Shell V-Power NiTRO+ vs Cheap Gasoline. Is it better? Let's find out!
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- Is Shell V-Power Nitro+ better than cheap gasoline? Shell claims that it cleans better and contains 7 times the amount of detergents required. So, will Shell V-Power Nitro+ clean better than cheap gasoline? Will it prevent carbon buildup? Will an engine achieve better fuel efficiency? Let's find out.
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I thought they all were monitized?
Actually they all deserve to be monetized based on viewership and popularity. What's wrong is the fact that TH-cam picks things they don't like and chooses to no longer monetize them. But we are still watching so......
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Check out the video where he tests the two-stroke bike kit and rides around on his property. Definitely don't think he has to worry about neighbors lol.
@@ProjectFarm do your neighbors ever ask what the heck you are doing all of the projects are for?
All grades of Shell gasoline are top tier. Therefore I would like to see you repeat this test using Shell 87 octane instead of Vpower. Thank you for consistently turning out awesome videos!
You are welcome! Thanks for the video idea.
good idea, I'd like to see that one as well
Not all shells, no.
Big gas shill ??
@@yellobello1 inference skill check...
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Agreed
Very appropriate this i use lucas fuel cleaner or chevron fuel system cleaner.
Fantastic video. Wow you put lots of work into this. Hats off to you. I find it strange that the deposits are somewhat equivalent inside the chamber. I expected a much cleaner overall with the shell.
Except the science is junk.
I like how you say cheap gas. In Europe it's called less extremely expensive gas
lol. Great point! It's all expensive here too.
That's because European governments hate personal mobility.
@@deusexaethera True. Its a shame really, because however good the public transport may be, it just can't replace the freedom of going where the fuck you want when you want to
They usually just hate any car that is kind of fun in general too. That's why most of us drive plastic shitboxes with an engine from a hairdryer.
In the UK up to £6.00 a gallon!
I’d love to see a test on how shell gas effects an engine long term vs cheap gas. I’ve been using shell only for over a year now and could tell a massive difference over running a mid tier brand. Acceleration is quicker and a lot smoother, and the engine feels like it’s healthy. Would definitely like to see an in depth test. Keep up the amazing work man!
Thanks, will do! Thanks for the suggestion.
Pure marketing, just use top tier gasoline and you will be fine
Placebo is a powerful tool
Depends on the engine. Some engines run better with higher octane and require it for maximum performance. Some engines don’t give a fuck. It’s down to what your particular engine needs.
@@giantsfan714 I’m mainly referring to the fuel mixture and additives, not the octane levels. Shell has more additives than other gas brands out there. Especially cheap mid tier gas
I can’t tell you how much I appreciate your videos! You were speaking to my heart when you said, “You want your engine to be in tip top shape and last a long time.” All gearheads can definitely relate to this statement and also folks who just want their engines to last long and be reliable. From what I was taught in auto mechanic school, higher octane fuel resists combustion compared to lower octane fuels. High compression performance engines and/or forced induction engines can benefit from this in order to avoid knock or premature detonation due to high pressure, which leads to high heat. No reason at all to use high octane (premium) gas in an engine that calls for 87 octane. The inner mechanic in me does recommend using higher octane fuels in engines that calls for it in order to respect the design of the engine and all those engineers who worked tirelessly. My teacher who was an elderly man and in the business for ages recommended Techron and I trust his words.
Thanks! Thanks for sharing.
I'm a die hard gear head and I use the cheapest gas I can find that meets the octane requirements for the vehicle/usage.
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@@ProjectFarm I know this is repetitive, but I firmly believe that this test is a good one! If you made this video, then I missed it, I apologize.
I comment this same comment in multiple videos for redundancy only, not to be annoying. With your vast amount of viewers, I don't want my reply to get lost.
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Pump fuel 87 and 91/93 whichever you can obtain.
My weed whacker has a warranty void if pump gas is used.
I'm interested in the fallowing results:
-Efficiency
-Power
-Cleanliness
I hope you can do this project! If you make a poll, I hope this ends up in it! Thank you so much for your videos, they've helped me and many others a lot!
I’m here to find out but I’m not interested in performance just to help the diesel ticking noise I’m getting under load and hope I can cure it without having new injectors fitted. Project farm answers pretty much every question I have or have had about all kinds of things. His channel is invaluable to me and he’s kind enough to reply even if I ramble on with my comments lol
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Ya really cool to see that drop of fuel coat for a second then get atomized!
After being a subscriber for several years, it’s great to see an older video to see how the thoroughness and quality has been maintained throughout the years (or improved) while still maintaining the channel’s original roots. Excellent job Todd!
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more like, extremely poor job, if we consider the technicals
"I have to wake up soon tomorrow."
Also me at 1:30am: which gasoline is better?
Same here 😂
Me right now
Literally me right now! Bahaha
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"ok, we're still at 100 psi."
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Two thoughts: 1. When measuring things like fuel, it is much more accurate to use weight than volume. 2. The cleaning effectiveness should be measured over a much longer time frame. It is possible that an expensive fuel would continue to clean, keeping deposits down, while a cheap fuel would continue to build more deposits.
Thanks for sharing!
Surly liquids can weigh different amounts for the same volume
@@LOTPOR0402 the weight Indicates the energy in the fuel. Heavier fuel would contain more energy.
possible, but as a person who has physically looked and cleaned his GDI Intake Valves, seems top-tier or poop gasoline still doesn't prevent carbon... Additionally, there is almost no definitive literature on what top-tier is...
You buy gas in volume not weight.
The whole point of v power is that it has a higher octane and thus more resistant to detonation. This generally means when tuning an engine, more power can be achieved without causing damage to the engine. Shell promotes more mileage and cleaning because most people don’t understand the issues of detonation (or care) but they are swayed with getting more miles per gallon.
Thanks for the feedback.
Timing, I like e85 though.
Detonation isn't a problem with modern engines though so there's no benefit. It only matters on older cars which are rarely even seen on the roads these days
@@mrcaboosevg6089 timing delay reduces power so it's still a problem, it also happens after detonation has already taken place because the knock sensor needs to detect it before it can delay timing.
@@mrcaboosevg6089 My summertime fun car does not have Any computers on it .So the higher octane Does make a Big difference in performance . Also E85 is unobtainium up here B.C.
I love how he goes through the effort to make the tests fair and scientific, Going to buy new spark plugs, Running old fuel out of bowl, Running The space heater, etc. Love non-bias content like yours, big supporter and viewer of this channel!!!
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He is pretty thorough people like him are a treasure my girlfriend likes the videos as well
I always wondered about that super fuel. Always sceptical, always just saved on the gas and used my favorite additive. Great job! You obviously put a substantial amount of effort into the testing.
To be fair, you would need the right compression ratios and timing to suit each fuel
Agree. Most channels leave me saying some variation of "yeah, but they didn't check, change, test X" So you don't really know.
Not this channel.
Also, great editing that doesn't have me skipping around to get to the content.
You are probably the best neighbour. "Hey you know my engine isn't running so well, what fuel do you put in yours." "Friend how much time you got."
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Honestly my friend bought a car it had a missfire I bought him some shell gas and in 2 blocks his car wasn't shuttering and missing
I have never really cared about cars, tools, or 90% of the things you generally BUT I love your videos. Your back catalog has been an absolute pleasure to watch.
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Your neighbors probably think you just really like mowing your lawn with all these videos.
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@modular97 kek
Difference is that Vpower tastes better
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Taste is subjective my friend. I find the cheap gas better for my tongue and my wallet.
Cheap gas tastes pasteurized
Quite true. Race fuel [100 oct] is stronger.
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Great channel! You seem to be answering really actively and your making really informative videos. We need more channels like yours!
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This is what I was looking for. I asked on a different video to do fuel comparison but I finally found it. Thanks again
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When the machines rise up that poor lawnmower is gonna kick everyones ass
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Only higher compression motors take advantage of higher octane. Adding lead to the fuel stabilized it to increase to over a hundred octane. Very informative channel. He’s gets right to it without dragging on and on.
Thank you!
He don’t play around.
I believe turbo/supercharged engines also, though they are typically lower compression.
@@williamwallace9620 ….Aviation fuel does have a higher octane rating but it’s formulated specifically for airplane engines and the environment they operate in. A lot of people use it in their high compression engines for the octane requirements but I’m not sure if it’s worth the extra cost and hassle of dealing with airports.
I also need high octane fuel for my 12.4:1 compression Ford 351 Cleveland drag racing engine but the 93 octane pump fuel available locally isn’t enough. Fortunately the drag strips in my area sell a wide variety of the highest octane leaded race fuels available plus 100 octane unleaded fuel that I run in my supercharged daily driver when I race it. I just stock up enough race fuel to last in between my visits to the drag strip. Obviously the AV fuel works for you but if you have a race track nearby you might want to consider it as a option.
@@ProjectFarm …. I have a good example of serious power gains from using a premium 93 octane pump fuel compared to regular 87 octane fuel.
I have been getting a rental car once a month for the past couple of years and it was a pleasant surprise to find out first hand about modern automotive technology and the small displacement turbocharged/inter-cooled engines available in rental cars.
Some of the rentals I got included a Twin turbo Infinity, Ecoboost 2.3 liter, turbo/inter-cooled four cylinder Mustang (my favorite), Camaro V-6, Challenger V-6, Charger Hemi V-8 and more that perform only as good as the power train control module allows based mainly on inputs from the O2 and knock sensors. The PCM tunes for peak performance when I fill up the rental with 93 octane on the first tank full.
The rental agency requires the tank be refilled when returning so people buy the cheapest 87 octane to top off the tank upon return.
None of the cars I rented would perform anywhere near their turbocharged or high compression engines ability. Not until I got some 93 in the tank and the performance increase was substantial.
For example, the Twin Turbo/inter-cooled V-6 Infinity literally wouldn’t turn a tire when hammered at a standstill and accelerating to 80 seemed almost impossible.
After the PCM quit pulling out boost and ignition timing caused by knock retard and optimized the tune for 93 octane, the results were impressive. The Infinity would boil the tires on launch and zip up to 140 with ease. The results were the same with all of the listed rentals. A full tank of 93 octane gasoline is well worth the cost when having a blast in the rental !
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@@jayeye4798 I did some research and found out his first name is "Todd" but that was it. He's married with a son and daughter.
Awesome job, you definitely covered the bases you needed to in this video. What might be interesting is if you could find an engine with high enough compression that requires 93 octane and running on both fuels to see the results of the higher octaves knock prevention. One other point that most people don't know about is that the lower octane will make slightly more power due to its ability to burn easier, but you would need a fairly powerful engine to be able to measure a difference, like a 100hp engine may drop down to 99.8 running on a higher octane type of smaller gain/loss. The only place premium shines is in high compression or turbocharged engines, otherwise, if an engine can run 87 octane it will perform better on it than premium, but the people marketing fuel won't tell people that.
Thanks! Thanks for the feedback.
@Peter Angles Exactly... Basic rule of thumb is that if your engine doesn't require it, (and unless you're flooring it every time you take off), don't use it.... I understand your point about the residue as well... additives Always leave something behind... When I had my shop I could tell who was using 104+ because it would leave their spark plugs a reddish brown color.... and when it says it raises octane by 4 points... well now your 87 octane is 87.4... and so on... If you really need a high octane fuel there's always E85, but non flex fueled cars really can't take advantage of this without some serious reprogramming and tuning. We used to mix toluene with regular or premium to get the octane level we needed for supercharged or turbocharged engines and there's lots of articles on the net saying how to mix it for a specific octane level... A little pricy but far cheaper than racing fuel.
Thats not entirely true. My 2017 hyundai sonata 2.4L GDI I just found out had an engine ping (thought it was a loose heat shield rattlin' around underneath) that I would hear when accelerating up a hill or with a lot of throttle. Turns out to be a very common thing with my make/model car. The owner's manual says to use "Top Tier gasoline with an octane rating of 87 OR HIGHER" and what do you know, when I switched to 93 the engine ping went away and the car runs better.
@@STATUSTANK how about 91? 91 is much easier to reliably find.
does a mini cooper need 93 shell? or regular bp work fine?
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How about Shell V Power Nitro vs. Costco Premium gas ?
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V-Power gasoline is mainly for high compression ratio engines and supercharged engines, which can improve work efficiency. However, most of the gasoline engines of lawn mowers and generators have a compression ratio of 8:1 to 9:1, which does not fully demonstrate the advantages of high octane gasoline.
That's the point. In simple engines like this v-power can actually be less efficient, in high compression or turbo engines there will be benefits and injection system will thank you for using v-power. But personally I will use v-power only in sport car for fast driving, for daily driving car regular fuel is more than enough.
Knock knock. It's just a pre-ignition thing.
@@oluskloc lol, as far as I know I haven't seen many people with turbo charged and supercharged fast sport cars around, I mostly see SUVs and Honda civics
Xiaodong Wang but what if i have a vehicle that requires high octane that is naturally aspirated? Should i still run with shell gasoline?
@@WeRide4Snow just stay with the recommended octane!
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He was so precise in the fuel filling that the motor ran within four seconds of each test. That’s legit.
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These are the kind of open Whistle-Blower consumer comparisons we definitely find insightful and very helpful, thanks for all you do and keep up the great content.
Yeah, like Consumer Reports used to be, but without the fluff and BMW and Honda reviews
Projectfarm: "If you're like me, you want your engine to be in tip-top condition"
Also projectfarm: Spends entire channel replacing oil with honey, petrol with wd40, cylinder head with Jb weld.
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Well, what if honey WAS better? No way to find out...
👍 Thanks so much for this. I also Really Like the effort you put into creating fair tests with as few variable as possible. Great job.
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Several comments state the significant difference between US and European octane rating. This is mostly due to the different ratings used. US gasoline is rated in AKI (anti knock index) and European is rated in RON( research octane number). The reality is that they are not that different. 87 regular US is about 91 RON . European regular is 95 RON which is about 91 AKI, basically euro regular is us midgrade. European premium is 98 or 100 RON which is 93-95 AKI. However... running expensive gas in your car makes no sense if it doesn't have a high compression ratio or forced induction.
Thank you for providing the details on the differences in how octane is rated in US vs European countries.
Well, most modern Cars will actualy gain a couple of HP from 95RON to 100RON(i am not mentioning 91 because you can't realy get it anywhere anymore)
Over here in the UK I try to only use Shell. Anything else including the likes of Esso (Exxon) or BP, I notice pinking and a greater chance to stall when pulling away slowly. This happens even though I'm only driving a 2.2 ltr Vauxhall Vectra.
When I had my modified Subaru, "Shell V Power" made a massive difference when the tuner was mapping the car.
Don Pablo Cirkle K here in Norway is markeding their fuels as the «Miles» brand. They also have a premium version of the 95 Octane and Diesel Called «Miles+» .. The plus proves better milage and better lubrication, clean burn and cleaning of the engine. I tested the milage of my fairly regular 91 Toyota Corolla 1,6L 16 valve EFI (4A-FE Petrol engine) .. the milage in my Corolla did actually gain about 80km extra milage. Driven same speed, distance and everything was identical. That impressed me.
I've noticed a difference in sound and acceleration, as well as top speed in my low compression (about 6,5 to 7 bar measured with the hand-starter) Mariner 10hp 2-Stroke Outboard Engine:
With 95 Octane, I get better acceleration (about 2 to 4 seconds quicker to planing - didn't exactly measure it, but it is noticeable: I had a clear disadvantage against another boat with RON 95 fuel when accelerating) but lower top speed and the engine is louder at WOT.
With Ultimate 102 from Aral (didn't test any other fuel - Shell is absolutely no-go on a boat because of the Ethanol-Content) the top speed is 2 to 3 knots higher (Top Speed: about 25 knots) and the engine-sound has less high frequency content (sounds more pleasant), but acceleration is lacking.
Also with Aral 102, the engine runs cleaner and seems to burn more of the oil. But it runs hotter.
As to why, my theory is, that 95 RON Fuel burns faster, creating higher pressures and therefore more torque. At high enough RPMs, however the fuel is spent too fast and starts to cool down while 102 Octane fuel keeps burning longer and therefore keeps the temperature and pressure up. Or the premium-fuel simply has more energy per liter. This is probably the reason why premium fuels tend to cause higher exhaust temperatures in engines that don't have variable spark timing.
There were some problems with Evinrude E-Tec engines a few years ago: The versions without knock-sensors tended to throw EGT-Errors and switch to safe-mode if ethanol-rich (10% or higher from boat gas-stations) or high octane fuel was used. Engines with knock-sensors developed more power and didn't have any problems.
Unless the Ethanol had bonded with water, then the fuel tended to destroy injectors. :)
Hey man you keep doing these videos and these companies are gonna hire a hitman lol
Gio Flores lmfao that’s funny made my night thanks
Lmfao. That hitman would take the money & then turn around & go after the gas company
Gio Flores i was about to say the same thing!
...Hire a hitman? Why not a science teacher?
monkey Bot are you dumb? They would hire a hit man because he’s basically burning out these companies they’re not completely what they claim.
it shocks me the amount of thought you put into these tests ... how thorough you try to be at all cost and we really really appreciate that
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Awesome video, Thank You for this helpful content. I’ve found that Texaco/Chevron gas is superior to Shell as all grades of their fuel contains Techron, where shells additives are more prominent in premium only. That and I’ve had shell fuel examined by a chemist and it contained high amount of sulfur.
I want to say amazing reporting, but this is the way everyone should do videos like this. You've got a great standard. Untampered empirical evidence. Awesome.
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Here's the truth: I deliver fuel to several places, and the EPA controls the recipe for gasoline. All gas companies get it from the same place, however it's raw gasoline. However it's not all the same. The fuel then has the additives added that separate one brand from another. Shell using nitrogen is the trademark. Going back to the original point, removing all additives, fuel is all the same. Shell trucks line up at the same racks as bp and marathon, so bear all that in mind.
This is great information. Thank you!
What ? For real ?
That's is so true lol is the type of sauce they use it all comes from the same hole at the end of the day but definitely I seen the difference on my 01 Durango that my motor is on it's way out v-power gas brings it back and also prevent the check engine light from coming back much longer and also it's a premium fuel as my truck requires all ather fuels are not as good I was also a big fan of mobile gas but it is second choice third choice is sunoco but v power is top for me
So the additives get added after the truck is loaded up with fuel?
@@robertsrt each rack to load at can be different. Shell uses their own trucks and may be pre loaded, but it's hard to say. Or they have contracts with the fuel supplier and it gets mixed in off of their own tanks. It's very hard to say. Rest assured the additives are added, but it's different at each rack to confirm unless you know someone who hauls fuel for shell. It's great fuel indeed, and I mostly use v power myself in the winter and e85 for summer
This guy must have a huge mound of gently used spark plugs and head gaskets in the back 40...
There is no such thing as a gently-used head gasket. It's either used or it's new. !
Also, why would he bother keeping a giant mound of used head gaskets? I am sure they are thrown away promptly after removal from the engine. I'll be at he might keep one or two for a just in case scenario.
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This guy!
I have watched your videos for hours and I learn a lot and I really appreciate the fact that you don’t use any foul language very cool thank you you answer a lot of my questions
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I know it would be a long term test but could you do a test on ethanol vs none ethanol fuel please! You're awesome man, keep up the good work, I love your channel!
He did.
I think you mower is probably thankful to have actual gasoline for a change. 😆
lol!
Ha!
Justin Williams - yeah, as opposed to used motor oil, mothballs, hairspray, toenail clippings, spray paint, and God knows what else! 😆
Your videos remind of motor trend, old house and norms workshop. I love the editing and your take on the experiments. Thank you!
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Your comments and observations are spot on. To often the products cost don't provide enough of a return to make sense to use a product. Simply changing the spark plugs and periodically adding a cleaning agent will often be cheaper in the long run.
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This was a great demonstration. I would have added one more test sequence: store both gasoline samples for 6 months to 1 year under the same conditions, and then run the same tests. I always recommended top-name-brand gasoline to my customers as opposed to the "cheap" stuff, primarily because of the higher-quality additives vs. possibly the lack thereof in the cheap stuff. I've had Shell premium that was 5 years old that was still good, vs. 6 month old "cheap" gas that smelled like varnish in some of my customer's equipment.
Thanks! Thanks for the feedback.
@First name Last name However it's an important quality for equipment that is only occasionally used.
My V6 Toyota Hilander has a crispier response with premium gasoline than with regular. Having a car is luxury anyway. I like the faster response I get in my car from the premium gas. With lower grade my car feels tired and slower to respond.
Test ethanol vs non-ethanol gas for efficiency
I'll do it' Great video idea!
try E100 Or E85 vs. ethanol free fuel. Please
Use Canadian V power it has no ethanol
Shell 91 octane V-Power Nitro is 0% ethanol, Atleast here it is (Canada).
Ethanol burns way faster than gasoline mix
You should test these on a fuel injected engine. Something that will advance timing for the higher octane.
Running it on a carbureted engine with static timing will give you the same mpg. The engine isn’t optimized for the better fuel
Thank you
Wooooooooooow man I can't believe that got past me, totally forgot that the results could be different with EFI.
I mentioned fuel/air ratio, controlled by an oxygen sensor. I didn't even think about the fixed ignition timing used on these small air cooled engines.(I wish there was a way to go back and edit my last reply)
Omg thank u. I laughed when it was tested in carby engine. And plus testing it on a generator will do shit all to results bad example.
Some years ago I did some test on my 2010 Subaru Forester. On that car/engine I got significantly better gas mileage on lower octane fuel - so long as I met the minimum required in the specs. Then I looked up the manufacturer's ratings and they said the same thing - better gas mileage on lower octane fuel. A higher compression engine would, of course, benefit from the higher octane fuel; but not my Forester.
I love your videos. Always very thorough and explained quite well. I even watch through the repetitive footage, like removing and replacing the cylinder heads, because you show interesting information during the process. Very well done and I’m glad I subscribed!
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If your vehicle is rated for regular gas then use regular. If your vehicle is rated for premium then use V-Power!!
Great advice!
My Infiniti G37 requires premium. I filled up with Chevron premium and it ran like shit, went to vpower. Couldn't find a shell close by and put Chevron in again, same result. I believe my car is racist.
@@Forseenlife Umm...you didn't say whether it ran better on Shell or not.
Even if my vehicle doesn't require premium, if it's turbo or super charged I always use premium to prevent knock/pre detonation!
@Toob247 Toob247 yep tons of em. For example my 2012 Chevy Cruze
Thank you so much for your sharing. I love your testing very much. It covers all parameters in the testing. Appreciated the testing. Awesome.
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It did a great job of cleaning and suspending contaminants, impressive. I think it's better to just run a bottle of BG injector cleaner through if you suspect the injectors or plugs are dirty, an extra 50c a gallon for many miles will add up a lot.
It would be interesting to see what difference in performance there would be if this were used on a higher compression motor. My car only takes 91 octane, but I still buy the cheapest 91 available.
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Man, you and your tests are amazing. Keep doing this wonderful job.
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Cheap gasoline with Marvel Mystery Oil vs Shell!!
Great video idea!
As long as you don't put to much MMO in the gas, it will increase octane and engine torque. To much and it starts to become more like a diesel fuel and will foul your spark plugs and clog your catalytic converter faster. I put some in the gas when I'm going to be hauling a heavy trailer with my gasoline truck; MMO gives it more torque for pulling up grades/hills.
Jim Watts How much do you put in
@@clintwiz, well Clinton I usually use about 1 and 1/2 oz per gallon. I also, put a bottle of Gum Out Octane Boost in with it, because I use the lowest octane level of gasoline. The lowest octane gas at the pump has the lowest amount of alcohol content. Alcohol is filler and has very hardly no energy producing ability. So, if you can't get alcohol free gasoline then try my system it works great. Here is some online maps that show where there are fuel stations that have alcohol free gasoline. "Ethanol-free gas stations in the U.S. and Canada" www.pure-gas.org/ ...... www.google.com/search?q=alcohol+free+gasoline&oq=alcohol+free+gasoline&aqs=chrome..69i57.429066j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
Alcohol free gas gives more power and does eat the hell out of you fuel system like that *&%&*^ ripoff alcohol gas does.
It would be interesting to do a Shell v Shell test. I know when I had a 1.8L BMW, it *hated* 87, tolerated 89, but adored 93 octane, even though it was spec'ed to 91. 91 isn't available where I live, so I figured go over. It actually made a noticeable difference in fuel economy as well- over a year, with the same driving every day, 87 was about 28mpg highway, 89 about 30, 93 was 31-32.
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It's that okey for used in 2007 Nissan versa because I just Put 87 Gasoline on it but I try the 89 and it's just same as 87 Gasoline can I put shell v power on that kind of car?
@@Yanbrymenocu Actual recommendation from Nissan is 87, so that's plenty. Higher octane than what the motor is designed for offers really minimal benefits except some extra detergents, but you can get around that with a can of fuel injector cleaner a few times a year.
Same with my 2.0l petrol tsi if I put cheap petrol in it sounds like a old diesal engine but when I fill up with v power it sounds smooth and quite again
My V6 Toyota Hilander has a crispier response with premium gasoline than with regular. Having a car is luxury anyway. I like the faster response I get in my car from the premium gas. With lower grade my car feels tired and slower to respond.
Wow! That's very interesting. Thanks for taking the time to make the video. 👍🏻
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There's TH-cam, and then there's Project Farm. Quality content as always, PF.
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Thank you for making videos man, they have helped me a lot over the years. You give honest and well tested reviews, which is something that almost no one does.
I appreciate that!
One of the very best channels on TH-cam. Cheers. Excellent video, as always.
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I always find your content informative and interesting. Keep it up.
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This dude is the truth!
Name another TH-camr that will reply to comments on old videos.
He doesn't ask us to like or subscribe, but instead asks for ideas that he will dive into deeper than anyone else would dare to try.
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I actualy don't comment any more because he always replies and I feel bad for taking up that time lol
@@jamessoncreek4553, I recently had a similar epiphany. Now I only give test ideas.
2:13 that is actually at 2.8 not 2.4, that marks are by .2 not .1
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@@ProjectFarm so that is 10% since it went up 1 mL ?
I was just about to say that.
I was wondering why 10% ethanol only came to 5%. Now it makes sense.
Yea so that’s more like 8% ethanal
This is especially important on older vehicles that are less efficient as compared to new. Good stuff.
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I definitely appreciate how thorough you are!!
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High comp engines need high octane fuel. High octane burns slower/cooler allowing for more compression and advanced timing without pre-detonation. Better cleaning is just a side benefit.
Great point. Thank you
Are you sure? More heat equals more power. High octane fuels absorb more heat allowing a greater compression and that prevents knocking!
Sterlingjob thats not true. High octance gasoline enables you in much more pre-ignition because of its high knocking resistance. Low octance gas preignites on its own given higher compression. Thats why if your engine figures it has knocking going on, the ignition is retarded
He's only half way right. There's things in the cheap gas to keep the engine cool. High compression requires more to move them pistons. Therefore needing that gas. That has absolutely nothing to do with cooling the types of pistons. High compression pistons are used so u can make the power and not break shit. Friction is what's causing the heat. And with all that taken away to help cool it and make them move faster it will create more heat obviously. When u buy a care they now put the recommended gas on some place of the car. Older carbed cars require non ethanol because that is what they had back in the day and they were not made for type of gas we have today. It tears up the gaskets and prints amongst many things. But newer cars are made to run on this shit gas and therefore u should run the required gas and not be an idiot and be a follower lol. People always think its ok to put premium in the car when all your gonna do is destroy shit. They started carrying the non ethanol gas bc a lot of power sport vehicles require it. Atvs, sleds, all the antique cars. The antiques can't run on this shit. There is a huge difference when u put shit gas in an antique. Where I live its very hard to get non ethanol. I have to drive 20 miles to get my gas and not everyday do iyou wanna do that in a power hungry muscle car.
Jeremiah Arnold they put ethonal in gas because it lowers emissions and is cheaper because it's made in America so it lowers the price a little flex fuel cars can better adapt to the mixture from the factory
The amount of effort you put into the tests is amazing
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You really help people far more than you know. Thank you very much for your videos.
You are welcome! Glad to hear!
I've always wondered about Shell gasoline. I've been told by many a gear head it's of a high quality and that they never put anything else in their cars. Thank you for making this video. I feel rather satisfied to have seen the demonstration and the results. I've learned things I hadn't known before, and I shall wonder no more. 👍
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I'm a hard core gear head and I run the cheapest gas I can find that fulfills the octane requirement of the engine/usage for whatever I'm driving.
I've got one for you, Shell super diesel with cetane compared to regular diesel.
Great video(s)!!! Love your unbiased reviews! I would love to see a video of the of premium fuel from different companies, and whether it’s worth paying extra for bigger names.
Lies again? Vigrx Plus
Consistently one of the best channels on YT. I'd say you should have a TV/streaming show but I think this format works better for you, honestly.
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I agree! You are the go to guy!
Great tests we had around 2.8 million miles logged on all of our fleet of F150’s and the cheap fleet fuel we would purchase never had any fuel related issues. Each truck averaged 300k miles before we sold them. They transported 18 wheeler parts (starters, injectors, etc.) for our roadside mechanics around the Houston region. Mainly highway miles. To note separately we extended oil change intervals from the 5,000 mile factory recommended to 17,000 miles on all trucks. Schaffers oil was used due to their cheap bulk oil prices and were the oils always used to extend those intervals.
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I think when you do mostly highway driving at a constant speed, it really puts much less stress on your car. On the driver too !
Hi, highway miles matter a lot, its best case use for any engine. Cold short runs on city kills any engine life expectancy and as long as the fuel used is within engine specs, being a business it makes perfect sense not to overspend on fuel.
Schaeffer's is top quality 👌
Still one of the best channels on YT.
Thank you
Wrong. It IS the best :p
ummmm ive seen much better yt channels
And what you do with EE?, engineering explained?
@@erictalaria6153 The crap you like doesn't count, Half of the crap you like been banned throughout 95% of the world.
Thanks for another great video. I started using Shell V-Power in a '07 Mercedes E320 with the M104 engine. At 225k miles, I did not expect much of an improvement, but there is. I had been using a quality Premium Gas, but I experienced a slight, but noticeable improvement in performance. I don't think is a function of the cleaners as the injectors, pump, filter and fuel lines were replaced a month before. If it keeps the engine running smooth until a typical rebuild at 400k, the .50 a gallon surcharge is a good ROI.
You are welcome! Thanks for sharing.
@Peter Angles No, V Power definitely has an edge over bog standard fuel. Any car it is put in is noticeably sprightlier. Its straight up worth the cost if you drive any car that's not a cheap pos.
You can add a gasoline additives regularly and save money. Liquid Molly
@@fduran6993 liquid moly to the fuel? :o
How much extra has it cost you over its life so far to run it on V-power?
I run shell vpowernitro in my 1993 Volvo 940 and it’s got over 300,000 miles still running strong. When I bought the car it was owned by an older lady who did slow city driving with cheap 87, 2 years later if 93 shell and the exhaust pipe looks substantially cleaner 👍 I would recommend top tier 93 octane gasoline to anyone with an older car, it literally removed the po420 after running top tier 93 for a year it’s good gas!
Thanks for sharing.
I believe it. Something I am wondering is. People say as a engine ages it develops carbon deposits that raise compression, now wouldn’t that mean that it would run better on higher octane fuel as it ages.
I bought an extremely well cared for 96 SVT Cobra 🐍 Mustang in 2010. At the time it had 37K miles. Today 12 years later it had 53K miles. It’s made to run on 93 octane from the factory original owner told me he only used Shell 93 octane gas. I followed suit until the 2 area Shell stations became Sunoco stations. I’ve since ran Sunoco 93 or Ultra 94.
Here in PA Sunoco Ultra runs about $5.25/gal now. Thank You 🙏 for another great test.
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Dude, I appreciate the amount of work that you put into this, and for a good cause. Great job!
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Considering the short time the engines ran with the types of gas, from an engineer's standpoint, it is quite an impressive outcome in favor of the expensive gas. Imagine the difference if you used it your 200.000 miles/5000 hour-car engine.
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i would say the cheap gas did great compare to the shell gas other than cleaning the bolt
Yup it's definitely about long term vs short term, not only that but the cheap gas he used is it unnamed or we talking Shell 87 or corner store gas station 87 it makes a difference, and this only seems to be a Gunk test, there's corrosion,wear friction, Piston rings etc etc
That was my thoughts too.
I would worry about clogging up the small openings with gunk the detergents break loose. Like flushing a transmission, it could backfire on you. You think you're doing something good for your transmission and then it stops shifting because all the stuff in the fluid helped it to shift. You take that away and you get a lot of slipping on that old transmission. Removing too many deposits too quickly from your engine could clog it up and wreak havoc! If you started when it was new, it would be fine. But if not, I think it's a big risk. Unless it's to the point of needing to be rebuilt, I wouldn't take the risk.
thank you sir for run the test for us this is what i curious for a long time .
I have always wanted to know the difference between regular and super gasoline. This is surely top 3 best TH-cam channels I've found so far. Keep it up man!⭐⭐⭐
Thank you very much!
The primary difference is the octane, and more isn't better unless your engine needs it. Some brands add extra cleaners to their premium grades.
You quickly became my favorite channel 😉 more valuable then gold!
Wow, thanks!
Hey Todd! Love the video! Have you ever considered doing a gasoline showdown using the same grade of gasoline but using different brands like 93 shell vs 93 Costco vs 93 Mobil etc? Thanks for the consideration and great work you do!
Great video idea!! Thank you
I have to see this video!!!
I'm curious about the Costco gas tho.
@@ProjectFarm Try Sunoco!
@@ProjectFarm I would like to see this.
I was just thinking about the same thing! Just like the motor oil playoff style.
You’re so thorough. We love your videos. No more overpaying for gasoline ❤ from California
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Thank you 😊for giving us the public the real deal behind these products 👍
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Very scientific study! Thanks for your efforts and enthusiasm for solving Mechanical Mysteries! I enjoy especially seeing how you control your comparisons and approach these issues from different angles... Good Work, and Thanks... tipping a cold one in your honor, cheers
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You'd really need to test them on an engine with a knock sensor and lambda probe.
What is a lambda probe?
@@gameonyolo1 o2 sensor.
Subscribed, this guy is awesome saw numerous videos. Very educational 😊
Thanks! Thanks for watching and describing!
Good to know their products are still top notch. I worked at a Shell gas station when I was 16 and their Super Shell (premium) was pink and worked great in the high compression/high performance muscle cars of the era. It even smelled good.. but we won't get into that. So good to know that your money is still buying a well engineered product. Thanks for your in depth testing to prove this out!
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Absolutely LOVE his unbiased, factual findings!
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I've been curious about Walnut Shell Carbon Cleaning. It seems to be gaining popularity, but seems to me the walnut shell pieces would get lodged into the compression ring, and cause it to get stuck. Would love to see the results of this on a carboned up engine, and see the piston and rings after the process
Wonderful, simple, accurate and informative tests for the ordinary person with no BS. A breath of fresh air!
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You Sir ARE the Bee's Knee's for information to the average consumer. Great Job Sir!
Great channel. Thanks for all the hard clever work. Request .... You have used a really neat way of starting the lawn mower. I have a few gas tools that are used seasonally - chainsaw, outboard, etc.... that could benefit by using the drill starting idea. Worthwhile for you listing and showing how that could be done for a variety of gas tools?????