If you were wondering what I've been working on between other Videos and Live Streams since July last year, now you know. I was never expecting this to be over 2 and a half hours, but here we are. Thank you very much for watching this movie length video, especially if you made it to the twist ending 😁
Though it has no relevance to this challenge and I'm assuming you either didn't know or didn't explain it properly but just in case you don't have to learn the second attack for any limit level to gain the next level, you only need to get kills. As I said it has no bearing in this challenge but it might be interesting to know.
Great video, I can't believe you consistently used the wrong names for the characters through all 2.5 hours. I definitely would've had a few accidental "Cloud" slip-ups myself lol
Hey! So glad i was able to help and teach you about the wrong warp, it is such a cool exploit that more people should see! Congrats on finally finishing this challenge! 👍
@@gigajake668ff8 leveling makes the game easier access to higher tier magic is free idk why people say such stupid things like if i am level 100 i can draw all op magic getting + 100 to all relevant stats max out hp the magic you get is way stronger then enemy levels way stronger you can oneshot every enemy in ff8 no abuse
She's the one piloting the airship and any time she goes and picks someone up she just says 'Hey! Y'all need a lift?!" Also has at least three mastered Aero materia equipped at a time. More if she can afford it.
Fun fact: due to a minor bug, those two initial potions can actually be picked up from the same guard - you don't actually have to check them both. Just "talk" to the first guard twice to get both potions.
@@typical_snowflake man I'm nearly 40 and have had a running thing for years with my friend where we're always telling each other we've learned something new about FF7
I remember accidentally getting slots insta-kill on emerald weapon. I didn't know it could even do that, I just had Cait in the party because I liked him, not because his stats were good. I didn't even have his ultimate weapon bc I forgot it in the shinra building
I'd argue Vincent's transformation limit should count as legal under the same reasoning Party-Sephiroth isn't a rulebreak; you're not controlling them. Very fun run to watch either way.
I would say it's allowed too. But it also makes things harder if his limit can potentially heal something... or hit it at the wrong time like the Materia Keeper fight...
@@Evan20000 I'd say no as with Sephiroth there really is no choice. It's not like you choose to put him in auto battle. With Vincenzo it's your choice to activate his limit which actually makes sense to disqualify him in the run.
When you got to the end of the game I was like "But wait, what about that backup save from earlier???" And I was NOT disappointed about how it gets used, what a cool glitch!
2:10:20 - Really neat touch at the end there of having Sephiroth and Jeova’s names glitching between each other at the top left! Amazing video in general, I love challenge runs like this!
It also happened at the start when he listed the goal, but is there a reason for it? if it's something rebirth related I guess don't tell me since I don't own a PS5 so I gotta wait for rebirth steam release.
@@arumea5418if you dont know then you definitely dont want spoilers, its a pretty big plot point and you would 100% remember it if you knew. Its an exciting twist though so definitely look forward to it!
@@arumea5418the Sephiroth you're pursuing throughout the game isn't actually Sephiroth, it's Jenova. Every time you have an encounter with Sephiroth it always led to a boss fight with Jenova. The only times you actually see Sephiroth are during the flashback, in the second disc when you see him encased in materia (this is when Cloud gives him the black materia), and the final boss fight at the end.
Absolutely you must play it, it's probably the best PS1 game ever made and probably the most clever use of a battle system for it's time. So much fun and the story is great.
This was seriously the coolest, most impressive run of ffvii I have ever seen. My partner and I keep talking about it. My mind is blown by all of the work that went into it. Congrats!
Well the next FF game on the horizon for me is FFX. I will look into adding them, but we'll see. Unless I just use Sensor of course (assuming my chosen challenge run allows Sensor).
On the Lost Number battle, it never transformed because the transformation cannot happen if it is paralyzed by the hit. It would then counter by transforming on the next hit after, but since you only damaged with Cross-Slash, it was never unparalyzed right after receiving damage.
Encounter rate is difficult to explain, but the short version is there's a hidden value the game tracks that goes up as you perform actions and is reset when you get an encounter. The goes up every 8 steps by a set value regardless of if you're walking or running. BUT when the game checks if an encounter should happen it multiplies the danger by 4 if run is held down. This means that walking gives lower encounter rates, but there's literally no reason not to run for the first second or two after each encounter and cut scene(which also resets the counter with a few exceptions).
I spent the first 30 minutes of this wishing it was a 10 minute video. Then watched the whole thing and now I'm eternally glad it wasn't a 10 minute video. Great piece of longform ff7 content. Keep up the great work!
I was there theorycrafting for hours until we finally prevailed ! The viewer of this video probably don't realize the amount of attempts and strats that were tried to land a successful run....
@@1lomi901 it very much set the tone for the run when the solution after hours of attempts was that Clouds randomly generated stats weren't high enough!
Wanted to wait until I'd finished watching the video with my partner to comment but I'm not embarassed to say these streams were a big part of my weekends when they were current. Seeing the video do so well so quickly is awesome. I hope it and your channel continues to grow, you deserve it.
I’d never seen the ancient forest after beating Ultima Weapon. Good gravy, nearly thirty years old and I still hadn’t seen everything this game has to offer. Amazing
I’m a big fan of challenge videos, and now that I’ve finished this one it has to be one of my favorites. Your explanations and storytelling are top-notch, and the HP counters were an excellent addition, really helped keep up with the action. I’m sure it was a lot of work, but I appreciate the high-quality content, GG!
Having seen 4-8 video on materia swap from between files I was seeing where you were going with that final twist. This is an insanely well researched video and I was glued to the screen for the whole duration. Hats off to you, sir
This is probably the only live stream I have ever watched as well as the vod after. Was there with the struggles of Carry Armour and Schizo. Nate going on the submarine after finally beating Carry Armour then dying to the grunts without saving! Keep up the great content!
I don't leave comments and likes too often (partially an unnecessary stigma and partially because mobile youtube breaks when doing so FOR SOME REASON), but it would be criminal to *not* do so here. The amount of work and required dedication for such is astonishing. Even the editing and scripting required for such a monster of a video is staggering.
When ever I leave a comment on TH-cam using the phone app the keyboard gets stuck to my screen, or will even shift my entire screen above where the keyboard ends. Even if I switch apps. I have to restart my phone every time
This has to be the most unique and entertaining FF7 playthrough challenge I've seen. Amazing that this game just keeps on giving after all these years!
Very impressed by the amount of effort that went into making this! Unrelated, but it is kind of funny that the entire part1 of FF7Remake ends at 31mins, puts it into perspective
I absolutely love the HP overlay on each of the major boss fights, by the way. Makes the footage actually very engaging to watch- I love thoroughly narrated challenge runs, a LOT, and that's partially for the fact that if you're familiar with the game you can kinda just listen to them and still get the full experience, but the footage being additionally fun to watch is a nice bonus!
Easily my favorite channel on youtube right now. The work you guys put in is incredible. As another comment said, showing the HP was extremely nice, and your explanations are clear and concise. Absolutely amazing work. Looking forward to many more
I would consider Vincent's limits fair game since the action names use the Limit Break banner, not the normal attack banner. And on that note I consider Steal also fair to use since not only does it not do damage, but you don't use items in battle anyway, meaning it has no real impact outside of saving time outside of battle
I don't have as much experience with FF7 as I do 8, so I can't make a prediction for which limits would be useful this time as I did with the no junctioning challenge. That being said, this was still absolutely worth watching, it was a marathon of a challenge that involved a lot of inventive strategies and unconventional thinking. It's also amusing to see bosses that play roughly the same or almost easier with these restrictions than how they'd be encountered normally. The fight against Ruby Weapon at the end is the type of nonsense I love seeing in challenge runs.
Pure excellence as always, I liked this one especially because it felt a lot more like genuinely pure mastery of the game, rather than "we need to walk exactly between 3000 and 3082 steps, but only if the system clock indicates July, and it's a leap year", which admittedly is also funny but this genuinely felt like something theoretically a casual person could do, admittedly with a lot of patience. Great work!
Not sure Desperation Attacks can really be called limits, considering the way they work is fundamentally different. Definitely a nice touch regardless though.
They work very differently to FF7's, but rather similar to FF8's apart from the fact that you only get the limit confirmed after committing to an attack. So I do think they should count, albeit they are extremely rare to actually experience.
@GigaMettalix Agreed, they are not limit breaks and should not be referred to as such, or grouped with limit breaks. They are desperation attacks, like enemies have them. The precursors to limit breaks, sure, but not the same, so *technically* limits did NOT start in 6 like op says.
Engrossing. Loved every second of it. Heck, I was on the edge of my seat during the Ruby fight. This might be my favorite of your videos. Congrats on this insanity.
Thank you for showing a health tracker for each boss, that's really useful for judging how close to the wire each battle was. And, over 2 and a half hours - wow, this must've taken some dedication - and then there's editing everything down! Congrats 😁 Ok, and midway comments: Poison is actully your character damaging themselves. It's why one tactic for dealing with Materia Keeper is poisoning it then intentionally getting it to 7777 hp - the next poison tick will deal 7777 damage and instantly defeat it. According to Terence' guide on Party Mechanics on GameFAQs the moves are definitely physical/magical... Lost Number won't transform if Paralyzed, so your second guess sounds like the answer. From memory the MDef bug only meant the MDef from armour was ignored, Spirit still applied. I can't promise that though. Also - fun fact, the final boss that you get to Omnislash? It has *1* HP, and is programmed to die to *anything*, even Sense. And ah! I knew I wasn't going crazy that you could breed a Great and a Wonderful chocobo for blue/green chocobos, skipping the Good, but after 30+ soft resets I thought I must've been wrong... PS, that was a cheeky way to finish off the Weapons :P
I like how detailed this video is. Most of the FF7 challenge videos I've seen feel rushed by comparison. This one gets deep into the nuts and bolts. I feel like if I studied the video I could get through this challenge (with a little work and a lot of luck or vice versa).
Absolutely fantastic video I can't imagine how much time this took. It would have been an amazing anyway but you took the extra step and went for the super bosses anyway. The devotion to the challenge is beyond impressive.
Having been a long time fan of 4-8 Productions I had a feeling I knew most of your strategies going in, and I was correct. You still surprised me a couple of times but on the whole I predicted what you'd do. But that didn't make it any less fun or satisfying to see you succeed over and over and manage to do everything. Well done. Well done indeed. Also, Airlift was easily the funniest of the names, and had me cackling.
7:55 drops you to 3 HP from a max of 314, 8:02 you're back to 10 HP with a max of 318 Why did you need to reset that run? :( Or just including that battle almost killing you for the drama? :) Either way, well done. That's a lot of dedication to go through the intro so much to get a run going on this challenge!
I think this is one of the best long form videos I've watched on here in years, incredible work mate! The little additions like updating the boss HP with every hit must have taken ages and showcasing the glitch at the end, everything's so well considered and planned out. Liked and commenting to help the algorithm do it's thing as this deserves to blow up!
I love watching challenge run videos for games, but for some reason I can't usually get into them for JRPGs. This video, however, was one of the best I've ever seen for any game! I loved the editing with the HP values and explanations of glitches like W-Item throughout the run, which kept things interesting and engaging. Maybe it helps that FF7 was my first and probably my favorite of the series. Great work overall.
Ah yes, our main protagonist Clood from Birmingham, how can i forget.... Great videos, i like even tho the beginning is impossible, you still continue the challenge
This is a mind boggling challenge with the WEAPONs included, and my respect and admiration are now yours. This was an amazing effort you made, and it's success made me feel so much excitement, as if i did it myself. Such a great job, my man.
Another fantastic video mate, I really enjoyed NG Plus: The Movie! I'm not sure whether it counts or not considering you had to use items for the first battle, but even if it doesn't, it's really impressive. Kudos man
I thought I would just put this vid on the background while doing chores, but I ended up watching from beginning to end. Amazing achievement man, only made even better with your storytelling and video editing.
FYI, Vincenzo has access to a 255% accuracy weapon called the Sniper CR that negates the accuracy loss from Fury (or anything, really), since it sets his accuracy higher than any evasion stat in the game.
SO glad you decided to take on another classic FF challenge =D Watching you do the Scorpion boss live was so much fun - and so exciting when you finally pulled it off! Thanks for the great entertainment =)
I actually learned a surprising amount of FF7 Trivia I was not expecting to learn from this video lol. AMAZING work! You havr some incredible willpower to pull runs like this!
Ff7 definitely had the most useful limit, but I love that you can use FF8 if you’re willing to be low on health. Somthing about that just its the mechanics and world building right for me. Plus I love having the spell to spam it at the end game 😂
Another fun thing to do against Ruby Weapon is the exact same strat, except in this one you manipulate Cloud's or Barret's HP so that they start the fight with 7777 HP exactly. Doing this puts a character in the "Lucky 7" mode, making each and every hit of theirs, including Limits, deal 7777 damage to the target, ignore defenses, buffs and accuracy drops. So every single hit from your Octa-Omnislash, or in Barret's case, Octa-AngerMax would deal 7777 damage per hit, every counter-mimic, which should be enough to 1-shot Ruby Weapon if its first attack is the MP Drain tentacle hit.
This was so interesting. I’ve never played the original ff7 and I’d certainly never play a game like this 😂 but you did a great job narrating it and it was super engaging to follow.
I can already feel that this will be another epic show of tenacity and strategy. And 2h36m! That's awesome. Your videos inspire me to be tenacious in my own work as well. There is quite an overlap between what I do and these videos, in the sense that it requires a great deal of tenacity, persistency, development of strategies, optimizations and lots of trial and error. Thank you so much for your work!
Oddly enough, non-elemental damage can be defended against with elemental materia (really helps with Ultimate Weapon, which is how I figured this out; that first encounter can be a bit brutal). You just need something like Bahamut to pair with it. I assume that it wasn't changed in later versions of the game so Ruby could have been trivialized by adding the ability to absorb both of its moves. Addendum: Tifa can actually kill Rapps before it even gets a turn if you've learned enough of her limits. Kind of a cool thing I found out back in my last playthrough of the unmodded game. Not sure if I had one of those OP accessories from the Battle Square at the time, but it's interesting how strong Tifa can get if you keep her in a strength-based build. The Mind Blow strat is probably more reliable, though, and I was going to try it out but Tifa just killed the thing in one limit so...yeah. Addendum: I'm not so sure about needing the Tiny Bronco to get the rings. I'm pretty sure I've gone back to get them immediately after getting the buggy before but I've been known for misremembering things. IGN agrees with me, at least. Addendum: Poison ticks actually deal Poison damage in this game. It's one of the reasons that you're given a Poison materia and Elemental materia in the Shinra HQ. The devs expect you to use it to halve the poison damage that the sample boss can do to whoever isn't wearing the Star Pendant. FF7 had the best element system...
Been seeing the stream notifications for so long, and every time I got excited for when iit''d be a video. Props to you, dude, this is genuinely amazing levels of dedication.
Fun fact: if you press R3 you activate a cheat that makes your limit break always full but it makes you immediatly heal to your max health after being attacked and you have infinite MP
My man, this might be the best FF7 video I've ever seen. The run itself was really cool, the editing is on point and your commentary was both informative and entertaining. Stellar work, subbed.
Don't forget that Red's Lunatic High raises the party's evasion as well as casting haste. Sometimes you need those relentless attacks of bosses like Materia Keeper to miss just so you're not under so much pressure. (Edit a few days later: Actually I checked, only he gets the evasion boost and it's big enough that it could be detrimental so...) Also I'm gonna be that guy: Lapis Laser probably would've let Cloud spam Climhazzard.
the way i always did it as a kid was meteor rain, i would always farm for it before or in the temple so not far from what he did but with a lower level limit
Fully expected this to be a "can only damage enemies using limits" run while allowing materia and items for all other purposes. The dedication to use next to nothing besides limits in combat is wild but made the challenge far more interesting. Impressively done
watching this just reminded me how good the item, equipment, limit breaks, leveling, materia, and battle systems are in this game. I should really do another playthrough. its been like 15 years
If you were wondering what I've been working on between other Videos and Live Streams since July last year, now you know. I was never expecting this to be over 2 and a half hours, but here we are. Thank you very much for watching this movie length video, especially if you made it to the twist ending 😁
I'm waiting with baited breath for a ff6 challenge run (maybe desperation attacks only?)
Though it has no relevance to this challenge and I'm assuming you either didn't know or didn't explain it properly but just in case you don't have to learn the second attack for any limit level to gain the next level, you only need to get kills. As I said it has no bearing in this challenge but it might be interesting to know.
Yeah, I did know that. I've been watching 4-8 Productions for years now. It's an interesting fact though
Great video, I can't believe you consistently used the wrong names for the characters through all 2.5 hours. I definitely would've had a few accidental "Cloud" slip-ups myself lol
Thank you, I said "Cloud" a couple times though 😅
i'm gonna point it out because i know a disproportionate amount of effort went into editing it- the live count for the HP is chef's kiss
You know you’ve played too much FF when I read “chef’s knife” and had to reread it several times to get what you meant
@@lisi79 I did the same thing lol.
@@lisi79 Facts, I was so confused 🤣
It was so satisfying!
i did even notice it was there until now ... that looks like a painful amount of editting
Hey! So glad i was able to help and teach you about the wrong warp, it is such a cool exploit that more people should see! Congrats on finally finishing this challenge! 👍
Thanks again, it was great talking to you :)
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hey, nice to see more collabs between, unique creators. big fan of both your channels
4-8 productions has been doing 7 content since I was a senior in high school. Decades fly by 🍾
Cool crossover
This might be one of the few cases where overleveling is avoided not because it makes the challenge too easy, but because it makes it harder.
Very bizarre, that
Coincidentally, Final Fantasy 8 is also like that
Typically it's enemies scaling to your level that might cause you to avoid that
@@gigajake668ff8 leveling makes the game easier access to higher tier magic is free idk why people say such stupid things like if i am level 100 i can draw all op magic
getting + 100 to all relevant stats max out hp the magic you get is way stronger then enemy levels way stronger you can oneshot every enemy in ff8 no abuse
@@TrueLight-zr8ou they meant the ff8 video this channel did previously was harder if you were higher level.
Forget the Aeris/Aerith debate. She will forever be Airlift to me now.
She's the one piloting the airship and any time she goes and picks someone up she just says 'Hey! Y'all need a lift?!"
Also has at least three mastered Aero materia equipped at a time. More if she can afford it.
An old mgaming magazine had a section about FF7. Cloud was Claud, Barret was Bullet and Aerith was Ealis. I'm in the Ealis gang
For me its oops
@@Siinory It was GameFan.
Airlisp
Fun fact: due to a minor bug, those two initial potions can actually be picked up from the same guard - you don't actually have to check them both. Just "talk" to the first guard twice to get both potions.
True fact
there is always something to learn from that game. Thanks
All this time, I just thought it was a cheeky little extra for players who like to be loot goblins.
@@typical_snowflake man I'm nearly 40 and have had a running thing for years with my friend where we're always telling each other we've learned something new about FF7
I remember accidentally getting slots insta-kill on emerald weapon. I didn't know it could even do that, I just had Cait in the party because I liked him, not because his stats were good. I didn't even have his ultimate weapon bc I forgot it in the shinra building
I'd argue Vincent's transformation limit should count as legal under the same reasoning Party-Sephiroth isn't a rulebreak; you're not controlling them. Very fun run to watch either way.
I would say it's allowed too.
But it also makes things harder if his limit can potentially heal something... or hit it at the wrong time like the Materia Keeper fight...
Also, the reason that tipped the scales regardless: Fury making Vincent's damage output inconsistent.
@@Evan20000 I'd say no as with Sephiroth there really is no choice. It's not like you choose to put him in auto battle. With Vincenzo it's your choice to activate his limit which actually makes sense to disqualify him in the run.
It's like red13 howling moon.
I saw you trying killing that first boss for days, months ago and I was like this won't be possible.
What a pleasant surprise, let's see NG+ cook.
When you got to the end of the game I was like "But wait, what about that backup save from earlier???"
And I was NOT disappointed about how it gets used, what a cool glitch!
2:10:20 - Really neat touch at the end there of having Sephiroth and Jeova’s names glitching between each other at the top left! Amazing video in general, I love challenge runs like this!
It also happened at the start when he listed the goal, but is there a reason for it? if it's something rebirth related I guess don't tell me since I don't own a PS5 so I gotta wait for rebirth steam release.
@@arumea5418 Do you mind original game spoilers?
@@arumea5418if you dont know then you definitely dont want spoilers, its a pretty big plot point and you would 100% remember it if you knew. Its an exciting twist though so definitely look forward to it!
It also says "i will never be a memory" right as Sephiroth was defeated.
@@arumea5418the Sephiroth you're pursuing throughout the game isn't actually Sephiroth, it's Jenova. Every time you have an encounter with Sephiroth it always led to a boss fight with Jenova. The only times you actually see Sephiroth are during the flashback, in the second disc when you see him encased in materia (this is when Cloud gives him the black materia), and the final boss fight at the end.
12:16 Cloud? Don't know 'em.
I only know Clood.
It's CLOODIN' TIME!
Clood I'm casting my [[BIG SHOT]]!
Clood sounds like a Dutch knock-off version of Cloud.
@@Astatine95It probably is
Don't you mean clod?
A 2 hour and 40 minutes video of a challenge run on a game I have not played?
About to have the best meal of my life
Play it. Best game of all time
You haven’t played ff7… do you even game!?
And now the characters are Clood and Bort to you forever.
Absolutely you must play it, it's probably the best PS1 game ever made and probably the most clever use of a battle system for it's time. So much fun and the story is great.
To this day, easily in the top 5 RPGs of all time
This was seriously the coolest, most impressive run of ffvii I have ever seen. My partner and I keep talking about it. My mind is blown by all of the work that went into it. Congrats!
Thank you very much, I appreciate that 😊
The HP counters were such incredible additions, thank you very much for whoever went through the effort to edit those in.
Thank you, that would be me. I did wonder if I would regret starting those HP counters 😅
@@NGPlusVideos well for what it’s worth they were worth your while, even if they were to much to consider doing again lol
@@NGPlusVideos will you more hp counters to other challenges?
Well the next FF game on the horizon for me is FFX. I will look into adding them, but we'll see. Unless I just use Sensor of course (assuming my chosen challenge run allows Sensor).
On the Lost Number battle, it never transformed because the transformation cannot happen if it is paralyzed by the hit. It would then counter by transforming on the next hit after, but since you only damaged with Cross-Slash, it was never unparalyzed right after receiving damage.
Thank you, so I accidentally used the perfect strategy 😅
Glad to know I’m not the only person who named Cloud a weird variant of his name. “Clod Streef” was mine
🤣
Nah nah, Clood Strafe
Encounter rate is difficult to explain, but the short version is there's a hidden value the game tracks that goes up as you perform actions and is reset when you get an encounter.
The goes up every 8 steps by a set value regardless of if you're walking or running. BUT when the game checks if an encounter should happen it multiplies the danger by 4 if run is held down.
This means that walking gives lower encounter rates, but there's literally no reason not to run for the first second or two after each encounter and cut scene(which also resets the counter with a few exceptions).
I spent the first 30 minutes of this wishing it was a 10 minute video.
Then watched the whole thing and now I'm eternally glad it wasn't a 10 minute video.
Great piece of longform ff7 content. Keep up the great work!
Renaming Red 13 to "Rod 34"..... I don't know if I should be impressed or scared...
At least it wasn't Rule 34...
I remember being in chat on stream for about 6 hours trying to get past Guard Scorpion, a night well spent!
Will be watching over the next few days!
I was there theorycrafting for hours until we finally prevailed !
The viewer of this video probably don't realize the amount of attempts and strats that were tried to land a successful run....
@@1lomi901 it very much set the tone for the run when the solution after hours of attempts was that Clouds randomly generated stats weren't high enough!
Wanted to wait until I'd finished watching the video with my partner to comment but I'm not embarassed to say these streams were a big part of my weekends when they were current. Seeing the video do so well so quickly is awesome. I hope it and your channel continues to grow, you deserve it.
Thanks a lot for all the support 🎉
Now that's the craziest thing I've ever seen. 8 Limits as a counter to any attack?! Holy Moly!
I’d never seen the ancient forest after beating Ultima Weapon. Good gravy, nearly thirty years old and I still hadn’t seen everything this game has to offer. Amazing
I’m a big fan of challenge videos, and now that I’ve finished this one it has to be one of my favorites. Your explanations and storytelling are top-notch, and the HP counters were an excellent addition, really helped keep up with the action. I’m sure it was a lot of work, but I appreciate the high-quality content, GG!
Aw yeah, I've been main-lining FF7 Rebirth for the past few days, this is the perfect time to watch FF7 content
Having seen 4-8 video on materia swap from between files I was seeing where you were going with that final twist. This is an insanely well researched video and I was glued to the screen for the whole duration.
Hats off to you, sir
This is probably the only live stream I have ever watched as well as the vod after. Was there with the struggles of Carry Armour and Schizo. Nate going on the submarine after finally beating Carry Armour then dying to the grunts without saving! Keep up the great content!
I don't leave comments and likes too often (partially an unnecessary stigma and partially because mobile youtube breaks when doing so FOR SOME REASON), but it would be criminal to *not* do so here. The amount of work and required dedication for such is astonishing. Even the editing and scripting required for such a monster of a video is staggering.
When ever I leave a comment on TH-cam using the phone app the keyboard gets stuck to my screen, or will even shift my entire screen above where the keyboard ends. Even if I switch apps. I have to restart my phone every time
This has to be the most unique and entertaining FF7 playthrough challenge I've seen. Amazing that this game just keeps on giving after all these years!
Very impressed by the amount of effort that went into making this!
Unrelated, but it is kind of funny that the entire part1 of FF7Remake ends at 31mins, puts it into perspective
That ending was WILD! How does anyone ever find stuff like that out?
Isn't it marvellous? There's a really good video on it over at 4-8 productions.
I absolutely love the HP overlay on each of the major boss fights, by the way. Makes the footage actually very engaging to watch- I love thoroughly narrated challenge runs, a LOT, and that's partially for the fact that if you're familiar with the game you can kinda just listen to them and still get the full experience, but the footage being additionally fun to watch is a nice bonus!
Easily my favorite channel on youtube right now. The work you guys put in is incredible. As another comment said, showing the HP was extremely nice, and your explanations are clear and concise.
Absolutely amazing work. Looking forward to many more
I would consider Vincent's limits fair game since the action names use the Limit Break banner, not the normal attack banner.
And on that note I consider Steal also fair to use since not only does it not do damage, but you don't use items in battle anyway, meaning it has no real impact outside of saving time outside of battle
It's done! I remember tuning into the stream when y'all were still fighting Guard Scorpion, happy to see things paid off.
I don't have as much experience with FF7 as I do 8, so I can't make a prediction for which limits would be useful this time as I did with the no junctioning challenge. That being said, this was still absolutely worth watching, it was a marathon of a challenge that involved a lot of inventive strategies and unconventional thinking. It's also amusing to see bosses that play roughly the same or almost easier with these restrictions than how they'd be encountered normally. The fight against Ruby Weapon at the end is the type of nonsense I love seeing in challenge runs.
Pure excellence as always, I liked this one especially because it felt a lot more like genuinely pure mastery of the game, rather than "we need to walk exactly between 3000 and 3082 steps, but only if the system clock indicates July, and it's a leap year", which admittedly is also funny but this genuinely felt like something theoretically a casual person could do, admittedly with a lot of patience. Great work!
This is the perfect way to refresh myself on the OG after finishing Rebirth. What a run!
'It's actually bad that we take no damage from this attack' is such a funny problem to have
Fun fact: the limit system *technically* started in FF6, though it was never referred to as a limit break
Yeah, I saw it happen once and assumed I dreamed it until the Internet became a thing.
Can go am entire playthrough and never see one lol
Not sure Desperation Attacks can really be called limits, considering the way they work is fundamentally different. Definitely a nice touch regardless though.
They work very differently to FF7's, but rather similar to FF8's apart from the fact that you only get the limit confirmed after committing to an attack. So I do think they should count, albeit they are extremely rare to actually experience.
@GigaMettalix Agreed, they are not limit breaks and should not be referred to as such, or grouped with limit breaks. They are desperation attacks, like enemies have them. The precursors to limit breaks, sure, but not the same, so *technically* limits did NOT start in 6 like op says.
Engrossing. Loved every second of it. Heck, I was on the edge of my seat during the Ruby fight. This might be my favorite of your videos. Congrats on this insanity.
"I will never be a memory" nice touch 😉
Thank you for showing a health tracker for each boss, that's really useful for judging how close to the wire each battle was.
And, over 2 and a half hours - wow, this must've taken some dedication - and then there's editing everything down! Congrats 😁
Ok, and midway comments:
Poison is actully your character damaging themselves. It's why one tactic for dealing with Materia Keeper is poisoning it then intentionally getting it to 7777 hp - the next poison tick will deal 7777 damage and instantly defeat it.
According to Terence' guide on Party Mechanics on GameFAQs the moves are definitely physical/magical... Lost Number won't transform if Paralyzed, so your second guess sounds like the answer.
From memory the MDef bug only meant the MDef from armour was ignored, Spirit still applied. I can't promise that though.
Also - fun fact, the final boss that you get to Omnislash? It has *1* HP, and is programmed to die to *anything*, even Sense.
And ah! I knew I wasn't going crazy that you could breed a Great and a Wonderful chocobo for blue/green chocobos, skipping the Good, but after 30+ soft resets I thought I must've been wrong...
PS, that was a cheeky way to finish off the Weapons :P
I like how detailed this video is. Most of the FF7 challenge videos I've seen feel rushed by comparison. This one gets deep into the nuts and bolts. I feel like if I studied the video I could get through this challenge (with a little work and a lot of luck or vice versa).
Thanks, that's the goal, so feels good to know it worked
"Airlift" makes me smile each time I think about it.
Tofu too lmao
Watching Red parachute into Midgar never stops being funny to me.
The mental fortitude required to complete this challenge is commendable, most would've given up by the time schizo rolled around
NG+ glitch is crazy to see lol, thank you for your work and sharing all of this
Absolutely fantastic video I can't imagine how much time this took. It would have been an amazing anyway but you took the extra step and went for the super bosses anyway. The devotion to the challenge is beyond impressive.
Having been a long time fan of 4-8 Productions I had a feeling I knew most of your strategies going in, and I was correct. You still surprised me a couple of times but on the whole I predicted what you'd do. But that didn't make it any less fun or satisfying to see you succeed over and over and manage to do everything. Well done. Well done indeed.
Also, Airlift was easily the funniest of the names, and had me cackling.
7:55 drops you to 3 HP from a max of 314,
8:02 you're back to 10 HP with a max of 318
Why did you need to reset that run? :(
Or just including that battle almost killing you for the drama? :)
Either way, well done. That's a lot of dedication to go through the intro so much to get a run going on this challenge!
An epic video for an epic journey - was great to relive it so succinctly, and well worth it. Nicely done!
Thank you, well worth all the effort that went in to it!
Yessssss! I was looking for this challenge run to get finished. Best part of my week. Thank you NGplus+ !
''Clood hits harder''
Clood: 167 damage
Tofu: 100+112= 212 damage
for me this challenge would be actual hell genuine purgatory that i would never be able to escape
I think this is one of the best long form videos I've watched on here in years, incredible work mate! The little additions like updating the boss HP with every hit must have taken ages and showcasing the glitch at the end, everything's so well considered and planned out. Liked and commenting to help the algorithm do it's thing as this deserves to blow up!
Thank you, it really did take ages, and I had to triple check it was all correct too 😅
Long form? *Checks how long the video is* Damn, that felt so much quicker than it really was.
I love watching challenge run videos for games, but for some reason I can't usually get into them for JRPGs. This video, however, was one of the best I've ever seen for any game! I loved the editing with the HP values and explanations of glitches like W-Item throughout the run, which kept things interesting and engaging. Maybe it helps that FF7 was my first and probably my favorite of the series. Great work overall.
This is by far the best video on this channel. Keep up the good work !
I had flashbacks seeing Carry Armor appear. Those streams were purgatory but so satisfyingwhen you eventually pulled through
Ah yes, our main protagonist Clood from Birmingham, how can i forget....
Great videos, i like even tho the beginning is impossible, you still continue the challenge
This is a mind boggling challenge with the WEAPONs included, and my respect and admiration are now yours. This was an amazing effort you made, and it's success made me feel so much excitement, as if i did it myself. Such a great job, my man.
Another fantastic video mate, I really enjoyed NG Plus: The Movie! I'm not sure whether it counts or not considering you had to use items for the first battle, but even if it doesn't, it's really impressive. Kudos man
I thought I would just put this vid on the background while doing chores, but I ended up watching from beginning to end. Amazing achievement man, only made even better with your storytelling and video editing.
I fell in love with Ff7 Over this video, but you can bet he's Clood forever now
FYI, Vincenzo has access to a 255% accuracy weapon called the Sniper CR that negates the accuracy loss from Fury (or anything, really), since it sets his accuracy higher than any evasion stat in the game.
SO glad you decided to take on another classic FF challenge =D Watching you do the Scorpion boss live was so much fun - and so exciting when you finally pulled it off! Thanks for the great entertainment =)
I actually learned a surprising amount of FF7 Trivia I was not expecting to learn from this video lol. AMAZING work! You havr some incredible willpower to pull runs like this!
why aerith walks like a hood irony npc 0:01😭
This is the best challenge run for any game I've ever seen, appreciate the huge effort you put into this.
'Bort' is such a silly name, I love it. One of my favorite names I've seen another player with in FF14.
Ff7 definitely had the most useful limit, but I love that you can use FF8 if you’re willing to be low on health. Somthing about that just its the mechanics and world building right for me. Plus I love having the spell to spam it at the end game 😂
Ah. The lesser known protagonist of Foonal Foontasy VII - *_Clood Stroofe_*
Another fun thing to do against Ruby Weapon is the exact same strat, except in this one you manipulate Cloud's or Barret's HP so that they start the fight with 7777 HP exactly. Doing this puts a character in the "Lucky 7" mode, making each and every hit of theirs, including Limits, deal 7777 damage to the target, ignore defenses, buffs and accuracy drops.
So every single hit from your Octa-Omnislash, or in Barret's case, Octa-AngerMax would deal 7777 damage per hit, every counter-mimic, which should be enough to 1-shot Ruby Weapon if its first attack is the MP Drain tentacle hit.
I’ll be glued to the screen of the full 2 1/2 hours, love your content
This was so interesting. I’ve never played the original ff7 and I’d certainly never play a game like this 😂 but you did a great job narrating it and it was super engaging to follow.
"I know what you're thinking, what about the super bosses?"
We absolutely weren't thinking about that you mad man. Amazing video 😂
I can already feel that this will be another epic show of tenacity and strategy. And 2h36m! That's awesome. Your videos inspire me to be tenacious in my own work as well. There is quite an overlap between what I do and these videos, in the sense that it requires a great deal of tenacity, persistency, development of strategies, optimizations and lots of trial and error. Thank you so much for your work!
yess another video to watch over and over ❤ i think i've watched your "ff8 no junction" video at least 10 times
Oddly enough, non-elemental damage can be defended against with elemental materia (really helps with Ultimate Weapon, which is how I figured this out; that first encounter can be a bit brutal). You just need something like Bahamut to pair with it. I assume that it wasn't changed in later versions of the game so Ruby could have been trivialized by adding the ability to absorb both of its moves. Addendum: Tifa can actually kill Rapps before it even gets a turn if you've learned enough of her limits. Kind of a cool thing I found out back in my last playthrough of the unmodded game. Not sure if I had one of those OP accessories from the Battle Square at the time, but it's interesting how strong Tifa can get if you keep her in a strength-based build. The Mind Blow strat is probably more reliable, though, and I was going to try it out but Tifa just killed the thing in one limit so...yeah. Addendum: I'm not so sure about needing the Tiny Bronco to get the rings. I'm pretty sure I've gone back to get them immediately after getting the buggy before but I've been known for misremembering things. IGN agrees with me, at least. Addendum: Poison ticks actually deal Poison damage in this game. It's one of the reasons that you're given a Poison materia and Elemental materia in the Shinra HQ. The devs expect you to use it to halve the poison damage that the sample boss can do to whoever isn't wearing the Star Pendant. FF7 had the best element system...
Been seeing the stream notifications for so long, and every time I got excited for when iit''d be a video. Props to you, dude, this is genuinely amazing levels of dedication.
God, this is so cool. Routing and learning about people routing challenges like this is so much fucking fun.
The only FF with a better limit system than 7 is 10 - mostly because it’s basically the same system with some extra depth added.
What a fun ride! Thank you so much for the video. I don't think I have draw into a video this hard for a very long time!
God watching these streams from the start was a treat. Can't believe the mad lad did it.
This is by far my favorite challenge run I've seen of FF7. Both the video and the strategies were great to watch
Thanks for this short version and the work you put to make it ❤ sadly didn't had the time for all live streams
Fun fact: if you press R3 you activate a cheat that makes your limit break always full but it makes you immediatly heal to your max health after being attacked and you have infinite MP
If you press L3 it makes the game 3X faster if you press L3 and R3 it disables fighting but forced battles like bosses aren't disabled
That ruby weapon fight was absolute madness
this was a lot more entertaining than I thought it'd be, the hp totals being shown is a nice touch, great video c:
My man, this might be the best FF7 video I've ever seen. The run itself was really cool, the editing is on point and your commentary was both informative and entertaining. Stellar work, subbed.
Don't forget that Red's Lunatic High raises the party's evasion as well as casting haste. Sometimes you need those relentless attacks of bosses like Materia Keeper to miss just so you're not under so much pressure. (Edit a few days later: Actually I checked, only he gets the evasion boost and it's big enough that it could be detrimental so...)
Also I'm gonna be that guy: Lapis Laser probably would've let Cloud spam Climhazzard.
I am so ready for NGPlus the feature length film!
What an absolute triumph. You, sir, are a madman, but in the best possible way.
I was so sad I missed the later livestreams of this. Getting past Demon Wall was brutal.
the way i always did it as a kid was meteor rain, i would always farm for it before or in the temple so not far from what he did but with a lower level limit
@bigstopowens Yeah but on a Limit Only run, he would have had to farm hundreds of enemies to get it.
Fully expected this to be a "can only damage enemies using limits" run while allowing materia and items for all other purposes. The dedication to use next to nothing besides limits in combat is wild but made the challenge far more interesting. Impressively done
IM AT MY LIMIT
- cloud strife, 2001
watching this just reminded me how good the item, equipment, limit breaks, leveling, materia, and battle systems are in this game. I should really do another playthrough. its been like 15 years
2 hours? oh boy, gunna need a pillow and snacks for this one
The sheer amount of effort going into this video is amazing! Really enjoyed it!