Janna and WHY Arcane is HUGE IQ Diff

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  • Arcane has so many layers to it. In this video we analyze the parallel between Jinx and Janna. As Janna doesn't mak an apperance but seems to use Jinx to do her work.
    Music by Karl Casey ‪@WhiteBatAudio‬

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  • @jericho2281999
    @jericho2281999 หลายเดือนก่อน +46

    Jinx is the blue bird of Janna. The chant from “ashes and blood” is shuriman and it talks about the blue bird of Janna.

    • @phatfairy6535
      @phatfairy6535 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      "Beyond these walls, the storms fury grows. Over land and sea, the storms fury grows. But I have nothing to fear, for the blue bird is with me..."

  • @arbiterally101
    @arbiterally101 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

    It deserves noting that Janna is a dualistic deity. She embodies both the benevolence of the tailwind, and the fury of a storm. She’s Zaun’s patron goddess, and associated with clean air to them.
    But to be someone chosen by Janna, you need to embody both aspects. The gentle wind, and the unrelenting gale.
    Now who’s in this show that’s constantly stuck between two poles? Oh and also heavily associated with the color blue?

    • @internetloy
      @internetloy  หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Didn't catch a lot of this, thanks!

  • @ayyyyyyyyyix3053
    @ayyyyyyyyyix3053 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    Jinx escaping from the air ducts is a strong hint aswell, it's like she is one with the wind.

  • @Seojin234
    @Seojin234 หลายเดือนก่อน +75

    And where does she escape from in the last scene? An air vent!

    • @Im2Xtr3me
      @Im2Xtr3me หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I know arcane has a lot of layers but why does everyone glaze the writers so much

    • @toxincloud1629
      @toxincloud1629 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      @@Im2Xtr3me u rater us be apathic ? why can't we glaze ? Why could't we express enjoyment of a mediia in a comment section about sayed media ?

    • @lockekappa500
      @lockekappa500 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@toxincloud1629 This.

    • @Im2Xtr3me
      @Im2Xtr3me หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @toxincloud1629 I mean half of the "hidden details" are unintentional

    • @lockekappa500
      @lockekappa500 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@Im2Xtr3me Curious how one unintentionally animates something?

  • @Frongo
    @Frongo หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    for every story arcane tells, it implies a dozen more

    • @lockekappa500
      @lockekappa500 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yup, and that is because it is so intentional with it's details. That you can infer so many things that are simply shown in a small detail.

    • @Darlf_Sevil
      @Darlf_Sevil หลายเดือนก่อน

      And break another 10 000 more

  • @sagehawk12
    @sagehawk12 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    That's why she was so easily latched onto by zaun as a revolutionary figure. Blue hair is a spiritual meaning. Nice.

  • @LISA.WANG.
    @LISA.WANG. หลายเดือนก่อน +42

    I love seeing arcane analysis getting started after we’ve all had time to digest the show now. This is so exciting, ty for the effort 👏

  • @joopsvt
    @joopsvt หลายเดือนก่อน +46

    Are you tryna say Janna ulted to save jinx and push her into the air ducts?

    • @internetloy
      @internetloy  หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      lets go with that

  • @mariaantonia-op8qc
    @mariaantonia-op8qc หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    "Beyond these walls, the storm's fury grows
    Over land and sea, the storm's fury grows
    But I have nothing to fear!
    For the blue bird is with me"
    That's the prayer the backing vocals are chanting in "To ashes and blood" while the Cait and Vi vs Sevika and Jinx is happening. Janna is referenced as a blue bird, but that also fits Jinx so well with her association to blue and prevalent bird motif.

  • @rayzhang3425
    @rayzhang3425 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    The feature of the ancient Shuriman prayer to Janna makes so much sense now! In ashes and blood, I think, from that very same fight between the vessel and the opposition

    • @lockekappa500
      @lockekappa500 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yup, the fight in EP03 has Shuriman chanting in it.

  • @phatfairy6535
    @phatfairy6535 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    At the very end, when we see the Zeppelin flying away, we also see a cloud in the shape of a bird. This is one of the many things that hint to Jinx surviving, since she is Janna's "blue bird".

  • @ExclusiveExcellence
    @ExclusiveExcellence หลายเดือนก่อน +68

    I’ve been saying this the day one of the complaining on twitter… if you don’t get what’s going on in a scene or why it’s important (for instance people asking why Ekko needed an entire ep or why Cait didn’t immediately kill Jinx in ep 6/8) they likely have poor media literacy; which for Arcane, a show where the better your ability it pick up detail quickly the more enjoyable the show, means you won’t have a great time (at least to the same level of everyone else discussing it/raving about it).

    • @viktoriaj.5973
      @viktoriaj.5973 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      THANK YOU! I keep seeing comments and how Christian was attacked even though he said before that he's scared of people's reaction and I am confused, like have we watched the same thing? Rushed, not enough time for characters, and whatnot? And then it clicked once I've read the comments about who wanted which character to hook up with which other character and extended s*x scene just for the sake of it, and how the series sucked because they didn't want this ending for [insert character name here]. And then I realized that it's not me who is too forgiving with the series but rather it's others who instead of enjoying, internalizing, and analyzing the media, choose to only look at [hot character] and characters banging and everything being spelled out instead of insinuated. I am very sad to see this much, if not hate, at least still anger, towards a series that is the best that I have seen in a damn long time and at least one of the best (if not the best) I have ever seen.

    • @samshepherd2488
      @samshepherd2488 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Good bloke - good content. Thanks bro :)

  • @snuvmelon9974
    @snuvmelon9974 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Half the Viktor backlast tells me we are not smart enough.

  • @realantagonist5324
    @realantagonist5324 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Janna and Jinx sounds alot like the relationship of The Fingers and some of the characters in Elden Ring.

  • @Jiggo453
    @Jiggo453 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    It's really crazy., how we as a community find hidden details every day that show that Arcane is probably one of the greatest masterpieces ever

  • @Msvalexvalex
    @Msvalexvalex 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is not a show you watch while playing on your phone. You need all your concentration! And on every rewatch, you discover more. 🤩

  • @theepicblad9
    @theepicblad9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Ok I am surprised that you only have around 10k subs man. This is some very good content. I knew Arcane was a masterpiece but damn... the level of storytelling they do with everything at their disposal is honestly extremely impressive.

  • @Dragonblade722
    @Dragonblade722 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I defiantly love this theory. The idea of Janna being in the background and protecting Jinx is a great set up for her becoming a symbol for the people of Zaun.
    I can't wait for the writers to drop this plotline and do nothing with it.

  • @skinpa
    @skinpa หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    This is an 8-min video telling the viewers there is an IQ diff between them and Loy, and I'm here for it.

    • @aooide
      @aooide หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Lol

    • @lockekappa500
      @lockekappa500 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Where's the lie though?

    • @internetloy
      @internetloy  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      fam😂

    • @sharagastardo3993
      @sharagastardo3993 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      😂😂😂😂😂

  • @hoslow9727
    @hoslow9727 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Thats so smart i never would have caught that
    7:44 thx for the IQ boost

  • @dumindahashan5568
    @dumindahashan5568 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    This is so true. Arcane is not for dumb audience.

  • @somechannel2461
    @somechannel2461 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Jinx use to love air....ships...she had blue hairs...fire up blue flair
    and Jaana is knowed as blue bird, protector of Zaun, Wind goddess of seas/oceans
    So they could have some relation to each other

  • @PillowEgg
    @PillowEgg หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    That's pretty brilliant, I've always wondered on the intention and direction on why the creators did what they did.
    Who would have thought to make Jinx's hideout to be that of a propeller or equivalent of a hot air balloon type based on the rails and the smoke clouds tatoos on her arms, I always thought it was in reference to the smoke beacon she pulls to attract and call out Vi,. but it went into very deeper layers interwoven to many parts of the show as a constant reminder to the viewer, the show is just brilliant.
    I noticed some simar things with reference to her animal weapons, like mouser, chomper, fishbones, Rhino etc. They are all represented by animals and as Powder matures so does the animals going from weak or herbivore or useless like a bunny and monkey, to animals with more teeth or predatory and dangerous like a shark. Powder uses the bunny fingers symbol as a callout that her mom used, she used it during the ekko bridgefight, and alt talk with Benzo. The monkey is a recurring theme throughout as found in Ekko's Z-Drive, the bomb Powder used with Hex gem, and even in the noise clapping cave. It's subtle but the clapping of the cave to illuminate the cave is that of a monkey and the cybals. The direction to light up the cave could have been as easy as turning on a light switch, but the directors instead to choose clapping or sound to illuminate the cave instead. It seems like every intention and direction by the designers is meticulousy chose on a conscious and subconscious level that we allow it to function.
    I recall this type of symbolic imagery is also present in films like Jurassic Park and Terminator. I recommend you watch Mike Hill's lectures on the Power of metaphor and Speliberg's Subtext if you are more interested on this type of subject, it's on TH-cam.

    • @internetloy
      @internetloy  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Sounds interesting, I'll definitely scope Mike Hill when I get the chance

  • @timmcdraw7568
    @timmcdraw7568 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I know i have said this before on others videos, but i cant understand why you dont have tens of thousand subs. Especially on your arcane content. Truly fantastic. This Janna topic was not on my radar at all! But of course a show like arcane which covers every aspect of life and death would also have a spiritual aspect woven in to the world, besides just mentioning that some people worship a deity.

    • @xic777
      @xic777 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      big facts, this dude videos are top notch, audio, information everything

    • @internetloy
      @internetloy  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks so much! Yeah I keep finding things that shock me now that the series is done, it's really a special one

  • @Eckmuhl29
    @Eckmuhl29 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    5:20 There are a lot of crows in Arcane, even in the S1. I think it's Swain or the Dark Rose spying on them to acquire the powers of shimer and hextech

    • @jackbruce3407
      @jackbruce3407 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It would be cool, but swains crows are really only the red multiple eyed ones like the one seen in the last episode

    • @Jaemy_art
      @Jaemy_art หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Swain have raven, and fiddle has crows

  • @DennisM-wp7jt
    @DennisM-wp7jt หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    IQ Diff compared to what? You can't just use the word "diff" without a counterpart.

  • @lairenepapa
    @lairenepapa หลายเดือนก่อน

    love this. I also like the reference they did about Macbeth and Caytlin; not only the shadow crown in the intro, but also the song they chose for her (heavy is the crown)

  • @xic777
    @xic777 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    damn what a dang good video, sheesh, great work man

  • @armaaka8
    @armaaka8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    through air vents as well, what janna was the one who saved her somehow, like freed her from warwick's grip

  • @vikkidonn
    @vikkidonn หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I’ve been saying this to several questions or complaints. Half the viewers treated the show like S1 GoT while the others were so caught up in their favs it was like S8 GoT with them. Their favorites had sex, character “x” lived, ect. Screw everything else.

  • @davidbell2003
    @davidbell2003 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Working non-stop my dude 👌🏿👏🏿💪🏿👍🏿 thanks for the great video 10,000 right around the corner 🎉 🥳🎉

    • @internetloy
      @internetloy  หลายเดือนก่อน

      we keep at it bro!

  • @yaboijimbo3696
    @yaboijimbo3696 หลายเดือนก่อน

    amazing analysis as always ♥

  • @hussonfanny6063
    @hussonfanny6063 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was wondering why was I such in peace while watching your video. It's definitly Journey's sountrack playing on the back .. That's why ! Good choice !

  • @atlanta2076
    @atlanta2076 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You have earned my subscribtion, Sir!

  • @spbot2
    @spbot2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You cant first ask if we played lol and then say that jinx and janna are the same person😂

  • @Eckmuhl29
    @Eckmuhl29 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    If Jinx is like a Janna Vessel, is Vi also close to a myth?

    • @jackbruce3407
      @jackbruce3407 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Not really, vi is just vi

  • @budoshi-f2l
    @budoshi-f2l หลายเดือนก่อน

    That's why this series need more than one watch

  • @sck_lowfire
    @sck_lowfire หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've had people watch it but they don't pay as much attention to it. There's a lot of "blink and you can miss it" moments, but there's also the aspect of seeing the characters thinking, facial expressions, subtle body language and they don't get as respected simply for being animated and not live actors -is what it seems like to me for some people.

  • @Spiritualanalyst69
    @Spiritualanalyst69 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    So many people misunderstand the arcane series

  • @slaaneshhedonite7068
    @slaaneshhedonite7068 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Well done dude.
    I know Jack💩 about LoL. I’m sure I missed a lot of context upon my viewings.
    Which is what guys like you are for. 😉👍

  • @mboujon
    @mboujon หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Even in league. Jinx and Janna bot lane is a crazy synergy lane. Those two compliment each other

  • @hardbasskvass597
    @hardbasskvass597 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Janna also means Guardian in Shuriman

  • @jeloneq7
    @jeloneq7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    MEDS

  • @entropyfun
    @entropyfun หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    My understanding is they used the gray as a cover, not to gas the undercity. Why would Vi agree to that?

    • @DreamersOfReality
      @DreamersOfReality หลายเดือนก่อน

      In the first season, Vi's pursuit of revenge against Silco resulted in Jayce murdering a child. He couldn't handle it, but Vi didn't seem to care that her fight would kill Zaunites. She's always been one of those people who believe the ends justify the means.

    • @lockekappa500
      @lockekappa500 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Vi literally says "we used it as a cover so we could clear the streets and not hurt people" So yes, they used it as a cover.

  • @lockekappa500
    @lockekappa500 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Finally, a video and a content creator with actual media literacy, who digs deeper into this show, portraying it as it is, not as the mainstream THINKS it is. Incredible video, especially the part about the Maddie smoke bomb in S02E01.

  • @sharagastardo3993
    @sharagastardo3993 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I badly wanted to see janna and kept commenting in IG and FB about I wanna see her. but dang... this vid changed my mind. as a janna main. I failed to see her dang

  • @mileslugo6430
    @mileslugo6430 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Didn't Viktor show up in a blue toga?

  • @Joeshmoe2579
    @Joeshmoe2579 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Me who plays league of legends since S2 (2011) and don't know too much about the lore till Arcane 😅
    I just know the characters and their abilities generally where they are from.

  • @realantagonist5324
    @realantagonist5324 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Btw its not really IQ diff its more of a knowledge of lore diff. Necrit could probably point out more parallels than you did tbh because he knows the Lore of LoL inside and out.

  • @DennisM-wp7jt
    @DennisM-wp7jt หลายเดือนก่อน

    I really really hate Caitlyns face 😭😭

  • @lockekappa500
    @lockekappa500 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Subbed. Subbed. Subbed. You all should too. Get this man 10k.

    • @internetloy
      @internetloy  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Bless lets go!

  • @superitgel1
    @superitgel1 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You forgot to mention Janna's 3 eyed crow.

    • @SeerRipper
      @SeerRipper หลายเดือนก่อน

      Huh

  • @shadowgamer4306
    @shadowgamer4306 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Arcane Season 2 had such high hopes. Sad that it didn’t live up to them.

  • @toxincloud1629
    @toxincloud1629 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ur cooking

  • @tolyvlah69
    @tolyvlah69 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Good tinfoil theory if you don't know how physics works

    • @johnnyjoestar42069
      @johnnyjoestar42069 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      we are talking about gods and fiction lil bro

    • @tolyvlah69
      @tolyvlah69 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @johnnyjoestar42069 and thus you need to merge 2 separate characters into one and maybe later ship Jayce and Viktor. Got you. Makes sense.

    • @lockekappa500
      @lockekappa500 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@tolyvlah69 I never got this video as him merging two champions into one. Simply that Jinx embodied the values and influence that Janna already had to the people of Zaun. Which is why they so easily latched onto her ideals. Even if Jinx didn't intend. Hell, as much as Jinx made fun of the stories vander used to tell them, I think they influenced her in a positive way, maybe without her knowing.

    • @tolyvlah69
      @tolyvlah69 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @lockekappa500 that's genuinely a good point. I can agree with that

  • @yaaseenm
    @yaaseenm หลายเดือนก่อน

    The background music used in the video is from the game “Journey” and its soundtrack is very fitting because one of the main mechanics is using wind. Well Done Loy 🫡🫡