I became an Ultra Platinum convert after that Project Farm competition. Nearly as good as Amsoil but not nearly as expensive, especially at major retailers' sale prices. One year edit: Wow, I didn't anticipate this starting such a broad discussion. Again, Shell has the global economies of scale to offer superior value.
Same here! Basically the same oil for darn near half the price. Combine that with the Purolator Boss filter and you get essentially equal performance for much less money.
That's all I've been using since I saw the Project Farm comparison. The price of the Ultra has gone up considerably since the Project Farm test. I'll bet Project Farm boosted their sales.
@@moshet842 100% agree. I switched to Microgard two years ago and am very impressed with their quality and value. Whip City Wrencher did some cut-aways, which showed excellent construction.
I had this nissan. I worked 50 km away. I worked nights, I am on the highway in a couple of minutes, work is just off the highway. Road is always quiet, always drive exact same speed with cruise control every day. I always had 6.7 L/100km for my milage. That was with the Top of the line Synthetic Mobile 1. One time I switched to Pennzoil Ultra Platinum Synthetic. Instantly I went down to 6.2 - 6.1 L/100km. remained at that range consistently after switching. It saved me enough fuel every week to get approximately 1 more trip to work (one way). That's amazing difference! I always use that oil now, even with my new car.
My understanding is when the calcium detergent is lower, it increase the effectiveness of molybdenum and zddp which improve wear protection and lower friction at the same time since less competition for metal surface from calcium deterrent. I have read from Eneos X Prime series engine oil bulletin which could be 2.5 times more effective for molybdenum to reduce friction coefficient at the same time lower zddp level compare to old additive package formula also reduce friction from other Lake Speed TH-cam clip.
Shell is a prestigious brand, Shell has been a Ferrari partner in Motorsport, needless to mention Paris Dakar, DTM, 24 hrs du mans.... And I don't believe that shell will sell BS to its customer. Amsoil has been along since the 70s just like the Malaysian PETRONAS while shell was founded in the late 1800s. Shell is the only brand that makes group 4 oils from GTL. No other brand does that
@@Stapleton42 For me, shell Helix ultra is the ultimate flagship. If this oil is hard to find in the US, they sure can be found at any shell petrol station Motul also has the high performance 300v ESTER core engine oil and this oil is a 100 percent synthetic sold in Europe For synthetics, motul and shell are my go to oils. The 300v and Helix ultra, both surpass any European stringent requirements and they deserve to be called fully synthetic
@@thinkforyourself5672 Thanks for the reply. I am switching to the Ultra in February. Been using Mobil 1 Extended Protection but I seen tests where the Ultra performs better. You got a nice car man. I am thinking about either that one or a Lexus LC500 once I switch in the future. For now I got a GS350.
@Jeffsdata_0 I sure could. In my chevy that's got 259k miles, it's is much quieter on startup and seems to do slightly better on fuel economy. Also, I can go 5k between changes and the engine is just as quiet at 5 k as when I put the oil in. Cheaper oils almost made me alarmed a 5k the valve train was so noisy.
@@Jeffsdata_0 for me yes. I was under the impression that My Subaru dealer uses OEM oil from Subaru but they used this stuff call mobile special which you can get for like a dollar a quart and it's sold to big companies in big tanks. Let me tell u it sucked and gave my car a lifter tick after doing one cycle. I'm thinking of trying liqimolly oil and their lifter tick additive or maybe I'll just try penzoil again.
Oh man this is the more-science-based, nerding-out-on-oil content I was looking for. Glad I found this channel! The discussion the "the best oil" is a never ending discussion, but ALMOST NEVER is conversation technical in nature like this about the actual composition of these oil products and what makes them actually work & be different.
My wife’s 2004 Lexus RX330 (255K miles) used to burn a quart of oil between oil changes when using Mobil 1. When I switched over to Pennzoil Ultra Synthetic High Milage, she hasn’t burned a single drop and gets a couple more miles to the gallon than before. For me this is the best bang for your buck oil out there. Hands down.
Similar to me in my 2002 ES300. Went from Ultra platinum to high mileage synthetic and it doesn’t burn any oil between 5k oil changes. Used to burn 1 quart over same mileage interval
I used to have a 2000 Mustang GT that always seemed to burn oil in between oil changes no matter which brand I used. After I tried Ultra Platinum that stopped. I still use it in all of my cars today because of so.
I just picked up Pennzoil Ultra Platinum 0W-20 (5-quart, case of 3) on Amazon for the great price of $71.16 (or only $23.72 per jug)! I'm very happy with the purchase; my mailman less so. My Honda K24 also has no complaints.
@@themotoroilgeekhello Mr TMOG.. I own a 2008 Prius 177k miles with the low tension piston oil rings... 51.8 mpg winter /54.3 mpg summer Oil consumption is part of ownership... To minimize the oil consumption Rotella T6 5/40 (Toyota recommends 5/30) Synthetic has my oil consumption to 1 ,- 1.25 quart every 5k miles I just did my oil change at 5k miles.. I will perform my next oil change with 5/30 PUP If interested I will report back my findings... I have used all synthetics by mobile 1 .. regular Pennzoil platinum... Castrol... Royal purple... Least oil consumption was with the Rotella.. worse oil consumption was with the regular Pennzoil platinum...
I have been using Pennzoil Platinum Euro synthetic 5w-40 in my 2016 VW Golf S MK7 with a Stage one tune for eight years since new. My Golf uses no oil from oil change to oil change and I have had zero engine issues even with the hard driving I do daily. The Blackstone oil analysis is always stellar. 👍
I wish they made Pennzoil Ultra Plat euro 5w40, I use Plat euro on my BMWs as well, change it every 5000km, when it drops below -25C here in Canada I switch to Amsoil or Redline to protect rod bearings as those are proven to be better for extreme cold starts.
@@e.e9331they used too! I’m not sure what happened to it but it was my go to oil for my Passat but one day it wasn’t on the shelves and I haven’t seen it since
@@e.e9331I use ultra platinum 0w40 since I live in Colorado in my b58. Stage 2 91 oct. ots tune. It’s not my daily so I change it every 3k cause it sits more than it drives. Been phenomenal for me so far.
What for a 2019 Golf R Wolfsburg edition? I have Mobil 1's 0W-30 ESP in it, and it's burning the oil level down fast. 0W-30 ESP is all what Walmart has that fits the Golf R's requirements. This car only gets around 1,000 miles a year, no joke. I need an oil I don't have to order and isn't an arm and a leg. Thinking about Valvoline extended protection 5W-30 in autumn, and the 10W-30 in the spring. No Euro oil. At least the Valvoline would have a lot more moly than most all the euro oils.
What the hell?? I went and bought the Platinum oil and had no idea that I was supposed to buy the "Ultra Platinum." Jeeze, could they have come up with a less confusing naming scheme? Now I have to go out into the garage to figure out what the hell I bought. Haha.
@@themotoroilgeekare Schaeffer's oils really good? Are they well formulated? Is Mobil 1 ep really good? Please respond because I am truly interested in oils. Thanks and keep up the good work. Jason
Pennzoil was above all the other majors when it came to the total package for TW3 on boat oils. Outstanding labs results. This was conducted by Bass & Walleye Boats many years ago showing all the perimeters. Been terrific for our program for 30 years.
I use TCW3 marine oil in my vehicles Jeep Grand Cherokee and Honda Ridgeline and Dodge Ram 1500 tradesman truck gasoline at 1oz per five gallons of gasoline. Works great been doing it for years. TCW3 burns ash less won’t harm catalytic converters or sensors. More doesn’t mean better here. You can read about using TCW3 in vehicles on Google. You won’t know your vehicle is running at idle. One gallon treats 640 gallons oil gasoline. Buy a quart try it in a few tanks. You won’t be disappointed.
I use Marine outboard TCW3 oil in the Volvo Jeep and my Ram 1500 gasoline at 1 oz per five gallon of gasoline. Works just like in the two cycle engines. Been doing this for years and the vehicle’s pass emissions inspection with flying colors. Try it in your vehicles you won’t know your vehicle is running at idle. Smooth
Used ultra platinum in gas vehicles after I dug up a several hundred page comparison between tons of oil and oils with additives and their relative performance. It's great stuff.
I used to be a long time Mobil 1 user for 20+ years. I tried Pennzoil Platinum and Ultra Platinum after doing a lot of research. Since using the Pennzoil Platinum/Ultra Platinum in both of my vehicles they both run smoother and quieter. I’m definitely a Pennzoil Platinum/Ultra platinum convert now.
I've been using it for over five years. The garage suggested upgrading to it, and it was immediately obvious. My engine ran smoother and revved quicker. Also less evaporation to cause deposits in DI engines.
I use this for my IS500 and it made a world of a difference:) i also used it in my 21 tundra! Doesnt burn oil and even after running it hard for 5k miles it still looks almost the same and doesnt smell burnt.
I have a 2015 Ecoboost 3.5 F-150. I’ve used mostly PUP and I did the valve cover gaskets from a prior timing chain cover leak under warranty that wasn’t done right. No fault of the oil. I was amazed at how clean the valve train was on the engine. Looked like brand new. Definitely sold me on the product. But I do change the oil before 4K miles so no doubt that helps.
I’ve had a 2009 5.4 since new. Well maintained with a variety of engine oils over the years starting with dealer Motorcraft oil for the first 8 years. Had the valve covers off last fall for the first time and it also still appeared as clean and shiny as new inside. I think it has more to do with proper oil change intervals using quality oil than one brand over another.
@alexanderkennedy2969 changing the oil at that mileage schedule, even regular oil will keep things clean. I use semi synthetic and change it out between 2800-4000 mi, depending on how long the oil has been in the engine
Thanks. Have a Jeep Cherokee with the 3.2 V6. It has the dry start issue, maybe because of the location of the oil cooler/filter housing located on top of the engine. I was using Mobil 1 extended performance. So I tried the ultra platinum based on your data. See if it’s quieter at startup. So far it actually is quieter. Time will tell, but so far so good thank you.
It will stay quieter too. I made the same switch on a 2012 silverado that had the very slight cold start tick at times, especially once i got to 3500-5k miles on the Mobile 1. Once I made the switch to PUP, the noise has gone, no matter how cold and all the way to my 5k change intervals. It also retains better oil pressure til the end of its 5k miles. It seems to be a far superior oil, and that's from someone who swore by M1 for many years. I've definitely been converted.
i use ultra platinum 5w30 in my turbo cx5 in northern Canada,, and sometimes i have to cold start below -36 celcius. it has never failed me. very good extreme cold performance.
Hope you plug the car in, have a battery warmer and interior car warmer. I plug my car in at those temps - but I don't care, I don't drive my car in -36°F weather. My outdoor plug in easily handles the power of everything (12.5 watts).
As a weirdo, when I drive my vehicle I'm always thinking about the internal workings of my motors as I drive them. To the point in my nice car I monitor oil and trans temps during regular drives. I find the look into the oils themselves and their individual properties to be very fascinating. I also want to try this oil now on my next change.. I have to watch more of your videos though to really decide, the research has only just begun
Honestly I'm on my initial factory oil. I'm at about 50,000 Miles..... Aauughh even just kidding about it makes me cringe. Nah, seriously, at about 1,000 Miles, have my first service with the dealer booked for April (It's parked for the winter). They're going to use factory AC Delco oil I'm sure, but when I'm off the leash of the first 2 services I WAS planning on Mobil 1 synthetic. I'm really liking the sounds of this Pennzoil Ultra Platinum though.. @@s7v7nfiv5
I've done a ton of research as a fellow weirdo. Once I got a new car I started watching a ton of videos on oil and how the car works. Lookup The Car Care Nut on youtube and how to make Toyota last over 300k miles. Same basic maintenance goes for almost every car. Best oil is a full synthetic like Amsoil but I prefer the Pennzoil Ultra Platinum because of the cost. As long as you're changing every 5k/6 months you're fine. As for the transmission fluid, you got to look up your specific car but the mechanic recommends drain and fills only and I'd say drop the pan to clean and also change transmission filter. Mechanics just say go with the OEM transmission fluid, but I decided to go with Amsoil Signature. It is a 100% synthetic and can withstand colder/hotter temps. It also has extended maintenance schedule although I will be following the recommendation schedule either way. Extra protection never hurts. A transmission or engine costs way more than oil.
I use this oil in my GR COROLLA and got better milage. Was wondering the difference so thanks for the tip. Im glad that I went to the PUP instead of the platinum. I guy told me that they were the same but now i know that it isn't 😊
I’ve been using this for years- almost as good as Amsoil and much cheaper. If only it were readily available in stores. A pain to get but so much better. Worth it.
@@steverugerguy9606 IF I have to have it shipped to me anyway, I am treating my baby to the Ravenol DXG stuff (yup, LOTS MORE $$$ but worth it!). Part of the reason for using any of the NOT truly synthetic, 'readily available and cheap' U.S. 'synthetic' oils is being able to just walk into Sino Mart and picking up a 5 gallon jug right OFF OF THE SHELF, for low bucks.😉
Just went from Platinum to Ultra in my 170K mile GM 3.0 V6. Platinum had 4200 miles on it and I changed it out today for Ultra. at 174K miles I'll take a gander at it. The oil I drained today looked much better than the Mobil 1 I had been using for the last 20 years.
You know, I noticed the same as I have been using Mobil 1 Extended Performance 0w20 in my Honda Accord since new all the time and every time I trained it the look of it disappointed me always. After watching Project Farm video, I decided to give it a try with Pennzoil Ultra Platinum when the car had 70K miles on the odometer. Despite the fact I me being skeptical, the engine started working quieter and smoother right away, literally no vibration. Then after some time I noticed that even the gas mileage slightly improved- I did mostly routine driving and make a note of every gas fill I do, so the gas mileage changed from 24-25 to 26-27 mpg. The same I did with my other car that was Toyota Avalon and I had the same effect. My mechanic still stands on his ground that Mobil1 is a better oil and I appreciate his experience and opinion, but in reality the numbers from the oil analysis report and my personal experience tells me different.
Project farm did a pennzoil test and I was blown away by how bad the cold flow rate was of the regular platinum. I HIGHLY recommend buying Ultra platinum if it fits your budget. If not, just grab some super tech lol
Super Tech used to be a good value, but these days if you look at the price you may as well by a name brand because you save maybe a dollar or two at most.
nothing wrong with supertech- have used it plus lucas oil stabilizer in my sentra (MR20DE) for the last 80K and have had no issues. i also use the lucas upper-cylinder lube in my fuel.
I like the one project farm did where he tested mobil 1 and amazon basics which is the same as super tech and kirkland,and the mobil 1 had better wear protection....
Bought a 2019 Infiniti QX60 brand new. 4.5years later still running strong using Pennzoil Platinum over 110,000 miles changing every 7,000 miles, and taking advantage of the rebates!
Got my first oil change in on my new Ecoboost 2.0L, just under 1,500 miles. Oddly, Ultra wasn't readily available from our vendors, it just disappeared from their order pages in the past week or so, but Platinum will do the trick. The biggest thing people need to understand is that it's important to change your oil! Don't solely rely upon manufacturers recommendations, nor upon oil life monitors; know your operating conditions, know the environment you operate in and it's demands upon maintenance too. My oil life monitor would have had me going over 10k. I'd never advocate that for anyone outside of fleet vehicle constantly traveling and not under extreme conditions/loads. I've worked in dealerships a good part of my life, I've seen what extended intervals can do, and certainly what being completely cheap when it comes to protecting your investment can do. It's always far better to spend an additional $100 a year on and oil change than having to spend upwards of $5000 for an engine replacement -- but try getting that across to some people.
@@hotrodray6802 Most of the vehicles being traded in at dealerships are around or just over the 100K mark. People don't buy cars and treat them like investments like they used to. They buy them, abuse them, then trade them in. A lot of cars are hitting 100K miles within 4-5 years now. I've got a customer with a 2018 Escape that is over 250K miles already. Have a customer with a 2019 Expedition that will likely break 200K miles this year.
My wife drove her first Accord 380k and some kid bought and drove through college, first odyssey drove 460k only quit driving because front end shot didn’t want to invest any money into it , current odyssey has 260k she drives 80 miles round trip to work , all on mobile 1 full synthetic, all bought new and change every 5k -6k myself , once after surgery went 11k
I avoid videos with music in the background because it confuses my hearing aids. I did make it through this one, because I want the best for my car, but it was a challenge.
I worked at a full service gas station in the 1970's, some of the big motor oil sellers were Wolf's Head....Veedol........Royal Triton, it had a purple tint to it.......Phillps 66 Trop Artic......Havoline..............usually 10/30 and 10/40 for the weight..........STP oil treatment as an oil additive..........Nox -Ice as gas line anti-freeze. Motor Oil was about 70 to 75 cents a quart!!!!!! The cheap non-detergent was Econo...35 cents a quart in a green cardboard can. Some were in metal quart cans, you had to puncture the can with the spout to pour it in the engine.
Great memories. I remember hand pumping oil out of a drum to fill quart glass bottles. Then twist on the red pointed spout/cap to pour a quart into the engine. It was one of the first jobs my dad gave me as a little kid. Thanks for reminding me. Good times.
Very nice video being a mechanical engineer working in rotating machinery for heavy API I really appreciate your approach and review of the data and the aspects you have shared and your experience.
I started out using Valvoline oil back in 1973. I first tried Mobil 1 in 1982 while living in the Denver, CO metro area. Switched to Penzoil 5w30 Euro L, in 2016 for my Ram Ecodiesel, but that got changed to Rotella T6 5w40. When I bought a 2020 Dodge Durango, I put Penzoil Platinum 0w20 for the first oil change. Then switched to Penzoil Ultra Platinum 0w40 after that. I drive predominantly highway miles on speed control. I had one oil change that I could not get the Ultra Platinum. And I could feel a difference. Back in August of 2023 I bought a Jeep JLU Sport S Altitude. The Jeep will get the Ultra Platinum 0w40 with its second oil change too. Todays synthetics are impressive. My wife's 2018 Ram 2500 6.7L runs Rotella T6 5w40 all year round. And when the dealer mistakenly put 15w40 oil in instead of the 5w40 I requested. Even the tech noticed a change in the way the engine ran. Run Penzoil Ultra Platinum for gasoline engines, and Rottella T6 for diesel. For the best costs to benefits.
@@geojohnson5613not quite true, several vehicles sold in America call for one type of oil and the exact same vehicle in other countries call for a different oil in the same engine. A lot of it has to do with fuel mileage requirements. Research it yourself.
@@diegaspumper8501 I agree with you to a certain extent that it's also about trying to squeeze out that extra 1/2 mile to gallon of gas. I also know that the VVT system is complex and requires a lower viscosity oil. The camshaft solenoids have very fine screens that the oil must pass through to activate the cam phasers. Use the oil viscosity specified by the manufacturer and change it often.
I tried PUP 5W-20 for the first oil change in my new 3.2L v6 2022 Cherokee. I noted a nearly immediate increase in my mileage. So far, it's jumped about 1.5 mpg. I believe I'm going to continue using PUP, in spite of the fact it's significantly more expensive than regular Platinum. And I'm going to switch to PUP for my 09 SRT8, too, even though it's only offered in single qts for the 0W-40.
So just recently iv becom a follower of Lake and some how this video was the first I stumbled upon. So forst thing first . I drive a 2016 f 150. I always used mobile 1 5w20 in it. And it was always noisy ALWAYS!!! I asked mechanics, I asked ford technicians, I asked ford corporate.they all said the same thing....."these trucks just have a little more engine noise than most others" to be clear what I was hearing sounded like a very soft valve tick. I mean from day 1- mile 0 this truck ticked very softly. Fast forward to present day (5-9-24) I switched to Pennzoil ultra platinum 5w20. And this motor is SIGNIFICANTLY quieter. Runs smoother (seemingly) . Im glad I switched. Lake thank you for giving some indepth insight into the quality of oil and what makes it a good oil.
In experimenting with different motor oils a few years ago, saw that with PUP on my '14 Accord, it's quieter right away. No more tick sounds (from the lifters I believe). A real audible difference. This was proof that PUP was doing something different. I've since switched to PUP on the newer ES exclusively. Only wish is that PUP was more readily available.
I have a Sentra I use as an around town gas saver, my G8 with a 6.8 stroker gets 8 mpg and we use my wife's ML350 Mercedes as a family trip car. I just got some of the ultra platinum on sale on Amazon in 0w40 and put it in the Sentra today; my results were exactly the same as yours. I've never run cheap oil in any of my cars, even the Nissan gets group 4 or 5 oil. The car has never been quieter right off the bat until today, it's always been a particularly noisy four cylinder. I swear by the Mobil 1 FS 0w40 Euro for the Mercedes, but I just went back and ordered another pack of the Pennzoil for it as well just to see how it does with that motor.
used the ultra on my wrx for 3 years no issue, great fuel mileage. got an sti in july, drained whatever was in there after 1000 miles. put the ultra in and instantly gained 4-5 mpg. this oil is magic
Yes in Project Farm's test Pennz Ultra Platinum was only beat by Amsoil signature series. What I would like to see though is a wear test between all 3 Amsoil grades(Sig Series vs XL boosted vs OE) to see if a lower one can match the SS on the wear tests. That would be very helpful.
@@alejandrotobienne8220 I don't think you can say that confidently. I doubt supertech is that great as I've heard some horror stories from people using it but I've also heard some good info on it too.
I agree. The Signature Series used to be the only of those three oils which advertised being 100% synthetic on the bottle, which lead a lot of people to believe that it was a "real" group 4 PAO based synthetic while their OE and XL oils were made from group 3 base stocks. Now all three of those oils claim to be 100% synthetic, so it's unclear what changed, if anything. My guess is they probably just started marketing group 3 oils as "100% synthetic" instead of "full synthetic" like they used to, but I could be wrong.
Now they have Amsoil Signature Series, Extended-life, OE, High-mileage, and Hybrid Full Synthetics. I would like to test all FIVE and have the results side by side. I believe they reformulated when they changed the oil filters. Fram Endurance filters and Amsoil filters are identical from Champion labs.
@@Balticblue93 Good point, I didn't know they came out with hybrid or high mileage oils. If we want to get technical, they also have Premium Protection, Z Rod, Dominator racing oil, small engine oils, motorcycle oils, marine oils, diesel oils, and quite possibly others that I'm forgetting about.
I used Pennzoil Ultra Platinum in my 2023 Corolla GR (G16e-GTS turbo engine) performance car since the first oil change. I have 16k miles and change oil every 2500 miles (6 oil changes so far). It awesome oil as you suggested it is.
Pennzoil used to be available in my country but not anymore. I’m in South Africa, i have been using Total Quartz Ineo MC3 5W30 fully synthetic on my cars for the last 10 years. It’s been an amazing oil and each of the cars have more than 150 000 miles. One of them a Hyundai i10 1.25 petrol never need any oil top ups during service intervals, in fact it doesn’t use any oil at all, it’s always on the same mark on the dipstick all the time. Please do a test on this oil. Bang for bucks it’s a great oil!
@@themotoroilgeek is there a problem using ultra platinum in a Chevy even tho it’s not Dexos certified? Or should I stay with platinum? This keeps me up at night! I see how good ultra is so I have been running it. Or is there something I’m missing? I’d appreciate your input.
Thanks Lake for this video and sharing your findings. The 5w40 spec oil used in some Porsches will require the Euro Platinum oil. On Pennzoil’s own website it does not state that the Euro Platinum has the “extreme performance” indicated for the Ultra Platinum oils. The Euro oil has the Porsche A40 specification which likely means it has a different additive package and sadly missing the molybdenum. It would be interesting to do a VOA on the Euro oil.
@@themotoroilgeek I was planning to run this in my Macan S with 135k miles instead of mobil 1 because of another video you did. Maybe I’ll wait until you have more data.
They already had me as a customer after making the viper commercial but after researching their products and watching this it makes sense why I’ve been so happy using their oil in my car the last 5 years. They are top of the line
If you’re reading this and drive an air cooled VW or Porsche especially with a big motor like me and you’re wondering about this oil, I’ve been using it for years and absolutely love it. I use the ultra synthetic platinum 5W-30 and I also add a bottle of Rislone ZDDP synthetic additive and it works flawlessly. Hope this helped any air cold heads out there!
Ultra Platinum made my engine noticeably quieter, smoother sounding. Also, Ultra platinum is DEXOS approved according to the official info, But doesn't say it on the front of the bottle like the Penn Platinum label does.
great video! I think the PUP is a great oil and value. I use the 0W-40 in all my Gen 3 Hemi SRT vehicles and has been flawless. Would love to see how the additive package compares to the 5W-30s.
@@themotoroilgeek it’s actually not! You may want to take a look. They were formulated specifically for SRT. You’ll see higher everything overall. I saw a couple VOAs where the moly and boron were even higher as well as calcium and magnesium etc. basically the PUP 5w30 except greater concentrations of add packs.
Going to do my first oil change on my 23 JL WRANGLER with a 5qu bottle of PUP at 1500 miles. A little overdue for my First Oil change but definitely better than a first at 5000
I've used Pennzoil Ultra Platinum oil for quite a while now. Change my oil every 7,500 km, same amount of oil comes out as I put in. Never had any issues, vehicle runs smoothly.
Lake, great informative video. As others below have mentioned, Project Farm YT channel did a great oil smackdown a year or so ago and Pennzoil Ultra Platinum came in the top 3. Price per protection I would have to say it's the best-bang-for-buck oil.
Great show. Love it. I ordered my ultra Penzoil Platinum from USA to Australia for my Kia Rio DGI direct gasoline injection, straight into the chamber. My 1.6lt kio has done 150 thousand klm. Its been suffering at low rev's engine pinging- i have always been usiing 95% or 98% octane fuel. Best fuel i can buy. I have changed my oil every 5klm. I have unfortunately have more pinging with Shell fuel. My economy is little better nothing to brag about. I will keep you in touch with updates, because i put it into my neq Piaggio vespa Medley . Seems to love it.
Just buy Shell Helix Ultra from Repco/supercheap etc - it’s the same oil ;) Shell purchased the Pennzoil brand name years ago to sell Shell oils in the US.
I've been using this in my 2007 FJ Cruiser (Platinum Ultra) and occasionally Platinum since I bought it with 23k on the clock. At 200k now and the engine is still like new. I use Purolator Boss filter, and change ~5000 miles. Never done an UOA on it, but I feel confident that she's doing well with this combo. Amazing channel. I've been an oil geek since high school and ARCO Graphite in my '69 Z/28. Looking back, not a great idea, and it was a helluva mess to clean!
Excellent video and explanation! I just bought the Ultra Platinum for my 2024 Silverado with the 5.3L V8. Really want to make sure this thing is well protected.
From Leo: I believe you have done a great presentation and very sound science. In my life experience, my work had a high degree of travel, like 40K miles a year. 8 cylinder, 6 cylinder and 4 cylinder domestic cars, generally kept them over 4 years. I always started thinking about oil changes at about 3500 to 4000 miles, used whatever brand name dino oil and filter that the convenient oil change place sold. I never had a lubrication failure in anything, clear back to antiquated SE and SF rated oils. We have all these advances, yet valve gear and cam failure is at an all time high even in well maintained cars. Maybe the old zinc cam additives were a lot better than we gave credit.
Thanks for sharing! The higher ZDDP oil with lower detergent levels did a great job with valve train protection. Plus the highway miles are actually easier on the oil, so you regular oil changes also helped. You did well!
During the 70’s, 80’s and early 90’s I was a traveling auto parts salesman and around a lot of engine tear downs. Some of the nastiest then had been using Pennzoil, Quaker State and Gulf oil all of which I was told were paraffin based oils. I presumed they have gotten away from that. Some of the cleanest tear downs were with Valvoline and Havoline. All of these oils were with regular oil changes of 2500 miles which was the general recommended at that time.
I am old enough to remember when a lot of people steered clear of oils based on Pennsylvania crude due to the high wax (paraffin) content. No idea if that is valid now or even valid then but your anecdotal evidence of the engine tear downs seems to indicate it was.
A lot of people saying Pennzoil as a whole is junk are probably either old enough to remember when it wasn't all that great or they're just regurgitating info from people who are behind the times. I'm in my early 40's and remember in the early 2000's the LS in my Silverado starting to knock after about 2000 miles using conventional Pennzoil and Quaker State but never had a problem with Castrol GTX. To be clear, I was burning rubber everywhere I went and was really hard on my oil. I still won't run Pennzoil conventional but tests have shown their Ultra Platinum is about as good as it gets as a daily driver oil. My HEMI seems to be happy with Ultra Platinum.
Since the ultra platinum seems to have more detergent additives, I was curious if you could do a comparison with the major synthetic blend oils out there to see who had the best detergents.
Royal Purple has a great detergent package. It will clean even the dirtiest of motors with several changes. The downside of that is obviously the price. It's quite a bit more expensive than the others.
Search youtube for Amsoil or Pennzoil, which wins Championship? Let's find out! by Projectfarms. He has oil analysis on most oils. I prefer higher antiwear additives for the summer heat.
Yes, there IS a difference! Project Farm proved it years ago! BTW, I don't know about where you live, but down at Puerto Rico, the Ultra Platinum is extremely difficult to get; it's very scarce! Pennzoil should just drop the regular Platinum!!!
Been using it in my vehicles for 2 years now, project farm Convinced me. I use Amsoil in my Dirtbike, just can’t afford it for the truck, this tested damn close to the Amsoil.
Beautiful, thank you, ...I was always curious about the difference between these two oils. I have a turbo engine and like the Pennzoil GTL purebase oils.
You continue to teach me truths concerning motor oils. Thank you! You explain the technical at a 6th grade level. You are a great teacher. For the second time. Thank you! Sometimes I wonder about which oil to use in my 15-20 year old Toyotas and Lexuses? Are the SP oils ok to use?
I use the Pennzoil Platinum in my 2012 Mustang V-6, bought used in 2016 with low mileage. Take the guesswork out of the your oil's effectiveness. When I first got the car, i started on the Pennzoil. Then for the next couple oil changes, I had a sample sent to Blackstone. They were able to tell me the oil still had plenty of life left, and was low on contaminants. So I eventually stretched my change interval to 8000 miles. At that interval, oil was still good and low on contaminants. I elected to stop there, since I don't drive the car all that much, and 8000 miles takes me about a year. So I would want to change it then anyway just based on time. So what about the Ultra Platinum? Based on my experience and the measured results I received from Blackstone, I don't believe the extra cost and protection is warranted in my *particular* situation. Perhaps if I drove more or harder, the step-up might be justified. But that's my point: don't guess, measure and go from there.
I can sit and listen to this channel all day. I'm going to get a jug of this in 5w20 for me 2003 accord and in 0w20 for my 2013 accord v6. See what happens
Cant say enough good things about PUP...my SUV gas mileage went up to 32mog after switching from Mobil 1 a couple years back, oil analysis indicates a solid 10k lifespan in my SUV (I don't go that long), and a quick look at my valve train using a scope inside my oil cap shows little to no deposits at 97,500 miles.
Awesome video and thank you for making it. I would also love to hear your thoughts and analysis on Valvoline Advanced and their high mileage max life stuff.
Lake, after seeing the episode of Lubrication Explained you were in, I have some confusion on oxidation value as it related to DI engines. In that discussion, it was noted that a more robust additive package was not necessarily a good thing in all cases for DI engines. Might be a good subject for clarification... at least for me! Love these presentations!
Thanks for the question. Hopefully this can clear things up. More “Robust” is code for a higher level of all additives, especially calcium based detergents. The high level of Calcium detergent (over 2,500 ppm) the problem for DI engines. It seems that 1,500 ppm or lower on Calcium, LSPI is not a problem, which is why both of these oils are good for DI engines.
@@themotoroilgeek Is it ONLY the calcium levels which adversely effect the GTDI engines, or do any of the other (boron, magnesium, manganese, titanium, etc.) detergents/dispersants also potentially cause harm? Does the calcium also work against any anti-foaming agents added to modern oils as well (or overwhelm them in high PPM concentrations)??
Shell, that owns Pennzoil, was originally planning to refine oil from natural gas in the US, but then decided it would be more economical to just keep refining it in Qatar. Quaker State synthetic oil is not supposed to be from natural gas, but now, some weights of Quaker State synthetic oil are, but with pre canned, cheaper additive packages.
I was an avid Mobil 1 user for 20 years. I switched to Pennzoil over a decade ago with no regrets. In early 2016, I bought a leftover 2015 Sonata 2.0T. I didn't know about the Theta II engine issues when I bought it but I treated it like every new vehicle I buy. First oil change at 1000 mi with Pennzoil Platinum 5W30. Second oil change at 3500 with the same. Third oil change at 8,000 mi but switched to 5W40. I noticed through burn off and other direct injected engine abuse, I lost about a half a quart between 5,000 mi services. I switched to 0w40 Ultra Platinum at around 15,000 mi because I read it had a better burn-off rate and there was no 5W40 Ultra Platinum. The oil loss dropped to maybe a half a cup of oil between 5,000 mi services. The valve cover gasket was being replaced at 80,000 mi under warranty. I asked my service guy if I could go out and take a look at the top end while he had the valve cover off just to see if what I was doing was worthwhile. If I could post a picture here I would. The engine was immaculate. No varnish anywhere. No discoloration. It looked brand new. It was running beautifully at 100,000 miles when it was totaled thanks to a 12R24.5 truck tire lol.
If you're still monitoring this comment, I sincerely want to know, why did you choose a Hyundai over say, a used Camry or Honda Accord? What about this car did you like vs the Japanese cars and what was the deciding factor? And would you buy it again?
@@robertmaybeth3434 I'm 6ft2, 205lbs, and have nerve damage in my legs and feet from cancer nearly taking me out. So legroom and seat comfort are paramount to me. Comfort is of course subjective, but the seats in neither the Camry or Accord in any trim level was comfortable enough for me. I bought a 2008 Sonata on a whim just because I needed a commuter car. It was used and already had 30,000 mi. That was October of 2008. By December of 2012, it had over 170,000 mi on it and it never broke. So I went with the 2015 based on the reliability of the 2008, without knowing about the Theta II engine issues before I bought it. Served me well for the 100,000 mi I drove it before a truck tire took it out. I'm at almost 3.5 years and 52K on the 21 N Line and it has been just as reliable...
First time watcher. Love the episode and subscribed. Just a tip on editing, the music was a little loud and sometimes drowned out you talking. Keep it up. Thanks for the content.
Project Farms did it and Amsoil barely squeaked by Penzoil Ultra Platinum. I would just stick with Penzoil to save the money. Its almost half of what Amsoil is and provides almost identical protection.
Even though they already went head to head, I just want to see what SPEEDiagnostix finds in Amsoils virgin sample compared to Blackstone that Project Farm uses for the learning experience. They may do tests a little different than Blackstone does.
If you’re talking about Walmart/Amazon those are resellers marking it up when Walmart and Amazon are out of stock. Walmart sells Ultra Platinum for $32 for 5 quart jug. Pretty easily to obtain normally
@@TheLonesometoad Yeah, I’m talking about ordering off the internet. Walmart will ship to your house. Looking for Ultra Platinum on the shelf is almost impossible.
API, SAE standards are just that. However with the increase cost of vehicles, fuel and oil competition, its great to see which companies are producing top tier oils that ARE the best in this arena. Just meeting a standard is the minimum to produce and sell. Today , the shear properties and additives are terrific. Thank you for the content.
Boron nitride is a very effective extreem pressure additive. Has been used in steam locomotives since the 1850's. I used boron to lubricate automatic welding heads. Boron on the fingers feels a bit like fine locksmith graphite.
Hexagonal boron nitride actually has a chemical structure that is very similar to graphite, so they have similar properties. The boron nitride has a major advantage of not being combustible or electrically conductive. Did you know you can buy solid sticks of the stuff? Hugely expensive, but if you need to make a low friction bushing that can survive inside a furnace I guess there aren't many alternatives.
I remember when Royal purple came out, they claimed a 10 hp increase if you switched out all your fluids to theirs. Think it was horse power tv, did it and it did make more hp, but did dyno number’s get fudged to make them look good, seeing that they were a sponsor of the show.
I don't know about RP. If it's a good true synthetic base and not a gtl group III & conventional petroleum mishmash I'd say sure it's possible. I have heard some folks say they have actually seen some fuel mileage improvements using the AMSOIL Signature Series oils. So there's that.
@@FishFind3000 yeah but straight 30, 10w30, 5W30 and even 0W30 are all supposed to be thirty W at operating temperature. So what would be the difference other than their low temp viscosities being different. Surely they wouldn't do a Dyno pull with a cold engine huh?
Your videos are great. I've been using PUP and PP for a long time. I'd be curious to see your interpretation on these vs the Valvoline Premium Full Syn Extended and Premium Extended High Mileage. There has been a lot of talk on these oils on BITOG.
We had a 05 gmc 1500 in our work truck fleet , when we sold it there was 490000 km on it . Engine never touched except a water pump and a starter . It was a 5.3. It only had ultra platinum pennzoil from day one
I have been here watching your videos So firstly I'd like to say thank you for sharing this knowledge its been helpful in me deciding on what oil to buy for my next oil change......Thanks from Canada
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I became an Ultra Platinum convert after that Project Farm competition. Nearly as good as Amsoil but not nearly as expensive, especially at major retailers' sale prices.
One year edit: Wow, I didn't anticipate this starting such a broad discussion. Again, Shell has the global economies of scale to offer superior value.
Virtually identical in every aspect, at a far lower price. Its cold-flow properties are best in class.
Same here! Basically the same oil for darn near half the price. Combine that with the Purolator Boss filter and you get essentially equal performance for much less money.
@@richestmanbutnotlikethat Amsoil oil filters aren't nearly top-of-the-line. If you cut one open, it is as basic as it gets.
That's all I've been using since I saw the Project Farm comparison. The price of the Ultra has gone up considerably since the Project Farm test. I'll bet Project Farm boosted their sales.
@@moshet842 100% agree. I switched to Microgard two years ago and am very impressed with their quality and value. Whip City Wrencher did some cut-aways, which showed excellent construction.
I had this nissan. I worked 50 km away. I worked nights, I am on the highway in a couple of minutes, work is just off the highway. Road is always quiet, always drive exact same speed with cruise control every day. I always had 6.7 L/100km for my milage. That was with the Top of the line Synthetic Mobile 1. One time I switched to Pennzoil Ultra Platinum Synthetic. Instantly I went down to 6.2 - 6.1 L/100km. remained at that range consistently after switching. It saved me enough fuel every week to get approximately 1 more trip to work (one way). That's amazing difference! I always use that oil now, even with my new car.
My understanding is when the calcium detergent is lower, it increase the effectiveness of molybdenum and zddp which improve wear protection and lower friction at the same time since less competition for metal surface from calcium deterrent. I have read from Eneos X Prime series engine oil bulletin which could be 2.5 times more effective for molybdenum to reduce friction coefficient at the same time lower zddp level compare to old additive package formula also reduce friction from other Lake Speed TH-cam clip.
Isn't possible liquidmoly oil said nothing closer to zero friction????????
@@waynehung4801 no pennzoil product in Taiwan
Perfect post for the full mend club 😂 thank you for your data
Did your oil level remain exactly the same as before? A lower oil level will give better fuel economy.
I’ve always wondered this exact breakdown. Proof that the different labels aren’t just marketing gimmicks
Shell is a prestigious brand, Shell has been a Ferrari partner in Motorsport, needless to mention Paris Dakar, DTM, 24 hrs du mans.... And I don't believe that shell will sell BS to its customer. Amsoil has been along since the 70s just like the Malaysian PETRONAS while shell was founded in the late 1800s.
Shell is the only brand that makes group 4 oils from GTL. No other brand does that
@@danteerskine7678 Well said. Shell takes too much pride in their own R&D heritage to put out subpar products
@@Stapleton42 For me, shell Helix ultra is the ultimate flagship. If this oil is hard to find in the US, they sure can be found at any shell petrol station
Motul also has the high performance 300v ESTER core engine oil and this oil is a 100 percent synthetic sold in Europe
For synthetics, motul and shell are my go to oils. The 300v and Helix ultra, both surpass any European stringent requirements and they deserve to be called fully synthetic
This guy has knowledge. He is worth hearing.
Thanks!
Definitely some of the best technical oil analysis on TH-cam, if not the best.
key word is technical go ask a legit mechanic whats up for oil if u really wanna know
@@TerdisLesezchuan ... No. I am the mechanic, hahaha.
Ultra Platinum is a great oil. It’s my go-to for all my vehicles. Blackstone reports have been perfect for every sample submitted.
How many miles and how long are your oil change intervals? Also do you mostly drive highway miles?
@@LexusJDM350 5K intervals, once per year. 75% city driving.
I'm with ya brother I do the exact same thing.
@@LexusJDM350I do mostly highway miles in my Type R. Perfect Blackstone reports with Ultra. I change every 5K to 6K
@@thinkforyourself5672 Thanks for the reply. I am switching to the Ultra in February. Been using Mobil 1 Extended Protection but I seen tests where the Ultra performs better. You got a nice car man. I am thinking about either that one or a Lexus LC500 once I switch in the future. For now I got a GS350.
Been using Ultra Platinum in my vehicles for the last couple years. I have been happy with it.
But realistically, could you tell the difference between anything else?
How ya liking that price?
@@hotrodray6802Quaker State Euro 5w40 is just repackaged Pennzoil Ultra Platinum at $22.95 a jug. You're welcome. 😁
@Jeffsdata_0 I sure could. In my chevy that's got 259k miles, it's is much quieter on startup and seems to do slightly better on fuel economy. Also, I can go 5k between changes and the engine is just as quiet at 5 k as when I put the oil in. Cheaper oils almost made me alarmed a 5k the valve train was so noisy.
@@Jeffsdata_0 for me yes. I was under the impression that My Subaru dealer uses OEM oil from Subaru but they used this stuff call mobile special which you can get for like a dollar a quart and it's sold to big companies in big tanks. Let me tell u it sucked and gave my car a lifter tick after doing one cycle. I'm thinking of trying liqimolly oil and their lifter tick additive or maybe I'll just try penzoil again.
Oh man this is the more-science-based, nerding-out-on-oil content I was looking for. Glad I found this channel! The discussion the "the best oil" is a never ending discussion, but ALMOST NEVER is conversation technical in nature like this about the actual composition of these oil products and what makes them actually work & be different.
Thanks! We have WAY MORE coming...
You must be one of those engineers
Its an explanation here; no conversation was had since only one person is presenting..
My wife’s 2004 Lexus RX330 (255K miles) used to burn a quart of oil between oil changes when using Mobil 1. When I switched over to Pennzoil Ultra Synthetic High Milage, she hasn’t burned a single drop and gets a couple more miles to the gallon than before. For me this is the best bang for your buck oil out there. Hands down.
Thanks for sharing!
Similar to me in my 2002 ES300. Went from Ultra platinum to high mileage synthetic and it doesn’t burn any oil between 5k oil changes. Used to burn 1 quart over same mileage interval
Thanks for the info.👍
I used to have a 2000 Mustang GT that always seemed to burn oil in between oil changes no matter which brand I used. After I tried Ultra Platinum that stopped. I still use it in all of my cars today because of so.
To be clear- I don’t believe there’s a Pennzoil ULTRA platinum high mileage product. It’s Pennzoil Platinum High Mileage.
Nice thing is, he's a nice guy in real life too. My friend saw him while grocery shopping and said he was super friendly.
Thank you!
He gave me a middle finger .....so ifk
I just picked up Pennzoil Ultra Platinum 0W-20 (5-quart, case of 3) on Amazon for the great price of $71.16 (or only $23.72 per jug)! I'm very happy with the purchase; my mailman less so. My Honda K24 also has no complaints.
Thanks for sharing!
Yup this is it
Honda having bearing problems last few yrs in some of its engines. Not good at all!
@kanyeeastlolz Great oil. Hondas though..not so sure.
@@Davido50new Honda's are trash
I've been wondering about this oil for a few years and now Lake gives a scrutinized analysis of it. Amazing
Glad it was helpful!
@@themotoroilgeekhello Mr TMOG.. I own a 2008 Prius 177k miles with the low tension piston oil rings... 51.8 mpg winter /54.3 mpg summer
Oil consumption is part of ownership... To minimize the oil consumption Rotella T6 5/40 (Toyota recommends 5/30) Synthetic has my oil consumption to 1 ,- 1.25 quart every 5k miles
I just did my oil change at 5k miles.. I will perform my next oil change with 5/30 PUP
If interested I will report back my findings... I have used all synthetics by mobile 1 .. regular Pennzoil platinum... Castrol... Royal purple...
Least oil consumption was with the Rotella.. worse oil consumption was with the regular Pennzoil platinum...
I have been using Pennzoil Platinum Euro synthetic 5w-40 in my 2016 VW Golf S MK7 with a Stage one tune for eight years since new. My Golf uses no oil from oil change to oil change and I have had zero engine issues even with the hard driving I do daily. The Blackstone oil analysis is always stellar. 👍
Right on!
I wish they made Pennzoil Ultra Plat euro 5w40, I use Plat euro on my BMWs as well, change it every 5000km, when it drops below -25C here in Canada I switch to Amsoil or Redline to protect rod bearings as those are proven to be better for extreme cold starts.
@@e.e9331they used too! I’m not sure what happened to it but it was my go to oil for my Passat but one day it wasn’t on the shelves and I haven’t seen it since
@@e.e9331I use ultra platinum 0w40 since I live in Colorado in my b58. Stage 2 91 oct. ots tune. It’s not my daily so I change it every 3k cause it sits more than it drives. Been phenomenal for me so far.
What for a 2019 Golf R Wolfsburg edition? I have Mobil 1's 0W-30 ESP in it, and it's burning the oil level down fast. 0W-30 ESP is all what Walmart has that fits the Golf R's requirements. This car only gets around 1,000 miles a year, no joke. I need an oil I don't have to order and isn't an arm and a leg. Thinking about Valvoline extended protection 5W-30 in autumn, and the 10W-30 in the spring. No Euro oil. At least the Valvoline would have a lot more moly than most all the euro oils.
Another Pennoil Ultra Platinum convert here. First day starts today 5/2024. Your knowlegeable reviews is what made me switch. Keep up the great work!
What the hell?? I went and bought the Platinum oil and had no idea that I was supposed to buy the "Ultra Platinum." Jeeze, could they have come up with a less confusing naming scheme? Now I have to go out into the garage to figure out what the hell I bought. Haha.
After a 6 year DIY oil change hiatus, I'm getting back in to changing my own oil. Just wanted to say I love your channel.
Same for me. Why pay over $100 when I can diy for $45. I work in an auto parts store part time as well so I get some discounts.
I did my first oil change with this oil. I tow a lot with a gas motor F250. I'm glad to hear you opinion of this.
Go team 6.2L gasser!
Thanks Lake. I’ve been wondering about this for a long time. Great to have an experienced person lay out the facts and data on the oils.
Glad it was helpful!
@@themotoroilgeekare Schaeffer's oils really good? Are they well formulated? Is Mobil 1 ep really good? Please respond because I am truly interested in oils. Thanks and keep up the good work. Jason
we will do a video about that sometime@@jasonhavers5961
Pennzoil was above all the other majors when it came to the total package for TW3 on boat oils. Outstanding labs results. This was conducted by Bass & Walleye Boats many years ago showing all the perimeters. Been terrific for our program for 30 years.
I use TCW3 marine oil in my vehicles Jeep Grand Cherokee and Honda Ridgeline and Dodge Ram 1500 tradesman truck gasoline at 1oz per five gallons of gasoline. Works great been doing it for years. TCW3 burns ash less won’t harm catalytic converters or sensors. More doesn’t mean better here. You can read about using TCW3 in vehicles on Google. You won’t know your vehicle is running at idle. One gallon treats 640 gallons oil gasoline. Buy a quart try it in a few tanks. You won’t be disappointed.
I use Marine outboard TCW3 oil in the Volvo Jeep and my Ram 1500 gasoline at 1 oz per five gallon of gasoline. Works just like in the two cycle engines. Been doing this for years and the vehicle’s pass emissions inspection with flying colors. Try it in your vehicles you won’t know your vehicle is running at idle. Smooth
Used ultra platinum in gas vehicles after I dug up a several hundred page comparison between tons of oil and oils with additives and their relative performance. It's great stuff.
Link, please?
I used to be a long time Mobil 1 user for 20+ years.
I tried Pennzoil Platinum and Ultra Platinum after doing a lot of research. Since using the Pennzoil Platinum/Ultra Platinum in both of my vehicles they both run smoother and quieter.
I’m definitely a Pennzoil Platinum/Ultra platinum convert now.
Thanks for sharing!
@@themotoroilgeek you’re welcome.
I used to be a mobil 1 user.....and still am.
@@steverugerguy9606 give the Pennzoil Ultra Platinum a try, you won’t be disappointed.
That project farm video really has y'all gassed up. It's all in your head.
I've been using it for over five years. The garage suggested upgrading to it, and it was immediately obvious. My engine ran smoother and revved quicker. Also less evaporation to cause deposits in DI engines.
Thanks for sharing!
Four or six cylinder for a car to run smoothly.
Been using this for quite a few yrs. Installed a catch can on my 2.7 Eco. Only about a teaspoon of oil in it between oil changes.
@@ThomasFrey-d8d That's great. I really need to do that. I think I have to walnut blast my valves at only 85k miles :/
I only get about a teaspoon of oil in my catch can, between changes. Ecoboost 2.7
I use this for my IS500 and it made a world of a difference:) i also used it in my 21 tundra!
Doesnt burn oil and even after running it hard for 5k miles it still looks almost the same and doesnt smell burnt.
I have a 2015 Ecoboost 3.5 F-150. I’ve used mostly PUP and I did the valve cover gaskets from a prior timing chain cover leak under warranty that wasn’t done right. No fault of the oil. I was amazed at how clean the valve train was on the engine. Looked like brand new. Definitely sold me on the product. But I do change the oil before 4K miles so no doubt that helps.
Good oil changed frequently = clean engine & less wear
I’ve had a 2009 5.4 since new. Well maintained with a variety of engine oils over the years starting with dealer Motorcraft oil for the first 8 years. Had the valve covers off last fall for the first time and it also still appeared as clean and shiny as new inside. I think it has more to do with proper oil change intervals using quality oil than one brand over another.
@@squangan agreed!
@alexanderkennedy2969 changing the oil at that mileage schedule, even regular oil will keep things clean. I use semi synthetic and change it out between 2800-4000 mi, depending on how long the oil has been in the engine
Thanks. Have a Jeep Cherokee with the 3.2 V6. It has the dry start issue, maybe because of the location of the oil cooler/filter housing located on top of the engine. I was using Mobil 1 extended performance. So I tried the ultra platinum based on your data. See if it’s quieter at startup. So far it actually is quieter. Time will tell, but so far so good thank you.
Thanks for sharing!
It will stay quieter too. I made the same switch on a 2012 silverado that had the very slight cold start tick at times, especially once i got to 3500-5k miles on the Mobile 1. Once I made the switch to PUP, the noise has gone, no matter how cold and all the way to my 5k change intervals. It also retains better oil pressure til the end of its 5k miles.
It seems to be a far superior oil, and that's from someone who swore by M1 for many years. I've definitely been converted.
i use ultra platinum 5w30 in my turbo cx5 in northern Canada,, and sometimes i have to cold start below -36 celcius. it has never failed me. very good extreme cold performance.
Thanks for sharing!
Good day from Ontario So # oil do u use in tht cold weather? Thanks
Hope you plug the car in, have a battery warmer and interior car warmer. I plug my car in at those temps - but I don't care, I don't drive my car in -36°F weather. My outdoor plug in easily handles the power of everything (12.5 watts).
As a weirdo, when I drive my vehicle I'm always thinking about the internal workings of my motors as I drive them. To the point in my nice car I monitor oil and trans temps during regular drives. I find the look into the oils themselves and their individual properties to be very fascinating. I also want to try this oil now on my next change.. I have to watch more of your videos though to really decide, the research has only just begun
Well crap I didn’t realize that I too, am a weirdo.
WEIRDOS, UNITE! Hahaha
I'm weird too!
Honestly I'm on my initial factory oil. I'm at about 50,000 Miles..... Aauughh even just kidding about it makes me cringe. Nah, seriously, at about 1,000 Miles, have my first service with the dealer booked for April (It's parked for the winter). They're going to use factory AC Delco oil I'm sure, but when I'm off the leash of the first 2 services I WAS planning on Mobil 1 synthetic. I'm really liking the sounds of this Pennzoil Ultra Platinum though.. @@s7v7nfiv5
Weirdos unite!!@@devnull128
I've done a ton of research as a fellow weirdo. Once I got a new car I started watching a ton of videos on oil and how the car works. Lookup The Car Care Nut on youtube and how to make Toyota last over 300k miles. Same basic maintenance goes for almost every car. Best oil is a full synthetic like Amsoil but I prefer the Pennzoil Ultra Platinum because of the cost. As long as you're changing every 5k/6 months you're fine. As for the transmission fluid, you got to look up your specific car but the mechanic recommends drain and fills only and I'd say drop the pan to clean and also change transmission filter. Mechanics just say go with the OEM transmission fluid, but I decided to go with Amsoil Signature. It is a 100% synthetic and can withstand colder/hotter temps. It also has extended maintenance schedule although I will be following the recommendation schedule either way. Extra protection never hurts. A transmission or engine costs way more than oil.
I use this oil in my GR COROLLA and got better milage. Was wondering the difference so thanks for the tip. Im glad that I went to the PUP instead of the platinum. I guy told me that they were the same but now i know that it isn't 😊
I’ve been using this for years- almost as good as Amsoil and much cheaper. If only it were readily available in stores. A pain to get but so much better. Worth it.
Walmart online
@@02hreblue30 Yep, that's what I do.
Thats why i dont use it or try it for that matter.
@@steverugerguy9606 IF I have to have it shipped to me anyway, I am treating my baby to the Ravenol DXG stuff (yup, LOTS MORE $$$ but worth it!).
Part of the reason for using any of the NOT truly synthetic, 'readily available and cheap' U.S. 'synthetic' oils is being able to just walk into Sino Mart and picking up a 5 gallon jug right OFF OF THE SHELF, for low bucks.😉
0-40 for hemis is a pain to find
Just went from Platinum to Ultra in my 170K mile GM 3.0 V6. Platinum had 4200 miles on it and I changed it out today for Ultra. at 174K miles I'll take a gander at it. The oil I drained today looked much better than the Mobil 1 I had been using for the last 20 years.
I’m about to give it a go myself
You know, I noticed the same as I have been using Mobil 1 Extended Performance 0w20 in my Honda Accord since new all the time and every time I trained it the look of it disappointed me always. After watching Project Farm video, I decided to give it a try with Pennzoil Ultra Platinum when the car had 70K miles on the odometer. Despite the fact I me being skeptical, the engine started working quieter and smoother right away, literally no vibration. Then after some time I noticed that even the gas mileage slightly improved- I did mostly routine driving and make a note of every gas fill I do, so the gas mileage changed from 24-25 to 26-27 mpg. The same I did with my other car that was Toyota Avalon and I had the same effect. My mechanic still stands on his ground that Mobil1 is a better oil and I appreciate his experience and opinion, but in reality the numbers from the oil analysis report and my personal experience tells me different.
290k miles on my Acura TL on mobil 1 synthetic, great oil.
@@civicpride1986yes it is....i personally think mobil 1 is hard to beat in the real world and longetivity.
This has been my go-to oil as well for my GR86. Daily driven with annual HPDE events. No complaints so far!
Thanks for sharing!
What viscosity?
Project farm did a pennzoil test and I was blown away by how bad the cold flow rate was of the regular platinum. I HIGHLY recommend buying Ultra platinum if it fits your budget. If not, just grab some super tech lol
Super Tech used to be a good value, but these days if you look at the price you may as well by a name brand because you save maybe a dollar or two at most.
nothing wrong with supertech- have used it plus lucas oil stabilizer in my sentra (MR20DE) for the last 80K and have had no issues. i also use the lucas upper-cylinder lube in my fuel.
I like the one project farm did where he tested mobil 1 and amazon basics which is the same as super tech and kirkland,and the mobil 1 had better wear protection....
@@steverugerguy9606mobil 1 shears too much
@@steverugerguy9606 Look again, I just did, Mobile One is 1394ppm, Amazon is 1438ppm, Supertech is 1474. Higher is better. Mobile One is lower.
Dear Oil Geek
My ultra premium complements to your contributions as regards oil. Please keep it up!!! It is way beyond appreciated
Many thanks!!!
Bought a 2019 Infiniti QX60 brand new. 4.5years later still running strong using Pennzoil Platinum over 110,000 miles changing every 7,000 miles, and taking advantage of the rebates!
Got my first oil change in on my new Ecoboost 2.0L, just under 1,500 miles. Oddly, Ultra wasn't readily available from our vendors, it just disappeared from their order pages in the past week or so, but Platinum will do the trick.
The biggest thing people need to understand is that it's important to change your oil! Don't solely rely upon manufacturers recommendations, nor upon oil life monitors; know your operating conditions, know the environment you operate in and it's demands upon maintenance too. My oil life monitor would have had me going over 10k. I'd never advocate that for anyone outside of fleet vehicle constantly traveling and not under extreme conditions/loads. I've worked in dealerships a good part of my life, I've seen what extended intervals can do, and certainly what being completely cheap when it comes to protecting your investment can do. It's always far better to spend an additional $100 a year on and oil change than having to spend upwards of $5000 for an engine replacement -- but try getting that across to some people.
Agreed, shorter drain intervals are better than long drain intervals.
Who actually keeps a car that long?
Veeeeery few.
@@hotrodray6802 I don't know, I work in a dealership and see cars with high mileage all the time. Well over 100k isn't that unusual.
@@hotrodray6802 Most of the vehicles being traded in at dealerships are around or just over the 100K mark. People don't buy cars and treat them like investments like they used to. They buy them, abuse them, then trade them in. A lot of cars are hitting 100K miles within 4-5 years now. I've got a customer with a 2018 Escape that is over 250K miles already. Have a customer with a 2019 Expedition that will likely break 200K miles this year.
My wife drove her first Accord 380k and some kid bought and drove through college, first odyssey drove 460k only quit driving because front end shot didn’t want to invest any money into it , current odyssey has 260k she drives 80 miles round trip to work , all on mobile 1 full synthetic, all bought new and change every 5k -6k myself , once after surgery went 11k
Mr. Speed your videos are so good and informative and to the point, you don't need the background music. It just takes away from your info
Noted
I like the music jus keep it lower a little
Agreed. I've had no TV in my home for the past 23 years, yet that music still triggered me to get up and go pee as if a commercial break was starting.
@@anon8613Yeah, a little loud.
I avoid videos with music in the background because it confuses my hearing aids. I did make it through this one, because I want the best for my car, but it was a challenge.
I worked at a full service gas station in the 1970's, some of the big motor oil sellers were Wolf's Head....Veedol........Royal Triton, it had a purple tint to it.......Phillps 66 Trop Artic......Havoline..............usually 10/30 and 10/40 for the weight..........STP oil treatment as an oil additive..........Nox -Ice as gas line anti-freeze. Motor Oil was about 70 to 75 cents a quart!!!!!! The cheap non-detergent was Econo...35 cents a quart in a green cardboard can. Some were in metal quart cans, you had to puncture the can with the spout to pour it in the engine.
Great memories. I remember hand pumping oil out of a drum to fill quart glass bottles. Then twist on the red pointed spout/cap to pour a quart into the engine. It was one of the first jobs my dad gave me as a little kid. Thanks for reminding me. Good times.
Good times for sure.@@GaryHolt-t3s
Ok, why is this important....? Seems like a bunch of nonsense...
Very informative with easy to understand explanations, please keep these reviews going! 👍👍
Very nice video being a mechanical engineer working in rotating machinery for heavy API I really appreciate your approach and review of the data and the aspects you have shared and your experience.
Thanks!
I started out using Valvoline oil back in 1973. I first tried Mobil 1 in 1982 while living in the Denver, CO metro area. Switched to Penzoil 5w30 Euro L, in 2016 for my Ram Ecodiesel, but that got changed to Rotella T6 5w40. When I bought a 2020 Dodge Durango, I put Penzoil Platinum 0w20 for the first oil change. Then switched to Penzoil Ultra Platinum 0w40 after that. I drive predominantly highway miles on speed control. I had one oil change that I could not get the Ultra Platinum. And I could feel a difference. Back in August of 2023 I bought a Jeep JLU Sport S Altitude. The Jeep will get the Ultra Platinum 0w40 with its second oil change too.
Todays synthetics are impressive. My wife's 2018 Ram 2500 6.7L runs Rotella T6 5w40 all year round. And when the dealer mistakenly put 15w40 oil in instead of the 5w40 I requested. Even the tech noticed a change in the way the engine ran.
Run Penzoil Ultra Platinum for gasoline engines, and Rottella T6 for diesel. For the best costs to benefits.
Thanks for sharing
Dang.. so basically you tried them all...lol
Always use the viscosity recommended by the manufacturer. Using a higher viscosity can be detrimental to the engine due to lack of lubrication.
@@geojohnson5613not quite true, several vehicles sold in America call for one type of oil and the exact same vehicle in other countries call for a different oil in the same engine. A lot of it has to do with fuel mileage requirements. Research it yourself.
@@diegaspumper8501 I agree with you to a certain extent that it's also about trying to squeeze out that extra 1/2 mile to gallon of gas. I also know that the VVT system is complex and requires a lower viscosity oil. The camshaft solenoids have very fine screens that the oil must pass through to activate the cam phasers. Use the oil viscosity specified by the manufacturer and change it often.
I use amsoil SS in my 2UR-GSE but in all my other vehicles I use PUP, I've been very happy with it since I started using it.
Project farm got me on amsoil, have used it for 8 years and it’s ridiculous how well it protects
Lol that video is not 8 years old.
I tried PUP 5W-20 for the first oil change in my new 3.2L v6 2022 Cherokee. I noted a nearly immediate increase in my mileage. So far, it's jumped about 1.5 mpg. I believe I'm going to continue using PUP, in spite of the fact it's significantly more expensive than regular Platinum. And I'm going to switch to PUP for my 09 SRT8, too, even though it's only offered in single qts for the 0W-40.
Thanks for sharing
I am getting insane highway mileage with PUP in my ‘19 CX-5. The car is rated at 30mpg, but I’m getting an actual 39-40mpg.
Good luck finding it on shelf
@lotsofthisandthat9791 you're right about that. Not everyone carries it. I think the best deals on it are on-line.
Walmart has 5 qts for $32 and 1 qt for $8
So just recently iv becom a follower of Lake and some how this video was the first I stumbled upon. So forst thing first . I drive a 2016 f 150. I always used mobile 1 5w20 in it. And it was always noisy ALWAYS!!! I asked mechanics, I asked ford technicians, I asked ford corporate.they all said the same thing....."these trucks just have a little more engine noise than most others" to be clear what I was hearing sounded like a very soft valve tick. I mean from day 1- mile 0 this truck ticked very softly. Fast forward to present day (5-9-24) I switched to Pennzoil ultra platinum 5w20. And this motor is SIGNIFICANTLY quieter. Runs smoother (seemingly) . Im glad I switched.
Lake thank you for giving some indepth insight into the quality of oil and what makes it a good oil.
I went from Mobil 1 (which is great oil also) to Pennzoil Ultra Platinum in my Mustang and Pennzoil Platinum in my F-150.
In experimenting with different motor oils a few years ago, saw that with PUP on my '14 Accord, it's quieter right away. No more tick sounds (from the lifters I believe). A real audible difference. This was proof that PUP was doing something different. I've since switched to PUP on the newer ES exclusively. Only wish is that PUP was more readily available.
Thanks for sharing your experience!
What is ES , meaning?
@@themotoroilgeekhey there. Like your videos. Do you have any info on Kendall gt 1 max 0w20. Will be appreciated
PUP is sold at Advance Auto Parts
I have a Sentra I use as an around town gas saver, my G8 with a 6.8 stroker gets 8 mpg and we use my wife's ML350 Mercedes as a family trip car. I just got some of the ultra platinum on sale on Amazon in 0w40 and put it in the Sentra today; my results were exactly the same as yours. I've never run cheap oil in any of my cars, even the Nissan gets group 4 or 5 oil. The car has never been quieter right off the bat until today, it's always been a particularly noisy four cylinder. I swear by the Mobil 1 FS 0w40 Euro for the Mercedes, but I just went back and ordered another pack of the Pennzoil for it as well just to see how it does with that motor.
used the ultra on my wrx for 3 years no issue, great fuel mileage. got an sti in july, drained whatever was in there after 1000 miles. put the ultra in and instantly gained 4-5 mpg. this oil is magic
It would have to be for $ 65 a jug.
Just bought four 5 liter jugs of Pennzoil Ultra Platinum @ $28.99 CDN including a $10 rebate ($21.20 USD)@@hotrodray6802
@@hotrodray6802?
I get mine for 33 5 qts, amazon
Bullshit
Good to know
Yes in Project Farm's test Pennz Ultra Platinum was only beat by Amsoil signature series. What I would like to see though is a wear test between all 3 Amsoil grades(Sig Series vs XL boosted vs OE) to see if a lower one can match the SS on the wear tests. That would be very helpful.
OE isn’t even better than Supertech honestly
@@alejandrotobienne8220 I don't think you can say that confidently. I doubt supertech is that great as I've heard some horror stories from people using it but I've also heard some good info on it too.
I agree. The Signature Series used to be the only of those three oils which advertised being 100% synthetic on the bottle, which lead a lot of people to believe that it was a "real" group 4 PAO based synthetic while their OE and XL oils were made from group 3 base stocks. Now all three of those oils claim to be 100% synthetic, so it's unclear what changed, if anything. My guess is they probably just started marketing group 3 oils as "100% synthetic" instead of "full synthetic" like they used to, but I could be wrong.
Now they have Amsoil Signature Series, Extended-life, OE, High-mileage, and Hybrid Full Synthetics. I would like to test all FIVE and have the results side by side. I believe they reformulated when they changed the oil filters. Fram Endurance filters and Amsoil filters are identical from Champion labs.
@@Balticblue93 Good point, I didn't know they came out with hybrid or high mileage oils. If we want to get technical, they also have Premium Protection, Z Rod, Dominator racing oil, small engine oils, motorcycle oils, marine oils, diesel oils, and quite possibly others that I'm forgetting about.
I used Pennzoil Ultra Platinum in my 2023 Corolla GR (G16e-GTS turbo engine) performance car since the first oil change. I have 16k miles and change oil every 2500 miles (6 oil changes so far). It awesome oil as you suggested it is.
Pennzoil used to be available in my country but not anymore. I’m in South Africa, i have been using Total Quartz Ineo MC3 5W30 fully synthetic on my cars for the last 10 years. It’s been an amazing oil and each of the cars have more than 150 000 miles. One of them a Hyundai i10 1.25 petrol never need any oil top ups during service intervals, in fact it doesn’t use any oil at all, it’s always on the same mark on the dipstick all the time. Please do a test on this oil. Bang for bucks it’s a great oil!
Thanks for the suggestion!
Keep these coming Lake! Educating the masses one killer video at a time!
Thanks. These are fun!
@@themotoroilgeek is there a problem using ultra platinum in a Chevy even tho it’s not Dexos certified? Or should I stay with platinum? This keeps me up at night! I see how good ultra is so I have been running it. Or is there something I’m missing? I’d appreciate your input.
@@johndyc3047 No problem at all. The Ultra Platinum is sufficient for your Chevy.
Thanks Lake for this video and sharing your findings. The 5w40 spec oil used in some Porsches will require the Euro Platinum oil. On Pennzoil’s own website it does not state that the Euro Platinum has the “extreme performance” indicated for the Ultra Platinum oils. The Euro oil has the Porsche A40 specification which likely means it has a different additive package and sadly missing the molybdenum. It would be interesting to do a VOA on the Euro oil.
My Porsche is not stock, so I’m not worried about the A40 spec.
Nice Lake! I bet you have thin rings, gapless and gas ported, from Total Seal! 😀
@@themotoroilgeek If your Porsche was stock, let's say a m96 or m97 or Macan, etc, would you still use this or would you use an A40 oil?
@@thomasloper1205 I can't say right now as I've not had the chance to test the Pennzoil Platinum in my Porsche yet.
@@themotoroilgeek I was planning to run this in my Macan S with 135k miles instead of mobil 1 because of another video you did. Maybe I’ll wait until you have more data.
They already had me as a customer after making the viper commercial but after researching their products and watching this it makes sense why I’ve been so happy using their oil in my car the last 5 years. They are top of the line
If you’re reading this and drive an air cooled VW or Porsche especially with a big motor like me and you’re wondering about this oil, I’ve been using it for years and absolutely love it. I use the ultra synthetic platinum 5W-30 and I also add a bottle of Rislone ZDDP synthetic additive and it works flawlessly. Hope this helped any air cold heads out there!
Ultra Platinum made my engine noticeably quieter, smoother sounding. Also, Ultra platinum is DEXOS approved according to the official info, But doesn't say it on the front of the bottle like the Penn Platinum label does.
@alexanderkennedy2969shell helix ultra 5w40 is Ferrari, BMW, Mercedes Benz, Volkswagen, PSA stellantis, Porsche approved. Nuff said
Where have you seen that it is DEXOS approved?
If it was DEXOS it would have the label on the front of the bottle. Oil companies don’t pay to license their oil only to hide it
great video! I think the PUP is a great oil and value. I use the 0W-40 in all my Gen 3 Hemi SRT vehicles and has been flawless. Would love to see how the additive package compares to the 5W-30s.
I would expect them to be the same.
@@themotoroilgeek it’s actually not! You may want to take a look. They were formulated specifically for SRT. You’ll see higher everything overall. I saw a couple VOAs where the moly and boron were even higher as well as calcium and magnesium etc. basically the PUP 5w30 except greater concentrations of add packs.
@@robertomorffi6856 interesting!
One thing I’ve noticed with PUP is a total lack of valve train noise, especially at start-up.
The 0w-40 might be more volitile due to the 0 rating
Going to do my first oil change on my 23 JL WRANGLER with a 5qu bottle of PUP at 1500 miles. A little overdue for my First Oil change but definitely better than a first at 5000
Right on!
Ran Pennzoil in a Suzuki 1100 that had piston slap in the 1980s .. after 100ks .. no more piston slap ..
bloody good oil mate.
I've used Pennzoil Ultra Platinum oil for quite a while now. Change my oil every 7,500 km, same amount of oil comes out as I put in. Never had any issues, vehicle runs smoothly.
Lake, great informative video. As others below have mentioned, Project Farm YT channel did a great oil smackdown a year or so ago and Pennzoil Ultra Platinum came in the top 3. Price per protection I would have to say it's the best-bang-for-buck oil.
Doug, thanks for the comment. I keep hearing a lot of comments about the Project Farm tests.
My Silverado used to burn a little bit of oil ever since I started using ultra platinum I haven’t seen it burn anything. This stuff is the real deal.
Thanks for sharing!
Great show. Love it. I ordered my ultra Penzoil Platinum from USA to Australia for my Kia Rio DGI direct gasoline injection, straight into the chamber. My 1.6lt kio has done 150 thousand klm. Its been suffering at low rev's engine pinging- i have always been usiing 95% or 98% octane fuel. Best fuel i can buy. I have changed my oil every 5klm. I have unfortunately have more pinging with Shell fuel. My economy is little better nothing to brag about. I will keep you in touch with updates, because i put it into my neq Piaggio vespa Medley . Seems to love it.
Just buy Shell Helix Ultra from Repco/supercheap etc - it’s the same oil ;)
Shell purchased the Pennzoil brand name years ago to sell Shell oils in the US.
I've been using this in my 2007 FJ Cruiser (Platinum Ultra) and occasionally Platinum since I bought it with 23k on the clock. At 200k now and the engine is still like new. I use Purolator Boss filter, and change ~5000 miles.
Never done an UOA on it, but I feel confident that she's doing well with this combo.
Amazing channel. I've been an oil geek since high school and ARCO Graphite in my '69 Z/28. Looking back, not a great idea, and it was a helluva mess to clean!
Excellent video and explanation! I just bought the Ultra Platinum for my 2024 Silverado with the 5.3L V8. Really want to make sure this thing is well protected.
From Leo: I believe you have done a great presentation and very sound science. In my life experience, my work had a high degree of travel, like 40K miles a year. 8 cylinder, 6 cylinder and 4 cylinder domestic cars, generally kept them over 4 years. I always started thinking about oil changes at about 3500 to 4000 miles, used whatever brand name dino oil and filter that the convenient oil change place sold. I never had a lubrication failure in anything, clear back to antiquated SE and SF rated oils. We have all these advances, yet valve gear and cam failure is at an all time high even in well maintained cars. Maybe the old zinc cam additives were a lot better than we gave credit.
Thanks for sharing! The higher ZDDP oil with lower detergent levels did a great job with valve train protection. Plus the highway miles are actually easier on the oil, so you regular oil changes also helped. You did well!
During the 70’s, 80’s and early 90’s I was a traveling auto parts salesman and around a lot of engine tear downs. Some of the nastiest then had been using Pennzoil, Quaker State and Gulf oil all of which I was told were paraffin based oils. I presumed they have gotten away from that. Some of the cleanest tear downs were with Valvoline and Havoline. All of these oils were with regular oil changes of 2500 miles which was the general recommended at that time.
Thanks for sharing. The base oils have come along way since then. These new GTL base oils are a completely new breed.
I am old enough to remember when a lot of people steered clear of oils based on Pennsylvania crude due to the high wax (paraffin) content. No idea if that is valid now or even valid then but your anecdotal evidence of the engine tear downs seems to indicate it was.
A lot of people saying Pennzoil as a whole is junk are probably either old enough to remember when it wasn't all that great or they're just regurgitating info from people who are behind the times. I'm in my early 40's and remember in the early 2000's the LS in my Silverado starting to knock after about 2000 miles using conventional Pennzoil and Quaker State but never had a problem with Castrol GTX. To be clear, I was burning rubber everywhere I went and was really hard on my oil. I still won't run Pennzoil conventional but tests have shown their Ultra Platinum is about as good as it gets as a daily driver oil. My HEMI seems to be happy with Ultra Platinum.
@@chrisprieur270you also chose a Chrysler truck, so your opinion on oils can’t be much better
@@pillcosby3949 You know what they say about opinions. We all have them and they all stink. Yours and mine are no exception.
Since the ultra platinum seems to have more detergent additives, I was curious if you could do a comparison with the major synthetic blend oils out there to see who had the best detergents.
you can do your own research- just drive 100,000 miles on each sample and get back to us in 20 years....
@@tommurphy4307 gee, thanks.....
Royal Purple has a great detergent package. It will clean even the dirtiest of motors with several changes. The downside of that is obviously the price. It's quite a bit more expensive than the others.
Search youtube for Amsoil or Pennzoil, which wins Championship? Let's find out! by Projectfarms. He has oil analysis on most oils. I prefer higher antiwear additives for the summer heat.
Yes, there IS a difference! Project Farm proved it years ago! BTW, I don't know about where you live, but down at Puerto Rico, the Ultra Platinum is extremely difficult to get; it's very scarce! Pennzoil should just drop the regular Platinum!!!
It’s online order here as well.
Cool ! Thanks for making this video, I wasn't even aware that there was an 'Ultra' Platinum version of the Pennzoil oil.
Been using it in my vehicles for 2 years now, project farm
Convinced me. I use Amsoil in my Dirtbike, just can’t afford it for the truck, this tested damn close to the Amsoil.
Thanks for sharing!
What an awesome and thorough video brother, thank you
Thank you!
Beautiful, thank you, ...I was always curious about the difference between these two oils. I have a turbo engine and like the Pennzoil GTL purebase oils.
Thank you!
I run Penn 10w30 full syn high mileage on my 97 LeSabre, and I put 3k miles on it every month. So far so good. These 3800s just keep going.
Thanks for sharing
This is the most important video of 2023, and possibly the 21st century.
Thanks for these new videos you are putting out. Please keep them!
Glad you like them!
You continue to teach me truths concerning motor oils. Thank you! You explain the technical at a 6th grade level. You are a great teacher. For the second time. Thank you!
Sometimes I wonder about which oil to use in my 15-20 year old Toyotas and Lexuses? Are the SP oils ok to use?
Wow, thank you!
Yes, it's perfectly fine to use an API SP certified engine oil in your 15-20 year old Toyota and Lexus vehicles.
I use the Pennzoil Platinum in my 2012 Mustang V-6, bought used in 2016 with low mileage. Take the guesswork out of the your oil's effectiveness. When I first got the car, i started on the Pennzoil. Then for the next couple oil changes, I had a sample sent to Blackstone. They were able to tell me the oil still had plenty of life left, and was low on contaminants. So I eventually stretched my change interval to 8000 miles. At that interval, oil was still good and low on contaminants. I elected to stop there, since I don't drive the car all that much, and 8000 miles takes me about a year. So I would want to change it then anyway just based on time.
So what about the Ultra Platinum? Based on my experience and the measured results I received from Blackstone, I don't believe the extra cost and protection is warranted in my *particular* situation. Perhaps if I drove more or harder, the step-up might be justified. But that's my point: don't guess, measure and go from there.
Measuring is the key. I agree, there is no need for guesswork.
I can sit and listen to this channel all day.
I'm going to get a jug of this in 5w20 for me 2003 accord and in 0w20 for my 2013 accord v6. See what happens
Cant say enough good things about PUP...my SUV gas mileage went up to 32mog after switching from Mobil 1 a couple years back, oil analysis indicates a solid 10k lifespan in my SUV (I don't go that long), and a quick look at my valve train using a scope inside my oil cap shows little to no deposits at 97,500 miles.
Awesome video and thank you for making it. I would also love to hear your thoughts and analysis on Valvoline Advanced and their high mileage max life stuff.
You can count me in on this.
Lake, after seeing the episode of Lubrication Explained you were in, I have some confusion on oxidation value as it related to DI engines. In that discussion, it was noted that a more robust additive package was not necessarily a good thing in all cases for DI engines. Might be a good subject for clarification... at least for me! Love these presentations!
Thanks for the question. Hopefully this can clear things up.
More “Robust” is code for a higher level of all additives, especially calcium based detergents. The high level of Calcium detergent (over 2,500 ppm) the problem for DI engines. It seems that 1,500 ppm or lower on Calcium, LSPI is not a problem, which is why both of these oils are good for DI engines.
@@themotoroilgeek Got it, thanks. Went back and reviewed the Lubrication Explained vid and with your explanation, now I am totally clear.
@@themotoroilgeek Is it ONLY the calcium levels which adversely effect the GTDI engines, or do any of the other (boron, magnesium, manganese, titanium, etc.) detergents/dispersants also potentially cause harm?
Does the calcium also work against any anti-foaming agents added to modern oils as well (or overwhelm them in high PPM concentrations)??
@@nofascistsonmywatch Calcium and Sodium increase LSPI tendency while ZDDP and Molybdenum reduce LSPI tendency.
Foaming is a whole other thing…
Shell, that owns Pennzoil, was originally planning to refine oil from natural gas in the US, but then decided it would be more economical to just keep refining it in Qatar. Quaker State synthetic oil is not supposed to be from natural gas, but now, some weights of Quaker State synthetic oil are, but with pre canned, cheaper additive packages.
I was an avid Mobil 1 user for 20 years. I switched to Pennzoil over a decade ago with no regrets. In early 2016, I bought a leftover 2015 Sonata 2.0T. I didn't know about the Theta II engine issues when I bought it but I treated it like every new vehicle I buy. First oil change at 1000 mi with Pennzoil Platinum 5W30. Second oil change at 3500 with the same. Third oil change at 8,000 mi but switched to 5W40. I noticed through burn off and other direct injected engine abuse, I lost about a half a quart between 5,000 mi services. I switched to 0w40 Ultra Platinum at around 15,000 mi because I read it had a better burn-off rate and there was no 5W40 Ultra Platinum. The oil loss dropped to maybe a half a cup of oil between 5,000 mi services. The valve cover gasket was being replaced at 80,000 mi under warranty. I asked my service guy if I could go out and take a look at the top end while he had the valve cover off just to see if what I was doing was worthwhile. If I could post a picture here I would. The engine was immaculate. No varnish anywhere. No discoloration. It looked brand new. It was running beautifully at 100,000 miles when it was totaled thanks to a 12R24.5 truck tire lol.
If you're still monitoring this comment, I sincerely want to know, why did you choose a Hyundai over say, a used Camry or Honda Accord? What about this car did you like vs the Japanese cars and what was the deciding factor? And would you buy it again?
@@robertmaybeth3434
I'm 6ft2, 205lbs, and have nerve damage in my legs and feet from cancer nearly taking me out. So legroom and seat comfort are paramount to me. Comfort is of course subjective, but the seats in neither the Camry or Accord in any trim level was comfortable enough for me.
I bought a 2008 Sonata on a whim just because I needed a commuter car. It was used and already had 30,000 mi. That was October of 2008. By December of 2012, it had over 170,000 mi on it and it never broke. So I went with the 2015 based on the reliability of the 2008, without knowing about the Theta II engine issues before I bought it. Served me well for the 100,000 mi I drove it before a truck tire took it out. I'm at almost 3.5 years and 52K on the 21 N Line and it has been just as reliable...
First time watcher. Love the episode and subscribed. Just a tip on editing, the music was a little loud and sometimes drowned out you talking. Keep it up. Thanks for the content.
Thanks for watching!
Hey Lake! Awesome video as usual. Now compare Amsoil Signature Series 5w30 VS. Pennzoil Ultra Platinum 5w30. Thanks man!
Project Farms did it and Amsoil barely squeaked by Penzoil Ultra Platinum. I would just stick with Penzoil to save the money. Its almost half of what Amsoil is and provides almost identical protection.
@@bearing_aficionadoAmsoil did better in the wear test, which is probably the most important test.
@@darrylsjodin7184
And cold flow.
Even though they already went head to head, I just want to see what SPEEDiagnostix finds in Amsoils virgin sample compared to Blackstone that Project Farm uses for the learning experience. They may do tests a little different than Blackstone does.
@@thomasseigfriedjr.9198 Yes, I would like to see that too!😀
I hope you can find the Ultra Platinum, Lake. I haven't been able to find any, except for the people who want $97.00/Gal for it.
If you’re talking about Walmart/Amazon those are resellers marking it up when Walmart and Amazon are out of stock.
Walmart sells Ultra Platinum for $32 for 5 quart jug.
Pretty easily to obtain normally
@@BC08 yeah there's never any on the shelf here at our Walmart. The parts stores are ridiculous and 46 to $55 for a 5 quart jug
@@TheLonesometoad Yeah, I’m talking about ordering off the internet.
Walmart will ship to your house.
Looking for Ultra Platinum on the shelf is almost impossible.
Walmart online
YIKES! That makes my fave, Ravenol DXG @ $75.00 shipped for a 5 liter jug seem downright cheap!!
API, SAE standards are just that. However with the increase cost of vehicles, fuel and oil competition, its great to see which companies are producing top tier oils that ARE the best in this arena. Just meeting a standard is the minimum to produce and sell. Today , the shear properties and additives are terrific. Thank you for the content.
Boron nitride is a very effective extreem pressure additive. Has been used in steam locomotives since the 1850's. I used boron to lubricate automatic welding heads. Boron on the fingers feels a bit like fine locksmith graphite.
Hexagonal boron nitride actually has a chemical structure that is very similar to graphite, so they have similar properties. The boron nitride has a major advantage of not being combustible or electrically conductive.
Did you know you can buy solid sticks of the stuff? Hugely expensive, but if you need to make a low friction bushing that can survive inside a furnace I guess there aren't many alternatives.
Will be running this in my GM, even though is not dexos approved. Thank you.
Ultra is I believe
I run it in my 2019 ram 5.7. I change it every 4000 kilometers and hope to keep the dreaded hemi lifter failure away... good video, cheers
Thanks!
I remember when Royal purple came out, they claimed a 10 hp increase if you switched out all your fluids to theirs. Think it was horse power tv, did it and it did make more hp, but did dyno number’s get fudged to make them look good, seeing that they were a sponsor of the show.
Their control was probably a thick 30w oil vs thinner synthetic that didn’t rob the engine of hp from working through thicker oils.
I don't know about RP. If it's a good true synthetic base and not a gtl group III & conventional petroleum mishmash I'd say sure it's possible. I have heard some folks say they have actually seen some fuel mileage improvements using the AMSOIL Signature Series oils. So there's that.
@@FishFind3000 yeah but straight 30, 10w30, 5W30 and even 0W30 are all supposed to be thirty W at operating temperature. So what would be the difference other than their low temp viscosities being different. Surely they wouldn't do a Dyno pull with a cold engine huh?
LOL! If you believe that, I have a nice bridge for sale.
It’s was only like 10 hp, for all the fluids, trans, diff, and oil.
Id like to see some Amsoil breakdowns between their OE, XL and Signature.
That could be interesting!
I use this in my daughter’s 2014 Chevy Cruze Diesel. Seems to be doing it’s job.
Project farm won me over to Pennzoil ultra platinum. It is the best product for the money. Its almost as good as amsoil and half the price.
I have nothing but good results using Pennzoil for 40;years.
that’s good to hear
Back in the 70s, they had a bad detergent package, clearly that's changed.
Looking forward for the follow up of using the Ultra platinum in the Porsche.
Your videos are great. I've been using PUP and PP for a long time. I'd be curious to see your interpretation on these vs the Valvoline Premium Full Syn Extended and Premium Extended High Mileage. There has been a lot of talk on these oils on BITOG.
Also, the Mobil One Advanced vs. Extended version - Thank you!
Great suggestion!
Compare to valvoline for sure ......nice add pack on the valvoline high mileage
We had a 05 gmc 1500 in our work truck fleet , when we sold it there was 490000 km on it . Engine never touched except a water pump and a starter . It was a 5.3. It only had ultra platinum pennzoil from day one
I have been here watching your videos So firstly I'd like to say thank you for sharing this knowledge its been helpful in me deciding on what oil to buy for my next oil change......Thanks from Canada
On my hemi Ram I use ultra platinum and add about 8oz liquimoly with wix filters. No lifter/valve tick.
Ive used Mobile 1 and Castrol on my Lexus LS430. And Penzoil has been the best. Cars smoother and quicker. Good video.