I’ve used Mobil 1 extended performance oil and filters since early 2000’s. I’ve had good results with one vehicle purchased new in 2004 running great with almost zero oil consumption (10K mile oci) until and trans issue took it off the road last year with 208,000 on it. With all that said I’m impressed with the performance numbers and filter construction of the premium Pennzoil products. I will be switching over as I use up my reserves of Mobil 1. Thanks for the quality content. I try to make informed decisions based on solid data and these videos are very helpful.
If it's working for you send out a sample and see what you get back and then send out a sample of Pennzoil Platinum Ultra and see what you get back compare that
I switched from using Mobil 1 for decades in my cars to using Pennzoil Ultra Platinum after watching Project Farm’s video testing here on TH-cam. Nice to see this analysis too.
@@lobbyrobby By what he, Project Farm did, is tell me that Penz Ultra is close to Ams oil without the price. Use it in all the cars I take care of for friends and family
@@socalltd Switched from Mobil 1 to Ultra Platinum two years ago. Ultra Platinum has a very good additive package. My ‘17 Camry and ‘19 CX-5 have never run better.
@@ChicagoRob2 couldn’t agree more. I wish more people knew of the changing industry. I hear most people say that Mobil 1 is the best oil despite not being able to give any facts.
MY LIFE STORY OF ENGINE OIL... My first car was a old 1998 Honda accord and I use Valvoline simply because the name sounded nice lol 😆 😅 and the price was reasonable 😅... Never had issue with it. Then I switch to more expensive Royal Purple because it again sounded nice and the color of the oil I'm like WHAAAAT... I was young OK... My second car was a old 2000 Toyota Celica with the Manual Transmission. My first Manual transmission car and the first Manual I learn from. The car had a bad oil burning issue and I had to constantly check the oil level every week to top off, but other then the oil burning the engine actually runs fine mechanically. During this time I use the cheapest brand I could find because I was topping off the oil level constantly every week and was cutting into my wallet, so I went cheap. My third car was a 2006 Toyota 4runner with the 4.7 V8. This time I did my research and did a lot of asking around and most people told me go with Mobil 1 and that it was the best. So I use Mobil 1 on my 4runner for 4 years. I usually do oil change around 4,000 to 5,000 mile mark. But the issue with with Mobil 1 was that when ever I reach that 4,000 to 5,000 mark I feel my engine feeling sluggish and each time I do a oil change I always tell myself "I sure love new oil because the engine just feels so good each time I get new oil" For the longest time I thought that was normal. Then as I got older and got more busy with life I decided to take my 4runner to the shop for oil change instead of doing it myself like I did in the past. I went to the closes location which was Firestone and I notice that they use Pennzoil. Up to that point I've notice Pennzoil but I never use it before so I decided to go went with it. The first time using Pennzoil when I hit that 4,000 to 5,000 miles mark my engine didn't feel sluggish and that suprise me alot. Because with Mobil 1 when ever I get to that 4,000 to 5,000 mark my engine would always feel sluggish but not with Pennzoil. I was really shock because up to that point I thought it was just a normal thing. So I did another round of Pennzoil and again the engine didn't feel sluggish with the Pennzoil when I hit that 4,000-5,000 mile mark. So on the next oil change I went back to Mobil 1 just to see if I'm tripping or not and sure enough once I hit that 4,000 to 5,000 mile mark my engine felt sluggish again with Mobil 1. So ever since then I made the switch to Pennzoil and it have been 4 years of me using Pennzoil. Since then I've brought a Tundra and Pennzoil is all I use for that Tundra. Pennzoil is my brand of choice and I've been using it for 4 years now. And that's my experience with engine oil, literally hands on life experience.
I think Mobil 1s popularity is due to two factors. Mobil 1 is heavily advertised on TV and can be easily found. I see Mobil 1 all over. Most every gas station/convenience store carries it. The membership stores (BJs,. Sam's and Costco) and Walmart offer it at good prices. Mobil 1 was used and recommended by Porsche in the air cooled 911 engines. I'm looking forward to the report on Royal Purple.
1997 4runner at 212K I put new valve cover gaskets on. Mobil 1 from new, 5K oil changes. It looked new. No wear on the lobes. Maybe that's why Mobil 1 is popular, because it works.
Right every one uses the engine different. My old 06 3.7 jeep builds up condensation crap. I don't like the gunk under the cap in winter so always change it at 3k. In the Summer I don't see that nasty crap as much. I've tried having it on for atleast 40 mins. Have it warm up then 25min runs to work but no difference.
@@jimmy1life Make sure to change out your PCV valve.. I think the best thing is to get in the car, start it, check the dash for any lights that say bad things, set the things you want on, and leave... Sitting in the driveway warming it up is not always a good thing.. The sooner you get moving, the sooner the engine with a load on it now, warms up, and the oil temperature takes the longest to warm up to the best temp for it to flow, etc... BMW "M" cars have an oil temp gauge that will not allow you to rev the motor until the oil temperature is at the right degree so that it is flowing to all the parts at their specified pressure..
@@davidberkey1041 yup it does work well. I’ve used in my Odyssey with 10-13k oil change intervals and the used oil analysis from Blackstone always came back perfect.
Mobil 1 has its popularity because of nascar and advertisements. Its a decent oil but i dont see where it does anything different then any oil you change at proper intervals. Proper intervals is the key with any oil i feel
When I switched to using pennzoil platinum in my Camry a couple years ago I noticed that the valve train rattle on startup went away within a few hundred miles of driving. Anecdotal perhaps, but also real results.
I'm happy to see that the oil I picked from day one for my wife's car was a good decision. My truck loves Pennzoil as well. You're the second person to prove how good that oil truly is. Thanks for the work and time!
I think one big takeaway here is the difference in filtration between k&n and fram. The lower filtration and hence more dirt will cause higher wear numbers. I think the comparison would’ve been more scientific if the same filter was used for the same interval.
Always appreciate your content Rich. I used to religiously only use Mobil 1 myself but having a vehicle that took 7 qts of oil, it got quite expensive even doing it myself and thinking only the best for my vehicle because of marketing. Ford Tech Mackuloco (BSG Automotive) recommends only Pennzoil Platinum Ultra Full Synthetic himself.
Look at the video he did on the opened up ford engine in the truck....it was a mobil 1 engine....looked great....clean..no wear on that cam cap he had.....he was saying changing oil on time is the main thing...
MY LIFE STORY OF ENGINE OIL... My first car was a old 1998 Honda accord and I use Valvoline simply because the name sounded nice lol 😆 😅 and the price was reasonable 😅... Never had issue with it. Then I switch to more expensive Royal Purple because it again sounded nice and the color of the oil I'm like WHAAAAT... I was young OK... My second car was a old 2000 Toyota Celica with the Manual Transmission. My first Manual transmission car and the first Manual I learn from. The car had a bad oil burning issue and I had to constantly check the oil level every week to top off, but other then the oil burning the engine actually runs fine mechanically. During this time I use the cheapest brand I could find because I was topping off the oil level constantly every week and was cutting into my wallet, so I went cheap. My third car was a 2006 Toyota 4runner with the 4.7 V8. This time I did my research and did a lot of asking around and most people told me go with Mobil 1 and that it was the best. So I use Mobil 1 on my 4runner for 4 years. I usually do oil change around 4,000 to 5,000 mile mark. But the issue with with Mobil 1 was that when ever I reach that 4,000 to 5,000 mark I feel my engine feeling sluggish and each time I do a oil change I always tell myself "I sure love new oil because the engine just feels so good each time I get new oil" For the longest time I thought that was normal. Then as I got older and got more busy with life I decided to take my 4runner to the shop for oil change instead of doing it myself like I did in the past. I went to the closes location which was Firestone and I notice that they use Pennzoil. Up to that point I've notice Pennzoil but I never use it before so I decided to go went with it. The first time using Pennzoil when I hit that 4,000 to 5,000 miles mark my engine didn't feel sluggish and that suprise me alot. Because with Mobil 1 when ever I get to that 4,000 to 5,000 mark my engine would always feel sluggish but not with Pennzoil. I was really shock because up to that point I thought it was just a normal thing. So I did another round of Pennzoil and again the engine didn't feel sluggish with the Pennzoil when I hit that 4,000-5,000 mile mark. So on the next oil change I went back to Mobil 1 just to see if I'm tripping or not and sure enough once I hit that 4,000 to 5,000 mile mark my engine felt sluggish again with Mobil 1. So ever since then I made the switch to Pennzoil and it have been 4 years of me using Pennzoil. Since then I've brought a Tundra and Pennzoil is all I use for that Tundra. Pennzoil is my brand of choice and I've been using it for 4 years now. And that's my experience with engine oil, literally hands on life experience.
I have always used Mobil in everything I’ve changed the oil in and after watching a lot of your videos I decided to try the pennzoil platinum ultra in my daily (2018 Ford Fusion Hybrid 150K) and wow the difference is crazy car runs smoother starts smoother and after 5k miles the oil is still clean compared to the Mobil would be dark by now.
😅Dark is not trash in the oil. Dark is an addative used to indicate heat cycling so that you can visually see the oil life change. If you were purely driving 70 mph interstates continuously the oil would stay "clean" looking.
The low filtration capability of the K & N type of filter was the biggest reason I never recommended any aftermarket filter kits for the Cummins/Ram's when asked by customers.
I have about 20 gallons of Pennzoil Platinum in my basement, bought out a Pep Boys' entire stock when they were liquidating their retail store's inventory. $16 per 5qt jug! Been good to my S550 Mustang GT so far.
Any good quality API approved oil and good quality filter are adequate for most consumers. Changed regularly, it should protect your engine and not void your warranty. Come to think of it, can you even buy oil in the US that is NOT API approved? A looong time ago you could actually buy recycled oil (NOT API approved).
@@BrianBourgeois- I had no idea that was still available. I haven't been in a dollar store (99 cents store by me) in years, when I was I didn't look at the oil. Thanks
I really enjoyed this. I religiously used Mobil 1 when I had a bmw e46. Mostly because it was the most accessible oil that came in 0W-40. Currently have a 2006 Tacoma with 204k miles and have been using pennzoil platinum. Oil changed every 3k miles. Engine runs flawlessly and is quiet. Haven’t thought of changing brands but I’m interested to see what others you test out!
It's ridiculous to change a synthetic oil that often. One year or 10,000 miles easy. I change mine once a year and my truck has 300,000 miles. when I used regular oil when I was younger i change my hot rod 400 small block 69 Camaro every 5000 miles. It's a waste to do it more often.
@@VROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM Lol. 10k oci kills motors, its been shown first hand from mechanics who usually recommend 5k synthetic changes. 5k for synthetic, 3k for regular Change oil when its dirty and burnt, Id bet at 5k it is
The lab results have seemed to show that Pennzoil Ultra Platinum Castrol Edge GTX are the BEST of the shelf Synthetic oils. A high end FRAM or Wix filter will do. I personally use Amsoil Signature Series and there 25k filter. In reality Amsoil XL is the sweet spot. Right up there with Pennzoil Ultra Platinum , and Castrol Edge GTX . Same price of you have the discount to.
Interesting. I always use the platinum ultra in my 1.6 eco boost escape. I change it every 5-6 months even though its always way under mileage, mainly cause it gets driven on a a lot of shorter trips to work. I can't ever find it anywhere like Walmart in stock and don't want to pay the parts store prices so I just get it off Amazon. And an OEM Mototrcraft filter. I did have an open ended K&N filter for a while that fits surprisingly well in the factory airbox. Sounded cool when you'd start the car and could hear the blow off and turbo some but it got annoying during everyday driving on the road after awhile so I went back to the OEM Motorcraft. Those air filters always crack me up, they look like something from my shop vac.
@@MrFart451 Autozone doesn’t carry the Ultra Platinum line, and they will not order it for you. I live near a flagship store and have discussed this with the general manager at length - autozone corporate doesn’t think Ultra Platinum sells enough or has enough interest for them to carry it.
For where I live in Ontario Canada pennzoil ultra platinum very rarely goes on sale while it seems like Mobil 1 is on sale every other week. Always make sure to buy an extra jug or 2 of ultra platinum when it is. I do find it funny when people say it’s all the same though
I couple months ago I picked up some jugs of ultra platinum from Amazon for $33 CAD. Canadian tire can be hit or miss with Pennzoil ultra platinum products.
Thanks for verifying that I'm using the best of the cheaper synthetics in my vehicle( I consider Pennzoil Ultra Platinum the 2nd best overall oil only 2nd by a little to Amsoil from all the research I've done) Not that I like it but Amsoil is the best but it is so expensive and if you change your oil every 5K like I do it just feels like I'm throwing money away. However, I'm going to put Amsoil Signature series in my Grand Marquis next oil change just to run it one time and see if I notice anything different. I know my Grand Marquis gets 29MPG on the freeway traveling at 79mph as I've tested it multiple times. Will try it in my Tundra too which I've been changing oil every 5K even though the guy with the Million mile Tundra states "maintenance" is key and that he changed his oil every 10,000 miles.....He's on his 2nd Tundra and it has 704,000 mile on the 5.7 Iforce now. I really think Toyota copied aspects of Ford's 4.6 but that's my opinion.
Toyota has a 4.6L too. It is in the LS 460. It would probably be more similar to the DOHC cobra engine. The 3.5L and 5.7L are similar. I also have a Grand Marquis. I always use pp. ON a flat highway I can get 29 -30 on the display if I drive 60 and easy. I have the 2.79 rear.
@@alb12345672 If you are on a freeway where you can do it try increasing your speed and I bet you'll still get that MPG or maybe just a little less. I checked it with my display and also calculated it manually to make sure. Some people can't believe I'm getting that MPG from a V-8.
Love eco beast engines and I believe it’s important to not only change the oil regularly, but use an oil like penzoil platinum to keep the turbos running top notch
Few years ago I had a 09 police vic and ran Shell rotella gas truck 5W20 and it ran poorly with no acceleration But once I put Mobil 1 truck/Suv 5W20 it ran like butter !!!
Pursuant to a 1990’s law suit between Castrol and Mobil 1, courts ruled that group 3 and 4 base oils are synthetic, therefore any oil that contains one or both of those groups, regardless of proportions, can be called synthetic. So as long as Amsoil contains group 3, even if it’s 100% group 3, they can legally call it 100% synthetic. Thus, 100% synthetic and full synthetic are synonymous. Amsoil admitted this in one of their own blogs.
@@FordBossMe “Castrol won the lawsuit and, since then, the industry has defined Group III base oils as, indeed, synthetic. That means, according to accepted industry definitions and practices, an oil is “synthetic” and may be labeled as such provided it uses only Group III, Group IV or Group V base oils in any combination or ratio. The oil could use 90% Group IV and 10% Group III base oil; or, it could use 90% Group III and 10% Group IV base oils. As long as it only uses Groups III, IV or V base oils, it’s a synthetic oil. That being the case, the terms “100% synthetic” and “full synthetic” describe the same thing. They’re synonymous, and an oil marketer can use whichever it prefers provided the oil in the bottle meets the industry description of “synthetic” outlined above.”
Thanks for the report. Honestly been in the industry for around 10 years. Always used mobile one and recommended it. But with that being said I use Pennzoil platinum now. For the price it’s hard to beat. Looking forward to the royal purple stats in the future.
TBN is not a measure of how much of "the additive package is left" whatsoever. I do not know where that idea came from. It is simply a measure of the reserve alkalinity of the oil or in other words reveals its ability to neutralize acids which will corrode things if left to exist without being neutralized. It is thus analogous to alkalinity in a swimming pool. There are several components in the additive package each with a different job (dispersants, detergents, corrosion inhibitors, oxidation inhibitors, anti-foaming agents, VI improvers, anti-wear agents, etc) and a low TBN does not in any way mean that all of them are depleted. However, since motor oils will typically use magnesium and calcium sulphonates, salicylates, and phenates for alkalinity, and these also double as detergents, the detergent level could be being depleted when there is a low TBN. But to suggest that detergents and other items that may be added specifically to enhance alkalinity are "the additive package" is quite incorrect.
I can confirm that using Mobil 1 in my 3.5 Ecoboost SHO makes the engine ticking sound much louder. I know the high pressure fuel pump makes a lot of noise, but using Mobil 1 just makes the engine tick like crazy. Almost sounds kind of like the cam lobes are hitting the buckets with no oil in between at all (even though I've never heard this actually happening, I would imagine it would sound like this if no oil situation ever happened) 😂 I'm sure Mobil 1 didn't cause more wear than other oils. There's a lot more ticking sound with Mobil 1 in all engines I've used Mobil 1 in. You're not the only one that noticed that, It seems that most people think Mobil 1 is loud in their engines. So far, Amsoil and Pennzoil Platinum has been the best with engine noise reduction. With Amsoil, my engines are so so much quieter when I listen to the engine with the hood open, and the noise difference is also noticeable in the cabin. Its amazing how an oil can change the way an engine sounds, even though the oils are the same viscosity, just different brands.
@@pbaker7160 Wrong. I worked in a fast change lube shop and all oils were stored in the same ambient temp. Certain brands were noticeably thinner than others. (same viscosity ratings) I've switch my own and found a significant sound difference.
Thank for providing objective test results for high-end synthetic oils and how such information should be interpreted when making oil choice decisions. You've done a nice job of testing a variety of oil brands as well. Your Royal Purple testing and observations should be interesting as well...
I am curious to see how full synthetic Quaker state holds up... from what I know it has a pretty good additive package in it as well... High moly oil for one.. keep up the testing .. I find this utmost fascinating and interesting.. Love the vids you post..Nothing but honesty and transparency :)
Quaker State makes a good oil. They're owned by Royal Dutch Shell who also owns Penzoil. I have used Quaker State whenever it's on sale at Walmart or other stores. I've also used Shell Rotella and liked that a lot too. But the key is regular oil changes at 5,000 miles. I've done that and have over 300k miles on two cars without issue.
@@christopherhendricks4369 ive read about that ....seems mobil 1 is more slippery...which is a good thing i guess but at the expense of a lil more consumption...cuz when you look at flash point and noack,mobil 1 is one of the top oils.
thank you SO much for these objective analyses of oil/filters, etc. I have a 2021 Subaru Forester with 3 years and only 22,000 miles on it. I am switching to the Penn Platinum ultra based on your suggestions. $23 and change for 5 qts at Amazon right now
I'd like to post a note to folks who like to say "I've used such and such oil 20 years ago in my high performance hot rod toaster, and it worked the best hands down. Not that I tried any other oil, but it was definitely the best!" Oil formulations change fairly significantly over time, even if the branding doesn't. We are now at API SP and ILSAC GF-6 standard with modern oils. The standard in 2000 was SJ, which had significantly different requirements for viscosity, additives and detergents than SP. Base oils have also changed slightly in that timeframe. The reason this testing is useful is because the 3 year old youtube videos doing a similar thing, are now obsolete. SN, which was current pre-2020 and SP have a fairly large difference in requirements. There isn't much for the halfway SN plus and SP though. As a service advisor, I would regularly run into conversations of motor oil brand bias, using examples from the early 1980s. To which I would simply ignore the other party, or just stare blankly. Old men come in two flavors: Those that know a whole lot, and those that think they know a whole lot. Don't be the second old man.
Absolutely agree When I was on the phone tonight with a MMO engineer we spoke about stuff like this Today's oils are nothing like they were 20yrs ago and completely different
Correct! I remember many years ago when Pennzoil was what we used in our gasoline tractors and push mowers because it was cheap and good enough for those low RPM motors. Today it's and one of the best. I use it in my F150 and also my Grand Marq with 162,000 miles that still purrs like a kitten
Yes, I try to tell the sheeps that oil formulations change every few years and the Pennzoil Platinum Ultra vs Amsoil SS test is no long applicable as it has already gone through at least x1 reformulation. New testing is required for comparison. The sheeps don’t listen and just believe what they already made their mind up with rather than actual updated data. One thing is certain is that despite reformulation, Amsoil is always top 3 oil
@@LoveLikeaHurricane The last time Project Farm tested these synthetic oils, the top three were, in order, Amsoil Signature, Red Line, Pennzoil Ultra Platinum.
I don't personally care what you run Im.jot judging you for that, I'm showing you my results....what don't you get about that? I understand there are fan boys out there and I understand no matter what you tell someone they will no matter what do what they feel is best I don't need to year every person state that they will do this or that I'm here to educate and that's it and build relationships with people and learn Do you boo
Test is bunk, different change intervals due to anecdotal evidence. Different air filters which apparently caused the mobil 1 to protect worse. You can’t gather much from this. Silicon being higher in the mobil 1 (IF it really is due to the filter) could definitely cause more wear, meaning more metals in the oil. Maybe the new pennzoil is better, who knows. Although i think projectfarm compared mobil 1 and the pennzoil plat and if memory serves the mobil 1 was better during the wear test and flow test, or at least very close. This isn’t some kind of personal attack, I’m just saying.
I switched to Pennzoil Ultra Platinum after Project Farm's test. The 5qt (1.25gal) was on Amz in 2020, for $21.99, free shipping. Bought two. Should have bought more as this was likely a seller typo, and FBA. Now the same 1.25 gal product (5W-30), is $64.99 from that same seller. And good luck finding this oil locally. Wally World doesn't sell it. Advance, and AutoZone don't carry it either. Good video.
I use PUP 5w30 in my 18 Subaru WRX wrx with great results. Have since the car was new on its very first oil change. Now at 102k miles. I used to buy it locally special ordered for like 75 bucks and i think that was for 6 quarts until i started to use amazon. The thing with amazon is the prices on that oil change drastically from time to time. Sometimes its $50 sometimes its 60 and sometimes its 65 for a 3 pack of 5 quart bottles. I just ordered some at the last price. You have to find it when its down and stock up then. Been doing this since about 2019. Keep an open eye and be willing to spend the $ when available at the lower prices.
Very nice ... an accurate honest report..... still foolish Cummins owners are still using those expensive "K" filters which dump more sand into their engines.. MUST BE AN iQ PROBLEM with cummins diesel owners?
Great results Rich. This is why I've always used Pennzoil UP in all my vehicles. I currently us UP in my '20 Lariat 3.5 EB as well with a Motorcraft oil filter. I may need to switch the oil filter to a Fram our Purolator One oil filter. Any recommendations on oil filters for the 3.5 EB?
Everyone argues about what oil is best. I say just change your damn oil every 3000 miles to 5 tops. Especially if you have a turbo. All oils are really good these days.
Love the comparison. I personally love Valvoline (Napa brand oil). Never had problems using there oil & there oil filters or ford filters & oil. How’s your Lincoln running on the Royal purple?
I’ve only gotten my 21 civic oil changes at the dealer. Have been using ultra platinum last two oil changes. If I ever switch again I’d only considered Castrol edge or valvoline advanced. My question is… is it true that over time ultra platinum potentially can mess up the Catalytic converter? I read over time it can and a few other things although it performs well it states it can potentially do that not sure how or why and if so would Castrol edge be a good substitute
I just recently made the switch from Mobil 1 5w20 Annual Protection to Pennzoil Platinum, and immediately noticed how much thicker the Pennzoil was right out of the bottle. My 4.6L Triton seems to like it, so I will be sticking with it provided they keep the formula the same.
@@johnsmith3735 Thicker is not good at all. The whole point of these newer oils is that they have to be thin to lubricate modern engine designs properly.
Rich what's your personal opinion on KN Engine oil filters? A mechanic once told me that he didn't recommend KN engine air filter but the KN engine oil filters were OK. I dislike the fact that KN does not disclose their micron rating on thier oil filters. I called KN about a year ago and ask them about thier engine oil filter micron rating and KN told me they don't disclose that information 🤔. Maybe cause they know the micron rating horrible??
I've been using Mobil oils for over 20 years with great results while my dad's been using Pennzoil brand far longer with great results. So, from what I've experienced, they both are very good brands. That is only if you practice proper preventive maintenance intervals on what you're driving. On a side note, I've never went over 10k miles or over one year between oil changes with full synthetic no matter what ANY oil company says
The fact of the matter is if it all comes down to what you're paying for you are definitely getting way more with the Pennzoil products than the mobil Look at my most recent testing that I've been releasing over the last couple weeks mobile doesn't even come in middle of the pack with any of them really
The additive package on the extended performance is much less than most just regular full synthetic oils it doesn't make any sense why people would pay that amount of money for something that they're not really getting that much of and whenever you do the noack volatility test the mobile doesn't even test that well
I was a little let down that the results weren't comparable. If both oils had been run with a standard filter, then we could know which differences were from oil formulation. But as it stands, once again it has been shown that gauze filters don't filter as thoroughly as oem style paper filters. No new ground broken here.. Thank you for the video and I do enjoy your content.
I don't understand how you guys want anything more than what I've given you it's like you guys want other people to give you the content and then they give it to you and then people still find reasons to complain about it I'm the one paying for everything none of you guys are offering the extra help to pay for this stuff it's on me but yet you want more and want more and want more
@@FordBossMe Sorry not meant as a criticism, perhaps it came across as such, unfortunately. I'm not complaining, nor expecting you to rerun your tests. I enjoy your logical thorough approach to all things automotive. As always this was very interesting and it seems that penzoil and mobile one are common, affordable, oils that people have to choose between. I really meant the thank you for your videos and I do enjoy your content.
@@ddanbudy sorry it's been a rough month and it's been a rough couple months I've been doing so much for people and trying to give so much and I'm getting very little in returns was very exhausting and now I'm home sick on top of it still trying to help people from home
@@FordBossMe I hope that you feel better soon. I would think that this is a challenging platform to deal with, especially when you are not at your peak and as they say, everyone is a critic. The less qualified, the more critical..
In my 2006 Acura TSX mobil 1 is a bit noisy particularly on cold start up right after the oil passes 2000 miles ish in service. Initially I got a bit paranoid but using it for 5 years i just decided to live with it. Since i don't need to add oil during the 5000 mile OCI consistently and I recently pulled the valve cover to check valve lash and change gasket, the valve train was clean with no varnish.
One thing I would of liked to of seen is VOA's of all oils that your trying for a base to compare from. From memory some PUP lines have a tendency to pull copper out of things - oil coolers/heat exchangers etc. Base silicon levels etc need to be known before comparing one oil to another. Cheers
More testing requires more money and unless more subscribers come on or people are going to start jumping on the Discord I'm not putting any more money into things that I have to sew start encouraging people to join the patreon or something because everything that you guys wants cost additional money
My only issue is Mobil 1 has the dexos gen 3 certification and the Ultra Platinum doesn't. This could be important for DI/Turbo engines. But Penzoil seems to be winning in a lot of shootouts.
I put a purolator boss on my Honda accord. With such a high mileage protection at 20k I try to change oil at every 5-6k miles. Could you technically reuse the filter or just pay the $12 for new oil filter?
I do 3,000 mile interval oil changes on my car. So personally I go with what's cheaper one. If you go longer on a single oil change maybe the fact the oil wears less fast would be a bigger factor.
My buddy used Mobil One in his 1996 GMC Sierra since the very first oil change, it has 540,000 miles on the factory original 5.7 V8. Mobile one is the factory fill for many car brands, Corvette, older Camaro SS, BMW, vipers etc.. Why not Pennzoil???
Those old GMs are tough and will run forever anyway. I had a ‘93 Chevy 5.7 V8 that ran great and used no oil despite 260,000 hard miles and oil changes with whatever was laying around. Maintenance was sometimes neglected for long periods. I bought it “used up,” and spent a small fortune fixing it up. The rest of the pickup was broken and I sent it to the auction to get rid of it in 2009. Ferrari, Mazerati and gas-powered Mopars have all been factory filled with Pennzoil for several years. Factory fill or certification like GM Dexos isn’t anymore than a marketing strategy and doesn’t really impress me.
I use Mobil 1, 0w40, Euro blend, with a OEM Mann oil Filter. I do 5000 mile oil changes. I also use OEM Mann air filters. My VW 2.5L 5cyl Gas, has 283,000+ on it. I enjoy this testing series, but... ( there's always a but, right? ) I think it would be better if you used the same filters, and the same intervals to show more accurate testing results. I feel that in this comparison, there are too many variables to get a true comparative results.
I don't care what you do really I didn't ask for anybody to just stop doing what they were doing because of my video furthermore for anybody to think that by me using a different oil filter it put a variable in place or air filter I put some kind of variable in place that's silly it's like why even talk about it ...... why even have a conversation with somebody that thinks that way nothing against you but it just seems like at that point you're wasting your time
@@FordBossMe Ok. Everyone has an opinion. Like I said, I enjoy your content. I understand my car is a bit different. The reason I only use Mann oil filters is because I have tried several other cartridge type filters. My little 2.5L 5cyl tends to have pretty high oil pressure. I do not have a gauge, but the oil filters branded other than Mann, tend to get sucked into an hourglass shape in about 2500 miles. The Mann does not in 5000 miles. My oil comes out in 5000 miles a bit browner than the honey color it goes in, but is still transparent enough to see the cross hatching on the dipstick. I think the Mann does a great job. At 228,500 miles, I needed to have the valve cover replaced due to the PCV leaking. I got to see the top of the engine under the valve cover, and it looked clean from carbon buildup or any sludge. Being consistent in when testing oils and filters is, in my opinion, very necessary. If you are testing oils, using the same filters and intervals, will yield a true test of the different oils. When testing filters, using the same oil and intervals, will truly test the different filters. That is just common sense and logical. . Since testing the different oils is important to you or me, it's never a "waste of time" to do due diligence on being consistent.
Do you think switching back and forth a high mileage oil additive to pennzoil ultra will be detrimental to the seal and cause a leak? I've been running mobil 1 high mileage for years. Heard it's better to just stick with it than switch. Any truth to that?
I've been running my k&N in my 2015 Nissan frontier... Sounds like I need to change back to OE? Or just find a quality cold air intake? I use Pennzoil platinum with wix every 3k miles want to make the engine last long as possible
On the subject of sending stuff out to labs... Do you have any thoughts on sending injectors out to have them professionally cleaned and tested before/after? Would your answer change if the vehicle in question was from a municipal fleet that might be getting lowest-bid gasoline that might lack cleaners/additives? Sent out some injectors once from a 15-year-old CVPI with 120,000 miles and when they came back after cleaning/testing the car seemed a lot more responsive. Wasn't all that expensive, either.
I been using pennzoil platinum high mileage for almost a year and I love it , is it any closer to the ultra ?? Or far from comparison ?? Thanks again for your time filming this video 👍🏼
Boosted subarus will eat mobil one oil and spin rod bearings so deisel rotella t6 all day in my sti. Now I only run mobile 1 in my 03 cobra for the 16 years I've owned this and pushed this car to its limits zero engine issues runs like new. Use what works. Mobile 1 and rotella are cheap like under $20 when on sale.
I mean you make it very clear that you are Mobil 1 Fanboy for certain reasons and I get that I'm not trying to take that away from you I'm not sure why you keep pushing that we that have read your message already know that and I don't mean that disrespectfully I'm just saying I don't understand why you have this repeating process of trying to put that in my mind that you're stuck on mobile one for your Mustang and you're never going to come off of that I personally don't care I'm happy that you have the Mustang and I'm happy that you have something that you like but I really don't give a s*** at the end of the day will you use as long as you're taking care of your s***
Thanks for the info Rich. I use Pennzoil Ultra Platinum with the Fram Ultra Synthetic filter in my 2020 Mazda CX-5 Signature. It has the turbo. My OCI's to date have been about every 2500 miles as most of my driving is short trips. This information confirms to me that I have made the right choice with my oil and filter. Keep up the great work!
I have an 05 Malibu V6 (pushrod) that I’ve used Mobil 1 in since 44k miles, I now have 287k miles. Never any issue with the oil. I make this comment because you said the Pennzoil UP made the engine run quieter. I’ll give it a shot. If it makes my engine quieter that alone would make me switch to Pennzoil full time. I don’t think it would hurt the engine switching brands does anyone else?
That's the Gm 3.5 engine found in other applications as well. My 06 G-6 GT has the same engine at almost 110k miles and running beautifully. Your mileage is impressive! I've switched synthetic oils with it from Valvoline to Quaker State without a problem over several years. I have some Pennzoil Platinum synthetic stashed for the next oil change, in any case :)
Interesting but you started out by saying the air filter allowed higher dirt infiltration, so it stands to reason that the extra dirt in the intake would cause higher levels of iron. Since the piston rings and cylinder walls are both iron mixed with dirt grit.
I've been using the Pennzoil Platinum (not ultra) in my 2016 Frontier 4L since it was new, and I'm pleased with the performance. The oil and filter (Purolator One) has been changed at about 7,000 miles, and the engine has never used any oil between changes. Mileage is between 19 and 21 mpg consistently, and the engine is alway smooth and quiet. I may change to the Ultra after seeing this video.
According to Blackstone Labs, there is no significant difference between leading engine oils. The key is proper interval oil changes. My farmer neighbor has a 2001 Tundra V8 with 436,000 miles. At oil change time, he buys the cheapest on sale oil brand, switching brands at every oil change. He uses the same weight oil consistently, but only buys conventional dinosaur oil. He has never used full synthetic. He has never changed the differential oil, and has never changed the transmission oil. He pulls 5 tons daily, including irrigation equipment, cotton and peanut trailers, and water wagons. He has not spent one penny on that truck except on regular maintenance such as tires, batteries, oil changes etc. He also has a John Deere 7800 tractor with 33,000 hours (most farm tractors last 5,000 to 10,000 hours). Same thing, uses the brand of diesel oil on sale, and switches brand every oil change. He laughs at those who claim one oil brand is better than the other.
After years of checking oil debates, it seems to be the Penzoil platinum series is a better oil. I personally been using Mobile products for many years without any issues. I had the same oil tests on my 2012 wrangler after a couple years of extended oil changes and the results were good. I’m sticking with Mobile beings it’s been good all while acknowledging the results of Penzoil. I tore apart an 05 5.3 with 250 sum odd miles due to a cracked head that had run conventional Penzoil straight 30w and it was clean with no signs of wear. I did suggest getting away from the straight weight and run the recommended weight. I suggested Penzoil platinum being its of high quality and her husband is a Penzoil guy. Routine maintenance based on your driving is by far what’s most important when keeping things running good for a long time
In my opinion it's just a gimmick. Is there any evidence anywhere that suggests it's better than any other common off the shelf oil? I have seen oil testing that had this oil as middle of the road when it came to wear protection. This tells me the only things special about it is color and smell which does nothing to prevent wear.
I have a 2006 Escalade and it had start up rattle. Some called it piston slap and it was normal. One day I decided to experiment. Was it the oil? The short answer is no it wasn’t the oil. It was the high-efficiency filter. So I stopped using them. I’m thinking a quieter start up with better lubrication is more valuable than a few specs of carbon floating in the oil.
Owner’s manual says use a synthetic blend every 10 K miles for your oil change. I figure using a full synthetic is much better and less than 10 K miles. Maybe 7-8 K miles intervals
There is the value issue that needs addressed too. Amzoil is about $14 per quart while Mobil 1 is about $6 per quart, both 100% synthetic oils. At what point do folks eliminate value for the best product vs. most value in performance for the cost?
Amsoil is 100% synthetic Mobil is not 100% synthetic It has to say 100% on the bottle and mobil does not It's a marketing gimmick by mobil and most oil companies - Amsoil is the the only real full synthetic that's why the bottle is labeled 100% and mobil just says full synthetic
@@FordBossMe Would you say Pennzoil is equivalent to 100% synthetic because it is made from natural gas ,not crude oil ? Thamks in advance for your thoughts
I’ve used Mobil 1 extended performance oil and filters since early 2000’s. I’ve had good results with one vehicle purchased new in 2004 running great with almost zero oil consumption (10K mile oci) until and trans issue took it off the road last year with 208,000 on it.
With all that said I’m impressed with the performance numbers and filter construction of the premium Pennzoil products. I will be switching over as I use up my reserves of Mobil 1. Thanks for the quality content. I try to make informed decisions based on solid data and these videos are very helpful.
If it's working for you send out a sample and see what you get back and then send out a sample of Pennzoil Platinum Ultra and see what you get back
compare that
That should help you make your choice of what you're going to do
As for me and then customers I service, Pennzoil Ultra Platinum or Pennzoil Full Synthetic High Mileage. Wix or Wix XP engine oil filters. Great post!
I switched from using Mobil 1 for decades in my cars to using Pennzoil Ultra Platinum after watching Project Farm’s video testing here on TH-cam. Nice to see this analysis too.
I think I'm going to do the same. I've been running Mobil 1 for probably 20 years
@@lobbyrobby By what he, Project Farm did, is tell me that Penz Ultra is close to Ams oil without the price. Use it in all the cars I take care of for friends and family
@@socalltd Switched from Mobil 1 to Ultra Platinum two years ago. Ultra Platinum has a very good additive package. My ‘17 Camry and ‘19 CX-5 have never run better.
@@ChicagoRob2 couldn’t agree more. I wish more people knew of the changing industry. I hear most people say that Mobil 1 is the best oil despite not being able to give any facts.
MY LIFE STORY OF ENGINE OIL...
My first car was a old 1998 Honda accord and I use Valvoline simply because the name sounded nice lol 😆 😅 and the price was reasonable 😅...
Never had issue with it.
Then I switch to more expensive Royal Purple because it again sounded nice and the color of the oil I'm like WHAAAAT...
I was young OK...
My second car was a old 2000 Toyota Celica with the Manual Transmission.
My first Manual transmission car and the first Manual I learn from.
The car had a bad oil burning issue and I had to constantly check the oil level every week to top off, but other then the oil burning the engine actually runs fine mechanically.
During this time I use the cheapest brand I could find because I was topping off the oil level constantly every week and was cutting into my wallet, so I went cheap.
My third car was a 2006 Toyota 4runner with the 4.7 V8.
This time I did my research and did a lot of asking around and most people told me go with Mobil 1 and that it was the best.
So I use Mobil 1 on my 4runner for 4 years.
I usually do oil change around 4,000 to 5,000 mile mark.
But the issue with with Mobil 1 was that when ever I reach that 4,000 to 5,000 mark I feel my engine feeling sluggish and each time I do a oil change I always tell myself "I sure love new oil because the engine just feels so good each time I get new oil"
For the longest time I thought that was normal.
Then as I got older and got more busy with life I decided to take my 4runner to the shop for oil change instead of doing it myself like I did in the past.
I went to the closes location which was Firestone and I notice that they use Pennzoil.
Up to that point I've notice Pennzoil but I never use it before so I decided to go went with it.
The first time using Pennzoil when I hit that 4,000 to 5,000 miles mark my engine didn't feel sluggish and that suprise me alot.
Because with Mobil 1 when ever I get to that 4,000 to 5,000 mark my engine would always feel sluggish but not with Pennzoil.
I was really shock because up to that point I thought it was just a normal thing.
So I did another round of Pennzoil and again the engine didn't feel sluggish with the Pennzoil when I hit that 4,000-5,000 mile mark.
So on the next oil change I went back to Mobil 1 just to see if I'm tripping or not and sure enough once I hit that 4,000 to 5,000 mile mark my engine felt sluggish again with Mobil 1.
So ever since then I made the switch to Pennzoil and it have been 4 years of me using Pennzoil.
Since then I've brought a Tundra and Pennzoil is all I use for that Tundra.
Pennzoil is my brand of choice and I've been using it for 4 years now.
And that's my experience with engine oil, literally hands on life experience.
Honest no bullshit content. Very rare these days, thanks for the research!
I am learning a lot from your videos. Thanks Boss
I think Mobil 1s popularity is due to two factors. Mobil 1 is heavily advertised on TV and can be easily found. I see Mobil 1 all over. Most every gas station/convenience store carries it. The membership stores (BJs,. Sam's and Costco) and Walmart offer it at good prices. Mobil 1 was used and recommended by Porsche in the air cooled 911 engines. I'm looking forward to the report on Royal Purple.
1997 4runner at 212K I put new valve cover gaskets on. Mobil 1 from new, 5K oil changes. It looked new. No wear on the lobes. Maybe that's why Mobil 1 is popular, because it works.
Right every one uses the engine different. My old 06 3.7 jeep builds up condensation crap. I don't like the gunk under the cap in winter so always change it at 3k. In the Summer I don't see that nasty crap as much. I've tried having it on for atleast 40 mins. Have it warm up then 25min runs to work but no difference.
@@jimmy1life Make sure to change out your PCV valve.. I think the best thing is to get in the car, start it, check the dash for any lights that say bad things, set the things you want on, and leave... Sitting in the driveway warming it up is not always a good thing..
The sooner you get moving, the sooner the engine with a load on it now, warms up, and the oil temperature takes the longest to warm up to the best temp for it to flow, etc...
BMW "M" cars have an oil temp gauge that will not allow you to rev the motor until the oil temperature is at the right degree so that it is flowing to all the parts at their specified pressure..
@@davidberkey1041 yup it does work well. I’ve used in my Odyssey with 10-13k oil change intervals and the used oil analysis from
Blackstone always came back perfect.
@@davidberkey1041all oils work well if you change it in time.
Mobil 1 has its popularity because of nascar and advertisements. Its a decent oil but i dont see where it does anything different then any oil you change at proper intervals. Proper intervals is the key with any oil i feel
It’s really the additive package you can have a 40% difference In film strength
@@mddunlap03 which had the better addictives.....and what make amsoil so good???
215,000 miles 2000 Celica GTS Using *Mobil 1* plus BG MOA since 2004
@@stevejordan2575 okay Scotty Kilmer tone it down lol
Mobile 1 is garbage. More engine noise and evaporates more than other oils I have used.
When I switched to using pennzoil platinum in my Camry a couple years ago I noticed that the valve train rattle on startup went away within a few hundred miles of driving. Anecdotal perhaps, but also real results.
What type of oil were you running before?
@@matthewkim983 I got the car used, so I don't know what they were running in it before. I assume whatever the express lube place uses.
I noticed exactly the same on my Honda Accord
I'm happy to see that the oil I picked from day one for my wife's car was a good decision. My truck loves Pennzoil as well. You're the second person to prove how good that oil truly is. Thanks for the work and time!
Thanks for your time making this video. Much appreciated.
Cooll! Pennz synthetic oil & fram ultra filter is all i use on the Gas cars & been running for years.
Funny thing is Ive been using frams ultra and Penz for years, as its the best combo for the money.
I enjoy these series. I like the deep dives into brands.
I think one big takeaway here is the difference in filtration between k&n and fram. The lower filtration and hence more dirt will cause higher wear numbers. I think the comparison would’ve been more scientific if the same filter was used for the same interval.
There are later comparisons where this has been done
Mobil, Fram, Stp oil are the worst I've seen so far
@@FordBossMe thanks I’ll take a look.
Always appreciate your content Rich. I used to religiously only use Mobil 1 myself but having a vehicle that took 7 qts of oil, it got quite expensive even doing it myself and thinking only the best for my vehicle because of marketing. Ford Tech Mackuloco (BSG Automotive) recommends only Pennzoil Platinum Ultra Full Synthetic himself.
Look at the video he did on the opened up ford engine in the truck....it was a mobil 1 engine....looked great....clean..no wear on that cam cap he had.....he was saying changing oil on time is the main thing...
MY LIFE STORY OF ENGINE OIL...
My first car was a old 1998 Honda accord and I use Valvoline simply because the name sounded nice lol 😆 😅 and the price was reasonable 😅...
Never had issue with it.
Then I switch to more expensive Royal Purple because it again sounded nice and the color of the oil I'm like WHAAAAT...
I was young OK...
My second car was a old 2000 Toyota Celica with the Manual Transmission.
My first Manual transmission car and the first Manual I learn from.
The car had a bad oil burning issue and I had to constantly check the oil level every week to top off, but other then the oil burning the engine actually runs fine mechanically.
During this time I use the cheapest brand I could find because I was topping off the oil level constantly every week and was cutting into my wallet, so I went cheap.
My third car was a 2006 Toyota 4runner with the 4.7 V8.
This time I did my research and did a lot of asking around and most people told me go with Mobil 1 and that it was the best.
So I use Mobil 1 on my 4runner for 4 years.
I usually do oil change around 4,000 to 5,000 mile mark.
But the issue with with Mobil 1 was that when ever I reach that 4,000 to 5,000 mark I feel my engine feeling sluggish and each time I do a oil change I always tell myself "I sure love new oil because the engine just feels so good each time I get new oil"
For the longest time I thought that was normal.
Then as I got older and got more busy with life I decided to take my 4runner to the shop for oil change instead of doing it myself like I did in the past.
I went to the closes location which was Firestone and I notice that they use Pennzoil.
Up to that point I've notice Pennzoil but I never use it before so I decided to go went with it.
The first time using Pennzoil when I hit that 4,000 to 5,000 miles mark my engine didn't feel sluggish and that suprise me alot.
Because with Mobil 1 when ever I get to that 4,000 to 5,000 mark my engine would always feel sluggish but not with Pennzoil.
I was really shock because up to that point I thought it was just a normal thing.
So I did another round of Pennzoil and again the engine didn't feel sluggish with the Pennzoil when I hit that 4,000-5,000 mile mark.
So on the next oil change I went back to Mobil 1 just to see if I'm tripping or not and sure enough once I hit that 4,000 to 5,000 mile mark my engine felt sluggish again with Mobil 1.
So ever since then I made the switch to Pennzoil and it have been 4 years of me using Pennzoil.
Since then I've brought a Tundra and Pennzoil is all I use for that Tundra.
Pennzoil is my brand of choice and I've been using it for 4 years now.
And that's my experience with engine oil, literally hands on life experience.
I have always used Mobil in everything I’ve changed the oil in and after watching a lot of your videos I decided to try the pennzoil platinum ultra in my daily (2018 Ford Fusion Hybrid 150K) and wow the difference is crazy car runs smoother starts smoother and after 5k miles the oil is still clean compared to the Mobil would be dark by now.
Im telling you, people are asleep on it
😅Dark is not trash in the oil.
Dark is an addative used to indicate heat cycling so that you can visually see the oil life change.
If you were purely driving 70 mph interstates continuously the oil would stay "clean" looking.
The low filtration capability of the K & N type of filter was the biggest reason I never recommended any aftermarket filter kits for the Cummins/Ram's when asked by customers.
I have about 20 gallons of Pennzoil Platinum in my basement, bought out a Pep Boys' entire stock when they were liquidating their retail store's inventory. $16 per 5qt jug! Been good to my S550 Mustang GT so far.
Lucky, you having any additive fallout at the bottom of the bottles?
@@TheNuclearBolton None so far, but I do shake my oil bottles a bit before pouring if they've been sitting more than 6 months.
Any good quality API approved oil and good quality filter are adequate for most consumers. Changed regularly, it should protect your engine and not void your warranty.
Come to think of it, can you even buy oil in the US that is NOT API approved? A looong time ago you could actually buy recycled oil (NOT API approved).
Many of the dollar store oils are not api approved and if you read the bottle it will say not for automotive applications.
@@BrianBourgeois- I had no idea that was still available. I haven't been in a dollar store (99 cents store by me) in years, when I was I didn't look at the oil. Thanks
Any good oil will work fine
I really enjoyed this. I religiously used Mobil 1 when I had a bmw e46. Mostly because it was the most accessible oil that came in 0W-40. Currently have a 2006 Tacoma with 204k miles and have been using pennzoil platinum. Oil changed every 3k miles. Engine runs flawlessly and is quiet. Haven’t thought of changing brands but I’m interested to see what others you test out!
That truck will run forever
It's ridiculous to change a synthetic oil that often. One year or 10,000 miles easy. I change mine once a year and my truck has 300,000 miles. when I used regular oil when I was younger i change my hot rod 400 small block 69 Camaro every 5000 miles. It's a waste to do it more often.
@@VROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM Lol. 10k oci kills motors, its been shown first hand from mechanics who usually recommend 5k synthetic changes. 5k for synthetic, 3k for regular
Change oil when its dirty and burnt, Id bet at 5k it is
BMW actually specs Penzoil platinum if you don’t use their branded oil. 2011 BMW X5 v8
E70
The lab results have seemed to show that Pennzoil Ultra Platinum Castrol Edge GTX are the BEST of the shelf Synthetic oils. A high end FRAM or Wix filter will do. I personally use Amsoil Signature Series and there 25k filter. In reality Amsoil XL is the sweet spot. Right up there with Pennzoil Ultra Platinum , and Castrol Edge GTX . Same price of you have the discount to.
Interesting. I always use the platinum ultra in my 1.6 eco boost escape. I change it every 5-6 months even though its always way under mileage, mainly cause it gets driven on a a lot of shorter trips to work. I can't ever find it anywhere like Walmart in stock and don't want to pay the parts store prices so I just get it off Amazon. And an OEM Mototrcraft filter. I did have an open ended K&N filter for a while that fits surprisingly well in the factory airbox. Sounded cool when you'd start the car and could hear the blow off and turbo some but it got annoying during everyday driving on the road after awhile so I went back to the OEM Motorcraft. Those air filters always crack me up, they look like something from my shop vac.
You know autozone price matches?
K&N air filters let more dirt into your engine. I’m glad you decided to go back to OEM to be honest.
@@MrFart451 Autozone doesn’t carry the Ultra Platinum line, and they will not order it for you. I live near a flagship store and have discussed this with the general manager at length - autozone corporate doesn’t think Ultra Platinum sells enough or has enough interest for them to carry it.
Love this series, could you use a Castrol product sometime? It always seems to be cheap in my area, maybe there's a reason for that.
I will do that next I'll order it now
For where I live in Ontario Canada pennzoil ultra platinum very rarely goes on sale while it seems like Mobil 1 is on sale every other week. Always make sure to buy an extra jug or 2 of ultra platinum when it is. I do find it funny when people say it’s all the same though
I couple months ago I picked up some jugs of ultra platinum from Amazon for $33 CAD. Canadian tire can be hit or miss with Pennzoil ultra platinum products.
Thanks for verifying that I'm using the best of the cheaper synthetics in my vehicle( I consider Pennzoil Ultra Platinum the 2nd best overall oil only 2nd by a little to Amsoil from all the research I've done) Not that I like it but Amsoil is the best but it is so expensive and if you change your oil every 5K like I do it just feels like I'm throwing money away. However, I'm going to put Amsoil Signature series in my Grand Marquis next oil change just to run it one time and see if I notice anything different. I know my Grand Marquis gets 29MPG on the freeway traveling at 79mph as I've tested it multiple times. Will try it in my Tundra too which I've been changing oil every 5K even though the guy with the Million mile Tundra states "maintenance" is key and that he changed his oil every 10,000 miles.....He's on his 2nd Tundra and it has 704,000 mile on the 5.7 Iforce now. I really think Toyota copied aspects of Ford's 4.6 but that's my opinion.
Yeah it seems that Pennzoil Ultra Plantium is better then the Amsoil XL. The ultra platinum is also almost half the price of the amsoil XL.
Toyota has a 4.6L too. It is in the LS 460. It would probably be more similar to the DOHC cobra engine. The 3.5L and 5.7L are similar. I also have a Grand Marquis. I always use pp. ON a flat highway I can get 29 -30 on the display if I drive 60 and easy. I have the 2.79 rear.
@@alb12345672 If you are on a freeway where you can do it try increasing your speed and I bet you'll still get that MPG or maybe just a little less. I checked it with my display and also calculated it manually to make sure. Some people can't believe I'm getting that MPG from a V-8.
Love eco beast engines and I believe it’s important to not only change the oil regularly, but use an oil like penzoil platinum to keep the turbos running top notch
This wasnt even a ecoboost??
No it wasn't but he has a point
Lmaooo Fembot Ford and their JUNK Ecopussy engines are TRASH 🗑 🤣
Few years ago I had a 09 police vic and ran Shell rotella gas truck 5W20 and it ran poorly with no acceleration But once I put Mobil 1 truck/Suv 5W20 it ran like butter !!!
Pursuant to a 1990’s law suit between Castrol and Mobil 1, courts ruled that group 3 and 4 base oils are synthetic, therefore any oil that contains one or both of those groups, regardless of proportions, can be called synthetic. So as long as Amsoil contains group 3, even if it’s 100% group 3, they can legally call it 100% synthetic. Thus, 100% synthetic and full synthetic are synonymous. Amsoil admitted this in one of their own blogs.
Group three isn't classified 100%
@@FordBossMe
“Castrol won the lawsuit and, since then, the industry has defined Group III base oils as, indeed, synthetic.
That means, according to accepted industry definitions and practices, an oil is “synthetic” and may be labeled as such provided it uses only Group III, Group IV or Group V base oils in any combination or ratio.
The oil could use 90% Group IV and 10% Group III base oil; or, it could use 90% Group III and 10% Group IV base oils. As long as it only uses Groups III, IV or V base oils, it’s a synthetic oil.
That being the case, the terms “100% synthetic” and “full synthetic” describe the same thing. They’re synonymous, and an oil marketer can use whichever it prefers provided the oil in the bottle meets the industry description of “synthetic” outlined above.”
Thanks for the report. Honestly been in the industry for around 10 years. Always used mobile one and recommended it. But with that being said I use Pennzoil platinum now. For the price it’s hard to beat. Looking forward to the royal purple stats in the future.
TBN is not a measure of how much of "the additive package is left" whatsoever. I do not know where that idea came from. It is simply a measure of the reserve alkalinity of the oil or in other words reveals its ability to neutralize acids which will corrode things if left to exist without being neutralized. It is thus analogous to alkalinity in a swimming pool. There are several components in the additive package each with a different job (dispersants, detergents, corrosion inhibitors, oxidation inhibitors, anti-foaming agents, VI improvers, anti-wear agents, etc) and a low TBN does not in any way mean that all of them are depleted. However, since motor oils will typically use magnesium and calcium sulphonates, salicylates, and phenates for alkalinity, and these also double as detergents, the detergent level could be being depleted when there is a low TBN. But to suggest that detergents and other items that may be added specifically to enhance alkalinity are "the additive package" is quite incorrect.
Watch my later videos
I can confirm that using Mobil 1 in my 3.5 Ecoboost SHO makes the engine ticking sound much louder. I know the high pressure fuel pump makes a lot of noise, but using Mobil 1 just makes the engine tick like crazy. Almost sounds kind of like the cam lobes are hitting the buckets with no oil in between at all (even though I've never heard this actually happening, I would imagine it would sound like this if no oil situation ever happened) 😂
I'm sure Mobil 1 didn't cause more wear than other oils. There's a lot more ticking sound with Mobil 1 in all engines I've used Mobil 1 in. You're not the only one that noticed that, It seems that most people think Mobil 1 is loud in their engines.
So far, Amsoil and Pennzoil Platinum has been the best with engine noise reduction. With Amsoil, my engines are so so much quieter when I listen to the engine with the hood open, and the noise difference is also noticeable in the cabin.
Its amazing how an oil can change the way an engine sounds, even though the oils are the same viscosity, just different brands.
Unless you're using a different viscosity there is no difference in oil weight and the ticking is something you're conjuring in your head.
@@pbaker7160
Wrong. I worked in a fast change lube shop and all oils were stored in the same ambient temp. Certain brands were noticeably thinner than others. (same viscosity ratings)
I've switch my own and found a significant sound difference.
Thank for providing objective test results for high-end synthetic oils and how such information should be interpreted when making oil choice decisions. You've done a nice job of testing a variety of oil brands as well. Your Royal Purple testing and observations should be interesting as well...
I am curious to see how full synthetic Quaker state holds up... from what I know it has a pretty good additive package in it as well... High moly oil for one.. keep up the testing .. I find this utmost fascinating and interesting.. Love the vids you post..Nothing but honesty and transparency :)
Quaker State makes a good oil. They're owned by Royal Dutch Shell who also owns Penzoil. I have used Quaker State whenever it's on sale at Walmart or other stores. I've also used Shell Rotella and liked that a lot too. But the key is regular oil changes at 5,000 miles. I've done that and have over 300k miles on two cars without issue.
Very interesting testing! I have always been a Pennzoil customer. 🙂🐶
Your 100 percent correct about k&n air filters. The fastest way to kill your cylinders is to let sand into your engine.
I notice in my use that Mobil 1 evaporates more quickly than Ultra Platinum.
100% this is a common consensus
Same issue here. Use about 1 qt on a 7k oci. Vs less than half for the pennzoil
@@christopherhendricks4369 ive read about that ....seems mobil 1 is more slippery...which is a good thing i guess but at the expense of a lil more consumption...cuz when you look at flash point and noack,mobil 1 is one of the top oils.
Yep, 5k miles, Pennzoil Platinum, and a good oil filter.
Your good to go.
Don't have to watch pennzoil has won many videos on this
K&N's garbage, NONE of their products are getting ANYWHERE near my car, ever.
Exactly!
thank you SO much for these objective analyses of oil/filters, etc. I have a 2021 Subaru Forester with 3 years and only 22,000 miles on it. I am switching to the Penn Platinum ultra based on your suggestions. $23 and change for 5 qts at Amazon right now
I'd like to post a note to folks who like to say "I've used such and such oil 20 years ago in my high performance hot rod toaster, and it worked the best hands down. Not that I tried any other oil, but it was definitely the best!" Oil formulations change fairly significantly over time, even if the branding doesn't. We are now at API SP and ILSAC GF-6 standard with modern oils. The standard in 2000 was SJ, which had significantly different requirements for viscosity, additives and detergents than SP. Base oils have also changed slightly in that timeframe. The reason this testing is useful is because the 3 year old youtube videos doing a similar thing, are now obsolete. SN, which was current pre-2020 and SP have a fairly large difference in requirements. There isn't much for the halfway SN plus and SP though. As a service advisor, I would regularly run into conversations of motor oil brand bias, using examples from the early 1980s. To which I would simply ignore the other party, or just stare blankly. Old men come in two flavors: Those that know a whole lot, and those that think they know a whole lot. Don't be the second old man.
Absolutely agree
When I was on the phone tonight with a MMO engineer we spoke about stuff like this
Today's oils are nothing like they were 20yrs ago and completely different
Correct! I remember many years ago when Pennzoil was what we used in our gasoline tractors and push mowers because it was cheap and good enough for those low RPM motors. Today it's and one of the best. I use it in my F150 and also my Grand Marq with 162,000 miles that still purrs like a kitten
Yes, I try to tell the sheeps that oil formulations change every few years and the Pennzoil Platinum Ultra vs Amsoil SS test is no long applicable as it has already gone through at least x1 reformulation. New testing is required for comparison. The sheeps don’t listen and just believe what they already made their mind up with rather than actual updated data. One thing is certain is that despite reformulation, Amsoil is always top 3 oil
@@LoveLikeaHurricane The last time Project Farm tested these synthetic oils, the top three were, in order, Amsoil Signature, Red Line, Pennzoil Ultra Platinum.
Sorry man I will never run anything but Mobile one in any of my EcoTech GM motors. Had too many issue with Pennzoil and timing chain lubrication.
I don't personally care what you run
Im.jot judging you for that, I'm showing you my results....what don't you get about that?
I understand there are fan boys out there and I understand no matter what you tell someone they will no matter what do what they feel is best
I don't need to year every person state that they will do this or that
I'm here to educate and that's it and build relationships with people and learn
Do you boo
Test is bunk, different change intervals due to anecdotal evidence. Different air filters which apparently caused the mobil 1 to protect worse. You can’t gather much from this. Silicon being higher in the mobil 1 (IF it really is due to the filter) could definitely cause more wear, meaning more metals in the oil. Maybe the new pennzoil is better, who knows. Although i think projectfarm compared mobil 1 and the pennzoil plat and if memory serves the mobil 1 was better during the wear test and flow test, or at least very close.
This isn’t some kind of personal attack, I’m just saying.
@@FordBossMe And with that snotty attitude, you have lost a viewer, maybe more.
@@barrygrant2907 I get really sick of his rude comments.Mr.know it all.I wanted to respond before he deletes your comment.
@@FordBossMe Does his comment somehow threaten you?What a weird response
K&N air filters tend to cause your mass airflow sensor to get polluted from the oil applied to the filter element.
Your doing it wrong if it caused your mass airflow sensor to clog
Fram synthetic oil filter is actually very well made oil filter for the price. Better than amsoil and k&n oil filters in my opinion.
УШАНКА.......😂😂
I switched to Pennzoil Ultra Platinum after Project Farm's test. The 5qt (1.25gal) was on Amz in 2020, for $21.99, free shipping. Bought two. Should have bought more as this was likely a seller typo, and FBA.
Now the same 1.25 gal product (5W-30), is $64.99 from that same seller.
And good luck finding this oil locally. Wally World doesn't sell it. Advance, and AutoZone don't carry it either. Good video.
I use PUP 5w30 in my 18 Subaru WRX wrx with great results. Have since the car was new on its very first oil change. Now at 102k miles. I used to buy it locally special ordered for like 75 bucks and i think that was for 6 quarts until i started to use amazon. The thing with amazon is the prices on that oil change drastically from time to time. Sometimes its $50 sometimes its 60 and sometimes its 65 for a 3 pack of 5 quart bottles. I just ordered some at the last price. You have to find it when its down and stock up then. Been doing this since about 2019. Keep an open eye and be willing to spend the $ when available at the lower prices.
I stock up on Pennzoil UP 0w-20. I had so much it will last me for years. I try to use up within 3-4 years at most.
Rich - your a straight shooter, brutally honest and a damn good mechanic. Keep up the good work with the videos. Subbed!!
Next time try *Baldwin B329* filter or another *Baldwin* filter the same connecting sizes.(B281;B7367;B7377;B7496 *If it will be fit by lenght)
Very nice ... an accurate honest report..... still foolish Cummins owners are still using those expensive "K" filters which dump more sand into their engines.. MUST BE AN iQ PROBLEM with cummins diesel owners?
Great results Rich. This is why I've always used Pennzoil UP in all my vehicles. I currently us UP in my '20 Lariat 3.5 EB as well with a Motorcraft oil filter. I may need to switch the oil filter to a Fram our Purolator One oil filter. Any recommendations on oil filters for the 3.5 EB?
Use the wix xp filter it’s an upgraded wix and wix is one of the very best in the industry
@@bsextremesports Do you the P/N for a 2020 3.5 EB motor?
Try *Baldwin_filters* .
Everyone argues about what oil is best. I say just change your damn oil every 3000 miles to 5 tops. Especially if you have a turbo. All oils are really good these days.
Love the comparison. I personally love Valvoline (Napa brand oil). Never had problems using there oil & there oil filters or ford filters & oil. How’s your Lincoln running on the Royal purple?
So far so good I'm starting to notice a little bit of noise on Startup but not very much
@@FordBossMe I have a 2008 Ford Focus 600,000 km on it. Motor still perfect after it's first oil change it was synthetic oil every 5000 km.
I’ve only gotten my 21 civic oil changes at the dealer. Have been using ultra platinum last two oil changes.
If I ever switch again I’d only considered Castrol edge or valvoline advanced.
My question is… is it true that over time ultra platinum potentially can mess up the Catalytic converter? I read over time it can and a few other things although it performs well it states it can potentially do that not sure how or why and if so would Castrol edge be a good substitute
I just recently made the switch from Mobil 1 5w20 Annual Protection to Pennzoil Platinum, and immediately noticed how much thicker the Pennzoil was right out of the bottle. My 4.6L Triton seems to like it, so I will be sticking with it provided they keep the formula the same.
Thicker is not always better. 90% of engine wear comes from startup which means flow rate is extremely important. That's where mobile shines
@@johnsmith3735 Thicker is not good at all. The whole point of these newer oils is that they have to be thin to lubricate modern engine designs properly.
@@scarhart53 Thanks for proving my point. Have a good one.👍
Rich what's your personal opinion on KN Engine oil filters? A mechanic once told me that he didn't recommend KN engine air filter but the KN engine oil filters were OK. I dislike the fact that KN does not disclose their micron rating on thier oil filters. I called KN about a year ago and ask them about thier engine oil filter micron rating and KN told me they don't disclose that information 🤔. Maybe cause they know the micron rating horrible??
I think they have good oil filter cans but everything inside is pretty standard nothing special
Love to see how castrol edge ep performs. Been using it and have been happy with it😁
I've been using Mobil oils for over 20 years with great results while my dad's been using Pennzoil brand far longer with great results. So, from what I've experienced, they both are very good brands. That is only if you practice proper preventive maintenance intervals on what you're driving. On a side note, I've never went over 10k miles or over one year between oil changes with full synthetic no matter what ANY oil company says
The fact of the matter is if it all comes down to what you're paying for you are definitely getting way more with the Pennzoil products than the mobil
Look at my most recent testing that I've been releasing over the last couple weeks mobile doesn't even come in middle of the pack with any of them really
The additive package on the extended performance is much less than most just regular full synthetic oils it doesn't make any sense why people would pay that amount of money for something that they're not really getting that much of and whenever you do the noack volatility test the mobile doesn't even test that well
What do you think of the liqui moly compared to the Pennzoil?..Apologies if you've already covered this.
I was a little let down that the results weren't comparable. If both oils had been run with a standard filter, then we could know which differences were from oil formulation.
But as it stands, once again it has been shown that gauze filters don't filter as thoroughly as oem style paper filters. No new ground broken here..
Thank you for the video and I do enjoy your content.
I'll run it again for all the people crying about the damn thing
I don't understand how you guys want anything more than what I've given you it's like you guys want other people to give you the content and then they give it to you and then people still find reasons to complain about it I'm the one paying for everything none of you guys are offering the extra help to pay for this stuff it's on me but yet you want more and want more and want more
@@FordBossMe Sorry not meant as a criticism, perhaps it came across as such, unfortunately. I'm not complaining, nor expecting you to rerun your tests.
I enjoy your logical thorough approach to all things automotive. As always this was very interesting and it seems that penzoil and mobile one are common, affordable, oils that people have to choose between.
I really meant the thank you for your videos and I do enjoy your content.
@@ddanbudy sorry it's been a rough month and it's been a rough couple months I've been doing so much for people and trying to give so much and I'm getting very little in returns was very exhausting and now I'm home sick on top of it still trying to help people from home
@@FordBossMe I hope that you feel better soon. I would think that this is a challenging platform to deal with, especially when you are not at your peak and as they say, everyone is a critic. The less qualified, the more critical..
In my 2006 Acura TSX mobil 1 is a bit noisy particularly on cold start up right after the oil passes 2000 miles ish in service. Initially I got a bit paranoid but using it for 5 years i just decided to live with it. Since i don't need to add oil during the 5000 mile OCI consistently and I recently pulled the valve cover to check valve lash and change gasket, the valve train was clean with no varnish.
Same for my Acura MDX
One thing I would of liked to of seen is VOA's of all oils that your trying for a base to compare from. From memory some PUP lines have a tendency to pull copper out of things - oil coolers/heat exchangers etc. Base silicon levels etc need to be known before comparing one oil to another. Cheers
More testing requires more money and unless more subscribers come on or people are going to start jumping on the Discord I'm not putting any more money into things that I have to sew start encouraging people to join the patreon or something because everything that you guys wants cost additional money
My only issue is Mobil 1 has the dexos gen 3 certification and the Ultra Platinum doesn't. This could be important for DI/Turbo engines. But Penzoil seems to be winning in a lot of shootouts.
I put a purolator boss on my Honda accord. With such a high mileage protection at 20k I try to change oil at every 5-6k miles. Could you technically reuse the filter or just pay the $12 for new oil filter?
Very cool. Thanks for all your passion and work put into these videos for us!
I do 3,000 mile interval oil changes on my car. So personally I go with what's cheaper one. If you go longer on a single oil change maybe the fact the oil wears less fast would be a bigger factor.
My 1.6 ecoboost has only ever had Motorcraft oil from the dealership in it. Ticking along strong at 120k miles. Maybe I should switch to Pennz?
Thanks Rich!! Learn lots from your channel!
looking forward to these series . its a lot of extra effort on your part ,appreciate it .
Thanks for the videos and your honest feedback👍. I use Pennzoil Ultra myself.
My buddy used Mobil One in his 1996 GMC Sierra since the very first oil change, it has 540,000 miles on the factory original 5.7 V8.
Mobile one is the factory fill for many car brands, Corvette, older Camaro SS, BMW, vipers etc..
Why not Pennzoil???
Those old GMs are tough and will run forever anyway. I had a ‘93 Chevy 5.7 V8 that ran great and used no oil despite 260,000 hard miles and oil changes with whatever was laying around. Maintenance was sometimes neglected for long periods. I bought it “used up,” and spent a small fortune fixing it up.
The rest of the pickup was broken and I sent it to the auction to get rid of it in 2009.
Ferrari, Mazerati and gas-powered Mopars have all been factory filled with Pennzoil for several years. Factory fill or certification like GM Dexos isn’t anymore than a marketing strategy and doesn’t really impress me.
I use Mobil 1, 0w40, Euro blend, with a OEM Mann oil Filter. I do 5000 mile oil changes. I also use OEM Mann air filters. My VW 2.5L 5cyl Gas, has 283,000+ on it.
I enjoy this testing series, but... ( there's always a but, right? ) I think it would be better if you used the same filters, and the same intervals to show more accurate testing results. I feel that in this comparison, there are too many variables to get a true comparative results.
I don't care what you do really I didn't ask for anybody to just stop doing what they were doing because of my video furthermore for anybody to think that by me using a different oil filter it put a variable in place or air filter I put some kind of variable in place that's silly it's like why even talk about it ...... why even have a conversation with somebody that thinks that way nothing against you but it just seems like at that point you're wasting your time
@@FordBossMe Ok. Everyone has an opinion. Like I said, I enjoy your content.
I understand my car is a bit different. The reason I only use Mann oil filters is because I have tried several other cartridge type filters. My little 2.5L 5cyl tends to have pretty high oil pressure. I do not have a gauge, but the oil filters branded other than Mann, tend to get sucked into an hourglass shape in about 2500 miles. The Mann does not in 5000 miles. My oil comes out in 5000 miles a bit browner than the honey color it goes in, but is still transparent enough to see the cross hatching on the dipstick. I think the Mann does a great job. At 228,500 miles, I needed to have the valve cover replaced due to the PCV leaking. I got to see the top of the engine under the valve cover, and it looked clean from carbon buildup or any sludge.
Being consistent in when testing oils and filters is, in my opinion, very necessary.
If you are testing oils, using the same filters and intervals, will yield a true test of the different oils. When testing filters, using the same oil and intervals, will truly test the different filters. That is just common sense and logical.
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Since testing the different oils is important to you or me, it's never a "waste of time" to do due diligence on being consistent.
@@K.Kelly87 exactly 💯
Mobil 1 just went to 32 Dollars at Walmart .Home Depot has Penzoil at 5 Dollars less. As of February 1 2023
Mobil 1 almost always have higher iron levels. Piston ring and cylinder wall wear... Thanks for these results.
Not anymore...you must be thinking about back in the hurricane katrina days when thry had additive supplier problems..
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Do some Schaeffers also please be
Do you think switching back and forth a high mileage oil additive to pennzoil ultra will be detrimental to the seal and cause a leak? I've been running mobil 1 high mileage for years. Heard it's better to just stick with it than switch. Any truth to that?
Ehhh should be no problem
I've been running my k&N in my 2015 Nissan frontier... Sounds like I need to change back to OE? Or just find a quality cold air intake? I use Pennzoil platinum with wix every 3k miles want to make the engine last long as possible
I would
@@FordBossMe I'll switch back then didn't know it was that much worse for filtering
@@quintonrichardson4506 look up the project farm air filter comparison video. K&N filters are terrible for daily driver vehicles.
I wish i can find ultra platinum where i live. No where to be found
I have a jeep SRT and the penzoil 0w-40 is very hard to find.. I had to use mobile 1 synthetic 0w-40..
no they're not , that's why i stopped using that air filter
On the subject of sending stuff out to labs... Do you have any thoughts on sending injectors out to have them professionally cleaned and tested before/after? Would your answer change if the vehicle in question was from a municipal fleet that might be getting lowest-bid gasoline that might lack cleaners/additives? Sent out some injectors once from a 15-year-old CVPI with 120,000 miles and when they came back after cleaning/testing the car seemed a lot more responsive. Wasn't all that expensive, either.
I've never really thought about that to be honest with you
MOBIL 1 is over rated.
Happy that you have a ford, I do as well, these tests you do give me confidence in my oil choices, It's like having my own engine tech!
Thanks again!
Loving your reviews. Can't wait for the Amsoil talk.
I been using pennzoil platinum high mileage for almost a year and I love it , is it any closer to the ultra ?? Or far from comparison ?? Thanks again for your time filming this video 👍🏼
Ultra has a higher additive package
Soooo I can change my filter every other oil change 😂. Just kidding.
You can do every other oil change for a filter. IF, you use a Boss, Fram Ultra and the engine is in good shape (no sludge) with reasonable OCI. IMHO
Thanks, this just confirms why I use Pennzoil Ultra on all my oil changes for the last 2 years.
Boosted subarus will eat mobil one oil and spin rod bearings so deisel rotella t6 all day in my sti. Now I only run mobile 1 in my 03 cobra for the 16 years I've owned this and pushed this car to its limits zero engine issues runs like new. Use what works. Mobile 1 and rotella are cheap like under $20 when on sale.
I mean you make it very clear that you are Mobil 1 Fanboy for certain reasons and I get that I'm not trying to take that away from you I'm not sure why you keep pushing that we that have read your message already know that and I don't mean that disrespectfully I'm just saying I don't understand why you have this repeating process of trying to put that in my mind that you're stuck on mobile one for your Mustang and you're never going to come off of that I personally don't care I'm happy that you have the Mustang and I'm happy that you have something that you like but I really don't give a s*** at the end of the day will you use as long as you're taking care of your s***
Thanks for the info Rich. I use Pennzoil Ultra Platinum with the Fram Ultra Synthetic filter in my 2020 Mazda CX-5 Signature. It has the turbo. My OCI's to date have been about every 2500 miles as most of my driving is short trips. This information confirms to me that I have made the right choice with my oil and filter. Keep up the great work!
Good stuff
I have an 05 Malibu V6 (pushrod) that I’ve used Mobil 1 in since 44k miles, I now have 287k miles. Never any issue with the oil. I make this comment because you said the Pennzoil UP made the engine run quieter. I’ll give it a shot. If it makes my engine quieter that alone would make me switch to Pennzoil full time. I don’t think it would hurt the engine switching brands does anyone else?
That's the Gm 3.5 engine found in other applications as well. My 06 G-6 GT has the same engine at almost 110k miles and running beautifully.
Your mileage is impressive! I've switched synthetic oils with it from Valvoline to Quaker State without a problem over several years. I have some Pennzoil Platinum synthetic stashed for the next oil change, in any case :)
@@wesoblander3648 Yeah the 06 GT has an LX9 3.5. Great, reliable engine. I have no complaints
Interesting but you started out by saying the air filter allowed higher dirt infiltration, so it stands to reason that the extra dirt in the intake would cause higher levels of iron. Since the piston rings and cylinder walls are both iron mixed with dirt grit.
I've been using the Pennzoil Platinum (not ultra) in my 2016 Frontier 4L since it was new, and I'm pleased with the performance. The oil and filter (Purolator One) has been changed at about 7,000 miles, and the engine has never used any oil between changes. Mileage is between 19 and 21 mpg consistently, and the engine is alway smooth and quiet. I may change to the Ultra after seeing this video.
According to Blackstone Labs, there is no significant difference between leading engine oils. The key is proper interval oil changes. My farmer neighbor has a 2001 Tundra V8 with 436,000 miles. At oil change time, he buys the cheapest on sale oil brand, switching brands at every oil change. He uses the same weight oil consistently, but only buys conventional dinosaur oil. He has never used full synthetic. He has never changed the differential oil, and has never changed the transmission oil. He pulls 5 tons daily, including irrigation equipment, cotton and peanut trailers, and water wagons. He has not spent one penny on that truck except on regular maintenance such as tires, batteries, oil changes etc. He also has a John Deere 7800 tractor with 33,000 hours (most farm tractors last 5,000 to 10,000 hours). Same thing, uses the brand of diesel oil on sale, and switches brand every oil change. He laughs at those who claim one oil brand is better than the other.
After years of checking oil debates, it seems to be the Penzoil platinum series is a better oil. I personally been using Mobile products for many years without any issues. I had the same oil tests on my 2012 wrangler after a couple years of extended oil changes and the results were good. I’m sticking with Mobile beings it’s been good all while acknowledging the results of Penzoil. I tore apart an 05 5.3 with 250 sum odd miles due to a cracked head that had run conventional Penzoil straight 30w and it was clean with no signs of wear. I did suggest getting away from the straight weight and run the recommended weight. I suggested Penzoil platinum being its of high quality and her husband is a Penzoil guy. Routine maintenance based on your driving is by far what’s most important when keeping things running good for a long time
I am curious about the royal purple oil. I been told its more for racing applications.
In my opinion it's just a gimmick. Is there any evidence anywhere that suggests it's better than any other common off the shelf oil? I have seen oil testing that had this oil as middle of the road when it came to wear protection. This tells me the only things special about it is color and smell which does nothing to prevent wear.
@@Deucealive75 I haven't tried it because it's more expensive than mobil one.
RP has inferior cold-flow properties compared to Penn UP.
I have a 2006 Escalade and it had start up rattle. Some called it piston slap and it was normal. One day I decided to experiment. Was it the oil? The short answer is no it wasn’t the oil. It was the high-efficiency filter. So I stopped using them. I’m thinking a quieter start up with better lubrication is more valuable than a few specs of carbon floating in the oil.
Owner’s manual says use a synthetic blend every 10 K miles for your oil change. I figure using a full synthetic is much better and less than 10 K miles. Maybe 7-8 K miles intervals
I switched from Mobil 1 I used for years and switched to Pennzoil Platinum and noticed a difference in engine smoothness and performance!
I wish more people would
@@FordBossMe I’m thinkin’ they might and have seen a lot going with Pennzoil lately!
My top 3 choices are Amsoil signature series, Penzoil ultra platinum and Schaeffer's Supreme 9000.
There is the value issue that needs addressed too. Amzoil is about $14 per quart while Mobil 1 is about $6 per quart, both 100% synthetic oils. At what point do folks eliminate value for the best product vs. most value in performance for the cost?
Amsoil is 100% synthetic
Mobil is not 100% synthetic
It has to say 100% on the bottle and mobil does not
It's a marketing gimmick by mobil and most oil companies - Amsoil is the the only real full synthetic that's why the bottle is labeled 100% and mobil just says full synthetic
@@FordBossMe Would you say Pennzoil is equivalent to 100% synthetic because it is made from natural gas ,not crude oil ? Thamks in advance for your thoughts