Thank you! A lot of content creators talk about quality but you are the only one that actually takes their time to break down an explain if something is actual quality !
Yes of course! Glad you enjoyed and learned from the content😊. Joe's goal is to educate brands/consumers alike on what is quality product and how to buy or create proper garments. Feel free to ask any questions regarding fashion, manufacturing, and brand building🫡
Thank you for this video. I have been buying these for well over a decade. Now I have a greater appreciation of the value due to the attention to detail. Money well spent and they look as good as the day I bought them.
Firstly, love the videos! Huge help. Not sure if it's mentioned in another comment (there are too many to go through) but is there a comparable product at a lower price point that you've also reviewed? Would love a "if you're looking for an alternative, consider X, Y or Z" at the end of the vids maybe?
@@Shiftfashiongroup I will be buying one soon for the winter and want to see if the big outdoor brands are overhyped or if they actually have quality and are worth what they charge.
@@Shiftfashiongroup Please do it! and maybe compare with other similar level jackets. This brand and others like North Face were loved by the street fashion a while back ($400 USD hardshells for ppl walking 10 min in the rain in Toronto - poor use of $). It had such a hype but it's died down recently. I honestly love Arcteryx and own two hardshells (very expensive) but I used them for multi-night hikes and do believe they are good quality. Just found your channel and would love your input
Sorry to burst your bubble but Arc’teryx is on the same BS that Lululemon has been up to as of late. Updating/revising aka going to shit. Coincidentally the decline has been accelerated by some lulu execs jumping ship to Amer sports (owners of the dead bird). As if stealing all of our proprietary information and letting Covid get out wasn’t enough; now China is destroying all my favorite brands.
Haha, yes it's possible for Shift to like products. It just shows how many low quality products there are circulating the consumer market unfortunately😔
I've been leaning towards getting a pair. They're expensive but was hoping I could find a sale to try a pair. As someone who dresses business casual this is right up my alley.
I’ve been wearing ABC pants for years. Well worth the investment. I didn’t know about the tech behind it, but I can attest to the fact that they’re nearly indestructible. The same is true for all my Lulu workout shorts and shirts. Some of those date back to 2015 and they’re still going strong, even though they had the barbell rub against them a million times. Faded a bit from washing? Sure. Material and seams, though, as if I had just bought them. Bottom line for me; At this point, unless I’m in a suit, I’m almost exclusively wearing Lulu. If they made suits, I’d probably wear those, too.
Hey Scott, We're actually going to be dropping a Vuori review soon, stay tuned for it! As for the 32 degrees, what garment would you like to see us review?
@@Shiftfashiongroup I'd like to see something from 32 degrees in the same category as the upcoming Vuori review for comparison. If not that maybe the cool active shirt or pants from Costco.
@@Shiftfashiongroup looking forward to the pants from Vuori! I find that the ABC is similar to what they are offering after having owned one of each pair
@@ShiftfashiongroupJust discovered this channel and excited to hear that you'll be reviewing Vuori soon!! Hopefully you'll be looking into their Strato tech tee or their Dreamknit fabric, or perhaps compare their Meta pant that is often compared to LLL's ABC pant that you've reviewed here. Given Vuori's meteoric rise the past 1-2 years, I'm sure you'll find a lot of people interested in your review of Vuori. Thanks for sharing your insights and expertise!
I’m learning a lot on these video on a subject which is kind of safeguarded to avoid regular folks to avoid traps and pay high prices for something not worth any money. I’d love to see brand like Incotex or Moncler, the latter increased its prices by a factor 2 in just a few years ! I’d never buy today the coat I bought in 2013 at such ridiculous price. Keep up the great work, real pleasure to watch you sharing so much knowledge!
Give it a year... I bet he will be around 1 million by then. He has to get around all the noise in TH-cam, then he'll hit. It goes pretty fast up 👆 after that.
Great video! I'd like to request duluth firehose pants as a review, they've been my go to for a while but i'd love your perspective. To me they're rugged, hike/camp/motorcycle capable, durable, and still look very good in a casual/work setting
Any chance you could do a breakdown on some more 'high end' activewear/running brands such as Tracksmith, Janji, Soar, Bandit, Satisfy. Would be interesting to see since polyester seems like it can be really cheap or really nice.
Lulu has since updated/revised the abc pants. Which as you know is code for “we figured out some corners to cut that most customers won’t notice”. Any chance you can take them apart and compare? The new ones don’t have the seam behind the knee.
Can you do Fabletics? I have yet to be in love with any of their products, and there is something slightly wrong with fit and finish. I would love to get your take on them.
Lululemon does make good quality products. I have several of their gym tops and shorts. After 10 years, the shorts are wearing out at taped seal lines, but the gym tops are holding up well. And I work out at least 3x per week, and for ave. 2 hrs. per work out. Get the silver thread tops. I have 8 nos ABC pants and the design and workmanship are there. Only complaint I have are for the light beige color pants, I noticed there are some bleached spots, but none in the dark brown and black ones.
I love Carhartt lines as I work in a shop and office. I know WIP are over priced (I owned 3 WIP Jackets) and a lot of other mainline items. Aside from WIP overpricing they are all durable for work and weekends.
@@felixchow4662for sure too pricey at full retail, but they actually have pretty good 50% off sales throughout the year (I think as seasons end) where I get my stuff.
Thisbis the kind of videos I really like. We spend so much on clothes . It helps me understand what js worth buying and not buying. Also heps determine what brands are gimmiky versus not.
Excellent video do the new venture classic fit shirt by Lululemon! Just got a couple and im surprised by how good of the quality and fit they were attention to detail is excellent as well
15:11 - Thanks for explaining what ABC stands for. I wouldn't guess it's Anti Ball Crushing technology :) I wonder if during washing black dye leaks from pockets to the light one.
Wonderful video! This is exactly the sort of nerding out that I love, with your attention to detail and knowledge base. Can’t wait to see more of these! Request: I am wondering if Arcteryx still has the same quality as it had 10 years ago since it moved its production overseas-one of the gamma jackets maybe?
Great video... i actually brought a pair because of your video. I did some google-ing and found that Quince pants are as good but cheaper. Hope you can do a review on them too.
thank you, very detailed review and I love to see brands are actually making their product with hearts. Just not sure if I need that much of a details in a day to day pants. I am from Vancouver and I work in and out of a office and shop. I mostly wear T-shirt and Jeans at work so I would like to see if you will be interested in reviewing Worker clothings like Carhartt and Dickies.
Please do Rhone Commuter Pants. I own 7 of them in different kind of color and fit. Still my favorite so far. My go to outfit is rhone pants and Uniqlo crew t-shirt Airism.
Brilliant review and break down. Looking forward to many more videos. Please make a video collection for garments that have 10 a value and/or 40 score (or close to). I love these pants, had them for years, but it sounds like you’ve seen better… but perhaps not as good value.
Nice breakdown! I’ve had a lot of these and can say they last a long time while looking good. I’ve got some 5 year old pairs that look almost new. I’m not really a fan of how they fit anymore though
Value for money is a 5 maybe 6. There are very well made pants from Decathelon prices at 60% cheaper and the quality is superb. Let the the name Lulumon brand name sucker you into spending another $90 when its not needed.
I have been wearing ABC pants exclusively for the last two years. While they have this reflective strip, it doesnt hold up riding on bikes too well. The first pairs display some crotch wear already
Please do a pair of Solotex pants from Banana Republic, they make a pant that is in a similar category to this one and I would like to know how it stands up to LuLu's.
I owned a pair, the first thing to break down was the belt ringlets, which tore on the bottom seam (multiple), and holes opened up on the back pockets where the top seams meet the pant, this was within 1.5 years if ownership. Ive since retired them and likely wont buy another.
Yup, quality has definitely dropped in the past few years. People talk about their pairs from 10 years ago lasting better than their purchase from 2 years ago
I have six pairs of ABC pants. They are comfortable and easy to maintain. But there is an issue for all the pairs. After a months or two the color starts to fade especially around the waist band area.
I loved my ABC pants for the comfort and function that it provided while maintaining a clean aesthetic for work. I only have one fault with it: the “ABC” tech around the crotch ripped from my thighs constantly rubbing against each other. To be fair, this happens to most of my pants including jeans after wearing them for a long time. I’ve worn my ABC’s for 3 out 5 days of the week for about two years until it ripped. Has this happened to anyone else?
As someone with no background for previous care for clothes I am loving these videos. I can't wait for this channel to mature and possibly expand into other fields. My comments. - Love the technical content, manufacturing, fabrics, etc. - Elevating the hidden secrets and details engineers likely slaved to perfect just to be hidden gives tremendous credibility (or tarnish) to these brands. - The deconstruction section could be sped up or simplified. The content is great but feels long. - You do start to lose my attention at the score rating. I feel that can be simplified or dropped.
I would never buy a hundred dollar pant, but after watching your teardown, I actually want to invest in this hundred dollar pant. Knowing it is a product with many thought put into it instead of just branding premium make this pant much more attractive. One question - Is there other way to mimic the gusset function without it? I would like to learn what to look for to judge a garment is comfortable or not. AND thank you very much for your video!
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Thank you! A lot of content creators talk about quality but you are the only one that actually takes their time to break down an explain if something is actual quality !
Yes of course! Glad you enjoyed and learned from the content😊. Joe's goal is to educate brands/consumers alike on what is quality product and how to buy or create proper garments. Feel free to ask any questions regarding fashion, manufacturing, and brand building🫡
@@Shiftfashiongroup based on your analysis, which brand has highest quality pants?
theres your answer right there content creators are dead give away for snake oil salesman
Thank you for this video. I have been buying these for well over a decade. Now I have a greater appreciation of the value due to the attention to detail. Money well spent and they look as good as the day I bought them.
that coin pocket is so useful for wireless earbuds. the cases fit nicely.
My iPhone (without a case) fits in there too and it keeps my phone from making my pockets look overstuffed
I have ten pairs of those ABC pants. They are very comfortable and don't fade.
Firstly, love the videos! Huge help. Not sure if it's mentioned in another comment (there are too many to go through) but is there a comparable product at a lower price point that you've also reviewed? Would love a "if you're looking for an alternative, consider X, Y or Z" at the end of the vids maybe?
I would recommend you guys try arcteryx, probably one of their shell jackets because they are the most popular. Maybe the beta or alpha models.
We'll add it to the list! Why are you interested in arcteryx? Do you own a shell jacket yourself or are you interested in buying one?
@@Shiftfashiongroup I will be buying one soon for the winter and want to see if the big outdoor brands are overhyped or if they actually have quality and are worth what they charge.
@@Shiftfashiongroup Please do it! and maybe compare with other similar level jackets. This brand and others like North Face were loved by the street fashion a while back ($400 USD hardshells for ppl walking 10 min in the rain in Toronto - poor use of $). It had such a hype but it's died down recently. I honestly love Arcteryx and own two hardshells (very expensive) but I used them for multi-night hikes and do believe they are good quality. Just found your channel and would love your input
Sorry to burst your bubble but Arc’teryx is on the same BS that Lululemon has been up to as of late. Updating/revising aka going to shit. Coincidentally the decline has been accelerated by some lulu execs jumping ship to Amer sports (owners of the dead bird). As if stealing all of our proprietary information and letting Covid get out wasn’t enough; now China is destroying all my favorite brands.
It’s nice to see shiftfashion group liking a product 😂. Overall a fantastic video.
Haha, yes it's possible for Shift to like products. It just shows how many low quality products there are circulating the consumer market unfortunately😔
I've been leaning towards getting a pair. They're expensive but was hoping I could find a sale to try a pair. As someone who dresses business casual this is right up my alley.
If you have an outlet mall nearby, they may have a store there. Friends of mine buy theirs online from reseller sites, i.e: eBay, Poshmark, etc.
@@GSAirTherapy Problem with outlet stuff is that it can be lesser quality stuff.
@@Plague_Doc22 lululemon outlet is mostly returns.
@@Plague_Doc22yeah it could be imitation too
I love how you gushed over the workmanship! I really hope the seamstresses get to watch this review with pride 😊
I live in these pants. They're great, especially commuting in NYC and I love that they don't wrinkle.
I’ve been wearing ABC pants for years. Well worth the investment. I didn’t know about the tech behind it, but I can attest to the fact that they’re nearly indestructible. The same is true for all my Lulu workout shorts and shirts. Some of those date back to 2015 and they’re still going strong, even though they had the barbell rub against them a million times. Faded a bit from washing? Sure. Material and seams, though, as if I had just bought them. Bottom line for me; At this point, unless I’m in a suit, I’m almost exclusively wearing Lulu. If they made suits, I’d probably wear those, too.
Your videos are awesome! Every piece of Lululemon clothing that I own has outlasted the rest of my closet.
The best breakdown of the processes involved . So helpful in knowing what quality is .
Enjoyed the video. I'd like to see some content on Vuori and 32 Degrees.
Hey Scott, We're actually going to be dropping a Vuori review soon, stay tuned for it! As for the 32 degrees, what garment would you like to see us review?
@@Shiftfashiongroup I'd like to see something from 32 degrees in the same category as the upcoming Vuori review for comparison. If not that maybe the cool active shirt or pants from Costco.
@@Shiftfashiongroup looking forward to the pants from Vuori! I find that the ABC is similar to what they are offering after having owned one of each pair
@@ShiftfashiongroupJust discovered this channel and excited to hear that you'll be reviewing Vuori soon!! Hopefully you'll be looking into their Strato tech tee or their Dreamknit fabric, or perhaps compare their Meta pant that is often compared to LLL's ABC pant that you've reviewed here. Given Vuori's meteoric rise the past 1-2 years, I'm sure you'll find a lot of people interested in your review of Vuori. Thanks for sharing your insights and expertise!
do a teardown of Japanese brands: Needles, beams plus, engineered garments and etc
Very detailed breakdown. Thank you 🙏
Hopefully their outlet items have similar quality.
Fantastic review. You have to post what kind of hair products you use too! Seriously!
I’m learning a lot on these video on a subject which is kind of safeguarded to avoid regular folks to avoid traps and pay high prices for something not worth any money. I’d love to see brand like Incotex or Moncler, the latter increased its prices by a factor 2 in just a few years ! I’d never buy today the coat I bought in 2013 at such ridiculous price. Keep up the great work, real pleasure to watch you sharing so much knowledge!
How does this channel not have millions of subscribers?
Give it a year... I bet he will be around 1 million by then. He has to get around all the noise in TH-cam, then he'll hit. It goes pretty fast up 👆 after that.
Great video! I'd like to request duluth firehose pants as a review, they've been my go to for a while but i'd love your perspective. To me they're rugged, hike/camp/motorcycle capable, durable, and still look very good in a casual/work setting
Hi Ajax, we can certainly add these to our list! In your own perspective, would you recommend these pants to other people?
Any chance you could do a breakdown on some more 'high end' activewear/running brands such as Tracksmith, Janji, Soar, Bandit, Satisfy. Would be interesting to see since polyester seems like it can be really cheap or really nice.
Lulu has since updated/revised the abc pants. Which as you know is code for “we figured out some corners to cut that most customers won’t notice”. Any chance you can take them apart and compare? The new ones don’t have the seam behind the knee.
I hope you eventually do a summary vid, like "best bang for your buck" type content. ❤😊
Can you do Fabletics?
I have yet to be in love with any of their products, and there is something slightly wrong with fit and finish. I would love to get your take on them.
Lululemon does make good quality products. I have several of their gym tops and shorts. After 10 years, the shorts are wearing out at taped seal lines, but the gym tops are holding up well. And I work out at least 3x per week, and for ave. 2 hrs. per work out. Get the silver thread tops.
I have 8 nos ABC pants and the design and workmanship are there.
Only complaint I have are for the light beige color pants, I noticed there are some bleached spots, but none in the dark brown and black ones.
"That 'technology' is just a piece of fabric turned sideways." 😂
lmao, i chuckled.
Joe is so diplomatic with this stuff
It is still a technology though
I have had 3 pairs of ABC pants so far, and I think the Utilitech fabric is my favorite form of them. I'd love to see those reviewed! Thanks!
Actually if you include ABC joggers I've had 5 pairs.
Thanks for the interesting video! Curious how you would compare it to the Rhone Commuter pant? Follow-up video perhaps? 😃
These are so great. Really hanging out for a Carhartt WIP review - hopefully on their Chase line or Vista line.
I love Carhartt lines as I work in a shop and office. I know WIP are over priced (I owned 3 WIP Jackets) and a lot of other mainline items. Aside from WIP overpricing they are all durable for work and weekends.
@@felixchow4662for sure too pricey at full retail, but they actually have pretty good 50% off sales throughout the year (I think as seasons end) where I get my stuff.
Excellent breakdown thank you!
Glad you enjoyed it😊
Thisbis the kind of videos I really like. We spend so much on clothes . It helps me understand what js worth buying and not buying. Also heps determine what brands are gimmiky versus not.
I own these pants and they're excellent. I prefer them to the more expensive Outlier pants. However, I prefer Outlier shirts to LuluLemon shirts.
Zyn pocket is crazy 😂😂
Excellent video do the new venture classic fit shirt by Lululemon! Just got a couple and im surprised by how good of the quality and fit they were attention to detail is excellent as well
Love your teardown Videos! Would love to See a teardown of „Shaping new tomorrow“ :) keep up the great work !
Best pants I own, thank you for your dissection and explanation.
Would love to see a breakdown of the Fabletics only pant!
I love this content please keep it up!!
15:11 - Thanks for explaining what ABC stands for. I wouldn't guess it's Anti Ball Crushing technology :) I wonder if during washing black dye leaks from pockets to the light one.
I learnt so much today. Thank you for such a great content
The zyn pocket is one of my favorite features
Wonderful video! This is exactly the sort of nerding out that I love, with your attention to detail and knowledge base. Can’t wait to see more of these! Request: I am wondering if Arcteryx still has the same quality as it had 10 years ago since it moved its production overseas-one of the gamma jackets maybe?
Great video... i actually brought a pair because of your video. I did some google-ing and found that Quince pants are as good but cheaper. Hope you can do a review on them too.
thank you, very detailed review and I love to see brands are actually making their product with hearts. Just not sure if I need that much of a details in a day to day pants. I am from Vancouver and I work in and out of a office and shop. I mostly wear T-shirt and Jeans at work so I would like to see if you will be interested in reviewing Worker clothings like Carhartt and Dickies.
Costco has a "dupe" of these pants. Would be curious how they compare.
Please do Rhone Commuter Pants. I own 7 of them in different kind of color and fit. Still my favorite so far. My go to outfit is rhone pants and Uniqlo crew t-shirt Airism.
Brilliant review and break down. Looking forward to many more videos.
Please make a video collection for garments that have 10 a value and/or 40 score (or close to).
I love these pants, had them for years, but it sounds like you’ve seen better… but perhaps not as good value.
Super interesting video. Id like to see a breakdown of ASRV brand.
I'd like to see a breakdown of an Arc'teryx Veilance piece or two. Maybe a jacket and a pair of pants.
Warpstream fabric is very durable and maintains well after over 50 washes.
another great video.. thank you!!
what is the brand of the t-shirt you are wearing sir?
Nice breakdown! I’ve had a lot of these and can say they last a long time while looking good. I’ve got some 5 year old pairs that look almost new. I’m not really a fan of how they fit anymore though
Good video. I have a handful of Lulu pants and like them a lot.
Have you done any videos featuring Outlier, Aether, or Ministry of Supply?
Value for money is a 5 maybe 6. There are very well made pants from Decathelon prices at 60% cheaper and the quality is superb. Let the the name Lulumon brand name sucker you into spending another $90 when its not needed.
What’s the name of the decathlon model? I would be interested.
please do standard weekday t-shirt review!
Now I might actually get a lululemon
Would be really cool to see what you think about Aimé Leon Dore & Drolé de Monsieur. Thanks for the content!
Do you know about rain jackets or jackets? I was wondering the quality of arcteryx clothing
Can you do am in-depth analysis on different types of washes, like garment dyed, sun fade,pigment dyed, acid wash, burn wash,and others. Thanks
Would love a breakdown of Outlier pants
+ 1
Isn't this the older version with the back knee seam? I tried a newer version without the back knee seam and it felt cheaper.
Yes, old model, you can clearly see the seam at 3:15. Need to do another video on the new model 😅
Was thinking of getting it but its never on sale. Now i know why.
I enjoy your content!
I have been wearing ABC pants exclusively for the last two years. While they have this reflective strip, it doesnt hold up riding on bikes too well. The first pairs display some crotch wear already
COS does that side seam detail a lot-I've never really understood why. It just adds unnecessary bulk to the seams and makes ironing more challenging.
Can you review bearskin that is advertised everywhere and is very expensive. Not sure it if is worth the money
Love this brand
Could you do their activewear too?! Their License to train joggers, surge, or pace breakers!!
I actually didnt expect him to give this pants such a high score.
Why not? If u own a pair.. u know how good the pants is
love the vids! By the way 0:31 it's not the jogger, seems to be the ABC Slim-Fit warpstreme pants
Please do a pair of Solotex pants from Banana Republic, they make a pant that is in a similar category to this one and I would like to know how it stands up to LuLu's.
Would love to see a video on huckberry
I owned a pair, the first thing to break down was the belt ringlets, which tore on the bottom seam (multiple), and holes opened up on the back pockets where the top seams meet the pant, this was within 1.5 years if ownership. Ive since retired them and likely wont buy another.
Yup, quality has definitely dropped in the past few years. People talk about their pairs from 10 years ago lasting better than their purchase from 2 years ago
Maybe you'll like Gash Hao's pants, it's a niche gem of a brand with good quality at a great price, I already have 4 pairs!
Please consider Satisfy Running next 👌
Love your content, would love to see a tear down on a REPRESENT hoodie and/ or a House Of Blanks Hoodie.
He's done House of Blanks-it's the Roopa Mills one.
Nice vid! Do seagale and western rise pants next time !
These have been my everyday commuters for about five years of wear 2-3 times a week and still no visible signs of wear or aging. Now I know why.
Can you do the effortless pants from Aritzia??
Hoping you would cover lacost someday.
I have six pairs of ABC pants. They are comfortable and easy to maintain. But there is an issue for all the pairs. After a months or two the color starts to fade especially around the waist band area.
I loved my ABC pants for the comfort and function that it provided while maintaining a clean aesthetic for work. I only have one fault with it: the “ABC” tech around the crotch ripped from my thighs constantly rubbing against each other. To be fair, this happens to most of my pants including jeans after wearing them for a long time. I’ve worn my ABC’s for 3 out 5 days of the week for about two years until it ripped.
Has this happened to anyone else?
Any recs for something higher quality than these? I want something just slightly thicker with better structure
As someone with no background for previous care for clothes I am loving these videos. I can't wait for this channel to mature and possibly expand into other fields.
My comments.
- Love the technical content, manufacturing, fabrics, etc.
- Elevating the hidden secrets and details engineers likely slaved to perfect just to be hidden gives tremendous credibility (or tarnish) to these brands.
- The deconstruction section could be sped up or simplified. The content is great but feels long.
- You do start to lose my attention at the score rating. I feel that can be simplified or dropped.
Hiroshi Kato jeans please!
Does the plastic pants have PFAS in it? How are we supposed to decide when it will be safe to wear lululemon again? Will they ever go oeko-tex?
Good to see the intricacies but for me at that price, I can buy bespoke tailor made in Indonesia for $35
Please do acronym next haha
What brand/style of tshirt are you wearing in this video?
Hey Ian, Joe wears samples that he tests out for clients!
How about bags? Peak Design? Freitag?
I would never buy a hundred dollar pant, but after watching your teardown, I actually want to invest in this hundred dollar pant. Knowing it is a product with many thought put into it instead of just branding premium make this pant much more attractive.
One question - Is there other way to mimic the gusset function without it? I would like to learn what to look for to judge a garment is comfortable or not.
AND thank you very much for your video!
Can we compare this to Uniqlo airsense pants?
I’m waiting for stussy garment review 😃
Can you do Patagonia next! The Better Sweater
So what are some brands that are like lululemone quality but the right price
Can you do a video on kyodan?
great vid as always
That panelling in the back might also mean less wastage in the lay.
How about Western Rise?
Can you compare Uniqlo vs MUJI
Do ASRV next, please!