@@Agni_- Idk, I played the PS1 version and they were still completely broken. In large encounters I'd shock all but 1 or 2 enemies usually, and most bosses never even got to hit me because of shock.
I'm reminded of some monsters in Devil May Cry, which had a note about them evolving over centuries to become more immune to all possible threats they could face in the mortal world, based on experiences in the past, hence why swords and fists don't do much damage to them. Guns on the other hand.....
I’m not playing p3 reload since it doesn’t have female protagonist,answer,and especially since it doesn’t have the og voices I HOPE TO GOD THEY PUT AN OPTION WHERE YOU CAN TURN ON THE OG VOICES
14:46 i've heard a couple explanations for this -abrahamic god's judgement is sometimes described as lightning -yhvh is a fatherly god archetype, like odin -some american nukes were named after thor -thor's hammer is analogous to the cross -law in smt1 included many deities, such as vishnu
Guns are actually the best weapons in SMT 1, because you can load them with sleep/bind//charm rounds. This lets you stunlock (especially if you've been upping your character's luck, which is super easy to do in Tokyo Destiny Island) demons, including bosses, and since the damage is just based on the gun alone, even your physically weakest partner can do respectable damage. It's a cheesy strategy for sure, but SMT 1 is all cheese in terms of combat.
You talk about how it's something we shouldn't question that the MP5 can be loaded with shotgun shells... But what gets me is that the shotgun shells can be used by either gender, which reminds me that this game has gender locked ammo
See, similarly to SJ, magic also affects the damage you take from magic attacks. It also affects item damage. Pretty sure you can get the item version of Megido absurdly early and nuke every encounter up until Zenki and Goki
@@--_--_--_--_ In his "top 10 worst demons" video, one of the demons was Pisaca, because when he was younger he stumbled across a doujin of the Devil Survivor 2 girls getting a train run on them by various demons, mainly Pisaca.
Dear god yes. the literal best smt youtuber making some of his best kind of content. challenge runs. now I just need him to do SMTV no buffs and P%R with just arsene as somehow no one has actually finished that run and then itll be perfect. well also the whole smt series but im sure he's already on it.
P5R Arsene only seems too trivial for a video. Hell, I’m a casual who doesn’t do challenge runs, and even I did, like, 95% of Royal Arsene only-on my first run of that version of P5-for the hell of it. Only problem I came up against was Shido’s last phase being a problem if your Persona has common weaknesses.
This comment has very “how I played Nocturne” vibes. I had the HD Remaster already, but I sat on it until watching Nyarly’s no buffs run made me want to play it. Real glad I did, that game is a masterpiece.
Without watching the video: probably yeah, zio is broken and Phys builds are really strong, I spent a lot of the game without demons summoned because I thought I was wasting mag, but I also went to most bosses with the full party, maybe there are some really hard moments in the challenge
To be clear what Nyrarly meant by testing luck is rolling a number from 0-41 starting at 1 with a max of 40, if it rolls above you, you’ve got an ailment, if it rolls under or equal to you, your safe
Alternate title: “Nyarly tried his best but still needed estoma/demon help because classic smt can have such BS encounter rates”, I say this as like, THE biggest fan of classic smt, my favorite games in the franchise that aren’t my first game, persona 5, are almost entirely classics
I still freaking love why you get thrown into that jail/hospital deal at the start. You witnessed a demon murdering someone and took a weapon from the scene, what did you think would happen?
Fun fact about Thor in the SNES version. He may be the god of thunder but he’s not immune to Zio and therefore not immune to shock… but he also knows Zio. Basically the difficulty in Snes SMT 1 is determined by 2 things. Does the boss know Zio and does the boss resist Zio?
I would love so much if they remake shin megami tensei, it was the first megaten game I played back then when I discovered there was people translating jrpgs on the snes... I love it so much.
i adore Tom's work, but i'll always have love for that original trnaslation. it's janky and odd, but i'm attached to it because of the memories. if i'm playing SMT1 again, i always go back to it. Tom's work is amazing. i wish Atlus would translate more like Tom.
3:50 the way that scene played out in the SNES I always thought he was a drug addict who got infected with a demon seed and the demon ripped out of his body
27:10 when you give Law hero's gf the revival incense, the law hero laments from the PSX version: [Name], I wanted to see you once more... But... not like this...
Hoping you do this for SMT2.l as well. While overpowered humans are still a thing, that game also made significant balance changes to fix the more broken stuff from 1 like Zio and Bufu stunlocking everything while in general also upping boss difficulty.
9:57 In my playthrough of this game, i got not just one, but TWO Triple Staff drops from the Orcs in the Research Lab, which meant that i was totally set for weapons all the way until the alignment weapons at the end of the underworld 🙌
I've played through SMT1 3 times many years ago (and got all 3 endings). My go-to tactic for my human characters in all 3 runs was using multi-hit guns with nerve bullets. Iirc, those would constantly put enemies to sleep, then if they woke up they'd get put to sleep again before getting a chance to act due to my characters having higher speed. I don't remember any boss that was immune to nerve damage, and I basically stun-locked them all 'til they died - including the final bosses in all of the 3 routes. Iirc, there were also "cursed bullets" that could inflict bind on enemies, but they had a lot lower chance of inflicting the effect than nerve bullets, hence why I stuck with those. While Belial is *supposed* to be unkillable, you *can* actually hurt it by reflecting its own attacks using demons with passive physical and magic/fire reflection (like Tamamo, Mezuki and Gozuki). Do note that damage-reflection spells like Tetrakarn and Makarakarn *don't* work - only demons with passive affinity reflection do. Also, you can't actually kill it, as the fight automatically ends after 3 turns and you can't reflect enough damage to kill it that fast (at least, to my knowledge).
I was like "whoaaa" for a second until I remembered I played most of the game like this. The human characters are cracked, no need for demons a vast majority of the time
Characters Nyarly has named/nicknamed after Yukiko in challenge runs: - Alex - SMT1 Heroine Probably a coincidence but it'd equally be funny if this just slowly became a recurring gag in these runs
I cleared most of the endgame SNES SMT with just the protagonist and heroine with both of them using multi-hit guns with nerve bullets. It clears every encounter.
Funnily enough, Magic is useful for increasing consumable damage. Ever since the PSX English patch dropped, there have been a few speedrunners who completed the entire game in
I feel like the more interesting direction for challenge runs of these old games is to do it demon only, like human party members can only defend (vit build time) and demons are the only ones who can attack for you. the humans are just too good in these game. grinding will still play a factor for sure though
You can literally solo this game with just the heroine. Just put all your points into speed and magic and spam mazio spells or charm bullets with an SMG. Enemies won't be able to touch you, ever, not even bosses.That's how broken SMT1 is.
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Pov: You didn't download the demon summoning program from Steven
nah, bro's doesn't want any virus
It's not worth dealing with the hot single milfs in my area
Couldn't risk it being another russian virus
The answer is Yes guns are really useful in this and specing in physical is pretty much our only option
So playing like the doom slayer is a legit option in smt 1
@@starmaker75 Yes. Yes indeed.
Considering he’s playing a different version than Marsh did, I have to ask: are the Lightning/stun bullets still broken as f$&@?
@@isenokami7810 Status effects have been nerfed in this version but they are still really good
@@Agni_- Idk, I played the PS1 version and they were still completely broken. In large encounters I'd shock all but 1 or 2 enemies usually, and most bosses never even got to hit me because of shock.
The best way to scare Nyarly at a halloween party is to dress up as a ghost and pop out yelling "Shiba-BOO!"
😂😂😂
Demons might be strong but they’re not immune to the *GLOCK*
Gotta love it when games are realistic
"We'll beat them with the power of teamwork and these guns we found!"
I'm reminded of some monsters in Devil May Cry, which had a note about them evolving over centuries to become more immune to all possible threats they could face in the mortal world, based on experiences in the past, hence why swords and fists don't do much damage to them. Guns on the other hand.....
Makes Me think of Devilman where the weak lesser demons can be killed by anything but the stronger demons can only be killed by angels or other demons
I may be out of MP but I'm not out of options!
Nyarly would beat every megaten game blindfold before reviewing P3R
I think he rather play p3r then play smt 9
@@speedkingoz5879 I won’t play that game either
I’m not playing p3 reload since it doesn’t have female protagonist,answer,and especially since it doesn’t have the og voices I HOPE TO GOD THEY PUT AN OPTION WHERE YOU CAN TURN ON THE OG VOICES
@@i5rrxxgaming350it’s a remake, how are they going to have original voices when the script is rewritten?
@@MitsurugiR then the og voices can read the re written script
Me: so what about that p3r vide-
Nyarly: EVERY SMT GAME WITHOUT DEMONS BLINDFOLDED
14:46 i've heard a couple explanations for this
-abrahamic god's judgement is sometimes described as lightning
-yhvh is a fatherly god archetype, like odin
-some american nukes were named after thor
-thor's hammer is analogous to the cross
-law in smt1 included many deities, such as vishnu
Guns are actually the best weapons in SMT 1, because you can load them with sleep/bind//charm rounds. This lets you stunlock (especially if you've been upping your character's luck, which is super easy to do in Tokyo Destiny Island) demons, including bosses, and since the damage is just based on the gun alone, even your physically weakest partner can do respectable damage.
It's a cheesy strategy for sure, but SMT 1 is all cheese in terms of combat.
44:09 - 44:18
This what hours of SMT does to a man.
😔 he will never be the same because of those Zio attacks (and shibaboon)
YHVH: This is a test-
Hoomans: Haha guns go brrrr 🔫
Sirlionheart: ZIOOOOOOO ....
@@nr2676oh wow it's been a long time since I heard that name 😅
*Shibabo intensified*
26:55 had me laughing for a good bit. “So no I ain’t helping you can stay here and ROT”
44:15 I can FEEL the spit hitting your mic here
44:00 "pew pew cling " is the highlight of the challenge
My take on SMT1 Guns: "I got 57 more goddamn rounds in this 4 round magazine."
"He hits me with that cool summer breeze" -Nyarly
Ngl Pretty Badass.
Nyarly geniuenly tweaking after the boss uses shibaboo for the 99999999999th time:
nice music break 27:20
I love these breaks from the constant lean into progressing through the story to have some fun. Hope it shows up more in videos
You talk about how it's something we shouldn't question that the MP5 can be loaded with shotgun shells... But what gets me is that the shotgun shells can be used by either gender, which reminds me that this game has gender locked ammo
Now that has to be the funniest and most stupid mechanic I've ever seen in an JRPG.
See, similarly to SJ, magic also affects the damage you take from magic attacks. It also affects item damage. Pretty sure you can get the item version of Megido absurdly early and nuke every encounter up until Zenki and Goki
Yeah, you can buy Light Arrows and Holy Waters really really early and just spam them.
I believe that's what the cheatless speedrun does lol.
Two Nyarly challenges in under a week? We are truly blessed. Thanks for all of this.
13:09 **cue PTSD flashbacks to that one doujin Nyarly stumbled upon**
what doujin?
@@--_--_--_--_Io getting the runaroundandaround with a Pisaca
@@kichiroumitsurugi4363☠️
@@--_--_--_--_ In his "top 10 worst demons" video, one of the demons was Pisaca, because when he was younger he stumbled across a doujin of the Devil Survivor 2 girls getting a train run on them by various demons, mainly Pisaca.
@@PlayerZeroStart interesting, do you know the name of the doujin?
Dear god yes. the literal best smt youtuber making some of his best kind of content. challenge runs. now I just need him to do SMTV no buffs and P%R with just arsene as somehow no one has actually finished that run and then itll be perfect. well also the whole smt series but im sure he's already on it.
P5R Arsene only is easy
Ragnar did SMT V with no buffs
@@kichiroumitsurugi4363 They were all easy. Doesn't make it less entertaining. And so?
P%R lmao
P5R Arsene only seems too trivial for a video. Hell, I’m a casual who doesn’t do challenge runs, and even I did, like, 95% of Royal Arsene only-on my first run of that version of P5-for the hell of it. Only problem I came up against was Shido’s last phase being a problem if your Persona has common weaknesses.
Omg dude, I just started playing smt1, and was so sad to see you havent played it on you channel yet. Now I can spoil myself
This comment has very “how I played Nocturne” vibes. I had the HD Remaster already, but I sat on it until watching Nyarly’s no buffs run made me want to play it. Real glad I did, that game is a masterpiece.
@@isenokami7810 he really is the spokesperson for smt on the west
I can't express how much I love these type of videos lol
Without watching the video: probably yeah, zio is broken and Phys builds are really strong, I spent a lot of the game without demons summoned because I thought I was wasting mag, but I also went to most bosses with the full party, maybe there are some really hard moments in the challenge
This port is gorgeous! Also happy to see older SMT titles making a comeback in the community! Need to get ya to play last Bible 3
To be clear what Nyrarly meant by testing luck is rolling a number from 0-41 starting at 1 with a max of 40, if it rolls above you, you’ve got an ailment, if it rolls under or equal to you, your safe
Love the early-series weirdness that both SMT and Persona seem to have.
YESS! Can't wait to watch. I can see the charm bullets in my mind
It’s simple I see a nyarly video I stop what I’m doing and watch it. I love your content
This isn't so much a "challenge run" as it is "playing SMT1 slightly less optimally than normal"
So a challenge
@@moonlight2870 The joke is that SMT1 isn't hard
10/10 Sound effects for Auto Battle Nyarly.
Yesssss! Waited for an old school Megaten Challenge
new cursed gun image, MP5 loaded with shotgun shells, almost on par with the AK loaded with the ultra banana magazine
yo i was rewatching the older challenge videos last night perfect timing
its always fun to see where "die for me" came from in context
"If Nyarly is thy name, there must be power hidden within thee."
Biblically accurate horrors, meet Lovecraft and despair.
Alternate title: “Nyarly tried his best but still needed estoma/demon help because classic smt can have such BS encounter rates”, I say this as like, THE biggest fan of classic smt, my favorite games in the franchise that aren’t my first game, persona 5, are almost entirely classics
Is it just me, or did Michael at the end look like he was wearing shades during that fight.
I swore that "at least our computer isnt infested with viruses" comment was gonna lead into a sponsorship segment.
44:06 Now this is what professional sound effects sound like, folks.
"When demons invade, but they find out that humans were born to inherit the stars" type of run
30:14 “Where’d you learn to be an asshole?!”
Man 2 megaten video challenges in less than a week?
Nyarly must’ve been cooking during last month.
I still freaking love why you get thrown into that jail/hospital deal at the start. You witnessed a demon murdering someone and took a weapon from the scene, what did you think would happen?
To be fair if I saw a gremlin rip someones throat out i'd arm myself with anything I could find to
Holy canoli! Good ol' classic Shin Megami Tensei from Nyarly? Aw, heeell yeah! This is phenomenal!
Man, I really thought that intro bit about downloading the demon summoning program would segue there. Good thing that wasn't the case.
Fun fact about Thor in the SNES version. He may be the god of thunder but he’s not immune to Zio and therefore not immune to shock… but he also knows Zio. Basically the difficulty in Snes SMT 1 is determined by 2 things. Does the boss know Zio and does the boss resist Zio?
And Shibaboo or reflect physical
In the ps1 remake it's the same thing. Hilarious irony
I love how murderous you sounded at 17:55
You totally wanted to wring his neck so bad
I will assume that fights with Rei will just have her spamming Zio on the enemy
Damn bro is putting in them hours! Two challenge runs in a week?!
I love Nyarly's videos buy it always sounds like he's slightly perturbed at all times.
damn back to back uploads this is awesome
smt1 but the protagonist is a responsible internet user (he didnt download an exe file from an anonymous email telling him the apocalypse was coming):
I just started my first playthrough of this a few days ago! the timing couldn't be better
I would love so much if they remake shin megami tensei, it was the first megaten game I played back then when I discovered there was people translating jrpgs on the snes... I love it so much.
I had a hoarder mentality with the magacite so this was like half of my first playthrough
i adore Tom's work, but i'll always have love for that original trnaslation. it's janky and odd, but i'm attached to it because of the memories. if i'm playing SMT1 again, i always go back to it.
Tom's work is amazing. i wish Atlus would translate more like Tom.
3:50 the way that scene played out in the SNES I always thought he was a drug addict who got infected with a demon seed and the demon ripped out of his body
27:10 the fucking bit
27:10 when you give Law hero's gf the revival incense, the law hero laments
from the PSX version: [Name], I wanted to see you once more... But... not like this...
Oooh boy! Nyarly is a chad, playing one of the best SMT title. What a treat. Guns skills are best skills
Hoping you do this for SMT2.l as well. While overpowered humans are still a thing, that game also made significant balance changes to fix the more broken stuff from 1 like Zio and Bufu stunlocking everything while in general also upping boss difficulty.
The only hard boss in SMT 2 is Satan, rest is still easy asf.
9:57 In my playthrough of this game, i got not just one, but TWO Triple Staff drops from the Orcs in the Research Lab, which meant that i was totally set for weapons all the way until the alignment weapons at the end of the underworld 🙌
Can't wait for the Sequel: SMT II without Demons
You and marsh are two of my favorite and youtubers
I cant wait for you to do challenge runs for Devil Summoner
well shit, that was fast
Thanks for something to watch while recovering from surgery
It's funny how it took you so long to realize that Zio is totally OP in this game, it's pretty common knowledge with SMT1 xD
I've played through SMT1 3 times many years ago (and got all 3 endings). My go-to tactic for my human characters in all 3 runs was using multi-hit guns with nerve bullets. Iirc, those would constantly put enemies to sleep, then if they woke up they'd get put to sleep again before getting a chance to act due to my characters having higher speed. I don't remember any boss that was immune to nerve damage, and I basically stun-locked them all 'til they died - including the final bosses in all of the 3 routes. Iirc, there were also "cursed bullets" that could inflict bind on enemies, but they had a lot lower chance of inflicting the effect than nerve bullets, hence why I stuck with those.
While Belial is *supposed* to be unkillable, you *can* actually hurt it by reflecting its own attacks using demons with passive physical and magic/fire reflection (like Tamamo, Mezuki and Gozuki). Do note that damage-reflection spells like Tetrakarn and Makarakarn *don't* work - only demons with passive affinity reflection do. Also, you can't actually kill it, as the fight automatically ends after 3 turns and you can't reflect enough damage to kill it that fast (at least, to my knowledge).
Gonna cast Shibaboo so you start doing more Castlevania challenge runs too
Demonless runs lets goooooooo
23:45 Personally I think chaos hero looks really cool. I've always been a fan of traditional japanese garb.
6:42 It watches over, it lives oN! Try not to feel too at ease!
28:08 Count black is a fucking wild name for a black butler
I was like "whoaaa" for a second until I remembered I played most of the game like this. The human characters are cracked, no need for demons a vast majority of the time
These old RPG's are some of the hardest in any series. This is a endurance run irl. How bad do you wanna do it? And how lucky can you be?
Just finished the video. Seems easy lol
Characters Nyarly has named/nicknamed after Yukiko in challenge runs:
- Alex
- SMT1 Heroine
Probably a coincidence but it'd equally be funny if this just slowly became a recurring gag in these runs
Ngl Nyarly gotta play MT1.
The suffering would be peaketh.
Yes I'm so happy someone finally did these
I cleared most of the endgame SNES SMT with just the protagonist and heroine with both of them using multi-hit guns with nerve bullets. It clears every encounter.
Honestly SMT 1 is easy even when just use the human characters. Especially when you know how to stat your characters.
Cant wait for the No Tartarus Challenge Run of P3R!
Here to watch the SMT2 video
Makes a lot of sense that an American soldiers sees a nuke go off and asks ‘What’s got you so worked up?’
I’d love you to do this for SMT2 because I’ve rarely ever seen anyone cover that game
wow two challenges in a row
I am a simple person, I see a nyarly video; I click. Thanks for making my day!
Funnily enough, Magic is useful for increasing consumable damage. Ever since the PSX English patch dropped, there have been a few speedrunners who completed the entire game in
I would like to see you do an orpheus only run in P3R in the future.
honey wake up, new nyarly upload
You should do a digital devil saga challenge where you only can use your starting mantra
I feel like the more interesting direction for challenge runs of these old games is to do it demon only, like human party members can only defend (vit build time) and demons are the only ones who can attack for you. the humans are just too good in these game. grinding will still play a factor for sure though
You can literally solo this game with just the heroine. Just put all your points into speed and magic and spam mazio spells or charm bullets with an SMG.
Enemies won't be able to touch you, ever, not even bosses.That's how broken SMT1 is.
Vote for Devil Survivor Hero Only Run
Idea for challenge is Devil survivor No demon run
SMT female demon only run
SMT one race run (ex. Only fairy race demons)
Ok you whipped them 😂..i had something else i wanted to say. But i don't remember 🤷🏾♀️ i watched this like three days ago
this truly was a shin megami tensei ‼️‼️
Really, one of the shin megami tensei's of all time
"I armed my protagonist with an MP5" That line is wild bro 😂😂
By the Gods a double upload in a month