Vince, I would love to come analyze how you use your tools and how to help make it more efficient. Maybe, when I'm bored and need something to do I can come out on my own dime. I actually enjoy trying to find ways to be more efficient with tools, and I've tried some strange things sometimes to make it work. That bottom rolling box on the Packout is a beast to get into, and your concern is very much valid. I'm playing around with the Packout system myself, and have thought about a couple of options and will entertain other ideas down the road. I agree that moving these boxes off and then back on can be a pain in the arse. One solution (perhaps short-term until something better) is to buy more than one 3-piece system. I have bought two, plus some extra items. And if I need to get down to lower boxes, i simply take boxes off the top and then snap them into the top box of the other stack right next to the first. Not the best solution perhaps, but it works for now, and by doing that, I don't have to immediately stack them back onto the first stack, because they're still locked into the other stack and ready to wheel away if needed. Another plan i have is to purchase a cargo trailer. And when I've bought one, I'm going to customize the inside for efficient use. And one of the things I want to do is install shelving and then buy a bunch of those very overly-priced Packout black mounting plates ($29.99) and install them onto the shelves for my Packout Boxes. By doing this, each Packout box sits on it's own on the shelves. And then, I will "build" my stack according to the job and the tools needed (either on the job or the night before). This will require being hyper-organized and really putting some thought into what does and doesn't work, and to not give up when something isn't working, and instead, just tweak and tweak until I can get it perfect. Based on any particular job at hand, we should have a pretty good idea about what tools we need (including some leeway for a few extras that may or may not be needed, depending on the more specific requirements of that particular job. And so, the plan would be to be able to open up the trailer and take only the boxes needed, stack them onto the main roller box and roll down the ramp. To make it the most effective, it might be that the bottom box would be used for things that you probably don't need, but would like on hand in case you do. And quite frankly, that other overly-priced piece, the Tool Storage Crate (for the insane price of $40.25), might actually be handy. I could stack the boxes I need and then the final topper could be the empty crate where I could then drop in my driver, saw and whatever other power tool I need. Any particular task shouldn't really need that many power tools. So then, I'm off to the races. I roll the box to the location of the work, maybe pull the top crate and set it aside, and then get to work. The other stuff I know I'll need will now be in the top box and easiest to access. And the lower the box, the least likely it will be that I'll need what's in it. It's possible that the biggest bottom box is rendered useless other than the wheels, so i can brainstorm some different solutions, including modifying the box so that I can access the contents from the side, or maybe I do a mod where that box becomes the battery charging station. If the bottom box were to be modified for side access, it might be that you would have to store one or two less tools in it to make it easier, because if you're cramming as much in there as you can now with top access, it's going to be nearly impossible to get tools back in there properly with side access. I'm also going to experiment with designing some pieces on my 3D printer. It might take me awhile, because I don't really have to go work so there is no rush, but if you're interested, I'll keep you updated on my progress.
I've got the crates, and use them just for that purpose. Always sits on top. I also have a 4 wheeled cart I use to carry around materials and such for job I'm doing, so I can bring large amounts of big connectors and couplings that would be wasteful to store in the packout system. The packout boxes amazingly fit almost perfect into the top of it and allows for easy access into the bottom big tool box.
I’d like to see them take 25-30% off across the board on Packout. I like the idea of Packout, I prefer milwuakee tools. But honestly. I don’t see how you can sell injection molded storage cases that cost more than some of their tools.
Yeah Vince. No "I told you so" here. Trying something new isn't a flaw it's how we get better as tradesman. Kudos sir and welcome back to the best tool bag ever.
Your Awesome 👌!!! I'm definitely a VCG fan now!!! I'm new to this channel, but I've been building for almost 20 years. I've recently invested ALOT of $$$ in Milwaukie Tools, (trying to go full cordless) and while, Yes! I love there stuff! It is very expensive!!! Thanks for the honesty brother!! Much love and respect!!
Vince, I love your energy! I love the fact that you speak what you experience such as the Husky bag works for you better than the Packout. I love Milwaukee tools, however I actually have the Ridgid modular tool boxes and have used Kaizen foam to rig it the way that works for me. FYI the Ridgid boxes in my opinion are the most durable and flexible for the money.
Ive been watching your channel recently and thank you for your insight to these products. I held off for a while, but recently home depot had a one day internet sale on 4 piece Fuel tools sets( drill, impact, mini sawsal and angle grinder with two 5.0 batteries and charger and the large pack out rolling box for $399. The package stated that it was $1040 worth of tools. The deals are out there and your right $279 for just the boxes are insane. When I was able to purchase all these products for $130 more.
Vince I've just retooled my truck with a huge packout system. I suspected this problem, what I've done is I'm in the high end kitchen business. And I have a huge lift on my truck . So rather than over loading the wheels I strap it to my dolly. I realize not everyone has this option. But I think this will work long term for me . It's still easier than carrying a bunch of bags and organizers. But I've been watching your videos and learning your scores . And take your advice .
I didn't buy the packout boxes back in December because 1) I missed the sale, 2) it wouldn't fit in my house in my limited space, and 3) as you mention, it seemed cumbersome. I liked the Packout soft-side tote, but, like Vince, I wasn't made of money. So I improvised: I noticed the $29 Husky 15 inch soft-side tote had 5 feet on the bottom that nested very nicely into the top plate of the low-profile Packout 5-compartment organizer (The half-wide). 5 Bolts through the tote's feet into the lid of the low profile Packout organizer firmly attached both to each other. That not only gave me storage below the tote, (I can still open the box to get access) but it added a Packout bottom attachment plate that, in turn, allows me to attach it to other Packout boxes. I bought two of the standard height 5-parts organizers, (also half-wide) so my tote assembly can snap onto those. So my stack is half the width of the 'standard' Packout boxes. I hadn't thought about it, but if I needed to wheel it around, I'd just use my standard folding hand-truck I got from Uline. I don't think I'd need to get a Packout plate to mount it to the hand truck, as a bungee should hold it fine during wheelie ops, but I suppose you can get the Packout mount plate if you wanted to if you didn't mind the hand-truck not being able to fold up. Edit: I just noticed the newly released Packout compact tool box that is also half as wide as the standard Packout boxes, so this will fit my stack as well. Perhaps a rolling half-wide tool box is coming soon?
@@bryanmcfarland967 Don't see any reason why it can't. It comes with the interior tray as well as the quick-set dividers, so that will help the tools stay vertical. Plus it has the weather seal that the totes don't obviously have. Looks like it just came out. P/N 48-22-8422
Man I just got my first few sections of the packout. I had a tool bag, two buckets, and a 30 gallon tote I was using. It's improved my work flow so much I'm gonna make my money back before September.
@VCG packout is still the best offering out there in my humble carpenters opinion. That being said there is absolutely room for improvement.....my biggest gripe Vince is the wheels on the big wheel box....😡 wheels on two separate boxes went “off the rim” idk if it is heat/cold ,heat/cold that affects the materials or what. BUT my solution was a slightly longer axle and some tractor supply replacement tires.
Can you please share with us the part you used to replace the wheels on your packout rolling tool box? I'm having a really hard time finding a replacement 9 inch wheel with all terrain tread, better construction, and proper fitment on the packout existing axle.
Big fan from Australia here. I bought the packout system (rolling toolbox, large toolbox, 2 half organisers, 1 full size organiser and the half size tote) a while back because I modernise elevators. It's great most of the time and cumbersome the rest of the time, let me tell you why. I change locations many times in the building and we actually have a storage room, so loading and unloading from a vehicle isn't a problem. The large wheels are great for going up stairs, and crossing over the elevator threshold. The system locks well, very durable and have quite a few configurations, but that's where the positives end. The rolling tool box doesn't have 4 wheels, this makes lugging nearly 80kg of tools around the place quite tiring because you HAVE to lean the stack over and then push or pull it wherever you need it. This could be fixed by having some good swivel wheels on the front. The rolling toolbox wheels do get flat spots on them when it stays stationary for a couple of days, not a big problem, but it is noticeable. Dragging all your tools out of the rolling toolbox is annoying, I wish there was a supplied organisation kit. Would really like someone to finally bring out a box that have stackable draws to eliminate the unstacking and restacking of every box you have. There is nowhere to store a spirit level and no customisable internal organisation kits. This box is not made for all trades, definitely not metal workers. I am aware that I can make something to organise the tools internally, but 8 don't have the time to do it. Edit: the tote annoys me. It's so rigid and tight that it's difficult to use ALL the pockets it provides.
Vince - love my packout for handy man missions. I do have to load & unload them to get them into my pick up truck. My #1 surprise is when I left them loaded with tools - the wheels developed flat spots. I contacted Milwaukee & they sent me new wheels, but I now place the bottom packout on an 1/8” piece of laminate & it keeps the weight off the wheels.
Hey Vince I have been using the pack out system for a year now and I have no complaints. I am finally organized and I no longer have an issue with employees not putting my tools away properly. Also I am no longer have tools come up missing makes it very easy to keep track of my tools at end of the day. Also when I'm working by myself it saves me a ton of time. It use to take at least 15 minutes to bring in all my different tools and bags now it takes me less then 5 minutes to bring my tools in and less then 5 to load back into my truck. Also I can fit all 3 pieces locked together in the back seat of my truck on 1 side and my pack out tool bag behind drivers seat. The pack out has been a god send for me and I think $279.00 is a small price to pay to keep me organized and all the time it has saved me. Every sub that I work with has went out and bought the pack out after seeing mine
I recently upgraded to the Packout about a month ago. I also had the Husky rolling bag to put all of my tools in too. I found the 3 piece Packout for $200, but I also bought the 10” Tote to put all of my hand tools in because it fits perfectly in my rolling box. I bought an additional large box to keep my power tools in since one box wasn’t enough. Even though I did spend $300+ for whole package it keeps everything organized and I don’t have mismatched tools boxes to take on the job site. Plus the Husky bag can only stack a certain amount of tool boxes.
Vince, i fully agree at retail of $279 and yet $199 is still a bit high. But for lash points, grab handles, and ease of locking together it is a great system. Something else on negative is that main box handle does not go down lower. It stand over the height of my truck bed so cannot use my cover so only rides and locks up inside the rear passenger floor.
I keep my belt and other wearable gear in the bottom case so it usually isn’t much of a problem because I take it out for the day then but it back at the end but I understand some people keep their power tools in that bottom box.
I love the packout and scored it for $157.50 during the holiday season. I, like you have other mobile storage options besides packout when I don't need that big of a storage system. I am going to get the husky when the price goes down because of the size and mobility. The one thing I've learned is none of these are perfect for every job. So the more options we have the better. So I'll use whatever I'll need for the project I'm working on.
I've done construction off and on for over a decade, mostly on. It's nice when you see other professionals give honest opinions on something, especially anyone on TH-cam with sponsors. I love Husky tools and bags, wish they made power tools. And I like Milwaukee and Dewalt power tools. I like buying better quality tools, so I don't have to buy them again. And those are my preferred brands. And even the new Rigid gen 5 has impressed me. So it's good to see someone who likes a brand that much, and still you say don't buy it at that price.
Got a 3 pc Packout and works great. Got a 2nd Bottom Roller case w/ a 2nd top box w/my m12 Drill & Impact Driver (which rocks). But this stuff stays mainly in the van. Got a similar soft sided roller than mostly comes in to job. Tough to find one system that works for every situation.
Great review regardless of what others are saying.......everyone gets hung up on brands.....but mixing different tools and tools boxes is far more efficient and will save you big financially!
@@jamieamat893 I'm not sure the 250lb weight capacity would hold up if they cut drawers in the rolling box. For the main purpose of a packout system you gotta have a strong base.
Maybe bottom one doesn't need drawers, but maybe a small opening to get to your power drills, if at all possible. I'm pretty sure the engineers can come up with something like that
Husky’s 22” connect rolling system is an amazing deal for the price. I use it everyday in new construction and it rolls over everything mud/dirt/ large gravel without issue. 1 year of hard use and it’s still going strong. It also fits under my tundra’s bed cover
I am just getting into the business nothing like full time. I looked at packout and just couldn't justify the price. I ended up going with the craftsman a la carte offering. The main box is 60 bucks the add on boxes are 20 to 40 bucks. Their new tool sets have the latches built in so everything connects securely. My 5 cordless tools fit all my hardware goes in the organizer. Hand tools go into a technicians box.
Vince. I agree with ALOT of what you are saying. I’m a service plumber Unstacking to get the the box you need is a super pain. I think it really depends on your job. I do a fair about of service callls to condos on the ocean multiple floor units. Elevators. And what not. I would not trade my pack out for any amount of money. To be able to put. My grinder. Copper cutter. M12 pvc cutter. Screw gun Some packout clear lid organizers with my copper fittings Soft tote with all my hand tools and go up 18 floors and not have to come back I just couldn’t go back to how I use to do it before pack out
You are the man thank you for doing what you do I was on my way to go get one too but then I got in a motorcycle accident I'm still laying up in the hospital now but keep doing you and I'll keep watching happy holidays
Hey Vince, I'm a Steamfitter and a Plumber. I know exactly what you are talking about when it comes to the Packout moving tools in and out of the worksite. I ended up putting my 80% Tools (which means the tools I use 80% of the time given any task) and ended up keeping some of the tools (the 20% big gun kinda tools) in the truck to reduce the weight of what I was carrying. For example I put my Fuel Hackzall in the Packout, leave the Fuel Sawzall in the truck. The price on these systems are wildly different based on retailers. In Canada we had a really amazing promotion with the bottom box, the Impact, Hammer Drill, and Sawzall w/ Batteries and a Charger with another Promo Battery for an amazing price point. I told two of my colleagues they wouldn't get any better deal to enter in the system. One of them purchased it, the other regretted not doing so. Keep up the content brother, it's always nice seeing a contractors opinion be clean, and clear.
This is why we just decided to set up 6’x12’ cargo trailers with full custom interior storage setup for our renovations business. No load and unload the truck everyday. We have been pulling the cargo setup for 3-1/2 years now and its awesome. We have everything we could possibly need on the trailer, and then just pull out the tools etc needed for that days tasks. We each have a soft side bag for basic everyday tools....impact, tape, hammer, screwdriver etc., but all of our other tools remain on the trailer. Circular saw, jig saw, compound miter saw, reciprocating saw, oscillating saw, router, demo tools, and we also have brute tubs labeled for each specific trade....paint, carpentry, tile, drywall, plumbing, electrical etc. Ive tried these various pack out type systems, but they just are user friendly on a day to day basis. We do have some components of the systems, but not as a single comprehensive set up
HD has a deal on specific Milwaukee hand tools. I got the 15" packout tote yesterday for under $80 with discount. I also like the Milwaukee fiberglass handle 19oz smooth face hammer $25. I have a couple of the old wide softside/hardtop Milwaukee rollerbags $50 HD clearance. So large rollerbag for powertools with soft cases inside rollerbag for most individual powertools. The other large roller bag is for roofs - sawsquatch, rafter/carpenter square, etc. I use a combination of 5 gal buckets for shims, handsaws, prybars, short levels, socket sets, screwdrivers. Well, many 5gal buckets for demo, interior trim, doorknobs, drywall, etc.
@@dizzydasper I just know based off what my local rep has told me about new stuff coming out. But I've only seen one new box so far. Some Depot's have dropped prices on the sets you just have to keep an eye open for it.
@@masonschild8358 in Jacksonville, FL. Online prices still show $279 but in the store they are stickered a$199. I didn't realize online still showed the 279.
thankyou.. all in all at the end of the day when the jobs done.. my cordless or things that don't get thrown into a pile (wrenches, sockets, extensions) get put away neatly.. when the job comes up, until its finished depending on job.. my tools and their associated accessories go into seperate cheap nylon bags with hard rubber pads that has been lasting and working for years.
Got the Packout on the $199 deal Home Depot has. Don’t go in and out of my bins a lot since this system went to organize at home and my work already provides bins for the power tools. Waited till I saw the price drop and my wife said “you need to organize”. Only negative is after getting mine I noticed a wheel wobble. All 32 at the store had the same wheel wobble on the right side. No good Milwaukee.
As a locksmith, safe and vault technicians and automotive locksmith it allows me a work tailored approach. Love the packout. I agree with you assessment though. But for my scope of work it's perfect. Left is safes center is installs and hardware and right is key cutting from standard to sidemill automotive programming. Grab and go.
Got packout back in January 2019 for a little under $200 at Rural King glad I got it when I did because seems like they’re up in price even at the location I got mine.
I have the pack out and rolling bag. Both are great the packout stays on the truck. The extendable handle on my rolling bag is having a issue with sometimes getting locked up and not extending fully now. I like the pack out for keeping water off power tools the rolling bag is water resistant but not the best for keeping tools dry would like to see this improved upon
Packout actually has been working good for me. I haven't had any problems with my wheels yet but I'll let you know. I'm a Mobile Diesel Diagnostic Tech/ Full Time Transit Tech and I use it to carry all my Diag Equipment. Plus I did a custom job with a packout case to hold my Picoscope in it. I'll do a video and share it with everyone.
I almost got the Packout but doesn't seem fast enough to get into bottom boxes. Looks cumbersome like you said.. I'm waiting for Dewalt ToughSystem 2.0 or I'll just get the Rigid. Better value I think.
Love your videos Vince, I see where you need the bigger husky bag. I am a hvac tech and I use the packout soft sided tool bag in my opinion it is more useful to people like me that are services techs its the most used bag in my truck but I still have my packout in my truck if needed
It's too late Vince ! Already bought it . And I love have all my tools with me when I go to a job site . I hate walking back and forth to my truck getting tools I need to finish the job.
The Milwaukee packout boxes are pretty well made, I picked up a parts organizer box and found that it was just too big. In dimensions it's much larger than my dewalt boxes but offers the same amount of storage inside maybe the slightest bit more. Packout box didn't fix on my shelf in utility van so I'm sticking with the dewalt boxes
I used the 11 bin organizer to keep all my electric meters (megohmeter, clamp meters, manometers, temp clamp probes, k type thermocouples, infrared, etc.) Organized. Just removed all the bins except one to hold all my thermocouples.
Totally agree. Like you I have the husky I bought for $89 back in 2012-2013. I scored the packout for $199 and while it’s cool it’s cumbersome. My bag is back in my trailer
I've been looking for an alternative solution to carrying my tools with me (I'm a mobile technician and audio installer) the packout system looked like a good system to invest into, but at $300 for some plastic 🤔🤔 there's gotta be a better, more convenient system somewhere ???? Or maybe I'll just do what I planned on for the past few years and just build something? My tools are heavy, my back, hips and knees aren't in love with excessive weight, so constantly removing boxes to get into the bottom section is a 100% no go for me. You're doing a great job and yes I know this is an old video but I'm here watching now as I've recently discovered the channel. You've helped me quite a bit and I appreciate what you do.
Totally agree Vince. Here in Argentina, the pack of 3 boxes costs 350 dollars while other brands cost me a third. I can recognize that they do not have the quality of packout but at the time of work they fulfill the function.
I replaced wheels right from the getgo , with heavy duty Sheppard wheels ! All I ever use is a Packout Bottom , a “ Milkcrate “ , and a full width low profile parts box.
Can you please let us know what you used for a replacement? I'm having a really hard time finding a fitting 9 inch wheel replacement for my packout rolling toolbox
Elias.H Charchar An 81/2” Sheppard caster (Solid rubber , greaseable hub) . 8 or 81/2” is max ! you need to fashion a bearing surface for the wheel , Milwaukee’s axel is only 3/8”, I used aquapex scrap , and a few stainless steel washers ( you don’t want rust dribbles on someones floor ! YMMV!
Looks cool and yes it’s versatile. However as a Makita tool fan, I think there storage boxes get overlooked a lot especially since HD doesn’t stock them. The boxes interlock to each other. They are easy to handle. I’m a business owner with a truck so getting boxes in and out are a concern. Packout just doesn’t make sense for what I need day to day. The cool thing about Makita boxes is they are interchangeable with Bosch and Festool. One company makes all of the boxes for all three brands. If you want to purchase the festool vac then the Makita boxes will snap right on top of it.
The makita boxes are not made by tanos but under license. The mafel, hitachi etc are just that bit nicer to use as the clips are better than the makita ones. I’m changing my makita ones as they break for hitachi ones as they are considerably cheaper and are better to use. All that said the tanos system is great in that it’s all modular sizes but it lacks a few things for the price point they are all ABS plastic so brittle especially in the cold. They are too small for a lot of bigger power tools, they are bloody expensive for what they are. They do make racking out a van very easy though. Tanos is owned by festool
Adam Lynch Ahhhh you must be from another country which is very cool. Mafell and Hitachi boxes aren’t popular here in the USA. Mafell are incredible tools there’s no denying that. Festool is popular and very pricy. There sustainer boxes are great. Bosch boxes are hard to find. I’ve actually never seen the Hiatachi boxes. Never had an issue with my Makita boxes but I’m always in the market for new solutions. I’m OCD when it comes to my tools and keeping everything the same. I’m sure there’s a lot of people who can relate. Tanos from what I can see, have a box line that isn’t tool manufacture labeled. I’ll check out some pricing with those. If you have a link for pricing then please forward it off. Thank you. Also if you’re from the USA then my apologies for assuming you where from another country. Haha you used the term bloody so there’s an accent.
Sean Kadar I’ve got a couple of Tanos own brand totes they were cheaper than the makita totes but still expensive. Yes I’m in uk. Festool own Tanos which is why they get the best of the innovation like the systainers with draws in etc. Panasonic have a t-loc type that are half the price of the festool ones here
We are currently working on a 59 unit apartment building and the packout is acting like my trailer. Yes its heavy but for getting all my tools from kitchen to kitchen it's great (And we have onsite storage rooms). If i had to load it in and out of a truck every day (not so good). I feel this system is definitely designed with commercial/ large projects in mind. I won't be using this in a residential application. That's why i have a construction trailer.
Nobody needs that many tools everyday 😂 only purpose I see the packout system having is hauling out dirt oh wait they do have something for that a wheel barrel 😂 😂😂
I am a Milwaukee fan as well as Festool and Woodpeckers, and I am getting one as soon as the price budges in a little. My collection of Milwaukee tools is growing fast. I love their framing nailers and super sawmill. I wish they are made in US for a few hundred more.
Vince, ive had the pro husky bag. i loved it for what i needed it for. But the milwaukee Packout system is awesome. im in and out of warehouses in NJ and PA. For the repair work i do the milwaukee is KING. I still use my husky from time to time still.
I got rid of my pack out boxes and bought the rigid boxes after the wheel broke on mine too. I REALLY like the clips on the sides of the rigid boxes. You don't have to try n hold the box while you awkwardly slide it while not sliding the entire setup. Everyone should try the rigid boxes I'm very happy with em. I still have em filled with miluakee goodies
Vince , youre havin church service, cause you preaching gospel today...everything youre saying im having issues with...i have all the modular ( Packout, Tough system, Rigid and TSTAK) units and the Husky bag on wheels , in my findingsthe TSTAK GETS MY VOTE FOR MOST VERSATILE because of the sliding drawers..thx!
It's a Mobil a system it supposed to pack up and move out Vicente softside move out system out in Texas Florida you have no time to weather changing on a outdoor service call when all my tools exposed to elements. I have 10 minutes tops before it starts boring cats and dogs on top of me and expensive test equipment water proof yes absolutely. Heavy yes heavy material cost money my man light is less material cheaper obviously great vid don't get mis understood you did hit some great target points every application is different my man but overall great to discuss topics about tools and with others who appreciate them to put bread 🍞 on the table to feed our kids and love ones God bless brother
Yo fellas! Lots of comments on this vid! Looks like you hit on a major concern of what people were thinking. Well done! Great vid! Hope you gents are having a wonderful day!!
I’m an electrician on a 20 man crew. We got 3 pack outs about 5 Dewalt box sets and 4 guys with Rigid. They all agree that pack out is the best.... especially if you’ve got stairs
I’m a glazier on a crew of about 25 no one has packout yet all either dewalt or rigid so I can’t speak on packout just in my opinion rigid is durable water resistant and fairly organized works well for me for 3 years now
So being this video was 2 years ago and I just found out about this system. Is it worth buying 275 out the door?. Or go with the new Ryobi for 189 from home Depot? I love that packout has the 2 and 3 drawers. And I am using it for hand tools as well and like to stay organized. Any thoughts. Thanks again
So I’m a DIY guy and end up doing a lot of work on my house and family/friends. I was looking for a better way to store my tools in the garage and if I have to transport them. Packout is just too pricey in my opinion to move all my m18 and m12. So I was looking at the craftsman versastack or dewalt t stack as they are interchangeable. The dewalt tough system seems awesome and allows for good wall storage of the items. Have you ever used any of the tstack or craftsman stuff? To put drills with foam and other things it seems like a good alternative especially when looking at price? Prob not good for you Vince but for storage in the shop or for me might be worth it
I started off with the dewalt tool boxes... I loved them, until I discovered ONE flaw that dewalt shares with the Milwaukee. The handle on the bottom box sticks out too high, my bed cover won't close. I had to fold up the bed cover which left everything in my truck bed exposed to the elements and theft... I ended up switching to the Ridgid boxes. The handle goes down lower and let's my bed cover close... Just thought I would share this for anyone with a bed cover that is looking for a tool box system.
Great point! I just do handyman stuff with tools in car. I have to put my Rolling Packout Box in the back seat because the handle is just a few inches too tall for my trunk.
I love my Packout stuff but idk if I would have the Packout if I didn't have a cargo trailer or a van with a ramp lol. I love their durability, waterproofing, and ability to lock them up and keep them exposed and safe in a truck bed.... But I bought the Packout before I had a cargo trailer. Now I don't really need that security, and waterproofing... I don't even need as much durability because I'm careful with my stuff.... Now I'm actually considering going with the Festool systainers that have drawers. And ya... I hate having to open the bottom containers for my caulking gun, circ saw, planer, etc lol. It sucks.
Yes, agreed, PACKOUT is the best. Hands down. Bang for the buck, I'm really thinking Ridgid brand. Although at Home Depot site , for those web searching, search "Ridgid tool box" and scroll through their options accordingly. Thanks, Vince, and God bless! 😁👍✌
I put the 10 inch tote inside my bottom box with all my hand tools inside it. Next to it is room for my tool belt , knee pads safety glasses etc. It essentially becomes a hard organised and storage with my everyday stuff in it. Maybe wastes some space but means i'm not lugging anything i don't need and i have wheels to get in and out. I'm usually no more than 2 days on one site so it works for me. Just an idea
You can get the packout lids separately. Would it be feasible to bolt one of those to a regular dolly? That way you would have the benefits of the largest box without having to have the largest box
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Hart - I went with the HART system and some customization with a dolly, RN best system Ive found. I used to use Husky boxes but there are only like 3-5 options for crates.
Pack out owner here. I will say it can be heavy and cumbersome. But I’ve organized my tools in a fashion where my top box is my most used. I bought my pack out system on Black Friday
You have the exact same accessibility issue with every brand that makes a similar/comparable system. What you don't have with the others is the amount of options
What was it about the wheel you didn't like? I noticed I didn't like the hard plastic of it to begin with but I was wondering if there was something else based from the photo on this video
I think most people are bringing everything in, and unstacking all the boxes. Then when the day is over stacking them to load back up. I personally am a die hard fan of Milwaukee tools. Use them over 40hrs a wk. They get wet, dropped, subjected to 100 plus degrees in my service van, and below zero temps. Only thing I've ever noticed is in super cold temps you can tell a slight difference in response when you first pull the trigger on my impact. No reduction in torque, speed etc. Just that one moment until the tool slightly warns up it has a slightly different response. Most people wouldn't even notice, although since I use it hrs upon hrs a week, I do.
Vince I’m a huge fan of the channel. I feel like you have been pushing the pack out system extra hard over the last couple of months... now I see a video of you telling me how it’s not so amazing... what is life anymore!!
What about the toughbuilt system available at Lowe’s , with the framer pouch and the master electrical pouch on the 16 inch tote . check out the toughbuilt system for non power hand tool storage and tool belt option
I like the fact that the Packout keeps my cordless tools protected from moisture going from truck to job in the rain or snow... Tried the first cart 15 years ago, from ZAG...( Stanley ) IT was a good proof of concept, but was poorly built. Handles would pull clear out, and box was too small. But it had utility for a while. Later would throw a milk crate like thing on top of a separate rolling platform..... it was a few minutes in and out at each jobsite to stow everything. Power tools on top in a milk crate. Things could slide away, even with a bungee cord... when I had steps or a steep sidewalk. This past December, I got a Packout with 3 components. Almsot perfect.... it will slide right up the backside of my Sprinter vans bumper onto the bed without taking it apart first, or lifting of the whole thing. The wheels and handle are strong, much better than previous rolling carts I looked at. The downside is playing TETRIS in my van. I took out the MIDDLE box from mine, and put one of the CRATES on top. That gives me an optimal layout. A removable DRAWER system would make a good end of year release for 2021. Or perhaps a VAN UPFIT system for carts to lock onto van floor and wall. The Apex is to be everything to everyone... Packout is damn close. The moment they went on sale for 199.99, that became the perceived value. You can always lower a price, but just can not raise it, without dropping off a lot of sales.The a-la-carete ( pun ) pricing on Packout is still a bit stiff..... about 20% higher than what I value it at. But I did replace a few eggcrate type boxes with the Packout ones, despite their being a little pricey. The product is exceptionally well made. The homeowner definitely does not need one. So it does not need to compete with toolbags or other tool organization. It is for jobsite-shop-van TRANSFER.
I was used 5 gallon backet for tool box and o was lose tools so i save money go to home depott and buy my PACKOUT set up whit the rolling case and i love it i need to buy more i work irrigation so i need and smale container for sprinkler heads nuzzle but i love it incluid the CRATE so handy very well tool boxes
Just curious because it has the ability to pull out any of the boxes separately, as well doubles as a dolly. I love the Milwaukee VS Dwalt tool reviews and because the price their system almost $100 more than the packout.. I'm curious about your opinion and have grown to respect it..
I fly twice a week. The canvas soft bags like klein tools bags break from the rough handling from airports. I just need to know if it's going to protect my electronic diagnosis tools and laptops.
Vince, I would love to come analyze how you use your tools and how to help make it more efficient. Maybe, when I'm bored and need something to do I can come out on my own dime.
I actually enjoy trying to find ways to be more efficient with tools, and I've tried some strange things sometimes to make it work. That bottom rolling box on the Packout is a beast to get into, and your concern is very much valid. I'm playing around with the Packout system myself, and have thought about a couple of options and will entertain other ideas down the road. I agree that moving these boxes off and then back on can be a pain in the arse. One solution (perhaps short-term until something better) is to buy more than one 3-piece system. I have bought two, plus some extra items. And if I need to get down to lower boxes, i simply take boxes off the top and then snap them into the top box of the other stack right next to the first. Not the best solution perhaps, but it works for now, and by doing that, I don't have to immediately stack them back onto the first stack, because they're still locked into the other stack and ready to wheel away if needed.
Another plan i have is to purchase a cargo trailer. And when I've bought one, I'm going to customize the inside for efficient use. And one of the things I want to do is install shelving and then buy a bunch of those very overly-priced Packout black mounting plates ($29.99) and install them onto the shelves for my Packout Boxes. By doing this, each Packout box sits on it's own on the shelves. And then, I will "build" my stack according to the job and the tools needed (either on the job or the night before). This will require being hyper-organized and really putting some thought into what does and doesn't work, and to not give up when something isn't working, and instead, just tweak and tweak until I can get it perfect. Based on any particular job at hand, we should have a pretty good idea about what tools we need (including some leeway for a few extras that may or may not be needed, depending on the more specific requirements of that particular job. And so, the plan would be to be able to open up the trailer and take only the boxes needed, stack them onto the main roller box and roll down the ramp. To make it the most effective, it might be that the bottom box would be used for things that you probably don't need, but would like on hand in case you do. And quite frankly, that other overly-priced piece, the Tool Storage Crate (for the insane price of $40.25), might actually be handy. I could stack the boxes I need and then the final topper could be the empty crate where I could then drop in my driver, saw and whatever other power tool I need. Any particular task shouldn't really need that many power tools. So then, I'm off to the races. I roll the box to the location of the work, maybe pull the top crate and set it aside, and then get to work. The other stuff I know I'll need will now be in the top box and easiest to access. And the lower the box, the least likely it will be that I'll need what's in it. It's possible that the biggest bottom box is rendered useless other than the wheels, so i can brainstorm some different solutions, including modifying the box so that I can access the contents from the side, or maybe I do a mod where that box becomes the battery charging station. If the bottom box were to be modified for side access, it might be that you would have to store one or two less tools in it to make it easier, because if you're cramming as much in there as you can now with top access, it's going to be nearly impossible to get tools back in there properly with side access. I'm also going to experiment with designing some pieces on my 3D printer. It might take me awhile, because I don't really have to go work so there is no rush, but if you're interested, I'll keep you updated on my progress.
I've got the crates, and use them just for that purpose. Always sits on top. I also have a 4 wheeled cart I use to carry around materials and such for job I'm doing, so I can bring large amounts of big connectors and couplings that would be wasteful to store in the packout system. The packout boxes amazingly fit almost perfect into the top of it and allows for easy access into the bottom big tool box.
If it was branded as a ryobi and green in colour would you buy it.
@@jonno9293 same manufacturer at least... But, if it was as good, quite likely.
@@jonno9293 Nope LOL Luckily, the mindset behind such a horrendous color matches that of the mindset behind substandard tools. :)
Haha
I’d like to see them take 25-30% off across the board on Packout. I like the idea of Packout, I prefer milwuakee tools. But honestly. I don’t see how you can sell injection molded storage cases that cost more than some of their tools.
the warranty mite be baked into that price, lifetime is no joke. they prolly wont stand by it anyways but i dunno
5:50 your expecting to empty a large box (say 3x3) into a small bag (16in)... unrealistic expectations and then to be upset that it doesn’t all fit.
@David McKee The milwuakee would probably last a lot longer, and your also paying for the fact that it attaches to the packout.
@David McKee my husky bag has held up great I love it its high quality
Yeah Vince. No "I told you so" here. Trying something new isn't a flaw it's how we get better as tradesman. Kudos sir and welcome back to the best tool bag ever.
Your Awesome 👌!!! I'm definitely a VCG fan now!!! I'm new to this channel, but I've been building for almost 20 years. I've recently invested ALOT of $$$ in Milwaukie Tools, (trying to go full cordless) and while, Yes! I love there stuff! It is very expensive!!! Thanks for the honesty brother!! Much love and respect!!
Thanks Kurt, glad the content is helpful for you! 👍🏻
I bought two 3 piece packout last thanksgiving. I’m happy with them
我有中间那个，感觉这套还是差点火候lol
Vince, I love your energy! I love the fact that you speak what you experience such as the Husky bag works for you better than the Packout. I love Milwaukee tools, however I actually have the Ridgid modular tool boxes and have used Kaizen foam to rig it the way that works for me. FYI the Ridgid boxes in my opinion are the most durable and flexible for the money.
Ive been watching your channel recently and thank you for your insight to these products. I held off for a while, but recently home depot had a one day internet sale on 4 piece Fuel tools sets( drill, impact, mini sawsal and angle grinder with two 5.0 batteries and charger and the large pack out rolling box for $399. The package stated that it was $1040 worth of tools. The deals are out there and your right $279 for just the boxes are insane. When I was able to purchase all these products for $130 more.
Hey Vince, I would really like to have drawers in the boxes for the same reason. Having to unpack every thing to get to bottom
You are so right!!! Wanted this idea for ages! I bet they are just waiting for us to buy our systems then make us spend again when they release it.
They have them now lol
Vince I've just retooled my truck with a huge packout system. I suspected this problem, what I've done is I'm in the high end kitchen business. And I have a huge lift on my truck . So rather than over loading the wheels I strap it to my dolly. I realize not everyone has this option. But I think this will work long term for me . It's still easier than carrying a bunch of bags and organizers. But I've been watching your videos and learning your scores . And take your advice .
Thanks Timothy, we appreciate the feedback!!
Husky makes some awesome bags, but that price jump is insane. Great video brother 👊👊
I didn't buy the packout boxes back in December because 1) I missed the sale, 2) it wouldn't fit in my house in my limited space, and 3) as you mention, it seemed cumbersome. I liked the Packout soft-side tote, but, like Vince, I wasn't made of money. So I improvised: I noticed the $29 Husky 15 inch soft-side tote had 5 feet on the bottom that nested very nicely into the top plate of the low-profile Packout 5-compartment organizer (The half-wide). 5 Bolts through the tote's feet into the lid of the low profile Packout organizer firmly attached both to each other. That not only gave me storage below the tote, (I can still open the box to get access) but it added a Packout bottom attachment plate that, in turn, allows me to attach it to other Packout boxes. I bought two of the standard height 5-parts organizers, (also half-wide) so my tote assembly can snap onto those. So my stack is half the width of the 'standard' Packout boxes.
I hadn't thought about it, but if I needed to wheel it around, I'd just use my standard folding hand-truck I got from Uline. I don't think I'd need to get a Packout plate to mount it to the hand truck, as a bungee should hold it fine during wheelie ops, but I suppose you can get the Packout mount plate if you wanted to if you didn't mind the hand-truck not being able to fold up.
Edit: I just noticed the newly released Packout compact tool box that is also half as wide as the standard Packout boxes, so this will fit my stack as well. Perhaps a rolling half-wide tool box is coming soon?
Hey, maybe that compact tool box would be great for hand tools? It's height and bins may allow tools to be vertically stacked.
@@bryanmcfarland967 Don't see any reason why it can't. It comes with the interior tray as well as the quick-set dividers, so that will help the tools stay vertical. Plus it has the weather seal that the totes don't obviously have. Looks like it just came out. P/N 48-22-8422
Love your approach to gear. Glad to see you saying that a product from a company you love isn’t worth buying at full price.
Thanks for the honesty!
We appreciate that Michael! 👍🏻
Man I just got my first few sections of the packout. I had a tool bag, two buckets, and a 30 gallon tote I was using. It's improved my work flow so much I'm gonna make my money back before September.
@VCG packout is still the best offering out there in my humble carpenters opinion. That being said there is absolutely room for improvement.....my biggest gripe Vince is the wheels on the big wheel box....😡 wheels on two separate boxes went “off the rim” idk if it is heat/cold ,heat/cold that affects the materials or what. BUT my solution was a slightly longer axle and some tractor supply replacement tires.
Can you please share with us the part you used to replace the wheels on your packout rolling tool box? I'm having a really hard time finding a replacement 9 inch wheel with all terrain tread, better construction, and proper fitment on the packout existing axle.
@@unlikelyninja8345 I wish the wheels were 8 or 10 inches. Harbor Freight has 8 and 10 inch wheels with a steel hub and solid rubber wheel.
can you share the wheels from tractor supply ?
Vince that was a seriously awesome video. The honesty was like water in the desert. Respect. Keep it up.
Big fan from Australia here.
I bought the packout system (rolling toolbox, large toolbox, 2 half organisers, 1 full size organiser and the half size tote) a while back because I modernise elevators. It's great most of the time and cumbersome the rest of the time, let me tell you why.
I change locations many times in the building and we actually have a storage room, so loading and unloading from a vehicle isn't a problem. The large wheels are great for going up stairs, and crossing over the elevator threshold. The system locks well, very durable and have quite a few configurations, but that's where the positives end.
The rolling tool box doesn't have 4 wheels, this makes lugging nearly 80kg of tools around the place quite tiring because you HAVE to lean the stack over and then push or pull it wherever you need it. This could be fixed by having some good swivel wheels on the front. The rolling toolbox wheels do get flat spots on them when it stays stationary for a couple of days, not a big problem, but it is noticeable. Dragging all your tools out of the rolling toolbox is annoying, I wish there was a supplied organisation kit. Would really like someone to finally bring out a box that have stackable draws to eliminate the unstacking and restacking of every box you have.
There is nowhere to store a spirit level and no customisable internal organisation kits. This box is not made for all trades, definitely not metal workers. I am aware that I can make something to organise the tools internally, but 8 don't have the time to do it.
Edit: the tote annoys me. It's so rigid and tight that it's difficult to use ALL the pockets it provides.
Thank you for the feedback!
Thanks to you, I also scored it for 174. It’s 279 by me now. I was considering a 2nd but not at the full retail.
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Vince - love my packout for handy man missions. I do have to load & unload them to get them into my pick up truck.
My #1 surprise is when I left them loaded with tools - the wheels developed flat spots. I contacted Milwaukee & they sent me new wheels, but I now place the bottom packout on an 1/8” piece of laminate & it keeps the weight off the wheels.
We appreciate the feedback Robert
That's another issue. Milwaukee should raise the wheels up a little or put a thicker bottom on the Rolling Box.
Hey Vince I have been using the pack out system for a year now and I have no complaints. I am finally organized and I no longer have an issue with employees not putting my tools away properly. Also I am no longer have tools come up missing makes it very easy to keep track of my tools at end of the day. Also when I'm working by myself it saves me a ton of time. It use to take at least 15 minutes to bring in all my different tools and bags now it takes me less then 5 minutes to bring my tools in and less then 5 to load back into my truck. Also I can fit all 3 pieces locked together in the back seat of my truck on 1 side and my pack out tool bag behind drivers seat. The pack out has been a god send for me and I think $279.00 is a small price to pay to keep me organized and all the time it has saved me. Every sub that I work with has went out and bought the pack out after seeing mine
I recently upgraded to the Packout about a month ago. I also had the Husky rolling bag to put all of my tools in too. I found the 3 piece Packout for $200, but I also bought the 10” Tote to put all of my hand tools in because it fits perfectly in my rolling box. I bought an additional large box to keep my power tools in since one box wasn’t enough. Even though I did spend $300+ for whole package it keeps everything organized and I don’t have mismatched tools boxes to take on the job site. Plus the Husky bag can only stack a certain amount of tool boxes.
Vince, i fully agree at retail of $279 and yet $199 is still a bit high. But for lash points, grab handles, and ease of locking together it is a great system. Something else on negative is that main box handle does not go down lower. It stand over the height of my truck bed so cannot use my cover so only rides and locks up inside the rear passenger floor.
I just tried puttin it in my covered truck bed and YES that handle not going down is a drag!
I keep my belt and other wearable gear in the bottom case so it usually isn’t much of a problem because I take it out for the day then but it back at the end but I understand some people keep their power tools in that bottom box.
I love the packout and scored it for $157.50 during the holiday season. I, like you have other mobile storage options besides packout when I don't need that big of a storage system. I am going to get the husky when the price goes down because of the size and mobility. The one thing I've learned is none of these are perfect for every job. So the more options we have the better. So I'll use whatever I'll need for the project I'm working on.
I've done construction off and on for over a decade, mostly on. It's nice when you see other professionals give honest opinions on something, especially anyone on TH-cam with sponsors.
I love Husky tools and bags, wish they made power tools. And I like Milwaukee and Dewalt power tools. I like buying better quality tools, so I don't have to buy them again. And those are my preferred brands. And even the new Rigid gen 5 has impressed me. So it's good to see someone who likes a brand that much, and still you say don't buy it at that price.
Got a 3 pc Packout and works great. Got a 2nd Bottom Roller case w/ a 2nd top box w/my m12 Drill & Impact Driver (which rocks). But this stuff stays mainly in the van. Got a similar soft sided roller than mostly comes in to job. Tough to find one system that works for every situation.
Great review regardless of what others are saying.......everyone gets hung up on brands.....but mixing different tools and tools boxes is far more efficient and will save you big financially!
Imagine a Milwaukee packout box with sliding drawer fronts so you don't have to open every box
The bottom one at least. Tha would be dope
Guess they listened fellas. 2 and 3 drawer options are now available.
@@mitchellarmyguy2515 can't have it as the bottom box with the wheels sadly
@@jamieamat893 I'm not sure the 250lb weight capacity would hold up if they cut drawers in the rolling box. For the main purpose of a packout system you gotta have a strong base.
Maybe bottom one doesn't need drawers, but maybe a small opening to get to your power drills, if at all possible. I'm pretty sure the engineers can come up with something like that
COULD NOT AGREE MORE. I bought the bottom crate seperatly and ive been building my system based on what I ABSOLUTELY NEED.
Husky’s 22” connect rolling system is an amazing deal for the price. I use it everyday in new construction and it rolls over everything mud/dirt/ large gravel without issue. 1 year of hard use and it’s still going strong. It also fits under my tundra’s bed cover
Yea, the Rolling Packout Box needs a shorter handle or a way of easily removing the handle.
I am just getting into the business nothing like full time. I looked at packout and just couldn't justify the price. I ended up going with the craftsman a la carte offering. The main box is 60 bucks the add on boxes are 20 to 40 bucks. Their new tool sets have the latches built in so everything connects securely. My 5 cordless tools fit all my hardware goes in the organizer. Hand tools go into a technicians box.
Vince. I agree with ALOT of what you are saying. I’m a service plumber Unstacking to get the the box you need is a super pain. I think it really depends on your job. I do a fair about of service callls to condos on the ocean multiple floor units. Elevators. And what not. I would not trade my pack out for any amount of money. To be able to put. My grinder. Copper cutter. M12 pvc cutter. Screw gun Some packout clear lid organizers with my copper fittings Soft tote with all my hand tools and go up 18 floors and not have to come back I just couldn’t go back to how I use to do it before pack out
Thank you for the feedback Thomas!
You are the man thank you for doing what you do I was on my way to go get one too but then I got in a motorcycle accident I'm still laying up in the hospital now but keep doing you and I'll keep watching happy holidays
Hey Vince, I'm a Steamfitter and a Plumber. I know exactly what you are talking about when it comes to the Packout moving tools in and out of the worksite. I ended up putting my 80% Tools (which means the tools I use 80% of the time given any task) and ended up keeping some of the tools (the 20% big gun kinda tools) in the truck to reduce the weight of what I was carrying. For example I put my Fuel Hackzall in the Packout, leave the Fuel Sawzall in the truck.
The price on these systems are wildly different based on retailers. In Canada we had a really amazing promotion with the bottom box, the Impact, Hammer Drill, and Sawzall w/ Batteries and a Charger with another Promo Battery for an amazing price point. I told two of my colleagues they wouldn't get any better deal to enter in the system. One of them purchased it, the other regretted not doing so.
Keep up the content brother, it's always nice seeing a contractors opinion be clean, and clear.
Thanks Peter we appreciate it!
This is why we just decided to set up 6’x12’ cargo trailers with full custom interior storage setup for our renovations business. No load and unload the truck everyday. We have been pulling the cargo setup for 3-1/2 years now and its awesome. We have everything we could possibly need on the trailer, and then just pull out the tools etc needed for that days tasks. We each have a soft side bag for basic everyday tools....impact, tape, hammer, screwdriver etc., but all of our other tools remain on the trailer. Circular saw, jig saw, compound miter saw, reciprocating saw, oscillating saw, router, demo tools, and we also have brute tubs labeled for each specific trade....paint, carpentry, tile, drywall, plumbing, electrical etc.
Ive tried these various pack out type systems, but they just are user friendly on a day to day basis. We do have some components of the systems, but not as a single comprehensive set up
HD has a deal on specific Milwaukee hand tools. I got the 15" packout tote yesterday for under $80 with discount. I also like the Milwaukee fiberglass handle 19oz smooth face hammer $25. I have a couple of the old wide softside/hardtop Milwaukee rollerbags $50 HD clearance. So large rollerbag for powertools with soft cases inside rollerbag for most individual powertools. The other large roller bag is for roofs - sawsquatch, rafter/carpenter square, etc. I use a combination of 5 gal buckets for shims, handsaws, prybars, short levels, socket sets, screwdrivers. Well, many 5gal buckets for demo, interior trim, doorknobs, drywall, etc.
I love my packout so far. Our van has the plates now so you can build it as you need onto the base. Works great. Sorry you had issues bro!
Thanks Cuz!
Milwaukee has a bunch of new Packout gear coming out this year I say hold that thought and see what happens. But yes your right $279 is to high.
Do you have a link? I tried to look it up but I can't find anything.
Home Depot has a price drop to $199 now. Little more worth it at the price
@@dizzydasper I just know based off what my local rep has told me about new stuff coming out. But I've only seen one new box so far.
Some Depot's have dropped prices on the sets you just have to keep an eye open for it.
Randall Jacobson where at? Nothing online or in stores here. Unless yours is trying to sell old Black Friday stock still
@@masonschild8358 in Jacksonville, FL. Online prices still show $279 but in the store they are stickered a$199. I didn't realize online still showed the 279.
Great video Vince! As always.
thankyou..
all in all at the end of the day when the jobs done.. my cordless or things that don't get thrown into a pile (wrenches, sockets, extensions)
get put away neatly.. when the job comes up, until its finished depending on job.. my tools and their associated accessories go into seperate cheap nylon bags with hard rubber pads that has been lasting and working for years.
Got the Packout on the $199 deal Home Depot has. Don’t go in and out of my bins a lot since this system went to organize at home and my work already provides bins for the power tools. Waited till I saw the price drop and my wife said “you need to organize”. Only negative is after getting mine I noticed a wheel wobble. All 32 at the store had the same wheel wobble on the right side. No good Milwaukee.
As a locksmith, safe and vault technicians and automotive locksmith it allows me a work tailored approach. Love the packout. I agree with you assessment though. But for my scope of work it's perfect. Left is safes center is installs and hardware and right is key cutting from standard to sidemill automotive programming. Grab and go.
Thank you for the feedback!
Got packout back in January 2019 for a little under $200 at Rural King glad I got it when I did because seems like they’re up in price even at the location I got mine.
I have the pack out and rolling bag. Both are great the packout stays on the truck. The extendable handle on my rolling bag is having a issue with sometimes getting locked up and not extending fully now. I like the pack out for keeping water off power tools the rolling bag is water resistant but not the best for keeping tools dry would like to see this improved upon
Good feedback Leroy!
You are right the extendable handle is sticking on mine also
@@ricohomeservice4674 I knew I wasn't the only one.
Packout actually has been working good for me. I haven't had any problems with my wheels yet but I'll let you know. I'm a Mobile Diesel Diagnostic Tech/ Full Time Transit Tech and I use it to carry all my Diag Equipment. Plus I did a custom job with a packout case to hold my Picoscope in it. I'll do a video and share it with everyone.
I almost got the Packout but doesn't seem fast enough to get into bottom boxes. Looks cumbersome like you said.. I'm waiting for Dewalt ToughSystem 2.0 or I'll just get the Rigid. Better value I think.
Vince, thanks for your honesty!
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Love your videos Vince, I see where you need the bigger husky bag. I am a hvac tech and I use the packout soft sided tool bag in my opinion it is more useful to people like me that are services techs its the most used bag in my truck but I still have my packout in my truck if needed
Good stuff William, we appreciate the input!
It's too late Vince ! Already bought it . And I love have all my tools with me when I go to a job site . I hate walking back and forth to my truck getting tools I need to finish the job.
The Milwaukee packout boxes are pretty well made, I picked up a parts organizer box and found that it was just too big. In dimensions it's much larger than my dewalt boxes but offers the same amount of storage inside maybe the slightest bit more. Packout box didn't fix on my shelf in utility van so I'm sticking with the dewalt boxes
I used the 11 bin organizer to keep all my electric meters (megohmeter, clamp meters, manometers, temp clamp probes, k type thermocouples, infrared, etc.) Organized. Just removed all the bins except one to hold all my thermocouples.
Totally agree. Like you I have the husky I bought for $89 back in 2012-2013. I scored the packout for $199 and while it’s cool it’s cumbersome. My bag is back in my trailer
I've been looking for an alternative solution to carrying my tools with me (I'm a mobile technician and audio installer) the packout system looked like a good system to invest into, but at $300 for some plastic 🤔🤔 there's gotta be a better, more convenient system somewhere ???? Or maybe I'll just do what I planned on for the past few years and just build something? My tools are heavy, my back, hips and knees aren't in love with excessive weight, so constantly removing boxes to get into the bottom section is a 100% no go for me. You're doing a great job and yes I know this is an old video but I'm here watching now as I've recently discovered the channel. You've helped me quite a bit and I appreciate what you do.
Totally agree Vince. Here in Argentina, the pack of 3 boxes costs 350 dollars while other brands cost me a third.
I can recognize that they do not have the quality of packout but at the time of work they fulfill the function.
Wow that is exspensive!
I absolutely love my packout with organizer. Daily use with no issues
I replaced wheels right from the getgo , with heavy duty Sheppard wheels ! All I ever use is a Packout Bottom , a “ Milkcrate “ , and a full width low profile parts box.
Can you please let us know what you used for a replacement? I'm having a really hard time finding a fitting 9 inch wheel replacement for my packout rolling toolbox
Elias.H Charchar An 81/2” Sheppard caster (Solid rubber , greaseable hub) . 8 or 81/2” is max ! you need to fashion a bearing surface for the wheel , Milwaukee’s axel is only 3/8”, I used aquapex scrap , and a few stainless steel washers ( you don’t want rust dribbles on someones floor ! YMMV!
@@unlikelyninja8345 try honda lawnmower replacement wheels at hd they are same size of Milwaukee let me know if work for you
Thanks for being so real
very nice video the dewalt tough system has the same limitations we take the good with the bad i guess whats the other option?
Looks cool and yes it’s versatile. However as a Makita tool fan, I think there storage boxes get overlooked a lot especially since HD doesn’t stock them. The boxes interlock to each other. They are easy to handle. I’m a business owner with a truck so getting boxes in and out are a concern. Packout just doesn’t make sense for what I need day to day. The cool thing about Makita boxes is they are interchangeable with Bosch and Festool. One company makes all of the boxes for all three brands. If you want to purchase the festool vac then the Makita boxes will snap right on top of it.
That’s good feedback Sean, thanks!
VCG Construction you’re welcome. Hope it helps someone out in the gang.
The makita boxes are not made by tanos but under license. The mafel, hitachi etc are just that bit nicer to use as the clips are better than the makita ones. I’m changing my makita ones as they break for hitachi ones as they are considerably cheaper and are better to use.
All that said the tanos system is great in that it’s all modular sizes but it lacks a few things for the price point they are all ABS plastic so brittle especially in the cold. They are too small for a lot of bigger power tools, they are bloody expensive for what they are. They do make racking out a van very easy though.
Tanos is owned by festool
Adam Lynch Ahhhh you must be from another country which is very cool. Mafell and Hitachi boxes aren’t popular here in the USA. Mafell are incredible tools there’s no denying that. Festool is popular and very pricy. There sustainer boxes are great. Bosch boxes are hard to find. I’ve actually never seen the Hiatachi boxes. Never had an issue with my Makita boxes but I’m always in the market for new solutions. I’m OCD when it comes to my tools and keeping everything the same. I’m sure there’s a lot of people who can relate. Tanos from what I can see, have a box line that isn’t tool manufacture labeled. I’ll check out some pricing with those. If you have a link for pricing then please forward it off. Thank you. Also if you’re from the USA then my apologies for assuming you where from another country. Haha you used the term bloody so there’s an accent.
Sean Kadar I’ve got a couple of Tanos own brand totes they were cheaper than the makita totes but still expensive.
Yes I’m in uk.
Festool own Tanos which is why they get the best of the innovation like the systainers with draws in etc.
Panasonic have a t-loc type that are half the price of the festool ones here
We are currently working on a 59 unit apartment building and the packout is acting like my trailer. Yes its heavy but for getting all my tools from kitchen to kitchen it's great (And we have onsite storage rooms). If i had to load it in and out of a truck every day (not so good). I feel this system is definitely designed with commercial/ large projects in mind. I won't be using this in a residential application. That's why i have a construction trailer.
Nobody needs that many tools everyday 😂 only purpose I see the packout system having is hauling out dirt oh wait they do have something for that a wheel barrel 😂 😂😂
I am a Milwaukee fan as well as Festool and Woodpeckers, and I am getting one as soon as the price budges in a little. My collection of Milwaukee tools is growing fast. I love their framing nailers and super sawmill. I wish they are made in US for a few hundred more.
Vince, ive had the pro husky bag. i loved it for what i needed it for. But the milwaukee Packout system is awesome. im in and out of warehouses in NJ and PA. For the repair work i do the milwaukee is KING. I still use my husky from time to time still.
I got rid of my pack out boxes and bought the rigid boxes after the wheel broke on mine too. I REALLY like the clips on the sides of the rigid boxes. You don't have to try n hold the box while you awkwardly slide it while not sliding the entire setup. Everyone should try the rigid boxes I'm very happy with em. I still have em filled with miluakee goodies
Vince , youre havin church service, cause you preaching gospel today...everything youre saying im having issues with...i have all the modular ( Packout, Tough system, Rigid and TSTAK) units and the Husky bag on wheels , in my findingsthe TSTAK GETS MY VOTE FOR MOST VERSATILE because of the sliding drawers..thx!
It's a Mobil a system it supposed to pack up and move out Vicente softside move out system out in Texas Florida you have no time to weather changing on a outdoor service call when all my tools exposed to elements. I have 10 minutes tops before it starts boring cats and dogs on top of me and expensive test equipment water proof yes absolutely. Heavy yes heavy material cost money my man light is less material cheaper obviously great vid don't get mis understood you did hit some great target points every application is different my man but overall great to discuss topics about tools and with others who appreciate them to put bread 🍞 on the table to feed our kids and love ones God bless brother
Yo fellas! Lots of comments on this vid! Looks like you hit on a major concern of what people were thinking. Well done! Great vid! Hope you gents are having a wonderful day!!
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Happy Saturday thx for your honesty
I use the Rigid storage boxes and imo for the $ it’s a solid storage solution
Yeah me too. Best bang for your buck
Yep no complaints here.
I’m an electrician on a 20 man crew. We got 3 pack outs about 5 Dewalt box sets and 4 guys with Rigid. They all agree that pack out is the best.... especially if you’ve got stairs
I’m a glazier on a crew of about 25 no one has packout yet all either dewalt or rigid so I can’t speak on packout just in my opinion rigid is durable water resistant and fairly organized works well for me for 3 years now
Been using the rigid boxes for years doing commercial mill work and I have been super happy. Can't go wrong for all three boxes at $100 bucks.
So being this video was 2 years ago and I just found out about this system. Is it worth buying 275 out the door?. Or go with the new Ryobi for 189 from home Depot? I love that packout has the 2 and 3 drawers. And I am using it for hand tools as well and like to stay organized. Any thoughts. Thanks again
So I’m a DIY guy and end up doing a lot of work on my house and family/friends. I was looking for a better way to store my tools in the garage and if I have to transport them. Packout is just too pricey in my opinion to move all my m18 and m12. So I was looking at the craftsman versastack or dewalt t stack as they are interchangeable. The dewalt tough system seems awesome and allows for good wall storage of the items. Have you ever used any of the tstack or craftsman stuff? To put drills with foam and other things it seems like a good alternative especially when looking at price? Prob not good for you Vince but for storage in the shop or for me might be worth it
I started off with the dewalt tool boxes... I loved them, until I discovered ONE flaw that dewalt shares with the Milwaukee. The handle on the bottom box sticks out too high, my bed cover won't close. I had to fold up the bed cover which left everything in my truck bed exposed to the elements and theft... I ended up switching to the Ridgid boxes. The handle goes down lower and let's my bed cover close... Just thought I would share this for anyone with a bed cover that is looking for a tool box system.
Great point! I just do handyman stuff with tools in car. I have to put my Rolling Packout Box in the back seat because the handle is just a few inches too tall for my trunk.
I love my Packout stuff but idk if I would have the Packout if I didn't have a cargo trailer or a van with a ramp lol. I love their durability, waterproofing, and ability to lock them up and keep them exposed and safe in a truck bed.... But I bought the Packout before I had a cargo trailer. Now I don't really need that security, and waterproofing... I don't even need as much durability because I'm careful with my stuff.... Now I'm actually considering going with the Festool systainers that have drawers. And ya... I hate having to open the bottom containers for my caulking gun, circ saw, planer, etc lol. It sucks.
Yes, agreed, PACKOUT is the best. Hands down. Bang for the buck, I'm really thinking Ridgid brand. Although at Home Depot site , for those web searching, search "Ridgid tool box" and scroll through their options accordingly. Thanks, Vince, and God bless! 😁👍✌
I put the 10 inch tote inside my bottom box with all my hand tools inside it. Next to it is room for my tool belt , knee pads safety glasses etc. It essentially becomes a hard organised and storage with my everyday stuff in it. Maybe wastes some space but means i'm not lugging anything i don't need and i have wheels to get in and out. I'm usually no more than 2 days on one site so it works for me. Just an idea
Black Friday sale Williston Vermont $179.00 just got mine and love it
Have they fixed it? I’m planning to get this this holiday season.
You can get the packout lids separately. Would it be feasible to bolt one of those to a regular dolly? That way you would have the benefits of the largest box without having to have the largest box
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Hart - I went with the HART system and some customization with a dolly, RN best system Ive found. I used to use Husky boxes but there are only like 3-5 options for crates.
Pack out owner here. I will say it can be heavy and cumbersome. But I’ve organized my tools in a fashion where my top box is my most used. I bought my pack out system on Black Friday
You have the exact same accessibility issue with every brand that makes a similar/comparable system. What you don't have with the others is the amount of options
Couldn’t agree more. This dudes on some infomercial bullshit with his examples of frustrating situations with the packout system.
If you are going fo a standard 3 Stack, stanley has a nice system with a pullout drawer at the bottom
Vince have you tried opening the bottom box on the dewalt toughsystem?
you make good sense man, appreciate the truth
What was it about the wheel you didn't like? I noticed I didn't like the hard plastic of it to begin with but I was wondering if there was something else based from the photo on this video
So what's the deal with the broken wheel on the thumb nail
Bought me first kit today. Upgrade from dewalt tough system for the past 4 yrs. $199. Open been on top. Gonna keep adding to it.
For a DIYer like me, the husky 22 inch connect system works fine. I got mine for $90 in Canada.
I think most people are bringing everything in, and unstacking all the boxes. Then when the day is over stacking them to load back up. I personally am a die hard fan of Milwaukee tools. Use them over 40hrs a wk. They get wet, dropped, subjected to 100 plus degrees in my service van, and below zero temps. Only thing I've ever noticed is in super cold temps you can tell a slight difference in response when you first pull the trigger on my impact. No reduction in torque, speed etc. Just that one moment until the tool slightly warns up it has a slightly different response. Most people wouldn't even notice, although since I use it hrs upon hrs a week, I do.
Thanks for the honest video. And what is wrong with DeWalt ToughSystem/tstack?
Those husky tool bags are great I have one too and I have husky one u carry I love them
Vince I’m a huge fan of the channel. I feel like you have been pushing the pack out system extra hard over the last couple of months... now I see a video of you telling me how it’s not so amazing... what is life anymore!!
You see me push it when it’s on sale
VCG Construction I see you over there Vince! Lol
What about the toughbuilt system available at Lowe’s , with the framer pouch and the master electrical pouch on the 16 inch tote . check out the toughbuilt system for non power hand tool storage and tool belt option
I like the fact that the Packout keeps my cordless tools protected from moisture going from truck to job in the rain or snow... Tried the first cart 15 years ago, from ZAG...( Stanley ) IT was a good proof of concept, but was poorly built. Handles would pull clear out, and box was too small. But it had utility for a while. Later would throw a milk crate like thing on top of a separate rolling platform..... it was a few minutes in and out at each jobsite to stow everything. Power tools on top in a milk crate. Things could slide away, even with a bungee cord... when I had steps or a steep sidewalk. This past December, I got a Packout with 3 components. Almsot perfect.... it will slide right up the backside of my Sprinter vans bumper onto the bed without taking it apart first, or lifting of the whole thing. The wheels and handle are strong, much better than previous rolling carts I looked at. The downside is playing TETRIS in my van. I took out the MIDDLE box from mine, and put one of the CRATES on top. That gives me an optimal layout. A removable DRAWER system would make a good end of year release for 2021. Or perhaps a VAN UPFIT system for carts to lock onto van floor and wall. The Apex is to be everything to everyone... Packout is damn close. The moment they went on sale for 199.99, that became the perceived value. You can always lower a price, but just can not raise it, without dropping off a lot of sales.The a-la-carete ( pun ) pricing on Packout is still a bit stiff..... about 20% higher than what I value it at. But I did replace a few eggcrate type boxes with the Packout ones, despite their being a little pricey. The product is exceptionally well made. The homeowner definitely does not need one. So it does not need to compete with toolbags or other tool organization. It is for jobsite-shop-van TRANSFER.
What are those boots you are wearing? They look like they have alot of padding. Thanks
I was used 5 gallon backet for tool box and o was lose tools so i save money go to home depott and buy my PACKOUT set up whit the rolling case and i love it i need to buy more i work irrigation so i need and smale container for sprinkler heads nuzzle but i love it incluid the CRATE so handy very well tool boxes
Have you reviewed the DWALT ToughSystem 27 in. DS Tool Box Carrier, DS400 XL Tool Box, DS300 L Tool Box and DS130 Tool Box Combo Set??
Just curious because it has the ability to pull out any of the boxes separately, as well doubles as a dolly. I love the Milwaukee VS Dwalt tool reviews and because the price their system almost $100 more than the packout.. I'm curious about your opinion and have grown to respect it..
If the crate had an access point while stacked, the addition of lockable drawer system. Would help a lot
They have a drawer system now!
I fly twice a week. The canvas soft bags like klein tools bags break from the rough handling from airports. I just need to know if it's going to protect my electronic diagnosis tools and laptops.
If you're flying and checking gear I would 100% go with Pelican cases.
What about the New Klein rolling bag? Have you gave it a try?
Glad I am on not only one with that problem with the Packout.
I told you about the wheel problem. Pack out is still number 1 In my case. Love the system and tools