Great testing results! I've used the Supertech 10,000 mile full synthetic and changed it at 5,000 miles max. It's a great deal for what you get and very cost effective!
👍🏻😎I've been a Super Tech full synthetic user for 23 years and I have never had an oil related issue and I've saved a small fortune over the years too.
@@j.t.cooper2963 I think it's excellent oil for the money when used in the proper application and changed when it's supposed to be. I ran it for 80,000+ miles in my sister's 2013 Ford Edge. It always came out pretty clean and all of it came out. That vehicle did a lot of college tour trips and mixed driving. My sister traded it in back in maybe 2018 or so for an Equinox. I then ran ST in that for almost 100k that she had it (more college trips and moving from NJ to NC). She just traded it last year on a preowned Audi. Now she gets her oil changed since I don't live nearby anymore. LOL. One time I showed up just for a visit (she lived about an hour away) and she said, "Thank goodness you're hear, the fridge stopped working". I always carry tools with me and I kept tools at her house. I had the machine figured out in 15 minutes. I stayed over (long weekend) and when morning hit, I made a phone call with the part # for the part and it took longer to go get it than to fix the machine. LOL.
I use the supertech synthetic and change every 3K-3500K miles. Never an issue. I even use their filters too. I could probably get more miles but as cheap as it is why not!!!
I use Castrol Edge High Mileage Full Synthetic 10w30 and the analysis numbers seem better than the Pennzoil. My car is an older car. It's a 2001 with 326,000 miles. I change the oil every 5000 miles. I have used Castrol since I started driving at 16 years old and I'm 48 now. If I was going to change it would definitely be Pennzoil but I'm sticking with the Castrol. Good video
I've never used their engine oil, but I've had great results with Supertech Mercon V transmission fluid in my 4R70W. I change it every 40k miles and at 320k miles, it still shifts like it did when new.
Thank You!! I have 223000 on my Toyota Sienna been using ST Synthetic since I purchased at 105000. I change oil every 5000 miles or six months been extremely happy engine uses no oil and has no leaks.
Great video. Waiting for 5W-30 full synthetic Pennzoil Ultra vs Valvoline Extended Protection matchup. Not being critical here, just my two cents while watching your video. When comparing two oil data sheets, overlay one sheet onto the other so that the columns are closer together/next to each other. By doing this your hand isn’t moving as much back and forth, the camera stays stationary and all columns will be in the same view. Have a great day and love your videos.
Hello Ford Boss: Thank you for your research & oil analysis of the major brands. It definitely opened my eyes & I couldn't disagree with your extensive testing results. Thanks again, TMP FROM N.J.
My daily is a Camry and I also drive a 14 Expedition. During beer flu I put but around 5000 on it in one year. As long as the Supertech is the full synthetic and is Dexos approved I usually use it because it is some much more cost effective. I put the savings into a synthetic media filter (won’t say brand because I don’t want a flame war). With 5 cars to maintain at my house I have to be smart with the money. Having said that I do prefer the castrol 0-20 high mileage in the 14 Corolla.
Thanks Rich great stuff. Once my oil change package runs out I’ll have consider some of these. I use motocraft semi might stay with that, I go 3000 to 5000 or 5 months.
Good stuff, however VOA can be deceiving. The Supertech uses a broad Range of different class base-oils. Mobil 1 additives look low however, Mobil uses a higher PAO Ester base oil than most.
I've been using ultra synthetic Penzoil for a while now and haven't had any issues. At $26 for 5 quarts, and under $10 for a quality filter I can't complain.
I've run the ST FS 10k at 7.5k change intervals in a chevy 6.0 vortec (with fram ultra filter) (ever since it had 100k miles) - got 350,000 miles on it now and still running great!
A few years ago I did a little research on different oils and for the price compared to the ingredients in the different oils I went with the SuperTech 5w30 full synthetic. I guess according to these tests the SuperTech is still right up there. I don't run any more than 5000 miles but usually around 4000. I've never been a pennzoil fan but this shows me that pennzoil may have finally improved their oil.
Pennzoil oil was a Pennsylvanian crude wax based oil, it was a horrible oil that gummed up your engine, so was Valvoline and Quaker State. Shell Oil purchased both Pennzoil and Quaker State and changed both formulas to asphalt based oil which was much better. Of course today we have synthetic oil which is better yet.
@@robertstennett7566 I remember years ago when I was working as a mechanic you could tell those that used quaker state and pennzoil. You're right there was always sludge in the engine.
I've always felt Warren oils are quite good for the money. Good to put real numbers on it. I use whichever full synthetic happens to be on sale at Meijer or Walmart brand (both Warren) in my 30 year old Lincoln and it works just fine. Any off the shelf oil is so much higher quality then what was available back then! On the other hand the 5 year old car I bought new and is powered by a little 1.0L ecoboost engine - that gets the fancy name brand oil. Recently (like 2 years ago maybe???) Ford updated their Motorcraft full synthetic to the newest ILSAC GF-6 specifications and thus I simply use that plus a Motorcraft filter. (edit: prior to that it was rather difficult to find the correct oil which met the Ford specification - even Ford didn't stock any!) Keeps it simple and I change every 5k miles. Motor I'm sure will last forever. It really is that simple. Currently that car is just shy of 50k miles and looking at the valve train through oil filler everything is still silver inside. Minimal to no varnish and definitely no sludge buildup. 2nd edit: I suppose I should put my 2 cents in about the other brands in the video. I never liked Mobil 1 all that much. I've seen a lot of independent testing where it didn't do so great. The Pennzoil brand on the other hand has great quality. Shell (makes Pennzoil) is essentially #1 for industrial lubricants. They make everything from motor oils to gearbox oils to synthetic silicone grease. All fantastic top shelf stuff! Also helps my opinion because they have a couple of large factories still operating in the Ohio River Valley rust belt near where I grew up. A bit of hometown pride you might say.
The ONLY thing I might be worried about ... is the spot sample. Do different SuperTech batches test out similarly. Probably just me being overly paranoid... Thanks for the vid FBM!!
I was using valvoline full synthetic every 6 months and would need to add about half a quart . Tried pennzoil platinum and needed to add a quart in 2 months. Tried castrol edge full synthetic back to half a quart in 6 months.
From what ive been hearing the reason Mobil 1 is so high priced is those nascar endorsements. There are way better oils on the market then mobile one for better money
I use the 5w-20 ST high mileage blend in my sisters CRV which now has 140k miles, and been using it for 3 years now, no issues. Change oil/filter every 4k-5k miles which for my sister is once a year. Use Fram XG synthetic filter. I noticed in WalMart the other day the 5w-20 High mileage synthetic blend is now 21.40 for a 5 qt jug. Before it was 17.60. Also changing the CRV oil I notice fuel dilution by smell which is common in high mileage engines.
My store supertech synthetic blend is called " all mileage synthetic blend" 17.97 per 5 qt jug. Supertech high mileage full synthetic 21.48 5 qt jug This is pricing off walmart app set to my local store. Did you look at the wrong jug by accident? They all look similar.
Does the CRV have direct fuel injection?. They seem to be more susceptible to oil dilution. Not good for the engine. You may want to reduce the change interval.
Pennzoil ultra platinum is just a really good oil for the money usually. I get 5W-30 5 qts. for about $30-$35 from NAPA or Amazon for my DI 2.5T Mazda since it seems to maintain it's viscosity very well over the OCI and prevents LSPI. For some reason lately it has been more difficult to get regular pennzoil platinum and ultra platinum in a few viscosities for their normal good price, but I assume there is just a supply shortage for some reason.
They only test for those items though. So my question after seeing this is what else may be in those oils that possibly differentiates them from each other.
Kitty wants a ride in the panther! I was using supertech full synthetic and I hated when they recently brought in their different varieties. The 5000 mile, 10000 mile, and 20000 mile are redundant and just serve to push prices higher. I use the all mileage synthetic blend in my generator 10w30 never gets cold here
For my gm 4.3 v6 and just started buying Costco oil, it's also made by Warren oil. GMs factory fill is a 5w30 synthetic blend. I figure that buying Costco synthetic oil and reducing the OCI to 5k instead of the 7.5k specified by GM I should be saving money and maintaining the vehicle above and beyond what GM requires. I use super tech filters instead of the ac Delco though.
@@BLACKBOX2TURK I'm pretty sure the Super Tech filter uses metal end caps and the AC Delco is paper. The center nylon core is the same. Super tech looks better inside.
Don't think anything over 5-6k miles is actually good for any engine. They are in the business of selling more cars and engines. Longer oil change intervals helps their bottom lines.
Thanks Rich! I've always wondered what the difference was between the 5, 10, and 20,000 mile supertech oils. I want to run supertech but I keep going back to Pennzoil ultra platinum because the difference in price between the 20k ST and the pennzoil is only $3 for a 5 QT jug of 5w 30.
@@mcsqueegee81 Yes, I've been having difficulty finding it at a reasonable price. I went with regular Pennzoil Platinum instead. I don't think it will make that much difference, even in a turbocharged engine.
Does it really matter which full synthetic oil you use? As long as you change it every 5k miles or 6 months, use the correct viscosity, and you don’t drive it like a race car. I imagine there is a point of diminishing returns. Maybe the extra additives would let you go over 5k mile intervals. But if you’re changing it at 5k regardless, then it doesn’t matter. Similar to how some people filter their city water with activated carbon, some use reverse osmosis, and some just drink the city treated tap water unfiltered. And they probably all live to the same age.
Thank you so much, I just got Kirkland Signature 5W-30 Full Synthetic Motor Oil 10 qt on sale for 32 dollars, I think this and superteach 10k are the same oil, for this price, this is nothing wrong, I do 3-4k OCI on my Yaris. If I use the best oil like Pennzoil Ultra, which cost 32 dollars for 5qt,I will still do 5-7k OCI, double the price. To me, for non-turbo engines, it is better to use cheap oil but more frequent oil changes than more expensive oil.
@@DominiAeternum Because some gasoline will pass by and mix with oil. Even 5% gas mix mix with oil will makes the best oil performance drop below cheap oil level. You can watch project farm. He tested different tire of pennzoil. Some engine burns a little bit of oil and that is very normal, especially turbo engine. Change more frequently will help people know about cars to avoid low engine oil level.
@@user-pu7rl2il6o oh okay. Didn't think about that, but didn't really think that was much of a problem with any car. I've never really heard of this until recently too. Strange
@@DominiAeternum its a bigger problem with newer Direct Injection GDI Engines with Oil Dilution (gasoline contamination). As user-pu7rl2il6o mentioned looking into Project Farm's youtube channel for testing and comparing Pennzoil oils and simulating oil dilution in GDI engines.
Switching to Pennzoil ultra platinum 5w-20 because of your videos, have used mobile one for years. Would you recommend marvel mystery oil with it or just Pennzoil ultra platinum?
I bought a 2009 Jeep Liberty with 80K on it. I changed the oil using Supertech full synthetic high mileage every 4000 miles. I now have 180K on it. Runs so smooth, no leaks at all, no oil used between changes.
I wouldn't run any oil to 10k. I think you said it well, it's a 5k oil which is what most folks can and should do. Use a good quality filter, make sure it meets/exceeds the requirements of the vehicle you're using it in and change it as you should. With that a good engine design should last a long time. I'd roll with the full synthetic 5W30 which is what I use. It's now the "10,000 mile" formula. I wouldn't use that anyway. I don't even let my OCI get below 50% or so. Oil and filters are cheaper than replacing engines. Prior to ST being Dexos 1 certified, I was using QS Ultimate Durability and it was maybe $22 at WM for a 5 quart jug.
It's a decent oil especially for the price, I run the Dexos2 5W30 in my Buick over the AC Delco Stealership oil that I get for free ,but it's drum 🛢 oil & not full synthetic, rather spend the $20 bucks & use a better oil, I only use it for about 5 k to 6 k miles & filter it with a AC Delco UPF63R gold filters as the 3.6 tends to be a sooty engine
The Rotella oils are already up on the channel in the library you just have to search my name and then put Rotella next to it or diesel oil next to it it's in the library
Thanks for taking the time to do this! Nice to have a simple explanation of all these numbers. Quick question. My wifes 2021 powerstroke has had all its scheduled oil changes at the dealership. What is the standard oil you guys use in the powerstrokes? Any personal preference on oil for those? In our 6.7 Cummins I always ran shell Rotella synthetic. Just trying to take good care of this truck.
I got a 2012 3.5L ecoboost. The timing chain growled at me 3 times upon startup, each time, i was 6,000+ miles into my OCI of my pennzoil platinum. I went to supertech HM w/3,000 mi OCI, and the truck hasnt growled at me since. It's been over a year.
Hey there's nothing wrong with you sticking with what works for you, just realize it's not very good oil it's mediocre lower end of the middle of the pack that's all these videos are about it's to shed some light on what is out there and what you're actually paying for but it's not to change your mind on what you're using because if it works I'm an advocate for continuing to use what works but I'm also an advocate for truthful information and not bad information like the mobile one community and the mobile marketing team like to push and their oil is like not even really that great it's just okay at best
What about Valvoline? They make strong claims their full synthetic is 24x better than leading competitors and their additives claim to restore seals etc… any thoughts on them?
Have you already done a test with MMO added? I’m curious what additives it adds to the oil, and if it’s worth adding a small amount to run continuously
I’ve used super tech full synthetic for 10 years in all my vehicles and the only complaint is now in 2024 it’s about the same price as Quaker state full synthetic .It cost me $18.98 for 5 quart jug of 0w20 full synthetic and there’s Quaker atate and valvoline all full synthetics for just $3 more.But I keep buying super tech and it says 10,000 miles but I change around 6000 miles.i use it in 3 vehicles .
I just got an oil change at my local jeep, Chrysler, dealership, and they forgot to put my oil cap on my Fiat 500x 2.4L, and drove it up and down the road and oil spilled onto engine and hood, and they are going to clean it up! Should I replace the oil after that, and I had them put the new Marvel mystery oil synthetic in it as well!
One thing I've always wondered.... Back in the day I always heard people say not to use Penzoil because there were waxes and sands in it. Any truth to that? Also Boss, could you recommend a synthetic that would be good to -55F? (lately I've been using Q Full Synthetic 5w30). Thanks 🙂
My second hand understanding is that the Pennzoil of 30 some years ago is very different from the modern Pennzoil. These days ultra platinum is just about one of the best oils money can buy. But used to be they had a bad reputation for issues like what you mention.
I use PP high mileage full synthetic. That one would be interesting to test, probably similar to ULTRA. They claim it helps clean rings and passages better. The 5w30 makes my close to 200K mile 6.2L so smooth I thought it stalled :lol: I don't know what was in it when I got it (was clean oil) but it is definitely an improvement. The base oil is also very high quality, made from natural gas. Also cleaned up the engine considerably since I got it! Says to use 5W20 but the Ford Place told me they only put 5W30 in 6.2Ls so that is what I use.
bottom line I would never wait that long to change my oil. I drive at most 7000 miles per year. I try to change every 3000 miles at most. But some of my vehicles get such low mileage that i have to change them with fewer miles because I always hear it's not good to let them sit more than a year even if not driven at all.
To do that you would have to use two different oils in the same engine, one at a time or the results would be skewed due to how two different engines would contaminate the oil.
@@davidlong1786 i think if you ran 2 oil changes the second oil change would be good enough to test. Unless you have a zillion dollars testing facility, it wouldn't be scientifically accurate no matter how you did it. I don't think that much accuracy is needed for this type of testing
Actually it's not it is the pre-oil use because each engine is built differently and they are taking care of differently so virgin analysis is actually more important to be honest with you used analysis may be more important to figure out what's going on with your particular engine and how you're taking care of it but me doing a used analysis would not actually do anything for the rest of you in the grand scheme of things it would just show you how my particular vehicle is running
This is why I’ve always used Pennzoil Ultra Platinum in my 2019 F150 5.0L, with 5K mile oil change intervals. I’ve never had any oil consumption issues with it either, after 53K miles so far. Rich, even though the 2019 3rd Gen 5.0L suggests using 5w20, what do you think about using 5w30 in it instead for more viscosity protection?
I have been on BITOG forums for over a decade and have never seen an M1 analysis that actually looked worthwhile. Mobil's marketing certainly is a market leader for creating such a loyal following.
I'd like to see Mobil 1's euro oils tested. Especially their 0W-30 ESP and their 0W-40 FS formula. To see if their 0W-30 ESP add pack could work in an ILSAC-6 API SN for a Ford EcoSport 2.0 N/A. My local Walmart only has Mobil 1 for a couple euro oils. Those two, mostly. Also, which for a 2019 Volkswagen Golf R? Says 0W-30 on the cap, but manual says 5W-30 or 5W-40. It gets changed once and no more than 1,500 miles a year. 0W-30 ESP, or their 0W-40? It gets used all year around (short trips for 70yr old woman) in MI. So, in cold and heat.
Great testing results! I've used the Supertech 10,000 mile full synthetic and changed it at 5,000 miles max. It's a great deal for what you get and very cost effective!
I’ve used “ super tech” oil now for years and my vehicles like it just fine
@@user-pu7rl2il6o Then there's the price of the annual membership you forgot to factor in which negates the savings you mentioned.
I've used super tech for the last 16 years and 270k in my work truck. Twice a year or every 5000 miles. Basic Wix/napa gold/toyota filter.
I've used the high mileage for the last 200k. Its 24 years old now.
@@alabama2uz I wished I was 24 years old!
@@kenhurley4441 24 years ago I was 25. 😁
@@alabama2uz 😜
I use super tech filters. They are so cheap and looks decent
👍🏻😎I've been a Super Tech full synthetic user for 23 years and I have never had an oil related issue and I've saved a small fortune over the years too.
Ditto. I use it in everything from my small engines to my cars.
@@googleusergp It really can't be beat as far as I'm concerned.
@@j.t.cooper2963 I think it's excellent oil for the money when used in the proper application and changed when it's supposed to be. I ran it for 80,000+ miles in my sister's 2013 Ford Edge. It always came out pretty clean and all of it came out. That vehicle did a lot of college tour trips and mixed driving. My sister traded it in back in maybe 2018 or so for an Equinox. I then ran ST in that for almost 100k that she had it (more college trips and moving from NJ to NC). She just traded it last year on a preowned Audi. Now she gets her oil changed since I don't live nearby anymore. LOL.
One time I showed up just for a visit (she lived about an hour away) and she said, "Thank goodness you're hear, the fridge stopped working". I always carry tools with me and I kept tools at her house. I had the machine figured out in 15 minutes. I stayed over (long weekend) and when morning hit, I made a phone call with the part # for the part and it took longer to go get it than to fix the machine. LOL.
Thanks for taking the time and effort in conducting these experiments and then recording them and putting them online for all to see.
I use the supertech synthetic and change every 3K-3500K miles. Never an issue. I even use their filters too. I could probably get more miles but as cheap as it is why not!!!
I use Castrol Edge High Mileage Full Synthetic 10w30 and the analysis numbers seem better than the Pennzoil. My car is an older car. It's a 2001 with 326,000 miles. I change the oil every 5000 miles. I have used Castrol since I started driving at 16 years old and I'm 48 now. If I was going to change it would definitely be Pennzoil but I'm sticking with the Castrol. Good video
I've never used their engine oil, but I've had great results with Supertech Mercon V transmission fluid in my 4R70W. I change it every 40k miles and at 320k miles, it still shifts like it did when new.
Thank You!! I have 223000 on my Toyota Sienna been using ST Synthetic since I purchased at 105000. I change oil every 5000 miles or six months been extremely happy engine uses no oil and has no leaks.
Great video. Waiting for 5W-30 full synthetic Pennzoil Ultra vs Valvoline Extended Protection matchup. Not being critical here, just my two cents while watching your video. When comparing two oil data sheets, overlay one sheet onto the other so that the columns are closer together/next to each other. By doing this your hand isn’t moving as much back and forth, the camera stays stationary and all columns will be in the same view. Have a great day and love your videos.
Hello Ford Boss: Thank you for your research & oil analysis of the major brands. It definitely opened my eyes & I couldn't disagree with your extensive testing results. Thanks again, TMP FROM N.J.
Thank u Rich for ur awesome oil reviews.
I’ve used super tech oil and filters many years and never had a problem
My daily is a Camry and I also drive a 14 Expedition. During beer flu I put but around 5000 on it in one year. As long as the Supertech is the full synthetic and is Dexos approved I usually use it because it is some much more cost effective. I put the savings into a synthetic media filter (won’t say brand because I don’t want a flame war). With 5 cars to maintain at my house I have to be smart with the money. Having said that I do prefer the castrol 0-20 high mileage in the 14 Corolla.
Thanks Rich great stuff. Once my oil change package runs out I’ll have consider some of these. I use motocraft semi might stay with that, I go 3000 to 5000 or 5 months.
Nice of the kitty to let you make these videos! Always in charge, makes me miss my girl. Thanks for the analysis sir.
Fantastic analysis! Base stock matters. Higher add packs are sometimes making up for lower quality base stocks.
Thanks for the update on supertech oil.
Great education, thanks Rich
It used to be a great deal until videos like this.... now it's the same price as Mobil 1
Good stuff, however VOA can be deceiving. The Supertech uses a broad Range of different class base-oils. Mobil 1 additives look low however, Mobil uses a higher PAO Ester base oil than most.
Thanks again for all you do
I've been using ultra synthetic Penzoil for a while now and haven't had any issues. At $26 for 5 quarts, and under $10 for a quality filter I can't complain.
Thank you for all your tests. Nice cat also.
I've run the ST FS 10k at 7.5k change intervals in a chevy 6.0 vortec (with fram ultra filter) (ever since it had 100k miles) - got 350,000 miles on it now and still running great!
A few years ago I did a little research on different oils and for the price compared to the ingredients in the different oils I went with the SuperTech 5w30 full synthetic. I guess according to these tests the SuperTech is still right up there. I don't run any more than 5000 miles but usually around 4000. I've never been a pennzoil fan but this shows me that pennzoil may have finally improved their oil.
Pennzoil oil was a Pennsylvanian crude wax based oil, it was a horrible oil that gummed up your engine, so was Valvoline and Quaker State.
Shell Oil purchased both Pennzoil and Quaker State and changed both formulas to asphalt based oil which was much better.
Of course today we have synthetic oil which is better yet.
@@robertstennett7566 I remember years ago when I was working as a mechanic you could tell those that used quaker state and pennzoil. You're right there was always sludge in the engine.
I've always felt Warren oils are quite good for the money. Good to put real numbers on it. I use whichever full synthetic happens to be on sale at Meijer or Walmart brand (both Warren) in my 30 year old Lincoln and it works just fine. Any off the shelf oil is so much higher quality then what was available back then! On the other hand the 5 year old car I bought new and is powered by a little 1.0L ecoboost engine - that gets the fancy name brand oil. Recently (like 2 years ago maybe???) Ford updated their Motorcraft full synthetic to the newest ILSAC GF-6 specifications and thus I simply use that plus a Motorcraft filter. (edit: prior to that it was rather difficult to find the correct oil which met the Ford specification - even Ford didn't stock any!) Keeps it simple and I change every 5k miles. Motor I'm sure will last forever. It really is that simple. Currently that car is just shy of 50k miles and looking at the valve train through oil filler everything is still silver inside. Minimal to no varnish and definitely no sludge buildup.
2nd edit: I suppose I should put my 2 cents in about the other brands in the video. I never liked Mobil 1 all that much. I've seen a lot of independent testing where it didn't do so great. The Pennzoil brand on the other hand has great quality. Shell (makes Pennzoil) is essentially #1 for industrial lubricants. They make everything from motor oils to gearbox oils to synthetic silicone grease. All fantastic top shelf stuff! Also helps my opinion because they have a couple of large factories still operating in the Ohio River Valley rust belt near where I grew up. A bit of hometown pride you might say.
Thanks Rich.
Well Rich the numbers tell the story , now we know . Thanks for all your hard work !……
Thanks for that information. I guess I going to switch from Mobile 1 to Pennzoil Ulta Platinum.
I've been using supertech full syn for years every 3000 miles. No issues. Plus it's cheap and easy to do.
The ONLY thing I might be worried about ... is the spot sample. Do different SuperTech batches test out similarly. Probably just me being overly paranoid... Thanks for the vid FBM!!
There are oil company that batch blend their oils.
Awww, you’re kitty seems to be doing well
I was using valvoline full synthetic every 6 months and would need to add about half a quart . Tried pennzoil platinum and needed to add a quart in 2 months. Tried castrol edge full synthetic back to half a quart in 6 months.
Good information! Thanks.
Is it true mobil 1 lost the best USA base stock oil with the 0biden green mandate shutdown??? Warren base stock? Still USA Base stock???
Thank you!
This just Reaffirms for me how crappy Mobil 1 really is. Thanks for the test.
From what ive been hearing the reason Mobil 1 is so high priced is those nascar endorsements. There are way better oils on the market then mobile one for better money
@@dondownriver3464 Yup! Mobil 1 always test on the lower end of performance in all the test I have ever seen.
Your analysis and commentary are interesting and insightful. Well done!
You belong to the pretty kitty :)
Wow super tech beat Mobil 1 didn't see that coming
WOW.. that makes me want to get that mobile 1 out of our cars asap and get the ultra platinum
I use the 5w-20 ST high mileage blend in my sisters CRV which now has 140k miles, and been using it for 3 years now, no issues. Change oil/filter every 4k-5k miles which for my sister is once a year. Use Fram XG synthetic filter. I noticed in WalMart the other day the 5w-20 High mileage synthetic blend is now 21.40 for a 5 qt jug. Before it was 17.60. Also changing the CRV oil I notice fuel dilution by smell which is common in high mileage engines.
My store supertech synthetic blend is called " all mileage synthetic blend" 17.97 per 5 qt jug.
Supertech high mileage full synthetic 21.48 5 qt jug
This is pricing off walmart app set to my local store.
Did you look at the wrong jug by accident? They all look similar.
Does the CRV have direct fuel injection?. They seem to be more susceptible to oil dilution. Not good for the engine. You may want to reduce the change interval.
Short trips
I always wondered about that
Really like this content
Pennzoil ultra platinum is just a really good oil for the money usually. I get 5W-30 5 qts. for about $30-$35 from NAPA or Amazon for my DI 2.5T Mazda since it seems to maintain it's viscosity very well over the OCI and prevents LSPI. For some reason lately it has been more difficult to get regular pennzoil platinum and ultra platinum in a few viscosities for their normal good price, but I assume there is just a supply shortage for some reason.
It's cheaper at Walmart. Never buy oil at a car parts store it's way overpriced
I HAVE USED SUPERTECH FOR 30 YEARS IT ROCKS
I came to the same basic conclusion when I tested Super Tech oil & filter on my Honda CRV with over 100,000 miles that pulled with RV.
They only test for those items though. So my question after seeing this is what else may be in those oils that possibly differentiates them from each other.
Back in the 60s, the oil changes were 5000 miles and the oil was garbage back then. I have no problem going 10k on any oil. 🤠
I think a higher TBN with the same additive package is due to base oil. Ester and PAO base oil has less acidity.
Kitty wants a ride in the panther!
I was using supertech full synthetic and I hated when they recently brought in their different varieties. The 5000 mile, 10000 mile, and 20000 mile are redundant and just serve to push prices higher.
I use the all mileage synthetic blend in my generator 10w30 never gets cold here
For my gm 4.3 v6 and just started buying Costco oil, it's also made by Warren oil. GMs factory fill is a 5w30 synthetic blend. I figure that buying Costco synthetic oil and reducing the OCI to 5k instead of the 7.5k specified by GM I should be saving money and maintaining the vehicle above and beyond what GM requires. I use super tech filters instead of the ac Delco though.
Ac Delco makes super tech oil filter.
@@BLACKBOX2TURK it looked the same when I compared at the store
@@BLACKBOX2TURK I'm pretty sure the Super Tech filter uses metal end caps and the AC Delco is paper. The center nylon core is the same. Super tech looks better inside.
Don't think anything over 5-6k miles is actually good for any engine. They are in the business of selling more cars and engines. Longer oil change intervals helps their bottom lines.
same thing can be said for gasoline. It's the additive package they put into it after it is delivered to the gas station
Well down here only Shell claims to have no ethanol in their higher octanes too
I've used Supertech for decades now. Keep it clean & full. You'll be fine.
Interesting! 🙂🐶🐕
I use the supertech full synthetic high mileage and change oil at 3000 miles !
Thanks Rich! I've always wondered what the difference was between the 5, 10, and 20,000 mile supertech oils. I want to run supertech but I keep going back to Pennzoil ultra platinum because the difference in price between the 20k ST and the pennzoil is only $3 for a 5 QT jug of 5w 30.
the pennzoil ultra platinum has gone up a bit in price
@@mcsqueegee81it’s gone up quite a bit. And it’s hard to find.
@@mcsqueegee81 Yes, I've been having difficulty finding it at a reasonable price. I went with regular Pennzoil Platinum instead. I don't think it will make that much difference, even in a turbocharged engine.
Good review. I use Mobil 1 in my F-150, 2.7 ecoboost and Motorcraft filter. No problems.
I’ve used supertech for 20 years. Full synthetic and I change it every 5500 to 6000 miles. It has worked well for me.
Does it really matter which full synthetic oil you use? As long as you change it every 5k miles or 6 months, use the correct viscosity, and you don’t drive it like a race car.
I imagine there is a point of diminishing returns. Maybe the extra additives would let you go over 5k mile intervals. But if you’re changing it at 5k regardless, then it doesn’t matter.
Similar to how some people filter their city water with activated carbon, some use reverse osmosis, and some just drink the city treated tap water unfiltered. And they probably all live to the same age.
Thank you so much, I just got Kirkland Signature 5W-30 Full Synthetic Motor Oil 10 qt on sale for 32 dollars, I think this and superteach 10k are the same oil, for this price, this is nothing wrong, I do 3-4k OCI on my Yaris. If I use the best oil like Pennzoil Ultra, which cost 32 dollars for 5qt,I will still do 5-7k OCI, double the price. To me, for non-turbo engines, it is better to use cheap oil but more frequent oil changes than more expensive oil.
Why do you say "better" to use cheap oils but change more frequently? Good oils are good oils no matter what engine they go in.
@@DominiAeternum Because some gasoline will pass by and mix with oil. Even 5% gas mix mix with oil will makes the best oil performance drop below cheap oil level. You can watch project farm. He tested different tire of pennzoil. Some engine burns a little bit of oil and that is very normal, especially turbo engine. Change more frequently will help people know about cars to avoid low engine oil level.
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@@user-pu7rl2il6o oh okay. Didn't think about that, but didn't really think that was much of a problem with any car. I've never really heard of this until recently too. Strange
@@DominiAeternum its a bigger problem with newer Direct Injection GDI Engines with Oil Dilution (gasoline contamination). As user-pu7rl2il6o mentioned looking into Project Farm's youtube channel for testing and comparing Pennzoil oils and simulating oil dilution in GDI engines.
Supertech Warren oil is good?
Switching to Pennzoil ultra platinum 5w-20 because of your videos, have used mobile one for years. Would you recommend marvel mystery oil with it or just Pennzoil ultra platinum?
My research shows that Pennzoil Ultra Platinum is the same thing as Shell Helix in Europe. Good stuff but, you have to search to find it.
I bought a 2009 Jeep Liberty with 80K on it. I changed the oil using Supertech full synthetic high mileage every 4000 miles. I now have 180K on it. Runs so smooth, no leaks at all, no oil used between changes.
Are/should the test numbers be the same in different weights of the same oil brand/product? 5w-30 should be the same as 0w-20? Or no?
What a cute cat 🐈
I wouldn't run any oil to 10k. I think you said it well, it's a 5k oil which is what most folks can and should do. Use a good quality filter, make sure it meets/exceeds the requirements of the vehicle you're using it in and change it as you should. With that a good engine design should last a long time.
I'd roll with the full synthetic 5W30 which is what I use. It's now the "10,000 mile" formula. I wouldn't use that anyway. I don't even let my OCI get below 50% or so. Oil and filters are cheaper than replacing engines. Prior to ST being Dexos 1 certified, I was using QS Ultimate Durability and it was maybe $22 at WM for a 5 quart jug.
Ok. So what oil holds up the best in a3.5 ecoboost
It's a decent oil especially for the price, I run the Dexos2 5W30 in my Buick over the AC Delco Stealership oil that I get for free ,but it's drum 🛢 oil & not full synthetic, rather spend the $20 bucks & use a better oil, I only use it for about 5 k to 6 k miles & filter it with a AC Delco UPF63R gold filters as the 3.6 tends to be a sooty engine
I think I’ll switch to Supertech Oil if it is cheaper and just as good of oil
Any chance you could analyze Mitsubishi's synthetic oil used by American Mitsubishi dealerships?
This guy is awesome
would love to see the Rotella oils compared!
The Rotella oils are already up on the channel in the library you just have to search my name and then put Rotella next to it or diesel oil next to it it's in the library
Hi are comparisons preuse or analysis after use .
Thanks for taking the time to do this! Nice to have a simple explanation of all these numbers.
Quick question. My wifes 2021 powerstroke has had all its scheduled oil changes at the dealership. What is the standard oil you guys use in the powerstrokes? Any personal preference on oil for those? In our 6.7 Cummins I always ran shell Rotella synthetic. Just trying to take good care of this truck.
Most of the super duty guys really love Shell Rotella T6 or hot shot secret Diamond formula
How does Kendal oil compare? Thats what I’d like to see.
I only use Supertec in my Challenger and Titan. Change it every 5k miles. K&N oil filter.
How about a test on Napa full synthetic and Motorcraft full synthetic?
I got a 2012 3.5L ecoboost. The timing chain growled at me 3 times upon startup, each time, i was 6,000+ miles into my OCI of my pennzoil platinum.
I went to supertech HM w/3,000 mi OCI, and the truck hasnt growled at me since. It's been over a year.
Update.... my timing chains haven't made a sound since i switched to ST HM & 3,000 mile oci
Sticking with the Mobil 1 full synthetic
Hey there's nothing wrong with you sticking with what works for you, just realize it's not very good oil it's mediocre lower end of the middle of the pack that's all these videos are about it's to shed some light on what is out there and what you're actually paying for but it's not to change your mind on what you're using because if it works I'm an advocate for continuing to use what works but I'm also an advocate for truthful information and not bad information like the mobile one community and the mobile marketing team like to push and their oil is like not even really that great it's just okay at best
What about Valvoline? They make strong claims their full synthetic is 24x better than leading competitors and their additives claim to restore seals etc… any thoughts on them?
Have you already done a test with MMO added? I’m curious what additives it adds to the oil, and if it’s worth adding a small amount to run continuously
I got the results back on that but I need the results back on the virgin analysis which they have not done yet
Hi Rich. Any thoughts on the Supertech oil filters? Thank you for your work.
They're good oil filters just don't abuse them don't try to run them 10,000 miles
I been using Supertech for about 7 years in all my vehicles and I beat the piss out of my engines.
I’ve used super tech full synthetic for 10 years in all my vehicles and the only complaint is now in 2024 it’s about the same price as Quaker state full synthetic .It cost me $18.98 for 5 quart jug of 0w20 full synthetic and there’s Quaker atate and valvoline all full synthetics for just $3 more.But I keep buying super tech and it says 10,000 miles but I change around 6000 miles.i use it in 3 vehicles .
I just got an oil change at my local jeep, Chrysler, dealership, and they forgot to put my oil cap on my Fiat 500x 2.4L, and drove it up and down the road and oil spilled onto engine and hood, and they are going to clean it up! Should I replace the oil after that, and I had them put the new Marvel mystery oil synthetic in it as well!
One thing I've always wondered.... Back in the day I always heard people say not to use Penzoil because there were waxes and sands in it. Any truth to that? Also Boss, could you recommend a synthetic that would be good to -55F? (lately I've been using Q Full Synthetic 5w30). Thanks 🙂
My second hand understanding is that the Pennzoil of 30 some years ago is very different from the modern Pennzoil. These days ultra platinum is just about one of the best oils money can buy. But used to be they had a bad reputation for issues like what you mention.
Your cat is the star ⭐️
So would you say supertech is better every 5,000 than ultra platinum every 10,000. I would think so.
I want to see VP racing oil compared to Castrol full synthetic
Good video
I use PP high mileage full synthetic. That one would be interesting to test, probably similar to ULTRA. They claim it helps clean rings and passages better. The 5w30 makes my close to 200K mile 6.2L so smooth I thought it stalled :lol: I don't know what was in it when I got it (was clean oil) but it is definitely an improvement. The base oil is also very high quality, made from natural gas. Also cleaned up the engine considerably since I got it! Says to use 5W20 but the Ford Place told me they only put 5W30 in 6.2Ls so that is what I use.
What effects do you get from PP oil?
bottom line I would never wait that long to change my oil. I drive at most 7000 miles per year. I try to change every 3000 miles at most. But some of my vehicles get such low mileage that i have to change them with fewer miles because I always hear it's not good to let them sit more than a year even if not driven at all.
Yes because moisture build up and will not burn off keep up what you are doing
@@cr2158 How many highway miles would it take to "dry out" the crankcase and oil of a car that has been sitting?
Your cat is beautiful and a sweet girl!
Can you do a comparison of after 5k miles. It's nice to see all the pre-use results, but post use is really what needs to be evaluated
To do that you would have to use two different oils in the same engine, one at a time or the results would be skewed due to how two different engines would contaminate the oil.
@@davidlong1786 i think if you ran 2 oil changes the second oil change would be good enough to test. Unless you have a zillion dollars testing facility, it wouldn't be scientifically accurate no matter how you did it. I don't think that much accuracy is needed for this type of testing
Actually it's not it is the pre-oil use because each engine is built differently and they are taking care of differently so virgin analysis is actually more important to be honest with you
used analysis may be more important to figure out what's going on with your particular engine and how you're taking care of it but me doing a used analysis would not actually do anything for the rest of you in the grand scheme of things it would just show you how my particular vehicle is running
This is why I’ve always used Pennzoil Ultra Platinum in my 2019 F150 5.0L, with 5K mile oil change intervals. I’ve never had any oil consumption issues with it either, after 53K miles so far.
Rich, even though the 2019 3rd Gen 5.0L suggests using 5w20, what do you think about using 5w30 in it instead for more viscosity protection?
Love Ultra Platinum. I use it in our ‘19 CX-5 and ‘17 Camry SE. Cold-flow properties are outstanding, and there is zero valvetrain noise.
Stay with the 5w20. You want the oil to flow through your motor at the correct rate. A 530 will flow slower and may cause damage overtime.
Project farm yt channel did some good testing on different oil brands if I remember correctly supertech was one of the top proformers
The ad pack isn't phenomenal
I have been on BITOG forums for over a decade and have never seen an M1 analysis that actually looked worthwhile. Mobil's marketing certainly is a market leader for creating such a loyal following.
Agreed
Pets are like kids basically she is saying feed me Daddy I'm hungry 🤣😅
No that's a pet me meow because she's already been fed she just wanted me to touch her
I'd like to see Mobil 1's euro oils tested. Especially their 0W-30 ESP and their 0W-40 FS formula. To see if their 0W-30 ESP add pack could work in an ILSAC-6 API SN for a Ford EcoSport 2.0 N/A.
My local Walmart only has Mobil 1 for a couple euro oils. Those two, mostly. Also, which for a 2019 Volkswagen Golf R? Says 0W-30 on the cap, but manual says 5W-30 or 5W-40. It gets changed once and no more than 1,500 miles a year. 0W-30 ESP, or their 0W-40? It gets used all year around (short trips for 70yr old woman) in MI. So, in cold and heat.