An honest review will often favor Milwaukie, they make some good tools that have stood the test of time. Even though we've upgraded to battery tools the old 38 year old Milwaukie saw still gets broken out every house to rip 2x4's into 2x2's for the soffit. A few sets of brushes and a few cords over the years and that saw has cut a 2 by at least around the Earth once.
@@rogerflanigan6427 agreed! When he started talking shit about the plastic holding up over time I was like wait isn't this gna piss off Milwaukee lol. Love the honest reviews.
Gonna be hard to lower the price when the local company here making them wants more money to make them because of how "hard" they are to make vs other hand trucks. Milwaukee and us customers have really high standards. It probably could come in lower price but then they would be even crappier.
For the price, it needs to be aluminum not plastic and the wheels rubber not hard plastic. Hard plastic wheels will mark-up and scratch finished floors that the customer will not be happy with.
Needs to be no-flat tires sized like a standard handcart has. The company i work for had bought a appliance dolly from lowes and the only issue we have is the hard plastic wheels, tractor supply has one identical except it has plastic rims with rubber overmolded tires i think its cheaper too
Before all this packout crazyness I used a bunch of milkcrates and ratchet strapped them to my hand-truck. Then throw the tool duffel on top. The drill boxes like to slide around and would always slide off.
Great idea just don't buy the milwaukee handcart I bought one last year on pre black Friday and one wheel holders that swings out when you unfold, busted going across brick side walk, still works but does not gold out on its own. Didn't make a year, I'm glad I got half price.
You can't collapse the handle so you can't open the boxes without removing them like you can on the rolling tool toolbox. The boxes with drawers that are soon to be released would work well on this. That being said, the rolling toolbox should have had drawers for the base unit so you could have access with other boxes on top.
Ya a rolling toolbox with drawers is a common ask I see. I don't like my current packout setup. I need to make rolling dollies for them that I can slide a hand truck into as needed. Preferably a system that can tackle wood stairs in a delicate fashion while holding 300lbs or so. Before that though I need to make bays in my vehicle to hold my stacks in transport. Things have been getting shifty now that stacks are growing taller.
My take as a UPS driver that uses a dolly hundreds of times a day. It flexes like crazy just moving it around without a load. It also looks really wide and the two handed latches for the bottom would drive me bonkers. Think Milwaukee didnt think this one out.
Definitely could use a roll pin spring loaded hinge w/ pressure latch on that base to solve two problems. It would eliminate the two separate release latches to fold AND hold the flipped base tight to the handle while folded away as it was noted in the beginning of the video there is no latch or catch. Def not 2 C-note worthy.
Thank you Vince as always for your wonderful review of tools. I agree with you $200 for plastic is a little hefty, but the only way they(Milwaukee) will learn to structure the price correctly is by people not buying it. I own the Dewalt cart that you showed in one of your reviews and it is heavy duty and it works for me in my warehouse,but I don’t think I would spend $200 on this and I am a huge,huge,huge Milwaukee fan! So when they put it on clearance then and only then I would buy it. Why wouldn’t they use steel verses plastic? Obviously it’s a dollar thing with them, so the end-user has to be a dollar thing with them also! Who will win this war? We will see in time. Hopefully the consumer. Also like to take this time to thank you again for all the hard work that you do day in and day out! It’s not easy doing all the legwork, filming etc... on a daily basis and all for your viewers. I for one am extremely grateful for all you!!! You’re amazing my friend… Simply amazing! Bob
I appreciate the feedback Bob, I for one feel that the cross members on this unit need to be metal! Popping that crate in and out over time on the top crossmember will likely cause failure! Even if Milwaukee made those improvements to this cart, I don’t think the market would pay more than the 200. Thanks brother, and have an awesome day!
Hey Bob, I completely agree with you. Hopefully nobody buys this piece of junk. I cannot believe they would put plastic on this thing in a vulnerable area were it should obviously be metal. People like you, me, Vince, and pretty much everybody else on this channel would break this thing in 1 use. All the torquing and twisting you would cause bringing it up and down stairs loading it off and on the truck. Rolling it around rough terrain. The thing would twist apart and snap in half.That’s really disappointing as I am also a huge huge Milwaukee fan. I expected a lot more from our beloved Milwaukee.
@@eliadbu they should have made a metal frame with plastic anker points then they could upgrade to metal anker's on the 2nd gen. But 200$ for plastic hand truck? You can buy all metal higher weight capacity had trucks for 150 or all I would do is purchase a anker bracket and weld it to the bottom then I can stack my packout I would still come in lower then 200$
@@ericspeeder20226789should've could've would've, doesn't matter people expect the most durable solution for that cash. Could be great plastic but in the end plastic is plastic.
@@JWimpy TBH bad or subpar products damage your brand name. Companies like milwaukee would prefer to maintain good brand name and not rely on releasing product that are no good just to release new revision that fix them.
I was going to buy that, I have some new appliances coming and I need a new 2 wheeler. Broke mine last year. That is too much plastic thanks for the heads up VeryCoolGang
Thanks for the honest review; really glad I passed on this item. Milwaukee needs to ask themselves, “Does this need more metal?” And the answer is almost always yes. 🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻
A better solution is probably to modify a traditional hand truck and affix Packout adapters (such as the wall mount or truck mounts). You'll forgo the collapsible and compact features, but it'll definitely be more durable (especially the wheels). I've also seen some cool long-tool storage adapters (I think they're 3rd party products) that can attach to the corner rails of the Packout boxes that can hold levels, squares, etc and I've even seen one for a ladder. Thanks for the honest review as always!
Ya I'm looking @ making rolling dollies with packout mounts. I'm not certain I like lots of the rail mods. They add to the dimensions of the boxes that are already battling for space on transport for me. I'm not ruling them out completley, but for now it's a no go. After I get the vehicle more sorted I may have room for some on the side of one stack.
Great vid Vince. Your correct, the whole cart needs to be metal. My electrical tool box weighs 60lbs alone. It would rip the clips right out of that thing. Especially rolling around muddy, rocky rough construction sites. And on that note, wider tires would be nice too. It seems they made a 'mall crawler' that's all flash and no beef. One reason why I use Ridgid portable toolboxes. I beat the heck out of them and they're inexpensive enough to replace when I need to.
Thank you so much for showing us that Vince. I can’t believe they would put plastic on that thing. Especially in areas that are going to receive alot of punishment and stress. It seems like that thing would break after one use. Taking it on and off of the truck going up and downstairs. The torquing and twisting on the frame depending on how much weight you load it with, I would expect it to snap in half. LOL. I was really looking forward to buying it but I’m glad I saw your video first. You just saved me 2 hundo brother. That thing needs to be way more heavy duty. Maybe bigger tires as well. I don’t think I see those little wheels making it across some job sites specially after rain or snow. They’re just simply too small to skinny. Put beefier tires on it and an all metal frame while keeping the price the same, then and only then would I buy one. I’m very disappointed with this offering and expected a lot more from Milwaukee.
With all the aftermarket packout pieces out there, you could buy a regular hand truck and just make your own. It would definitely outlast the Milwaukee one
Pretty much just added that same comment above, I could make a loads better version of this with an all metal £50 sack trolley and some aftermarket packout cleats! It’d be loads better too!
My bad, I posted something similar and I was late to the party. I agree with using our ingenuity and aftermarket accessories. Who sells aftermarket items for packouts, btw?
exactly , for $ 200 dollars i can build my own , have fun building it and it will be way more durable. Packout in general is great but too damn expensive. I only own a couple pieces that i rarely take off the truck.
I’m sticking with the Dewalt tough system. The wall mount system is phenomenal. I can grab any box I want without unstacking half of my tools. Also, their cart is built like a tank. Nice review!
So Im an hvac installer and use this cart and love it. I bring in the pack outs I need with my dolly. Then use this dolly to pull their old furnace out and bring the new one in. Handles weight surprisingly well. And being plastic it’s so light weight.
@@dennyk2294 Milwaukee sells a regular steel hand truck on Amazon for $137. This shouldn't be more expensive. All someone has to do a mod a steel frame hand truck with packout attahments.
I went with the rigid boxes several years ago and have been happy with them, but I do look at the variety of pack out accessories with a little bit of jealousy. That is until I see the prices. It's sort of like buying popcorn in a movie theater. Milwaukee puts a really high markup on packout things because you are a captive consumer. The $300 radio is a good example. That's crazy.
Great review and props to big red for offering this. I'm a Plumber and already invested into team yellow racking system including their hand truck version years ago and I use it for water heaters. I've since ditched all my team yellow tools and replaced them with a mix of team orange octane/team red, but keeping the team yellow racking system because I like how van, shop racks and cart use the forks which allows convenient access to individual boxes without the need to separate them. Plus I love how I can fold the forks flat to wall in my van for open space to carry large items.
thank you for sharing. Great video as always. Love your honest. I agree with you on the cart and its all plastic built. Living in the Chicago where once winter sets in and the temps are below 30 for 2 to 3 months, I believe like you it will not last. Also the extreme temp changes from outside to inside. Over the years I have cracked a few pack out boxes in the winter, when one fell out of the back of the truck and another hit the corner of a build when carrying it. I would like more metal on the main structure of the cart. I wondering if Milwaukee is getting a little greed on their pricing, because of their popularity with consumers. All the best to you and your family.
Good points, Vince They need to either lower the price, or make it with more metal. This version should be $100 and a “pro” model, made of metal, for $199
We need a head to head comparison Milwaukee pack out cart Vs. Dewatlt tough system cart..also its probably $200 to cover the warranty on the plastic? 🤷♂️ Great video VCG 👊
Yep, $200 is a lot for plastic. Also, the fact that you have to hang a pack-out crate on the easily broken plastic hanger before you can stack things up top is disappointing as well.
90% percent of my tools is Milwaukee and a lots of packout cases, i’m in the construction business. Milwaukee should re design this cart, Dewalt has a good one! I was really glad when milwaukee had presented this one this year, but the closing feature for the bottom plate seems bad and too many plastic pieces is never good especially for a tool that’s meant to take some what of a beaten. Milwaukee also needs an individual big box like the old cart. I honestly hope that Milwaukee modifies the new cart, i’ll pay the extra bucks for a cart that’s heavy duty and that’s going to make my job easier!
When the motivation of innovation is to “design to fail” we get products liken this. Instead of with quality designs and functions to last a generation at least........
Idk, reinforced plastics have come along way. Milwaukee IMO has proved itself to be pricey yes, but durable and high quality with innovative design. I see your point though.
This hand cart might not be the best quality but the pack out system as a whole is superb quality. The plastic is incredibly durable and will last unless you really abuse your tools
I agree with the packout system. My statement was a broad generality and was more referring to the new dolly. But as was mentioned above, you cant release and sell version x,y,z if you make it bullet proof the first time.
That makes no sense given the lifetime warranty. Have you used one? I drop mine out of my trailer everyday fully loaded about 2 1/2 feet from the trailer to the ground and hasn’t had a single issue. I move appliances daily and the plastic frame allows you to slide it up stairs without destroying the treads. I kinda wish the bottom had a plastic bottom so it wouldn’t scratch sliding around inside the job.
Milwaukee already gives us a plastic cart on the PackOut system. I don't like the wheels inside the rail, outside the rail would give a wider stance and throw on the rugged terrain wheels from the PackOut. Move the tall tool holder to the outside rails so those tools aren't smacking us in the face. Lower the price after all that is fixed.
Vince +1 long term view. I'm not a contractor. My tools are my tools. I still tend to buy commercial stuff (when I can afford it) so I know it will hold up to the miss-use I'll most likely put it through. I live in north (like north north) wisconsin. Stuff gets cold. I was so excited when this was coming out as I could use it is a two wheeler. As well as for my limited packout stuff (squirrel: I dream of having a packout container for all of my Milwaukee tools. That way you just grab the stapler packout, or the router packout, haven't figured out the table saw yet) but with so much of it being plastic, I worry how it will fare at -20. I don't know that it'll stop me from buying it anyway (might take a few paydays to get two hundred bucks). Thanks for the continued honest reviews.
Please do a long term review. I work for a solar company and figured this would be a great solution to avoid carrying around the huge bottom tool box. But I have to load and unload my work truck daily so if you could do the testing so I don’t have too, from one vince to another that’d be pretty nifty.
I agree…looked at this product in Home Depot. After realizing the amount of mastic involved, went to Harbor Freight, bought a 500lb Dolly and mounted a Packout plate on the base. Less than $100 total investment and will outlast this Milwaukee product hands down. Thanks Vince!
It would be nice if it was made of metal, then it may be worth that price point. It does have a lifetime warranty however. Totally agree, if it was cheaper, it’s a no brainer. I’m up here in Canada and it actually get cold here, sub zero temperatures are a concern.
Solution: I’m a industrial and commercial electrician. I bought a 4-wheel dolly from harbor freight, $100 bucks. Bought two of the milwakee mounting plates and bolted them to the back of the dolly. Replace the cheap dolly wheels and now I have a dolly and a hand cart. I can weight it down and haul what ever I want. Big stacks of packout, conduit, wire, panels all kinds of stuff. Even my helpers tools.
@VCG Construction. Thanks Vince for your honest review of that new Milwaukee PACKOUT hand truck. Knowing you're a Milwaukee fan and say not only what's good but what's bad keeps us in the know. Real bummer about all that plastic. Even your Dewalt ToughSystem L Cart carrier is pretty much all metal and is cheaper. Of course Dewalt does a bone headed thing and doesn't include the rear locking bracket on their 2.0 boxes so you can lock the boxes to the carrier. It's a step back for those with the L Cart carrier that works great with 1.0 boxes. Hope you and your family stay safe and well.
Vince: you beat me to the video reviewing this utlility cart. I bought yesterday after staring at it for 40 mins at HD. Then, i said let's just buy it and see. When got home first thing my father in law complained about is all the plastic and weight capacity for $199. I was thinking the same thing at HD before buying it. I dont understand why did milwaukee use so much plastic combined with metal. The top hanging part should have been metal like the bottom plate. And the entire frame is plastic maybe it's a good idead for cutting down on the weight but, not durable enough. Maybe they should have used Aluminum atleast. The latchs for the bottom plate are a joke almost broke them the first time not to mention it's very akward to fold it in. Not to mention mine was all scratched up since the guys at home depot dont care they were draging them on the floor. Also, some customers were doing the same. I PERSONALLY like my tools look in perfect condition. If i'm paying top dollar for brand new tool, it should be handled better. That's one thing i dont like about HD.
Glad you have the same opinion I thought the price was high. I'm actually getting to the point all milwaukee packout shit is to high Rigid I have also I hate the position on the handle for the lock But it does the same job a lot less cost Dont get me wrong I love Milwaukie tools But Cost is to much I'm even starting to like the rigid tools. Milwaukie is pricing as if their the only show in town. Used to be normal prices Now with the cost of batteries And to be honest Their not the best batteries anymore I used to run 2 to 3 times longer than anyone on sites With the older style batteries I still have the older tools but now my last battery is starting to die so now I'm stuck with my older tools no battery I have plenty of new ones but I just still like the old ones New batteries its this amp hr that amp hr. Milwaukee was just better from gate Now their just another tool depending on how much you pay for batteries. I'm seriously thinking as these tools get replaced it may not be my old time favorite To over priced for the same thing. I don't mind a little extra but Batteries wtf my truck battery don't cost as much as an m18 I'm about done with the cordless world with the battery cost the way they are. They just don't last like the old ones did And for the price I expect a whole lot more Anyway Keep the vids going good stuff
I wasn’t planning on getting this, there are so many aftermarket add ones to the system that make it manageable, but as soon as you put the crate on and I saw how wobbly it was, I would never consider this, especially at the price.
You made a lot of very reasonable points. I also don't see this cart holding up to construction employees. It's not theirs, they don't csre. "The company has plenty of money." How many times have you heard that?
Should been an all metal body. Specially during cold temps makes material brittle. My radius light fell about 18 inch from side of truck and cracked the whole top light still works but I think it was rated for 6 ft drop. I was a fan at first for this hand truck but after this not so much I’ll take. It for maybe 99
Thank you for this video. I was really considering this dolly until you mentioned other people loading it in the truck. In my industry, that is exactly what happens on the daily. Of course, I didn't realize it was all plastic until you mentioned. Extremely helpful!
I was really excited about this but the plastic put a damper on things. I am not even upset about the price just wish it was more metal and I would grab one today. This is why I wait for a VCG review before I purchase. Thanks for the insight
Biggest reason I'm looking at it is to have a tool cart with the drawer containers. If they make a tool cart like the previous one, but with drawers, I'm on board. This might actually be what I'm looking for, even though it seems shotty for hauling concrete around. I just want a tool cart, and I love the long storage and the ability to add the drawer containers instead of regular ones you can't access without taking all of them apart first.
Cheaply built but charge a high price, I think they designed those that way so it won't last long and they want the consumer to keep buying a replacement.
That's the thing, I refrained myself from buying that cart for $199, I won't be getting one for that price even though it's made (assembled) in the US with global materials, I'd like to see some rugged testing and user information to convince me to make an expensive purchase.
The only R&D that went into this was how do we make a metal handcart into a plastic one with more versatility, they made this outta plastic so it'll break sooner and by then you'll be hooked on the versatility it offers over a metal cart and buy another one!!
I am so happy you guys are calling Milwaukee out for this. Everywhere I have called Milwaukee out for this plastic dolly everyone seems to jump to their defense. I love Milwaukee, and I have rarely been dissapointed by their products, but this was a huge miss and feels like a cash grab to me...
Definitely think this should have been $129 max. And they could offer a "Pro" version with more metal construction for the $199 price point. With the Packout system, customization seemed to be one of the key selling points. Imagine if this cart was all metal and that metal panel in the back was attached by bolts and you could swap it out with different panels that do different things. Like instead of a panel to hang packout boxes there could be a curved panel so things like water heaters would sit centered more easily. Or another panel that has another horizontal surface on it so you can have multiple layers of things you can carry, etc... I think that would have been worth $199 and they could make money from different attachment pieces to customize the dolly...
Very good review and I really respect your opinion. I take care of my tools, I am the type of guy that actually regularly oils my adjustable wrenches and pliers and I looked at that with all the flimsy plastic and I thought I (who takes good care of his tools) would break that. My solution has been to buy a regular all aluminum hand truck, and I built a base that I can slip the tounge of the hand truck into, out of aluminum square stock with a packout mounting plate (the ones intended for a work van) attached to the top. Anyone with a welder and a half hour could easily make this and I actually think it is better because now I can dismount my packout stack in one piece and use my hand truck to then move other stuff. Also if you don't care about how the base looks just its function it could be made from 2x4s in about 5 minutes.
Thank you for your honesty. I love Milwaukee tools too, but this one, just by looking at it, I can also tell it’s not going to last more than a few years. Especially when comparing it to a steel dolly that can last generations.
The dewalt toughsystem rolling cart I think is a better choice even if you are not in the toughsystem boxes you probably could just rig the packout boxes to work with it, the packout cart looks like a cheap toy you would buy at Walmart
That’s how I feel about Milwaukee. They make some really nice stuff, but when I needed to start getting some tools, and didn’t have a ton of money, I decided to go with a Ryobi combo package. I know they’re not exactly the same, but I got a drill, impact, circ saw, recip, multi tool, a couple other tools (I can’t remember), 2 batteries, charger, and a bag for $300. I probably would have had to shell out like $1,200 for Milwaukee. Yes, they probably would have been better, but the Ryobi stuff has served me well. I just recently started getting into the M12 stuff though.
I live somewhere that gets close -40 every winter, I don't think I'd trust to use one of these on a cold winter day without taking extra care which would not always be on my mind early in the morning on a cold winter day. Was considering it but unless the price goes down I don't think I could commit to it as is.
I have a log house that’s in need of some repairs. I’m staining it now and noticed the whole outside needs caulked. There are 2 M12 caulk guns. What’s your preference between the two? 2444-21 and 2441-21.
I don't believe it would survive my work environment for a year. I'm an appliance installer for Lowe's. Wall ovens, dishwashers, cooktops, ranges and exc exc. In and out of a truck multiple times a day.
My solution is to not put large tools down on the bottom. I put things I will use every day plus things that can hide and that I might need. The big tools stay in the cross box and if I need them I just set them on top or in a crate. I personally dont want a large dolly taking up space either so not likely going to sped 200 bucks on something any dolly can do without plastic for less than a 100 bucks.
Sorry I am late i was getting a Christmas tree! I like my tough system! I would switch to pack out if they made a pack-out coffee maker! Thx for this review! Hit that like button!
Definitely want to see a follow up video about how its doing on the job site! Really want to pull the trigger on this but not sure if its worth the price tag. Thanks for the honest review 👍
I really do like the idea of the pack out system. BUT, the pricing is pretty ridiculous. Honestly I think they could half the prices of most of the items, and they would sell like hot cakes. I have seen more people go with the rigid pro box system or the Dewalt tough system over the pack out just on price alone.
I appreciate the honest review.. I really want this or the rolling toolbox..I desperately need transport, but I think I'm going to keep using my wheel barrow for now.. maybe I'll weld some brackets on a real dolly for long stuff.. who knows.. might even attach a Packout bracket... thanks for the ideas 👍
I'm a rescreener of pool enclosures. I see where your coming from. Theres no cover over the axle rod. Which I'm sure if it hits something itll get bent. Sitting out in Florida heat for a year or 2. I'll have to test it. Thanks for the Video.
Thanks for the honest review. I have been going back and forth deciding if it was going to be worth it. Now I know, hopefully they will come up with an all metal construction version and I am glad I didn't pull the trigger on the preorder.
I have the 800lb plastic hand truck. Been in use for 10 years in the sun most of the time. It doesn't move super heavy loads but it moves a/c's that can be up to 350lbs. I understand the questioning but I will trust it.
@@mdeamicis that or drop a couple hundred pounds of what ever you are trying to take up some stairs on your co worker because the metal handle popped off the plastic body.
Now that it's been a year how does it hold up? The price is now $229. Only thing I really like is you can put drawers at the bottom instead and not have to unstack everything. My gut says buy the older classic cart. Any thoughts or opinions?
Milwaukee: Let’s compete with those metal hand trucks with plastic and since we got a packout ecosystem, we can raise the prices. This is like the same stuff apple does in the tech market.
I ordered one, recently, but it arrived broken - it had probably been dropped during shipping. The bottom couple of inches of the plastic frame, on one side, had broken off completely. It was still functional, but wouldn't have lasted in heavy use. I sent it back. I emailed to customer service to a couple of handtruck manufacturers (e.g. Magliner) to ask if they had considered selling an PackOut locking plate option for the nose, but neither bothered to respond. I will look at building a platform with a PackOut locking plate that can be picked up with a standard handtruck.
I was gonna post this verbatim, i would even say $79 is the better price point. lets face it this is not gonna be a Hand truck for anything but packout those plastic back supports need support from the boxes to have any kind of strength.
Thank you! I have been looking at these packout solutions for a while and I can't get over how much plastic you get for the price. As awesome of an idea as they are I have serious concerns about there longevity. I would love to see how these hold up for you down the road.
I think you're right on the money, I'm not sure if it would last in and out of the truck year after year as most plastic things do not, but it would be a nice at home in the shop tool crate mover, having all the boxes stacked and being able to move them around the garage is helpful so yes it would be worth it in that aspect but if you were a plumber or electrician on the job daily, prolly not
I picked mine up the Wednesday before Thanksgiving. Same concerns as you. Base plate flexes on a full stack more then the roller box. Balance point on it is nice, but storage sucks. A bed divider in a truck nicely keeps the boxes in place, but the dolly has to be stored in the back seat or strapped closer to the cab (if you have a short bed, won’t fit nicely). Sucks even more to get it out if you have a tonneau cover. I had a lot of excitement for this and I’m let down as well. Plate should lock both ways, with one release.
The only time I figure the title is just another misleading one and its just a review about how good it is, ITS NOT!!! Wow I'm shocked how much plastic is on that!!! You really can't expect plastic to last. What they were thinking?!?! This review is super helpful as even if I was considering it, now I am definitely not. Thank you for the honest review! These are the most helpful. 😊😊😊😊 Happy Holidays Vince!
I haul tools in and out, but I also haul A TON of nails. How do I do that with this cart? They’ll fall right out the back! I love Milwaukee, but they missed the boat on this one. At $99 I can see some value, at $199 I just don’t. Thanks for the honesty, Vince!
150. It’s great for a maintenance man in one blding that don’t need to take it in and out of different environments. But still I won’t pay 200. Maybe 150? Especially seeing I already have thousand invested into pack out.
I have the original packout dolly and I don't abuse my tools. About a month after owning it I started to notice that the extension handle started to warp and wasn't able to slide in and out with ease anymore. I still however still use it and find it very useful, I always keep abs fittings in it so that im not carrying around heavy stuff with whatever I do need to attached to the dolly. I really hope Milwaukee sees this and makes a change to start building dollys with the same quality as they do their power tools and the tool boxes that attach to the packout system..
This is why I trust VCG guys. Call them Milwaukee shills/fanboys all you want, they still criticize them when they feel they need to.
exactly right...its been done a few times already 👍
An honest review will often favor Milwaukie, they make some good tools that have stood the test of time. Even though we've upgraded to battery tools the old 38 year old Milwaukie saw still gets broken out every house to rip 2x4's into 2x2's for the soffit. A few sets of brushes and a few cords over the years and that saw has cut a 2 by at least around the Earth once.
@@rogerflanigan6427 agreed! When he started talking shit about the plastic holding up over time I was like wait isn't this gna piss off Milwaukee lol. Love the honest reviews.
Milwaukee: Vince is suggesting get back to the drawing board...better quality, lower price. Thanks VCG!
Gonna be hard to lower the price when the local company here making them wants more money to make them because of how "hard" they are to make vs other hand trucks. Milwaukee and us customers have really high standards. It probably could come in lower price but then they would be even crappier.
100% agree $120 price point. MAXX!! Or build it to last. To get the $199.
For the price, it needs to be aluminum not plastic and the wheels rubber not hard plastic. Hard plastic wheels will mark-up and scratch finished floors that the customer will not be happy with.
Yes the hard plastic wheel is my biggest complaint.
The damn costume and their happiness
@@dwightsnoot7742 Lmfao, it took me a minute to figure out what you were talking about. I went back an fixed it.
I’m glad to see you give an honest review. Milwaukee should listen 👂
Needs to be no-flat tires sized like a standard handcart has. The company i work for had bought a appliance dolly from lowes and the only issue we have is the hard plastic wheels, tractor supply has one identical except it has plastic rims with rubber overmolded tires i think its cheaper too
thoughts, Just buy a metal dolly and bolt a Milwaukee mounting plate to it.
Good solution. If you get a Harper hand truck you could even say they came out of the same building as the plastic one.
or don't and have a functional dolly. Just ratchet straps to the rear rails like I do.
@@mdeamicis What do you mean, you ratchet strap your packout boxes to the a regular dolly?
Before all this packout crazyness I used a bunch of milkcrates and ratchet strapped them to my hand-truck. Then throw the tool duffel on top. The drill boxes like to slide around and would always slide off.
Great idea just don't buy the milwaukee handcart I bought one last year on pre black Friday and one wheel holders that swings out when you unfold, busted going across brick side walk, still works but does not gold out on its own. Didn't make a year, I'm glad I got half price.
that dolly is more like a "As seen on TV" product.....$29.95
With a few payments
But wait.....there’s more!!...You’ll receive not just one packout dolly, but act now and get a second for no additional cost.
You can't collapse the handle so you can't open the boxes without removing them like you can on the rolling tool toolbox. The boxes with drawers that are soon to be released would work well on this.
That being said, the rolling toolbox should have had drawers for the base unit so you could have access with other boxes on top.
Ya a rolling toolbox with drawers is a common ask I see. I don't like my current packout setup. I need to make rolling dollies for them that I can slide a hand truck into as needed. Preferably a system that can tackle wood stairs in a delicate fashion while holding 300lbs or so.
Before that though I need to make bays in my vehicle to hold my stacks in transport. Things have been getting shifty now that stacks are growing taller.
The Packout Cabinet is sick for the base. Has a garage door where you can pack your big tools at the base.
My take as a UPS driver that uses a dolly hundreds of times a day. It flexes like crazy just moving it around without a load. It also looks really wide and the two handed latches for the bottom would drive me bonkers. Think Milwaukee didnt think this one out.
Definitely could use a roll pin spring loaded hinge w/ pressure latch on that base to solve two problems. It would eliminate the two separate release latches to fold AND hold the flipped base tight to the handle while folded away as it was noted in the beginning of the video there is no latch or catch. Def not 2 C-note worthy.
Which one would you sugg3st?
Thank you Vince as always for your wonderful review of tools. I agree with you $200 for plastic is a little hefty, but the only way they(Milwaukee) will learn to structure the price correctly is by people not buying it. I own the Dewalt cart that you showed in one of your reviews and it is heavy duty and it works for me in my warehouse,but I don’t think I would spend $200 on this and I am a huge,huge,huge Milwaukee fan! So when they put it on clearance then and only then I would buy it. Why wouldn’t they use steel verses plastic? Obviously it’s a dollar thing with them, so the end-user has to be a dollar thing with them also! Who will win this war? We will see in time.
Hopefully the consumer.
Also like to take this time to thank you again for all the hard work that you do day in and day out! It’s not easy doing all the legwork, filming etc... on a daily basis and all for your viewers. I for one am extremely grateful for all you!!! You’re amazing my friend… Simply amazing! Bob
I appreciate the feedback Bob, I for one feel that the cross members on this unit need to be metal! Popping that crate in and out over time on the top crossmember will likely cause failure! Even if Milwaukee made those improvements to this cart, I don’t think the market would pay more than the 200. Thanks brother, and have an awesome day!
Yeah, I agree. Maybe some aluminum in that frame would be better than plastic.
@@zapadeeboom that was my first thought yesterday at home depot.
Can anyone say Milwaukee compressor
Hey Bob, I completely agree with you. Hopefully nobody buys this piece of junk. I cannot believe they would put plastic on this thing in a vulnerable area were it should obviously be metal. People like you, me, Vince, and pretty much everybody else on this channel would break this thing in 1 use. All the torquing and twisting you would cause bringing it up and down stairs loading it off and on the truck. Rolling it around rough terrain. The thing would twist apart and snap in half.That’s really disappointing as I am also a huge huge Milwaukee fan. I expected a lot more from our beloved Milwaukee.
If they made it really nice, then they wouldn't be able to release a Gen 2 version.
Yea, see you in a year or so, at VCG video talking about the gen 2 dolly.
@@eliadbu they should have made a metal frame with plastic anker points then they could upgrade to metal anker's on the 2nd gen. But 200$ for plastic hand truck? You can buy all metal higher weight capacity had trucks for 150 or all I would do is purchase a anker bracket and weld it to the bottom then I can stack my packout I would still come in lower then 200$
@@ericspeeder20226789should've could've would've, doesn't matter people expect the most durable solution for that cash. Could be great plastic but in the end plastic is plastic.
I know, right? Like they did with the Gen1 brad nailer. They get to sell the same item twice.
@@JWimpy TBH bad or subpar products damage your brand name. Companies like milwaukee would prefer to maintain good brand name and not rely on releasing product that are no good just to release new revision that fix them.
I was going to buy that, I have some new appliances coming and I need a new 2 wheeler. Broke mine last year. That is too much plastic thanks for the heads up VeryCoolGang
Thanks for the honest review; really glad I passed on this item. Milwaukee needs to ask themselves, “Does this need more metal?” And the answer is almost always yes. 🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻
I won't be buying it. I was expecting it to be like the toughsystem cart. The toughsystem setup is more versatile.
Never!
A better solution is probably to modify a traditional hand truck and affix Packout adapters (such as the wall mount or truck mounts). You'll forgo the collapsible and compact features, but it'll definitely be more durable (especially the wheels). I've also seen some cool long-tool storage adapters (I think they're 3rd party products) that can attach to the corner rails of the Packout boxes that can hold levels, squares, etc and I've even seen one for a ladder. Thanks for the honest review as always!
Ya I'm looking @ making rolling dollies with packout mounts. I'm not certain I like lots of the rail mods. They add to the dimensions of the boxes that are already battling for space on transport for me. I'm not ruling them out completley, but for now it's a no go. After I get the vehicle more sorted I may have room for some on the side of one stack.
Great vid Vince. Your correct, the whole cart needs to be metal. My electrical tool box weighs 60lbs alone. It would rip the clips right out of that thing. Especially rolling around muddy, rocky rough construction sites. And on that note, wider tires would be nice too. It seems they made a 'mall crawler' that's all flash and no beef.
One reason why I use Ridgid portable toolboxes. I beat the heck out of them and they're inexpensive enough to replace when I need to.
Thank you so much for showing us that Vince. I can’t believe they would put plastic on that thing. Especially in areas that are going to receive alot of punishment and stress. It seems like that thing would break after one use. Taking it on and off of the truck going up and downstairs. The torquing and twisting on the frame depending on how much weight you load it with, I would expect it to snap in half. LOL. I was really looking forward to buying it but I’m glad I saw your video first. You just saved me 2 hundo brother. That thing needs to be way more heavy duty. Maybe bigger tires as well. I don’t think I see those little wheels making it across some job sites specially after rain or snow. They’re just simply too small to skinny. Put beefier tires on it and an all metal frame while keeping the price the same, then and only then would I buy one. I’m very disappointed with this offering and expected a lot more from Milwaukee.
With all the aftermarket packout pieces out there, you could buy a regular hand truck and just make your own. It would definitely outlast the Milwaukee one
For sure. Save money too
Pretty much just added that same comment above, I could make a loads better version of this with an all metal £50 sack trolley and some aftermarket packout cleats! It’d be loads better too!
My bad, I posted something similar and I was late to the party. I agree with using our ingenuity and aftermarket accessories. Who sells aftermarket items for packouts, btw?
exactly , for $ 200 dollars i can build my own , have fun building it and it will be way more durable. Packout in general is great but too damn expensive. I only own a couple pieces that i rarely take off the truck.
I like packout. Mostly. I use them all the time. 90% of the pack outs I have came as part of tool deals. So I saved a lot of money that way
I’m sticking with the Dewalt tough system. The wall mount system is phenomenal. I can grab any box I want without unstacking half of my tools. Also, their cart is built like a tank. Nice review!
Facts
So Im an hvac installer and use this cart and love it. I bring in the pack outs I need with my dolly. Then use this dolly to pull their old furnace out and bring the new one in. Handles weight surprisingly well. And being plastic it’s so light weight.
Solid rubber tires + steel construction = winner and a must buy!
i agree but the bean counters at milwaukee will say that cart should be $400 then...it never ends...
@@kingofthecrease30 I hear ya but a more durable model that would last would be a nice option.
@@dennyk2294 agreed
@@dennyk2294
Milwaukee sells a regular steel hand truck on Amazon for $137. This shouldn't be more expensive.
All someone has to do a mod a steel frame hand truck with packout attahments.
I went with the rigid boxes several years ago and have been happy with them, but I do look at the variety of pack out accessories with a little bit of jealousy. That is until I see the prices. It's sort of like buying popcorn in a movie theater. Milwaukee puts a really high markup on packout things because you are a captive consumer. The $300 radio is a good example. That's crazy.
Great review and props to big red for offering this. I'm a Plumber and already invested into team yellow racking system including their hand truck version years ago and I use it for water heaters. I've since ditched all my team yellow tools and replaced them with a mix of team orange octane/team red, but keeping the team yellow racking system because I like how van, shop racks and cart use the forks which allows convenient access to individual boxes without the need to separate them. Plus I love how I can fold the forks flat to wall in my van for open space to carry large items.
thank you for sharing. Great video as always. Love your honest. I agree with you on the cart and its all plastic built. Living in the Chicago where once winter sets in and the temps are below 30 for 2 to 3 months, I believe like you it will not last. Also the extreme temp changes from outside to inside. Over the years I have cracked a few pack out boxes in the winter, when one fell out of the back of the truck and another hit the corner of a build when carrying it.
I would like more metal on the main structure of the cart.
I wondering if Milwaukee is getting a little greed on their pricing, because of their popularity with consumers.
All the best to you and your family.
To you and yours as well Wayne, thanks! 👍🏻
Damn I was stoked for this till he pointed out all that "plastic" come on milwaukee what were you thinking asking $200 for a "plastic" hand truck wtf?
Good points, Vince
They need to either lower the price, or make it with more metal.
This version should be $100 and a “pro” model, made of metal, for $199
Didn’t need this video to know this thing was junk, but thank you for bringing it to the publics attention. Great job guys as always!
I agree with you Vince.. Too much plastic!!!!!
We need a head to head comparison Milwaukee pack out cart Vs. Dewatlt tough system cart..also its probably $200 to cover the warranty on the plastic? 🤷♂️ Great video VCG 👊
Yep, $200 is a lot for plastic. Also, the fact that you have to hang a pack-out crate on the easily broken plastic hanger before you can stack things up top is disappointing as well.
90% percent of my tools is Milwaukee and a lots of packout cases, i’m in the construction business. Milwaukee should re design this cart, Dewalt has a good one! I was really glad when milwaukee had presented this one this year, but the closing feature for the bottom plate seems bad and too many plastic pieces is never good especially for a tool that’s meant to take some what of a beaten. Milwaukee also needs an individual big box like the old cart. I honestly hope that Milwaukee modifies the new cart, i’ll pay the extra bucks for a cart that’s heavy duty and that’s going to make my job easier!
When the motivation of innovation is to “design to fail” we get products liken this. Instead of with quality designs and functions to last a generation at least........
Idk, reinforced plastics have come along way. Milwaukee IMO has proved itself to be pricey yes, but durable and high quality with innovative design. I see your point though.
This hand cart might not be the best quality but the pack out system as a whole is superb quality. The plastic is incredibly durable and will last unless you really abuse your tools
I agree with the packout system. My statement was a broad generality and was more referring to the new dolly. But as was mentioned above, you cant release and sell version x,y,z if you make it bullet proof the first time.
That makes no sense given the lifetime warranty. Have you used one? I drop mine out of my trailer everyday fully loaded about 2 1/2 feet from the trailer to the ground and hasn’t had a single issue. I move appliances daily and the plastic frame allows you to slide it up stairs without destroying the treads. I kinda wish the bottom had a plastic bottom so it wouldn’t scratch sliding around inside the job.
Milwaukee already gives us a plastic cart on the PackOut system. I don't like the wheels inside the rail, outside the rail would give a wider stance and throw on the rugged terrain wheels from the PackOut. Move the tall tool holder to the outside rails so those tools aren't smacking us in the face. Lower the price after all that is fixed.
I am with you on placement of the tall tool holders, I thought Vince was going to knock himself in the face with it.
@@dougw9239 Yeh, Vince played it off well when the T-Square almost smacked him 😂
Vince +1 long term view.
I'm not a contractor. My tools are my tools. I still tend to buy commercial stuff (when I can afford it) so I know it will hold up to the miss-use I'll most likely put it through. I live in north (like north north) wisconsin. Stuff gets cold. I was so excited when this was coming out as I could use it is a two wheeler. As well as for my limited packout stuff (squirrel: I dream of having a packout container for all of my Milwaukee tools. That way you just grab the stapler packout, or the router packout, haven't figured out the table saw yet) but with so much of it being plastic, I worry how it will fare at -20.
I don't know that it'll stop me from buying it anyway (might take a few paydays to get two hundred bucks).
Thanks for the continued honest reviews.
WOW. The folks over at Mil tools arent too happy this morning! LOL
honest review....just because milwaukee sends stuff for review doesn't mean it has to be positive...vince tells it like it is
@@kingofthecrease30 Amen to that!
Please do a long term review. I work for a solar company and figured this would be a great solution to avoid carrying around the huge bottom tool box. But I have to load and unload my work truck daily so if you could do the testing so I don’t have too, from one vince to another that’d be pretty nifty.
Get a large dolly with a large bass player and use the wall plates that Milwaukee has attach them to the base plate and there you go Milwaukee dolly
You said it first....
Buy an aluminum plate from jake of all and see if he could make a quick attach to the cart you buy.
Only downside is will it fold up
Thats pretty important
Yep use the other brand Milwaukee that makes dollies and the name and colors will match.
I agree…looked at this product in Home Depot. After realizing the amount of mastic involved, went to Harbor Freight, bought a 500lb Dolly and mounted a Packout plate on the base. Less than $100 total investment and will outlast this Milwaukee product hands down. Thanks Vince!
It would be nice if it was made of metal, then it may be worth that price point. It does have a lifetime warranty however. Totally agree, if it was cheaper, it’s a no brainer. I’m up here in Canada and it actually get cold here, sub zero temperatures are a concern.
Solution: I’m a industrial and commercial electrician. I bought a 4-wheel dolly from harbor freight, $100 bucks. Bought two of the milwakee mounting plates and bolted them to the back of the dolly. Replace the cheap dolly wheels and now I have a dolly and a hand cart. I can weight it down and haul what ever I want. Big stacks of packout, conduit, wire, panels all kinds of stuff. Even my helpers tools.
They need to redesign that cart and the new pack out light charger. They would have done better bringing out an m18 packout coffee maker!
Now that sir is great freaking idea!!👍
@VCG Construction. Thanks Vince for your honest review of that new Milwaukee PACKOUT hand truck. Knowing you're a Milwaukee fan and say not only what's good but what's bad keeps us in the know. Real bummer about all that plastic. Even your Dewalt ToughSystem L Cart carrier is pretty much all metal and is cheaper. Of course Dewalt does a bone headed thing and doesn't include the rear locking bracket on their 2.0 boxes so you can lock the boxes to the carrier. It's a step back for those with the L Cart carrier that works great with 1.0 boxes.
Hope you and your family stay safe and well.
Vince: you beat me to the video reviewing this utlility cart. I bought yesterday after staring at it for 40 mins at HD. Then, i said let's just buy it and see. When got home first thing my father in law complained about is all the plastic and weight capacity for $199. I was thinking the same thing at HD before buying it. I dont understand why did milwaukee use so much plastic combined with metal. The top hanging part should have been metal like the bottom plate. And the entire frame is plastic maybe it's a good idead for cutting down on the weight but, not durable enough. Maybe they should have used Aluminum atleast. The latchs for the bottom plate are a joke almost broke them the first time not to mention it's very akward to fold it in. Not to mention mine was all scratched up since the guys at home depot dont care they were draging them on the floor. Also, some customers were doing the same. I PERSONALLY like my tools look in perfect condition. If i'm paying top dollar for brand new tool, it should be handled better. That's one thing i dont like about HD.
Sorry i forgot to thank you for the video. Thanks for the video. Great review one of the best. I'm returing the utility dolly tomorrow.
Glad you have the same opinion
I thought the price was high.
I'm actually getting to the point all milwaukee packout shit is to high
Rigid I have also
I hate the position on the handle for the lock
But it does the same job a lot less cost
Dont get me wrong
I love Milwaukie tools
But
Cost is to much
I'm even starting to like the rigid tools.
Milwaukie is pricing as if their the only show in town.
Used to be normal prices
Now with the cost of batteries
And to be honest
Their not the best batteries anymore
I used to run 2 to 3 times longer than anyone on sites
With the older style batteries
I still have the older tools but now my last battery is starting to die so now I'm stuck with my older tools no battery
I have plenty of new ones but I just still like the old ones
New batteries its this amp hr that amp hr.
Milwaukee was just better from gate
Now their just another tool depending on how much you pay for batteries.
I'm seriously thinking as these tools get replaced it may not be my old time favorite
To over priced for the same thing.
I don't mind a little extra but
Batteries wtf my truck battery don't cost as much as an m18
I'm about done with the cordless world with the battery cost the way they are.
They just don't last like the old ones did
And for the price I expect a whole lot more
Anyway
Keep the vids going good stuff
I wasn’t planning on getting this, there are so many aftermarket add ones to the system that make it manageable, but as soon as you put the crate on and I saw how wobbly it was, I would never consider this, especially at the price.
You made a lot of very reasonable points. I also don't see this cart holding up to construction employees. It's not theirs, they don't csre. "The company has plenty of money." How many times have you heard that?
Should been an all metal body. Specially during cold temps makes material brittle. My radius light fell about 18 inch from side of truck and cracked the whole top light still works but I think it was rated for 6 ft drop. I was a fan at first for this hand truck but after this not so much I’ll take. It for maybe 99
No this plastic doesn't become brittle with cold Temps like abs plastic does.
Thank you for this video. I was really considering this dolly until you mentioned other people loading it in the truck. In my industry, that is exactly what happens on the daily. Of course, I didn't realize it was all plastic until you mentioned. Extremely helpful!
I was really excited about this but the plastic put a damper on things. I am not even upset about the price just wish it was more metal and I would grab one today. This is why I wait for a VCG review before I purchase. Thanks for the insight
Highly agree!
Biggest reason I'm looking at it is to have a tool cart with the drawer containers. If they make a tool cart like the previous one, but with drawers, I'm on board. This might actually be what I'm looking for, even though it seems shotty for hauling concrete around. I just want a tool cart, and I love the long storage and the ability to add the drawer containers instead of regular ones you can't access without taking all of them apart first.
Cheaply built but charge a high price, I think they designed those that way so it won't last long and they want the consumer to keep buying a replacement.
its made in USA so that's how they justify the price...take $50 off for made in china
If its a piece of junj though and breaks right away, whos gonna wanna buy another one from milwaukee
That's the thing, I refrained myself from buying that cart for $199, I won't be getting one for that price even though it's made (assembled) in the US with global materials, I'd like to see some rugged testing and user information to convince me to make an expensive purchase.
The only R&D that went into this was how do we make a metal handcart into a plastic one with more versatility, they made this outta plastic so it'll break sooner and by then you'll be hooked on the versatility it offers over a metal cart and buy another one!!
I like the setup but I’m with you on the metal. Or lack there of. I have hesitated to buy one and that is why.
I am so happy you guys are calling Milwaukee out for this. Everywhere I have called Milwaukee out for this plastic dolly everyone seems to jump to their defense. I love Milwaukee, and I have rarely been dissapointed by their products, but this was a huge miss and feels like a cash grab to me...
Definitely think this should have been $129 max. And they could offer a "Pro" version with more metal construction for the $199 price point. With the Packout system, customization seemed to be one of the key selling points. Imagine if this cart was all metal and that metal panel in the back was attached by bolts and you could swap it out with different panels that do different things. Like instead of a panel to hang packout boxes there could be a curved panel so things like water heaters would sit centered more easily. Or another panel that has another horizontal surface on it so you can have multiple layers of things you can carry, etc... I think that would have been worth $199 and they could make money from different attachment pieces to customize the dolly...
Very good review and I really respect your opinion. I take care of my tools, I am the type of guy that actually regularly oils my adjustable wrenches and pliers and I looked at that with all the flimsy plastic and I thought I (who takes good care of his tools) would break that. My solution has been to buy a regular all aluminum hand truck, and I built a base that I can slip the tounge of the hand truck into, out of aluminum square stock with a packout mounting plate (the ones intended for a work van) attached to the top. Anyone with a welder and a half hour could easily make this and I actually think it is better because now I can dismount my packout stack in one piece and use my hand truck to then move other stuff. Also if you don't care about how the base looks just its function it could be made from 2x4s in about 5 minutes.
Junk... we already pay premium prices from milwaukee..
Thank you for your honesty. I love Milwaukee tools too, but this one, just by looking at it, I can also tell it’s not going to last more than a few years. Especially when comparing it to a steel dolly that can last generations.
The dewalt toughsystem rolling cart I think is a better choice even if you are not in the toughsystem boxes you probably could just rig the packout boxes to work with it, the packout cart looks like a cheap toy you would buy at Walmart
That’s how I feel about Milwaukee. They make some really nice stuff, but when I needed to start getting some tools, and didn’t have a ton of money, I decided to go with a Ryobi combo package. I know they’re not exactly the same, but I got a drill, impact, circ saw, recip, multi tool, a couple other tools (I can’t remember), 2 batteries, charger, and a bag for $300. I probably would have had to shell out like $1,200 for Milwaukee. Yes, they probably would have been better, but the Ryobi stuff has served me well. I just recently started getting into the M12 stuff though.
I'm a milwaukee fan boy, but yes I do appreciate an honest review. And yes I want more metal! 🤘
I’m not worried about the price, a much as the quality! Quality is strength, not fashion or cool factor.
The Dewalt one is almost all metal but leaves something to be desired as its super wide
I live somewhere that gets close -40 every winter, I don't think I'd trust to use one of these on a cold winter day without taking extra care which would not always be on my mind early in the morning on a cold winter day. Was considering it but unless the price goes down I don't think I could commit to it as is.
Good review Vince! helps me with decisions as I moved forward with my organization efforts.
I have a log house that’s in need of some repairs. I’m staining it now and noticed the whole outside needs caulked. There are 2 M12 caulk guns. What’s your preference between the two? 2444-21 and 2441-21.
Yo bro, make sure you wear this safety glasses. Also, do they ship these to Indonesia?
He's wearing the glasses because some guy is handling his tool... Never know what might happen.
5:44
5:44 Who does that?
Would it be off putting to move the two largest tools out of that box and put what u actually need in it.
I don't believe it would survive my work environment for a year. I'm an appliance installer for Lowe's. Wall ovens, dishwashers, cooktops, ranges and exc exc. In and out of a truck multiple times a day.
My solution is to not put large tools down on the bottom. I put things I will use every day plus things that can hide and that I might need. The big tools stay in the cross box and if I need them I just set them on top or in a crate. I personally dont want a large dolly taking up space either so not likely going to sped 200 bucks on something any dolly can do without plastic for less than a 100 bucks.
Sorry I am late i was getting a Christmas tree! I like my tough system! I would switch to pack out if they made a pack-out coffee maker! Thx for this review! Hit that like button!
Definitely want to see a follow up video about how its doing on the job site! Really want to pull the trigger on this but not sure if its worth the price tag. Thanks for the honest review 👍
I really do like the idea of the pack out system. BUT, the pricing is pretty ridiculous. Honestly I think they could half the prices of most of the items, and they would sell like hot cakes. I have seen more people go with the rigid pro box system or the Dewalt tough system over the pack out just on price alone.
DeWalt's two-wheel cart is also built wayyy tougher than Milwaukee's.
Thank you. I honestly appreciate the honesty. We need more metal!!!!
You're better off buying a reliable aluminum COSCO, Safco, or Magliner hand truck for less.
I appreciate the honest review.. I really want this or the rolling toolbox..I desperately need transport, but I think I'm going to keep using my wheel barrow for now.. maybe I'll weld some brackets on a real dolly for long stuff.. who knows.. might even attach a Packout bracket...
thanks for the ideas 👍
the real question is...can Vince wheel that cart around with 400 lbs on it 🤔 😂😂
I'm a rescreener of pool enclosures. I see where your coming from. Theres no cover over the axle rod. Which I'm sure if it hits something itll get bent. Sitting out in Florida heat for a year or 2. I'll have to test it. Thanks for the Video.
1000% ACCURATE.
Thanks for the honest review. I have been going back and forth deciding if it was going to be worth it. Now I know, hopefully they will come up with an all metal construction version and I am glad I didn't pull the trigger on the preorder.
Happy Sunday VCG
yo stephen lee...what's good bro ?
I have the 800lb plastic hand truck. Been in use for 10 years in the sun most of the time. It doesn't move super heavy loads but it moves a/c's that can be up to 350lbs. I understand the questioning but I will trust it.
LEDs cost nothing now. I can get a 3000 lumen LED COB for $5 on eBay shipped.
Seriously, I was thinking the same thing. That light box is a rip off. Their light stand is also too expensive
For the lights it about the housing more than the lumens
I bought 100's of LED lights of all kind and much higher lumens than most lights sold at big stores. All from ebay.
@@petergingerelli1189 true good point
They didn't know that... but now they do. Will you buy the next product please?
Hey Vince!!!!! Have a Wonderful Christmas
Thanks so much for the honest opinion I almost pulled the trigger. Maybe I will get a second rolling box instead!
Im sure that 200$ has injury compensation in mind.
You mean for whenever you takes a level to the face?
@@mdeamicis that or drop a couple hundred pounds of what ever you are trying to take up some stairs on your co worker because the metal handle popped off the plastic body.
Now that it's been a year how does it hold up? The price is now $229. Only thing I really like is you can put drawers at the bottom instead and not have to unstack everything. My gut says buy the older classic cart. Any thoughts or opinions?
Milwaukee: Let’s compete with those metal hand trucks with plastic and since we got a packout ecosystem, we can raise the prices.
This is like the same stuff apple does in the tech market.
I ordered one, recently, but it arrived broken - it had probably been dropped during shipping. The bottom couple of inches of the plastic frame, on one side, had broken off completely. It was still functional, but wouldn't have lasted in heavy use. I sent it back. I emailed to customer service to a couple of handtruck manufacturers (e.g. Magliner) to ask if they had considered selling an PackOut locking plate option for the nose, but neither bothered to respond. I will look at building a platform with a PackOut locking plate that can be picked up with a standard handtruck.
I agree, I've been waiting for a foldable dolly for the packout and feel so let down by this I wont even purchase this.
Do they have something like a mobile/portable tool box with drawers to have some tools organized, like for mechanics to jave sockets,wrenches etc.?
Tell us the Truth Vince!
I'd jump for $99 but not $199
I was gonna post this verbatim, i would even say $79 is the better price point. lets face it this is not gonna be a Hand truck for anything but packout those plastic back supports need support from the boxes to have any kind of strength.
Thank you Vince, at that price point the dolly should be all steel or heavy duty aluminum with solid rubber wheels and a little taller
Thank you! I have been looking at these packout solutions for a while and I can't get over how much plastic you get for the price. As awesome of an idea as they are I have serious concerns about there longevity. I would love to see how these hold up for you down the road.
I think you're right on the money, I'm not sure if it would last in and out of the truck year after year as most plastic things do not, but it would be a nice at home in the shop tool crate mover, having all the boxes stacked and being able to move them around the garage is helpful so yes it would be worth it in that aspect but if you were a plumber or electrician on the job daily, prolly not
I picked mine up the Wednesday before Thanksgiving. Same concerns as you. Base plate flexes on a full stack more then the roller box. Balance point on it is nice, but storage sucks. A bed divider in a truck nicely keeps the boxes in place, but the dolly has to be stored in the back seat or strapped closer to the cab (if you have a short bed, won’t fit nicely). Sucks even more to get it out if you have a tonneau cover. I had a lot of excitement for this and I’m let down as well. Plate should lock both ways, with one release.
The only time I figure the title is just another misleading one and its just a review about how good it is, ITS NOT!!! Wow I'm shocked how much plastic is on that!!! You really can't expect plastic to last. What they were thinking?!?!
This review is super helpful as even if I was considering it, now I am definitely not.
Thank you for the honest review!
These are the most helpful. 😊😊😊😊
Happy Holidays Vince!
Plastic weighs a lot less than steel. Portability-driven decision?
I haul tools in and out, but I also haul A TON of nails. How do I do that with this cart? They’ll fall right out the back! I love Milwaukee, but they missed the boat on this one. At $99 I can see some value, at $199 I just don’t. Thanks for the honesty, Vince!
150. It’s great for a maintenance man in one blding that don’t need to take it in and out of different environments. But still I won’t pay 200. Maybe 150? Especially seeing I already have thousand invested into pack out.
I have the original packout dolly and I don't abuse my tools. About a month after owning it I started to notice that the extension handle started to warp and wasn't able to slide in and out with ease anymore. I still however still use it and find it very useful, I always keep abs fittings in it so that im not carrying around heavy stuff with whatever I do need to attached to the dolly. I really hope Milwaukee sees this and makes a change to start building dollys with the same quality as they do their power tools and the tool boxes that attach to the packout system..