Energy density of CATL's Shenxing battery revealed for Tesla Model Y Juniper
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- Energy density of CATL's Shenxing battery revealed for Tesla Model Y Juniper
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Usually not a huge Chi fan, but CATL and BYD are on a level of their own and perhaps two of the most important companies in the world. Wow.
You are slowly waking up from the mass propaganda. China bad, China copies everything, china can't innovate because communism.
GM has licence to build Shenxing batteries is US. this will be more than huge for GM in the coming years.
Best battery pack ever released by any company period,LFP battery packs have much longer battery life compared with traditional NCM ternary battery cells,almost double of what ternary NCM pack has to offer in terms of battery life and degradation rate, almost like an internal combustion engine car,and they are really much safer,what always had hold back LFP battery was 150 to 160 wh/kg in pack level energy density, shenxing plus has changed the game for ever with 205 wh/kg in pack level energy density,it is by far highest ever in the industry, it does even surpass 95% of traditional ternary packs in the market,very very well done CATL,you have done an amazing job for humanity and ev transportation industry,ev makers should appreciate your amazing hard work in development of the best battery pack ever
Agreed. This is really a big deal and can be a game changer if the claim holds.
Has there been a failure with Tesla Model 3 LFP in high miles > 300k driving scenario?
You forgot fast charging 4C. In second place will be Greely Golden Battery and third place BYD Blade battery 2.0. The next big thing will be the semi solid sodium batteries
The pace of battery development is exciting and will only accelerate the shift away from fossil fuels. My 5 year old Kia e-Niro (64 kWh NMC) only has a pack level density of 147 Wh/kg, now we have LFP packs higher than that while the latest NMC batteries are reaching 250 Wh/kg. For sure LFP promises a longer life but to all intents and purposes this is meaningless as we already have NMC powered EVs with over 400,000 km on the clock and only 10%-15% range loss. Mine has just gone over the 100,000 km and hasn't even used up the 3.5 kWh of 'buffer' yet. There must be battery degradation but I am seeing no loss of range. LFP packs may well be capable of reaching a million km or more but few cars will last that long and even fewer drivers will need that capability.
@@rwyo83 i think the next big thing will be the semi solid condensed zero degradation LFP with 450 wh/kg in cell level energy density which will last 2000 cycles of discharging with only 5% capacity loss according to CATL data about zero degradation technology,ev industry wont need any better cells for the next 25 years,it will be the real deal,just imagine 100 kwh battery pack with 400 wh/kg system energy density,it would have 600 miles of range easily,it will weigh 250 kg in total,battery pack will last 1.8 million km(1.2 million miles) with 95% of it's capacity left because of zero deg technology,and 5C charging speed,just imagine that amazing battery pack,the world will never be the same after the day this amazing game changing battery pack will reveal for ever
Just keeps getting better every bloody day
They even improve on normal days as well 😂😂
@@davidfujkk8018 CCP is investing everything they have into EVs and batteries, just like previously with solar panels, phone manufacturing and real estate construction. Tesla needs to continue to make its own batteries because of the US incentives and to prevent CATL gaining pricing power over Tesla.
At this rate in a couple of decades we will have batteries the size of one on an electric drill that can run your house!
No telling how long an iphone will be able to run on a charge. Months? Years?
Another great light show. The Portuguese one was flipping amazing Simon. Excellent.
Battery technology increases are rapid. The current ones are amazing so it will be interesting to see them improve. More range and efficient, higher density and safer.
I predicted 3 new batteries per year for the next decade and it's on track. Not all of them will be for cars but 3 per year.
Your info is on point always since i been listening to you for two now !!!!!
Actually Doug, Sam’s data is incorrect far too often and he never responds if you query his numbers. His Australian statistics are terrible and often completely out of line with independent NRMA research data. I just watch him now and again for entertainment, you shouldn’t take this channel too seriously.
@@vulgarvolga7335 I agree, however! like all TH-cam channels you have to take the bits that you think are useful and dump the rest. He does spend a lot of time going through all the stuff that is coming out each day, it does save me a lot of time by checking out his channel, and others, so I can Keep up, and keep balanced.
Good morning, Sam. Thanks for helping me start my day today in Saint Lucia.
Hey Sam, congrats on 208, 000 subs.
Thanks so much
“THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING” part 562 😂
And this steady progress is having many fruits, Germany passed a major renewable bill. Day by day.
But yeah, this battery exist🙃
To be fair it is more like 4 different things that gets updated with each step closer to final product...
But we’re still here coz some people just gets excited by the clickbait “
Everything has changed superted ;)
They should make extra tiers of Tesla, there should be a Tesla with 500 mile range on offer. I think it will be popular with a segment of people, eg uber drivers, and people who frequently make long trips.
Always take a look at volt and amperes when speaking of charging speed, very fast charging will heat up the cable and everithing in the "charging chain" , maby you can do a very fast charging, then let the charger cool off. The load will be massive, so I think you came to a point where the load is to much.
One good thing is, doing the car lighter, the battery smaller, and therefor faster to charge
Awesome announcement. Looking forward to independent testing in vehicles by consumers. We have already had too many "over estimates" by auto manufacturing.
I always think, dude your way too positive about renewables, but often, very often u seem to be right, that's why I keep watching u thanks for the keeping the positive side up , thank u sam
EVs are a separate issue from renewables really.
You can have 100% EV fleet with a nuclear/coal power mix if the EVs are good enough to convince everyone to switch over. Doesn't have to be about "the environment".
Long term I hope we tear down all the windmills and run on a nuclear/hydro/solar mix.
@@Chris-gs7cq yes chris bla bla bla i have 4 extra solar panels on my roof the make enough for me to drive my model 3 i do the best i can u probably are allot better , only question u have to ask urdelf asfar as i know , im i a part of the problem ore the solution ???
@@Chris-gs7cq you like paying over the odds for electric? nothing is cheaper than solar and nuclear needs subsidies and is still very expensive. most countries can't do hydro.
It's nice to hear that batteries continue to improve but the article has opposing "facts". At one point it states a car (with this battery) will have a 1000 km range and at another it states that a Model Y could improve as much as 15%. Given the Model Y range would be 613 km WLTP with that statistic (which is great, but not 1000 km), the article leaves a lot to be desired. Click bait is one thing but it would be great if we could actually get some reliable information on an EV based channel. I'm still waiting for my 500 mile (≈ 800 km) BEV to be completely happy about BEV range. This would generally provide 400 miles (670 km) range under bad weather conditions. That said, I'm still delighted with my Model Y and what it gives me compared to ICE.
Why are commentators, incl Sam, saying a battery has X miles of range? A battery doesn't have any 'range', it contains an amount of energy. Range only becomes a thing when those batteries are put in a car (and then it matters how many batteries and what car).
Because most Tesla YT like Sam have not the slightest ideas of engineering or physics. Zero, nada, nothing, zilch.
Yep - good point. I mentally use 5km per KWH so when he says a 1,000km range I think a 200KWH battery. However that's just an internal estimate to deal with people describing a battery as having a range, which they shouldn't do.
PS Another that annoys me is XYZ will supply 200,000 homes rather than give the MW Capacity. Its as if the public can't cope with MW's.
They’re trying to make it relatable to non-scientific thinkers. It’s not wrong on its own part. Your objection would be null if they’d just include a proper caveat like, “In a typical sedan, using this battery would result…” I agree that they should do at least that, but using a practical example is very useful for communicating with the masses.
The range is in reference to the model Y. To show the improvement range is easy to understand, if you would say: model Y Long Range AWD with a battery capacity of 81 kWh gives a range of 531 km, now with the same size of battery and same model y the range is 1000 Km ... This would be better, but you would have lost your audience before the end of the sentence ...
Because Sam doesn't understand what he is talking about.
Greeting for Brooklyn NY
Any news about actual model juniper? When is it going to be released?
Afternoon mate
I think current model Y range when new for standard model with CATL LFP battery is 410km. I dont know for sure but the same battery in my Highland model 3 is 438km.
The new battery has 1000 434 km range and will increase range of model Y by 15%
Hang on there shich is it 410km increased 15% isnt 1000km. Its more like 485km.
I am expecting the new battery in model 3, when I sit in that car at the dealer to read on the display 500km. Lets see how close I am to that.
There seems to be 2 next version batteries from CATL, the Shenxing battery explained here and the M3P battery that gets just as much press and similar advantages except the Shenxing battery is faster charging but the M3P has better energy density. Apparently Tesla are going to use both batteries.
CATL just launched ShenxingPlus. 1,000 km range. 10 minutes charge 600 km range.
Bullshit.
I thought Sam had fallen asleep. The Viking needs sleep, he’s up all night churning out these videos. But he’s woken up and yes…. He’s announced yet another “game changing” battery (the crowd roars). That’s three so far this week, but there’s one day left so let’s go for even numbers, a fourth announcement tomorrow.
Catl doc says 205kw/kg.
imperial units ? why because
If CATL bring to market the STEP CHANGE 1.5 Million Kilometre battery pack ( Warrantied ) then we all _WIN_
The supply to other auto makers as well!
Which ones?
Good stuff, I was wondering if anyone was going to mention this breakthrough
If we get to 500 miles, that will finally shut up everyone that says they dont go too far
Nope, smh ive seen it since 2013 when i first rode in a model S. Ev haters said we need 150 miles to switch.
Then around 2015 it was 150+, around 2018 it was give me 200 miles, then around 2020 it was we need 250+ to switch.
Then last year the average none ev driving gashole mouth breather claimed they need 300+miles to switch over. 😑
Now that we have up to 500 mile evs? It's we need 500+miles in all conditions year round and tow for 250+miles in an ev truck.
When ice loses 15-25% range in the winter per the epa, and from owning trucks when I'm towing I lose 30-60& range.
Meanwhile the average us daily commute is still just under 37 total miles. And then they blather about those poor poor apt and condo dwellers who don't even buy new cars.
As 85% of 2023 us new car buyers were homeowners with six figure household incomes and financed the majority of the principle amount for their vehicle purchase of choice. So they have a reserved parking spot and reliable electricity to charge an ev up with. 😂
I think 400 miles suffice. Most ICE cars have a range of slightly higher than 400 miles.
@@dhui777 Mine does 730, 1.6 diesel
@@4literv6 150 miles? 250 miles? Yeah okay. You know what's holding EVs back? take a closer look at that second paragraph you wrote please. You did the same thing with the Prius and set hybrids back over 20 years.
If something has to be shoved down my throat, it's probably not better. Look at CFL lightbulbs, that's a great example of how that works out.
@@anglosaxonmike8325 most ICE cars are not diesel. 😄 Diesel is bad for environment.
When will CATL release their Sodium ion battery for Grid storage ?
Tech is not ready yet. Cost is not much lower than LFP without the long life of LFP.
Never, a fairy story for children.
Honeycomb shape = Graphene?
would love this battery in a cyber truck
When they go to the showroom, sales will show you the beautiful shiny new battery - between the brittle castings ...........and not to forget the cost reductions via the stripped out interior. A car for recycling.
👍👍
I don't see how it will improve range if it still doesn't match Nickel Cobalt density.
NCM from Panasonic is still 270 kw/per kilogram. (Sorry I meant watts per kilogram)
If the cells are cheaper, more cells can be put in the car for the same total cost
My guess it's due to packaging. Anyway, imo, range its becomming irrelevant nowdays. Personally i rather have faster charging, longer longevity and less cost.
Did you mean 270Wh? Your "270 kw/per kilogram" is totally wrong.
1. it's W, not w
2. It's kWh, not kw
3. It's not 270kWh/kg but 270Wh/kg
4. It's "270kWh/kg" or "270kWh per kilogram"
You are welcome
@@laurap3244 Thereby taking up more room and adding more weight !
With a battery of 205Wh per kg and a highway speed of 70-80mph, each kilo adds about 0.7 miles of range
A kilo of diesel gets you 10 miles
Yes not sure how to make sense of this announcement, given that aspect. Perhaps they are putting in bigger batteries nowadays.
They could probably reduce the battery size to get the same range and gain greater operating efficiency.
That makes no sense. Range goes down with battery size.
@@michaelnurse9089 If the energy density is increased, a smaller battery with the same kwh will weigh less, so the car will use less energy to go the same distance.
Not 10 minutes home charging , it’s only at a Tesla charger station ?
So Give it a year, And time to buy your first "New" Tesla
CATL and byd are today as Apple and Microsoft Were for computer industry in 90'.
Or you use this in your products, or you going to have problems in the future.
what is the power density per KW? please give number
Do you mean power density per kg?
205 watts per kilogram is what the video states.
Read the transcript if you missed it in the talk.
@@briankearn6991 thanks. 205 seams not too high. Ionic 5 uses SK ncma battery with 305 per KG. He made it look like its revolutionary breakthrough but it wasnt
@@TomTomdog
Kilowatt hours per kilogram is energy density is variable dependent on voltage.
Google the formula.
It determines how much energy is released and how much range a car will have.
Maybe Tesla offers a 600mile range vehicle. However, I believe they will continue to offer a 300 mile version that will be lighter weight and cheaper (smaller battery). This is what I believe they need to make EV's more compelling to a larger market. One of the knocks here in the US is the weight and how EV's eat tires.
I have an ev and it does not eat tyres as long as you drive in a steady manner. The problem is that because they are so responsive, it is irresistible! My ev is not heavy compared to my old Territory, so if you want to go big (and heavy) you have to pay the price.
What news from Amprius technology $ampx
Its energy density is 205 wh/kg. How does that compare with rival tech?
2025 taycan has ternary chem with 170 wh/kh in pack energy density,tesla model s plaid has 181 wh/kg in pack level with ternary,BYD gen 2 LFP blade batteey pack has 190 wh/kg,lucid sapphire has 175 wh/kg ternary pack,this new shenxing plus has higher energy density than 95% of available ternary packs in the market yet it does have LFP chemistery,
@@davidfujkk8018 Thank you.
@davidfujkk8018
Wait a minute, are we talking watts/kg at the cell level or the pac level?
205 w/kg at the cell level might be good for LFP bit dome Tesla cells are kinda the benchmark in the 270 w/kg range.
Given thr promise of 300+ to 450 watts/kg from the various Solid State Battery players, you can see that if one or more cam mske their tech work it is the game changer.
I'm flummoxed Tesla is not going full throttle w/ Sil 5:57 a technologies Silicone drop in Anode for a 20% gain & weight reduction, etc that can be adopted to their existing cells.
Oops Sila Technologies...
@@anthonyliberatore1036 shenxing plus has 260 wh/kg cells and 205 wh/kg in pack level energy density
This will be great when it comes out, if it comes out. still think it will be at least 2 or 3 more years before we get to 500 miles on a full charge which means at 80% we should get around 400. If the replacement battery costs less than $10,000 (approx £8,000) I think more people will change over to ev's. At the moment most ev's will go roughly between 3 and 4 miles per Kwh (depending on driving conditions and road) so to get 500 miles mile from a 75Kwh hour usable battery (Tesal Model Y battery size) you are looking at around 6.6 miles per Kwh, that's a big jump, around 150 wh/m (I think, although I may have my maths wrong). Hope it happens. Unfortunatley at my age I will probably be dead or at least not driving any more when this happens. Time will tell though. Exciting times could be ahead for ev's.
I doubt it will but wish they make their way into tesla long range models.
Tesla announcements today of long range model Y for the European market probably uses this battery!
Always wanted LFP in my Tesla, hope we can see them soon and maybe even in CyberTruck!
now range will be 15000km with 75 chargings
Wish they would throw a case on a car size battery and sell it for home installation. They would sell like hotcakes.
Isn't this amazing charging performance depending on 800 Volt architecture (not in the Tesla model Y)?
I hope they were comparing on current model Y. I know Sam keeps thinking Juniper but it seems that getting new in between models are a higher priority. Just a guess. But end of year change to Juniper, might be possible.
Maybe the new in-between models will start right off with the 800 kw
Why don't you know which battery will be in the new model Y. Why speculate?
La La La . . .
Very nice coverage. Hit all the specifics and this looks to be in Tesla vehicles very soon. Hope they go with 15% range increase rather than dropping price further. That would put shortest range at 300 miles with LR at 350. So much for range anxiety.
Another video,another battery breakthrough!
What about the huge Model Y inventory? How is Tesla going to be able to handle Juniper transition and new CATL battery and huge inventory? Short term the stock could go up based on Elon's promises made at earnings call, but that will just be until practical ""details" like the ones above has to be managed. People are fully aware of these quantum leaps in battery technology going on, and no one likes to buy now and end up holding the bag. Significant improvements in range are not happening that often, so you will like to buy at the right moment.
I just my part to reduce inventory
@@muskepticsometimes9133 Model Y ? Which version?
@@curioussand1339 RWD
FFS energy density is not Watts per kg. Energy density is Watt HOURS per kg.
*Another video that is rubbish*
Watts per kg is power which is meaningless because it varies depending on the size of the pack in a car.
This is what people don’t always realise, Tesla price cuts still maintain their margin. Old legacy manufacturers never passed on savings to the customer yet Tesla do it all the time, they also raise prices when costs go up (or demand) it’s a brilliant model
Legacy car makers mainly sold cars below cost and made their profit on replacement parts.
"This is what people don’t always realise, Tesla price cuts still maintain their margin" - this is totally false, Tesla has seen their margins collapse.In fact in Q1, Tesla's margin were one of the lowest in the entire auto industry, almost half of what some of the other large OEMs were achieving
@@sdickinson5234 Nonsense, that is not true at all.
@@speedismyfriend obviously you’re not quite able to read actual financial statements, their gross margin was the greatest it has ever been and continues to improve, they are maintaining by far the highest gross margin in the automobile industry
@@user-fv9tw5fj9s I can't read financial statements? That is funny, did you even look at them? Tesla auto gross margin was 16.6%, a slight improvement from the 15.7%, but due to the release of FSD revenues. Underlying gross margin was down on last quarter. This is the lowest gross margin since 2017. So no, it wasn't the greatest it has ever been, it was the worst for 7 years and no it doesn't continue to improve, quite the opposite it has been going down since 2020. Now versus the industry, Tesal should have a margin at least 5% higher than anyone else as they capture the retail margin which for legacy players goes to the dealer. But lets just ignore the fact it needs to be 5% higher and look at gross margins for last year - Merc 22.4%, BMW 19.1%, Porsche 28.6%, Stellantis 20.4%, Toyota 19.7%, Renault 20.9%, Volvo 19.4% VW 18.9% - so Teslas gross margins are not industry leading even ignoring that they should be 5% higher
So you made three assertions and got all three wrong. Tesla has had to slash margins just to keep its Berlin and Austin factories running at 40% of design capacity..
But I was talking about operating margins anyway, where its operating margin hit 5.5% last quarter compared to last data for Toyota 7.3%, BMW 11.9%, Merc 12.8%, Stellantis 12.6%, Porsche 18.0%, VW 7.0%
In short, it offers 205wh/kg (see 3:05). That's not great, but the battery is quick to charge and relatively cheap.
He says Watts/kg not Wh/kg, he is useless. Can't take anything he says as correct.
He says Watts/kg not Wh/kg, he is useless. Can't take anything he says as correct.
@@AORD72 I like the Viking but, yes, you do need to take what he says with a pinch of salt!
While US media and Traditional OEMs are attacking Tesla and BEV China is making better and better BEV and especially batteries.
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More and more from less and less. Is there no end to battery technology? Good show Sam.
🤗LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING THE NEW MODEL Y …🤔 POSSIBLY USING FEWER BATTERIES 🔋 FOR CUTTING COSTS AND MAKING MORE VEHICLES 🤷♂️💚💚💚
STOP with the 'sine wave' Blade Battery already.!!
Tesla's problem is that they do not control the chemistry of their batteries. It keeps changing. They depend on the Chinese batteries / chemistry, that are apparently better than Tesla's. This is a big problem for Tesla, who's most expensive and critical part of their product is not under their control, while Chinese car companies keep improving their product and most importantly lower their price. Their 4680 batteries are not competitive over time unless they control the chemistry that goes into them. It does not look like this is going to change anytime soon..
Wrong.
The best batteries are made by Panasonic. Tesla uses the Panasonic batteries in the Semi truck and in its high end vehicles.
@@richardvivian3665 But what percentage of the batteries are made by Panasonic? As their production of vehicles increases, the % made by Panasonic is likely dropping. This is a problem. They are purchasing a lot of Chinese batteries. They are ramping the 4680 in house, but what is the cost of those batteries vs the Chinese ones? The chemistry of the chinese batteries is more advanced and cheaper, a lot cheaper.
Remember not too long ago when this same channel argued that Tesla was so far ahead in battery technology that the rest of the EV market would never catch up?
Funny how the CATL batteries that Tesla buys are the best ever, whereas any other CATL battery is outclassed by Tesla 😂
Jam tomorrow 😂😂😂😂
So will Model Y Juniper still qualify for the $7.5k US federal tax credit? Or will only the Perf model qualify (just like Model 3 Highland)?
There trying to start a LFP production line in Reno for that very reason I think . They have deal with I think CATL to produce
LFP there. The think is if Trump gets back in he will kill everything renewable and electric cars to if he can.
No wonder it seems as though Tesla is abandoning further proliferation of the 4680 cell design internally
They could put LFP's in that form factor if it made any sense.
Just saw a clip of a new Chinese company touting a 53% efficient Diesel engine. Guess they haven't heard of the EU laws staring in 2035.
What does this battery in the Model Y imply about the future of the 4680? Its main advantage was its low cost, especially with domestically produced subsidies. It appears to have been surpassed.
They can use all of the batteries they can produce themselves as well as what they can buy. 😊
4680 encountered production problems. It is currently going into the Cybertruck and ramping at about 3x the needed rate. Not enough for any other vehicles. They hope to get its cost down to a competitive level by year end. Sometimes innovation is hard.
6yr full timeline for the 4680 program to mature from the Sep 2020 battery day smh. Drew, Zach and elon have publicly commentated on this.
2022 the goal was to be competitive with existing cells at the pack level, multiple independent teardowns confirmed this in summer of 2022.
Then to end 2023 it was to be better than the competition, the cybercell in ct confirmed this during the munro teardown. Lighter than the rivian or gmc pack's and more energy dense. Plus nxu showed it can charge at 327+kws on a 1000v charger and get 80+miles back in 8mins! 😎
Finally to end 2024 thanks to the ira, 4680 in house cells should be cheaper than any competitors cells here in the U.S. at least.
Which should enable tesla to cut ct costs as production ramps&offer them in the Y again(cheaper decontented base variant maybe) or in the m3 for the first time qualifying it for the full tax credits again. It's gonna be interesting no doubt. 🤔
Exactly. If it ain't Chinese - best of luck.
4680 is form factor n packaging method. Can be made w LFP
Problem is China ahead in cost.l, Volume, reliability, exchange rates, subsidies, chemistry
The CATL / BYD prism form factor is cleaning house now.
4680 has NOT caught up. Hope they can
If the battery is the most expensive and most important part of an electric car, does the use of Chinese-made batteries make Tesla a Chinese-made car even though it is manufactured in Texas?
They are making batteries 🔋 in USA.
Sonny, it's Watt-hours per kilogram, NOT Watts per kilogram...
Every video he makes is a unit mess. Just a whole lot of hype that only a fool would believe because he clearly doesn't understand what he is talking about.
I have been watching 5-6 videos on youtube last month about game changing new battery . There is no chance for a proper change of en energy density within 2 years . Forget about it . 250Wh /kg is a magic limit
The daily , this is a game changer battery
Meanwhile Tesla revealed their 4680 cylindrical battery is reaching good production numbers and scale as per Tesla earnings report,this while kegacy auto has stalled their EV programs as their BEV sales took a dive!
Canada just announced $5 Billions Ca.$ Aid for Honda to go BEV in its Ontario Alliston Assembly plant, that for year 2028 production of 250,000 BEVs annually.,.
YES, we are seeing the last days of ICE, slowly but SURELY!
GO TESLA, GO!😂
I have to say all the people who comment negative about batteries and their tech happen to make it better with their negative views . Doesn’t charge as fast as I fill up … Okie doke we can crank it up to 550 kw and possibly go to 1MW… doesn’t have enough range okie doke will 600 plus miles work … I don’t like cobalt in my products … Okie doke how about LFP. Gives us better products
20% more range is significant, no idea how CATL improved their LFP. With batteries this good even smaller hatchbacks have enough battery space to have a practical milage. Now is the time to introduce the ultra cheap small EV with sufficient range.
I get soon from Tesla Y soon 650 miles
Why is Tesla still making 4680 batteries when these are so much better.
I just bought a used diesel car after 3 years with an ID.3. Will switch back to electric when this battery comes to a smaller Model Y Version (Model 2 oder similar). Until then I enjoy 860km of range on a single "charge"🤭
You must drive with a bottle strapped to your leg...
@@ohger1 I just let it run.
@@martingasiorek 😁
The most vertically integrated EV manufacturer is BYD.
Hmmmmmmm. I thought 4680’s were the future. I guess not. 4680’s were hot for about 4 months.
SAM ! Please say Watt-hours when you mean Watt-hours. And say Watts when you mean Watts. They are very different parameters.
"205 Watts per kilogram" means nothing. But, "205 Watt hours per kilogram" is probably what you mean.
So a quick calculation....at highway speeds, 70 - 80mph, consumption is about 350Wh per mile, therefore, if you want 200 highway miles you need 200 x 350/205 = 340kg of battery. That's not too bad, although what is this new battery's volumetric efficiency in terms of kWh per litre ? It could be the case that the battery weighs only 340kg but takes up most of the passenger compartment. And then you need start adding in structural reinforcement.....
Just fit a 2.0 tdi and be done with it |!
Their volumetric efficiency is also high so the notion that you would be sacrificing passenger compartment space to get extra range is just like the last part of your post, nonsense
@@douglaswatt1582 So you know for sure what the volumetric efficiency is , which wasn't mentioned in the video , but will definitely be able to tell me what it is now, being that you are someone with a head full of the facts
I look forward to this fact
@@douglaswatt1582 And whats wrong with a 2.0tdi anyway ? Well, don't let me distract you from writing the digits "***Wh/L", filling in *** with the volumetric efficiency of these batteries first
@@douglaswatt1582 The volumetric energy density is about 250Wh/L (I searched CATL press releases)
A 70kWh battery would require therefore 280 Litres of volume, but then you need to add packaging and strengthening and protection so ultimately say 330 Litres
To go 200 miles on the highway
I only need 20 litres of diesel to do the same distance !
Don't you wish you hadn't opened your mouth uselessly
Another day, another game changing EV development out of China. As if.
The word Shenxing "神行“ in Chinese means "Divine Travel".
Move like gods, out of this world!
When spirit leaves the body....
Range isn’t as important as charging speed and the availability of DC fast chargers. 250 miles of range and ability to add 200 miles of range in say 15 minutes is key. Then you are almost at parity with ICE cars and those without home chargers will feel comfortable owning an EV. Also a smaller battery will keep costs and weight down. If this battery achieves this it is a “game changer”😂
Range matters if you want to go fast. I have a newish model S with a stated 402 miles of range. When I’m doing long highway trips I pass Y’s and 3’s all the time as I don’t have to drop my speed down to get the range to hop from charger to charger. It’s funny I don’t see this talked about, but it’s a real thing. More range = faster driving.
There are people who need long range - they own a garage, travel 400 miles a day and have no time to sit at a DC charger. Others are the opposite, they own no garage and can't afford larger battery sizes -they need plenty of superchargers. They should cater to both markets.
Longer range I would rather have ,personally.
I don’t drive fast, I charge at night and start each day with 250 miles of range approximately, how many people need more than that? Probably less than 5%. How many road trips do people take in a year? If it’s more than 600 miles don’t most people fly?
@@michaelnurse9089It has to be about 1% of the population that drives 400 miles a day?
Just think if you wait 5 years it will be so much better and infrastructure will be better
Just run a vehicle on water as Stanely Meyer and Dennis Klien did. Filling up your fuel tank with water from a garden hose would be much faster and cheaper.
There are two web sites that have kept popping up on my phone for the last few weeks that promise perpetual motion. One of them has a flywheel with a crank with a spring attached and three plastic pop bottles half filled with gravel and attached to the flywheel spokes. The other has a car alternator driven by an electric motor; I think the idea is that the alternator generates the electricity to run the motor and also some surplus that you can use (when nobody is looking who is policing the laws of physics).
@@cedriclynch Hydrogen is a very powerful explosive gas. This is well known. Separating it from water has been perfected by the two mentioned inventors. Stanely Meyers mysterious death seems to confirm his threat to the oil industry. There are several such deaths among inventors of efficient carbonator systems. There are several patents held by the US navy on zero-point energy. I think it would be wise to explore suppressed technologies, patents, and those shelved for "national security". These technologies would be much more superior to wind turbines, EVs, and solar panels.
The new battery will affect any EV or home power battery for solar company and one day maybe even cell phones. First mover buyers out there will know that the new batteries are coming and the more ... experimental? ... EV's that they are producing - their first EV models - are going to look overpriced and the first mover buyers will shut down their purchase until the next wave hits. However, this kind of battery will open the market to people who are shopping on price basis for both home power and EV. Good work Viking
Bro doesn’t know how to convey km to miles
LG energy going out of business soon!
The electricity is still generated with coal. And the the electrical infrastructure still sucks. The most advanced electrical vehicles are highly advanced, still polluting steam engines. Until the electricity is green, whats the point?
Yet another « game changer » battery. I think this is number 1001! 😂
Get the battery and lose the STALKS. Gamers don't think stalks are necessary because their hand controller doesn't have turns 'lock to lock'..........in the same sense that motorcycles don't either. Being tech heads, rather than car guys, might have something to do with it.
Even if this report contains an element of hyperbole - these figures spell the end of new ICE cars, throw in the Euro 7 directive facing the car industry in 2025 and it would appear that the race is pretty well over for ICE vehicles.
Why are you making this a story about Tesla? Why didn't you talk about the Chinese EVs that are already using these batteries? The whole world doesn't revolve around Tesla.
Tesla should be making their own batteries and selling them to other EV makers.
Scenes of flood-ravaged neighborhoods in one of the planet’s driest regions stunned the world this month. Heavy rains in the United Arab Emirates and Oman submerged cars, clogged highways and killed at least 21 people. Flights out of Dubai’s airport, a major global hub, were severely disrupted. Stronger storms are a key consequence of human-caused global warming. As the atmosphere gets hotter, it can hold more moisture, which can eventually make its way down to the earth as rain or snow. Researchers said that if global warming were to be allowed to continue worsening in the coming decades, extreme downpours in the region would quite likely become more intense and more frequent. Large parts of the Indian, Pacific and Atlantic Oceans have been hotter than usual recently because of human-induced warming. “Rainfall, in general, is getting more extreme,” said Mansour Almazroui, a climate scientist at King Abdulaziz University in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, and one of the researchers who contributed to the analysis.
Global warming is a lie . It's getting colder.
And it's all BS.
@@robertfonovic3551 You can't handle the truth!
That means no $7,500 credit for Juniper.
I’d get it without the credit
I don't see hydrogen cars going anywhere in the future? Do you want to sit next to a hydrogen tank in the car?? Hydrogen maybe in airplane and helicopter.. Ships already battery powered..
Tesla has too many supplier
USA using Panasonic , China using LG and BYD
Why is it a problem? Easy to switch supply based on many factors
@@mark-ge8dr
Panasonic has LFP tech ?
There is a reason why Tesla USA's EV burnt much often compared to Shanghai made