I've had Valvoline in my cars for more years than the other two. I've had Pennzoil and Mobile 1 also in my cars for a number of years. Any of the three, as you mentioned, are quality products however, the most important thing is to change the oil regularly. That means changing the oil way before the oil life feature in most cars reaches all the way down to 0%. Many TH-cam channels had jumped on this mindset with many failed engine tear downs of engines that were neglected. The Chevy Trax is a good example where the small displacement engine (1.4 liter in the Trax) with a turbo charger that makes boost to beat on the small 1.4 liter even harder needs to have clean oil. The manufactures of oil with their outrageous claims of extended oil change intervals out to 20,000 is complete nonsense. These small 1.4-liter turbo charged engines with only 5 oil changes in the first (and probably last) 100,000 is neglect to the level of insanity. The Trax only holds 4.2 quarts of oil and will not hold up to even 10,000-mile oil changes. A TH-camr tore down a Toyota Camry engine with 180,000 that not only failed but grenaded because the owner adhered to Toyota's recommend 10,000 oil change intervals. At 120,000 miles the engine was already consuming a quart of oil every 1,000 miles which is the beginning of the end. Higher consumption at 140,000 to 150,000. Near the end of life for the engine. Costly - really costly. That Camry is Toast. There is data to back this up with high rates of turbo charger failing in the Trax. Why? because of oil having too much contamination and the oil inlet pipe from the engine suppling oil to the turbo is routed right behind the exhaust manifold and will clog up with burn oil deposits. That is a $2K to $3K mistake and will happen long before the Trax gets to 100,000 miles. Oil is cheaper than turbo chargers and/or engine failures. My rule of thumb is changing the oil at 50% oil life indicated in the dash. The engine and turbo have a much better chance to make it to 100,000 and beyond.
@@digitalcamaraderie5685 I updated my comment above to reflect the high oil consumption at 120,000 and engine failure at 180,000. At 120,000 to consume a quart of oil every 1,000 is the beginning of the end.
Changing the oil at 50% on my car means Changing it every 2500 miles. Thats silly. 5k is good enough for me with a high quality synthetic and good filter
@@kychristell1779 Some car's reportedly have a 10,000 oil interval on the internal computer, which is what the OP was specifically targeting I suspect. Cause yeah my RAV4 TRD and 2011 Honda Accord have 5,000 mile maintenance minders as well. But I've also heard that changing your oil at 4000 miles (particularly turbocharged vehicles) will help insure engine longevity. But either way as long as you change your oil at 5,000-6000 miles or less, it seems like you're good (no matter what engine it is). You almost never hear of engines blowing up with 5000 mile oil changes.
Those are my 3 preferred oil brands so I’m glad you tested them. I’ve settled on using Mobil 1 in my naturally aspirated V-8 truck engine and I use the Pennzoil Platinum in both my 2 Litre turbo engines. For some reason the Valvoline is harder to find in my area otherwise I may have used that in the V-8 over the years. No matter what brand of oil, proper change intervals are key to a long engine life. Great video, thanks for the info.
i change my oil/filter every 3K-3,500K max in my 2021 VW MK7.5 GTI , so yes, the minimal differences in these tests so it’s kind of irrelevant.. if it’s good enough for Porsche from the factory.. that’s saying something
I’ve been using Synthetic oil since 1980 on my Subaru I purchased new a 1990 Nissan Pick up truck had it for 13 years only used Mob8l 1 with Fram oil filters. I started just changing the filter every 5k miles and the oil with filter every 10k miles. I had it for 13 years and the engine ran very good. No excessive oil consumption and the truck mpg never changed. I feel that all three oils you tested are very good for almost any vehicle now made. Very good video.
@@robertj4454 Can you point me in the direction of where you saw those tests on oil filters? I can believe that Wix would be best, though I've also heard that purolator is among the best as well.
Ive been using Mobil 1 full synthetic oil since the day it hit the store. After Using it for over two decades in 5 different vehicles, I had zero issues in any of the vehicles.
Thanks Joe. My self being a mechanic dating back to 1960. Here is my thoughts. I have done extensive research and study in the development of motor oils. You can only imagine the advancements in the technologies of motor oils and engine design. A lot has changed and continues to change. What was good in an 8BA Ford flat head cannot be compared to anything in todays engines. Today we have some of the absolute best engine oils the industry can supply. All the brands you invested in are all good in and of themselves. Here is my pick. Have used Mobile One for many years in many applications. I have only recently changed to Pennzoil Ultra Platinum. Oil changes are the best investment for longevity. Thanks again, the Old school guy.
Back in the early 1990s, the police department I worked for began using the Mobile 1 oil in our police cars. If I remember correctly we had a mix of Ford Crown Vics and Chevrolet Caprices. Our mechanic changed the oil every 10,000 miles. Now if people don’t know, police cars get a lot of idling time (just like taxis) and the engine runs probably 3X for every mile driven. Some cars ran 24 hours per day on all 3 shifts. From idling to emergency response and vehicle pursuits, they get a lot of wear. We never had an engine fail due to lubrication issues. So I began using the same rule of 10,000 miles per oil change, figuring if police engines could do it my personal car could do it. I’ve done that in the decades since and I have never had an engine failure related to the engine oil. Mobile1 isn’t cheap, but when you factor in the oil change ratio of 3:1, it’s not really more expensive.
I remember Mobil 1 doing an experiment with a Las Vegas taxi company. For whatever reason, it was against conventional oil. But they used their oil and conventional oil for 10k mile intervals and disassembled the engines after 100k miles. The conventional oil engine was severely varnished. The Mobil 1 engine looked brand new. I've used Mobil 1 ever since I saw this experiment.
I've been using Valvoline in all my cars. Advanced for 2 and High mileage for the other 2. I used to use Mobil 1, then i went to Super tech for awhile. Once i started using Valvoline oils, what a difference. My vehicles just like Valvoline. I also tried Pennzoil Ultra Platinum, but I just didnt get the hype. I'm a Valvoline guy now, but in general, the others are good as well. Great video and informative. Thanks
would be very helpful to everyone if u mention which cars/engines u have had good fortune with using the Valvoline. Each car brand and engine tends to like particular oils more than others.
i always used Valvoline, once i started using Liqui Moly oil, and my car became really sluggish, first i didnt knew why. After going back to Valvoline the engine came alive !
It felt like i lost some kind of torque when using other oil than Valvoline. It felt like parts in the engine block are not working efficiently. Everything came back to normal after using Valvoline.. I had the same experience when switching to Mobil 1, Castrol, Bardahl, or Liqui Moly. There is another oil that give the same excellent feeling Motul Econergy. If i cant find Valvoline my second option would be Motul.
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say, as long as you are using an oil from a recognized manufacturer, and a quality filter, the biggest difference is going to be in the frequency of your changes. I bought an F-150 than had about 28.5K on it, but oil change indicator said 28% left before next change. Since I was so close to an even mileage, I put in a good oil, ran it until 30K, then changed out using my preferred Mobil 1 Truck & SUV 5W30 blend at religious 5K increments. Truck is still running great. Pulls my trailer like a champ, and no break downs to date.
Ford Boss Me oil test encouraged me to switch from Mobile 1 to penzoil ultra platinum and now I just used for the first time the valvoline synthetic. I’m really pleased with the penzoil and I’m sure I’ll be happy with the valvoline. I use the fram ultra synthetic per Boss’ testing and it I’m really pleased with how this filter works. Thanks for posting.
Mobile one is overpriced and heavily marketed. Can’t beat Penzoil ULTRA platinum for the price and it’s one of the best you can buy for any price. Valvoline products are very very good as well.
Mobil 1 5 quart jugs at walmart were least expensive of the 3 for years. I was running 0w40 euro M1 for years buying 5 quart jugs for $23-$24 bucks in USA. Prices are higher now as we all know all 3 are good oils.
FWIW...Amazon sells 3-pak of 5-qt.Pennzoil Ultra Platinum 5W-30 for $72.00 right now. That's about $4.80 @qt. Buying single-pak of the same, they charge more than twice as much. Go figure.
I have an 07 Chevy Avalanche that I bought used. When I first got it I switched to Mobil 1 synthetic. I would get a tapping sound on startup and at times it would last 30 seconds or more. I recently switched to Pennzoil Ultra Platinum and almost never have the tapping sound and when I do it only lasts about 1-2 seconds at the very most. The engine also sounds quieter and smoother with the Pennzoil vs Mobil 1. Pennzoil Ultra Platinum synthetic will be the only thing I run in my truck from now on and when I use the last jug of Mobil 1 in my car, I will switch that over to Pennzoil Ultra Platinum as well.
I never understood the hype for mobil 1. My first car was a Ford escape v6 I ran Castrol.... I put 200,000 trouble free miles on it i tried Mobil and i found it produced more blowby.
@@leadnsteel1428 I think years ago Mobil 1 was a lot better but in recent years there’s been other companies that have come out with better quality oils. I know that a lot of people have had a lot of success with running regular oil for hundreds of thousands of miles but for some reason I feel better running synthetic, especially since I live in Texas and the summers can be pretty hot. Synthetic oil stands up to heat better. That’s a big reason I run synthetic. But that’s just me.
@@evanhovis9126 I agree. If Amsoil was the same price as the other synthetic oils I might give it a try but I’m not going to pay the price they want for an oil that’s not much better than the other good synthetic oils.
Valvoline 1st, Penzoil 2nd M1 3rd. All good oils, but Valvoline and Penzoil have a slight edge. Penzoil ultra platinum is very, very good oil. Amsoil is 1st from all the testing I've seen.
Excellent video! I have been using Mobil 1 since the Toyota Dealership told me that its the best but after watching this video and fewer others I will be using Valvoline Advanced Full Synthetic on the next Oil Change. Thank you so much for the test results.
I used to use Mobil 1 and switched to Pennzoil ultra platinum since Amsoil signature is almost the same yet much more expensive. But I do use Amsoil oil filter which goes down to 20microns. My 2006 Acura RL runs amazing
I started using Mobil 1 in 1977 and used it exclusively until about 5 years ago in over 40 different vehicles. A gear-head friend of mine who follows things like oil testing regularly told me at that time that Pennzoil was surpassing Mobil 1 in test results. Especially a 'shear' test. I switched to Pennzoil Platinum then and have stuck with it. I also use Rotella T6 synthetic in my Cummins diesel pusher motorhome (11 gallon oil changes!) and in my Yamaha Grizzly quad.
Yes, Ultra is better but it's meant for high performance engines like high horsepower SRT's for example. I didn't think I needed to go that extreme for my stuff. @@evanhovis9126
Toyota Corolla owner - Canada. I use whichever 0W-16 is on sale. I suspect they are all equally good. Mobil 1 0W-16 Penzoil Platinum 0W-16 Valvoline 0W-16 Castrol Edge 0W-16 Toyota 0W-16 = Made by Exxon which makes Mobil 1 Change interval is more important than brand.... 5,000 miles or six months - whichever comes first. I bring my car to the dealer to change the oil every 4 months. It makes me feel better about myself knowing that I've purposefully changed at an earlier interval than is recommended. That way I know I've done everything possible to extend the life of the engine.
When I bought my 08 RAM 5.7 HEMI new, I asked the service manager - Mike - what oil he would recommend. His said to use only Valvoline, since it leaves NO deposits, gunk, or other dark crap in the engine and under the valve covers, and now after 157775 miles, my HEMI runs silent, NO vibrations, NO "HEMI tick", kinda like a big ass watch with its quietness.... I have always used the Valvoline 5W-20 full synthetic, except for the first 12K miles on "regular" oil. I am now using the high mileage product. With this last oil change, I added 8 ounces, (6.75 qts x 1.2 oz/qt = 8 ounces), of the ARCHOIL AR9100 friction modifier. NOW, everyone's vehicle ALWAYS runs/sounds "better" just after an oil change, BUT, I DO notice a more responsive engine with this additive and the next fill-up, ( I use E-0 - 90 octane exclusively), I will hopefully see an improved MPG. Thank you for your informative video...... F J B....
@@whatyaknowjoe67nice! For the past couple years I've been using the Penzzoil platinum. It's the best on budget in my area, and I'm happy with It's performance. I was always using Castrol, ever since way back in the conventional oil days, and even kept using it through the synthetic Era. Great video! I'm glad my current oil of choice is up to Parr!👍
Good job in your testing and comparisons! You proved that all three oils do a good job protecting your engines. The small wear rate differences are probably insignificant and will fluctuate from one oil change to the next. I am more interested in how each oil held up. What was its viscosity after 4000 miles? Was it still a 30 weight or did it thin to a 20 weight or thicken to a 40 weight? Was it trending to nearly a 20 weight, so you wouldn’t want to run 8000 miles? What was the oxidation level? Comparing the new oil and used oil analysis, did the additive package last, was the zinc and phosphorus etc, still at a good level? I read a report from another you tuber a while back that showed his Mobil 1 lost grade to a 20 weight after only 4,000 miles. A quality long life oil should maintain viscosity longer than that. Thanks😊
Yup. No conclusive differences here, all the results were totally within margin of error and a difference of a few PPM likely isn't even repeatable. I realize he was trying to show differences, but as he said, what he really showed is that all tested oils worked well in these applications with no significant differences
I have always said that Mobil 1 is over hyped! In my cars I always have used Valvoline and in my Motorcycles I use Castrol Power 1. I have been in the professional automotive field for 25+ years and i can tell you that in the many engines i have seen disassembled you can always tell the ones that have had Valvoline used in them because the internals are super clean and a clean engine is a happy engine.
I use Pennzoil Ultra Platinum in my vehicles and have been extremely satisfied with it. Nothing wrong with any of these oils but I just prefer the Pennzoil.
i have 3800 series 3 supercharged, and 3.5 duractec both see severe driving so i change 2x per year every 6months, quaker state full synthetic both engines run smoothly
Used valvoline products for about 45years. Tried different oils back in the 70s Quaker state etc. valvoline the only oil that would go without having to add any oil between changes. All others used 1 quart between changes. Same vehicle. 71 ford galaxy 500 with 351. Hard to change after that. Prefer it in all gas engines lawnmower to trucks.
So many powertrain types, many models of cars, SUVs, Vans, and Trucks. Where do you start? Climate, terrain, environment, the driver's habits, how many vehicle startups, idling time. Got me as too many factors. Conventional Oil is becoming the past time as Full Synthetic is the new norm. Oil changes used to be 3K miles, now 5K to 10K miles, or every 6 months. It all depends on the individual owner. As for myself, it is every 6 months or 5K miles whichever comes first. Back in the 1980s I used Castrol, then later went to Valvoline quick change, have used Pennzoil many times, and now my new vehicle's MFR owner's manual wants Mobile One. Guess what? As long as you change the oil on a timely interval according to the label on the vehicle, the engine should last 150K up to 300K. Let's say the typical average miles driven each year is 15K, which means your vehicle should last you 10 years or longer provided you maintain and clean your vehicle. Crude oil is refined and how it affects your vehicle may depend on where the Crude Oil came from rather than the Company Refinery. Oh! what is Synthetic Oil composed/made of?
Did it take Blackstone a month to get you your results? I'm about 21 days out and waiting since they received my sample and are claiming they're still backlogged from the holidays...which might be true but for some, waiting that long for a critical oil test isn't practical. I'll have to use a faster lab next time around.
Personal favorite(hands down) is Pennzoil Ultra, my 2014 F150 ecoboost loves it. Second choice i'm curious about is the Valvoline high milage max life(next oil change)since my truck has 92k thus far. Pennzoil high milage seems good but the fuel economy is lacking. Third choice, i'd like to try is the Amazon basics. Cheaper than both Valvoline and Pennzoil with a really good AD package as well.
@@CWB1863I daily to work a 93 Ford ranger with the 2.3l 5sp, I bought it 13 years ago with 223,000 miles for $1400! I've used only the Valvoline high mileage synthetic blend and truck now currently has 508,000+ miles. Still rocking the original engine transmission and rear end! I've changed the oil between 3000-3500 miles religiously. No tics taps or raps...... Also have changed the transmission fluid in the manual transmission at least 4 times and rear differential at least twice.
Been changing oil every 3,000 miles since 1985 using about every brand on the shelf, haven't had one single engine failure to date, in over a dozen different kinds of motors.Two of these had carburetors, no problems.
Valvoline is what I run 90% of the time. Problem is that it sells out quick at my local Wally World so I gotta use another brand some of the time. Castrol is usually my secondary choice.
I’ve been changing my own motor all for 30+ years recently bought a Chevrolet that recommended dexos so i got castoil dextos oil and after 5000 miles it was the cleanest oil I’ve ever seen. Can you do a video on this?
Well done and thank you. But as you basically said one or two PPM is so small. Furthermore, the tests have a degree of tolerance so likely if they retested all you might see different results. Last, I would I have liked to see how the Silicon looked and the oil filtration data. In addition, to the water, fuel contamination and Cst 100C test for Viscosity.
Thanks for the testing and video. Given that all these oils are virtually identical, with 'slight' edge to Pennzoil, I would opt for whichever oil is cheapest and affords you more frequent oil changes.
I vote for Penzoil Ultra Platinum 5W30. My 6 speed manual takes a beating 250k miles 5k oil change intervals doesn't burn or leak a drop of oil and sees the rev limiter more then it should everyday. 0-60 in about 5.2 seconds so it's a fun daily driver
@@whatyaknowjoe67 Dam I didn't include that haha. I was up for about 21 hours after working 12. I was really beat it's my 6th 12 hour day in a row. It's a Acura TL J series V6
@@PeterAngles-jq7gr Newer performance cars are definitely quicker but for it's age and a quarter million miles it still runs with it being FWD you just have to have the right tires for grip. I use Continental DWS06+ tires. I haven't lost many street races with it in the years I've owned it 🤣 the last one I lost was to a newer 370Z with flames shooting out the back and that was me vs a old Chevelle and the Nissan. I still surpassed the classic muscle car
Does the picture at 1:22 reflect the correct weights by comparison on each vehicle? For overall deposits and cleanliness I wonder about the natural gas based Pennz since NG is trash free by nature. Ive been running M1 for decades and changing @ 5 ,000. Ditto for my newest car.
I noticed that the Pennzoil brags about being made from natural gas (CH4). Mobil 1 used to be made from acetylene gas (C2H2), but i heard they went back to using crude oil. Does making the oil from a gas make a difference?
You can thank Castrol for that.. They won the lawsuit in 1999. Many synthetic oils now if produced before 1999 would be considered regular mineral oil.
I have over 304,000 miles on my tacoma and pull a trailer 90% of the time. Since new 2000I've used valvaline conventional 10w30 changed oil every 4000 miles. In the last couple years they quit carrying conventional oil now it's all synthetic so I've been using the valvaline synthetic blend high mileage oil , probably switch too fully synthetic next time I buy oil
Remember, there are NO set industry "standards" that define how much synthetic oil is to be contained in a "blend".... Oil manufactures won't tell you because the percentage of synthetic in a blend is embarrassingly LOW, maybe 10-15-20% of a "blend" is synthetic.... For ME, it's Valvoline 5W-20 FULL SYNTHETIC HIGH MILEAGE in my 08 RAM 5.7 HEMI, the ONLY oil used after the odometer hit 12K miles when new....
great video i'm debating if keep putting oem oil in my rav 4 or gp with one of these . My old camry over 350k used cheapest oil conventional 3k no issue with engine . New rav been using oem wanna make a switch leaning towards valv or penz but i hear toyota uses mobil 1 with their added potion
The only off the shelf oil that I actually seen with real world results is Castrol Edge. All others did not give me a temperature drop and better mileage. Talked to an oil expert about this and he said some synthetics have been known to lower engine temps. Two different cars with using Castrol Syntec and the renamed Castrol Edge.
This is awesome to see, thanks for the video. Just wondering can you make another video showing-off oil comparisons after one or more years of oil changes (below 5000 miles preferably)? Cause I've heard that changing your oil every six-months is also worthwhile to insure the oil does not degrade.
My mom told me she could feel the difference in how her car ran after I put Ultra Platinum in it. My car has almost 200,000 miles and runs just as well as when I got it and I’ve only been using Penzzoil.
Valvoline Extended Performance ! Great price and a great additive package. And unlike Pennzoil Ultra Platinum, which is a great oil, it’s quite a bit less and readily available.
In the real world Mobil 1 does a sensational job stopping wear. 487,000 miles on a Toyota pickup 4 cylinder and still like new compression on all cylinders, minimal oil consumption and no wear on the most wear prone parts of the valve train.
I click on this at 6am, the opening music is tooooooooooooo loud, so I quickly fast forwarded the video. We have a 2007 Camrey and a 2013 RAV4 both 2.5 liter 4 cylinders, 64K miles on the Camery and 106K on the RAV. We also use 5W-20 on the Camrey & 0W-20 on the RAV, the Camrey for the years 2006-2009 used lower tension rings on it pistons so it has a small amount of oil that passes and it requires maybe a half a quart to keep the dip stick full over the course of a 3000 mile oil change, the RAV does not have any oil passage/consumption over the 3000 change cycle, both cars also have mag plugs for the oil pan drain plugs. What I notice was a slight dark film around both plugs on oil changes, not much but you can see it when you wipe it off with a white paper towel. We been using the Pennzoil Platinum brand on both cars and get it in the 5qt jugs from WalMart, what is your opinion on the mag plug film, just did oil changes on the both of them over the last two weeks.
We had a major motor oil manufacturer sponsor our IndyCar team way back in the 80's. We were also running their oil in our engines... and losing those engines regularly. Upon teardown, it was determined that the oil was the cause. So we had to tell our multimillion-dollar sponsor that their oil was crap. Well, they took it quite well actually. Maybe they already knew. Anyway, we devised a solution. They would ship us cases of their branded, but empty oil bottles and we would fill those empty bottles up with off-the-shelf Mobil 1 synthetic. That way, the fans who were milling about in the paddocks would see us using what they thought was our sponsors' oil in our million-dollar engines but in fact, we were not. After we made the switch, we had no more oil-related failures. That was an expensive lesson that luckily, I didn't have to pay for. So to this day, I've only used Mobil 1 in all my vehicles
Valvoline EP HM vs. Pennzoil platinum high mileage I like the pennzoil cause it's much quieter but I got the valvoline at a bargain. I might try some pennzoil ultra platinum but generally I like high mileage oils for the add pack and conditioning of my seals.
I've got a buick with a 3.8 v6. Wonderful engine . I run Mobil 1.5 -30. I have 120,000 miles on it . It doesn't use any.i plan on continued use. Of course I don't drie the crap out of it ,but occasionally I'll put it down. I think mobil1 is a decent synthetic brand.
I just did my first oil change at 37k. The dealer did the prior service. I noticed less timing chain rattle with the Valvoline. Gas mileage may have decreased, not sure yet.
Mobile one oil filters were best over all in a test I saw. Where they tested against k&n supertech. Overall in both flow and filtration and filtration capacity
Keep in mind the oil spec required for your engine must me followed, not a specific brand. For example my Dodge 3.6 must use 5W20 that meets spec MS-6395. Not all 5W20's meet this spec. Read the fine print on the bottle.
The test protocols were not covered. The proper way to do these is to flush the engine between tests for several operational hours using the same oil brand/type for each flush. Not flushing will negatively impact the first oil "tested". Doing back to back tests without flushing will bias each test by the residual effects of the previous oil used. Any issues with the emissions control system will affect tests unpredictably.
Agree…I did make sure to leave each oil drain for at least 20 min. Whatever residual I would expect to be minimal. But yes I’m sure there are some cavities in the engine where there might be some oil remaining. I did rotate which oil I started with between vehicles. Based on the results there was minimal PPM difference. Maybe extended run time would have shown more separation between the brands…but final conclusion…change your oil at 5k miles and probably generally speaking any oil will suffice.
Blackstone labs is not known for accurate fuel dilution testing. They use an outdated method. All other labs use Gas Chromatography. Until you get to more than a double digit difference in wear metals, anything less is statistical insignificant and well within the accuracy of the test equipment. Pennzoil is a long drain oil, changing at 4k is not comming close to its life expectancy. FordBossMe makes the same mistakes. MACTFORDEDGE tested 3 dozen oils. He did new oil reference test and each oil was ran for 10k on the highway. Amsoil is a superior oil, but you wont see a difference if you change at 4k or even 6k. If you want compare oil, need to do new oil reference and sample oil at 10k, and compare viscosity, TBN, oxidation, additive change as well as wear.
Very interesting. It is not just about the oil but the oil filter. A few parts per million difference is not that significant. In my opinion, they are all good oils.
Each engine is different especially in tolerances because each engine is its own. If possible I feel you should have did this test on one engine changing only the brand of oil. Any thoughts?
Very challenging…doing on one engine would put the different oils in different outside temperature ranges…ie: first oil is tested in fall time (avg temp 55 deg?) then next oils would be ran during the winter months (avg temp 25 deg?) and so on. With multiple cars you hope to see some kind of trend. Hard to eliminate variables.
@@whatyaknowjoe67 Maybe cost? Here in Australia Shell (Pennzoil equivalent) is more expensive, Or perhaps Valvoline has a slightly larger range of types of 5W30 full synthetic like: - Synpower - Synpower FE - Synpower MST C3 ($81.99 AUD full retail) - Synpower XL-III C3 From memory they used to have even more.... Whereas in Australia with Shell: - Helix Ultra ECT C3 ($96 AUD full retail) - HX8 - Helix Ultra X (A3/B4 SN plus) I personally use Shell Helix Ultra, But I do try other brands from time to time 🤷♂ (except Amsoil since it's harder to obtain, and ludicrously expensive to the point that I could ALMOST do 2 oil changes for the same OIL COST as a single Amsoil oil change)
Remember we are talking parts per million on the report. Any of the three will do just fine. Thanks for watching…be sure to subscribe for more tests coming
I use Casrtol GTX on my 2012 challenger V6 pentastar and the 2014 chysler 300 also with the pentastar. I've had good luck with the GTX 5w20 and 5w30 full synthetic. Once I tried mobile one in the challenger and the car didn't run right. I immediately switched back to Castrol. I also tried Pennzoil Pennzoil 5w20 in the 300 and it seemed the engin ran hotter. Now my 2019 Ram 1500 hemi also uses Casrtol Casrtol 5w20 full synthetic and to me that's a great oil. Also mobile one didnt list any MS number for Chrysler , Dodge or Ram as a recommended oil. Castrol is a good for high temperatures and stop and go traffic.
You talked about three oil brands tested in four vehicles, and showed three viscosities. Did you run the recommended viscosity of each brand in each vehicle? That means that you put 4000 miles on each brand for a total of 12000 miles on each vehicle. And one car contaminated all three brands for 12000 miles? That's a lot of driving. Is it a fleet situation? Are they driven in the same environments? Lot's of ?'s.
Recommended viscosity in each vehicle. Pennzoil vs Mobil 1 in car 1, Mobil 1 vs Valvoline in car 2, Mobil 1 vs Pennzoil in car 3, Mobil 1 vs Pennzoil in car 4. Looking to do more testing of the Valvoline in the future along with amsoil.
So your tests were not direct. You were comparing brand A viscosity 1 to brand B viscosity 1 in one vehicle, brand C viscosity 2 to brand D viscosity 2 in a second vehicle, etc. But you did not compare brand A viscosity 1 with brand C viscosity 1. You can't expect to actually compare Mobil 1 in a pickup truck to Valvoline in a car.@@whatyaknowjoe67
@@whatyaknowjoe67 look up 540RAT oil testing, he did some extensive testing of oils and the Mobile 1 0w40 European blend came in second over a bunch of oils he tested. 👍
Irv Gordan’s Volvo went over 3,000,000 miles using Castrol GTX. I know guys that went well over 300,000 miles in there vehicles with only conventional oil. Best oil is clean oil. Change your oil when you can’t see the oil level lines through the oil. Over fifty five years of doing it this way and never ever had an engine problem. But what do I know. 😁
I really like Valvoline and Pennzoil Platinum, recently I got a good deal on some Kirkland full synthetic 5w 20 oil, Kinda having buyers remorse, it is a Costco brand oil, but I have never used it before. It's also not Advanced or Platinum. Is there any feedback for this Kirkland full synthetic oil out there?
Yes, ExxonMobil makes Toyota Genuine Motor Oil (TGMO). It has a different addiitive pack than regular Mobil 1 though, with typically MUCH higher molybdenum in TGMO. Virgin oil analysis has shown over 700 ppm moly in TGMO.
I ran Mobil 1 in PT cruiser. Oil changes at 10,000 miles. Engine went 197,000 miles with no oil burning. Was still running great. the rest of the car was done.
I’ve tried Pennzoil Platinum, Valvoline Advanced and Mobil 1 Extended Performance High Mileage in my car and so far I’ve liked how the Mobil 1 has performed the best. The Mobil 1 has been noticeably quieter than the others with Pennzoil at a close second. Valvoline made my car sound like a sewing machine for all three oil changes I tried it in. I will be sticking with Mobil 1 for sure.
To be fair, Mobil 1 was the first oil tested in each test, going by mileage on the test results sheets. Could there be some previous oil (of lower quality) leftover in the engine (most definitely) skewing the results? Testing should have included going back and re-testing Mobil 1 at the end to see if there were any changes in the results.
I've not had a single internal engine problem in twenty years of using Mobile 1 5w-30. and surpassed 350.000 miles on one of my vehicles , but I think any of the premium synthetic oils will give similar results if changed on a regular basis.
I have had great luck with amsoil 0w30. The 16 and 20 was where I live are to thin in the hot weather my buddy replaces engines constantly just due to thin oils. The manufacturer won’t help you when the engine goes bad … especially with turbos the oils are to thin that’s just EPA bs… look up engine replacements for your vehicle you drive…another friend drives a Kia she is on her third engine replacement another is on her second OILS are TOOOOO THIN. 0w30 will not void any warranty the dealer could never determine the viscosity if that is an issue for you
Engine oil is commonly 250 degrees Fahrenheit in engines. Do you think it matters to the oil if it is 90 Fahrenheit outside? You have no idea why 'your buddy constantly replaces engines' And yes, a lab can identify the weight of an oil. Idiot
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Thanks for the shout-out buddy
No problem…keep up the good work, enjoy watching your channel.
The Ford Boss certainly knows his oil.
I've had Valvoline in my cars for more years than the other two. I've had Pennzoil and Mobile 1 also in my cars for a number of years. Any of the three, as you mentioned, are quality products however, the most important thing is to change the oil regularly. That means changing the oil way before the oil life feature in most cars reaches all the way down to 0%. Many TH-cam channels had jumped on this mindset with many failed engine tear downs of engines that were neglected. The Chevy Trax is a good example where the small displacement engine (1.4 liter in the Trax) with a turbo charger that makes boost to beat on the small 1.4 liter even harder needs to have clean oil. The manufactures of oil with their outrageous claims of extended oil change intervals out to 20,000 is complete nonsense. These small 1.4-liter turbo charged engines with only 5 oil changes in the first (and probably last) 100,000 is neglect to the level of insanity. The Trax only holds 4.2 quarts of oil and will not hold up to even 10,000-mile oil changes. A TH-camr tore down a Toyota Camry engine with 180,000 that not only failed but grenaded because the owner adhered to Toyota's recommend 10,000 oil change intervals. At 120,000 miles the engine was already consuming a quart of oil every 1,000 miles which is the beginning of the end. Higher consumption at 140,000 to 150,000. Near the end of life for the engine. Costly - really costly. That Camry is Toast. There is data to back this up with high rates of turbo charger failing in the Trax. Why? because of oil having too much contamination and the oil inlet pipe from the engine suppling oil to the turbo is routed right behind the exhaust manifold and will clog up with burn oil deposits. That is a $2K to $3K mistake and will happen long before the Trax gets to 100,000 miles. Oil is cheaper than turbo chargers and/or engine failures. My rule of thumb is changing the oil at 50% oil life indicated in the dash. The engine and turbo have a much better chance to make it to 100,000 and beyond.
Agree 100%. Thanks for the comment!
That camry was 183k miles not 140k miles
@@digitalcamaraderie5685 I updated my comment above to reflect the high oil consumption at 120,000 and engine failure at 180,000. At 120,000 to consume a quart of oil every 1,000 is the beginning of the end.
Changing the oil at 50% on my car means Changing it every 2500 miles. Thats silly. 5k is good enough for me with a high quality synthetic and good filter
@@kychristell1779 Some car's reportedly have a 10,000 oil interval on the internal computer, which is what the OP was specifically targeting I suspect. Cause yeah my RAV4 TRD and 2011 Honda Accord have 5,000 mile maintenance minders as well. But I've also heard that changing your oil at 4000 miles (particularly turbocharged vehicles) will help insure engine longevity. But either way as long as you change your oil at 5,000-6000 miles or less, it seems like you're good (no matter what engine it is). You almost never hear of engines blowing up with 5000 mile oil changes.
Those are my 3 preferred oil brands so I’m glad you tested them. I’ve settled on using Mobil 1 in my naturally aspirated V-8 truck engine and I use the Pennzoil Platinum in both my 2 Litre turbo engines. For some reason the Valvoline is harder to find in my area otherwise I may have used that in the V-8 over the years. No matter what brand of oil, proper change intervals are key to a long engine life. Great video, thanks for the info.
Thanks for the comment!
i change my oil/filter every 3K-3,500K max in my 2021 VW MK7.5 GTI , so yes, the minimal differences in these tests so it’s kind of irrelevant.. if it’s good enough for Porsche from the factory.. that’s saying something
I’ve been using Synthetic oil since 1980 on my Subaru I purchased new a 1990 Nissan Pick up truck had it for 13 years only used Mob8l 1 with Fram oil filters. I started just changing the filter every 5k miles and the oil with filter every 10k miles. I had it for 13 years and the engine ran very good. No excessive oil consumption and the truck mpg never changed. I feel that all three oils you tested are very good for almost any vehicle now made. Very good video.
Thanks for watching…more to come
@@robertj4454 Can you point me in the direction of where you saw those tests on oil filters? I can believe that Wix would be best, though I've also heard that purolator is among the best as well.
Ive been using Mobil 1 full synthetic oil since the day it hit the store. After Using it for over two decades in 5 different vehicles, I had zero issues in any of the vehicles.
Same here…was just curious if there was anything better
I think valvoline is better
@@issavibez394 It is better but Mobil 1 is still a great choice.
Thanks Joe. My self being a mechanic dating back to 1960. Here is my thoughts. I have done extensive research and study in the development of motor oils. You can only imagine the advancements in the technologies of motor oils and engine design. A lot has changed and continues to change. What was good in an 8BA Ford flat head cannot be compared to anything in todays engines. Today we have some of the absolute best engine oils the industry can supply. All the brands you invested in are all good in and of themselves. Here is my pick. Have used Mobile One for many years in many applications. I have only recently changed to Pennzoil Ultra Platinum. Oil changes are the best investment for longevity. Thanks again, the Old school guy.
I’m having problems finding ultra platinum by me.
Back in the early 1990s, the police department I worked for began using the Mobile 1 oil in our police cars. If I remember correctly we had a mix of Ford Crown Vics and Chevrolet Caprices. Our mechanic changed the oil every 10,000 miles. Now if people don’t know, police cars get a lot of idling time (just like taxis) and the engine runs probably 3X for every mile driven. Some cars ran 24 hours per day on all 3 shifts. From idling to emergency response and vehicle pursuits, they get a lot of wear. We never had an engine fail due to lubrication issues. So I began using the same rule of 10,000 miles per oil change, figuring if police engines could do it my personal car could do it. I’ve done that in the decades since and I have never had an engine failure related to the engine oil. Mobile1 isn’t cheap, but when you factor in the oil change ratio of 3:1, it’s not really more expensive.
thank you for your very interesting feedback!
I’m concerned about Turbos and timing chains / can phasers these days.
@@whatyaknowjoe67Truth. No VVT/phasers in the late, great 4.6L 2-valve
I remember Mobil 1 doing an experiment with a Las Vegas taxi company. For whatever reason, it was against conventional oil. But they used their oil and conventional oil for 10k mile intervals and disassembled the engines after 100k miles. The conventional oil engine was severely varnished. The Mobil 1 engine looked brand new. I've used Mobil 1 ever since I saw this experiment.
thanks for sharing that@@albaker2938
Thanks for the data and I agree that they all look good. In all cases I believe the frequency of oil and filter changes is the most critical element.
Thanks for watching!
I've been using Valvoline in all my cars. Advanced for 2 and High mileage for the other 2. I used to use Mobil 1, then i went to Super tech for awhile. Once i started using Valvoline oils, what a difference. My vehicles just like Valvoline. I also tried Pennzoil Ultra Platinum, but I just didnt get the hype. I'm a Valvoline guy now, but in general, the others are good as well. Great video and informative. Thanks
Thanks for the comment and experience
would be very helpful to everyone if u mention which cars/engines u have had good fortune with using the Valvoline. Each car brand and engine tends to like particular oils more than others.
i always used Valvoline, once i started using Liqui Moly oil, and my car became really sluggish, first i didnt knew why.
After going back to Valvoline the engine came alive !
How did you know the cars like valvoline? Based on what, exactly?
It felt like i lost some kind of torque when using other oil than Valvoline. It felt like parts in the engine block are not working efficiently. Everything came back to normal after using Valvoline..
I had the same experience when switching to Mobil 1, Castrol, Bardahl, or Liqui Moly.
There is another oil that give the same excellent feeling Motul Econergy. If i cant find Valvoline my second option would be Motul.
Thank you for your oil testing. The video is 4mo old. I'm glad it popped up for me ! I like the boss also.
No problem…thanks for watching. More testing to come
Valvoline or Napa full synthetic for me. Napa if they run their on sale 3-4 times a year. Napa is made by Valvoline. The best for the price!
Interesting
Over the past 4 years, ive converted from being a Castrol guy to Valvoline. Its always consistent in all these tests.
I’ll be doing more testing with the Valvoline
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say, as long as you are using an oil from a recognized manufacturer, and a quality filter, the biggest difference is going to be in the frequency of your changes. I bought an F-150 than had about 28.5K on it, but oil change indicator said 28% left before next change. Since I was so close to an even mileage, I put in a good oil, ran it until 30K, then changed out using my preferred Mobil 1 Truck & SUV 5W30 blend at religious 5K increments. Truck is still running great. Pulls my trailer like a champ, and no break downs to date.
I agree. Change oil more frequently when driving under severe conditions…when looking at the owners manual looks more like just normal driving
You are spot on !!!! Frequency of oil change is the real key !!!! :-)
Ford Boss Me oil test encouraged me to switch from Mobile 1 to penzoil ultra platinum and now I just used for the first time the valvoline synthetic. I’m really pleased with the penzoil and I’m sure I’ll be happy with the valvoline. I use the fram ultra synthetic per Boss’ testing and it I’m really pleased with how this filter works. Thanks for posting.
Wix oil filter is a good filter and probably better than Fram. There’s been several test and usually comes out on top. Just a second opinion
He likes the Valvoline as well. Easier to find that I found
@@whatyaknowjoe67the Valvoline Extended Performance.
Mobile one is overpriced and heavily marketed. Can’t beat Penzoil ULTRA platinum for the price and it’s one of the best you can buy for any price. Valvoline products are very very good as well.
I’m leaning towards Valvoline
Pennzoil ultra was difficult to find in my area…had to order online. Have you experienced the same?
Ultra is hard to find and $$$
Mobil 1 5 quart jugs at walmart were least expensive of the 3 for years. I was running 0w40 euro M1 for years buying 5 quart jugs for $23-$24 bucks in USA. Prices are higher now as we all know all 3 are good oils.
FWIW...Amazon sells 3-pak of 5-qt.Pennzoil Ultra Platinum 5W-30 for $72.00 right now. That's about $4.80 @qt. Buying single-pak of the same, they charge more than twice as much. Go figure.
I have an 07 Chevy Avalanche that I bought used. When I first got it I switched to Mobil 1 synthetic. I would get a tapping sound on startup and at times it would last 30 seconds or more. I recently switched to Pennzoil Ultra Platinum and almost never have the tapping sound and when I do it only lasts about 1-2 seconds at the very most. The engine also sounds quieter and smoother with the Pennzoil vs Mobil 1. Pennzoil Ultra Platinum synthetic will be the only thing I run in my truck from now on and when I use the last jug of Mobil 1 in my car, I will switch that over to Pennzoil Ultra Platinum as well.
I have heard that same comment from a lot of people. I’m going to try the Valvoline. Ultra is too hard to find around me
I never understood the hype for mobil 1.
My first car was a Ford escape v6 I ran Castrol.... I put 200,000 trouble free miles on it i tried Mobil and i found it produced more blowby.
@@leadnsteel1428 I think years ago Mobil 1 was a lot better but in recent years there’s been other companies that have come out with better quality oils. I know that a lot of people have had a lot of success with running regular oil for hundreds of thousands of miles but for some reason I feel better running synthetic, especially since I live in Texas and the summers can be pretty hot. Synthetic oil stands up to heat better. That’s a big reason I run synthetic. But that’s just me.
Ultra platinum is the best oil per dollar. Amsoil is just barely better and its 4 times as high
@@evanhovis9126 I agree. If Amsoil was the same price as the other synthetic oils I might give it a try but I’m not going to pay the price they want for an oil that’s not much better than the other good synthetic oils.
Im a Valvoline guy it needs more love.
I used to run Castrol and i liked it.
Castrol in car. Valvoline in bike. Mobile 1 in atv
I will be doing more testing and including Castrol
Castrol is low quality
Valvoline 1st, Penzoil 2nd M1 3rd. All good oils, but Valvoline and Penzoil have a slight edge. Penzoil ultra platinum is very, very good oil. Amsoil is 1st from all the testing I've seen.
I hope to put amsoil to the test
Excellent video! I have been using Mobil 1 since the Toyota Dealership told me that its the best but after watching this video and fewer others I will be using Valvoline Advanced Full Synthetic on the next Oil Change. Thank you so much for the test results.
All good oils…but yes, I think I will be switching over to Valvoline as well.
Toyota says Mobil 1 is best because Mobil makes Toyota's branded oil.
@@berniemadoff7837
That’s true about Mobil & Toyota.
You think I should give Valvoline Full Synthetic a shot?
I used to use Mobil 1 and switched to Pennzoil ultra platinum since Amsoil signature is almost the same yet much more expensive. But I do use Amsoil oil filter which goes down to 20microns. My 2006 Acura RL runs amazing
Hoping to be testing amsoil in the near future
I started using Mobil 1 in 1977 and used it exclusively until about 5 years ago in over 40 different vehicles. A gear-head friend of mine who follows things like oil testing regularly told me at that time that Pennzoil was surpassing Mobil 1 in test results. Especially a 'shear' test. I switched to Pennzoil Platinum then and have stuck with it. I also use Rotella T6 synthetic in my Cummins diesel pusher motorhome (11 gallon oil changes!) and in my Yamaha Grizzly quad.
Ultra platinum is better than platinum.
I like that Rotella as well…ran it on my quad for a while as well
Yes, Ultra is better but it's meant for high performance engines like high horsepower SRT's for example. I didn't think I needed to go that extreme for my stuff. @@evanhovis9126
@@evanhovis9126unfortunately, ultra platinum doesn’t come in high mileage version like the platinum
Great content. I love Pennzoil ultra platinum!
Thanks for watching….hoping to do more tests in the future
Ultra Platinum has very good cold-flow properties.
@@ChicagoRob2amsoil says its parrafin wax and doesnt flow. Such liars
I just purchased a 2022 Chev. Silverado. I think I'm gonna go with Pennzoil Ultra Platinum!
Lot of folks like the Pennzoil. I will have more test results coming comparing it to Valvoline. Stay tuned!
Toyota Corolla owner - Canada. I use whichever 0W-16 is on sale. I suspect they are all equally good.
Mobil 1 0W-16
Penzoil Platinum 0W-16
Valvoline 0W-16
Castrol Edge 0W-16
Toyota 0W-16 = Made by Exxon which makes Mobil 1
Change interval is more important than brand....
5,000 miles or six months - whichever comes first.
I bring my car to the dealer to change the oil every 4 months.
It makes me feel better about myself knowing that I've purposefully changed at an earlier interval than is recommended. That way I know I've done everything possible to extend the life of the engine.
I agree with the 5000 mile as well
When I bought my 08 RAM 5.7 HEMI new, I asked the service manager - Mike - what oil he would recommend. His said to use only Valvoline, since it leaves NO deposits, gunk, or other dark crap in the engine and under the valve covers, and now after 157775 miles, my HEMI runs silent, NO vibrations, NO "HEMI tick", kinda like a big ass watch with its quietness.... I have always used the Valvoline 5W-20 full synthetic, except for the first 12K miles on "regular" oil. I am now using the high mileage product. With this last oil change, I added 8 ounces, (6.75 qts x 1.2 oz/qt = 8 ounces), of the ARCHOIL AR9100 friction modifier. NOW, everyone's vehicle ALWAYS runs/sounds "better" just after an oil change, BUT, I DO notice a more responsive engine with this additive and the next fill-up, ( I use E-0 - 90 octane exclusively), I will hopefully see an improved MPG. Thank you for your informative video...... F J B....
Thanks for the “real world” experience and comment
Great experiment! Curious though, did you use the same brand oil filter throughout the tests?
Yes I did…OEM
@@whatyaknowjoe67nice! For the past couple years I've been using the Penzzoil platinum. It's the best on budget in my area, and I'm happy with It's performance. I was always using Castrol, ever since way back in the conventional oil days, and even kept using it through the synthetic Era. Great video! I'm glad my current oil of choice is up to Parr!👍
1999 Plymouth Grand Voyager 499,787 miles.
Valvoline full synthetic believer!!!
Impressive!
Good job in your testing and comparisons! You proved that all three oils do a good job protecting your engines. The small wear rate differences are probably insignificant and will fluctuate from one oil change to the next. I am more interested in how each oil held up. What was its viscosity after 4000 miles? Was it still a 30 weight or did it thin to a 20 weight or thicken to a 40 weight? Was it trending to nearly a 20 weight, so you wouldn’t want to run 8000 miles? What was the oxidation level? Comparing the new oil and used oil analysis, did the additive package last, was the zinc and phosphorus etc, still at a good level? I read a report from another you tuber a while back that showed his Mobil 1 lost grade to a 20 weight after only 4,000 miles. A quality long life oil should maintain viscosity longer than that. Thanks😊
Email me at whayknowjoe67@gmail.com and I will send you copies of the reports.
Yup. No conclusive differences here, all the results were totally within margin of error and a difference of a few PPM likely isn't even repeatable. I realize he was trying to show differences, but as he said, what he really showed is that all tested oils worked well in these applications with no significant differences
I have always said that Mobil 1 is over hyped! In my cars I always have used Valvoline and in my Motorcycles I use Castrol Power 1. I have been in the professional automotive field for 25+ years and i can tell you that in the many engines i have seen disassembled you can always tell the ones that have had Valvoline used in them because the internals are super clean and a clean engine is a happy engine.
Thanks for the comment and experience
Mobil 1 engines are also super clean and little to no wear.
I use Pennzoil Ultra Platinum in my vehicles and have been extremely satisfied with it. Nothing wrong with any of these oils but I just prefer the Pennzoil.
Nice…it’s hard to find in my area
I order it on Amazon@@whatyaknowjoe67
i have 3800 series 3 supercharged, and 3.5 duractec both see severe driving so i change 2x per year every 6months, quaker state full synthetic both engines run smoothly
How many miles are you putting on them between oil changes
@@whatyaknowjoe67 I do 5k oci
My three go to’s are kirkland,ultra platinum and amsoil. I only run the amsoil when I have a bypass filter due to cost.
Hope to be testing amsoil sometime in the future
Used valvoline products for about 45years. Tried different oils back in the 70s Quaker state etc. valvoline the only oil that would go without having to add any oil between changes. All others used 1 quart between changes. Same vehicle. 71 ford galaxy 500 with 351. Hard to change after that. Prefer it in all gas engines lawnmower to trucks.
More testing of the Valvoline in process
I only use Vavoline 5w-20 high mileage oil in my 1998 Ford F150 XL 4.2 L truck. It runs like a charm.
Was that the recommended weight oil back then?
So many powertrain types, many models of cars, SUVs, Vans, and Trucks. Where do you start? Climate, terrain, environment, the driver's habits, how many vehicle startups, idling time. Got me as too many factors. Conventional Oil is becoming the past time as Full Synthetic is the new norm. Oil changes used to be 3K miles, now 5K to 10K miles, or every 6 months. It all depends on the individual owner. As for myself, it is every 6 months or 5K miles whichever comes first. Back in the 1980s I used Castrol, then later went to Valvoline quick change, have used Pennzoil many times, and now my new vehicle's MFR owner's manual wants Mobile One. Guess what? As long as you change the oil on a timely interval according to the label on the vehicle, the engine should last 150K up to 300K. Let's say the typical average miles driven each year is 15K, which means your vehicle should last you 10 years or longer provided you maintain and clean your vehicle.
Crude oil is refined and how it affects your vehicle may depend on where the Crude Oil came from rather than the Company Refinery. Oh! what is Synthetic Oil composed/made of?
At 10 years here in the Midwest they rust out!
Did it take Blackstone a month to get you your results? I'm about 21 days out and waiting since they received my sample and are claiming they're still backlogged from the holidays...which might be true but for some, waiting that long for a critical oil test isn't practical. I'll have to use a faster lab next time around.
The tests in the video did not..but my two most recent test yes. Being told the same thing
@@whatyaknowjoe67 It's my first (and probably last) time using them. Not a good look for Blackstone.
Personal favorite(hands down) is Pennzoil Ultra, my 2014 F150 ecoboost loves it. Second choice i'm curious about is the Valvoline high milage max life(next oil change)since my truck has 92k thus far. Pennzoil high milage seems good but the fuel economy is lacking. Third choice, i'd like to try is the Amazon basics. Cheaper than both Valvoline and Pennzoil with a really good AD package as well.
I’m curious about the Amazon Basic as well
@@whatyaknowjoe67 Yeah right, what can it hurt, run it in your vehicle for 3k and see how it feels? 👍
@@CWB1863I daily to work a 93 Ford ranger with the 2.3l 5sp, I bought it 13 years ago with 223,000 miles for $1400! I've used only the Valvoline high mileage synthetic blend and truck now currently has 508,000+ miles. Still rocking the original engine transmission and rear end! I've changed the oil between 3000-3500 miles religiously. No tics taps or raps...... Also have changed the transmission fluid in the manual transmission at least 4 times and rear differential at least twice.
Been changing oil every 3,000 miles since 1985 using about every brand on the shelf, haven't had one single engine failure to date, in over a dozen different kinds of motors.Two of these had carburetors, no problems.
Yep…more important than anything else is regular oil change frequency
Valvoline is what I run 90% of the time. Problem is that it sells out quick at my local Wally World so I gotta use another brand some of the time. Castrol is usually my secondary choice.
Might be testing Castrol down the road
I’ve been changing my own motor all for 30+ years recently bought a Chevrolet that recommended dexos so i got castoil dextos oil and after 5000 miles it was the cleanest oil I’ve ever seen. Can you do a video on this?
Possibly…thinking of trying amsoil as well. Just takes a while to accumulate the miles and try to keep things consistent as possible
My grand prix 05 gtp does great on that. Been using it since new in 06
Well done and thank you. But as you basically said one or two PPM is so small. Furthermore, the tests have a degree of tolerance so likely if they retested all you might see different results. Last, I would I have liked to see how the Silicon looked and the oil filtration data. In addition, to the water, fuel contamination and Cst 100C test for Viscosity.
Working on more tests with the Valvoline vs Pennzoil right now with a little longer run time
Thanks for the testing and video. Given that all these oils are virtually identical, with 'slight' edge to Pennzoil, I would opt for whichever oil is cheapest and affords you more frequent oil changes.
Agree
I like pennzoil platinum high mileage for fall/winter and valvoline for spring/summer
Curious…what’s your reasoning for the two different brands?
Pennzoil and valvoline are my two favorite ones
I agree
I vote for Penzoil Ultra Platinum 5W30. My 6 speed manual takes a beating 250k miles 5k oil change intervals doesn't burn or leak a drop of oil and sees the rev limiter more then it should everyday. 0-60 in about 5.2 seconds so it's a fun daily driver
All decent oils…5k oil change interval is important. What kind of vehicle?
@@whatyaknowjoe67 Dam I didn't include that haha. I was up for about 21 hours after working 12. I was really beat it's my 6th 12 hour day in a row. It's a Acura TL J series V6
I get zero valvetrain noise on cold startup with my ‘17 Camry.
That was perfectly okay performance in 1998
Car is slow as shlt
@@PeterAngles-jq7gr Newer performance cars are definitely quicker but for it's age and a quarter million miles it still runs with it being FWD you just have to have the right tires for grip. I use Continental DWS06+ tires. I haven't lost many street races with it in the years I've owned it 🤣 the last one I lost was to a newer 370Z with flames shooting out the back and that was me vs a old Chevelle and the Nissan. I still surpassed the classic muscle car
Does the picture at 1:22 reflect the correct weights by comparison on each vehicle?
For overall deposits and cleanliness I wonder about the natural gas based Pennz since NG is trash free by nature.
Ive been running M1 for decades and changing @ 5 ,000.
Ditto for my newest car.
Yes correct weight per vehicle.
I noticed that the Pennzoil brags about being made from natural gas (CH4). Mobil 1 used to be made from acetylene gas (C2H2), but i heard they went back to using crude oil.
Does making the oil from a gas make a difference?
Good question…I’m guessing all marketing
It's a different base stock and the pennzoil ultra is a superior oil to Mobil 1
You can thank Castrol for that.. They won the lawsuit in 1999. Many synthetic oils now if produced before 1999 would be considered regular mineral oil.
I have over 304,000 miles on my tacoma and pull a trailer 90% of the time. Since new 2000I've used valvaline conventional 10w30 changed oil every 4000 miles. In the last couple years they quit carrying conventional oil now it's all synthetic so I've been using the valvaline synthetic blend high mileage oil , probably switch too fully synthetic next time I buy oil
Nice!
Remember, there are NO set industry "standards" that define how much synthetic oil is to be contained in a "blend".... Oil manufactures won't tell you because the percentage of synthetic in a blend is embarrassingly LOW, maybe 10-15-20% of a "blend" is synthetic.... For ME, it's Valvoline 5W-20 FULL SYNTHETIC HIGH MILEAGE in my 08 RAM 5.7 HEMI, the ONLY oil used after the odometer hit 12K miles when new....
great video i'm debating if keep putting oem oil in my rav 4 or gp with one of these . My old camry over 350k used cheapest oil conventional 3k no issue with engine . New rav been using oem wanna make a switch leaning towards valv or penz but i hear toyota uses mobil 1 with their added potion
I think I am going to stay with Mobil one. Easy to find, on sale quite often, OEM oil for many high performance vehicles.
Also…I do have some more test results coming comparing Val and penn
The only off the shelf oil that I actually seen with real world results is Castrol Edge. All others did not give me a temperature drop and better mileage. Talked to an oil expert about this and he said some synthetics have been known to lower engine temps. Two different cars with using Castrol Syntec and the renamed Castrol Edge.
Been hearing a lot about Castrol…might have to test in a future video
Temp drop ???.....nothing to do with oil....its controls by the water thermostat.
Go talk to Lake Speed Jr, , Neither you or I are experts in this field but , rMr. Speed is, I will defer to him.@@mannybudhu3905
This can happen. Many years ago I had a Honda motorcycle which for some reason ran noticeably cooler on Honda oil than Castrol.
@@mannybudhu3905some people don't understand how their vehicle works
Hiii I want to try Pennzoil Or Valvoline oil for my 2024 honda accord hybrid.. what filter should I use to get the best filtration?
I haven’t done any testing of oil filters…do my oil testing I just used the OEM brand. May not be the best, but it can’t be the worst neither
This is awesome to see, thanks for the video. Just wondering can you make another video showing-off oil comparisons after one or more years of oil changes (below 5000 miles preferably)? Cause I've heard that changing your oil every six-months is also worthwhile to insure the oil does not degrade.
Good point…I’ll see what I might be able to do.
been using Pennzoil Ultra Platinum 10w40 in my wife's Q5. 120k miles, burns no oil. change once a year.
All three are good oils
My mom told me she could feel the difference in how her car ran after I put Ultra Platinum in it.
My car has almost 200,000 miles and runs just as well as when I got it and I’ve only been using Penzzoil.
What else do you use in your wife's...
@@PeterAngles-jq7gr no additional additives save use only Shell premium
I am used to use mopar oil..is valvoline oil suitable and better to dodge charger 2014 v8 hemi for engine and transmission ?
I can’t make a recommendation on your vehicle. Check your owners manual
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Hoping to be testing amsoil in the future! Stay tuned
Valvoline Extended Performance !
Great price and a great additive package.
And unlike Pennzoil Ultra Platinum, which is a great oil, it’s quite a bit less and readily available.
Agreed
Pennzoil Ultra Platinum wasn't this expensive like 2 years ago. I've been using it and the price has blown up, especially 0W-20 for my Prius.
@@mrtdiverAll the newer cars are 0w20 , so that explains the price hike !
In the real world Mobil 1 does a sensational job stopping wear. 487,000 miles on a Toyota pickup 4 cylinder and still like new compression on all cylinders, minimal oil consumption and no wear on the most wear prone parts of the valve train.
Nice
Yes, love me some Mobil 1.
I click on this at 6am, the opening music is tooooooooooooo loud, so I quickly fast forwarded the video. We have a 2007 Camrey and a 2013 RAV4 both 2.5 liter 4 cylinders, 64K miles on the Camery and 106K on the RAV. We also use 5W-20 on the Camrey & 0W-20 on the RAV, the Camrey for the years 2006-2009 used lower tension rings on it pistons so it has a small amount of oil that passes and it requires maybe a half a quart to keep the dip stick full over the course of a 3000 mile oil change, the RAV does not have any oil passage/consumption over the 3000 change cycle, both cars also have mag plugs for the oil pan drain plugs. What I notice was a slight dark film around both plugs on oil changes, not much but you can see it when you wipe it off with a white paper towel. We been using the Pennzoil Platinum brand on both cars and get it in the 5qt jugs from WalMart, what is your opinion on the mag plug film, just did oil changes on the both of them over the last two weeks.
Hard to say…I would suggest sending an oil sample in for analysis. Only way to know for sure.
Regardless of the oil’s manufacturer, more frequent changes are more important.
Correct
We had a major motor oil manufacturer sponsor our IndyCar team way back in the 80's. We were also running their oil in our engines... and losing those engines regularly. Upon teardown, it was determined that the oil was the cause. So we had to tell our multimillion-dollar sponsor that their oil was crap. Well, they took it quite well actually. Maybe they already knew. Anyway, we devised a solution. They would ship us cases of their branded, but empty oil bottles and we would fill those empty bottles up with off-the-shelf Mobil 1 synthetic. That way, the fans who were milling about in the paddocks would see us using what they thought was our sponsors' oil in our million-dollar engines but in fact, we were not. After we made the switch, we had no more oil-related failures. That was an expensive lesson that luckily, I didn't have to pay for. So to this day, I've only used Mobil 1 in all my vehicles
Crazy what goes on behind the scenes sometimes…thanks for the story
How about doing a test with Fords base oil ,Motorcraft Synthetic Blend 5W30 & show us the good,bad & ugly of running a base oil.
I did compare the motor craft semi synthetic a while ago…Mobil one did better. But that was early in the ownership of the F150
I should have said on the Motorcraft test.
Valvoline High Milage Full Synthetic for me. Garage Box at Walmart $58 for 12 quarts. My GDI Turbo just seems to idle smoother with the Valvoline.
That’s a good price!
Valvoline EP HM vs. Pennzoil platinum high mileage
I like the pennzoil cause it's much quieter but I got the valvoline at a bargain.
I might try some pennzoil ultra platinum but generally I like high mileage oils for the add pack and conditioning of my seals.
Tried some high mileage in my son’s car…hasn’t really done anything for the leaking seals…but seems to be a good oil
I don't go past 3K no matter the oil.. Most of the time I will do a change around 2K to 2.5K.. I am over the top though...
I drive 30k a year…would be changing every month
I've got a buick with a 3.8 v6.
Wonderful engine .
I run Mobil 1.5 -30.
I have 120,000 miles on it .
It doesn't use any.i plan on continued use.
Of course I don't drie the crap out of it ,but occasionally I'll put it down.
I think mobil1 is a decent synthetic brand.
I agree… all are good oils. Oil change frequency is most important
Nov 26, 2023
ULTRA Platinum is $ 65 for a 5 wt jug at Walmart.
Mob1 is $ 29 for Extended.
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I just did my first oil change at 37k. The dealer did the prior service. I noticed less timing chain rattle with the Valvoline. Gas mileage may have decreased, not sure yet.
Thanks for sharing
Mobile one oil filters were best over all in a test I saw. Where they tested against k&n supertech. Overall in both flow and filtration and filtration capacity
This oil comparison I used the OEM filter for the brand of car
Mobil 1 doesn't make oil filters.
@@PeterAngles-jq7gryes they do
@@KoolieBhai wrong
@@PeterAngles-jq7gr Are you trying to say Mobil 1 puts their name on the oil filter that someone else makes?
Keep in mind the oil spec required for your engine must me followed, not a specific brand. For example my Dodge 3.6 must use 5W20 that meets spec MS-6395. Not all 5W20's meet this spec. Read the fine print on the bottle.
Of course
Go find me a widely available 5w20 synthetic that doesn't meet MS-6395
The test protocols were not covered. The proper way to do these is to flush the engine between tests for several operational hours using the same oil brand/type for each flush. Not flushing will negatively impact the first oil "tested". Doing back to back tests without flushing will bias each test by the residual effects of the previous oil used. Any issues with the emissions control system will affect tests unpredictably.
Agree…I did make sure to leave each oil drain for at least 20 min. Whatever residual I would expect to be minimal. But yes I’m sure there are some cavities in the engine where there might be some oil remaining. I did rotate which oil I started with between vehicles. Based on the results there was minimal PPM difference. Maybe extended run time would have shown more separation between the brands…but final conclusion…change your oil at 5k miles and probably generally speaking any oil will suffice.
Mobil 1 Extended Performance. The longer you leave it in the better it gets. Its just that good. MOBIL 1 Accept no substitutes.
I still like Mobil 1 as well…do you have data?
Blackstone labs is not known for accurate fuel dilution testing. They use an outdated method. All other labs use Gas Chromatography. Until you get to more than a double digit difference in wear metals, anything less is statistical insignificant and well within the accuracy of the test equipment. Pennzoil is a long drain oil, changing at 4k is not comming close to its life expectancy. FordBossMe makes the same mistakes. MACTFORDEDGE tested 3 dozen oils. He did new oil reference test and each oil was ran for 10k on the highway. Amsoil is a superior oil, but you wont see a difference if you change at 4k or even 6k. If you want compare oil, need to do new oil reference and sample oil at 10k, and compare viscosity, TBN, oxidation, additive change as well as wear.
Interesting…thank you for the feedback. Do you have an oil analysis company that you recommend?
Very interesting. It is not just about the oil but the oil filter. A few parts per million difference is not that significant. In my opinion, they are all good oils.
I agree…and I just used the OEM filter for each vehicle
Each engine is different especially in tolerances because each engine is its own. If possible I feel you should have did this test on one engine changing only the brand of oil. Any thoughts?
Very challenging…doing on one engine would put the different oils in different outside temperature ranges…ie: first oil is tested in fall time (avg temp 55 deg?) then next oils would be ran during the winter months (avg temp 25 deg?) and so on. With multiple cars you hope to see some kind of trend. Hard to eliminate variables.
@@whatyaknowjoe67 understand that 👍
I've always been a Pennzoil guy. CHEVRON Delo for my diesel. Now I'm a Valvoline guy as of 2024 I switched From Pennzoil.
Why the he switch?
@@whatyaknowjoe67 Maybe cost? Here in Australia Shell (Pennzoil equivalent) is more expensive,
Or perhaps Valvoline has a slightly larger range of types of 5W30 full synthetic like:
- Synpower
- Synpower FE
- Synpower MST C3 ($81.99 AUD full retail)
- Synpower XL-III C3
From memory they used to have even more....
Whereas in Australia with Shell:
- Helix Ultra ECT C3 ($96 AUD full retail)
- HX8
- Helix Ultra X (A3/B4 SN plus)
I personally use Shell Helix Ultra,
But I do try other brands from time to time 🤷♂
(except Amsoil since it's harder to obtain, and ludicrously expensive to the point that I could ALMOST do 2 oil changes for the same OIL COST as a single Amsoil oil change)
A loooong time ago I discarded Mobil 1's hype!!!
Stay tuned for more testing
Been using mobile one for years but after watching ur tests and others think im going with pensoil or valvoline. Probably whatever is cheaper i guess.
Remember we are talking parts per million on the report. Any of the three will do just fine. Thanks for watching…be sure to subscribe for more tests coming
I use Casrtol GTX on my 2012 challenger V6 pentastar and the 2014 chysler 300 also with the pentastar. I've had good luck with the GTX 5w20 and 5w30 full synthetic. Once I tried mobile one in the challenger and the car didn't run right. I immediately switched back to Castrol. I also tried Pennzoil Pennzoil 5w20 in the 300 and it seemed the engin ran hotter. Now my 2019 Ram 1500 hemi also uses Casrtol Casrtol 5w20 full synthetic and to me that's a great oil. Also mobile one didnt list any MS number for Chrysler , Dodge or Ram as a recommended oil. Castrol is a good for high temperatures and stop and go traffic.
I do hear a lot of good stuff with Castrol
Thank you .Not being used in the same engine, test is in my opinion is inconclusive.
Data compares two oil brands on same vehicle.
You talked about three oil brands tested in four vehicles, and showed three viscosities. Did you run the recommended viscosity of each brand in each vehicle? That means that you put 4000 miles on each brand for a total of 12000 miles on each vehicle. And one car contaminated all three brands for 12000 miles? That's a lot of driving. Is it a fleet situation? Are they driven in the same environments? Lot's of ?'s.
Recommended viscosity in each vehicle. Pennzoil vs Mobil 1 in car 1, Mobil 1 vs Valvoline in car 2, Mobil 1 vs Pennzoil in car 3, Mobil 1 vs Pennzoil in car 4. Looking to do more testing of the Valvoline in the future along with amsoil.
So your tests were not direct. You were comparing brand A viscosity 1 to brand B viscosity 1 in one vehicle, brand C viscosity 2 to brand D viscosity 2 in a second vehicle, etc. But you did not compare brand A viscosity 1 with brand C viscosity 1. You can't expect to actually compare Mobil 1 in a pickup truck to Valvoline in a car.@@whatyaknowjoe67
@@robertmatetich2898 yea they were direct. Same vehicle, same viscosity, two different brands.
I'd like to see this against Amsoil which is the standard in my world.
That is in the works…testing more of the Valvoline and amsoil will be next
Test Mobil 1 0w40 European blend, it has a very good additive package that protects your engine.
Never heard of it…I might give it a try
@@whatyaknowjoe67 look up 540RAT oil testing, he did some extensive testing of oils and the Mobile 1 0w40 European blend came in second over a bunch of oils he tested. 👍
Irv Gordan’s Volvo went over 3,000,000 miles using Castrol GTX. I know guys that went well over 300,000 miles in there vehicles with only conventional oil. Best oil is clean oil. Change your oil when you can’t see the oil level lines through the oil. Over fifty five years of doing it this way and never ever had an engine problem. But what do I know. 😁
I will agree…oil change frequency is more important than anything. Thanks for sharing
The Valvoline blew the others away in the category of "MOLY".
I plan on doing more testing with the Valvoline
I really like Valvoline and Pennzoil Platinum, recently I got a good deal on some Kirkland full synthetic 5w 20 oil, Kinda having buyers remorse, it is a Costco brand oil, but I have never used it before. It's also not Advanced or Platinum. Is there any feedback for this Kirkland full synthetic oil out there?
I haven’t seen anything
It's produced by Warren Oil and they make many or most store brand oils
It is just as good as Mobil 1
It's a good oil if you're not driving a sports car or going 10k
I wonder if the use of different vehicles is part of the results.
Data was separated for each of the 4 vehicles…so apples to apples comparison
Mobil 1 all the way!!!!
I haven’t had any engine failures using it
Is it true that Mobil makes Toyota oil?
Haven’t heard that?
Yes, ExxonMobil makes Toyota Genuine Motor Oil (TGMO). It has a different addiitive pack than regular Mobil 1 though, with typically MUCH higher molybdenum in TGMO. Virgin oil analysis has shown over 700 ppm moly in TGMO.
I ran Mobil 1 in PT cruiser. Oil changes at 10,000 miles. Engine went 197,000 miles with no oil burning. Was still running great. the rest of the car was done.
Nice…did you have the 1.6l or 2.4l?
2.4 l@@whatyaknowjoe67
Interesting…that engine does have a turbo I believe?
I’ve tried Pennzoil Platinum, Valvoline Advanced and Mobil 1 Extended Performance High Mileage in my car and so far I’ve liked how the Mobil 1 has performed the best. The Mobil 1 has been noticeably quieter than the others with Pennzoil at a close second. Valvoline made my car sound like a sewing machine for all three oil changes I tried it in. I will be sticking with Mobil 1 for sure.
I have more tests in progress
My go to is Valvoline! 💯🇺🇸
I’m liking it too…I am in process of testing more of it
To be fair, Mobil 1 was the first oil tested in each test, going by mileage on the test results sheets. Could there be some previous oil (of lower quality) leftover in the engine (most definitely) skewing the results? Testing should have included going back and re-testing Mobil 1 at the end to see if there were any changes in the results.
I didn’t start with Mobil one for each test. Tried to mix it up best I could
My 2015 Silverado with the 5.3 V8 has always gotten the best mileage with Mobil 1 Extended Performance compared to the other oils.
Interesting
I've not had a single internal engine problem in twenty years of using Mobile 1 5w-30. and surpassed 350.000 miles on one of my vehicles , but I think any of the premium synthetic oils will give similar results if changed on a regular basis.
Changing on a regular basis is key
Pennzoil lowered their price , so I'm using it...!
I’ve been seeing a lot of price juggling lately
Not a Mobil 1 fan. Tried in once & wasn’t impressed. Motor was louder & it was deep black by 3500 miles.
Hearing that a lot
Valvoline for me
More testing of Valvoline coming
Valvoline 100% of the time
I’m leaning that way…testing more currently
Think the real we orld testing is good.Mobil has an extensive laboratory. If the quality was not in it they would lose market share.
All good oils that meet min requirements
I have had great luck with amsoil 0w30. The 16 and 20 was where I live are to thin in the hot weather my buddy replaces engines constantly just due to thin oils. The manufacturer won’t help you when the engine goes bad … especially with turbos the oils are to thin that’s just EPA bs… look up engine replacements for your vehicle you drive…another friend drives a Kia she is on her third engine replacement another is on her second OILS are TOOOOO THIN. 0w30 will not void any warranty the dealer could never determine the viscosity if that is an issue for you
I agree…my opinion is that these extremely thin oils are recommended just to help meet the Government MPG mandates.
Engine oil is commonly 250 degrees Fahrenheit in engines. Do you think it matters to the oil if it is 90 Fahrenheit outside?
You have no idea why 'your buddy constantly replaces engines'
And yes, a lab can identify the weight of an oil.
Idiot