I hear) to fix a part that is essential in making it what I paid a premium price for and should have a lifetime warranty for that reason. (and you can't find replacements for them either) This is something that people considering a Scuf should know before they make that call. I know I wouldn't buy a Scuf again without knowing this and a better warranty from them. My Dualshock 4 Back Button Attachment works perfectly and has already outlasted a controller. And I also did the eXremerate metal 2 paddle mod to my Dualsense controller and am eXtremely pleased with it. (pun obviously intended) My advice is to go with the much better value and ease of replacement of the eXtremerate mods and give Scuf a pass. p.s. - It's also kind of telling that Scuf used the original Dualsense PCB, the 010 version that Sony has already switched from to the 020 version well before the Reflex became available. Not a good sign.
not worth it. ive bought two in the last two months and both have had problems. first one the tiger stopped working. second the paddles stopped mapping.
I had mines for awhile now but now I’m having trouble. I have the fps version and having trouble with the mic. I plug in my headset and it doesn’t work but the same headset works on all my other ps5 controllers. When I press r1 or r2 my controller disconnects.
Love how you start pulling it apart and say "don't worry about that breaking sound" and then skip ahead to where you already have it apart... Really well detailed teardown... Not! That's the most important part, what happened? Did YOU break it?
I actually am so used to the clicky triggers that I went back to my extreme rate modded controller. My long term test review is coming out soon for this controller
Im experiencing a left analog stick drift problem on the scuf reflex. The left stick just keeps moving left on its own. Ive compressed it out, used rubbing alcohol and a qtip, no fixes. I reached out to scuf yesterday cause it is still under warranty but the havent replied yet.
Hello nobody said it wasn't a Sony controller lol. Scuf had to pay licensing fees but now have created their own so it's much cheaper, sure it was expensive but it was customised specially with the mouse click triggers. I have a Scuf Reflex FPS but after a year it has stick drift so I just upgraded to a Sony Daulsense Edge. I didnt even know about their own new controller the Scuf Envision which I would really like as it's comes with 1000hz polling rate two extra buttons on the sides so 6 extra buttons compared to Sony 2 extra that are always accessible and usable for gaming. The replacable thumb sticks are so good though. I don't like having to use hidusbf and DS4 windows just to get 1ms. Hidusbf on it's own doesn't overclock to 1ms I think it's due to the software not supporting the controller properly, it shouldn't have the 2K an 8K options. 8K isn't as fast as hidusbf at 1K with DS4. Sadly DSX doesn't seem to push the controller refresh rate up to 1K (1ms, 0.5-1.0ms) like DS4 does even with hidusbf at 1K or 8K. I had to get my hands on a PS5 to save profiles so I could use it with DS4 to get that faster response time. If you don't care about 1ms or cant tell the difference just use DSX to bind the pedals to whatever buttons you want on the Sony Dualsense Edge for PC use.
I'm having a problem with my scuffed controller where when I try to turn it on it flashed yellow and it's been on the charger all night and day does anyone know how to fix it.
Please help.. I had my scuf fps reflex controller R1 button break. How do I fix this? I don’t want to wait for long service wait time. If it’a really simple to fix.
Depends whats broken If it's the button itself then pop it off and pop a new one on If it's the function of it. Like it pushes in but doesn't do anything.... Look at switching the buttons out with clicky triggers from extreme rate
Oh that sucks. Unfortunately regular ps5 buttons don't work in the scuff controller. So you need a replacement button. But they could maybe ship you one and you can swap yourself
I would like to have a SCUF style controller but SCUF has a bad reputation with customer support. I’ve read more bad reviews than good reviews about how long their controllers last
you forgot one crucial component you did not check if it uses the same analog stick, if it uses high quality stick if so that alone worth the hustle of having a drift.
Sony and Xbox probably send scuf blank shells or sends them a mold they can use since every pro gamer goes with scuf even though their products are hit or miss
Thanks for this very informative video. I'm curious how it fairs after a month of regular-to-heavy usage. I remember the couple of scuffs i bought before for the PS4, and at both times, the controller back paddles/buttons were very less responsive after about 2 to 3 months of use only. Thank you for your reply.
I had the same issue. For me, it was the square metal tactile domes that broke. I had to open my SCUF many times to replace them, which would make the controller feel brand new. Then I ended up snapping the ribbon cables on accident which rendered it broken.
Can anyone help me regarding the same input for l3 and r3? Everything works fine but every time I press l3; let’s say for sprinting it also presses r3 which makes me crouch.
Yeah I bought the first batch actually; but I think it’s due to maybe the controller taking a hard fall. I opened it up, verified the cables and tightened it a bit more than usual and it seemed to have fixed it. Thanks for the vid
I've had the red, black and white apart and none of them had that epoxy on them. At some point I'll have the blue ones apart, so I'll check that one. But I haven't come across any with that epoxy except the scuf
@@GearsAndTech my first ever controller (like the one that comes w the console) I had had the epoxy thing so I’m assuming it must’ve been in the older dualsenses idk all the other ones I had don’t have that tho
The first one I took apart was a day one console controller, no epoxy Which region are you in? Perhaps only certain regions got them. This is interesting.
Hi, what you said 5:00 about the faceplate is not correct as there are a lot more of little plastic clips and divots on the original dualsense faceplate. Otherwise, thanks for the video ✌️
Great Video! Liked and Subscribed. I’m having a issue on a almost brand new SCUF reflex PS5 r3 engages l3 and vice versa, I’ve reset and recalibrated, compressed air and alcohol but haven’t taken the controller completely apart yet. If I sent 50 dollar venmo/PayPal, would you please zoom with me for a trouble shoot? Or any advice? Thanks!
That's weird. Only thing I can think is they soldered the wires for r3 and l3 backwards. East fix is just cut those wires and tape them so they don't touch anything and hope you don't want to remap the back buttons to r3 or l3
@@GearsAndTech got it fixed, there was a ribbon that looked out of place based on the video of your open SCUF, it was the ribbon right under L3, then also tightened the screw that hold the mother board to the battery bracket. I’m cracked again
Hey I really appreciate putting out a teardown of the controller! I have a question for you...Dropped my Reflex a couple nights ago and one of the paddles stopped working. Three of them work fine but seems like the one has lost all functionality. Do you think repairing it myself is viable?
@@GearsAndTech Thanks for the Tear down. I am trying to fix the drift in my Scuf Reflex in the left thumb stick. I tried to replace the Potentiometers for the left Stick. You have to do a tear-down to get the sides of the JoyStick Cube to open up enough. I was hoping that your video would go that far with the tear-down.
@@GearsAndTech Not sure if you care. But all that I had to do was detach three ribbons and the Circut board was able to be flipped over and I was able to finish the replacement of the Potentiometers. The Rat nest came out as a clump once. not as scary as it looked. Keep up the great content. You help more then you know.
Not going far enough in my opinion and I can warn you "don’t worry for the breaking sounds", worry about since it mean you broke a small plastic part 😅 (probably not mandatory but still, I can tell later)
They don't understand the question The triggers will not be adaptive, they will still be variable. But the resistance won't change at all. That's specifically programmed into the ps5 to activate
I have a ps5 reflex scuf and it only lasted 8 months. This crap cost 200US and its not worth it. I sent to purchase the joystick replacement and its its a hell of a job to weld the new part. Imposible.
Sony does not allow third party controllers, because then other people would make controllers that do not have haptic feedback and adaptive' triggers. Sonyt wants developers to use these controller features in their games. That is why they encrypted the dualsense for alll ps5 games. Breaking the encreption is offcourse illegal. So if sony decides to keep the arrangement this way, then there will never be official thirdparty controllers. Or the may in the feuture allow company's to make a controller if they pay sony money so they would get acces to the encyption code/keys.
Smontaggio e sostituzione analogico SCUF REFLEX th-cam.com/video/dTHBNCZtAyI/w-d-xo.html Mega ho trovato un tuo collega che ha riparato il mio reflex. Metto il link qui per la comunity
I can tell you are the best gamers channel that have passion with DIY. Big thumbs from me for opening a brand new scuf . Wish this channel to grow larger soon because you deserve it . Keep up the good job :)
I’ve got a friend that works for Scuf an literally has said its like the “ modded “ controllers people would buy / make just a bit fancier! He’s responsible for the controllers circuit boards ( design & layout )
Well your friend sucks at his job
@@MaximusTheChosenOne lmao bruh
For anybody wondering why they put silicone/rubber on the haptic b Motors is to get rid of this awful vibration sound that the PS five controllers make from time to time because It was one thing I noticed right away with the scuff controller is it’s dead quiet.
Excellent observation
Or you take them out!
"Just gotta pop this front face plate out" cuts to the face plate already removed in the next shot -_-
It's a pretty straight forward process idk man
@Risccii that's not what you say when giving a tutorial. You go step by step not skip to the next scene lol
basically every other video covers that part, which is pretty simple actually
if you get stuck on step 1 maybe dont do it at all lol
@@lolomelon528 it's about not breaking the controller.
@@Prymistic Exactly! Thankfully someone understands. I do microsoldering for a living. I'm more than capable of taking this controller apart, but knowing where it's clipped together and where it's not is still useful information. Also I finished this controller a long time ago 😂
Any particular reason why my controller won't turn back on after I pulled it apart? I really only did it to fix one of the triggers, didn't really go much further than just taking the back off...
Does it turn on if you plug it in?
If yes, the battery is not connected
If no you've loosened a connector somewhere
Coming from somebody that has an extreme rate rise remap 4 kit and 2 scuf reflexes, there are advantages to both. The reflex is a lot more “clicky” or mechanical type feeling and also ergonomically better with the back buttons. The rise remap 4 is a “soggier” click on the back making them more difficult to use in a rapid succession. I love the new charm focus kit but it is bulky and will take some getting used to. The turbo and macro functions are very good I will have to say. If you don’t need those two stick to extreme rate. As I said I have 2 reflexes both have been sent in multiple times for sticky back buttons. And you have to spam them to get them to unstick. This doesn’t work out well in game gun fights. They’ve both been sent back multiple times under warranty and once out of pocket, both still have sticky back buttons and I’m refusing to send them in again. Let me know if anybody here has the same experience.
same experience, how much was the out of pocket? over $30?
@@InTrevVVeTrust about $65 and they never fixed it. Bot scufs have sticky back buttons that stay stuck in the “hold down” position. Then you spam the buttons and it fixes it temporarily. Happening more and more often. I can’t send them in again. Driving me crazy cuz they don’t fix it anyways.
@@InTrevVVeTrust $60
Could you do another video installing the clicky hair triggers to the scuff?
Only managed to get a scuff pro controller, and I’m scared to ruin a 400 dollar controller!
I would love to see a teardown tutorial or a clicky trigger kit installment into the reflex pro. I am going to be receiving one that i have won from a giveaway and would want to install my previous clicky kit into the new controller.
I tried to take mine apart but when I put it back together now when I hit theL2 and L1 it turns off my controller
Something is shorting out
I can tell you if you swap the whole board on a scuff with a same model board from a regular dualsense controller it will not register input in-game without using another controller to start the game first 🙃 so theres something they do to the scuf board
That's weird.
Please can u name a controller where I won’t find analog and triggers issues u seem experienced with this
Since all ps5 controllers started life as a Sony controller all of them will suffer the same problem
Another very interesting video, I made my own dualsense mods, using extremerate, super easy to do!
Appreciate the vid. My Scuff Reflex FPS only cost $235 but that was during Christmas. All in all it is a great controller with everything geared for FPS only games (mouse click buttons, no feedback motors). Next go 'round I'll probably just get the PS5 pro controller since it is variable/modular based on what you are using it for.
Hello, will you be doing a tear down video for the dualsense edge?
I do have a preorder of dualsense edge and plan to tear it down as well yes
@@GearsAndTech that’s great! looking forward to that video if you end up doing it 👍🏼
Thanks. Not only do I need the trigger fixed now, the whole entire controller is busted! The breaking sound was to worry about then mate 👍
You are welcome! Mine went back together just fine
Would it be possible to transfer the paddles onto a regular dualsense controller? I see the yellow soldered wires are keeping the paddle ribbon cable in place but could you somehow cut the wire to free it up?
Scuff didn't make this thing user friendly.
incredible content and presentation 🙌🏻, also the scuf when gripping it felt smaller than the regular dual sense and you confirmed for me
Great video and I concur, it’s not a third party controller, not with all those Sony parts in there. I too put a controller together using extremeRate parts and I plan to make another one. Maybe extremeRate will come out with a Rise 3.0 with longer paddles, they seem to listen to feedback pretty well.
I would love a rise 3 with longer paddles and stiffer buttons. The ones on there now click too easy
@@GearsAndTech there are no 3 party controllers. the one reason is because sony encrpyted the dualsense. so ps5 games can only be played with offcial dualsense controllers. if third party controlers would be alowed then sony has to share the encryption with other companies. Sony suposedly encrypted the dualsense for ps5 games so developers would use the new haptic feedback and other features in there games. if they allowed controllers that do not have these feautures, then developers would not make use of them in htere games as much. atleast that is the reasoning sony uses to explain the dualsense encryption.
100%correct.
I made another video explaining why they did that.
epoxied so they dont break off from the solder after vibration im sure
Thank you! You saved me $300...I am so glad I built my own controller using the extremerate kits. I see Scuf used the Gen 1 PS5 controller motherboard which the thumbsticks have the drift issues...the Gen 2 which are in the new color controllers (Galactic purple, Nova pink, Starlite blue) have the improved thumbsticks, and trigger housing. I wonder if Scuf will be using the Gen 2's soon?
Have you found out if the use the gen 2 motherboard??
I haven't gotten my hands on a more recent one to open it and find out.
My guess is no
@@GearsAndTechI’d imagine by now they have, my 2 scufs I bought in May 22 both have a slight stick drift.
Very good video. Thank you
If my L2 button will no longer map to any of the paddles, do you think it’s a good assumption that one of those wires came loose from a solder point?
Possible yes
The haptics are the same, later bdm-010 have the epoxy straight from the Sony factory 👍
Its weird, I haven't seen that in any of the controllers I have pulled apart. But others have reported the same in theirs. So they must have 2 different styles
So essentially you can swap out the controller shell and have a clear or different colors to get a custom colored scuf controller?
Yes. The shell is the same on the inside. So any aftermarket shells should work just fine with your scuf guts. The back shell is proprietary though as it has the back button on it
Waooo what s great video !!! You deserve more views and likes . Great work explaining everything…
Thank you. Please share with your friends. That's how this channel can grow faster
@@GearsAndTech i did and will share on my social medías !!!
How easy it’s to remove the screws in the front that holds the triggers of the Scuf Reflex? Also Would be easy to change the buttons? You should make a video.
Do you fix controllers for people?? I have crazy stick drift to the left. I’ve taken it apart but to get to the stick itself is tricky and I don’t wanna break it
I'm sorry. I don't.
@@GearsAndTech okay. Thank you!!
I took my scuf reflex apart to solder on new stick. Let me tell u just send it to scuf to get it fixed not worth the time imo. There is so much stuff you have to desolder and solder back on. U also have to deal with a flex pcb, which r very susceptible to heat damage a little too much heat and ur stuck with a useless conteoller
Totally agree. It's not user serviceable
Thanks for doing this man. I was the guy who asked you way back when. Great vid!
No worries. If you have any other ideas let me know. I want a large part of my content to be fan driven.
@@GearsAndTech that’s great man, good idea! So which do you prefer? The Scuf or the extreme rates buttons and how they feel? Specifically the back buttons, of course.
My long term test video will be out in the next week or so. I'll let you know my thoughts then
Could that scuf l1/r1 sit flush bc they’re missing the clicky button hole studs that you have in your red controller?
i have used xbox elite series 2, ps4 ds4 controller, ps5 controller and scuf controller - among all these controllers what i've felt that, scuf controller have much more aim assist in call of duty warzone (pc)! Why is that? Do you think is there any reason behind this?
It could be the higher polling rate of the scuf controller.
Ps5 controller can be overclocked to do the same
Can you swap the thumb stick module in the scuf? I mean the whole module like in the PS5 Edge. Can it be removed by perhaps melting the shouldering? My Scuf Reflex FPS has a damaged right thumb stick after 1 year. Not only does it have stick drift but it also has random jitters that randomly have up inputs when just touching it. I did just buy a Sony Dualsense Edge for that very reason but I am curious if I can still fix my scuf? I bought the scuf because I knew it was a PS5 controller as I wanted to overclock it to 1000hz as my Xbox Elite 2 cannot be overclocked as it's hardware limited. Xbox controllers can't be successfully overclocked and are locked at 124hz. Sony Playstation controllers come at 250hz but can be overclocked to 1000hz.
Yes, the Thumbsticks are pretty easy to desolder and put new ones on for anyone with basic solder experience
How have I only just found your channel 🤘
crazy how i searched for a scuf teardown, and am seeing all this time spent on a whole different controller, with comparisons nobody asked for.
and you don't even actually take it all apart. waste of a video
I'll see if I can satisfy your needs better next time
I have a reflex pro and the left side of the controller is super loose and feels hollow, I sent it in for them to fix it but it was tight for a day and then it got loose again kinda annoying. Do u recommend a fix to try to tight those faceplates up?
Any chance of a video going further and removing the front faceplate to get to the D-pad, recently received a custom scuff reflex but the right button on the D-pad is kind of stiff and sticky compared to the rest hoping I can fix to avoid international return to repair
same but with up and left
NIce video thanks it's very useful.
You are welcome
Has scuf improved the anologe sticks so they have less chance to get drift
no, they are exactly the same
Can you compare the analog sticks?
Are they still using same analog stick hardware (pontentiometer etc.)
If it’s the same, stick drift will come soon!
Thx for video
Exactly the same
@@GearsAndTech that’s a shame
Mine came with the right D-Pad having to be pressed significantly more than the others. Could be dust or something from the factory. Is there any way to reach it?
You would have to pull it apart. Most likely the rubber membrane is damaged or missaligned
That’s why I learned claw saved my self lots of money and can do what scuf players can do, maybe even better
My son has been telling me to claw for a while now.
I just can't see my fingers bending like that.
Maybe im just getting to old
But yes, if you can do claw, you're way better off
I have a question, if the Scuf sticks were to start drifting (Common DS5 issue..).. Would you be able to pop transplant in a new PCB assembly from another DS5 controller?. To keep the Scuf shape and function, but replace the sticks.
Yes, you could solder a new stick in
Or use the drift fix solder in solutions.
Eventually I'll do a video on those, just haven't got drift yet to need them
@@GearsAndTech Got it, thanks. My Dualsense started having this weird drift issues where it pulls left every now and then, and now reading and watching videos about it seems to be a potentiometer issue. Thinking about attempting a repair on it. Great videos by the way.
Hey mate would these thumbsticks fit on a regular ps5 controller without any modifications?
Yes, but you need to take the regular controller apart more to be able to stick them on
@@GearsAndTech Thank you. Have you actually tried it and put the controller back together to confirm it isn't rubbing and can move freely? taking the controller apart won't be an issue as I have done it a couple of times.
For what it's worth, I recommend you just do these instead
Adjustable height Thumbsticks - amzn.to/3FBt1Lg
I know they work for sure, and make it super easy to swap the thumb sticks afterwards
@@GearsAndTech Thanks for the recommendation but I have my heart set on the Scuf Reflex sticks.
From my research it looks like the issue will come from the front clip off shel, so I have ordered some larger friction rings designed for Xbox Elite (apparently they fit) and then drill the holes for the faceplate larger.
I'll keep you updated when it's done to let you know if it was a success or not.
If I was doing this I would shave the main controller shell bigger then so you can pop the Thumbsticks right out by only pulling the top plate off in the future.
You won't have any issues then and should not need to shave anything off the top trim plate so it keeps the factory look
Great video. So is it possible to replace the scuf reflex fps click triggers with the extremerate click triggers? Mine stopped clicking for both L2 and R2 and controller is out of warranty
yes, you should be able to. The workmanship of the scuff is a little low end though, so you risk breaking something else on the teardown
Nice review 👌
i wish u showed under the triggers to se the diff from scuf instant and stock
Sorry, once I saw the mess of wires I didn't want to go deeper.
My scuf constantly has an issue where my x button r3 button gets stuck “on”. So when I’m flying in warzone I can’t pull my parachute, I break my legs, and then the give up button is r3 so my teammates can’t even save me.
Turn on auto deploy in your settings.
Can I just pop off the R2 and L2 buttons same as the R1 and L1 I noticed they stayed on the whole time in your video.
They don't just pop off, need to remove from inside the controller
@@GearsAndTech my L2 is intermittently unresponsive during game play. Any suggestions?
Hey, i have a question!! My scuff reflex since lastnight everytime i press L2, L1 trigger it turns off the controller. I have pressed other buttons and everything works normal only when any of those 2 are pressed it turns off the controller. Any thoughts?
Sounds like something is shorting out
Same problem with mine
Did you fix it?
Wish someone would do an aftermarket larger capacity battery replacement video on a scuf ps5 controller!!!!
Not going to happen.
@@GearsAndTech why is it just impossible to do or?
Hello and thank your for this video, sorry but my english is so bad :)
So, if I understand well, it's possible to change the PS button of the Scuf controller with the realone (PS button) if I change the front panel too ? Thanks for your help !
Technically yes it is possible.
I don't know why you would want to change it though
@@GearsAndTech Just for the look, I prefer the PS logo 🙊
Hey I have a scuf and got the extremerate clicky hair trigger kit and was wondering if I can install that in my scuf reflex controller and with what BDM?
Yes. It'll work
My Refles FPS won't charge...or it's VERY hard to get it to. And if you do get it to 100% it don't last too long. Could it be the battery or is something preventing it from charging?
Seems like the charger port is broken
@@GearsAndTech hmm...I actually picked up a donor DS controller (bad drift on RS) thinking it's the battery. So I'm kinda screwed lol
@@GearsAndTech If I take the controller apart how can I confirm it's broken and can it be easily repaired? I can play withe USB cable plugged in no problem but battery icon might not fill up as mentioned. No way it's just a bad battery? Thanks
I bought a ps5 scuf on July of last year. Had to return it on January because the R2 stopped working. Got it back. They fix it for free, but had to make a fight for it. So, I was using it yesterday, and now the L2 button does not work..... in my opinion, just make your own controller instead of buying a scuf. I made my own, with parts I bought online, and it works perfectly fine still
Agreed. It's a hefty price to pay for someone else to just build it for you
So the red one.. I built with extremerate parts. The back button broke multiple times... I brought an aim controller... the back button broke... I brought a scuf reflex fps... I hope I dont have the same problem
This is surprising to me. I made my extreme rate controller a year ago and it's still working great. I game a couple hours almost every night
Damn so scuf reflex don’t have the new parts that the new color ways of ps5 have? I would figure since they have been out of stock maybe they updated them but that means drift will still be a problem eventually…anybody experiencing drift on reflex or the new ps5 controllers ? (Light blue , pink, or purple,)?
Light blue dualsense not yet. But I’ve only had it a month. But the dualsense that came with my console got drift after about a year. I took it apart and cleaned it now it’s good to go
Hey, a little confused with your intro. Most modded controller companies start with a standard dual sense controller. Companies such as Aim, Hex Gaming, and Scuf.
Yes. Exactly.
But what's the quality of the internal back paddle buttons mounted on the battery tray? Is it just the same kind of dome switches that broke on my PS4 Scuf housed under those tiny metal boxes with the button nubs sticking out? Or are they some kind of good quality switches, like what Corsair would use in their keyboards? Those dome switches were definitely a problem for many people with the pre-Corsair Scuf controllers. I'm just a casual gamer and one of mine broke right as the warranty expired. And I'm not paying Scuf (probably at least the price of a Sony controller from what I hear) to fix a part that is essential in making it what I paid a premium price for and should have a lifetime warranty for that reason. (and you can't find replacements for them either) This is something that people considering a Scuf should know before they make that call. I know I wouldn't buy a Scuf again without knowing this and a better warranty from them. My Dualshock 4 Back Button Attachment works perfectly and has already outlasted a controller. And I also did the eXremerate metal 2 paddle mod to my Dualsense controller and am eXtremely pleased with it. (pun obviously intended) My advice is to go with the much better value and ease of replacement of the eXtremerate mods and give Scuf a pass. p.s. - It's also kind of telling that Scuf used the original Dualsense PCB, the 010 version that Sony has already switched from to the 020 version well before the Reflex became available. Not a good sign.
Is there a video on how to put the clicks trigger on a scuff reflex controller?
You would just have to use method I showed in a different video on the regular controller.
It's the exact same process
@@GearsAndTech what about the rat nest under the motherboard, will it be in the way?
No, the clicky triggers are pretty much the same as factory once installed. So it'll go in and back together nicely
not worth it. ive bought two in the last two months and both have had problems. first one the tiger stopped working. second the paddles stopped mapping.
I had mines for awhile now but now I’m having trouble. I have the fps version and having trouble with the mic. I plug in my headset and it doesn’t work but the same headset works on all my other ps5 controllers. When I press r1 or r2 my controller disconnects.
I’ve put extremerate parts in my standard ps5 controllers but I’m scared to take down the scuf.
Nvm got it the ribbon was loose.
Glad you got it sorted
@@GearsAndTech Thank you, I wasn’t able to fix the headphone jack but imma just get wireless headset.
can i remove even if digital triggers?
Love how you start pulling it apart and say "don't worry about that breaking sound" and then skip ahead to where you already have it apart... Really well detailed teardown... Not! That's the most important part, what happened? Did YOU break it?
No. The clips just complain when they let go
The next step after that breaking sound is to just open it up
@@GearsAndTech and the outer shell wasn't tweaked or bent?
No. They always make that sound. I've taken a bunch of these apart and they all do it
Thank you for the wonderful video! Are you planning to use the eXtremeRate Clicky Hair Trigger Kit?
I actually am so used to the clicky triggers that I went back to my extreme rate modded controller.
My long term test review is coming out soon for this controller
Can the reflex thumbstick fit the dualsense? I know the Impact series does
Yes
Could you swap the clicky triggers to a edge?
I don't think so. Edge has trigger stops already
@@GearsAndTech there not clicky tho
It’s like the elite. Half way stop thing. I don’t like it but I love the edge. If I can get clicky triggers on it I’d be happy lol
Bro i can not get the back of the controller to come apart
So amazing always wonder how it look inside 🙌😎
My R2 button doesn’t work for scuf how would I fix it?
New button
... we just pop this front face plate out..... cut. What happened?
Im experiencing a left analog stick drift problem on the scuf reflex. The left stick just keeps moving left on its own. Ive compressed it out, used rubbing alcohol and a qtip, no fixes. I reached out to scuf yesterday cause it is still under warranty but the havent replied yet.
Have you fixed this yet? My Scuf Reflex started doing that last week. Tried all of the things you did but with no luck
I sent my controller into scuf under warranty on dec 27th and its still under process.
I got my controller back on feb 2nd i think. Works great
@@dirtycurt503 Got mine back the other day too and works fine haha. They covered it under the warranty
How do u take off the R2 and L2 triggers for the Reflex?
You have to pull it apart
Hello nobody said it wasn't a Sony controller lol. Scuf had to pay licensing fees but now have created their own so it's much cheaper, sure it was expensive but it was customised specially with the mouse click triggers. I have a Scuf Reflex FPS but after a year it has stick drift so I just upgraded to a Sony Daulsense Edge. I didnt even know about their own new controller the Scuf Envision which I would really like as it's comes with 1000hz polling rate two extra buttons on the sides so 6 extra buttons compared to Sony 2 extra that are always accessible and usable for gaming. The replacable thumb sticks are so good though. I don't like having to use hidusbf and DS4 windows just to get 1ms. Hidusbf on it's own doesn't overclock to 1ms I think it's due to the software not supporting the controller properly, it shouldn't have the 2K an 8K options. 8K isn't as fast as hidusbf at 1K with DS4. Sadly DSX doesn't seem to push the controller refresh rate up to 1K (1ms, 0.5-1.0ms) like DS4 does even with hidusbf at 1K or 8K. I had to get my hands on a PS5 to save profiles so I could use it with DS4 to get that faster response time. If you don't care about 1ms or cant tell the difference just use DSX to bind the pedals to whatever buttons you want on the Sony Dualsense Edge for PC use.
Their new controller is for pc only
I'm having a problem with my scuffed controller where when I try to turn it on it flashed yellow and it's been on the charger all night and day does anyone know how to fix it.
Does it work when connected directly to ps5?
Please help.. I had my scuf fps reflex controller R1 button break. How do I fix this? I don’t want to wait for long service wait time. If it’a really simple to fix.
Depends whats broken
If it's the button itself then pop it off and pop a new one on
If it's the function of it. Like it pushes in but doesn't do anything.... Look at switching the buttons out with clicky triggers from extreme rate
@@GearsAndTech It’s the backing of the button that activates the function of the r1 button. I can see it floating around 😖.
Oh that sucks.
Unfortunately regular ps5 buttons don't work in the scuff controller. So you need a replacement button. But they could maybe ship you one and you can swap yourself
I would like to have a SCUF style controller but SCUF has a bad reputation with customer support. I’ve read more bad reviews than good reviews about how long their controllers last
Will I face same problems I face in ps5 controller
you forgot one crucial component you did not check if it uses the same analog stick, if it uses high quality stick if so that alone worth the hustle of having a drift.
Same stick. Drift happens a lot
Sony and Xbox probably send scuf blank shells or sends them a mold they can use since every pro gamer goes with scuf even though their products are hit or miss
Thanks for this very informative video. I'm curious how it fairs after a month of regular-to-heavy usage. I remember the couple of scuffs i bought before for the PS4, and at both times, the controller back paddles/buttons were very less responsive after about 2 to 3 months of use only. Thank you for your reply.
That’s usually due to sweat/dirt build up.. Clean it and I’m sure it will be back to normal. I have an Impact from 2017 that feels just like new.
I had the same issue. For me, it was the square metal tactile domes that broke. I had to open my SCUF many times to replace them, which would make the controller feel brand new. Then I ended up snapping the ribbon cables on accident which rendered it broken.
So you are screwed if you wanted to put the PS5 🔳⭕️❌🔼 buttons on the Scuf.
From what I can tell those would be able to be put on
Question if you catch stick drift is it easy to just change the modules That’ll be nice video
The modules are not swapable.
Its shit had mine less than a year both sticks are dieing
Can anyone help me regarding the same input for l3 and r3? Everything works fine but every time I press l3; let’s say for sprinting it also presses r3 which makes me crouch.
Other guy that had that issue said the cable was backwards (I think)
Would require you to open it up to check
Must have a bad batch
Yeah I bought the first batch actually; but I think it’s due to maybe the controller taking a hard fall. I opened it up, verified the cables and tightened it a bit more than usual and it seemed to have fixed it.
Thanks for the vid
There’s different versions of the dualsense controller some have epoxy on the haptics others dont
I've had the red, black and white apart and none of them had that epoxy on them.
At some point I'll have the blue ones apart, so I'll check that one. But I haven't come across any with that epoxy except the scuf
@@GearsAndTech my first ever controller (like the one that comes w the console) I had had the epoxy thing so I’m assuming it must’ve been in the older dualsenses idk all the other ones I had don’t have that tho
The first one I took apart was a day one console controller, no epoxy
Which region are you in? Perhaps only certain regions got them. This is interesting.
@@GearsAndTech oh damn I mean I’m from uk Idk when u got ur ps5 but I got mine end of jan last year
I got mine in November 2020. It was a day one launch
But the scuf reflex fps isn't $360...it's $240 fully customized....the reflex fps also has instant clicky triggers.
Canadian dollars. Our money isn't as good as yours
Great video 👌👌👌
Hi, what you said 5:00 about the faceplate is not correct as there are a lot more of little plastic clips and divots on the original dualsense faceplate. Otherwise, thanks for the video ✌️
Thanks for the info!
Great Video! Liked and Subscribed. I’m having a issue on a almost brand new SCUF reflex PS5 r3 engages l3 and vice versa, I’ve reset and recalibrated, compressed air and alcohol but haven’t taken the controller completely apart yet. If I sent 50 dollar venmo/PayPal, would you please zoom with me for a trouble shoot? Or any advice? Thanks!
That's weird. Only thing I can think is they soldered the wires for r3 and l3 backwards.
East fix is just cut those wires and tape them so they don't touch anything and hope you don't want to remap the back buttons to r3 or l3
@@GearsAndTech they engage their functionality but also the other: example when I try and sprint in COD I’m constantly meleeing without hitting the R3
@@GearsAndTech got it fixed, there was a ribbon that looked out of place based on the video of your open SCUF, it was the ribbon right under L3, then also tightened the screw that hold the mother board to the battery bracket. I’m cracked again
@@dudleysewell792 life saver; I really didn’t want to pay for shipping or wait either thank you so much
Hey I really appreciate putting out a teardown of the controller! I have a question for you...Dropped my Reflex a couple nights ago and one of the paddles stopped working. Three of them work fine but seems like the one has lost all functionality. Do you think repairing it myself is viable?
I'm not sure about your specific technical ability.
But with my basic skills I would certainly take it apart and try myself to fix it
@@GearsAndTech Thanks for the Tear down. I am trying to fix the drift in my Scuf Reflex in the left thumb stick. I tried to replace the Potentiometers for the left Stick. You have to do a tear-down to get the sides of the JoyStick Cube to open up enough. I was hoping that your video would go that far with the tear-down.
Sorry. That's a job I'm not interested in
@@GearsAndTech Not sure if you care. But all that I had to do was detach three ribbons and the Circut board was able to be flipped over and I was able to finish the replacement of the Potentiometers. The Rat nest came out as a clump once. not as scary as it looked. Keep up the great content. You help more then you know.
Not going far enough in my opinion and I can warn you "don’t worry for the breaking sounds", worry about since it mean you broke a small plastic part 😅 (probably not mandatory but still, I can tell later)
i'm wondering if the scuf has the 1000 pollingrate activated instead of 250 on original for faster respons time , anybody knows this ?
Excellent question. Unfortunately I don't have this answer
@@GearsAndTech th-cam.com/video/ZBLa1FCfkbs/w-d-xo.html
Can you turn the adaptive triggers off on PC ?
Adaptive triggers are off on pc always. You can't turn them on
@@GearsAndTech So if I buy the reflex pro ps5 to play on pc the adaptive triggers won’t work ?
@@GearsAndTech I did ask someone else and they was playing on pc with the reflex pro ps5 and said you can’t turn them off ?
They don't understand the question
The triggers will not be adaptive, they will still be variable. But the resistance won't change at all. That's specifically programmed into the ps5 to activate
@@GearsAndTech Right, when you say variable what do you mean ?
Sell some of them cars you can fund this channel forever 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣
Sorry my man, those are just a green screen.
False advertising I know. But somebody once said to fake it till you make it
I did Scuf online and with taxes and shipping it was 381$ They must be out of their minds that ill pay that money for PS5 controller
I have a ps5 reflex scuf and it only lasted 8 months. This crap cost 200US and its not worth it. I sent to purchase the joystick replacement and its its a hell of a job to weld the new part. Imposible.
The only 3rd party controller Scuf ever made was Scuf Vantage 1&2 . Everting else it’s a modification!
Sony does not allow third party controllers, because then other people would make controllers that do not have haptic feedback and adaptive' triggers. Sonyt wants developers to use these controller features in their games. That is why they encrypted the dualsense for alll ps5 games. Breaking the encreption is offcourse illegal. So if sony decides to keep the arrangement this way, then there will never be official thirdparty controllers. Or the may in the feuture allow company's to make a controller if they pay sony money so they would get acces to the encyption code/keys.
You can’t say $360 price tags and say you don’t have the right quick triggers
Good video . What I don't understand is why people.buy 300 dollar controllers to play in public lobbies .
If they didn’t change the analog sticks then it sucks🤷♂️ happy with my extreme rate
Smontaggio e sostituzione analogico SCUF REFLEX
th-cam.com/video/dTHBNCZtAyI/w-d-xo.html
Mega ho trovato un tuo collega che ha riparato il mio reflex. Metto il link qui per la comunity
Grazie 💪