William Saad We also get Heated rear seats, built in Navigation, built in wireless charger and a spare tire usually Canadian Honda’s are usually better equipped even our CRV gets a panoramic sunroof
@@williamsaad6833 I drive a 17 Canadian Si and it fascinates me how different the Canadian version is this generation. The differences are actually summed up in that the US model is based on an Ex-T, where the Canadian Si was a touring model with the safety sensors removed. The actual reasoning iirc was that civics are significantly more popular in canada and they have to add in a little more value to keep it relevant up here. also fun fact, Canadian civics in general have a 2x larger windshield washer tank and is placed on the driver side. Incredibly underrated feature that I can dump over a gallon of washer fluid once the low indicator shows up (which apparently is also a Canadian thing).
Except for the fact that he says "actually" "actually""actually""actually""actually""actually""actually" every other word! I can't take him saying that so I mute the sound on his overviews.
As someone who autocrosses my 2019 SI. I would've rather wanted to see a slightly longer gearing. In autocrossing I find myself shifting to 3rd gear often. Second gear tops out at 57mph. There is a lot more time to be gained by saving the second to third gear shift. Could probably get under 6 seconds to 60mph.
To this day I still don't understand why people still complain about colors, interior, etc. Its 2019 you can wrap a car to whatever color u want. And the interior u have to remember the price range of the car, u can't except luxury. Its a fun cheap car to drive.
I own a 2018 Si sedan with a greddy catback eibach lowering springs, a prl cobra cold air intake, and I’m on the tap stage 1 tune making about 300 wheel torque I’ve taken to many track days and can confirm it’s a great car
@@fzr1000981 it is a problem but in cold weather areas but even then it can be fixed by changing the oil every 5k miles. Its a good car and its definitely a different type of car compared to the k series engines.
No problems so far and yes I looked into oil dilution issues, it used to occur if user is in a cold climate and does trips too short to warm engine so as a floridian not concerned too much, still haven't done power mods, how's the clutch, trans hold up I have a 20 si with 10k
I bought a 2020 civic si coupe in pearl white, and I LOVE IT! The amount of SAFE power you can get with JUST tuning, is crazy. I believe this car will be the used car teen enthusiasts will love, even more than the frs, gti, and maybe the wrx.
That’s a nice way of putting it. The Si or any current civic put the ILX to shame since it’s still the previous gen civic platform with zero added features or updates.
i think they should dump the Si sedan and make a hatch Si. All i see are Hatch civics. I have two kids and id love a hatch Si since a type R is not in my cards now.
@@bloopbloop2019 Of course, there's always that cost difference also. In my case, my kids would rather have food in their mouth than the Type R in the driveway.
Me and my wife looked at getting an Si for her but we settled on a 2018 Civic Sport Hatchback 6MT. We’ve absolutely been 100% happy with it. It’s nimble, it’s decently quick, and it’s fun to drive. Thanks for the review Soyfan! ✌🏼
@@EMed9423 Yea, I know. Some dealers still trying to get away with, especially with a first year low nunbered model, but where I an in NY for the most part you can walk into majority of Honda dealers and pay sticker for a brand new one. Which works in my favor, no volume knob on 16-17s is a dealbreaker for me lol
I have the 2019 sport hatch and I think it looks miles better than the Si and you’re only give up 25 hp lol. Once I get a tune I’ll be over the 205 that the Si has👌🏼
This is a great car for the price. I do wish the hatchback was avalible in the SI trim. I love that LED headlamps are on here finally. I think you hit it on the head with pointing put there is not as big of a jump in power and acceleration between the standard Civic and SI and there was in the prior gen and its NA engine options
That intro shoot of the Civic making a right turn 0:49 is in Glendale California. I know because my office is on that street. Those Apartments are almost $3000 for rent for a 1 bedroom apartment.
@@J-W.- my 2018 si definitely has the oil dilution issue. Honda even extended the warranty to 6 years because they can't fix it after a software update.
And what about the AC problem, did they finally fix that? 2016-2018 Civics had bad AC systems, so Honda granted an extended warranty but dealers often claim it was normal wear and tear.
Aesthetically I found it really helped to get the red HFP mats and an after market flat bottom wheel, as well as some carbon fiber interior accessories.
With about $2500 - $3000 in upgrades you can achieve about 315 WHP. Thats more then the type R. So get a used 17 Si for 21K, get the mods and you’re still under 25K. I have spent about $1600 in mods and I’m pushing 280 WHP and i love it.
Rich Racing oh yeah no definitely, i just dont like the hatch look. In addition, i have yet to see a type priced for what it should be, they’re all up selling the price.
I'm glad you always floor these cars and show the Potential buyer what they really want to see.... everyone really wants to know, "Will it haul ass??"........
I have the 2019 SI the only thing I wish my car had is the LED headlights everything else I'm cool with on my car. Lol just a ktuner 2.5" exhaust & K&N drop in filter that's all I need, woke it up quite a bit.
Get a PRL cold air intake. Look it up. Best intake in the market plus it add a great sound when letting go off the throttle. I have it on my 2018 and it's great
I have a 2019 sedan. Love it! I love the space and how it handles. Only hit I give it is the lack of leather/premium interior upgrade and power. But I got a ktuner and no mods with tsp tune makes this si the car it should've been off the dealership. With that tune u can say baby type R for sure!
Yup... Exactly. Mazda interior is done right! But lack the sport power. I came out of a Mazdaspeed 3. Man if they made a speed 3 of this current Mazda. I would trade my car in
@@thelitemaster I would suggest to never buy out a lease, period. You're paying for a car for 8 years, you'll never get in the black, aside from a few exceptions to the rule. Sock some money away during your lease, and finance out a brand new one at the end of the term.
Not having leather is a bonus. Leather being used today is super cheap and does not wear well. Cloth seats will actually wear and age better compared to leather seats with the same mileage/age.
dude leather suuucks in the winter too. i'm so used to my 18 si cloth that when i got into someone's leather car after sitting overnight in 40 degrees it was harsh
Yup I used to have an Acura tl type s that had leather seats. They would burn my legs in the summer then in the winter the would be so cold I would refuse to sit on them until the heated seats got warm enough. I have just a normal Honda civic ex coupe now and aside from it being manual the cloth seats have to be my favorite part about the switch. They never get cold or hot! They just exist and its great!!
if Honda's not going to add a dct to the Si then reduce the rev-hang and add auto rev-matching for the newbies to manual. the new cheaper manual corolla have auto rev-matching.
The best thing about the Elantra Sport is that Kia offers a better looking alternative on the same platform, the Forte GT. Hyundai ruined the Elantra Sport in 2019. Not sure what they were thinking.
I'm guessing they wanted people to move up to the Sonata. Its polarizing too but at least it doesn't scream "I'M AN ECONOMY CAR!" like the new Elantra.
I bought a 2017 Si sedan when they first came out. It is a decent performer and gets exceptional gas mileage -- typically get 45mpg on trips. The Si replaced a 2005 S2000 and I consider it a reasonable compromise that is more pleasant to drive on trips and fits my TREK bicycle in the back with the front wheel off. I regret that they changed the final drive because the current ratio puts the car at 3000 rpm at 80 and the mileage is a bonus as opposed to a marginal performance increase which I don't need. I was disappointed by the local Honda dealer's service at 30K miles. They tried to sell me a service which included BG additives that pushed the basic Honda required cost of $550.00 to over $800.00. I the think the basic Honda service is way overpriced at $550.00. I have not experienced the oil dilution problem, but live in a hot climate which may make the difference. Honda sent me a letter which extended the warrant of affect engine items to 6 years with unlimited mileage. Thd SI is a performance bargain in my opinion.
My 20 is 3000 rpm at 75mph, a little difference, I went out of a sequoia so the fuel is fine at about 39 on long trips, cold climate and short trips affect dilution so if that's not the case we should be fine, I'm in Florida, cold temps not a concern
@@Xainlrd Have you seen the hp and tq numbers this car is putting out on the stock block?? Plenty of people running 270+ whp and 300+ wtq with just a few bolt ons, flex fuel and a tune. Past 350whp seems to be the danger zone for the stock rods on this engine if you get a bad tune. But there are still some people running over 400whp on stock block. Do some research, you'll be surprised what this engine is capable of
@@alansmilealot Pretty much anyone who upgrades the turbo and gets a professional tune raises the redline to 7000rpm with no issues. th-cam.com/video/xNohJ2hJ2M0/w-d-xo.html
The SI gets my attention, but the fact that you can get a Type R for not a lot more (provided they still aren't getting massively marked up) makes this car a moot point. A crappy infotainment system also hurts. As compared to the GTI or GLI, those are better deals if you can accept the lower reliability of any German car. Plus the passenger visor isn't capable of moving and VW also decided that the power button icon moves with the knob.
The UK gets parking sensors and all kinds of little things we didn't get. Electric folding mirrors, rear fog lights, 1.0 turbo, 1.5 turbo, and a 1.8 diesel, plus the 2.0 NA. Lots of tiny little options we didn't get.
We always get screwed in the states. I spent 2 years searching out a low miles black '20 sedan cause the 11thgen was missing so many options the Canadian one has
I have an 8th gen si, and I love it. Revving it to hell and back still makes me giddy. But for this model's base price I'd definitely check out a WRX. For the same amount of money, you get a more powerful and spacious car.
Unlike most younger people, I don't really care if a car has all the latest whiz-bang electronic entertainment. My cars must be, fun-to-drive, economical, comfortable and reliable. I think this car meets all of my requirements.
Nice video. One thing...you might consider replacing the camera that hangs down between the front seats facing forward...it can't handle the dynamic range in lighting between the interior/dash and the outside world thru the windshield...the outside world just gets blown out quite frequently. Anyway, something to think about. Not sure what sensor size would handle that, but you could start at micro four thirds. But in any case, content is king and you are doing a great job with good content.
The turbo is cool tbh. VTEC is special for sure along with the high revving engine. Not having to rev your engine out to the top to make power is also nice. I would say test drive an Si and you might actually be surprised.
I just bought mine 2018 Civic hatchback EX-T. I also tried Mazda 3 Hatch back, after testing both cars, I went for the Civic. Civic hatchback has Good resale value... I still like Mazda 3 Hatch back over many other cars...
I've had mine for 10 thousand miles already it's a great family car ,mines a sedan, if I didn't need the back seat as much the coupe looks great and it's the last year for it ,rims exhaust and a small sub and it's the envy of coworkers with brand new trucks costing twice as much
Where the hell did you get 20psi from? These make 14 from the factory on a good day. Tuning it will get you 20psi. Or a CAI with an Intercooler will grant you 18psi untuned. If this had 20psi it would be running like 250+ tq and around 220whp.
Honda confirmed this will be the final year for the manual transmission for all Honda civics (except type r). It is being replaced in the Si with a DCT from the ILX.
Like the black wheels on the coupe a lot. It’s not beautiful but at least it’s not ridiculous looking either. I test drove one of these 2020 and it’s super fun and a real deal.
However, functionally speaking, the hp difference (174 vs 180) between the base turbo and sport hatchback turbo doesn't feel significant in the slightest, notably, the official torque figures between the cvt turbos are exactly the same at 162 lb-ft. Particularly in comparison to the the turbo sedans (excepting the sport touring) due to their overall lower weight. The difference between the other hatchbacks are a bit more pronounced but 0-60 times are pretty comparable between pretty much all of the 1.5L turbo civics (minus the higher-trim versions and the SI of course) .
They should make the Civic Si have around 225 Hp and torque release a Civic Type R Lite with around 280 then refresh the top tier type R with around 330 if kept FWD or 370 if changed to AWD. This is just my wish lol not reality. Im just saying for someone like me The type R is a little over the top and expensive while the Si is a little underpowered with no vtec.
I’ll take usable low end torque with the turbo that runs to 6800 rather than an engine where you never feel as hard a pull with lower torque that comes at higher rpm’s.
2020 Si is the best!! Got one in December. Love the new rims and other upgrades (especially Honda Sensing). My buddy has an 18’ Si, and my 20’ looks so much better! The rims are a huge difference that I love the mat black. Who wouldn’t? The old rims are weird
Old civic si had this raw growl through the rev band. Now it sounds like my ninja blender. I dont know honda should stick to their roots. Let VW and other companies do the turbos.
I have a 2014 black si. The refreshed 9th gen w the 2.4l. I really really like this new refreshed 2020 especially in this red (probably white too, black would look too blacked out), however I don't think I could trade it in for this due to the fact that the k24 is such a fun and naturally amazing sounding engine. It revs higher and has a more fun powerband too. But damn, this car looks nice...
They should have bumped the power to 250hp with a 2.0L turbo and I would have bought it. I was really disappointed that the HP hasn't changed since they last generation. That was the reason I went with a WRX.
It's sad that manufacturers nowadays overdo it with downsizing. The Si looks nicer than the Type R even with the rear wing that is clearly better off on a bigger car.
I always see an HDMI port when I see the exhaust of these Civics.
Brunark or those Android charging ports.
You plug your tv in to see whats happening inside the engine, that’s the purpose of it
All the round things you must imagine when you see a round exhaust. Dizzying.
And lunch tray looking rear bumper accents
I pointed that out to my wife and she can’t unsee it now
Thank you Honda for providing manual transmission
A red Honda for a Redline Review.
Yet no Redline score? Still a great review as usual though.
Witty!
can never unsee it now lmao
I love my 2017 Civic Si! The price to performance ratio can’t be beat. The amount of car you get at this price is incredible.
Wow 2 vids in one morning? This is going to be a fun lunch hour of videos! Thanks Sofyan!
In Canada we had the LED headlights since the beginning. I find it weird that in the US it was only on the Touring and Type R models
And I prefer the wheels before this model year but the only thing that bugs me is that the Touring had the same wheels as the Si for 2019
William Saad We also get Heated rear seats, built in Navigation, built in wireless charger and a spare tire usually Canadian Honda’s are usually better equipped even our CRV gets a panoramic sunroof
I ain't from Canada but ik alot of teens
f181234 This I didn’t know. Pretty surprised
@@williamsaad6833 I drive a 17 Canadian Si and it fascinates me how different the Canadian version is this generation.
The differences are actually summed up in that the US model is based on an Ex-T, where the Canadian Si was a touring model with the safety sensors removed. The actual reasoning iirc was that civics are significantly more popular in canada and they have to add in a little more value to keep it relevant up here.
also fun fact, Canadian civics in general have a 2x larger windshield washer tank and is placed on the driver side. Incredibly underrated feature that I can dump over a gallon of washer fluid once the low indicator shows up (which apparently is also a Canadian thing).
Sofyan is a good commentator , I really enjoy his reviews
I always read his name like Soy Fan. Maybe he is one. That would be cool
I like it when a Car has more acceleration than he thought it would have and he screams like a little girl!!
Except for the fact that he says "actually" "actually""actually""actually""actually""actually""actually" every other word! I can't take him saying that so I mute the sound on his overviews.
As someone who autocrosses my 2019 SI. I would've rather wanted to see a slightly longer gearing. In autocrossing I find myself shifting to 3rd gear often. Second gear tops out at 57mph. There is a lot more time to be gained by saving the second to third gear shift. Could probably get under 6 seconds to 60mph.
To this day I still don't understand why people still complain about colors, interior, etc. Its 2019 you can wrap a car to whatever color u want. And the interior u have to remember the price range of the car, u can't except luxury. Its a fun cheap car to drive.
A good wrap isn't exactly cheap you know.
@@user-gm4kv2my4u true but just a figure of speech
For adaptive cruise control the shifter should move by itself 😂
Lmao ghost shifting
Ya we should call it an automatic! Because it automatically shifts!
I own a 2018 Si sedan with a greddy catback eibach lowering springs, a prl cobra cold air intake, and I’m on the tap stage 1 tune making about 300 wheel torque I’ve taken to many track days and can confirm it’s a great car
Your oil dilution must be crazy, hope you get it analyzed
@@fzr1000981 it is a problem but in cold weather areas but even then it can be fixed by changing the oil every 5k miles. Its a good car and its definitely a different type of car compared to the k series engines.
@@kevfig4114 would you suggest changing it lower than 5k miles? Just curious. I drive a 90s vehicle so I'm used to changing sooner lol.
No problems so far and yes I looked into oil dilution issues, it used to occur if user is in a cold climate and does trips too short to warm engine so as a floridian not concerned too much, still haven't done power mods, how's the clutch, trans hold up I have a 20 si with 10k
I wish they would make a fit type r. Like what the straightpipes showed in their fit sport video
You could just buy a sport, and tune it.
They actually are making a fit type r BUT only for Japan. Who knows if it'll release outside of Japan let alone the USA.
@@3FreddyKrueger Another JDM we have to wait for 25 years
@@3FreddyKrueger doubt it'll come here since the base fit isn't even coming to the US :/
@@jordanrosenberg9816 I blame the people that want a Honda Odyssey type r instead of something light and nimble
I bought a 2020 civic si coupe in pearl white, and I LOVE IT! The amount of SAFE power you can get with JUST tuning, is crazy. I believe this car will be the used car teen enthusiasts will love, even more than the frs, gti, and maybe the wrx.
I got mine because there is nothing more enjoyable as a daily for the price, blue sedan but the coupe looks better, have kids need the doors
"ILX is an Si in Acura drag" 😂
...from a 2013 Civic...
Yesss
@Viet Nguyen not for the ilx
That’s a nice way of putting it. The Si or any current civic put the ILX to shame since it’s still the previous gen civic platform with zero added features or updates.
ILX is whack just go for the TLX SH-AWD V6. Solid car
i think they should dump the Si sedan and make a hatch Si. All i see are Hatch civics. I have two kids and id love a hatch Si since a type R is not in my cards now.
I like the sedan better, but I do think they should add a hatch Si.
Be a cool dad and get the R. Your kids will get alot of chicks when you drop them off at school. 😎
@@bloopbloop2019
Of course, there's always that cost difference also. In my case, my kids would rather have food in their mouth than the Type R in the driveway.
I agree the sedan looks ugly so a hatch si would look good
Get a Hyundai Veloster N. It's $10,000 cheaper.
I like the quietness of the stock exhaust without drawing attention when you want to step on it.
Me and my wife looked at getting an Si for her but we settled on a 2018 Civic Sport Hatchback 6MT. We’ve absolutely been 100% happy with it. It’s nimble, it’s decently quick, and it’s fun to drive. Thanks for the review Soyfan! ✌🏼
I wish that type R came in a two-door. I'd turn an si into a type r if I was a youtuber.
The engine sounds really good inside the car. This despite the fact it's a turbo charged 4 cyl.
It's fake sound
Only $25,000, the price is perfect! Type R $36K, out of reach most of people
This is the most sexual tension I've ever seen in a car review.
extra 10 grand for the type R okay, maybe used with 15k miles
Silverstone AP2 it wouldn’t take too much to hit 3’s in these
They're going for sticker now, the mark up is done.
@@jayprimo Thank god. I remember the 2017s were going for 40-50k
@@EMed9423 Yea, I know. Some dealers still trying to get away with, especially with a first year low nunbered model, but where I an in NY for the most part you can walk into majority of Honda dealers and pay sticker for a brand new one.
Which works in my favor, no volume knob on 16-17s is a dealbreaker for me lol
Jay Primo exactly. I can’t justify the hikes up price. I would rather get a civic and out in 10k and call it a day then an extra 5k for a type R
The HDMI exhaust is a turn off. I wish Honda would add a dual or quad exhaust
Webster Kollie I was thinking the same thing. Looks really ugly in the back
Agree to disagree
I have the 2019 sport hatch and I think it looks miles better than the Si and you’re only give up 25 hp lol. Once I get a tune I’ll be over the 205 that the Si has👌🏼
Steal the tips from a Sport hatch, yo.
Or you could give it a single exhaust off the side since giving it a quad or dual would be overkill and Y style pipes are pretty... idk fake ?
The only turn off for me is the super heavy flywheel that makes the Revs hang on as you up shift.
Still not as bad as the WRX and other lower prices vehicles
This is a great car for the price. I do wish the hatchback was avalible in the SI trim. I love that LED headlamps are on here finally. I think you hit it on the head with pointing put there is not as big of a jump in power and acceleration between the standard Civic and SI and there was in the prior gen and its NA engine options
That intro shoot of the Civic making a right turn 0:49 is in Glendale California. I know because my office is on that street. Those Apartments are almost $3000 for rent for a 1 bedroom apartment.
Cali and NYC very similar pricing on apartments huh? Lol.
My *mortgage* is 2400, with taxes 🤣
Same turbo chargrd 1.5 L as the CRV, and the CRV has the oil dilution problem.
Honestly I think it's just CRV problem honestly havent heard any owners having it with Civic.
@@J-W.- my 2018 si definitely has the oil dilution issue. Honda even extended the warranty to 6 years because they can't fix it after a software update.
And what about the AC problem, did they finally fix that? 2016-2018 Civics had bad AC systems, so Honda granted an extended warranty but dealers often claim it was normal wear and tear.
To eliminate rev hang: simply drop off the throttle earlier and wait and extra quarter second to put in the clutch and viola!, No rev hang.
Aesthetically I found it really helped to get the red HFP mats and an after market flat bottom wheel, as well as some carbon fiber interior accessories.
Just get the HFP trim it’s all round better and extra engine stuff
What I want is the Type R in the Coupé body style. The Si still doesn't quite have the zip I'm after and the hatch body on the R is just U G L Y.
With about $2500 - $3000 in upgrades you can achieve about 315 WHP. Thats more then the type R. So get a used 17 Si for 21K, get the mods and you’re still under 25K. I have spent about $1600 in mods and I’m pushing 280 WHP and i love it.
@@pigeon1519 you can tune a type r too. The motor is better in the type-r also.
Rich Racing oh yeah no definitely, i just dont like the hatch look. In addition, i have yet to see a type priced for what it should be, they’re all up selling the price.
pigeon151 how that stock clutch holding up. Heard the stock clutch on these start to slip after 20psi lol
I'm glad you always floor these cars and show the Potential buyer what they really want to see.... everyone really wants to know, "Will it haul ass??"........
I have the 2019 SI the only thing I wish my car had is the LED headlights everything else I'm cool with on my car. Lol just a ktuner 2.5" exhaust & K&N drop in filter that's all I need, woke it up quite a bit.
George R you can get pnp led touring units from theretrofitsource.com
@@eddiemcars ill check it out. Thank u bro
Get a PRL cold air intake. Look it up. Best intake in the market plus it add a great sound when letting go off the throttle. I have it on my 2018 and it's great
If you want the best bang for your buck performance modification, invest in Hondata Flashpro. Thank me later
I have a 2019 sedan. Love it! I love the space and how it handles. Only hit I give it is the lack of leather/premium interior upgrade and power. But I got a ktuner and no mods with tsp tune makes this si the car it should've been off the dealership. With that tune u can say baby type R for sure!
Its a 24k car. You cant expect much in terms on interior quality at that price point
I like the 2019 much better with the exception of the LED headlights.
@@zatharos6427
Tell Mazda that, they would disagree.
Yup... Exactly. Mazda interior is done right! But lack the sport power. I came out of a Mazdaspeed 3. Man if they made a speed 3 of this current Mazda. I would trade my car in
WB Wayne if you’re talking about the Mazda3, its a brand new model what did you expect lol
I have been waiting for this 2020 review thanks
The Civic Si has better long-term resale value than the GLI, so that’s something to consider!
Would you consider doing a buyout on this at the end of lease?
@@thelitemaster I would suggest to never buy out a lease, period. You're paying for a car for 8 years, you'll never get in the black, aside from a few exceptions to the rule.
Sock some money away during your lease, and finance out a brand new one at the end of the term.
Not having leather is a bonus. Leather being used today is super cheap and does not wear well. Cloth seats will actually wear and age better compared to leather seats with the same mileage/age.
I forgot about the car once Clint showed up 🥳🙈
why do people like leather??? its feels weird and burns in the summer..
dude leather suuucks in the winter too. i'm so used to my 18 si cloth that when i got into someone's leather car after sitting overnight in 40 degrees it was harsh
It looks nice i guess
Yup I used to have an Acura tl type s that had leather seats. They would burn my legs in the summer then in the winter the would be so cold I would refuse to sit on them until the heated seats got warm enough. I have just a normal Honda civic ex coupe now and aside from it being manual the cloth seats have to be my favorite part about the switch. They never get cold or hot! They just exist and its great!!
Easier to clean and doesn't absorb dust
@@streetdemons991 i respect it. i just dont like getting burned, i dont mind a lil dust Xp
if Honda's not going to add a dct to the Si then reduce the rev-hang and add auto rev-matching for the newbies to manual. the new cheaper manual corolla have auto rev-matching.
Looking for Type-R performance in a Civic Si. I can’t believe this guy is a car reviewer.
The best thing about the Elantra Sport is that Kia offers a better looking alternative on the same platform, the Forte GT. Hyundai ruined the Elantra Sport in 2019. Not sure what they were thinking.
I'm guessing they wanted people to move up to the Sonata. Its polarizing too but at least it doesn't scream "I'M AN ECONOMY CAR!" like the new Elantra.
@@user-gm4kv2my4u
The new 2020 Sonata looks really amazing. You could be right.
Honestly.... I kinda want one as my long term daily. I'm fed up with how expensive cars are these days.
DUDE. Did you guys get these intro shots or was that Honda? If y'all did it, it's fly af
Keep fighting the good fight to save the manual transmission!
The exhaust looks like a phone charging port.
xlasvegan7x those Android ones 😂😂😂😂
lol
more like HDMI port
I have a 19 si sedan,. I have a lot of complaints, but none of them are about the driving dynamics. Cars a blast and outhandles $40k cars.
I bought a 2017 Si sedan when they first came out. It is a decent performer and gets exceptional gas mileage -- typically get 45mpg on trips. The Si replaced a 2005 S2000 and I consider it a reasonable compromise that is more pleasant to drive on trips and fits my TREK bicycle in the back with the front wheel off. I regret that they changed the final drive because the current ratio puts the car at 3000 rpm at 80 and the mileage is a bonus as opposed to a marginal performance increase which I don't need. I was disappointed by the local Honda dealer's service at 30K miles. They tried to sell me a service which included BG additives that pushed the basic Honda required cost of $550.00 to over $800.00. I the think the basic Honda service is way overpriced at $550.00. I have not experienced the oil dilution problem, but live in a hot climate which may make the difference. Honda sent me a letter which extended the warrant of affect engine items to 6 years with unlimited mileage. Thd SI is a performance bargain in my opinion.
My 20 is 3000 rpm at 75mph, a little difference, I went out of a sequoia so the fuel is fine at about 39 on long trips, cold climate and short trips affect dilution so if that's not the case we should be fine, I'm in Florida, cold temps not a concern
It being a Honda I'm sure you can get a hondata tune to raise the rev limit and up the hp greatly
Tae G true, and blow up the puny 1.5l engine in no time.
@@Xainlrd Have you seen the hp and tq numbers this car is putting out on the stock block?? Plenty of people running 270+ whp and 300+ wtq with just a few bolt ons, flex fuel and a tune.
Past 350whp seems to be the danger zone for the stock rods on this engine if you get a bad tune. But there are still some people running over 400whp on stock block.
Do some research, you'll be surprised what this engine is capable of
@@darkknight097 doesn't raising the redline without any head work risk a chance of valve float and some other things?
@@alansmilealot Pretty much anyone who upgrades the turbo and gets a professional tune raises the redline to 7000rpm with no issues.
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Extra 50hp would help greatly.
The SI gets my attention, but the fact that you can get a Type R for not a lot more (provided they still aren't getting massively marked up) makes this car a moot point. A crappy infotainment system also hurts. As compared to the GTI or GLI, those are better deals if you can accept the lower reliability of any German car. Plus the passenger visor isn't capable of moving and VW also decided that the power button icon moves with the knob.
Is there any talk of making the Type R in the 2door coupe?
They should I like the look of the si coupe better then the type r
5:01 obviously looks better with the center exhaust rather than the maxi pad "diffuser" of lesser models
This is a pretty good buy! Great reviews Sofyan! Nice to see you have a passenger with you! Makes it even more fun!!!
Honda should have kept the high revving na engine, which is what the Si has always been known for. This is just disappointing.
The UK gets parking sensors and all kinds of little things we didn't get. Electric folding mirrors, rear fog lights, 1.0 turbo, 1.5 turbo, and a 1.8 diesel, plus the 2.0 NA. Lots of tiny little options we didn't get.
We always get screwed in the states. I spent 2 years searching out a low miles black '20 sedan cause the 11thgen was missing so many options the Canadian one has
I miss the sound of my old neon SRT4 😩🥰, even in stock form it sounded like a beast.
Civic Sport Hatch 6mt life! haha. Love the Si though, I just need that hatch space.
Cloth is sooooooooooooo much better than leather anyway.
I have an 8th gen si, and I love it. Revving it to hell and back still makes me giddy. But for this model's base price I'd definitely check out a WRX. For the same amount of money, you get a more powerful and spacious car.
Unlike most younger people, I don't really care if a car has all the latest whiz-bang electronic entertainment. My cars must be, fun-to-drive, economical, comfortable and reliable. I think this car meets all of my requirements.
Nice video. One thing...you might consider replacing the camera that hangs down between the front seats facing forward...it can't handle the dynamic range in lighting between the interior/dash and the outside world thru the windshield...the outside world just gets blown out quite frequently. Anyway, something to think about. Not sure what sensor size would handle that, but you could start at micro four thirds. But in any case, content is king and you are doing a great job with good content.
I'm trying to like the new civics but that lack of VTEC transition @ high revs just feels incomplete.
The turbo is cool tbh. VTEC is special for sure along with the high revving engine. Not having to rev your engine out to the top to make power is also nice. I would say test drive an Si and you might actually be surprised.
Why no hatchback version of the Si?
They wanted to differentiate from the R
In canada, the Civic Si actually comes standard with wireless charging, so haha Sofyan!
really?
Wireless charging isn’t standard, you pay extra for it, there was two at the dealership one with and one without. I got the one with
i would love a 250hp Si, would keep it at least competitive in todays market.
Nice video, I love how Clint from Motor One. Is consisting Soyfan that Honda did not s*** the bed with thia version of the Si. It made me chuckle.
I’ll be glad when the black alloy wheel trend ends.
What u want chrome 22inch spinners to come back?
I just bought mine 2018 Civic hatchback EX-T. I also tried Mazda 3 Hatch back, after testing both cars, I went for the Civic. Civic hatchback has Good resale value... I still like Mazda 3 Hatch back over many other cars...
Been waiting for this review
i would love this interior with the typer r engine/drivetrain. simple and clean without the over the top red bits
I've had mine for 10 thousand miles already it's a great family car ,mines a sedan, if I didn't need the back seat as much the coupe looks great and it's the last year for it ,rims exhaust and a small sub and it's the envy of coworkers with brand new trucks costing twice as much
The voiceover with the techno is next level
Where the hell did you get 20psi from? These make 14 from the factory on a good day. Tuning it will get you 20psi. Or a CAI with an Intercooler will grant you 18psi untuned. If this had 20psi it would be running like 250+ tq and around 220whp.
Joe Osborne, Honda claims 20psi but yeah it never reaches that, not even close.
As long as it is a manual transmission then we’re good.
Honda confirmed this will be the final year for the manual transmission for all Honda civics (except type r). It is being replaced in the Si with a DCT from the ILX.
Dolphins101 I hope you’re are joking 🙃
@@almightyretrosoul I'm not. CTR will get a DCT next year with a refresh so manuals will no longer be sold in any Honda as of 2021 model year
Dolphins101 I guess I am doomed to deal with unreliable cars with semi decent transmissions😪 I guess I shall buy cars new because used DCTs are shit.
@@ormand3000 Do you have a source? Honda's manual take rates have been increasing on the Civic.
Refer to Car and Driver article called Weeder Car for results on acceleration times due to the 2020 final drive change. Not what one would expect.
These cars with a tune are really a lot more fun to drive.
The Honda Civic Si is really sweet. It is interesting how fun it is 👍
Like the black wheels on the coupe a lot. It’s not beautiful but at least it’s not ridiculous looking either. I test drove one of these 2020 and it’s super fun and a real deal.
Just bought a 2020 love it.
I hate the red seats and the HDMI port. I do like the new wheels but I liked the old ones too.
An SI hatchback sporting the dual round exhaust tips would be the cats meow....
Previous gen si was 2015. No si for 2016.
Glad I am not the only one who caught that.
So in order of power it goes like this? Regular Honda Civic
not quite, its NA civics (including the sport sedan and coupe which are NA)
However, functionally speaking, the hp difference (174 vs 180) between the base turbo and sport hatchback turbo doesn't feel significant in the slightest, notably, the official torque figures between the cvt turbos are exactly the same at 162 lb-ft. Particularly in comparison to the the turbo sedans (excepting the sport touring) due to their overall lower weight. The difference between the other hatchbacks are a bit more pronounced but 0-60 times are pretty comparable between pretty much all of the 1.5L turbo civics (minus the higher-trim versions and the SI of course) .
@@videosurfer268 thanks for the info.
@@aseeds7785 Np! Hope it helped! :)
Ive owned a few si’s and never noticed power increase with vtec. So glad they went with turbo
They should make the Civic Si have around 225 Hp and torque release a Civic Type R Lite with around 280 then refresh the top tier type R with around 330 if kept FWD or 370 if changed to AWD. This is just my wish lol not reality. Im just saying for someone like me The type R is a little over the top and expensive while the Si is a little underpowered with no vtec.
Makes sense to me Galctic Maui.
Stoked about my SI, there is an android auto upgrade and wireless charger available now.
Like the rims. I have a WRX but do miss the shifter from the SI
Honda has the best manuals in the business, hands down.
I’ll take usable low end torque with the turbo that runs to 6800 rather than an engine where you never feel as hard a pull
with lower torque that comes at higher rpm’s.
This man always wants to “find out” things. Lmao
2020 Si is the best!! Got one in December. Love the new rims and other upgrades (especially Honda Sensing). My buddy has an 18’ Si, and my 20’ looks so much better! The rims are a huge difference that I love the mat black. Who wouldn’t? The old rims are weird
Wish they did the SI in a hatchback,...too bad.
Yep. This 1000x over. I'd buy one today
Old civic si had this raw growl through the rev band. Now it sounds like my ninja blender. I dont know honda should stick to their roots. Let VW and other companies do the turbos.
MrNick98 for real,they went from a 2.4 k24 to a freaking 1.5🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️, basically a Honda Fit with a small turbo lol
I have a 2014 black si. The refreshed 9th gen w the 2.4l. I really really like this new refreshed 2020 especially in this red (probably white too, black would look too blacked out), however I don't think I could trade it in for this due to the fact that the k24 is such a fun and naturally amazing sounding engine. It revs higher and has a more fun powerband too. But damn, this car looks nice...
Emissions emissions emissions
@@jamesreilly3058 the k24 was an exceptionally efficient engine
Brett Griffith I’m referring to emissions not efficiency.
They should have bumped the power to 250hp with a 2.0L turbo and I would have bought it. I was really disappointed that the HP hasn't changed since they last generation. That was the reason I went with a WRX.
Bumped up 5hp but dropped it with new model 😂
Clint is bae
Great review and dialog. Almost bought your ILX...
I actually like the look of the Si EXCEPT for the terrible fake vents and cheap interior
Honda underrated the power... its actually close to 200HP to the wheels... and torque is even higher...
I have a 2020 SI and I have wireless charging, built in Navigation, and heated back seats
I rather the 8 gen fa5 and 9 gen fb6 and em1 best looking si and fun
It's sad that manufacturers nowadays overdo it with downsizing.
The Si looks nicer than the Type R even with the rear wing that is clearly better off on a bigger car.
Thinking about trading my 8th gen fa5 for a 10th gen coupe but I know I’ll miss that k20z3 and very high redline