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I play double bass and there are a lot of parts where the violins are playing while we watch and have nothing to do. my mate is constantly talking through this and one in every 10 times he gets in trouble
also, her friend is holding the clarinet with the wrong hand at the top (which makes it psychically impossible to play a bunch of notes) and I am fuming
Personally I disagree. Veronica was to say the least a horrific, stuck up, bitch. Sierra’s life was miserable from girls like her and others. It’s bullshit. I’m so over bullies getting away w being a victim. Sierra was bullied and it fucked with her mentally, emotionally, and physically. So she wasn’t ok. She thought if she started acting like those privileged pos girls like Veronica that life would be easier. But it wasn’t, and she was lost and stuck. I don’t think Sierra is a bad person. I think she had enough of people’s bullshit
Dumplin is a much sweeter and better movie with a plus size girl falling in love with a skinny boy. The romance is not the main part of the story, it follows her becoming a better and more confident person, and she doesn’t date him until she figures herself out. He loves her and she doesn’t have to trick him, lose weight or completely change her personality for him to do it. It’s still kind of cheesy and the movie is not as a good as the book but it’s awesome!
The most popular girl in my high school class was less attractive than this, but she was abso-fuckin-lutely hilarious, and had a penchant for writing Disney parody songs. Like, literally, she won prom queen by a landslide. Personality actually does matter more than looks, even in high school.
The more popular girls and boys in my school were also that way because they were funny, or nice, or both The bitchy students never won any votes because no one liked them. Even as a teen those movies that show the popular students and being mean never made any sense to me. Who wants to hang around a bratt?
She’s an actual psychopath, she thinks that people owe her things just because she doesn’t feel good about herself. She sexually assaulted Jamie but because of the disregard for men being sexually assaulted, it doesn’t seem that he knows that kiss was assault
evilangel7769 it is assault. He was wanting a kiss but from Veronica instead of Sierra. He did not consent to getting kissed by Sierra as he thought Veronica was the one he was kissing. It definitely counts. www.rochester.edu/sexualmisconduct/whatissexualassault.html
I’m curious about how the main actress is doing mentally since she’s been purposely cast as “the ugly girl” for multiple things now. This show, Ethel in Riverdale. Even though she’s perfectly fine looking, that’s gotta be bad for the self-esteem.
This movie shouldn't be about a "ugly" girl, it should be about a bully becoming a better person after being around someone ten times worse. I am ashamed I actually watched this.
You just wrote down the synopsis for 'a silent voice', except the bully seeks redemption after being around a 10 times better person. That's one of the greatest, most heartbreaking and realistic movies I've seen in a while.
@@Fthepatriarchy but the problem is that women being appreciated for only their looks is attacked constantly in news media and journalism while having stories wrapped around a guys looks is totally ok. Honestly its what the fuck ever to me-i only get mad at the double standards of society being ok with one but not the other.
@Holly Becker It's likable in American English, and likeable in British English (where it was invented). Personally I'd go with the latter, as the former looks like you're saying lick-able.
@Holly Becker Ofcourse you didn't. I'm sorry, but then you 'muricans whine why the rest of the world doesn't like you. Atleast google the shit before being smartass.
I love how this movie is about an 'ugly' girl when she's moderately attractive. Being fat does not make you ugly (in which, she isn't even that bad on weight either.)
I wish I WISH it ended with her getting rejected, I wish he said “you know, you’re actually my type. But you lied, manipulated and embarrassed me and I will not forgive you for that.” That would’ve sent a better message, don’t manipulate someone to get in their pants ESPECIALLY if you haven’t even spoken to them before and don’t even know that they’ll be repulsed by you like you seem to think is the case.
I actually find her really attractive, and I bet a lot of other people do as well, but the character's personality is indeed the real flaw. So I agree. That would'vebbeen a better ending than pulling a pity party and doing awful things with no repercussions just because "I'm ugly, life is hard"
I agree about the Veronica part. She was a “mean girl” but ended up maturing and standing up for herself. Sierra was like woe is me I’m not conventionally attractive so she catfishes and wins?!
I totally agree, I get what they were trying to do with body positivity, yet they miss the point entirely. They don’t actually talk about how hard it is to lose weight and the pressure there is to do so for so many.
"Do you have any idea what it's like to be a teenage girl and to look like this?" *SHE LITERALLY HAS THE PRIVILEGE OF CLEAN SKIN WHILE BEING A TEENAGER*
People are way more likely to point out your acne in Highschool… I’m not even insecure about my acne I just get super uncomfortable when someone points it out 😭
@Just a normal nazgul there saying if this movie was set in real life Sierra would barely get punished because of double standards and stuff so she wouldn’t be a criminal since she wouldn’t get in trouble they weren’t defending the movie at all
"Do you have any idea whats its like to be a teenage girl in this body?" Yes I actaully do know what its like, and it's funny how I manage to be a completely normal and non-scosiopathic human being. Being chunky aint what did this to u girl.
Agreed, halfway through the movie, I couldn't help but wish that the movie had been from Veronica's perspective rather than Sierra's. I found myself wanting to know more about her challenges with her bratty little sisters, and her mother pushing impossible standards of beauty onto her. But it seems as though the filmmakers thought that nobody would relate to the popular mean girl ahead of the brainy, frumpy girl.
Also he never called her out on pretending to be deaf when his own brother actually is deaf...like...his brother lives with that and it doesn't mean deaf people have a horrible life but there are struggles and you just...faked it to get out of an awkward situation? Isn't that extremely offensive to the deaf community of which your brother is a part?!?
It's really not that deep tho Don't act like you've never faked being deaf so that old pervs would stop talking to you in public transports (not saying Noah Centineo is an old perv 💀) The hypocrisy jumped out.
How insecure do you have to be to pretend being deaf in order for the guy you stalk/catfish to not figure the real you out? she was a whole mess I couldn’t believe the ending when he forgave her. He should’ve just gone with that popular girl who changed for the better and catfished no one
Sierra is not even unattractive at all. I knew plenty of girls in my high school who were way less attractive than that and they were popular and got many dates. Is this what you call “Hollywood unattractive?” Also, I hate it when movies portray marching band members who get good grades as the “losers”. As far as I’m concerned, being musically talented and doing well in school aren’t bad things, and I never knew anyone who was bullied for that. In fact, they were considered very popular and treated with respect. This trend has been around since like the 1980s, it needs to stop
IKRR??? I’m in marching band and I hate being stereotyped. I’m one of those kids who get good grades and totally fits the trope but we’re not all losers. Some band kids are just there for the easy A at my school but cmonnn man 😔
If she and Jamie had genuinely fallen in love while she was faking it for Sierra and then Sierra tries to break them up and Veronica turns it back on her, exposing how shitty a person she is, then the two of them live happily ever after..... That would've made a WAY better movie. It'd be a really cool twist where the main character is genuinely the villain and gets defeated in the end.
@@pkj4173 Totally agree!!! Sam was super sweet, a real friend and with that I mean one who can give you a trustable and real support, even you don't like it but it's good for you!
So veronica gets a free pass but sierra doesnt? Veronica was a bully and manipulative, also in cohorts with sierra. She bullied people and probably continued to everyday, in fact she kept their friendship a secret. So, because she got blasted on social media, all the sudden everyone acts like she was a good person. She catfished him too, but people seem to keep forgetting that
The ironic thing about these kind of movies is they do more damage than good. They cast people that aren’t bad looking and spend the whole movie telling you that person is ugly, while the audience is like if that persons ugly, what am I.
Imagine how good this movie could be if Veronica and Jamie ended up together, and especially if Sierra acknowledged and corrected her behavior while learning from her mistakes. Totally wasted potential. In my corrected version, the sexual assault scene never happened.
@@mistid1485 Really? I didn't bother to watch this garbage film, but based on the video it seems like Veronica grows as a person and becomes a good woman. Sure, she used to be a bitch, but she learned from that and isn't anymore. The only thing she's really continuously guilty of is her being complicit in catfishing, but she clearly isn't 100% on board with that.
@@LilJbm1 While I agree Veronica grew more, thinking about it from Jamie's perspective, the two worked together to deceive him, so if I were in his shoes I wouldn't want to be involved with either of them.
“I’m a high school junior wearing size 13 Nike’s. MENS size 13 Nike’s” *”do you have any idea what it’s like to be a teenage girl and to look like this”*
At least with Jodi she's just boring and has no character or personality beyond "Tall and insecure about it." Unlike Sierra who despite being crazy and evil is portrayed as a good kind person.
Sierra had the potential to be a really relatable character for teenage girls who feel like they don't fit the beauty standard but they fumbled it so, so bad
@@TheBonkleFox that seriously feels like where it SHOULD go, it's like netflix got the script for a horror, then instead had the victim develop Stockholm syndrome and put upbeat music to the whole thing.
People are focussing on her appearance. That has nothing to do with it. She was just an absolutely terrible human being. She hated herself because she used her appearances as an excuse for why no one liked her. She never took into account that her personality was awful.
I feel bad for the actress. She can blame everyone hating her because of the character she played but she cant change her looks just lose weight and everyone is calling her ugly right after watching this movie. People are confusing real life with fiction. She isn't even ugly.
Ahem. Let’s say it together: Insecurities are not an excuse to be a bad person. Once more for the people in the back, shall we? INSECURITIES. ARE NOT. AN EXCUSE. TO BE. A BAD PERSON!!
movie: chubby girl gets relentlessly bullied for being chubby reality: chubby girl walks down hallway and no one cares because they’re too invested in their own business
At my high school, I don’t think anybody was _relentlessly_ bullied, but it’s high school lol people talked and insulted each other all of the time… When I was a sophomore, there was this app called YikYak where you could find your school and anonymously talk shit about all the other kids in the school. It got so bad that our school had to hold a rally to speak about it and eventually banned usage.
I'm addicted to tea exactly, they must be okay with it. I personally don’t think i’m ugly but if I was meant to be an ugly character, or the butt of the joke, I’m not sure how I’d feel
@@goofparty420 Yeah but when actors talk about their character they act like it's a whole different person even though it's you but I the same time it's not lol. Did that make any sense 😂
I'm addicted to tea yes definitely, I see that side of it too, but at the same time, like you said, you still look exactly like your character. maybe it does make them feel some way lol, but I have yet to hear that from an actor/ actress
I can't believe she had the audacity to compare herself to Quasimodo. That character was severely disabled and deformed. Both of which were conditions he had no control over. Sierra Burgess is a little bit on the chubby side. That's not the same as being a half-blind, bow-legged hunchback! 😤
I find it very telling that this movie got no media attention for its portrayal of sexual assault because the victim was a man, if this were a woman the media would 100% rip this movie to shreds and hold it up as yet another example of patriarchy/misogyny
@@religiousotaku9926 It's sad that men don't get like the same treatment as women on the same situations. Like the case with Johny Depp and his ex-wife. They were quick to assume that he abused her even though it was the other way around and he had to GATHER SO MUCH EVIDENCE to proof to people that he's innocent and people are still hating on him.
Jenny Cull the pAtrIaRcHy isn’t what made movie reviewers/journalists/social media personalities from discussing male sexual assault. sexism did. men *and* women’s misandry is what made them decide to stay silent on male sexual assault. the patriarchy doesn’t exist to silence male voices, misandry does.
@@john_doeherty patriarchy and sexism go hand in hand. They affect men and women. Patriarchal standards are what hold men up to unrealistic and stupid standards that are considered to be "manly"
@@_V.Va_ Agreed. Just think it's weird that they call her ugly and disgusting in the movie and portray her as this girl who's not pretty enough to be liked or sth.
@@haleighkinser3668 wdym? she totally catfished this guy this entire time while he thought he was dating the "hot popular" girl, she even kissed him under false pretenses, and they she blamed the whole thing on being "ugly" and fat. It's no one's fault she's a bit Chubby and she's not that bad looking. She's is bratty and in no universe would he kiss her after what she put him through, except that he does and it makes no sense.
i’m a teenager who doesn’t get boyfriends and i’m not popular and sometimes i get upset about it, but i don’t blame “the world” or society, i know i’m not even really trying
This would’ve saved the movie if they went with the “main protagonist you’re not supposed to be rooting for”, Bojack Horseman being a huge prime example of it.
Keep Veronica’s redemption arc but sprinkle in the guilt of what she did in the past so she has always been questioning if she’s even worthy of redemption. While Sierra manipulates her thinking she’s always been and will always be a bad person so what’s the point of her growing anyway. Then people found out she’s been catfishing and starts to avoid her, leaving her to deal with her consequences. Meanwhile Veronica ends up in a toxic friendship with her always acting as Sierras puppet, until it took her a while to leave her.
The "bully" was honestly the best character. Once she asked her ghastly boyfriend "did you like my Hamlet video" I was completely won over. She was so sweet by the end, and her bad side was the result of having an awful mother. Sierra was horrifying.
Yeah seems to be the trend these days. In the 80s & 90s there were a lot of movies (e.g. Revenge of the Nerds) that would be a bona fide horror movie about sexual predators, if told from the perspective of the female characters. In the 2000s this seems to have flipped.
yeah and they’re also problematic. like y’all want me to believe that a pretty, slim, rich, white girl is the most oppressed person in the school??? and just this whole movie is a mess
The actress from tall girl does actually have insecurities from being tall, partially stemming from her time as a dancer in dance moms were she was told she was too tall to dance and was basically bullied. I think the movie could have worked if it were about stuff like that and not. gUYs DoNt lIkE mE CaUSe iM ToO tAlL
@@siobhanprivitera7432 It's sadly what's considered romantic--for teen movies aimed at girls. If a guy did this, the script would be shut down. Dorky, awkward girl with no self-awareness? Nah, totally fine.
And incredibly unrealistic. They literally just wanted to create this false message that even people viewed as ugly, fat or a loser can get their happened ending and find love. No one would be okay being in a relationship with a person who did all that regardless of what they looked like. That isn't how you get that happy ending sweetie. It should have been more about the character's development and the relationship between her and Veronica.
Love interest: “I feel like we haven’t yet acknowledged the fact that you lied, catfished, and assaulted me, while also dragging another girl into the whole thing?” Sierra Burgess, the only loser who matters: “yeah I know, and I totally feel bad about that stuff, but I don’t think that you’ve considered the fact that I feel ugly and that everyone hates me, and tricking you was a way to feel good about myself so… who’s really in the wrong here?”
I actually really like the character arc they gave Veronica. This movie should have really been about her and how, as a bully, developes to be a three dimensional well developed character. It really breaks apart the mean bitch trope every teen movie throws in there.
Laughs in veronica, Someone who's physically incapable of doing anything wrong, Like, She tries to be a bitch by giving Sierra phone number to (that guy that i do not remember the name) but it all works out at the end, Sierra is a fucking walking hair dot
My gay ass wanted to throw some hands when it came to Sierra’s stupid “revenge” on Veronica when she didn’t even try to ask about it??? Sierra became such a petty b and Veronica was really making some progress
The sad part is that the mean girl has an infinitely more interesting character arc, she's a surprisingly talented actor, she's got charisma. Honestly, the editing is pretty good, the cinematography is fine and it seems like the directing was pretty damn good. The writing is just awful which is such a shame because it looks like a lot of people took this movie seriously and they genuinely put in the effort. So sad
@@agataaaaaa3158 right, they treat the "black best friend" just like the "gay best friend" its annoying they are people, not props. Give them backstory or SOMETHING goodness
@@ge2719 It's certainly not _easy_ to lose weight, especially if you can't wrap your head around the fact that you got bloated with excess adipose by a long sequence of poor life choices that can't be resolved with a minimum of effort. I've found the best successes come from staying away from telling them to lose weight, and instead coaching them on how to eat healthier and exercise. Losing weight seems like a good goal, but it's really not - too many things can go fucky, and you're not necessarily getting healthier. You're stopping further damage, sure, but that's not the same thing.
@@stormisuedonym4599 all losing weight requires is to not eat as much. it literally requires not doing something. i reached 210lbs and couldnt blame it on muscle mass fromt he gym any more. so i lost 45lbs in 2 months. it was easy. i just had to eat less, drink plenty of water, make sure to take multivitamins as well if you ant to make sure you dont get deficient in anything. anyone who says losing weight is hard doesnt actually want to lose weight. they want to pretend like they do and then keep eating.
Graeme Evans you need to exercise and eat healthy but Starving yourself is detrimental and it’s very unhealthy to lose more than 2 pounds a week, so yes it hard to put in a effort to be healthy especially when your starting at a heavier weight
I feel bad for Sierra's friend, he constantly tries to tell her to do the right thing and she doesn't listen so he's in on the hellish ride, he was honestly the only person in this movie with a decent opinion about the situations and the pretty much the voice of reason (Edit: holy shit I never got this many likes thx m8s)
@@LostNbound they are psychopathic. they are taught to get a thrill out of their hypocritical and abusive behaviors to each other while answering to vapid identity politics. Sociopaths don't get the same kind of gratification that drives most of social justice that most are being taught to cultivate heavily while being sensitive snowflakes about everything.
@@Quandry1 Ah. I've never taken the time to go into in-depth reading as to the difference between them. Most things say it's hard to tell the difference. Need to look it up since my last gf was such a cunt she had to be one of the two.
@@lennon1913 YES! The actress actually has pictures where she's styled well and has some nice makeup and she actually looks cute. It's just this movie trying to make her look "Hollywood homely" and excusing her terrible behavior because "welp I'm not attractive so let's assault a boy".
The worst thing is that she's not even that bad-looking. She's not that fat. She looks like probably 80% of people around me and how I look myself. I'm not ugly, that's first, and even if I was, I wouldn't try to play victim out of it and try to excuse my every mistake by it.
Well actually the burn was more like an explanation to make the bully feel belittled by her "genius" on explaining the literal meaning of a book written hundreds of years beforehand
While also making herself look a thousand times worse because why would she help the person out with calling herself someone who looks way worse than Frodo lol
This move is romanticising catfishing, stalker tendencies, manipulation and lying, in addition to sexual harassment. The only reason this movie is popular is because the dude is currently blowing up on social media because she’s hot. This could almost be a horror movie if it was edited slightly differently. Reverse the roles and see if this is as romantic as it’s trying to be.
but it's romantic when a girl does it.seriously though that double standard pisses me off. I remember seeing some rom com about a married woman who goes to Europe, has an affair with another guy, and they fall in love. Movie was trying to play it off like everything was okay because she was feeling neglected, and fallowing her heart, but if the movie was about a guy, everyone would have called him out for being a cheating asshole.
Yeah true...you can't just go on and use ur insecurities as an excuse to do all the terrible things that you want...her personality is wayy uglier than her looks are portrayed to be...and THAT is what makes her a loser.
Honestly, though, I feel like this would have been a fine movie if you just removed the love interest and made it about an overweight girl learning to feel confident in herself and a bully learning to be a better person. Setup: They get assigned to work together on a group project. The plus-sized girl, who never bothered to take care of or try on her appearance learns how to style her hair, wear more flattering clothing, and the such to make herself look more confident and therefore attractive from the bully girl. The bully girl learns how to show more empathy, kindness, and be more confident in her personality and intelligence from the plus-sized girl. She learns that she's more than just her looks, and that she doesn't have to be flawless all the time. It's a cliche plot, but who doesn't love a campy movie every once in awhile? Plus, it's infinitely better than what the actual movie was about.
GioTheVax but in Cyrano de Bergerac he doesn’t sexually assault her and he actually just helps the guy she likes end up with her so she’ll be happy. There’s no selfish intent. The “it’s my words” part is true, but this movie just ruined Cyrano’s character in a really gross way.
@@Pikathunderboltt Lol, you would love the movie Whiplash. There is a character in it who is a perfect example of a psycho music teacher. The insane perfectionist Terence Fletcher. And the movie itself is based on a true story.
That whole "Oh I am a insecure teenage girl" thing came out of nowhere. During the whole film she did not display a single insecurity. That whole scene in the beginning with her mom and the toothpaste on her mouth made me think she did not care about her appearance. When Veronica would talk bad about her she came back with witty comebacks showed that she was not docile or someone that will be stepped on.
Shay45 Welcome to believable characterization you ignoramus. People in real life aren't 2-dimensional characters that hold one personality throughout an entire movie, and for once this was the movie to show that. People's emotions fluctuate, people that seem nice and easygoing on the outside can hold toxic grudges on the inside that cause them to do things *you* wouldn't normally believe them to do because-guess what genius? *You don't know them*. Sierra as character made you think that she was the type of female protagonist to be strong, witty, sure of herself enough to stand Veronica's constant teasing because THAT'S THE ONLY SIDE SHE WAS WILLING TO SHOW THE AUDIENCE! When she pulled that stunt near the end of leaking Veronica's picture, that showed you all along she wasn't the person everyone ignorantly thought her to be of yet another goodie two shoes female protag trope- she was *herself*. A human being. Which is why I commend the writers of this show for making such a humanistic character. If that idea still doesn't satisfy you, then another way you could have seen it was that Sierra was planned to be an unreliable narrator and fool the audience , have people already forgotten that this plot device still exists?
Honestly true, I mean if she's someone who is not confident then she wouldn't be confident enough to stand up for herself. That's what contradicts it really
The other weird thing about this movie was that they showed her story like it's just Sierra who is overweight or whatever like??? You're telling me that in her entire school she's the only one who is not skinny? Okay sureee
I didn't know much about this movie but this genuinely made me sick. Sierra kisses him without him knowing it's her???????? Imagine if the roles were reversed, they wouldn't dare make a movie like that nowadays. Dear god, the double standards! Disgusting.
They did dare, it's called revenge of the nerds where a guy has "sex" with a girl when she thinks he's someone else and then has the girl be OKAY with it - that movie is considered a "classic" that people love. Oh and then check out the vampire diaries when a character, Klaus kisses another character, Caroline while in control of her boyfriend's body while she is unaware. Fans LOVED that. It's all disgusting but the roles HAVE been reserved before
Yes, it's especially creepy, that towards the end, when Jamey and Sierra kiss at the dance, he remarks "Have we done this before?", which is supposed to come off as cute, but is instead rather disturbingly creepy, especially when you consider that Sierra kissed him without his consent!😲
As a fat girl who struggled with her self-image all throughout high school.... I absolutely despised this movie. I was so excited to see something interesting, and when the trailer came out I assumed it was going to be fixed halfway through the movie. But the fact that she constantly does shitty and unfair things throughout the whole movie and then gets a happy ending? Sierra isn't deserving of that guy, in fact, Veronica is!!! There's literally a whole show about cat fishing, and they thought this was a good idea?!?! Seeing her blame her appearance for acting out was frustrating especially, because she isn't even ugly. She's just fat. She prided herself on being okay with her appearance that she never took a look at her personality, which was the truly ugly part about her.
nozomommy unfortunately things like this happen sometimes to bad people and the good person doesn’t get a happy ending. I know someone who is over weight and struggled in elementary because kids would pick on her but then she stood up for her self all the time. Sometimes she had malicious intent beyond what others said about her. She was always manipulative and jealous of me that she went on a smearing campaign on me so that no one would like me. Till this day she is still malicious with me. I remember one time she gave a present to a girl who she messed with. Pretending she was her friend, gave her a gift that was a razor and she left a birthday card inside writing a convincing message that she should go kill herself. This evil overweight woman now is happily married with a daughter that she reflects her dreams, trying to prove to the world she is smart by living through her daughters achievements. Even evil people have children.
Hollywood is obsessed with making the 'slightly chubby-but attractive-girl with-sociological-issues' the victim. Its TOTALLY OKAY for her to catfish an attractive guy and get her happy ending, but if Veronica does it- hell brakes loose.
3:42 a better comeback to the “Move it Frodo.” Would have been something like “Sure, Golem.” Her comeback made her seem pretentious while something quick and witty with her leaving would have shown that she doesn’t care what those girls think of her and that she doesn’t feel the need to look good for them, and that she is self assured in herself without their opinion. Just little details like that could have made her a more likeable protagonist (as well as changing major story plots that make her a terrible person)
I think they're talking about that scandal where celebrity parents are buying their kids places in college so they don't have to take any entrance exams of y'know, actually working for it
I literally cringed when she kissed him. The whole thing felt wrong, and is the female version of those movies where the guy does nothing but bad things and still gets the girl in the end. No! We really need to stop rewarding these shitty characters. Atleast make the person they get with to be shitty too so it feels fair, kinda like Mr. Big and Carrie on Sex and the City. We all liked Aiden, but she deserved shit such as herself like Big.
Yes omg. And I don’t understand how he just forgave her for lying to and manipulating him. I think he should have gotten to know Veronica for who she truly is, and Veronica would have the experience of having a guy like her for more than just her looks. But he’s not going to suddenly be attracted to someone who he didn’t even like in the first place who also tricked him. Doesn’t make sense.
Also are we just not gonna talk about Netflix really misleaded everyone and made it seem like it was a movie about body positivity when in reality it had NOTHING to do with that?
this review popped up randomly in my recommended. i’ve never liked this movie, and this vid was very interesting, engaging, and true as hell. but honestly, all the little fat shaming comments were just unnecessary. i know you put that disclaimer in at the beginning saying you’re attacking shannon purser’s ‘character’ but you’re literally attacking her as an actress too. i wouldn’t enjoyed this a whole lot more without those unnecessary digs.
It's even funnier because she isn't even ugly. Sure, not the prettiest person but not ugly by a long shot. A wonderful case of "We want to portray a fat and ugly girl but we also only want to cast conventionally pretty people."
@@davejeneef7727 she'd be decent looking if she excercised, dont get me wrong shes not straight up fat but shes somewhere between there and chubby, i feel like saying shes just chubby is kinda an understatement, and its not even the case of "genetic problems" its straight up just a case of poor health
Exactly, no-one in the school cares. My friend is larger than average and I cannot name one time in school someone has mentioned it, or she's mentioned someone mentioning it, or anything of the like.
I think a more fitting ending scene would be watching Sierra brutally murder Veronica in some dank dark basement, then cut her face off and wear it as a mask. Camera pans around to see the dude naked and bloody, chained to the wall with horror in his eyes as Sierra yells at him "DO YOU LOVE ME NOW!". Close up of the terror in his eyes and smash cut to credits with a thumping soundtrack.
She'd probably give him the Annie Wilkes treatment where she kidnaps him, ties him to her bed and breaks his legs so he can't escape. The film would work better if it was horror with Sierra psychotically obsessed with Jamey, stalking him everywhere and flying into a jealous rage when she sees him dating Veronica.
@@mcr5truther because I suck at writing? A good idea only works if you have a good screen writer. I have some experience with comic books which translates pretty well to story boards, but I leave the actual writing to the writers. I'm more of a visual guy.
"Do you have any idea what's like being me?" *is reasonably smart, artistically gifted, daughter of a famous poet and motivational speaker, speaks like 3½ languages, ok looking with clear skin and good hair* *_sure_*
@@sleepysera im fat and get called a jew 99% of the time and accused of stealing all the time i dont ever care and im in highschool ive never went through these "phases" in my life like what i see in these teen movies where they all go full on cunt to their parents,this is usaully all shoveled down your throat the only relatable teen movie is superbad
She's also not what would really be called fat by anybody but people pushing fat acceptance or those pushing super skinny eating disorder type figures. both of which have unrealistic views of reality. And that's not even touching the fact that with everything she's got she may not get into the most prestigious universities without a bit of extracarriculars but many universities would not exactly be turning her away either so she'd have a wide pick of schools as long as she has the money to attend.
Veronica is not a good person either, having family issues is not an excuse to bully others. But I can agree she at least has a better character development.
@@chucho7w739 objectively you're correct, in like real-world application. But considering what we the viewers know about Sierra- XD (Im fucken-Im kidding bullying is bad I know XD)
@@chucho7w739 She doesn't start off as a good person, but she apparently winds up as a sympathetic one. ... Which is more than can be said of the other points of this love triangle.
Chucho 7w7 But that’s the perfect character arc. She starts out as a bad person but learns to see the other side and learn how to deal with her bad home life
I higly doubt that real incels even exist. Ive never met a person who is incapable of getting a partner. 🤔 People might act stupid on the internet, but how often people act like that irl? 😮
Honestly she has the same problem most average people have, bad diet. Nothing a physical training programme and some nutritional education can't remedy. Nothing fundamentally 'ugly' going on. Of course looking like a real average person makes you ugly on TV/Film.
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The most unrealistic thing about this movie is them being able to talk during band practice and not being murdered
I play double bass and there are a lot of parts where the violins are playing while we watch and have nothing to do. my mate is constantly talking through this and one in every 10 times he gets in trouble
@@nylo5186 lol yeah I play the violin and the basses get the most shit for talking.
The fact that she’s a woodwind which means she’s at the front is questionable that she didn’t get reprimanded
also, her friend is holding the clarinet with the wrong hand at the top (which makes it psychically impossible to play a bunch of notes) and I am fuming
It looked pretty small too
I’m amazed how she didn’t get caught
It literally should have revolved around Veronica because holy crap she was the most interesting and 3 dimensional character in this dam movie
Only because the other characters are worse than her.
Yeah agree
Yeah a movie about a bully becoming a good person sounds more interesting.
@@bastianalsoknownasagoddamn3647 But it was only because she was humiliated...
Personally I disagree. Veronica was to say the least a horrific, stuck up, bitch. Sierra’s life was miserable from girls like her and others. It’s bullshit. I’m so over bullies getting away w being a victim. Sierra was bullied and it fucked with her mentally, emotionally, and physically. So she wasn’t ok. She thought if she started acting like those privileged pos girls like Veronica that life would be easier. But it wasn’t, and she was lost and stuck. I don’t think Sierra is a bad person. I think she had enough of people’s bullshit
‘I’m a terrible and ugly person’ and spends the rest of the movie proving it.
Good job, I guess?
😂
😂😂😂
Moral of the story:
When a woman tells you she's crazy and horrible believe her, no matter how much you want to sleep with her.
@@BillClinton228 To be fair, some people are overly critical of themselves so usually you gotta assess the situation for yourself anyway
😂😂
Dumplin is a much sweeter and better movie with a plus size girl falling in love with a skinny boy. The romance is not the main part of the story, it follows her becoming a better and more confident person, and she doesn’t date him until she figures herself out. He loves her and she doesn’t have to trick him, lose weight or completely change her personality for him to do it. It’s still kind of cheesy and the movie is not as a good as the book but it’s awesome!
Yes!!! I wish more people talked about Dumplin
Dumplin is the best movie 🍿 ❤
I loved it too!
Yes! I wish they also made a movie out of Puddin, too. And I wish there was a third companion book as well.
I really enjoyed Dumplin! What's not love? Yeah a little cheesy but... Dolly!
It's ironic that it's easier to sympathize with the mean girl, who goes through actual character development, more so than the real main character.
Squeezy Jibbs like sharpay
Character development isn’t suddenly just flipping a switch out of nowhere and becoming a different person cuz the writers are too lazy to do it right
people really need to learn what character development means
Literally the sequel trilogy
I hate those kind of shows/movies
Tall girl, Sierra burgess, and kissing booth are just examples of why you shouldn’t let 40 y/o adults make films about teens
Thank god, I still haven't seen any of these movies and I never will. 😂
_And_ the _Heathers_ mini-series.
@@rogue7723 oh don’t get me started on those traumatic memories
😂😂😂😂And AFTER movie also includes... written by 40yr old women b8 teens watch those and thinks its gooood.....
@@lonerprani that’s because all these kids that think they’re good films don’t understand what makes a good and healthy relationship
At least she doesn’t wear men size 13 Nike’s.
Oh, then she would be a real monster.
Jay that would be the worst thing a sentient being could experience at all
Jay I laughed so hard at that
"BEAT THAT~"
Me: is the 1k like
Also me: *reality can be everything I want*
The most popular girl in my high school class was less attractive than this, but she was abso-fuckin-lutely hilarious, and had a penchant for writing Disney parody songs. Like, literally, she won prom queen by a landslide.
Personality actually does matter more than looks, even in high school.
Huh
I think your right my friend 👍✌️
Well said Cymond
The more popular girls and boys in my school were also that way because they were funny, or nice, or both
The bitchy students never won any votes because no one liked them. Even as a teen those movies that show the popular students and being mean never made any sense to me. Who wants to hang around a bratt?
Cap
why does the “mean girl” has a greater character development than the main character
Because I think it was supposed to be about her instead, but the director thought otherwise. The dumbass.....
Dude this had to be like a horror stalker movie at first but got changed to a coming of age story.
Chelsella it would’ve been way better like that
Chelsella then it got turned into a Disney movie and she sang her way to victory
Because the main character isn't suppose to grow. Everyone around her is supposed to bend to her will and see what an amazing person she is.
This whole movie is just defending and glorifying catfishing. Like wtf.
It's an updated "The Truth About Cats And Dogs".
This is basically the plot of Cyrano DeBergerac, but back then a lot of questionable values were okay.
And sexual assault
Not just catfishing, also about teenage girl who doesnt get ưhat they want
This is literally ever MTV Catfish's excuse
I know I totally manipulated and decieved you...b-b-but our convos were real! :)
She’s an actual psychopath, she thinks that people owe her things just because she doesn’t feel good about herself. She sexually assaulted Jamie but because of the disregard for men being sexually assaulted, it doesn’t seem that he knows that kiss was assault
Period
She’s like a female version of the Incel Neckbeard
evilangel7769 it is assault. He was wanting a kiss but from Veronica instead of Sierra. He did not consent to getting kissed by Sierra as he thought Veronica was the one he was kissing. It definitely counts.
www.rochester.edu/sexualmisconduct/whatissexualassault.html
@evilangel7769 im javing seiszure reading your comment
@evilangel7769 you saw the video tho... He didn't know who he was kissing so yes it was sexual assault because it was a kiss without his consent
I’m curious about how the main actress is doing mentally since she’s been purposely cast as “the ugly girl” for multiple things now. This show, Ethel in Riverdale. Even though she’s perfectly fine looking, that’s gotta be bad for the self-esteem.
Yeah for sure
Pretty sure she's taking it like devito
I am the "the ugly girl", "ugly girl that get paid"
Barb in stranger things as well
@@kiraschutte7621yeah but they didn’t call her the ugly girl in stranger things. She’s just the girl that dies first
@@okasartYeah but she is implied to be one of the "unpopular girls" as she is seen alone at the pool while Nancy is having fun with the "cool kids".
This movie shouldn't be about a "ugly" girl, it should be about a bully becoming a better person after being around someone ten times worse. I am ashamed I actually watched this.
That sounds like a good plan
You just wrote down the synopsis for 'a silent voice', except the bully seeks redemption after being around a 10 times better person. That's one of the greatest, most heartbreaking and realistic movies I've seen in a while.
@@khadijasidhpuri4669 Agreed. I recently watched the movie and it’s definitely one of my favorites.
@@khadijasidhpuri4669 I just watched that movie as well and I liked it
@@khadijasidhpuri4669 silent voice makes me cry errytime my guy
it’s ironic how her message was that people shouldn’t judge her because of her looks... and then only liked this guy because of his looks
I don't think you could seperate look, behavior and charakter this much. Cause all of them influence each other.
Irony!
That is always the plot in teen movies. Male and female main characters 😑
@@Fthepatriarchy but the problem is that women being appreciated for only their looks is attacked constantly in news media and journalism while having stories wrapped around a guys looks is totally ok. Honestly its what the fuck ever to me-i only get mad at the double standards of society being ok with one but not the other.
She's actually cute and the movie acts like she's a troll...lol
Pretty ironic tho. Veronica went from unlikeable to likeable and Sierra the total opposite
Veronica's story would make an interesting film. Queen B to lovely person. Who gets past all the shit in their life.
@Holly Becker It's likable in American English, and likeable in British English (where it was invented). Personally I'd go with the latter, as the former looks like you're saying lick-able.
@Holly Becker No worries
@Holly Becker Ofcourse you didn't. I'm sorry, but then you 'muricans whine why the rest of the world doesn't like you. Atleast google the shit before being smartass.
@@JustAChinesePleb A. I don't care
B. You're a smartass yourself I see
I love how this movie is about an 'ugly' girl when she's moderately attractive. Being fat does not make you ugly (in which, she isn't even that bad on weight either.)
Pretty sure most people do not find her attractive
Being fat also doesn’t give you an excuse to be a jerk
It doesn't hurt lolol
Idk bout that
Yes!!! Dumplin' was a WAY better example of weight insecurities and learning to not only fall in love , but fall in love with yourself too.
"Do you ever feel like the world is conspiring against you?" She says to the guy she's been catfishing with the help of another person.
So truuuuuuuuuue
She's one of those "Because I'm not getting what I want whenever I want it the universe is conspiring against me" types.
This right here, highlights exactly why this movie is trash.
I feel the world is conspiring against me. I'll have to cleanse it with fire.
And she also manipulated that other person
I wish I WISH it ended with her getting rejected, I wish he said “you know, you’re actually my type. But you lied, manipulated and embarrassed me and I will not forgive you for that.” That would’ve sent a better message, don’t manipulate someone to get in their pants ESPECIALLY if you haven’t even spoken to them before and don’t even know that they’ll be repulsed by you like you seem to think is the case.
That would’ve been an AMAZING ending
I actually find her really attractive, and I bet a lot of other people do as well, but the character's personality is indeed the real flaw. So I agree. That would'vebbeen a better ending than pulling a pity party and doing awful things with no repercussions just because "I'm ugly, life is hard"
Yessssss
IKR
Yeah, but I’ll also add a conclusion of Sierra going to therapy and reaching a healthy relationship with some other guy and specially with herself omg
I agree about the Veronica part. She was a “mean girl” but ended up maturing and standing up for herself. Sierra was like woe is me I’m not conventionally attractive so she catfishes and wins?!
It is what it is.
Oof
I totally agree, I get what they were trying to do with body positivity, yet they miss the point entirely. They don’t actually talk about how hard it is to lose weight and the pressure there is to do so for so many.
ngl kinda like the ending to tall girl, milk box boy was being a creepy stalker and in the end he gets the girl
@@maryhadalamb3313 it's not that hard if you have the will power.
"Do you have any idea what it's like to be a teenage girl and to look like this?"
*SHE LITERALLY HAS THE PRIVILEGE OF CLEAN SKIN WHILE BEING A TEENAGER*
People are way more likely to point out your acne in Highschool… I’m not even insecure about my acne I just get super uncomfortable when someone points it out 😭
@@probablyhuman9947 Or they give you skin care advice
And she's WHITE.
I’ve had acne for 3 years but at least I’m not slightly overweight.
“Privilege” 🙄
If I could survive high school with literally the worst cystic acne and not catfish anybody, you and your clear skin should be just fine, Sierra
Me too
same. still have bad acne and scarring at 25.
if i can survive high school and being openly queer in small town where everyone is queer phobic she should be fine lmao
I survived being a dark skinned black girl. Literally all a white girl has to do to be accepted is not be overweight.
witch, please unless you went to an all white high school in the 1950s that’s not a big deal.
A more accurate title for this movie would be, Sierra Burgess is a criminal
😂😂😂
I JUST WHEEZED HAHAHAHHA
HAHAHAHA DED
she isnt a criminal... we all know if this happened irl, she would get a slap on the wrist and a finger wave.
@Just a normal nazgul there saying if this movie was set in real life Sierra would barely get punished because of double standards and stuff so she wouldn’t be a criminal since she wouldn’t get in trouble they weren’t defending the movie at all
We love a character that changes through the movie and learns to be a better person
I’m of course talking about Veronica
And ya know, ya know, ya know, we can be beautiful
Pumpkin Pie 2.O You hope, you dream, you pray, and you get your way! (lol no u do not)
DAMN, THAT'S A BURN FROM THE EARTH'S CORE!
@@tirea277 You eat, you insult, and you think you're all that! Really you're fat.
Reeeeeey! Ma-rey-sue?
"Do you have any idea whats its like to be a teenage girl in this body?"
Yes I actaully do know what its like, and it's funny how I manage to be a completely normal and non-scosiopathic human being. Being chunky aint what did this to u girl.
Sociopathic*
Honestly if the movie was about Veronica it would have been better.
Sa Sa BrokeBitch definitely
Agreed, halfway through the movie, I couldn't help but wish that the movie had been from Veronica's perspective rather than Sierra's. I found myself wanting to know more about her challenges with her bratty little sisters, and her mother pushing impossible standards of beauty onto her. But it seems as though the filmmakers thought that nobody would relate to the popular mean girl ahead of the brainy, frumpy girl.
Ya, Because of her presence the movie wasn't a complete disappointment.
So true
ikr i was thinking about the same thing
“She’s been thinking so much about the D, she’s about to get an F.”
Now that’s poetry
You're blessed
Read this as he said it lol
Can i give this another thumbs up?
My thoughts exactly! That was pretty clever. This whole video is full of clever sh*t like that.
That was freaking smooth
Also he never called her out on pretending to be deaf when his own brother actually is deaf...like...his brother lives with that and it doesn't mean deaf people have a horrible life but there are struggles and you just...faked it to get out of an awkward situation? Isn't that extremely offensive to the deaf community of which your brother is a part?!?
This is what I kept thinking about! That scene made cringe!
Oh boy.....
It's really not that deep tho
Don't act like you've never faked being deaf so that old pervs would stop talking to you in public transports (not saying Noah Centineo is an old perv 💀)
The hypocrisy jumped out.
How insecure do you have to be to pretend being deaf in order for the guy you stalk/catfish to not figure the real you out? she was a whole mess I couldn’t believe the ending when he forgave her. He should’ve just gone with that popular girl who changed for the better and catfished no one
@@dc9067 Wait, what? Is this sarcasm or something that you've actually seen enough times to comment it?
Sierra is not even unattractive at all. I knew plenty of girls in my high school who were way less attractive than that and they were popular and got many dates. Is this what you call “Hollywood unattractive?”
Also, I hate it when movies portray marching band members who get good grades as the “losers”. As far as I’m concerned, being musically talented and doing well in school aren’t bad things, and I never knew anyone who was bullied for that. In fact, they were considered very popular and treated with respect. This trend has been around since like the 1980s, it needs to stop
It's the hot unattractive until she takes kff her glasses and changes her hair trope
IKRR??? I’m in marching band and I hate being stereotyped. I’m one of those kids who get good grades and totally fits the trope but we’re not all losers.
Some band kids are just there for the easy A at my school but cmonnn man 😔
I was in marching band and some of the popular kids were in it. There were also girls that were bigger than Sierra that landed hot boyfriends
veronica is the only person i cared about in this movie. she really changed as a person and showed her true self and i love her.
@niggaweirdo ive had enough
Barack Old Llama amazing name
Same
This movie missed the point. People like Veronica more than Sierra
If you point it out too they get all types of mad. Like quit victimizing Veronica
I thought this was SUPPOSED to happen?
If she and Jamie had genuinely fallen in love while she was faking it for Sierra and then Sierra tries to break them up and Veronica turns it back on her, exposing how shitty a person she is, then the two of them live happily ever after..... That would've made a WAY better movie. It'd be a really cool twist where the main character is genuinely the villain and gets defeated in the end.
@@haku8135I totally agree, it would’ve made such a cool twist, and the title still would’ve made sense bc Sierra really is a loser 😭
Veronica was the only perosn i liked in this film... she is the only person who change and showed depth as a person
and Sam was the voice of reason
True
@@pkj4173 Totally agree!!! Sam was super sweet, a real friend and with that I mean one who can give you a trustable and real support, even you don't like it but it's good for you!
yeeeess!! When I see her story and her house, I understood all...
So veronica gets a free pass but sierra doesnt? Veronica was a bully and manipulative, also in cohorts with sierra. She bullied people and probably continued to everyday, in fact she kept their friendship a secret. So, because she got blasted on social media, all the sudden everyone acts like she was a good person. She catfished him too, but people seem to keep forgetting that
The ironic thing about these kind of movies is they do more damage than good. They cast people that aren’t bad looking and spend the whole movie telling you that person is ugly, while the audience is like if that persons ugly, what am I.
I think you’re really pretty!
Imagine how good this movie could be if Veronica and Jamie ended up together, and especially if Sierra acknowledged and corrected her behavior while learning from her mistakes. Totally wasted potential.
In my corrected version, the sexual assault scene never happened.
I don't like the first part but I like the second part.
In my opinion, neither of those bitches deserved Jamie.
@@mistid1485 Really? I didn't bother to watch this garbage film, but based on the video it seems like Veronica grows as a person and becomes a good woman. Sure, she used to be a bitch, but she learned from that and isn't anymore. The only thing she's really continuously guilty of is her being complicit in catfishing, but she clearly isn't 100% on board with that.
@@LilJbm1 While I agree Veronica grew more, thinking about it from Jamie's perspective, the two worked together to deceive him, so if I were in his shoes I wouldn't want to be involved with either of them.
@@moomorgan5893 also, Veronica didn't want him anyway.
Idk man, Veronica was also a part of the catfishing...
“I’m a high school junior wearing size 13 Nike’s. MENS size 13 Nike’s”
*”do you have any idea what it’s like to be a teenage girl and to look like this”*
🤣
atara long lost twins
At least with Jodi she's just boring and has no character or personality beyond "Tall and insecure about it." Unlike Sierra who despite being crazy and evil is portrayed as a good kind person.
It’s the same picture
That's a showdown of the century of i've ever seen one
I hate it when filmmakers try to properly represent the inner workings of a school and fail miserably
Olaf?
Jamie looks like Peter Kavinsky from To all the Boys I’ve Loved Before but less hot.
@@ellielevy9086 what are you talking about?
Random Person one show that does that perfectly is “the secret life of an American teenager”
Riverfail
Sierra had the potential to be a really relatable character for teenage girls who feel like they don't fit the beauty standard but they fumbled it so, so bad
Ngl, i lowkey wanted him to end up with Veronica
Was kinda hoping it'd take a dark turn as sierra then tries to murder veronica but can't cause she's fucking fat.
Same
@@TheBonkleFox that seriously feels like where it SHOULD go, it's like netflix got the script for a horror, then instead had the victim develop Stockholm syndrome and put upbeat music to the whole thing.
I highkey wanted it.
@@TheBonkleFox The fat part was unnecessary, but you're totally right about the twist, This should have had hat.
People are focussing on her appearance. That has nothing to do with it. She was just an absolutely terrible human being. She hated herself because she used her appearances as an excuse for why no one liked her. She never took into account that her personality was awful.
frankly, if she gets to play the "hurr durr i'm fat" card, i don't see why the opposing side can't play it too.
She's not that ugly , she's ugly cuz she's fat ... idk what am I trying to prove here ,lol
exactly. which makes her: an incel.
I feel bad for the actress. She can blame everyone hating her because of the character she played but she cant change her looks just lose weight and everyone is calling her ugly right after watching this movie. People are confusing real life with fiction. She isn't even ugly.
Basically she was an incel
Ahem. Let’s say it together: Insecurities are not an excuse to be a bad person.
Once more for the people in the back, shall we?
INSECURITIES. ARE NOT. AN EXCUSE. TO BE. A BAD PERSON!!
Sam LOTR-HP I need to make a sign out of this
None Of your business maybe a t-shirt or billboard
Zander-notch77 I actually plan to make wall art with quotes on them
None Of your business that would actually be pretty cool. I hope to see it one day
Zander-notch77 maybe you will, thx for the support
movie: chubby girl gets relentlessly bullied for being chubby
reality: chubby girl walks down hallway and no one cares because they’re too invested in their own business
Yes 🙌🏾
Except it does happen. Like a lot. It happened to me personally.
@@HannahIrene719 Yeah idk why people think it just doesnt happen irl lmao
At my high school, I don’t think anybody was _relentlessly_ bullied, but it’s high school lol people talked and insulted each other all of the time… When I was a sophomore, there was this app called YikYak where you could find your school and anonymously talk shit about all the other kids in the school. It got so bad that our school had to hold a rally to speak about it and eventually banned usage.
Reality: people are actually exactly as mean as portrayed and worse, the way my large friends get treated compared to me is unnerving
"Look, Sierra, what you did was terrible and bad, like, really bad"
ROLL CREDITS
That would have been a way better ending omg
Looks like you've been watching Cinema Sins
Do you believe in ghosh?
directed by: Robert b Weide, bum bum .....
makes me wonder how actors/ actresses feel when playing characters who are meant to be “ugly” or whatever
Yeah it must feel weird because you look just like your character
I'm addicted to tea exactly, they must be okay with it. I personally don’t think i’m ugly but if I was meant to be an ugly character, or the butt of the joke, I’m not sure how I’d feel
@@goofparty420 Yeah but when actors talk about their character they act like it's a whole different person even though it's you but I the same time it's not lol. Did that make any sense 😂
I'm addicted to tea yes definitely, I see that side of it too, but at the same time, like you said, you still look exactly like your character. maybe it does make them feel some way lol, but I have yet to hear that from an actor/ actress
i know right? i mean you are portraying that character and even if its just acting they are calling you ugly
"Have you ever been in a highschool? Teenagers are dickheads!"
Me a teenager: I mean he's not wrong
Everyone agrees to that. Worst phase ever.
people are still dickheads when you get older, just a different kind
Yeah, well, adults are just experienced children. Now, if you excuse me, I need to go have some ice cream for dinner.
What no lol teenagers aren’t like that *sees a kid that hasn’t done my homework* OI FUCK HEAD GET BACK HERE YOU HAVEN’T DONE MY HOMEWORK!!!!
🙏 amen
I can't believe she had the audacity to compare herself to Quasimodo. That character was severely disabled and deformed. Both of which were conditions he had no control over. Sierra Burgess is a little bit on the chubby side. That's not the same as being a half-blind, bow-legged hunchback! 😤
I find it very telling that this movie got no media attention for its portrayal of sexual assault because the victim was a man, if this were a woman the media would 100% rip this movie to shreds and hold it up as yet another example of patriarchy/misogyny
That’s those double standards for ya...men can’t be abused in anyway shape or form
@@religiousotaku9926 It's sad that men don't get like the same treatment as women on the same situations.
Like the case with Johny Depp and his ex-wife. They were quick to assume that he abused her even though it was the other way around and he had to GATHER SO MUCH EVIDENCE to proof to people that he's innocent and people are still hating on him.
tbh, this film IS another example of the patriarchy. About how men are supposed to enjoy whatever women do, even if it's without consent.
Jenny Cull the pAtrIaRcHy isn’t what made movie reviewers/journalists/social media personalities from discussing male sexual assault. sexism did. men *and* women’s misandry is what made them decide to stay silent on male sexual assault.
the patriarchy doesn’t exist to silence male voices, misandry does.
@@john_doeherty patriarchy and sexism go hand in hand. They affect men and women. Patriarchal standards are what hold men up to unrealistic and stupid standards that are considered to be "manly"
Doesn't SiErRa BuRgEsS look completely average too? I mean yea she's a bit chubby, but her face is completely normal..
I guess her personality just really makes her less attractive.
@@_V.Va_ Agreed. Just think it's weird that they call her ugly and disgusting in the movie and portray her as this girl who's not pretty enough to be liked or sth.
@@leiasart4610 Yeah, movies need to stop acting like High School is this place where you're popular and a bitch, or just average and a loser.
Trust me. Any flaw you have with be examined and made fun of. But she literally never stands up for herself
@@sadiegarcia2332 I got High School long behind me. I know that. :D But that's not the point.
Someone needs to stop making movies about stories they found on wattpad
Oh shit this was found on wattpad
Wait this was found on Wattpad?!
And now we get After! Yay..... Kill me
How kissing booth came to life
After...
The sequel-
"You burnt down an orphanage and ran over a little old lady"
"But I'm fat, society is so unfair!"
"Well said, you can go"
I actually mad things worked out for her. Sierra does not deserve any of the good shit that happened to her.
Why not ?
What did she ever do
@@haleighkinser3668 wdym? she totally catfished this guy this entire time while he thought he was dating the "hot popular" girl, she even kissed him under false pretenses, and they she blamed the whole thing on being "ugly" and fat. It's no one's fault she's a bit Chubby and she's not that bad looking. She's is bratty and in no universe would he kiss her after what she put him through, except that he does and it makes no sense.
You do relize you sounds like a complete idiot
She’s not a real person it’s a movie
i’m a teenager who doesn’t get boyfriends and i’m not popular and sometimes i get upset about it, but i don’t blame “the world” or society, i know i’m not even really trying
Same 👏👏
Im not popular therefore it is everyone elses fault
@@billcipher826 specially Stanley’s.
@@brtomassampaio especially Staneley
@@billcipher826 I'm fat but thats my own fault for being lazy and eating junk no one's fault but my own
Honestly Veronica is the best character in this movie...
THANK YOU I thought i was the only one
What about dan
Dynex distortion exactly
I haven't watched this movie, but Dan seems to be the best
No the sassy teacher
This would’ve saved the movie if they went with the “main protagonist you’re not supposed to be rooting for”, Bojack Horseman being a huge prime example of it.
Keep Veronica’s redemption arc but sprinkle in the guilt of what she did in the past so she has always been questioning if she’s even worthy of redemption. While Sierra manipulates her thinking she’s always been and will always be a bad person so what’s the point of her growing anyway. Then people found out she’s been catfishing and starts to avoid her, leaving her to deal with her consequences. Meanwhile Veronica ends up in a toxic friendship with her always acting as Sierras puppet, until it took her a while to leave her.
The "bully" was honestly the best character. Once she asked her ghastly boyfriend "did you like my Hamlet video" I was completely won over. She was so sweet by the end, and her bad side was the result of having an awful mother. Sierra was horrifying.
Yeah Veronica is the best, I can relate to her, my brother used to call me stupid on daily basis
it’s also the most realistic part of the movie
Dan was the most reasonable
Sierra was horrifying because that’s who they made her become. You can only take so much bullying before you start to bend.
@@samanthagray2086 Lots of people get bullied without becoming manipulative sociopaths. Don't blame it on that.
I can't help but feel if the genders were reversed this would be a thriller
It would never see the light of day
I'm sure it would get treated the same way since we have movies like that already.
This actually is a gender flipped version of Cyrano de Bergerac. (Which is not a thriller)
samira Ansari no way that movie is new or from America, Australia or England. Other countries could get away with it
Yeah seems to be the trend these days. In the 80s & 90s there were a lot of movies (e.g. Revenge of the Nerds) that would be a bona fide horror movie about sexual predators, if told from the perspective of the female characters. In the 2000s this seems to have flipped.
“This is sexual assault, that’s what this is” bro yesss wtf how they bouta condone and promote that.
Gash because double standards
unpopular opinion: veronica had a way better character development than the main character
Unpopular? It agreed upon by the entire comment section, myself included.
@@cecilusbrize4679 i went a comment before reading the comment section lol sorry:(
@@匚-k5y
Oh no your good no need to apologize.
Netflix originals are getting weird. I mean they’re breeding us to have unusual insecurities like being tall and normalizing abuse
yeah and they’re also problematic. like y’all want me to believe that a pretty, slim, rich, white girl is the most oppressed person in the school??? and just this whole movie is a mess
And now we have ~Cuties~
@@renameagain5808 And I want to forget about that ~Shit~.
The actress from tall girl does actually have insecurities from being tall, partially stemming from her time as a dancer in dance moms were she was told she was too tall to dance and was basically bullied. I think the movie could have worked if it were about stuff like that and not. gUYs DoNt lIkE mE CaUSe iM ToO tAlL
You've probably never gotten to see a Lifetime movie.
Try The Pregnancy Pact
"He thinks he's kissing the hot girl, and he would never consent to this if he knew he was kissing this quivering mass of hormones and lies."
daaaaamn
Yeah, that line hit way harder than any of the ugly jokes.
That scene made me so incredibly uncomfortable. I can't believe the lack of self-awareness in the writers of some of this bulls***t.
@@siobhanprivitera7432 It's sadly what's considered romantic--for teen movies aimed at girls. If a guy did this, the script would be shut down. Dorky, awkward girl with no self-awareness? Nah, totally fine.
Eli Soares Yeah, that’s sexual assault. If this was 2 guys setting up a girl this way, people would be seriously creeped out.
Loved that
The fact that jaime actually forgave her is still a mystery to me
Because their souls connects
And incredibly unrealistic. They literally just wanted to create this false message that even people viewed as ugly, fat or a loser can get their happened ending and find love. No one would be okay being in a relationship with a person who did all that regardless of what they looked like. That isn't how you get that happy ending sweetie. It should have been more about the character's development and the relationship between her and Veronica.
even if it succeeded, there will be trust issues.
if you do this with someone( boy or girl) he/she will runaway from you and never talk to you again and probably call the police.
@@bloggerblogg5878 and probably a restraining order as well.
Love interest: “I feel like we haven’t yet acknowledged the fact that you lied, catfished, and assaulted me, while also dragging another girl into the whole thing?”
Sierra Burgess, the only loser who matters: “yeah I know, and I totally feel bad about that stuff, but I don’t think that you’ve considered the fact that I feel ugly and that everyone hates me, and tricking you was a way to feel good about myself so… who’s really in the wrong here?”
I actually really like the character arc they gave Veronica. This movie should have really been about her and how, as a bully, developes to be a three dimensional well developed character. It really breaks apart the mean bitch trope every teen movie throws in there.
YES!
can we please contact netflix and tell them to redo the movie in this way cause it’s actual trash rn tbh
Incognito Burrito yea veronica had really good character development
Incognito Burrito and to that a dynamic story was hoped to be born but the reality of it all is that the creator, is infertile
@@californiapoppy OMG I love Legally Blonde.
her friend dan is the only relatable and lovable character in the movie
Jay lemiere And the teacher IMO, but yeah, Dan is the voice of reason and flabbergasted audiences everywhere.
Dan doesn't deserve her tbh
I'm addicted to tea nobody deserves her
I know, Dan is the only one with an ounce of common sense in this movie. He's really a better friend to Sierra than she deserves!
Laughs in veronica, Someone who's physically incapable of doing anything wrong, Like, She tries to be a bitch by giving Sierra phone number to (that guy that i do not remember the name) but it all works out at the end, Sierra is a fucking walking hair dot
I hate Sierra so much at the end and I fell in love with Veronica. Didn't expect that lol.
What why wouldn't you? She's hotter than Emma Watson.
Yeees
My gay ass wanted to throw some hands when it came to Sierra’s stupid “revenge” on Veronica when she didn’t even try to ask about it??? Sierra became such a petty b and Veronica was really making some progress
that's because Veronica actually had a character arc. She grew as a person by the end of the movie while Sierra remained a self-pitying brat.
It's not because she's hot it's because she's a good person and sierra is shit
The sad part is that the mean girl has an infinitely more interesting character arc, she's a surprisingly talented actor, she's got charisma. Honestly, the editing is pretty good, the cinematography is fine and it seems like the directing was pretty damn good. The writing is just awful which is such a shame because it looks like a lot of people took this movie seriously and they genuinely put in the effort. So sad
Tired of the Black sidekick friend in these movies Lol
Me too
They’re also the only sane one in the movie, like bruh
Count Macula LITERALLY EVERY SINGLE MOVIE
And if the main character is black, the movie is 100% about their race. At least in sex education they gave Eric a good backstory
@@agataaaaaa3158 right, they treat the "black best friend" just like the "gay best friend" its annoying they are people, not props. Give them backstory or SOMETHING goodness
Raise your hand if you'd rather have a film about Veronica! ✋
(o-o)^ yes please
yes pls
Titled "Veronica is Not a Looser"
Nah I like this because it makes her see really fucking stupid and embarrassing
✋
It’s hard to loose weight but being over weight isn’t a excuse to catfish and manipulate people
its really not hard to lose weight. thats just an excuse people use because they want to keep eating
Graeme Evans kinda true, diet and exercise take work but it’s still doable so it’s not an excuse
@@ge2719 It's certainly not _easy_ to lose weight, especially if you can't wrap your head around the fact that you got bloated with excess adipose by a long sequence of poor life choices that can't be resolved with a minimum of effort.
I've found the best successes come from staying away from telling them to lose weight, and instead coaching them on how to eat healthier and exercise. Losing weight seems like a good goal, but it's really not - too many things can go fucky, and you're not necessarily getting healthier. You're stopping further damage, sure, but that's not the same thing.
@@stormisuedonym4599 all losing weight requires is to not eat as much. it literally requires not doing something.
i reached 210lbs and couldnt blame it on muscle mass fromt he gym any more. so i lost 45lbs in 2 months. it was easy. i just had to eat less, drink plenty of water, make sure to take multivitamins as well if you ant to make sure you dont get deficient in anything. anyone who says losing weight is hard doesnt actually want to lose weight. they want to pretend like they do and then keep eating.
Graeme Evans you need to exercise and eat healthy but Starving yourself is detrimental and it’s very unhealthy to lose more than 2 pounds a week, so yes it hard to put in a effort to be healthy especially when your starting at a heavier weight
"your name is.....shit pizza?" wins the award for best line in the movie
I feel bad for Sierra's friend, he constantly tries to tell her to do the right thing and she doesn't listen so he's in on the hellish ride, he was honestly the only person in this movie with a decent opinion about the situations and the pretty much the voice of reason
(Edit: holy shit I never got this many likes thx m8s)
He probably had feelings for her too, but good thing he saw how manipulative she was and didnt ask her out.
he probably liked her, but after seeing how shit of human being she is, he said naw I'm going find actual nice girl, not this piece of shit
Moth nibba Lmao ur name
@@TheSergio1021 I'm pretty sure he was gay
@@Annabel434 I assumed that as well. The self-deprecating fat girls in teen movies almost always have a gay best friend.
I hate how she can't accept any responsibility without playing the victim
welcome, it's 2019
Most likely that summed up every feminist in the West right now.
Social media and today's society are creating a generation of sociopaths.
@@LostNbound they are psychopathic. they are taught to get a thrill out of their hypocritical and abusive behaviors to each other while answering to vapid identity politics. Sociopaths don't get the same kind of gratification that drives most of social justice that most are being taught to cultivate heavily while being sensitive snowflakes about everything.
@@Quandry1 Ah. I've never taken the time to go into in-depth reading as to the difference between them. Most things say it's hard to tell the difference. Need to look it up since my last gf was such a cunt she had to be one of the two.
shes not even ugly. shes literally just an average looking girl
I think the actress actually looks really beautiful. the character is absolutely horrendous, though.
Yes like Barb from stranger things, what an icon
It's netflix, everyone has a 1000 percent more attractive filter
@@lennon1913 YES! The actress actually has pictures where she's styled well and has some nice makeup and she actually looks cute. It's just this movie trying to make her look "Hollywood homely" and excusing her terrible behavior because "welp I'm not attractive so let's assault a boy".
well um she's kinda chubby and she's a little lower than average..?
Sierra: "Don´t... don´t die before then"
CR: "So that he can die inside the moment he sees you?"
Damn
The worst thing is that she's not even that bad-looking. She's not that fat. She looks like probably 80% of people around me and how I look myself. I'm not ugly, that's first, and even if I was, I wouldn't try to play victim out of it and try to excuse my every mistake by it.
@Charlie Harpham that's the point! She looks okay, idk why they're trying to make a fuss out of her appearance.
maybe its her style of clothing because well........ its not the best
i think she’s pretty. like. what am i then if she’s ugly?
@@anna84259 she's "movie ugly" I guess.
But yeah I think she's pretty. Def not ugly lol.
The actress is really pretty.. but platforms like Netflix just have an unrealistic beauty standard..
Sierra’s “burn” about Quasimodo reeks of internet smartmen commenting “well actually” statements in a TH-cam comment section
Well actually the burn was more like an explanation to make the bully feel belittled by her "genius" on explaining the literal meaning of a book written hundreds of years beforehand
While also making herself look a thousand times worse because why would she help the person out with calling herself someone who looks way worse than Frodo lol
@@Olsens13 oh yeah big brain time
Well actually the internet can’t reek because it literally has no smell
Eh HEM, its pronounced.... "akchuyally"
“You murdered 11 people and you are under arrest”
“I’m fat”
“Sh*t”
"If you want, we could put more lead in your diet."
@@jsb6975.ah.crapbaskets won't that technically make them heavier?
I mean, lead is pretty heavy.
@@crowdemon_archives lol
You ate them
"Bitch you ate them???"
Veronica actually has really good character development, if the movie was about her I think it would have been unironically good
This move is romanticising catfishing, stalker tendencies, manipulation and lying, in addition to sexual harassment. The only reason this movie is popular is because the dude is currently blowing up on social media because she’s hot. This could almost be a horror movie if it was edited slightly differently. Reverse the roles and see if this is as romantic as it’s trying to be.
Incorrect, all you have to do is change the music and it'd be a horror movie
This might be the prequel to misery......maybe....
@Sneaky Snek it would probably be a better movie.
Keith Ollenburg so what about Gone Girl then?
but it's romantic when a girl does it.seriously though that double standard pisses me off. I remember seeing some rom com about a married woman who goes to Europe, has an affair with another guy, and they fall in love. Movie was trying to play it off like everything was okay because she was feeling neglected, and fallowing her heart, but if the movie was about a guy, everyone would have called him out for being a cheating asshole.
I love the line " Do you have any idea of how is to look like this?" Because yeah I do. And I'm still a decent person lol
Damn straight Nezzy~ spitting facts❤
Yeah true...you can't just go on and use ur insecurities as an excuse to do all the terrible things that you want...her personality is wayy uglier than her looks are portrayed to be...and THAT is what makes her a loser.
@@idk-if9zo Testify sister!
She is basically a woman incel
@@hekaterinedragon8776 huh
“She’s been thinking so much about the D, and is about to get an F...”
I-
fucking gold liner right there
13:45
Honestly, though, I feel like this would have been a fine movie if you just removed the love interest and made it about an overweight girl learning to feel confident in herself and a bully learning to be a better person.
Setup: They get assigned to work together on a group project.
The plus-sized girl, who never bothered to take care of or try on her appearance learns how to style her hair, wear more flattering clothing, and the such to make herself look more confident and therefore attractive from the bully girl.
The bully girl learns how to show more empathy, kindness, and be more confident in her personality and intelligence from the plus-sized girl. She learns that she's more than just her looks, and that she doesn't have to be flawless all the time.
It's a cliche plot, but who doesn't love a campy movie every once in awhile? Plus, it's infinitely better than what the actual movie was about.
That sounds like a awesome idea 🤩😊
I would actually watch this
See how fast this movie would get taken down if the genders were swapped
This movie is essentially the play Cyrano de Bergerac (aka Roxanne/#Roxy) with the genders changed, so you can see how well it goes there.
Isn't this basically Fred: The Movie with the genders swapped?
@@GioTheVax Sure, but Cyrano is tragic character from a work of art that is nuanced and has deeper substance
Yeah exactly. The whole tricking someone into kissing someone else thing is rapey af
GioTheVax but in Cyrano de Bergerac he doesn’t sexually assault her and he actually just helps the guy she likes end up with her so she’ll be happy. There’s no selfish intent. The “it’s my words” part is true, but this movie just ruined Cyrano’s character in a really gross way.
sorry but the most annoying thing in this movie is how they have a conversation in band practice. If we did that in orchestra we'd be slaughtered
E.V.Gore oh yeahhhh I remember that and thought exactly the same hahahah 😂💜
E.V.Gore FUCKING HONESTLY
Facts
im actually convinced that every music teacher is a psycho
@@Pikathunderboltt Lol, you would love the movie Whiplash. There is a character in it who is a perfect example of a psycho music teacher. The insane perfectionist Terence Fletcher. And the movie itself is based on a true story.
That whole "Oh I am a insecure teenage girl" thing came out of nowhere.
During the whole film she did not display a single insecurity. That whole scene in the beginning with her mom and the toothpaste on her mouth made me think she did not care about her appearance.
When Veronica would talk bad about her she came back with witty comebacks showed that she was not docile or someone that will be stepped on.
Shay45 Welcome to believable characterization you ignoramus. People in real life aren't 2-dimensional characters that hold one personality throughout an entire movie, and for once this was the movie to show that. People's emotions fluctuate, people that seem nice and easygoing on the outside can hold toxic grudges on the inside that cause them to do things *you* wouldn't normally believe them to do because-guess what genius? *You don't know them*. Sierra as character made you think that she was the type of female protagonist to be strong, witty, sure of herself enough to stand Veronica's constant teasing because THAT'S THE ONLY SIDE SHE WAS WILLING TO SHOW THE AUDIENCE! When she pulled that stunt near the end of leaking Veronica's picture, that showed you all along she wasn't the person everyone ignorantly thought her to be of yet another goodie two shoes female protag trope- she was *herself*. A human being. Which is why I commend the writers of this show for making such a humanistic character. If that idea still doesn't satisfy you, then another way you could have seen it was that Sierra was planned to be an unreliable narrator and fool the audience , have people already forgotten that this plot device still exists?
Yeah she also said she was an 'amazing beast' or something like that
Exactly! It just came from literally no where. They tried to make her the victim.
thats EXACTLY what I thought. Its just made to make teenage emo girls identify with her shittyass
Honestly true, I mean if she's someone who is not confident then she wouldn't be confident enough to stand up for herself. That's what contradicts it really
“And teenage girls are impressionable and stupid”
Me (having been a teenage girl): “…yeah, fair enough.”
The other weird thing about this movie was that they showed her story like it's just Sierra who is overweight or whatever like??? You're telling me that in her entire school she's the only one who is not skinny? Okay sureee
Yes it happens.
Also that in america
My high school only had one over weight person, but we only had 150 students. It was also a different time, when people worked hard to be in shape.
For those who don’t know 20%+ of US teens/kids (it gets worse for adults) are over weight or obese.
yea bc apparently EVERYONE in high school has the perfect models body except for her
I didn't know much about this movie but this genuinely made me sick. Sierra kisses him without him knowing it's her???????? Imagine if the roles were reversed, they wouldn't dare make a movie like that nowadays. Dear god, the double standards! Disgusting.
it's based on a play where the roles are reversed so technically someone did dare
They did dare, it's called revenge of the nerds where a guy has "sex" with a girl when she thinks he's someone else and then has the girl be OKAY with it - that movie is considered a "classic" that people love. Oh and then check out the vampire diaries when a character, Klaus kisses another character, Caroline while in control of her boyfriend's body while she is unaware. Fans LOVED that. It's all disgusting but the roles HAVE been reserved before
GrayPeachyProduction She said nowadays...
@@GrayPeachyProduction 16 Candles!!! I used to LOVE that movie, but it is really bad for that.
Yes, it's especially creepy, that towards the end, when Jamey and Sierra kiss at the dance, he remarks "Have we done this before?", which is supposed to come off as cute, but is instead rather disturbingly creepy, especially when you consider that Sierra kissed him without his consent!😲
As a fat girl who struggled with her self-image all throughout high school.... I absolutely despised this movie. I was so excited to see something interesting, and when the trailer came out I assumed it was going to be fixed halfway through the movie. But the fact that she constantly does shitty and unfair things throughout the whole movie and then gets a happy ending? Sierra isn't deserving of that guy, in fact, Veronica is!!! There's literally a whole show about cat fishing, and they thought this was a good idea?!?! Seeing her blame her appearance for acting out was frustrating especially, because she isn't even ugly. She's just fat. She prided herself on being okay with her appearance that she never took a look at her personality, which was the truly ugly part about her.
nozomommy unfortunately things like this happen sometimes to bad people and the good person doesn’t get a happy ending. I know someone who is over weight and struggled in elementary because kids would pick on her but then she stood up for her self all the time. Sometimes she had malicious intent beyond what others said about her. She was always manipulative and jealous of me that she went on a smearing campaign on me so that no one would like me. Till this day she is still malicious with me. I remember one time she gave a present to a girl who she messed with. Pretending she was her friend, gave her a gift that was a razor and she left a birthday card inside writing a convincing message that she should go kill herself. This evil overweight woman now is happily married with a daughter that she reflects her dreams, trying to prove to the world she is smart by living through her daughters achievements. Even evil people have children.
Hollywood is obsessed with making the 'slightly chubby-but attractive-girl with-sociological-issues' the victim. Its TOTALLY OKAY for her to catfish an attractive guy and get her happy ending, but if Veronica does it- hell brakes loose.
Watch Netflix's Dumplin'. Such a better message :)
@@Ash-hx1jz I've been wondering if it was good or not! Thank you so much I'm totally gonna watch it today!
Afuckinmen sister
3:42 a better comeback to the “Move it Frodo.” Would have been something like “Sure, Golem.”
Her comeback made her seem pretentious while something quick and witty with her leaving would have shown that she doesn’t care what those girls think of her and that she doesn’t feel the need to look good for them, and that she is self assured in herself without their opinion. Just little details like that could have made her a more likeable protagonist (as well as changing major story plots that make her a terrible person)
A movie about a girl with a well-known father, and she's concerned she may not get into the college of her choice.
This is so 2018.
Hell, I’m too stupid to get into any college and I’m ugly, so I don’t feel sorry for her at all.
Ticker Chicken - Thank you, I really needed a laugh tonight.
Even if you get there. There's always the possibility that you can't keep up and you'll be exmatriculated anyway.
I think they're talking about that scandal where celebrity parents are buying their kids places in college so they don't have to take any entrance exams of y'know, actually working for it
@@kayb5966 Yes, that was the joke. Went right over some people's head.
Sometimes I wonder why I bother being witty.
I literally cringed when she kissed him. The whole thing felt wrong, and is the female version of those movies where the guy does nothing but bad things and still gets the girl in the end. No! We really need to stop rewarding these shitty characters. Atleast make the person they get with to be shitty too so it feels fair, kinda like Mr. Big and Carrie on Sex and the City. We all liked Aiden, but she deserved shit such as herself like Big.
Birdy&Coffee yeah thats why I like 500 Days of Summer, it’s realistic.
Yes omg. And I don’t understand how he just forgave her for lying to and manipulating him. I think he should have gotten to know Veronica for who she truly is, and Veronica would have the experience of having a guy like her for more than just her looks. But he’s not going to suddenly be attracted to someone who he didn’t even like in the first place who also tricked him. Doesn’t make sense.
yeh she literally sexually assaulted noah scented mayo and they tried to make it romantic with the music like i-
@@leahskrrr7095 "Noah scented mayo" 🤣
Also are we just not gonna talk about Netflix really misleaded everyone and made it seem like it was a movie about body positivity when in reality it had NOTHING to do with that?
If anything, it's the exact opposite
I think the Riverdale writers wrote this. And all the other movies Noah is in. I have no idea how it passed all the Netflix movie "requirements"
Glorifies catfishing instead
well netfuck is a pedo house of sin so.
Body positivity wasn’t even meant to be about weight, it was meant to be about things you can’t change like scars, stretch marks, disabilities, etc..
this review popped up randomly in my recommended. i’ve never liked this movie, and this vid was very interesting, engaging, and true as hell. but honestly, all the little fat shaming comments were just unnecessary. i know you put that disclaimer in at the beginning saying you’re attacking shannon purser’s ‘character’ but you’re literally attacking her as an actress too. i wouldn’t enjoyed this a whole lot more without those unnecessary digs.
She’s not even fat she’s just a little chubby in actual high school no one cares
It's even funnier because she isn't even ugly. Sure, not the prettiest person but not ugly by a long shot. A wonderful case of "We want to portray a fat and ugly girl but we also only want to cast conventionally pretty people."
@@davejeneef7727 she'd be decent looking if she excercised, dont get me wrong shes not straight up fat but shes somewhere between there and chubby, i feel like saying shes just chubby is kinda an understatement, and its not even the case of "genetic problems" its straight up just a case of poor health
@@throttle_mx4061 Honestly I dont think she needs to lose weight
She’s obese. I don’t think the actress is ugly, but in the movie, they tried their best to make her look the least flattering.
Exactly, no-one in the school cares. My friend is larger than average and I cannot name one time in school someone has mentioned it, or she's mentioned someone mentioning it, or anything of the like.
I think a more fitting ending scene would be watching Sierra brutally murder Veronica in some dank dark basement, then cut her face off and wear it as a mask. Camera pans around to see the dude naked and bloody, chained to the wall with horror in his eyes as Sierra yells at him "DO YOU LOVE ME NOW!". Close up of the terror in his eyes and smash cut to credits with a thumping soundtrack.
She'd probably give him the Annie Wilkes treatment where she kidnaps him, ties him to her bed and breaks his legs so he can't escape. The film would work better if it was horror with Sierra psychotically obsessed with Jamey, stalking him everywhere and flying into a jealous rage when she sees him dating Veronica.
Sierra as a female Leatherface? Scary thought.
BiffTech05 How are you not a professional writer? I would totally watch that movie!
@@mcr5truther because I suck at writing? A good idea only works if you have a good screen writer. I have some experience with comic books which translates pretty well to story boards, but I leave the actual writing to the writers. I'm more of a visual guy.
I- yes 👍
"Do you have any idea what's like being me?"
*is reasonably smart, artistically gifted, daughter of a famous poet and motivational speaker, speaks like 3½ languages, ok looking with clear skin and good hair*
*_sure_*
To her defense, she's a teenage girl. Feeling sorry for yourself no matter how good your life is is kind of a prerequisite for that age 🤭
@@sleepysera im fat and get called a jew 99% of the time and accused of stealing all the time i dont ever care and im in highschool ive never went through these "phases" in my life like what i see in these teen movies where they all go full on cunt to their parents,this is usaully all shoveled down your throat the only relatable teen movie is superbad
@@slackerboy1488 what dickheads, ignore em pal 💪❤️
Ikr? What gets me is that she's actually quite good looking in some shots like dafuq lol
She's also not what would really be called fat by anybody but people pushing fat acceptance or those pushing super skinny eating disorder type figures. both of which have unrealistic views of reality. And that's not even touching the fact that with everything she's got she may not get into the most prestigious universities without a bit of extracarriculars but many universities would not exactly be turning her away either so she'd have a wide pick of schools as long as she has the money to attend.
Sierra's not even ugly. She has the sort of aw-she's-so-soft-and-squishy! kind of cuteness. There's no reason for her to complain.
Justice for my girl Veronica. This movie but from her pov so she's the protagonist and Sierra is the antagonist would be great
Veronica is not a good person either, having family issues is not an excuse to bully others. But I can agree she at least has a better character development.
@@chucho7w739 objectively you're correct, in like real-world application. But considering what we the viewers know about Sierra- XD (Im fucken-Im kidding bullying is bad I know XD)
@@chucho7w739 She doesn't start off as a good person, but she apparently winds up as a sympathetic one.
... Which is more than can be said of the other points of this love triangle.
Chucho 7w7 she was shit for bullying but she was a better person than Sierra
Chucho 7w7 But that’s the perfect character arc. She starts out as a bad person but learns to see the other side and learn how to deal with her bad home life
Moral of the movie: Being an morally bankrupt incel is okay as along as you're a girl.
>morally bankrupt
Im gonna start using this
Either that or "If you're different you deserve and are entitled to everything."
I higly doubt that real incels even exist. Ive never met a person who is incapable of getting a partner. 🤔 People might act stupid on the internet, but how often people act like that irl? 😮
@@ilkkarautio2449 you must not know who Elliot Roger is do you? Look him up
@@HellYeahDude5000 Havent heard of him b4. 🤔 He is obviously insane, not the norm. People are getting weird. 😥
The character is ugly.
The actress isn't. She's actually kind of cute.
I thought she was cute in stranger things. Wait. Do I like glasses?
Honestly she has the same problem most average people have, bad diet. Nothing a physical training programme and some nutritional education can't remedy.
Nothing fundamentally 'ugly' going on.
Of course looking like a real average person makes you ugly on TV/Film.
Exactly.
@@mertylmaz2234 ...is what people say when they see you
@@Raisa-gb4fh are you like 9-10 years old? What is this sentence?