New Milwaukee Tools PACKOUT 2-Wheel Cart Dolly IS HIGHLY DISAPPOINTING!
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- New Milwaukee Tools PACKOUT 2-Wheel Cart Dolly IS HIGHLY DISAPPOINTING! In this video we show the #verycoolgang the new Milwaukee Tools PACKOUT 2-wheel cart/dolly (48-22-8415) that we were super excited to get our hands on but unfortunately is highly disappointing and a total let down. Make sure to watch through the whole video until the end to see why we are highly disappointed in this new PACKOUT 2-wheeled cart from Milwaukee tools. Let us know your thoughts on this new PACKOUT 2-wheel cart dolly from Milwaukee tools in the comments section below!
For the price, it needs to be aluminum not plastic and the wheels rubber not hard plastic. Hard plastic wheels will mark-up and scratch finished floors that the customer will not be happy with.
Yes the hard plastic wheel is my biggest complaint.
The damn costume and their happiness
@@dwightsnoot7742 Lmfao, it took me a minute to figure out what you were talking about. I went back an fixed it.
I’m glad to see you give an honest review. Milwaukee should listen 👂
Needs to be no-flat tires sized like a standard handcart has. The company i work for had bought a appliance dolly from lowes and the only issue we have is the hard plastic wheels, tractor supply has one identical except it has plastic rims with rubber overmolded tires i think its cheaper too
This is why I trust VCG guys. Call them Milwaukee shills/fanboys all you want, they still criticize them when they feel they need to.
exactly right...its been done a few times already 👍
An honest review will often favor Milwaukie, they make some good tools that have stood the test of time. Even though we've upgraded to battery tools the old 38 year old Milwaukie saw still gets broken out every house to rip 2x4's into 2x2's for the soffit. A few sets of brushes and a few cords over the years and that saw has cut a 2 by at least around the Earth once.
@@rogerflanigan6427 agreed! When he started talking shit about the plastic holding up over time I was like wait isn't this gna piss off Milwaukee lol. Love the honest reviews.
thoughts, Just buy a metal dolly and bolt a Milwaukee mounting plate to it.
Good solution. If you get a Harper hand truck you could even say they came out of the same building as the plastic one.
or don't and have a functional dolly. Just ratchet straps to the rear rails like I do.
@@mdeamicis What do you mean, you ratchet strap your packout boxes to the a regular dolly?
Before all this packout crazyness I used a bunch of milkcrates and ratchet strapped them to my hand-truck. Then throw the tool duffel on top. The drill boxes like to slide around and would always slide off.
Great idea just don't buy the milwaukee handcart I bought one last year on pre black Friday and one wheel holders that swings out when you unfold, busted going across brick side walk, still works but does not gold out on its own. Didn't make a year, I'm glad I got half price.
that dolly is more like a "As seen on TV" product.....$29.95
With a few payments
But wait.....there’s more!!...You’ll receive not just one packout dolly, but act now and get a second for no additional cost.
My take as a UPS driver that uses a dolly hundreds of times a day. It flexes like crazy just moving it around without a load. It also looks really wide and the two handed latches for the bottom would drive me bonkers. Think Milwaukee didnt think this one out.
Definitely could use a roll pin spring loaded hinge w/ pressure latch on that base to solve two problems. It would eliminate the two separate release latches to fold AND hold the flipped base tight to the handle while folded away as it was noted in the beginning of the video there is no latch or catch. Def not 2 C-note worthy.
Which one would you sugg3st?
Damn I was stoked for this till he pointed out all that "plastic" come on milwaukee what were you thinking asking $200 for a "plastic" hand truck wtf?
Please do a long term review. I work for a solar company and figured this would be a great solution to avoid carrying around the huge bottom tool box. But I have to load and unload my work truck daily so if you could do the testing so I don’t have too, from one vince to another that’d be pretty nifty.
I was going to buy that, I have some new appliances coming and I need a new 2 wheeler. Broke mine last year. That is too much plastic thanks for the heads up VeryCoolGang
Good points, Vince
They need to either lower the price, or make it with more metal.
This version should be $100 and a “pro” model, made of metal, for $199
I went with the rigid boxes several years ago and have been happy with them, but I do look at the variety of pack out accessories with a little bit of jealousy. That is until I see the prices. It's sort of like buying popcorn in a movie theater. Milwaukee puts a really high markup on packout things because you are a captive consumer. The $300 radio is a good example. That's crazy.
Should been an all metal body. Specially during cold temps makes material brittle. My radius light fell about 18 inch from side of truck and cracked the whole top light still works but I think it was rated for 6 ft drop. I was a fan at first for this hand truck but after this not so much I’ll take. It for maybe 99
No this plastic doesn't become brittle with cold Temps like abs plastic does.
I have the original packout dolly and I don't abuse my tools. About a month after owning it I started to notice that the extension handle started to warp and wasn't able to slide in and out with ease anymore. I still however still use it and find it very useful, I always keep abs fittings in it so that im not carrying around heavy stuff with whatever I do need to attached to the dolly. I really hope Milwaukee sees this and makes a change to start building dollys with the same quality as they do their power tools and the tool boxes that attach to the packout system..
I wasn’t planning on getting this, there are so many aftermarket add ones to the system that make it manageable, but as soon as you put the crate on and I saw how wobbly it was, I would never consider this, especially at the price.
Back in the early 2000s I was working with my father and we picked up the contract Coinmach Industries they used to be one of the largest washer and dryer companies. They used to be up and down the East Coast in the basement apartment building Coinmach and Hercules where the 2 biggest companies on the East Coast. They passed a law that washing machine had to be a foot off the ground so are used to remove everything mix 80lb bags of Ready-Mix concrete anywhere from around 100 to 200 bags turn everything was by hand truck because you had to go down the stairs and move over a long distance. But even with our hand tools this will be nice I like the wheels being on the inside not to hit door frames😎👍👊🇺🇸
Definitely think this should have been $129 max. And they could offer a "Pro" version with more metal construction for the $199 price point. With the Packout system, customization seemed to be one of the key selling points. Imagine if this cart was all metal and that metal panel in the back was attached by bolts and you could swap it out with different panels that do different things. Like instead of a panel to hang packout boxes there could be a curved panel so things like water heaters would sit centered more easily. Or another panel that has another horizontal surface on it so you can have multiple layers of things you can carry, etc... I think that would have been worth $199 and they could make money from different attachment pieces to customize the dolly...
We need a head to head comparison Milwaukee pack out cart Vs. Dewatlt tough system cart..also its probably $200 to cover the warranty on the plastic? 🤷♂️ Great video VCG 👊
Cheaply built but charge a high price, I think they designed those that way so it won't last long and they want the consumer to keep buying a replacement.
its made in USA so that's how they justify the price...take $50 off for made in china
If its a piece of junj though and breaks right away, whos gonna wanna buy another one from milwaukee
That's the thing, I refrained myself from buying that cart for $199, I won't be getting one for that price even though it's made (assembled) in the US with global materials, I'd like to see some rugged testing and user information to convince me to make an expensive purchase.
Very good review and I really respect your opinion. I take care of my tools, I am the type of guy that actually regularly oils my adjustable wrenches and pliers and I looked at that with all the flimsy plastic and I thought I (who takes good care of his tools) would break that. My solution has been to buy a regular all aluminum hand truck, and I built a base that I can slip the tounge of the hand truck into, out of aluminum square stock with a packout mounting plate (the ones intended for a work van) attached to the top. Anyone with a welder and a half hour could easily make this and I actually think it is better because now I can dismount my packout stack in one piece and use my hand truck to then move other stuff. Also if you don't care about how the base looks just its function it could be made from 2x4s in about 5 minutes.
WOW. The folks over at Mil tools arent too happy this morning! LOL
honest review....just because milwaukee sends stuff for review doesn't mean it has to be positive...vince tells it like it is
@@kingofthecrease30 Amen to that!
I live somewhere that gets close -40 every winter, I don't think I'd trust to use one of these on a cold winter day without taking extra care which would not always be on my mind early in the morning on a cold winter day. Was considering it but unless the price goes down I don't think I could commit to it as is.
I ordered one, recently, but it arrived broken - it had probably been dropped during shipping. The bottom couple of inches of the plastic frame, on one side, had broken off completely. It was still functional, but wouldn't have lasted in heavy use. I sent it back. I emailed to customer service to a couple of handtruck manufacturers (e.g. Magliner) to ask if they had considered selling an PackOut locking plate option for the nose, but neither bothered to respond. I will look at building a platform with a PackOut locking plate that can be picked up with a standard handtruck.
Definitely want to see a follow up video about how its doing on the job site! Really want to pull the trigger on this but not sure if its worth the price tag. Thanks for the honest review 👍
The only R&D that went into this was how do we make a metal handcart into a plastic one with more versatility, they made this outta plastic so it'll break sooner and by then you'll be hooked on the versatility it offers over a metal cart and buy another one!!
I just bought this before watching this video and being frustrated with trying to make my own.
It's disappointing the bottom doesn't lock or at least stay up when folded. It's a pain to unlock it. You have to reach both latches and bend it forward just like the video and if you don't hold it then it falls back down.
Also the wheels are too narrow. I've seen them buy a wider axle and move the wheels to the outside, which I'll probably do.
That being said, I've used it once on dirt/gravel/cement. It was nice to have all of my tools right with me. You realize that while it's a little more work to haul all of your tools to where you are working, as soon as you don't have to make 2-3 trips back to the vehicle for tools it's worth it.
I am dissappointed in the plastic as well and also in the spacing of the hanging basket. If you have a drawer unit on bottom and one thin organizer with the crate in the top slots you can open the organizer, but if you added another organizer then the crate would be in the way and you'd have to take it off to even open it. Milwaukee should have put the hanger up about another 4 inches at least.
I built my own pack out dolly clip on plate bottom. Battery holders in the back
. I fabricated the clip on plate welded it on and foldable still customizing for my daily needs
I don't believe it would survive my work environment for a year. I'm an appliance installer for Lowe's. Wall ovens, dishwashers, cooktops, ranges and exc exc. In and out of a truck multiple times a day.
I am so happy you guys are calling Milwaukee out for this. Everywhere I have called Milwaukee out for this plastic dolly everyone seems to jump to their defense. I love Milwaukee, and I have rarely been dissapointed by their products, but this was a huge miss and feels like a cash grab to me...
Thanks so much for the honest opinion I almost pulled the trigger. Maybe I will get a second rolling box instead!
Whats wrong with the Magliner? They are aluminum, versatile and the designs are limitless.
I like the setup but I’m with you on the metal. Or lack there of. I have hesitated to buy one and that is why.
I was thinking of maybe moving a couple appliances with this, sounds like a bad idea. I wish I could see it in person. HD doesn’t stock it locally to me. Hopefully you post an update after another year of use.
That hand truck was designed by someone who organizes closets or something, not by someone who actually uses things like that. It should be all metal except for the tires, which should be rubber. Not spending my money on that thing.
Inwas in the delivery business for many years. I tried the Milwaukee hand carts that were plastic like the packout cart. The little tabs that hold the cross rails between the main beams break within 6 months under hard use. The cart flexing and twisting snaps them off.
Do they have something like a mobile/portable tool box with drawers to have some tools organized, like for mechanics to jave sockets,wrenches etc.?
Would have rather seen a taller box similar to the standard base rolling box size without wheels for the four wheel dolly and preferably without all the angled surfaces on the inside. Because it would be nice to have all my primary power tools in one box. Every day is at least 2 medium boxes, tote and a screw box. Both boxes look like a jigsaw puzzle on the inside. Ditch the metal posts on the corner, I know some people are mounting things to them but other than that I really don’t understand why they are there I’ve never used them as a handle or whatever they are there for it’s waisted space I’d rather have on the inside.
I bought the regular big box dolly but plan on buying a convertible aluminum dolly getting the wall mount thingy and fastening to the dolly that can handle 800 pounds
Way too much plastic for cold weather. If you may be using it as a dolly for heavy/awkward loads what about an optional/removable cross member with a secured, ratcheting spooled strap to secure the load?
Good review Vince! helps me with decisions as I moved forward with my organization efforts.
Would love to see a compare episode dewalt cart dolly vs Milwaukee cart dolly.
I agree, Vince, that's a lot of plastic which will probably fail at some point... sooner than later. Yes, please do a 1 month follow-up on it's durability. Thanks.
I freelance in television and I'm looking at this as an option to haul video equipment on location. looking to see if there is a mod to hang a tripod off of it. Great review
Great idea, poor execution in my opinion. The plastic frame is disappointing to me. How long will it last going up and down stairs with heavy tools on it? The impact of each step will stress the frame and wheels when loaded. Vince give us an update in a month, I’m curious how it holds up.
Milwaukee Packout should come out with something similar to the Dewalt DWST-38000 Tough Chest mobile storage
If the warranty was more comprehensive maybe. If you are a Power DIYer maybe. If your livelihood depends on the cart, I'd have to see how it holds up after 3 years of normal wear and tear at my job site.
Seems a lot less flexible and a lot more cheaply made than the tough system unit already on the market. Disappointing when you are second to market with a solution and you cannot at least match what is already out there.
I've actually moved an oil tank on top of the pack out rolling box in a pinch
I love Milwaukee’s power tools, I have a collecting of them. But I do not believe I will be getting this dolly. Very unreasonably expensive and it seems flimsy. I will stick with getting another rolling large box. let’s see what Milwaukee tools does to fix this issue!
Im sure that 200$ has injury compensation in mind.
You mean for whenever you takes a level to the face?
@@mdeamicis that or drop a couple hundred pounds of what ever you are trying to take up some stairs on your co worker because the metal handle popped off the plastic body.
I would prefer the Dewalt system Dollie over all these attempts by Millwaukee because of obvious reasons or make your own diy project guys out their ...seriously the more you know the more power .... god bless.. happy hollidays for all
Any mods like the rear mount for the long storage on the base pack out?
I feel like guys are knocking this before even giving it a chance. I absolutely love the cart and the plastic is ideal when using around finish work a big reason I don’t use a dolly in my jobs is they scratch or dent stuff way to easy. I’ve been using the Milwaukee cart a while and love it the plastic skids will go down stairs without scratching the treads and it holds as much weight as I can throw at it I load all my tools on it a compact tool box, cooler, packout radio, a large tool box and the m12 vacuum and it hasn’t given me one problem yet. It took me a while to talk myself into spending the money due to all the criticism but now that I got it so glad I did. Similar situation with packout radio lots of complaints online but it has been great for me and sounds awesome so much Bass and it is rugged. The cart is so much better then rolling box when I get all my stuff in the job site I use the dolly for appliances and the extra large base handles them so much better then a smaller one would plus the wheels are set inside the frame so it fits through hallways and doors. Seriously I think of anyone is going back and forth on this just go for it won’t be disappointed plus it has a lifetime warranty.
I have the exact same issue.. I'm a medical device contractor and work throughout hospital systems on medical devices.. my Milwaukee backpack is my best friend along with my Packout boxes but I hate that I have to haul the biggest tools in my truck if I want to use the dolly function. Something like this but smaller and more durable would be nice.. maybe an integrated heated working seat for $200.00 though lol! Thanks VCG!
Mine back Raul cracked after 1 month of use....just going up the stairs. It would be good, if made of metal
I believe the idea was to keep the weight down. But they need to adjust the price point.
Looking forward to the long term review. I've been checking the system out and I'm hoping they come out with an improved version or a version that allows you to replace parts that crack 🤷♂️
Thanks, was considering buying this. It is a good solution, but it does have points of failure that make me think twice.
Thanks man…. I was debating getting one of these carts, but now there is no way.. id shatter that plastic.
Cheers
I had my PACKOUT vac with a 12.0 inside stacked on top of the milk crate hanging like you have it in the video, had all kinds of stuff inside milk crate including a sawzall hanging off the side of milk crate and rolled it like that over a km with no issue, obviously small sample size but I was impressed
Happy Sunday VCG
yo stephen lee...what's good bro ?
I would like to see more metal and pneumatic tires to make it easier for pulling the weight over rocks or gravel or anything other than a hard smooth surface. Sure it has large wheels but they are hard and don’t give any cushion to keep it from beating itself apart
Glad your pointing out the plastic and the price. I wont buy this because 95 percent is plastic. You can go to harbor freight buy a dolly for 50 bucks that's made of steel or your preferred place or a dolly of your choice. Make your own tool tray in the back to carry long items. Then buy the Milwaukee pack out plate for the bottom so you can click your pack out stuff. You may have to customize the the plate to fit but you will have a more durable platform.
I hope Ridgid comes out with something like that. We sometimes just need 4-5 of the small ones and not the big box.
Some plastics can be quite durable but this looks cheap and seasonal weather changes may significantly reduce the life of the plastic as well.
Hi mate, you're spot on! The moment you touched it it was wobbling. Personally I use all Milwaukee power tools and I was really excited to get this but having seen it...I'm more likely to pay a company 200 quid and have one made for me out of metal and CNC'ed brackets. Unbelievably disappointed in this product.
Thanks for the review
See this is why I love this chanel, and Vince, he's an absolute fan of the brand as am I but he is willing to criticise where it's needed and isn't so much of a fan that he overlooks their errors.
I agree with you. It needs to be more sturdy.
100% agree 👍 if I'm paying $200.00 I want my moneys 💰 worth. Its nice but maybe not thought out all the way. Price needs to change or the product plain and simple.
Thanks for the review, looks like my old hand truck that can run 800lbs still wins.
Maybe someone said this before, but they must have thought their system was too heavy already, so making an all-metal cart would make it even heavier. I'm assuming the plastic construction makes it lighter, but it doesn't use that as a selling point.
VCG always keeping it Real! Just another reason on a long list showing why VCG is Not naughty but NIIICE👍👍👍
I agree that it could have been made a little better/more sturdy. However, it is supposed to be made out of the same grade/type of plastic that the regular Packout is, and we all know how durable it is.
Yes, it is a little pricey.
Milwaukee needs a steel option & also a side upper wheel to help wheel it into and out the car
Millwaukee makes great tools but sometimes I think get exaggerated with their prices. Like their m12 line of tools. M12 line is almost as pricey as M18 line but with less power.
Thank you for the review. Was really eyeballing this for the same reasons as you but couldnt swallow the plastic for $200. My buddy picked up the regular packout cart on black Friday so maybe these will drop a little or include more metal as time goes on
I can't believe it's been 3 years and we don't have a gen2 packout dolly! Big fail. To my eyes it's really one of the main things holding packout from being hands down the best modular storage system.
I agree with you bro too much plastic. Even though I really need something like this because it will carry the items in the back of it that don’t fit on the pack out. Like my long pole scraper, in the different polls and elongated items that I have that I have to carry. I almost wanna buy it just because of that. But $200 is too much.
What would it cost to bolt a packout mounting plate widget onto an all steel hand truck?
I've been waiting for them to redesign that bottom rolly toolbox by putting better wheels and axles on it. There are TONS of product reviews that suggest that it is NOT jobsite durable.
I love the pipe bender holder on it. Would love to see dewalt come out with a tough system 2.0 dolly with pipe bender storage.
Couldn’t you get a regular two wheel truck and put one of the the Milwaukee packout mounting plates on the bottom? Problem solved.
Yea, frame all metal, only the orange back plates plastic would have been a better design IMO
My concern, if used as a handcart (water heater, air handler) and the packout track is damaged, it's junk
Would be great to see an update on this two years later
As you described it, I’m not running out to buy this anytime soon.
After nine months how has this tool held up? Do you think it will hold up moving water heaters up and down stairs?
The price vs value is how i feel about every piece of the packout system, at the end of the day, Milwaukee thinks a plastic tote is worth as much as a brushless sawzall or brushless hammer drill, or brushless shop vac...what about a plastic box is worth as much as a brushless power tool? Those little packout organizers are 40 bucks! It's just a plastic box with smaller plastic boxes in it. It comes down to the batteries and power tools being made in Taiwan and the plastic totes being made in America distort the reality of an items price vs value.
I agree with you Vince . It should have been marketed as a light duty dolly .
I was going to buy it but the price and plastic kept me from buying it. A good steel hard dolly is 60 bucks i just can't justify spending 200 bucks
I need this so bad but the price point and quality don't match the end product...the need for a way of transporting packout without the bottom crate with wheels is a great idea and one I really want forand struggle with everyday...but this isn't the answer unfortunately...they need to beef this up or lower the price or come up with a different solution...good lookin out Vince my man and big ups to the VCG
My solution was to modify the global industries utility cart by cutting the top brim to accept the packout. Bonus: they make hooks for the sides to carry longer things like ATR. levels, pipe... Milwaukee needs a packout compatible utility cart damn it. Also need to make a double wide packout.
Just get yourself a little red wagon with the all-terrain tires could be balling on a budget
I thought you were about to lose an eye with that big auger bit there. Plastic? Seriously? The idea is great, the execution is not. The wheel axle also looks very weak. I am glad you are willing to criticize as needed, and here it is needed. Milwaukee did such a great job with the packout system, and then they got cheap on the one important item, how to get them around in a solid fashion. Hopefully a new version will be out soon.
Thats why i still watch this guy. Thank you Vince for being honest. You the Best. Happy Holidays
I've watched other packout vids where someone has the crate on top and a drawer system on the bottom and I've seen the amount of flex in the open gap between those two and knew I wouldn't want this. They need to scrap this idea and do a cart with drawers instead of a box. I'm not loading some dolly into my vehicle that has no retractable handle since it wouldn't fit anyways.
Milwaukee is just marking up prices and leaving room for their next black friday deal when these go on sale for $125 to make it look like they are doing us a favor, when in fact this is where the price should have started. Understandable business model but never pay full price, and understand sale prices are just the "start"
Hey Vince, love your videos and recently subscribed. Now that it’s been a year, I’d like to know how has this cart been holding up so far? Thanks I’m advance!
Its been 3 years. Hows it holding up?
Thank you for honest review!!! I love how unbiased you are!
So after two years does it still work or did it fall apart as you thought
As a guy in his 70s, I would use this at home or to carry tools to my kids place or my ex's to fix things. But I don't see this holding up long at all in the real working world. I have a combined 45 years experience in military and factory work and that thing wouldn't last 2 weeks in real conditions. Make it out of steel.
The reason that the representative of Millwaulkee explained about the fact that the company can not do a full metal base pullie system is becasue of patented on the part of Dewalt company with all respects that is what he said,. but I beg a difference because the dollie structure is so much different but I digress let me know what you think...