A black legion squad was the first models I ever painted and honestly painting the trim was the most fun I had. It might be because I enjoyed the slow pace and I found it very relaxing. I can't wait to do bigger models
While painting Bringers of Decay (Black Legion Plague Marines) I dicovered that Valejo Black mixed with a wee bit of Retributor Armor produces a black with a slight worn out look which would look amazing with that paint pen.
Phil this a much needed tutorial for those of us who are daunted by the more official guides, I’d love to see more of these. Yours looks great with such a reduced amount of effort!
So glad I found this. I have a squad of chaos marines I want to paint up as Black Legion but for whatever reason, I just can’t do black armour justice. With this method though, I think I could.
The Black Legion is my first, favorite and largest army. I rarely even call them a CSM army as they will always be Black Legion even if GW gave them the worst rules in all of 40k. Your paint scheme is very good and quite efficient. However, I am well into how my paint mine with 66 CSM, 20 Raptors, 10 Warp Talons, 30 Terminators 25 Havocs and hellva lot more stuff in black and gold. So much so, even my Chaos Knights are in Black Legion colors. I am well past feeling any pain about painting gold trim on black models. Me, I like Vallejo Black with Vallejo Old Gold trim. As to not favor any Chaos god, I chose white for any cloth goods. I pick out skull and bone with Vallejo Buff to give it a yellowed grungy look. I use Agrax Earthshade which I like how is shades the gold. Ultimately, my Black Legion is a lot darker and desaturated than yours. Which sure, can hide some details at a distance, but I like the effect just the same. However, despite the time I put into my Black Legion, I don't think they look much different to yours in quality. That paint pen trick was amazing. Kudos.
i have good quality airbrush and lots of paints etc, all the guides ive seen for black legion end up look so clean - totally not what i imagine for chaos - at least black legion. i also like too this scheme allows to see the curvature and how the model looks, not lost like in a black hole. im going to use this scheme for mine - heck maybe even my abbadon's black panels - thanks for sharing!
Never would of thought of those gold paint pens for that! Im in middle of 2000 points black legion build and have them all primed black (i painted the executioner already!) So im on way out to get a few of those pens !!
Very simple and will be useful in the future. I am coming back to 40k after a long qbsence(6th ed). Black legion will be my go to and dont tell Abaddon...Blqck Templars lol
Hey man what was that primer you used? I liked the texture it had, also thanks for the video , haven't fielded a warhammer army in 25 years so safe to say my painting abilities are rusty lol *Black Legion for the win!*
13th did gone and went already, dread lord Geek. Twice. It's 14th next. Or 13.3-eth. We'll see... But so now we get tips how to paint miniatures at a Glacial phase, eh? Can't say I need those. I got that down to near impossible to see speed. :D Still haven't paid a single miniature this year. XD
Not all paint pens are equal! The sharpie brand go on the mini fine but the gold is awful flat and matt! The metal body pens are the ones you need, also if you go to an art store they have them with different tip/nib size right down to a really fine one! Im currently painting 2000 points of black legion!! Not much has changed over last few weeks!
I’m about to start a Black Legion army this weekend and my first models are going to be Chosen! Question, if I feel like the black is too grey would a second coat of Grim Black solve my issue or would that ruin it? I also thought of using Speedpaint Medium for the second coat of black just to darken it ever so slightly.
Give one coat a try and if you want it darker you can apply a second coat once it is fully dried. You won't have as pronounced a contrasted effect (since the second coat will bring the highlights closer to the recessed shade) but it won't ruin anything 🙂
I may have commented to early. Because I was frustrated that the GW gold didn't match the paint pen. I may give the pen a go again on a unit of rubric Marines I have
I do like it! It's from Game Envy and you stick your models to soda bottle tops and they twist onto the handle for easy swapping while batch painting! 😀
The models and the paint scheme pull a ton of weight. I had my elderly neighbor, who has no idea what 40k is, paint an intercessor and after the armor and gun had a single base he remarked on how good it looked with out a lot done to it. No reason to go over board if you enjoy the game more than painting. This is definitely "battle ready".
I recently saw someone do that in a tutorial and it looked just as frustrating as painting in the trim ... I think the CSM models are going to be some level of frustrating either way, it just comes down to how much control you think you have either with painting trim or around trim.
For a zenithal prime, you prime the model black then spray white primer or, if using an airbrush, white ink from mostly above to enhance the highlights and the shadows. It then acts to enhance the highlights and shadows when you paint it, especially with translucent paints like Speedpaints or Contrast paints. As for painting white over a black prime, it just takes patience. It will probably take a few layers to completely cover it, but it is possible. The other option, especially if you are dealing with predominantly bright colors or white, is to prime the model white.
![Painting Black Legion, or "How I Went Mad and Turned to Chaos" [How I Paint Things]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/AXLtEZhEYSg/mqdefault.jpg)
A black legion squad was the first models I ever painted and honestly painting the trim was the most fun I had. It might be because I enjoyed the slow pace and I found it very relaxing. I can't wait to do bigger models
Very good for a quick CSM, especially BL notorious for people who drybrush seven greys to basically no effect
While painting Bringers of Decay (Black Legion Plague Marines) I dicovered that Valejo Black mixed with a wee bit of Retributor Armor produces a black with a slight worn out look which would look amazing with that paint pen.
Phil this a much needed tutorial for those of us who are daunted by the more official guides, I’d love to see more of these. Yours looks great with such a reduced amount of effort!
So glad I found this. I have a squad of chaos marines I want to paint up as Black Legion but for whatever reason, I just can’t do black armour justice. With this method though, I think I could.
You are insanely good at this man. Wow. Thanks for the tips.
The Black Legion is my first, favorite and largest army. I rarely even call them a CSM army as they will always be Black Legion even if GW gave them the worst rules in all of 40k.
Your paint scheme is very good and quite efficient. However, I am well into how my paint mine with 66 CSM, 20 Raptors, 10 Warp Talons, 30 Terminators 25 Havocs and hellva lot more stuff in black and gold. So much so, even my Chaos Knights are in Black Legion colors. I am well past feeling any pain about painting gold trim on black models.
Me, I like Vallejo Black with Vallejo Old Gold trim. As to not favor any Chaos god, I chose white for any cloth goods. I pick out skull and bone with Vallejo Buff to give it a yellowed grungy look. I use Agrax Earthshade which I like how is shades the gold. Ultimately, my Black Legion is a lot darker and desaturated than yours. Which sure, can hide some details at a distance, but I like the effect just the same.
However, despite the time I put into my Black Legion, I don't think they look much different to yours in quality. That paint pen trick was amazing. Kudos.
your guide really help for a newbie like me, i watch some painting video and they use like ~20 color for 1 model and it make me panic
i have good quality airbrush and lots of paints etc, all the guides ive seen for black legion end up look so clean - totally not what i imagine for chaos - at least black legion. i also like too this scheme allows to see the curvature and how the model looks, not lost like in a black hole. im going to use this scheme for mine - heck maybe even my abbadon's black panels - thanks for sharing!
Nice. I love quick battle ready tutorials. I doubt I'll ever have the patience to be a master but I like these quick easy guides.
Really helpful man imma pick up a paint pen
Brilliant. Thank you very much for posting Mr G.Geek
It's always good to get a little trim.
I already saw this! I commented once! Took your advice and now im giving my own tips! Lol!
I actually really like the gray highlights on the black because it looks like a coat of ash covering the armor, which matches the base.
Never would of thought of those gold paint pens for that! Im in middle of 2000 points black legion build and have them all primed black (i painted the executioner already!) So im on way out to get a few of those pens !!
I use the same gold pen for my Armies
Very simple and will be useful in the future. I am coming back to 40k after a long qbsence(6th ed). Black legion will be my go to and dont tell Abaddon...Blqck Templars lol
thanks to you im about to get a chaos army started, the only thing keeping me away was the painting difficulty
You're welcome 😏
Hey man what was that primer you used? I liked the texture it had, also thanks for the video , haven't fielded a warhammer army in 25 years so safe to say my painting abilities are rusty lol *Black Legion for the win!*
The ''Look'' is cool but they look more like Iron Fists.
Because of the light greyish colour.
13th did gone and went already, dread lord Geek. Twice. It's 14th next. Or 13.3-eth. We'll see...
But so now we get tips how to paint miniatures at a Glacial phase, eh? Can't say I need those. I got that down to near impossible to see speed. :D
Still haven't paid a single miniature this year. XD
and then you have looking at my DG....
Necroticflesh primer and coelia greenshade looking putrid choir with brass trim
I've seen you so many times on MWG but this I've never subbed what's wrong with me. Your energy is wonderful.
The newer chaos models trim is kind of rough in every corner scheme though
Not all paint pens are equal! The sharpie brand go on the mini fine but the gold is awful flat and matt! The metal body pens are the ones you need, also if you go to an art store they have them with different tip/nib size right down to a really fine one!
Im currently painting 2000 points of black legion!! Not much has changed over last few weeks!
I’m about to start a Black Legion army this weekend and my first models are going to be Chosen! Question, if I feel like the black is too grey would a second coat of Grim Black solve my issue or would that ruin it? I also thought of using Speedpaint Medium for the second coat of black just to darken it ever so slightly.
Who knows though maybe I have to see it in person and the lighting at the end makes it look more grey than it is.
Give one coat a try and if you want it darker you can apply a second coat once it is fully dried. You won't have as pronounced a contrasted effect (since the second coat will bring the highlights closer to the recessed shade) but it won't ruin anything 🙂
Thanks for the reply! Replying to questions on a video that’s a year old really shows that you care about the community!
I have tried the paint pin before. After going through 4 of them I gave up
I may have commented to early. Because I was frustrated that the GW gold didn't match the paint pen. I may give the pen a go again on a unit of rubric Marines I have
Paint Pens FTW!!! I feel your pain Brother! Tsons paint so much faster with paint pens! Oof!
what if I'm already bald? lmao!!!
What is your handle thing? Do you like it? I'm looking into getting one but have no idea
I do like it! It's from Game Envy and you stick your models to soda bottle tops and they twist onto the handle for easy swapping while batch painting! 😀
@@TheGlacialGeek with what, like blue tack?
Well... Guess, I ll have to repaint my whole Black Legion army now ... Nevertheless thank you for the video
The models and the paint scheme pull a ton of weight. I had my elderly neighbor, who has no idea what 40k is, paint an intercessor and after the armor and gun had a single base he remarked on how good it looked with out a lot done to it. No reason to go over board if you enjoy the game more than painting. This is definitely "battle ready".
What would u say about priming in gold and paint in black?
I recently saw someone do that in a tutorial and it looked just as frustrating as painting in the trim ... I think the CSM models are going to be some level of frustrating either way, it just comes down to how much control you think you have either with painting trim or around trim.
I saw someone do warp talons that way but still got to paint masses of tedious black round the gold, same trustration in reverse!
You mean the grey legion, right?
True black looks dull on models ... Dark grey looks much better as a dimensional black
How do I do a black undercoat and a white over coat?
Do you mean a zenithal highlight with primer, or do you mean how to paint white on black?
@@TheGlacialGeek both please
For a zenithal prime, you prime the model black then spray white primer or, if using an airbrush, white ink from mostly above to enhance the highlights and the shadows. It then acts to enhance the highlights and shadows when you paint it, especially with translucent paints like Speedpaints or Contrast paints.
As for painting white over a black prime, it just takes patience. It will probably take a few layers to completely cover it, but it is possible. The other option, especially if you are dealing with predominantly bright colors or white, is to prime the model white.
@@TheGlacialGeek thankks so much this is super helpful vid