im a machinist, and i have to mention that it is not the machine that assures proper alignment. its the person running the machine, setting everything up and insuring the process is gonna make good parts. the machine does whatever it is told to do.
@NorthwestOutdoorsWithRusty yeah, no prob. you could have the best machines in the world, but if the set-up and process aren't correct, you are not gonna make good parts, and if course, the people make mistakes.
@@reloadingfun You said everything I was gonna say - former manufacturing engineer and gun nut here. This is what QC and SPC are for, but single unit flukes can always sail through unless you're doing 100% QC. Well quess what?? With what any respected can maker charges vs the number of units they ship, they absolutely could do 100% QC but it would cut into their margin slightly so they don't.
I have plans to buy my first suppressor so I have been trying learn as much as I can and this is the first time I have seen anything on this issue. Thanks for sharing as it certainly made me aware of something to be mindful of.
Thanks for this content, I did the same thing with my buddy he's in a different state. I told him as soon as he got the can outta jail and installs it, to physically look down the barrel. I sent him accessories from SiCo the same brand as his can, I had those exact same concerns....it all went well.
He wanted to be able to go to a physical storefront and buy in person. There is a local shop that has suppressors and had the set up to be able to see the different cans and they did the fingerprints digitally right there. After using both of them side by side I would still go with the Banish 30 personally, but I don't want to speak for him.
@@NorthwestOutdoorsWithRusty Thanks, understood. Glad you guys got the issue sorted. The reason I didn't go banish was because SiShop (for me) was a better option. I may end up with one at some point, the list of cans I want is long.
As a new suppressor owner, i didn't know about the rod system to gauge the baffles and end cap. Thanks for this information. And i didn't know Silencer central threads barrels. Quiet rifles should be a more common thing for us shooters/hunters. Thank you
I feel like suppressors make it better for the shooter and those around them. I wish it wasn’t so hard and expensive to get one! Thank you for the feedback. I’m glad it was useful!
I got my second one through silencer central recently and had a rifle sent in a well for threading and it was super easy. They sent the package, I sent it off and received it back in a few weeks.
This is why I love tapered barrels. I’ve been buying silencers for 25+ years and own probably every type of mount and adapter ever devised (well, almost). I now have Cherry Bombs on all my guns (with plan B) that aren’t direct thread. I also try to pick my host weapons that have tapers.
I agree that .22's will foul up a can if you don't clean it. My Banish 30 does open so I can fully clean it. I wouldn't use a .22 on the Nosler can. My friend that owns it has a separate .22 can that can be cleaned. Good insight!
Glad yall figured out the problem. Never heard of a specific adapter for AR vs Bolt gun. Been using DeadAir QD mounts but ran the concentricity rods first bc I was worried about out of spec components. Luckily my gear was perfect, but I always recommend to new suppressor users to run the rod before shooting ensuring nothing “came loose”
Looking at getting my first suppressor soon. In fact I've been eyeing that very same Nosler sup. extremely hard. I hear they sound real nice... Thanks for the the awsome intel on adapters and bore rods! And about Nosler customer service 👍
I'm glad it was helpful! I can't imagine much better customer service than we got from Nosler. Knowing they stand behind their products like that gives you some piece of mind when buying from them.
When I ordered my first silencer (.22 caliber), I wanted to use it on as many of my .22s as I could so, in anticipation of the eventual delivery of my silencer, I had two of my .22LR barrels threaded for it and ordered an adapter for my MP-22 from The Silencer Store. The silencer worked perfectly on everything but my MP-22 which showed a POI shift from bullets grazing the end cap. I reported the problem to the seller and never heard from them. I was able to determine that the adapter's internal and exterior threads were not cut on the same axis so I then ordered an adapter from Silencer Central which worked perfectly.
There are pros and cons to both. Since I talked about silencer central in the video I'll share a link here from silencer shop that talks the pros and cons of each approach. www.silencershop.com/blog/quick-detach-vs-direct-thread-suppressor
poor man's trick: use your cleaning rod and an approximate alignment rod. You have to rotate your barrel to check for consistent sag all the way around. Also, visually check through the breach end with suppressor attached. The rod is the correct way to check, but it really doesn't need to be a purchase item. If you really need to check, your local gunsmith should have alignment rods to check for you.
I bought a used Savage 110 308. It had a brake on it that I replaced with my Thunderbeast 30P-1. I removed the bolt and bore sighted it. Suppressor was centered to the bore (concentric). Fired a shot at 25 yards but nothing was on paper. Tried shooting high, low, left, right, and each corner. Still nothing on paper. Then someone beside me asked why I kept shooting the dirt. I stood up and saw bullet tracks in the grass and dirt just feet in front of me. Then I looked at the front of the suppressor. 😢 When I removed the brake, there was no crush washer, peel washer, or machining marks. The previous owner apparently timed the brake with brute force and stretched the barrel. A buddy chopped it down to 16.5" and now it shoots fine. Still using the suppressor with the end cap strikes. 😅
I did this with a 9mm can put it on my hk sp5. Didn't know until I got home something was wrong when bits fell out. Come to find out it needed a fixed mount. Thankfully I bought from someone with a good warranty. And the manual was a front and back page. It said nothing about the setup being for a pistol.
@NorthwestOutdoorsWithRusty absolutely true. I did research companies. One popular one that had a lot of compliments was dead air. So I stayed away from them.
If the baffles don't come out for cleaning, didn't put 22lr through it. Center-fire rifle cans generally don't need to be cleaned. Center-fire pistol cans need cleaned occasionally. Rimfire needs cleaned constantly.
Ouch man. Glad it was taken care of immediately. I have a few suppressors from different companies and I was able to find on their website for potential issues.
I did a lot of looking after the fact and there is information out there on the potential risks but you have to dig for it. Hopefully this helps a couple people avoid what we went through!
@NorthwestOutdoorsWithRusty definitely appreciate you sharing your pain so others can potentially avoid it. I love mine and they have been a godsend for my younger son, and friends who shoot with me. Not barring the fact should you miss the animal lol it doenst scare them off immediately with a big bang.
You are spot on about not spooking the animal after the shot! I experienced that with my whitetail this year. I hit him solid but he was still on his feet and didn't spook and I was able to get a second shot on him to drop him quickly.
@NorthwestOutdoorsWithRusty last year my nephew had to take 3 shots at a javelina at 280 and with the suppressor was able to get him on the 3rd. This year I missed a cow elk at 180 due to wind but was able to follow up with second shot as the first didn't spook her. On top of no need for hearing protection makes it easier to confirm a hit with the thud.
There's a channel called School of the American Rifle. He gauges everything to make sure it will work properly. It's absolutely critical that you do those things. Buy once, cry once.
That is a tread bushings or reducer bushing. You need to make sure and buy on from a reputable firearms manufacturer or manufacturer suppressor. Most suppressor manufacturers recommend the use of alignment rods. Glad it was taken care of for your friend.
That adapter you showed at the 4:00 mark, I’m willing to bet you got that from silencer central. I don’t have a banish suppressor but I bought that same adapter from them for my thunder beast ultra 9
@@NorthwestOutdoorsWithRustygoing back and watching, I was thinking you were talking about the adapter that you keep on your AR and thought you were talking about the adapter you pulled out of your pocket lol so my comment was irrelevant
When you put a can on a rifle the first time you always put an arbor into the bore and make sure that it clears the can that is the fault of the person who put it on the rifle without understanding that you have to make sure it's clear on every rifle you put it on not just hope that it's clear.
The point of the video is to share that knowledge. If you peel through all the comments it doesn’t seem to be a well known practice so trying to help others learn from the situation.
I guess I got lucky getting really into AKs after shooting AR platform and other typical hunting platform rifles for 2 decades cause you better check barrel concentricity with AKs so that’s luckily something I’m Very used too
I highly recommend new shooters with silencers to buy the correct hub with the right threads for your gun. Dont use thread adapters, theirs hubs for most silencers out there, with a variety of thread pitches.
From what I understand different suppressors have different adapter options. There doesn't seem to be a full universal option yet. I'd be interested to hear what others have found.
Very good point! Trying let others see what can happen when you go that route. Next day delivery can be tempting but in some cases it is very over rated!
That's a different concept I hadn't heard of and honestly hadn't thought of. It would be interesting to see if it made a material difference in sound levels. Obviously ensuring alignment is number one even if you did size up.
@ when I choose any silencer I make sure it’s “hub” compatible and I use rearden mounts on them. I trust their concentricity of the threads and the taper lock makes it lock up surely and doesn’t come loose or carbon lock. I wouldn’t ever buy a silencer with a direct thread only mount. Hub is a must for the back end for me.
@NorthwestOutdoorsWithRusty there are tons of charts out there on which rods for which caliber from their catalog. I ordered 3ft rods and used a chop saw to cut down to 16" rods, and the other half works great for pistols. Just grind to round the ends a little. This could also be done with a dremmel if that is all you have. Dip the ends in enamel paint to color code them if you like. Think my total cost was less than $50 shipped and tax and that covered .22/5.56, 30 cal, 9mm, 45. They work great and have saved me on a few barrels that needed a shim before adding tri lug or plan b. Was a little surprised on how many factory threaded barrels were actually off.
Yes and no. That approach gives you a ballpark idea, but as you move your head and or light as you are looking down with the bolt out it can look aligned or barely out of alignment. When you are needing such tight tolerances I don’t know that I’d trust that method 100%. Definitely a good starting point, but I’d still take it one step further.
In regards to hunting and not having time to put in hearing protection while I'm hunting and an animal pops out, or helping my son when he was lining up on his first deer that had a suppressor on it? Either way, I'd be interested to hear how many people that spend a lot of time hunting put hearing protection in before every shot. I probably use my earing more than any other sense when hunting so I'm never sitting with hearing protection in. The shooting community so interesting to watch. Some guys criticize for having hearing protection on while shooting with a can, others criticize for not. I guess that's just the world we live in these days!
@NorthwestOutdoorsWithRusty heck, I'm terrible about ear pro. It's just the lame excuse I'm criticising. Nothing for you to excuse! Oh, and the use of the word "rocking" You may have been "using" but rocking....nah.
Very important: learned from Omega 300- if you get the DPB from Rearden you MUST use the atlas XL on your can. If you use the standard atlas adapter with DPB the device will contact baffles before seating on device. Standard atlas is fine for single port break or short self timing adapter.
I don’t water down stuff for my son. He rides his bike with no safety equipment, and he shoots centerfire with standard issue earmuffs and safety glasses, no can.
My son has played tackle football since the age of 9 but I want to instill long term good shooting technique. It isn't an ego contest. I don't care if you are a grown 300 lb man, high recoil degrades shooting accuracy, period. My intent is for him to get the highest level of accuracy and the lower the recoil the better it will be. A suppressor is great for that.
Silencer shop was much quicker, and you don't pay for the initial fingerprints. Silencer central ships their cans to your door, fine, but the process of going through Silencer shop was way easier and 8 days faster for my cans.
@@NorthwestOutdoorsWithRusty I had a bad experience with them. Short story is they tried to sell me something I didn’t want, and it was several hundred more than what everyone else was charging. I have a small local shop I buy from that uses Silencer Shop.
No that wasn’t the case. Maybe I’m thinking of “cross threading” differently but all threading screwed together just fine and nothing was forced. I think of cross threading as the threads aren’t aligned and you just use brute force to screw it together against a lot of resistance you are getting. Maybe that’s not what you mean?
Nosler's customer service rocked for you guys. I would not have warranted stupidity. Thread adapters SUCK! especially ones frommAmazon for christ sake. Chinese crap. You are lucky the did what they did. Most companies wont warranty stupid. Alos DO NOT SHOOT 22LR through that can. Just not smart.
I was honestly surprised that they warrantied it but shows how great they are! I agree that you shouldn’t shoot a .22 through a suppressor that can’t be cleaned but the 30 Banish opens up so you can deep clean it.
Looking really doesn’t give you 100% certainty it is aligned. Depending on where your head is it might look aligned or not aligned. When you are talking such tight tolerances that’s a starting point but I wouldn’t rely on that as your only step.
im a machinist, and i have to mention that it is not the machine that assures proper alignment. its the person running the machine, setting everything up and insuring the process is gonna make good parts. the machine does whatever it is told to do.
Good to get the insight of a man that does the work. Thanks for the comment.
@NorthwestOutdoorsWithRusty yeah, no prob. you could have the best machines in the world, but if the set-up and process aren't correct, you are not gonna make good parts, and if course, the people make mistakes.
@@reloadingfun You said everything I was gonna say - former manufacturing engineer and gun nut here. This is what QC and SPC are for, but single unit flukes can always sail through unless you're doing 100% QC. Well quess what?? With what any respected can maker charges vs the number of units they ship, they absolutely could do 100% QC but it would cut into their margin slightly so they don't.
The machine does what it does as long as their isn’t slop in the spindle or ways…
I can second that!
Rule #1 never buy gun parts on Amazon….
Words to live by!!!
Depends on what you’re buying.
@@Chance-ry1hqnever maybe a sling
#Freedumb
As a fellow suppressor owner, I could feel his heart sink after he realized he had a baffle strike with the first shot.
Definitely not what you expect!
I have plans to buy my first suppressor so I have been trying learn as much as I can and this is the first time I have seen anything on this issue. Thanks for sharing as it certainly made me aware of something to be mindful of.
I’m glad it was helpful! Just trying to help others avoid what we went through!
Great information. Thank you for putting this out .
I’m glad it was useful! Trying to let others learn from our mistakes.
Thanks for this content, I did the same thing with my buddy he's in a different state. I told him as soon as he got the can outta jail and installs it, to physically look down the barrel. I sent him accessories from SiCo the same brand as his can, I had those exact same concerns....it all went well.
Glad it worked out!
@@NorthwestOutdoorsWithRusty So was there a reason your buddy didn't go with the same can as you?
He wanted to be able to go to a physical storefront and buy in person. There is a local shop that has suppressors and had the set up to be able to see the different cans and they did the fingerprints digitally right there. After using both of them side by side I would still go with the Banish 30 personally, but I don't want to speak for him.
@@NorthwestOutdoorsWithRusty Thanks, understood. Glad you guys got the issue sorted. The reason I didn't go banish was because SiShop (for me) was a better option. I may end up with one at some point, the list of cans I want is long.
As a new suppressor owner, i didn't know about the rod system to gauge the baffles and end cap. Thanks for this information. And i didn't know Silencer central threads barrels. Quiet rifles should be a more common thing for us shooters/hunters. Thank you
I feel like suppressors make it better for the shooter and those around them. I wish it wasn’t so hard and expensive to get one! Thank you for the feedback. I’m glad it was useful!
I got my second one through silencer central recently and had a rifle sent in a well for threading and it was super easy. They sent the package, I sent it off and received it back in a few weeks.
It was shocking how easy it was to ship it, have them thread it, and send it back. Glad you had a good experience with it as well!
This is why I love tapered barrels. I’ve been buying silencers for 25+ years and own probably every type of mount and adapter ever devised (well, almost). I now have Cherry Bombs on all my guns (with plan B) that aren’t direct thread. I also try to pick my host weapons that have tapers.
I'd never heard of Cherry Bombs so will have to see what they are all about.
You will cause lead issues running rimfire ammo through a centerfire can.
Rimefire cans come apart for cleaning all the crud and lead out
I agree that .22's will foul up a can if you don't clean it. My Banish 30 does open so I can fully clean it. I wouldn't use a .22 on the Nosler can. My friend that owns it has a separate .22 can that can be cleaned. Good insight!
Glad yall figured out the problem. Never heard of a specific adapter for AR vs Bolt gun. Been using DeadAir QD mounts but ran the concentricity rods first bc I was worried about out of spec components. Luckily my gear was perfect, but I always recommend to new suppressor users to run the rod before shooting ensuring nothing “came loose”
Definitely good advice.
For sure 100% have to do a rod check before ever shooting it!!
Looking at getting my first suppressor soon. In fact I've been eyeing that very same Nosler sup. extremely hard. I hear they sound real nice... Thanks for the the awsome intel on adapters and bore rods! And about Nosler customer service 👍
I'm glad it was helpful! I can't imagine much better customer service than we got from Nosler. Knowing they stand behind their products like that gives you some piece of mind when buying from them.
When I ordered my first silencer (.22 caliber), I wanted to use it on as many of my .22s as I could so, in anticipation of the eventual delivery of my silencer, I had two of my .22LR barrels threaded for it and ordered an adapter for my MP-22 from The Silencer Store. The silencer worked perfectly on everything but my MP-22 which showed a POI shift from bullets grazing the end cap. I reported the problem to the seller and never heard from them. I was able to determine that the adapter's internal and exterior threads were not cut on the same axis so I then ordered an adapter from Silencer Central which worked perfectly.
That's a bummer the company didn't stand by their product! This shows the importance of a quality adapter for sure.
I`m not being that guy, but, never use a thread adapter like that. Buy a Hub to whatever you thread your barrel is. Its 50-75$.
There are pros and cons to both. Since I talked about silencer central in the video I'll share a link here from silencer shop that talks the pros and cons of each approach. www.silencershop.com/blog/quick-detach-vs-direct-thread-suppressor
poor man's trick: use your cleaning rod and an approximate alignment rod. You have to rotate your barrel to check for consistent sag all the way around. Also, visually check through the breach end with suppressor attached.
The rod is the correct way to check, but it really doesn't need to be a purchase item. If you really need to check, your local gunsmith should have alignment rods to check for you.
That's a great tip!
Really good info
Thank you very much
Glad it was helpful! Just trying to keep everyone safe out there!
I bought a used Savage 110 308. It had a brake on it that I replaced with my Thunderbeast 30P-1. I removed the bolt and bore sighted it. Suppressor was centered to the bore (concentric). Fired a shot at 25 yards but nothing was on paper. Tried shooting high, low, left, right, and each corner. Still nothing on paper. Then someone beside me asked why I kept shooting the dirt. I stood up and saw bullet tracks in the grass and dirt just feet in front of me. Then I looked at the front of the suppressor. 😢
When I removed the brake, there was no crush washer, peel washer, or machining marks. The previous owner apparently timed the brake with brute force and stretched the barrel. A buddy chopped it down to 16.5" and now it shoots fine. Still using the suppressor with the end cap strikes. 😅
That's crazy! Glad you were still able to make it a functional rifle.
I did this with a 9mm can put it on my hk sp5. Didn't know until I got home something was wrong when bits fell out. Come to find out it needed a fixed mount. Thankfully I bought from someone with a good warranty. And the manual was a front and back page. It said nothing about the setup being for a pistol.
At least we aren't the only ones! You never want to rely on a warranty but when it comes down to it you hope you bought from a reputable company.
@NorthwestOutdoorsWithRusty absolutely true. I did research companies. One popular one that had a lot of compliments was dead air. So I stayed away from them.
Thank you for the great information!
You bet!
Precision Armament thread adapters are the only ones I will use because they cut inside and outside threads at the same time for concentricity.
Good to know they take it to the next level.
If the baffles don't come out for cleaning, didn't put 22lr through it. Center-fire rifle cans generally don't need to be cleaned. Center-fire pistol cans need cleaned occasionally. Rimfire needs cleaned constantly.
Luckily all the baffles come out on the Banish 30, but that is a very good point!
Ouch man. Glad it was taken care of immediately. I have a few suppressors from different companies and I was able to find on their website for potential issues.
I did a lot of looking after the fact and there is information out there on the potential risks but you have to dig for it. Hopefully this helps a couple people avoid what we went through!
@NorthwestOutdoorsWithRusty definitely appreciate you sharing your pain so others can potentially avoid it. I love mine and they have been a godsend for my younger son, and friends who shoot with me. Not barring the fact should you miss the animal lol it doenst scare them off immediately with a big bang.
You are spot on about not spooking the animal after the shot! I experienced that with my whitetail this year. I hit him solid but he was still on his feet and didn't spook and I was able to get a second shot on him to drop him quickly.
@NorthwestOutdoorsWithRusty last year my nephew had to take 3 shots at a javelina at 280 and with the suppressor was able to get him on the 3rd. This year I missed a cow elk at 180 due to wind but was able to follow up with second shot as the first didn't spook her. On top of no need for hearing protection makes it easier to confirm a hit with the thud.
The proof is in the pudding! I wish they weren't so dang expensive, but in the end, how do you put a price tag on your hearing and a successful hunt?
Thank you!!!
Happy to help!
Love my banish 30😊
Hard to go wrong with one!
Getting my first can soon, and this info is very informative!!! Great vid!1
Hopefully it saves you some headache!
Caliber rod not one but two! thumbs up!
Thanks!
There's a channel called School of the American Rifle. He gauges everything to make sure it will work properly. It's absolutely critical that you do those things. Buy once, cry once.
I'll have to check out that channel. Thanks for the tip!
That is a tread bushings or reducer bushing. You need to make sure and buy on from a reputable firearms manufacturer or manufacturer suppressor. Most suppressor manufacturers recommend the use of alignment rods. Glad it was taken care of for your friend.
We learned that the hard way. Hoping others can learn from our mistake! Definitely don’t go cheap on the bushings.
That adapter you showed at the 4:00 mark, I’m willing to bet you got that from silencer central. I don’t have a banish suppressor but I bought that same adapter from them for my thunder beast ultra 9
I think you are probably right. I think order it along with my can.
@@NorthwestOutdoorsWithRustygoing back and watching, I was thinking you were talking about the adapter that you keep on your AR and thought you were talking about the adapter you pulled out of your pocket lol so my comment was irrelevant
Great info. Lesson learned.
Lesson learned for sure! Hoping to save others from the same mess.
When you put a can on a rifle the first time you always put an arbor into the bore and make sure that it clears the can that is the fault of the person who put it on the rifle without understanding that you have to make sure it's clear on every rifle you put it on not just hope that it's clear.
The point of the video is to share that knowledge. If you peel through all the comments it doesn’t seem to be a well known practice so trying to help others learn from the situation.
I guess I got lucky getting really into AKs after shooting AR platform and other typical hunting platform rifles for 2 decades cause you better check barrel concentricity with AKs so that’s luckily something I’m Very used too
Having to do that on those AK's was probably a pain but it creates good habits.
I highly recommend new shooters with silencers to buy the correct hub with the right threads for your gun. Dont use thread adapters, theirs hubs for most silencers out there, with a variety of thread pitches.
From what I understand different suppressors have different adapter options. There doesn't seem to be a full universal option yet. I'd be interested to hear what others have found.
$1000 suppressor, $2000 rifle, I have a great idea let's save a dollar and order an adapter for cheap 😂😂😂
Very good point! Trying let others see what can happen when you go that route. Next day delivery can be tempting but in some cases it is very over rated!
Great update!
Thanks! Very happy with how Nosler handled it.
Very good advice
Thanks for the feedback!
Machined parts cost X amount because machining is expensive or you get results like shown
A good reminder...
to avoid clipping 1 size up!!!!!!!!
That's a different concept I hadn't heard of and honestly hadn't thought of. It would be interesting to see if it made a material difference in sound levels. Obviously ensuring alignment is number one even if you did size up.
Wonder how much a dial indicator would show, obviously the video showed was WAY off round.
Good question. Not totally sure…
Adapters are a bad idea. Pony up and get the correct mount for the can, not a $5.00 adapter.
I think that’s the moral of the story. Just trying to spread the word!
FYI, attachment =s Adapter.
Stacking tolerances with several threads mated isn’t ever gonna be a top choice for me.
What’s your go to adapter?
@ when I choose any silencer I make sure it’s “hub” compatible and I use rearden mounts on them. I trust their concentricity of the threads and the taper lock makes it lock up surely and doesn’t come loose or carbon lock. I wouldn’t ever buy a silencer with a direct thread only mount. Hub is a must for the back end for me.
@ I appreciate the insight! Thanks for sharing.
I made my own alignment rods from McMaster-Carr.
That sounds complicated…. Any details you could share with the class on how you went about it?
@NorthwestOutdoorsWithRusty there are tons of charts out there on which rods for which caliber from their catalog. I ordered 3ft rods and used a chop saw to cut down to 16" rods, and the other half works great for pistols. Just grind to round the ends a little. This could also be done with a dremmel if that is all you have. Dip the ends in enamel paint to color code them if you like. Think my total cost was less than $50 shipped and tax and that covered .22/5.56, 30 cal, 9mm, 45. They work great and have saved me on a few barrels that needed a shim before adding tri lug or plan b. Was a little surprised on how many factory threaded barrels were actually off.
@ this is great info! Thank you for sharing!
Correction @0:54 your suppressor didn't kill any animals. Your rifle did.
Just saying.
I figured that went without saying but apparently I need to be more specific in the future! :) Thank for the feedback.
This is y I use alignment gague. Save you the baffle strick.
Do you have a link you can share so others can check it out?
Or just look down the barrel with the suppressor screwed on!
Yes and no. That approach gives you a ballpark idea, but as you move your head and or light as you are looking down with the bolt out it can look aligned or barely out of alignment. When you are needing such tight tolerances I don’t know that I’d trust that method 100%. Definitely a good starting point, but I’d still take it one step further.
Rock this. Your excuse for not having ear pro is not cool bro.
In regards to hunting and not having time to put in hearing protection while I'm hunting and an animal pops out, or helping my son when he was lining up on his first deer that had a suppressor on it? Either way, I'd be interested to hear how many people that spend a lot of time hunting put hearing protection in before every shot. I probably use my earing more than any other sense when hunting so I'm never sitting with hearing protection in. The shooting community so interesting to watch. Some guys criticize for having hearing protection on while shooting with a can, others criticize for not. I guess that's just the world we live in these days!
@NorthwestOutdoorsWithRusty heck, I'm terrible about ear pro. It's just the lame excuse I'm criticising. Nothing for you to excuse!
Oh, and the use of the word "rocking" You may have been "using" but rocking....nah.
Rearden muzzle breaks and a hub mount for the can. Problem solved
I checked out both. Look like decent options. Thanks for sharing!
Very important: learned from Omega 300- if you get the DPB from Rearden you MUST use the atlas XL on your can. If you use the standard atlas adapter with DPB the device will contact baffles before seating on device. Standard atlas is fine for single port break or short self timing adapter.
* Muzzle BRAKES. (If your muzzle breaks, you're in big trouble.)
Won’t work with nosler cans
@@terickson7933 Good info to have.
A rephrasing of how you harvested your animals. You used a suppressor on your rifle when you harvested your animal.
I guess that's what happens when I just talk without scripting. :)
Hopeful new administration will get rid of the tax stamp!! Make them much more affordable too!!
Wouldn’t that be awesome! If that happens I’d be first in line to pick up a couple more!
I don’t water down stuff for my son. He rides his bike with no safety equipment, and he shoots centerfire with standard issue earmuffs and safety glasses, no can.
My son has played tackle football since the age of 9 but I want to instill long term good shooting technique. It isn't an ego contest. I don't care if you are a grown 300 lb man, high recoil degrades shooting accuracy, period. My intent is for him to get the highest level of accuracy and the lower the recoil the better it will be. A suppressor is great for that.
Definition of a fud right here lol. Supressors especially for hunting are only a benefit
Awesome information thanks
Happy to help!
👍👏👏👏
Friends don’t let friends buy from Silencer Central!
No? What’s the reason and better options?
Side note, that's a sweet Nova.
Silencer shop was much quicker, and you don't pay for the initial fingerprints. Silencer central ships their cans to your door, fine, but the process of going through Silencer shop was way easier and 8 days faster for my cans.
@ good to hear from someone that has experienced both routes. I appreciate the insight.
@@NorthwestOutdoorsWithRusty I had a bad experience with them. Short story is they tried to sell me something I didn’t want, and it was several hundred more than what everyone else was charging. I have a small local shop I buy from that uses Silencer Shop.
So, basically, someone cross-threaded the can bushing during installation. Is that root cause in plain English?
No that wasn’t the case. Maybe I’m thinking of “cross threading” differently but all threading screwed together just fine and nothing was forced. I think of cross threading as the threads aren’t aligned and you just use brute force to screw it together against a lot of resistance you are getting. Maybe that’s not what you mean?
@NorthwestOutdoorsWithRusty that's what I was thinking you were saying. So there was a physical defect in the machining?
@ that’s what looks to be the case here.
Nosler's customer service rocked for you guys. I would not have warranted stupidity. Thread adapters SUCK! especially ones frommAmazon for christ sake. Chinese crap. You are lucky the did what they did. Most companies wont warranty stupid. Alos DO NOT SHOOT 22LR through that can. Just not smart.
I was honestly surprised that they warrantied it but shows how great they are! I agree that you shouldn’t shoot a .22 through a suppressor that can’t be cleaned but the 30 Banish opens up so you can deep clean it.
The result is what you paid for. I am sure you saved a lot of big bucks buying China junk. Nosler did you a huge favor they did not have to do.
It was definitely great of them to warranty that work. I’m right there with ya.
Didn't think to pull the bolt and look? You definitely "helped."
Looking really doesn’t give you 100% certainty it is aligned. Depending on where your head is it might look aligned or not aligned. When you are talking such tight tolerances that’s a starting point but I wouldn’t rely on that as your only step.