Dyno Testing BC's Brand New Shell V-Power Nitro+ 93 & 91 Octane Fuels - 2022 Edition
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- I can't believe I'm saying this but I was back at Racing Greed for another fuel comparison! This time I was testing a brand new fuel from Shell. In this video I compare Shell's V-Power Nitro+ 93 & 91, Chevron 94 with 10% ethanol added to it, Chevron 94 and Chevron 91. I performed a minimum of 3 dyno pulls on each fuel to determine not only the horsepower & torque, but also to see the amount of ignition correction and peak timing advance. Hopefully this video helps all of those performance enthusiasts in the Lower Mainland, BC, Canada get more out of their cars.
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0:00 Intro
0:13 How I'll Be Testing The Fuels
02:51 Ethanol Contents Of All Fuels
03:20 Chevron 94 w/ 10% Ethanol Added
05:38 Shell 93 V-Power Nitro Plus
07:27 Shell 91 V-Power Nitro Plus
09:50 Chevron 94
12:36 Chevron 91
13:57 Summary of Best to Worst Performing Fuels
15:09 Conclusion
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I forgot to mention how these fuel samples were collected. I pumped out 10L of fuel into my vehicle prior to filling up the 20L jerry can. This prevented any contamination from the fuel that was being pumped out of the tanks by the previous customer. It ensured that whatever fuel I chose to select was the only fuel making its way into the jerry can. Please also keep in mind that these tests only pertain to the fuels we have here local to me in Vancouver, BC, Canada.
The standard vancity flush and fill…
@@bagelbandit6076 yup! I just needed to fill people in, incase they haven't watched any of my other fuel comparisons.
You're doing God's work, again. Love Shell 93!
Again..we are so fortunate to have you test the quality of the fuel in the Lower Mainland. The performance enthusiast community here is very grateful.
Glad I could be of assistance
Thanks for doing a detail test and sharing the results, we are so fortunate to have you :)
You're very welcome. Thanks for watching.
Thanks again for doing this , greatly appreciate your time and effort!! And big thanks to the shop and techs !
You're very welcome. Thanks for watching.
Thank you for forwarding your video to me! Appreciate the work, will help me decide that I can try IE tune stage1 93 octane on my GTI :)
You're welcome. If you need any help with more IE software or hardware on your GTI feel free to email me at adam@vancityaudi.com. We are an IE dealer at Reiter Performance in Abbotsford.
I was pleasantly surprised when i saw that NEW Shell 93 sticker at the pump yesterday. Filled my Stage 3 STI and the car runs noticeably better. Can definitely feel the torque bump. Haven't given er the beans yet because... too much snow on the ground hahaha
Thanks for the test. I've been running the Shell 93 here in Calgary for a while but nice to see the numbers.
Thank you for watching, but these tests have nothing to do with the fuel you get in Alberta.
Oh thanks for the heads up! @@VancityAudi
@@wiegraf9009no problemo
Great video, I use Petro Canada ultra 94, going to try the new Shell 93
Great test we will pass it onto our motorcycle friends! 👍
Thanks for your support!
Yesterday I put Shell 93 in my Lincoln navigator because I couldn’t find a chevron nearby while I was low on fuel. I noticed the car felt better than it was with chevron 94. I wanted to know if my butt dyno was right and did some search. Then I found your video perfectly answering my doubts. Thank you for putting all these effort in making those comparison videos!
The shell gas station is also newer with better electronics. I guess it will be shell 93 all the way for me in the future then!
Cheers from Vancouver.
You're welcome. Enjoy the better performance!
Thanks for doing another comparison! Makes me curious to compare USA Shell 92 vs Canadian Shell 93 now that I can go across the border. Guess I'll have to do some logs :)
You're welcome. Get on it and let us know how it goes!!!
Awesome Video! Clearly showcases that not all fuels are the same. I've always used shell fuels!
Thank you!
Thank you for putting in the time to do this again. Chevron 94 seems like a scam now in comparison to Shell's new 93 octane.
You're welcome. I agree. Shell 93 seems like the very first solid fuel option we've ever had.
@@VancityAudi Would Chevron 92 from Washington be better than Shell's 93?
@@user-pu3cf9pd2m I'd imagine that now a days they'd be pretty close
@@VancityAudi my tuned Cruze hatch runs better on chevron 94 and esso 91 vs shell 93 in the mainland. They both say no ethanol but the new shell pumps don’t say if they have it. I think that’s the main reason for more hp and smoother engine
@@alexchavigny9079 you say it "runs better." Have you datalogged the car to actually prove that or are you just going by the "seat of your pants" feel? Shell 93 has up to 10% ethanol like I mention in this video. That provides additional performance. Both Chevron 94 and Esso 91 are ethanol free fuels and do not offer the same level of performance.
I just saw 10whp difference across the board between chevron 94 and shell 93 in my NA K20 beetle on Evolutions dyno yesterday. This Shell 93 is amazing.
Isn't it awesome!?
So net net one of the best mods you can make to your Audi is a good quality gasoline. Appreciate you doing this, it's fascinating to see the difference in fuel quality for these motors.
You're welcome. It's not just this motor though. I did my previous fuel comparison videos with a different motor experiencing similar loses with the fuel that had worse knock resistance.
Hello 👋 I’m new here! 😊 the video was very informative & interesting. 😊I use Shell fuel or The Kirkland (Costco) brand only ! Both are Top Tier brands!
This video is almost 2 years old now. Here's the most recent one: th-cam.com/video/cQatNyPYuCI/w-d-xo.html
These are amazing man, I always wondered about our gas.
holy shit you're testing e85 + 94 chevron which is exactly what I've been doing. you're a legend.
🤣 thanks. I now use Shell 93 mixed with additional E100.
@@VancityAudi Yeah I think I'm gonna have to switch too. I went out and bought an octane booster after this (Northside was closed lol) and confirmed I'm definitely octane limited.
Ethanol is definitely the cheaper option, the VP racing lead based booster is like $30 and it might leave deposits
@@30YearOldBunta it'll destroy your plugs. Please don't use an octane booster.
@@VancityAudi yep I just found that out the hard way. So you prefer shell with ethanol over Chevron 94 with ethanol?
Man I love it when you do these fuel comparisons they are always a blast although I’m super disappointed we didn’t have Petro ultra 94 in this one as it is pretty much just about the only premium fuel available in Alberta these days and if memory serves I think it took second place on your last comparison so I was a little surprised to see it is missing.
And I’ll never forget the original why the video was done to squash the stupid mess that I also investigated myself many years ago between shell 91 husky 94 and petro ultra 94. I had fools constantly telling me shell 91 was better back then but all of my testing proved otherwise. I had way more detonation and timing correction with shell 91 it wasn’t even close the other two were fairly close in the comparison. And husky 94 outperformed ultra by a smidge which is why I have been using it all of these years until last year when Husky 94 was discontinued and I switched to Petro ultra 94. I really hope this new shell 93 fuel shows up in Alberta.
Thank you for watching. I'm sorry to disappoint, but as I've mentioned countless times before these fuel tests and comparison have nothing to do with Alberta fuel. They will not test the same as what we see here in the Lower Mainland. These tests are specific to our local fuels.
@@VancityAudi no I read you man but I’m sure they aren’t radically different though just one province over where lots of fuels are made when comparing to the US guys and such, but yeah I understand the fuels are specific to your lower mainland area. I did miss your Petro Can 94 in this test because I do use that and I’m sure it’s very similar. I did my testing on my Jeep when it still had the stock 6.1 and a Vortech V3 blower originally.
Thx for the info as always.
@@GordonStudent the Petro Canada 94 I have tested in the past is 3.5 hours away from where I live. There is literally one station that sells it in all of BC and that's at Area 27 race track. That's why I won't be testing it again.
@@VancityAudi gotcha I didn’t realize it wasn’t as abundant as it is here that stuff you can get all over the place here Chevron not so much but there are a few spots in Edmonton. Calgary is spoiled they actually have a place that supplies E 85 at the pump at one location lol man I wish lol mind you I would have to upgrade my injectors, my fuel system can support it but not my injectors hopefully we get that new shell 93 stuff here that would be fantastic. Anyway not meaning to babble thanks again for the great video those are always a blast
Thanks Adam for doing this ….
You are very welcome
Great video! Good to see that Shell 93 being a more solid option than Chevron 94, especially considering the reward program (Air Miles is better than Journie) and app (Chevron does have an app in the US, but not here in Canada for some reason) advantages. I remember donating because I am curious to see the results and the campaign made sense to me. Thanks a lot!
Thank you for your contribution.
I gotta find a non ethanol 93 shell pump, the one in Richmond is ethanol now
@@30YearOldBunta Pretty sure all Shell 93 has ethanol now. The old Shell 91 was ethanol-free, but not anymore.
@@UnknownJinX yeah looks like it
Awesome - I was one of the first to donate - great to see this project come to fruition! Question: I have APR tune on 94 so I use Chevron. Is switching to Shell 93 a good idea?
APR doesn't make tunes for 94 octane fuel so you might be wrong there, haha. I imagine you're running a 93 octane tune. You should absolutely be switching from Chevron 94 to Shell 93 as proven by this video.
@@VancityAudi good to know! I was going off the info from previous seller. Can't wait to try the shell - just have a quarter tank of 94 to burn through first
@@brianthompson3342 if you're not exactly sure what's on the car for a rune, your best bet is to give the VIN to an APR dealer and they can tell you
Again thank you for the tests. I was wondering what is the Nitro+93 RON and MON. From Shell response I got years and years ago, in the NCR, Shell Canada said their 91 Nitro+ was 99 RON and 86 MON, witch, is over 92 Octane. And Petro-Can (Ultra94) the MON was 101.5 and 88 MON, witch is also over 94 Octane. The main difference, and I test it, the Ethanol content was about 0.5% for the Shell 91 Nitro and 10% Ethanol for the Petro.-Can. Cheers and merci beaucoup.
You're very welcome. Thanks for watching
Thank you for doing these videos/tests! Is there any demand for testing mid tier octane fuels given how high gas prices are in Van these days?
Not really. I performance tested these fuels for performance enthusiasts that want to get the most out of their vehicles. Not get mediocre performance to save a few bucks.
I’ve been using Sunoco Ultra 94 here in New Jersey in my C6 ZR1 and 500 Abarth. 10% ethanol. The ZR1 is consistently showing another degree or two of timing at WOT. The owners manual just says use 93 or higher. I was previously using Mobil 93, as I never saw any benefit with Shell except it being extremely expensive. The maps suggest it can take advantage of higher octane fuel. Some guy in Florida dumped Sunoco 260 GT in his stock ZR1 and knocked 0.8 seconds off a 60-130 in super hot and humid weather. The 500 Abarth is also allowing 1 extra degree of timing only in specific situations and it handled hot weather this past summer much better. Just my findings! Both cars aren’t tuned.
Thank you
You're very welcome.
Here on Springfield mass we got shell 93.got my a7 stage 1 waiting on some parts going on stage 2
This is awesome! When did Shell release 93 in Vancouver?? I WFH so much now that I only fill up every few months at my local Chevron with 94. I can finally put that air miles card to good use again! 😂
They released it in the Fall of last year
I have a b5s4 thats been getting terrible fuel millage the last year, i put in shell 93 and its back to its old self, power and economy are back where they used to be. Fuel quality seems to have taken a nose dive in the lower mainland since rona untill this new shell came to town
Shows how much of a crapshoot BC pump gas is. Hopefully the shell 93 can give us a stable option that stays consistent and hopefully it makes it to the Okanagan soon. I switched away from chevron 94 after getting a tank just like the one you tested with in this video.
My main takeaway is to have some E98 on hand.
Thanks for doing this test!
You're welcome!
Loved the video! Before we had these new Shell fuels I was running Chevron 94 as per your recommendation since it was the closest to a true 91 Octane and I'm running a Unitronic Stage 1 on a MK7 Golf R. Would you advise going for the Nitro 91 now instead?
I'd suggest you upgrade to the Stage 1+ tune now and run Shell 93!
Thanks for the suggestion much appreciated 👍
@@mitchl6237 no problemo
I always put shell 93 in my camaro ss 1le.
I was just talking about this with my buddy. The problem is we both have a dozen cars and some don’t move in years, we have to use the 94 chevron otherwise the ethanol will gum everything up. I’ve had to replace fuel pumps after sitting for a 2 yrs.
I have never in my life heard of cars sitting with pump gas containing up to 10% ethanol gumming up fuel systems before. E85, absolutely. Pump gas with less than 10% ethanol, never. First time for everything I guess 🤷🏻♂️
@@VancityAudi 3 pumps replaced here last year, 1 the year before. But yes, I’d never seen this before.
That's amazing. I had no idea that Chevron was so bad. I guess I had been sucked into the urban legend that Chevron was the best fuel in the lower mainland.
It used to be before Shell V-Power Nitro+ came to our market: th-cam.com/video/SoCsF5dRE0U/w-d-xo.html
Would have been cool to see how 93 performed if you bumped up the E content to 10%. Splitting hairs at that point. Maybe something to try if you decide to do a 94 & 93 summer blend comparison
It would have performed the same. I've done the testing on my own time.
Your comparision made me think of if there would be any difference between cars and how they performe. That is if you do the same test with 2 different cars. Would you see the same difference in performance with the same fuel in both in terms of power and torque?
I have done multiple fuel comparisons videos already with different cars seeing similar results in terms of the best fuel we used to the worst fuel we used. Not exactly the same of course because each car has a different calibration from the factory as well as a different motor and different style of forced induction.
With this e10 mix I’ve been confused whether it’s worth the money even since all fuel has ethanol now but this helps clear alot.
This video is from 2022. Here's the most recent fuel test: th-cam.com/video/cQatNyPYuCI/w-d-xo.html
Time to do it all over again. Chevron 94 is E10 now. It’s pretty sad to see my go to fuel before a long vacation is gone.😂
It hasn't reach the Lower Mainland yet. I've tested 3 different Chevron stations that all no longer have an Ethanol-Free sticker beside the 94 octane fuel.
@@VancityAudi it just happened in Alberta so I assume BC is coming soon🫠was going to dump chev94 in my tank before vaccination then E10 sticker on 94 pump slapped my face.
Near the beginning did you say chevron 94 + 10 percent ethanol should ne around 95 octane? If so, would you think this shell 93 should be comparable to 93 down south, and adequate for an ots 93 tune in most cases?
Yes. This is the first time I've ever been comfortable with saying that locally tuned cars running an OTS 93 octane tune developed in the States, will be safe on the new Shell V-Power Nitro+ 93 fuel. That doesn't mean you shouldn't log your car immediately after flashing to that tune and using that fuel though.
Shell ftw. My Stage 2 RS3 is tuned for 93. Based on ur results, should I go for Petro-Canada 94 or Shell 91? Thanks man
These tests only pertain to the fuel located in the Lower Mainland, BC, Canada.
So I ran my stock RS3 on the same kind AWD Mustang Dyno, interesting to see, I ran mine in Dyno mode, you saw it, made 360whp, I am, to this day, not sure if Dyno mode is FWD only or a fixed AWD setup, couldn't tell since the rollers were linked.
But if Dyno mode is FWD, this would obviate the the 30 or so WHP difference between powering 4 wheels versus the fronts.
"Dyno mode" in RS3's is FWD driven only. The FWD VS RWD comparison is also heavily dependant on the dyno. I've already done a video showcasing that on this particular dyno my car makes more hp in AWD than just FWD. th-cam.com/video/jLkeb-ZvxmA/w-d-xo.html
Our shell 91 in Ontario always claimed to be 0% Ethanol.
Recently those stickers on the pumps are being removed and there is no mention of 0% Ethanol on the website.... Interesting that you see 5% in the Shell 91...
The fuel in Ontario is not the same as the fuel on BC. Simply grab an ethanol testing kit to see what it actually tests at.
Great video! I recently purchased a Mk7 golf with IE stage 3 91 tune previous owner was running petro 91 I filled up a few times with chevron 94 and it ran good decided to try shell 91 and I have audible pinging on acceleration would you suggest going back to the 94 or giving the shell 93 v power a try?
Are you located in the Lower Mainland?
Unfortunately no I currently live in red deer smack dab between Edmonton & Calgary grew up in maple ridge though so love to see these videos from coming from Van 👊 so I know the fuels may differ a bit from here to the lower mainland most people in the Mk7 groups here recommend shell 93 so figured I’d get a somewhat suggestion appreciate the reply 👊
@Local Lower Gaming sadly this testing doesn't pertain to you then. If I was you, I'd log your car doing 3rd gear pulls with IE's Powerlink cable and you'll be able to see for yourself which fuel works the best. I'd suggest Chevron 91 or Chevron 94 just off of what you're saying though and not seeing actual data.
In your past Q3 video, 87 octane put out good numbers on that car. Would you still recomend 87 for a 2022 Q3 or the new Shell 93? Just bought the wife the same Q3 like yours.
Thanks for the great videos!
If you noticed in that Q3 video 87 octane fuel provided almost the same power as a blend of Chevron 94 and E10 meaning there is no need for that additional octane.
Seems the car would be more efficient with 93 because you noticed more timing advance but roughly same power. Guess time will tell, will experiment with both fuels.
Thanks
@@achmor24 I've already tested fuel economy using 87 vs 91 vs 94. Sadly they are all virtually identical when doing a mix of city and highway driving. Perhaps if she did more highway driving you might get better mileage with the higher octane fuel.
It's too bad you didn't include Petro Canada 94 in this comparison as that's what I run presently due to easy availability. I would consider switching to Shell 93 if it were readily available but can't tell if it would be beneficial.
We don't have Petro Canada 94 here in the Lower Mainland of BC, Canada. That's why it wasn't tested. Please keep in mind this testing only pertains to fuels found here.
Just bought an Audi s5 , I lived in Richmond , I didn’t know chevron 94 was so crappy will try shell 93
This is the most recent fuel comparison: th-cam.com/video/cQatNyPYuCI/w-d-xo.html
Oddly in my car, the throttle tip in response is much better on chevron 94 than shell 93. When I switch to shell 93 I have to hit the gas harder and the response isn't as immediate, almost like my car gained weight. 91 tune. Any ideas? NA v8 5.0.
Never heard of that. Have you logged your car to make sure what you think you're feeling isn't in your head? If I had a dollar for every time someone said they "felt" like they were making more power on a tune or a fuel without actually proving it, I'd be a very rich man, lol. Do some logging if you haven't already to see what your car is doing on each fuel and that will more than likely tell you exactly what is happening.
*Sorry, you probably have already addressed this but I missed it. But is the ECU being tuned by a tuner each time for the different fuel changes? Or are these power variances just simply from putting in different fuel and the ECU adjusting on it's own after several runs?*
The car isn't being touched. The OEM ECU calibration from the factory is using the fuel in the tank to make as much power as it can on each particular fuel.
@@VancityAudi *Wow! So in theory, even if your car was being tuned, a protuner should be able to extract way more power out of Shell 93 than an inferior type of fuel?*
@@AzNightmare any tuner that kind of knows what they're doing would be able to extract more power with Shell 93 than Chevron 91, haha.
Perfectly normal to see less timing pulled mid range if you had timing being pulled at lower rpm, less timing so less heat in cylinders so when pcm puts back timing after over correction, mid range will be cleaner compared to no timing being pulled early on as you would see more heat. Ie. If you have timing being pulled at 5000rpm, reduce timing at all rpm ranges leading up to 5k and leave 5k+ the same, then see what happens. Most likely you will tolerate more timing at 5k+
Not normal if that was the only log of the day that showed zero correction in the midrange. We did a total of 17 runs that day and that was the only log that showed that.
Can any of the Chevron 94 shortfall be attributed to this typically being the time of year they have their winter fuel?
No. I've already tested the Chevron 94 in this video and it previously tested better than all the other fuels: th-cam.com/video/a3xlLnpmjXs/w-d-xo.html
This just proves how much more superior Shell 93 is.
I've got a baby Benz A220 sedan now, and have traditionally used pure gas, no ethanol, with all my cars (including Challenger RT, Subaru WRX). I just run vehicles stock, around 2000 km/month. I know modern engines are built with ethanol in mind, so, would you recommend Shell 93 (which has ethanol added in BC), or should I stick with Chevron 94 with no ethanol?
It's almost like you started the video and then immediately hit stop and posted your commented, lol. The exact reason I made this video is to answer that question.
@@VancityAudi, haha! No, I did watch. I guess I'm just wondering mainly about if ethanol-blended fuel is really bad for modern engines. But, if testers such as yourself have no issues, I guess I've already got my answer. Think I'll be switching back to Shell, the new 93 octane. Thanks for the great videos!
@@FattyMaxxx you're very welcome. Pure ethanol by itself is 105 octane. Too much of it can gunk up fuel systems if left sitting for too long. Modern day engines running 87 octane fuel all have up to 10% ethanol in their fuels. Ethanol is a good thing. It provides additional cooling and makes more power. If we are talking about an old car that is only summer driven and sits all winter I would recommend Chevron 94 while it sits there unused for a long time. Modern cars that you are being used all the time you absolutely want ethanol blended in your fuel for better performance.
Hey man, at 11:02 of the video, you said Shell 91. Confirm you meant Shell 93? Thanks!
Nope, I meant Shell 91.
if we increased shell 93 ethanol content to 10% and tested it against Chevron 94 w/10% I'd be curious to see the differences
The ethanol content of Shell 93 is now 10%. It was only low during this video due to supply issues we were having because of the extreme flooding we had at that time. If you compare Shell 93 to Chevron 94 with 10% ethanol added, the Chevron 94 would make more power due to having a higher octane value, providing more knock resistance.
im curious as to how you added 10% ethanol on chevron ? i was doing research that cars can run up to 10% ethanol without a retune basically but yea i wanna do that. I currently run chevron 94 and we dont have shell 93 here atm
I added E85 into the Chevron 94 to make an E10 blend. Depending on the make and model, an E20 blend is tolerated perfectly fine. Locally, I encourage all the drag racers that race their Audi's and VW's with me to use an E20 blend when running a pump gas tune to maximize their cars performance. I demonstrated this in this video: th-cam.com/video/_jC5AgLRb3w/w-d-xo.html Go straight to 6:45 of the video to see what I'm talking about.
My car is 2019 Volvo v60cc. I have been using Chevron 91. Recently heard that she’ll 93and chevron 94can clean the engine. I have been hesitant to choose shell or chevron. Can you give me some advice? Choose shell 93 ,91 or chevron 94?
You should be able to answer that question for yourself after watching this video, lol. Start using Shell 91 or Shell 93 and enjoy better performance in your Volvo.
I just noticed Chevron 94 now contains ethanol. I’m curious if you’ve tried it or considered testing it out vs Shell 93 as one would think Chevron should perform better than prior now with ethanol.
It's had up to 10% ethanol in every grade of fuel at Chevron in the Okanagan for some time now. It just recently got to the Lower Mainland. Esso also has a 93 octane fuel which I'll be testing as well. I'm hoping to have the retest done soon.
Oh okay cool. I’m in Victoria and I just noticed the ethanol free sticker gone on my last fill. Appreciate all the work you do on this!
Any consideration to winter vs summer gas blends in terms of why results are different?
Yes, I'm sure the summer blend will vary these results.
What's the go to fuel in Pt. Roberts, WA? USA Chevron premium surpasses USA Shell premium?
No idea. I've never done a test. My guess would be that they are nearly identical.
*How does the Shell 93 compare to 92 down in Washington? Is the local 93 comparable to 93 in the States?*
I haven't tested them against eachother yet but I expect the 93 Shell V-Power Nitro+ to slightly outperform the 92 from Washington State.
Can you do test between shell v power nitro plus vs Mobil synergy supreme plus?
We don't have that fuel here. Plus I'm done testing fuel unless other people are paying for the fuels and the dyno time. If they are willing to though, I'll do more testing.
Would you like to try and test out some Amsoil Signature series? Or fuel additives.
If someone else is willing to pay for the dyno time and I have someone else's car to test with I may consider it. I'm not a fan of fuel additives for the most part so I would prefer not to use them in my cars.
@@VancityAudi I might not be able to pay for the Dyno session! Also to clarify Amsoil is an oil company. They make the BEST motor oil, gear lube, and more for all makes and models. Why don't you like fuel additives?
@@blacklilac1408 I've used octane boosters in the past and they corrode your spark plugs. I've found ethanol to be a much safer and more effective octane booster.
@@VancityAudi Ahh okay would you willing to try the oil and filter. It doesn't even have to be a Dyno session.
@@blacklilac1408 I've been running Motul successfully in both my daily driver and my racecar for years now. Thank you for the opportunity, but I'm good where I'm at. Cheers!
Always add chevron91. The day before yesterday I switched to shell93. The car is very gas-guzzling. Is this normal? Is it because the car doesn't adapt?
The more ethanol in the fuel, the worse gas mileage you'll get. Better engine performance, less miles per tank.
Hi can you do test with 93 bp and 93 shell and or Mobil Exxon
There is no such thing as BP in BC. Please keep in mind these results only pertain to the fuel we have in BC. I can't vouch for any other fuels in any other Provinces or States.
Please try Kirkland’s finest!
I already did: th-cam.com/video/SoCsF5dRE0U/w-d-xo.html
I find chevron 94 in my S4 is a difference compared to shell 91. Car is much more responsive and pulls way harder, interesting how it made less power on the RS3, you think the RS3 was getting heat soaked after that many back to back runs?
I'll have to try shell 93 when it comes to the island. Unfortunately right now all we have is shell 91 and petro can 91 then chevron
Does the island have the new Shell V-Power Nitro+ fuel yet? Or are you still only able to get their old shitty 91 octane fuel with zero ethanol? If you're still using their old formula Shell 91 is WAY worse than Chevron 94 as I've proven over and over again in previous fuel comparison videos. Have you logged your car on each of the fuels to see if what you think you're feeling is correct?
@@VancityAudi I think we still have the old 91, I'd have to check, I know I saw some new signs outside of shell last week with something to do about nitro, is that new stuff? Seems promising if so.
@@awhs5435 the new Shell is 93 and 91 octane fuels. If the stations you are going to still only sell 91, that is still the crappy old formula.
How do you add ethanol and where, is it just e-85 mixed in ? Thanks
th-cam.com/video/IGOt78HseOo/w-d-xo.html
Do you have petro canada 94 there ? If so do you have a video ?
We only have one station that sells Petro Ultra 94 in the entire province and it is outside of Area 27. I tested it twice. Here is the most recent video: th-cam.com/video/SoCsF5dRE0U/w-d-xo.html
In Ontario Shell 91 states it has no ethanol.
That may very well be true. The fuel you have in Ontario is not the same as what we have on the West Coast. Our old Shell formula was ethanol free and 91 octane as well.
I wouldn't put Chevron 94 in my lawnmower.
When does the S4 B9 arrive?
Lol, who said I'm getting an S4 B9?
@@VancityAudi we are hoping you do some day.
Hey Adam! Looks like the Chevron 94 here in BC is not ethanol free anymore! Got an email from Parkland today and heres what they said - "Thank you for contacting us today. This Chevron product has 10% ethanol now as per government regulations. Let us know if you have any questions."
So Chevron 94 with 10% ethanol will be a bit better than the vpower 93?
Ya, I was told that and saw it a few months ago. We won't know if it's better until someone does the testing to prove it.
@Vancity Audi another dyno video maybe? This should be interesting as the last dyno video u did chev 94 with e10 came on top..
@Maurice Tan that's because that was 94 octane fuel with ethanol added on top of that, equalling like 95/96 octane. I won't be making any more fuel comparison videos unless other people are paying for all the dyno time and fuel. These videos cost me a fortune to make.
@Vancity Audi fair enough. How much does it cost roughly to do the dyno and everything else.. just curious
@Maurice Tan just for one of these videos cost me roughly $1000 between the fuel and dyno time. Sometimes more, sometimes less, depending on fuel cost and how many different fuels I'm testing.
TELL EM WE NEED TIS ON THE FAR EAST COAST .... pls
If you guys have Petro Canada Ultra 94 out there I'd suggest you use that.
I canned Shell. Its on the way. They say all of Canada by the end of next year. Right now BC and Manitoba.
@@roderickroderick7216 *Is it confirmed this fuel is also available throughout BC and not just in Vancouver or the Lower Mainland?*
I've always had great luck with the 93 (10% ethanol) we have at Shell in the Midwest in the states. I generally always added a few gallons of E85 to be safe with my 93 tunes. I run Unitronic Stage 1+ E85 now, so don't have to deal with that anymore. I'm curious if all E85 fuels are created equal as well. Given the same Ethanol level, is there any other variable? However, I wouldn't be surprised if the same supplier fills all the E85 tanks around here regardless of if it's Shell, Road Ranger, or whatever stations.
There's only one way to find out! Datalog and get it on the dyno!
@@VancityAudi man I wish I had a local awd dyno. Although I suppose if it's just to compare numbers against changes on my own car, I could do a fwd dyno mode right?
@@scottc78 if you're referring to an RS3 or TTRS you could absolutely do it in FWD mode for your own comparisons.
@@VancityAudi oh ya, sorry didn't say, I have an '18 RS3
@@scottc78 then you can absolutely pull your haldex fuse, run it in FWD and have a gay ol' time on your dyno to see how your car responds.
What's better shell 91, or petro 94 or 91
There is no local Petro 94. Shell 91 would be better than our local Petro 91 because Petro has zero ethanol
Now that Chevron 94 DOES contain ethanol, it would be great to repeat the test! (Also how about Esso 😂)
It still doesn't contain ethanol in the Lower Mainland. When it does, I'll be asking for donations to pay for an entire other fuel testing video. EDIT... I did test Esso. It was horrible: th-cam.com/video/a3xlLnpmjXs/w-d-xo.html
@@VancityAudi I think just as of in recent weeks that Chevron 94 now contains ethanol. They removed all the stickers at the pump too, and I emailed Chevron and they confirmed that now all fuels at Chevron contain ethanol.
@xanders0 could you please forward me that email to adam@vancityaudi.com? I just tested the 94 octane ethanol content locally at 3 different Chevron stations, 3 weeks ago and they were all still zero.
Just filled up at Chevron (Chilliwack), tested 94 after filling 200+ litres, about 7-8% ethanol!
@@xanders0 did you have any ethanol in your tank prior to fill up?
so ethanol is good for your car ?
Its not that simple. Ethanol helps make more power as long as it is kept below 20% on all modern cars running OEM calibrations
I wonder if shells 93 will make it to Ontario
You guys already have Petro Ultra 94 which in my opinion is the best fuel we have in Canada.
@@VancityAudi interesting why do you say that??? Literally just filled up with it
@@darkstar9008 I've dyno tested and logged Petro Canada 94 Ultra locally. I've logged Petro Canada 94 Ultra in Toronto. It was the best testing pump gas I've ever used in Canada.
@@VancityAudi good to know, I pump that religiously into my Stage 1 S4
@@darkstar9008 you'd be better off using the new Shell 93 over the Shelll 91 as well as now running a 93 octane tune rather than the 91 octane tune. I would have never suggested that before this fuel was made available though.
How does shell 91 compare to petro 94?
Seeing as Petro Canada Ultra 94 was the top performer in a previous fuel testing video I have to imagine Petro Canada Ultra 94 and Shell 93 V-Power Nitro+ are the best fuels in BC.
@@VancityAudi thanks for the response! I live in Edmonton and I dont think we have shell 93 here.
@@oswaldgobblepot thanks for watching but this video wouldn't be useful to you anyways because our fuel is not the same as yours.
My car is tuned to chevron 94 but everyone said 93 is better so I made the switch should I go and get my car retuned?
Did you get a custom tune made for your car locally here in the Lower Mainland?
@@VancityAudi yes had it dyno tuned on 94
@@gtadude24245 then I'd immediately make the switch to Shell 93 and have it custom tuned for that fuel now.
imagine if the Chevron 91 is old stuff due to covid supply chains that had all of its alcohol evaporate 🤔
It wasn't old. Ethanol was harder to come by during the floods we had. My guess is that's why it had none in it. Shell's 93 always has 10% ethanol in it and it didn't during these videos because the ethanol shortage during the floods. This was confirmed by Shell when I met them.
@@VancityAudi oh interesting, I wonder if it's something to do with our aromatics.
@@30YearOldBunta aromatics?
@@VancityAudi yeah the aromatic packages change depending on winter/summer blend. This will be mostly hydrocarbons such as xylene and benzene.
I thought Shell 91 had Zero Ethanol..
That's the old formula.
Imagine how bad the old shell 91 would have been lol
🤣 I imagine it would have been less than 300whp.
It was good about 7-8 years ago