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You have to pause and think about when we got 75kw charging and how it changed our ability to road trip. This latest sc v4 is going to make EV charging so seamless for many that it will not be long before we see a lot more EVs on the road than we do even now. Great stuff Kim!
The crazy thing is that on true “v3” chargers a model 3 took ~15-16 minutes to get from 20-60%, but on this one took 10 minutes. There must have been some bottleneck in the charging cords that didn’t allow for such sustained power over the entire charging session, since the output isn’t higher. Seems like a higher charging curve
@@duncanadams2531 most def some limitations. Tesla is constantly changing the software to allow for the fastest possible safe charging of our cars. As we start to see more SC usage, by non-tesla EVs and new Teslas, Tesla is using its data to improve charging experience by allowing cars to charge at higher rates for longer duration (where safe), managing where you charge to maximize the benefit of the charge and reduce charge time, having you arrive with lower charge to take advantage of charging ramp speeds, and encouraging those who have completed charging to leave the spot for the next vehicle that needs charging by applying fees for idle.
Correct, these are just the V4 stalls/dispensers. The actual charges are still the 400 volts V3 chargers. The chargers will be upgraded/replaced later. However, the longer cables will really help none Teslas for the time being.
With Sodium Solid State batteries coming, charge rates will get down to 2-3mins, same speed or faster the filling gas as well as getting up to around 700 mile range on a single charge.
3-5 years out though if not longer for mainstream ev access for solid state cells. For example the nio welion semi solid state cells are 150kwhs in the same size pack as catl has 100kwhs. It weighs a mere 44# but supposedly costs over 35k per pack. And I very much doubt anything other than pickups and high end suv evs will ever have over 350-400 mile driving ranges. Average us daily commute is 37 miles total, average person drives over 200 miles in a day 1-5 times a year. Average as in over 85% of new car buyers in 2022 were homeowners with six figure household incomes and financed the majority of the principle amount for the vehicle purchased. Ev home charging world wide is still 85-90%+of ALL charging being done. 👍🏻
@@4literv6Those Nio battery packs are expensive because they are the 1st generation of that technology. It would get cheaper with economies of scale. Just like what happened with NMC and LFP batteries.
I think if he was more careful about supercharging and only to 80% it would have made a difference… But sadly it’s a lesson learned the hard way. It couldn’t have happened to a nicer guy. Yeah LFP would be good. I think short range was a mistake too bc he obviously needs the daily range.
@@ItsKimJava I think the reason they're such a pleasure to watch is because you're not just some random dude spouting facts. You take lots of time to do your research and It's very helpful that you have the perspective of being a parent. Definitely an asset for car reviews to have that perspective. Keep up the amazing work!!!👏🏻👏🏻Also, what does immersion cooled mean? Maybe I missed the explination in the video.
It actually would make issues for other stalls. You have either forced other drivers to pull in, but in the end you have wasted a slot. Don't believe me? Draw it out and use a paper car to visualize it.
So you're saying these are V3 units with a makeover. V4 is TBD. But this makeover at V3 locations may be a cost effective way to quality for NEVI (longer cables with magic dock)
With those longer cables the should color code the parking spot with the charger or something. Lots of people will be grabbing the charger from the wrong side I am afraid
Is this a V3 station with V4 dispensers? The charging cabinets are the real determination if the site can go above 250KW. This site works just like any other V3 site. Nice to see the magic dock at this site.
I charged there a week ago and got an max speed of 256kw for a few seconds. The cords are noticeably thicker and not easy maneuverable as the first 2 gen.
Thank you for all the information you’ve provided through your videos. My wife recently bought a 2023 RWD M3 and your videos really helped thorough first time ownership. The Vion charger looks sleek like it’s part of the car and I’ll give that a consideration. I really miss that Tesla doesn’t offer the Silver Metallic on the M3 anymore. That silver paint looks amazing and really makes the sleekness of the car’s shape shine through.
It's not so much people picking up their own garbage. It's people throwing away their garbage. Awesome new superchargers! I didn't even know V4 was even being worked on.
Thank you Kim! V4's look awesome! I'm a Tesla stock holder, so I really want Tesla to do well. What I'm really bummed about is the really unfair distribution of Supercharger stations. I live in the Southern state of Tasmania, Australia. There is only 1 Tesla super charger station in the entire state, despite Tesla's becoming incredibly common here. I see Tesla's everywhere, but Tesla customers in Tasmania are definitely being utterly neglected for Superchargers.
Tesla opens up suggestions for new Supercharger sites once or twice a year. Sometimes you can do their work for them to make it easy. Example: Years ago, I (a real estate broker in Virginia US) called up mgmt. of an old mall in Norfolk VA (Veterans Mall) near me to host a site. They said yes the next day. I made it clear I didn't speak for Tesla but had a contact. I called Tesla's team and told them they approved it. Built 6 months later at the location I found for them!
How unexpected for me to check the comments to this video and see a fellow Tasmanian :) There is a supercharger planned for the Hobart area, I would have expected to see work start before the end of the year but it doesn't seem to be the case.. however, I don't think it's far away. In addition Tesla has a voting process every quarter (just google "tesla supercharger voting" and you will find it), Campbell Town is currently one of the option on the voting list. So definitely jump on and vote for it, and (most importantly) get other people you know to vote for it. (They just need a Tesla account, which you can get these days even if you don't own a Tesla).
Fr bro like the only time I’ve had “range anxiety” is when I didn’t charge for a few days and I was on 9% tryna get home. I did make it home with 1% left
Great content, Kim. I just subscribed. My wife has a 2023 Mustang Model E. Port is on driver’s front. Looks like the cable is long enough where she could back in, like any Tesla, & the cable will reach the front of her car. Can’t wait for Magic Dock to go live on V4s charging dispensers. :)
This particular charging station just opened the magic docks a few days ago. Not super fast, but I was itching to test it out. Got up to 76kW. It tops out for my Kia EV9 at 85kW due to the EV9’s 800V architecture. The superchargers only provide 500V and the boost converter in the car seems limited to 85kW.
Tesla's except Cybertruck have a battery voltage architecture of 400 V which is limited to 250 kw change by design only 800 V battery cars can change with speeds up to 350 kw
Was there last night. I skipped one stall where the NACS was not connected to the magic dock in the super charger. I found one that worked with my Kia Niro! By the time I got coffee and bio break at the race track across Camp Creek park way my car was ready. Which was 27 minutes. The Niro is a slow charger. Of course what the charger position does is give tesla drivers options similar to a gas pump. It was a great experience and the magic dock worked well. I did have an extra ten minutes or so setting up the tesla app and figuring out how to use it but it would be very quick and efficient if I did it again. Only a hand full of teslas there in the middle of the night
Charging a smartphone on 3rd party wired manufacture when there is a built in wireless smartphone charger a inchs away 😆 It will be useful for devices that dont have wireless charging or too large to sit on the Tesla's QR charger. Its not completely useless.
Been waiting for this one, Kim! Really happy to see it. Tesla hasn't updated its "Find Us" map yet, since I can't find these chargers on it. And they have "magic docks"…!?! When they're activated, you'll have to borrow a neighbor's non-Tesla EV to do a follow-up video. If it has a rear port, but on the other side, I'd suggest still backing in: the cable should reach around the rear of the EV just fine, don't you think? BTW, don't v3 Superchargers also have liquid cooled cables? I thought that was why they were thinner than v2 siblings. Silly question: why the triple "8"?
Thanks! I thought they were going to support 615 kW with V4? But this is super fast already. Getting it to 600 or may be 800 kW might enable you to go from 15% to 80% in around 5 minutes…that would be incredible.
The problem with non-Tesla 350w chargers is, besides how unreliable they are, the fact that they overheat and don't provide a constant 350w. I'm hoping the v4's don't have this issue.
No charger will provide a constant 350 kW. It’s called a charging curve. Any DCFC, including Tesla superchargers, WILL continue to slow down as SoC on the battery increases.
I'm a Lotus Eletre owner and my car charges at 450kw with 800v architecture. Much faster than V4. Speaking of infrastructure, China is way ahead of US right now.
I Love that the main argument tesla haters have which is "YoU hAvE tO wAiT 30 MiNuTeS iNsTeAd Of SpEnDiNg 3 MiNuTeS tO pUt GaS iN" is getting to the point where it takes around the same time
Man, and I thought V3's were already crazy fast. V4's will make long range trips even easier since Tesla will be rolling these out going forward. And the way those stalls were designed, it should help accommodate a lot of other EV's that have charge ports in different spots.
The Tesla cyber truck will not necessarily charge faster, because it’s half as efficient as a model three so even if it charged twice as fast, it would be equivalent to a model 3 charging.
@@The_DuMont_Network yes, true… and even use the two other solutions of location, or a longer wire… v4 is capable of 1kv, probably only running at 480kv in this video as “still cool”
I really like the look of the older silver model 3, can you make an update video on yours? I know it’s an early model 3 and would be interested to know how it’s holding up. Thanks! 👍✌️
@ItsKimJava, what are your thoughts for the Tesla owners that are disabled and use a wheelchair - is there enough room after backing in to access charging port, etc?
It is a step in the right direction, but I would argue that it does not appear to be designed quite right. Almost certainly, people without trailers are going to occasionally plug in and block the trailer only stall. Some people are actively evil, other people are ignorant, and many others are simply "lazy" and do not want to be hassled with backing up to use a charging station. Then, when someone with an actual trailer shows up, they are inevitably going to get angry, particularly when there are unoccupied non-trailer stalls available. It is a recipe for conflicts and "charger rage". One day, some people may even go so far as to shoot each other over "charger rage". This is a predictable/foreseeable outcome, and it is preventable. Additionally, it does make logical sense for people to get angry in such situations. It does make sense for people to get angry, when someone else does something selfish that brings harm to them. Often times, anger is not the "fault" of the person getting angry, but it is in fact a normal symptom of someone doing something harmful/evil to another human. Marking a perfectly good stall as "trailer only" is unfair to those not pulling trailers, particularly when all non-trailer stalls are already occupied. Marking the stalls also will not physically stop people without trailers from plugging into it and causing problems for those who actually are pulling a trailer. Marking the stall trailer "only" will also decrease utilization rates of the stall, which increases the probability of it falling into disrepair and not getting promptly repaired, which is actually a major potential problem when pulling a trailer with an EV. One relatively easy solution is to make more trailer accessible stalls (say upwards of 33% of total stalls), and then charge mildly higher electricity rates for using the trailer accessible stalls. Additionally, it is important to make it known to customers what the electricity prices are between the two stall designs, so that people not pulling trailers preferentially use the non-trailer capable stalls, since they know them to be cheaper. Charging a little bit more for using a pull through trailer accessible stall does make good physical sense, since parking lot area required is higher for a trailer accessible stall, and it therefore does in fact cost slightly more to install a trailer accessible stall, compared to a non-trailer style stall. It is unnecessary to mark the stalls trailer "only". Simply charging higher electricity rates for the trailer accessible stalls is sufficient incentive to prevent the vast majority of people not pulling trailers from blocking the stalls, except where there is a shortage of total unoccupied stalls available. In that scenario, it does make good sense for people without trailers to charge at the trailer accessible stalls, and for people with trailers to simply wait a little bit if necessary, for a trailer accessible stall to become available.
🤔 I wonder how fast a cyber truck would charge on the system, also wonder if they won’t change this up a little bit and make these capable of charging even faster down the road it will charge according to your vehicle specifications there again because of the cyber truck, just some thoughts because the cyber truck is capable of charging quite a bit faster if I remember/understand correctly. Would be interesting to see how they perform on these regardless. Thanks for a great video short but informative and thought-provoking.
You could’ve tested the charger on the left when doing the pulled straight in test. But either way I think it would work, just confuse others parked around you
I know that site down by 285 / CCP - when you pulled in nose first you just need to use the charger over on the driver side of the car and the line would have reached -
I have an ioniq 5 the thing about I hate for tesla chargers is that hyundai put charge port on passager side not driver side so its very inconvient it looks like cant even reach with longer cables either. these stalls that you hae to back into and stuff are kinda terirble design.
the cord being 3 feet longer makes a lot of sense with tesla opening up their charging network. i think it should have been 7 feet longer, but what can i do
This is not a V4 supercharger really as you mentioned. It is a V3 with V4 dispensers. So they only currently do 250kW and we have no idea if they will go to 350kW. We can hope of course.
This is what they should do with malls that have closed down. I.edot put chargers in them and then rejuvenate the malls. People could go inside and do mercantil while they're waiting for their cars to charge up!
The question is.. how much will this reduce the life of your battery? My understanding is it reduces the life by a good amount charging it that fast all the time.
Love your video's Kim... Are those white seat covers, or did you have the seats reupholstered? Would love to change out my black seats... Thanks again for the demo on the new V4 chargers... super cool!
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i would buy a tesla if you do these videos without a bra.
True story bro.
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You're so sexy when saying kilowatt.
You have to pause and think about when we got 75kw charging and how it changed our ability to road trip. This latest sc v4 is going to make EV charging so seamless for many that it will not be long before we see a lot more EVs on the road than we do even now. Great stuff Kim!
The crazy thing is that on true “v3” chargers a model 3 took ~15-16 minutes to get from 20-60%, but on this one took 10 minutes. There must have been some bottleneck in the charging cords that didn’t allow for such sustained power over the entire charging session, since the output isn’t higher. Seems like a higher charging curve
@@duncanadams2531 most def some limitations. Tesla is constantly changing the software to allow for the fastest possible safe charging of our cars. As we start to see more SC usage, by non-tesla EVs and new Teslas, Tesla is using its data to improve charging experience by allowing cars to charge at higher rates for longer duration (where safe), managing where you charge to maximize the benefit of the charge and reduce charge time, having you arrive with lower charge to take advantage of charging ramp speeds, and encouraging those who have completed charging to leave the spot for the next vehicle that needs charging by applying fees for idle.
The fact that the "thats what she said" part is the most replayed 🤣🤣
Tesla is killing it so fast & smooth-future is bright.
She handles that cable like a pro!
She is an experienced girl....
Mine is also lightweight….
Correct, these are just the V4 stalls/dispensers. The actual charges are still the 400 volts V3 chargers. The chargers will be upgraded/replaced later. However, the longer cables will really help none Teslas for the time being.
Now never to be upgraded
I can't back in.
@@sunnysider6350 You could if you were driving a Tesla!😁😁😁
With Sodium Solid State batteries coming, charge rates will get down to 2-3mins, same speed or faster the filling gas as well as getting up to around 700 mile range on a single charge.
3-5 years out though if not longer for mainstream ev access for solid state cells. For example the nio welion semi solid state cells are 150kwhs in the same size pack as catl has 100kwhs. It weighs a mere 44# but supposedly costs over 35k per pack.
And I very much doubt anything other than pickups and high end suv evs will ever have over 350-400 mile driving ranges.
Average us daily commute is 37 miles total, average person drives over 200 miles in a day 1-5 times a year.
Average as in over 85% of new car buyers in 2022 were homeowners with six figure household incomes and financed the majority of the principle amount for the vehicle purchased. Ev home charging world wide is still 85-90%+of ALL charging being done. 👍🏻
@@4literv6Those Nio battery packs are expensive because they are the 1st generation of that technology. It would get cheaper with economies of scale. Just like what happened with NMC and LFP batteries.
I think Dobson should really get a LFP model 3 so we can see in one year how the life of the cells will be
You don’t want to miss our surprise/sit down video with him!😊
I think if he was more careful about supercharging and only to 80% it would have made a difference… But sadly it’s a lesson learned the hard way. It couldn’t have happened to a nicer guy. Yeah LFP would be good. I think short range was a mistake too bc he obviously needs the daily range.
It'd be hilarious if he rolls up in a 500+ mile Chevy Silverado EV
Great content, Kim. Where’s the link to his goFundme?
Kim and PJ, thx for creating such interesting and leading-edge content. Kim, you have a great personality for doing this!!!
That’s sweet of you. Thanks for watching!
@@ItsKimJava I think the reason they're such a pleasure to watch is because you're not just some random dude spouting facts. You take lots of time to do your research and It's very helpful that you have the perspective of being a parent. Definitely an asset for car reviews to have that perspective. Keep up the amazing work!!!👏🏻👏🏻Also, what does immersion cooled mean? Maybe I missed the explination in the video.
0:11 what an excellent demonstration of how you separate recyclables from non-recyclables!
I like how she separated them from the ground👌
it all goes to the same landfill...so....
I think if you park front first, you would use the charger on the left side, which shouldn’t cause issues for the stalls on either side.
It actually would make issues for other stalls. You have either forced other drivers to pull in, but in the end you have wasted a slot. Don't believe me? Draw it out and use a paper car to visualize it.
Thats what she said!
So you're saying these are V3 units with a makeover. V4 is TBD.
But this makeover at V3 locations may be a cost effective way to quality for NEVI (longer cables with magic dock)
With those longer cables the should color code the parking spot with the charger or something. Lots of people will be grabbing the charger from the wrong side I am afraid
6 minutes from 19% to 50% on a Model 3, that's amazing!
Is this a V3 station with V4 dispensers? The charging cabinets are the real determination if the site can go above 250KW. This site works just like any other V3 site. Nice to see the magic dock at this site.
Probably V4 form factor advantages with charging speed upgradability.
@@michaelsmithers4900 That does make sense.
I charged there a week ago and got an max speed of 256kw for a few seconds. The cords are noticeably thicker and not easy maneuverable as the first 2 gen.
Hey what's the location of this Supercharger. I'm in Atlanta and it doesn't come up on my model S when I search?!
@@sds4810 camp creek right in front of Lowes
Thank you for all the information you’ve provided through your videos. My wife recently bought a 2023 RWD M3 and your videos really helped thorough first time ownership. The Vion charger looks sleek like it’s part of the car and I’ll give that a consideration. I really miss that Tesla doesn’t offer the Silver Metallic on the M3 anymore. That silver paint looks amazing and really makes the sleekness of the car’s shape shine through.
Glad to help and thanks for watching ☺️
It's not so much people picking up their own garbage. It's people throwing away their garbage.
Awesome new superchargers! I didn't even know V4 was even being worked on.
How fast did it charge up and how much did it cost??
Its pretty normal in Europe ..... we have loads of those charging stations ...
So many Tesla owners leave the charging stations filthy! Do better Tesla owners. Keep these places clean!
Thank you Kim! V4's look awesome! I'm a Tesla stock holder, so I really want Tesla to do well. What I'm really bummed about is the really unfair distribution of Supercharger stations. I live in the Southern state of Tasmania, Australia. There is only 1 Tesla super charger station in the entire state, despite Tesla's becoming incredibly common here. I see Tesla's everywhere, but Tesla customers in Tasmania are definitely being utterly neglected for Superchargers.
Tesla opens up suggestions for new Supercharger sites once or twice a year. Sometimes you can do their work for them to make it easy. Example: Years ago, I (a real estate broker in Virginia US) called up mgmt. of an old mall in Norfolk VA (Veterans Mall) near me to host a site. They said yes the next day. I made it clear I didn't speak for Tesla but had a contact. I called Tesla's team and told them they approved it. Built 6 months later at the location I found for them!
you’d be surprised. i live in an area with many teslas and few chargers and they’re popping up everywhere. it’s awesome!
How unexpected for me to check the comments to this video and see a fellow Tasmanian :)
There is a supercharger planned for the Hobart area, I would have expected to see work start before the end of the year but it doesn't seem to be the case.. however, I don't think it's far away.
In addition Tesla has a voting process every quarter (just google "tesla supercharger voting" and you will find it), Campbell Town is currently one of the option on the voting list. So definitely jump on and vote for it, and (most importantly) get other people you know to vote for it. (They just need a Tesla account, which you can get these days even if you don't own a Tesla).
The only people who have "range anxiety" are people who don't even have a Tesla.
Fr bro like the only time I’ve had “range anxiety” is when I didn’t charge for a few days and I was on 9% tryna get home. I did make it home with 1% left
@@definitelyluccaSo it was your fault. Did I get that right?
@@theodorehaskins3756 yeah it was my fault for not charging I never implied it wasn’t.
@@definitelylucca Yeah you did!👀
Great content, Kim. I just subscribed. My wife has a 2023 Mustang Model E. Port is on driver’s front. Looks like the cable is long enough where she could back in, like any Tesla, & the cable will reach the front of her car. Can’t wait for Magic Dock to go live on V4s charging dispensers. :)
No other Ev maker will ever beat Tesla as long as Elon is alive.
You talk like if elon designs anything! He is just a rich guy in the right moment
@@carvantonio9298you know nothing clearly
@@carvantonio9298 just a rich guy u say. He is the master mind behind the engineering
@@chiboyife5456😂😂😂 lol
there would be no Tesla or EV movement without Elon Musk. He almost single handedly willed humanity towards this new future.@@carvantonio9298
Where in Atlanta is this charger? I can’t find it on their charger map online
This particular charging station just opened the magic docks a few days ago. Not super fast, but I was itching to test it out. Got up to 76kW. It tops out for my Kia EV9 at 85kW due to the EV9’s 800V architecture. The superchargers only provide 500V and the boost converter in the car seems limited to 85kW.
Tesla's except Cybertruck have a battery voltage architecture of 400 V which is limited to 250 kw change by design only 800 V battery cars can change with speeds up to 350 kw
That tail light makes the car look so much better damn
I am very curious how fast the Cybertruck will charge on these as well. Should be a game changer.
Was there last night. I skipped one stall where the NACS was not connected to the magic dock in the super charger. I found one that worked with my Kia Niro! By the time I got coffee and bio break at the race track across Camp Creek park way my car was ready. Which was 27 minutes. The Niro is a slow charger. Of course what the charger position does is give tesla drivers options similar to a gas pump. It was a great experience and the magic dock worked well. I did have an extra ten minutes or so setting up the tesla app and figuring out how to use it but it would be very quick and efficient if I did it again. Only a hand full of teslas there in the middle of the night
9:42 this will definitely reach my Lightning ⚡️ charging port when backing in!
Charging a smartphone on 3rd party wired manufacture when there is a built in wireless smartphone charger a inchs away 😆
It will be useful for devices that dont have wireless charging or too large to sit on the Tesla's QR charger. Its not completely useless.
at 10:00 in, why not try to plug in with the charger on the other side?
Although it looks like it would reach, wasn’t even close from that angle.
If the chargers were not yet upgraded, how did you get the charging speeds you did in this TH-cam?
Been waiting for this one, Kim! Really happy to see it. Tesla hasn't updated its "Find Us" map yet, since I can't find these chargers on it. And they have "magic docks"…!?! When they're activated, you'll have to borrow a neighbor's non-Tesla EV to do a follow-up video. If it has a rear port, but on the other side, I'd suggest still backing in: the cable should reach around the rear of the EV just fine, don't you think? BTW, don't v3 Superchargers also have liquid cooled cables? I thought that was why they were thinner than v2 siblings. Silly question: why the triple "8"?
Thanks! I thought they were going to support 615 kW with V4? But this is super fast already. Getting it to 600 or may be 800 kW might enable you to go from 15% to 80% in around 5 minutes…that would be incredible.
Kim with another great video! Keep them coming!
More to come!
The charger on the other side of the car may reach the charge port 😂😂
The problem with non-Tesla 350w chargers is, besides how unreliable they are, the fact that they overheat and don't provide a constant 350w. I'm hoping the v4's don't have this issue.
No charger will provide a constant 350 kW. It’s called a charging curve. Any DCFC, including Tesla superchargers, WILL continue to slow down as SoC on the battery increases.
I work at the location who builds this it’s so dope seeing this
how does the cooling work?
Do you have a video explaining all the mods and work you've done to your model 3? That one of the dopest ones I've seen!
I saw these in Detroit when I visited to see my parents. they were not hooked up yet but they had em there.
I'm a Lotus Eletre owner and my car charges at 450kw with 800v architecture. Much faster than V4. Speaking of infrastructure, China is way ahead of US right now.
Cybertruck uses a relay that switches half the pack from series 800v to parallel 400v. Sandy Munros last interview shows the component.
Cable is thinner? It actually looks thicker than V3 and about the same thickness as V2.
I remember Elon saying 350kw is a childrens toy. and that was when V3 was coming out. Now we have V4 and it's still only 255kw?
These aren't V4. Still V3, still 250 kW.
I Love that the main argument tesla haters have which is "YoU hAvE tO wAiT 30 MiNuTeS iNsTeAd Of SpEnDiNg 3 MiNuTeS tO pUt GaS iN" is getting to the point where it takes around the same time
Man, and I thought V3's were already crazy fast. V4's will make long range trips even easier since Tesla will be rolling these out going forward. And the way those stalls were designed, it should help accommodate a lot of other EV's that have charge ports in different spots.
The Tesla cyber truck will not necessarily charge faster, because it’s half as efficient as a model three so even if it charged twice as fast, it would be equivalent to a model 3 charging.
Charging Station optimized configuration?
1. drive-through stalls with
2. charging tower located midway front/back
drive-in entrance, charge, drive-out exit
You would need wide stalls so you could open the doors
@@The_DuMont_Network yes, true… and even
use the two other solutions of location, or a longer wire… v4 is capable of 1kv, probably only running at 480kv in this video as “still cool”
Is it safer for the battery if you only have supercharged available and no home charge
I really like the look of the older silver model 3, can you make an update video on yours? I know it’s an early model 3 and would be interested to know how it’s holding up. Thanks! 👍✌️
Did the car take more than 250kw?
@ItsKimJava, what are your thoughts for the Tesla owners that are disabled and use a wheelchair - is there enough room after backing in to access charging port, etc?
V4 in Columbia, SC, cable is thicker then V3, thinner then V2 cables though
Where in Atlanta is this?
Like to see positive vibes in the comments. Here in Europe hate is pretty high against Ev cars.. Best regards everyone!😊
Gettin ur asx kick in ur own backyard suks ask Vw Audi ………
Have you done any videos about Hosting these Super Charging stations are they profitable etc?
Does your battery die faster on your Tesla? I’m always worried that if I’m using both charging ports that it’ll drain the battery, so just wondering.
That trailer only stall is awesome!
It is a step in the right direction, but I would argue that it does not appear to be designed quite right. Almost certainly, people without trailers are going to occasionally plug in and block the trailer only stall. Some people are actively evil, other people are ignorant, and many others are simply "lazy" and do not want to be hassled with backing up to use a charging station.
Then, when someone with an actual trailer shows up, they are inevitably going to get angry, particularly when there are unoccupied non-trailer stalls available. It is a recipe for conflicts and "charger rage". One day, some people may even go so far as to shoot each other over "charger rage". This is a predictable/foreseeable outcome, and it is preventable. Additionally, it does make logical sense for people to get angry in such situations. It does make sense for people to get angry, when someone else does something selfish that brings harm to them. Often times, anger is not the "fault" of the person getting angry, but it is in fact a normal symptom of someone doing something harmful/evil to another human.
Marking a perfectly good stall as "trailer only" is unfair to those not pulling trailers, particularly when all non-trailer stalls are already occupied. Marking the stalls also will not physically stop people without trailers from plugging into it and causing problems for those who actually are pulling a trailer. Marking the stall trailer "only" will also decrease utilization rates of the stall, which increases the probability of it falling into disrepair and not getting promptly repaired, which is actually a major potential problem when pulling a trailer with an EV.
One relatively easy solution is to make more trailer accessible stalls (say upwards of 33% of total stalls), and then charge mildly higher electricity rates for using the trailer accessible stalls. Additionally, it is important to make it known to customers what the electricity prices are between the two stall designs, so that people not pulling trailers preferentially use the non-trailer capable stalls, since they know them to be cheaper.
Charging a little bit more for using a pull through trailer accessible stall does make good physical sense, since parking lot area required is higher for a trailer accessible stall, and it therefore does in fact cost slightly more to install a trailer accessible stall, compared to a non-trailer style stall.
It is unnecessary to mark the stalls trailer "only". Simply charging higher electricity rates for the trailer accessible stalls is sufficient incentive to prevent the vast majority of people not pulling trailers from blocking the stalls, except where there is a shortage of total unoccupied stalls available. In that scenario, it does make good sense for people without trailers to charge at the trailer accessible stalls, and for people with trailers to simply wait a little bit if necessary, for a trailer accessible stall to become available.
Why doesn't Tesla just scoot the charger forward (this wiuld allow for more access to ports in various spots
Me too!! 8:44
Exactly where in Atlanta is this version 4 SuperCharger? Thanks 🙏🏼
Wild guess camp creek Lowes
At exactly 10:31 it tells you everything
Thanks Kim and PJ for the great video
Tesla should be installing solar and batteries at all their new charging locations, and retrofitting existing ones.
I wonder what Tesla will do with the V2 locations? I know they added 12 V3 stalls to the 8 V2 stalls at the Lexington Ky location?
🤔 I wonder how fast a cyber truck would charge on the system, also wonder if they won’t change this up a little bit and make these capable of charging even faster down the road it will charge according to your vehicle specifications there again because of the cyber truck, just some thoughts because the cyber truck is capable of charging quite a bit faster if I remember/understand correctly. Would be interesting to see how they perform on these regardless. Thanks for a great video short but informative and thought-provoking.
You could’ve tested the charger on the left when doing the pulled straight in test. But either way I think it would work, just confuse others parked around you
what teslas is this v4 fast charging compatible with? Like even a 2017 model s for example? or a 2018 model 3?
Yeah V4 gets the BBC "Big Black Cable"
Here's a thought. Tesla should consider adding a parking spot for mobile food trucks. Another great way to improve the charging experience.
I know that site down by 285 / CCP - when you pulled in nose first you just need to use the charger over on the driver side of the car and the line would have reached -
And blocked one slot, wasting a slot.
Awesome video, very informative. Thanks
I have an ioniq 5 the thing about I hate for tesla chargers is that hyundai put charge port on passager side not driver side so its very inconvient it looks like cant even reach with longer cables either. these stalls that you hae to back into and stuff are kinda terirble design.
If you pull forward you could use the charger on the drivers side
the cord being 3 feet longer makes a lot of sense with tesla opening up their charging network. i think it should have been 7 feet longer, but what can i do
Kim how you enjoying those wheels?
Love em’!
This is not a V4 supercharger really as you mentioned. It is a V3 with V4 dispensers. So they only currently do 250kW and we have no idea if they will go to 350kW. We can hope of course.
Yes @scottz45 ^^this^^
GREATLY prefer matching and all matt
Vion charging hub
This is what they should do with malls that have closed down. I.edot put chargers in them and then rejuvenate the malls. People could go inside and do mercantil while they're waiting for their cars to charge up!
Camp Creek location in Atlanta
Nice n Fast, but common logic would suggest supercharging on V4 is even harder on an EV battery than a V3
One open last week in Windermere Florida
i thought tesla stopped the silver color, wonder how she got a silver model 3.
The question is.. how much will this reduce the life of your battery? My understanding is it reduces the life by a good amount charging it that fast all the time.
Location of the site will be helpful?
How are the EMF reading?
How are the Hankook tires working out? Noise improvement?
Big time on noise improvement and love the overall look of the tire/wheel combo.
with the Vion hub, what about where to put the drive for the dashcam, if the hub takes up both usb slots??
On my 2020 M3LR, the socket for the dashcam is in the glove box. There is no data on the Type C sockets in the console.
That’s crazy… v3 was filled with liquid and here I was seeing memes encouraging copper thrives to steal them. Lmao they probably die if they tried.
Hi Kim, Now I'm spotting the headlights you have on your Model 3. Is it something after fitted equipment or is this how they look in the US?.
Aftermarket headlights and taillights
Hi! Where did you buy those tail lights?? I love them🫶🏼
Love your video's Kim... Are those white seat covers, or did you have the seats reupholstered? Would love to change out my black seats... Thanks again for the demo on the new V4 chargers... super cool!
reupholstered. Have a video out on it from a few years ago. Called something like "worlds first Tesla Model 3 with white seats"
Thank you so much!! Kind of you to respond -- I'll look for your video... @@ItsKimJava
What 'immersed cooled, not liquid cooled' mean??
Where in ATL is this charger?
5 minutes to put the cable to the port. I only get that speed at CCS.
Good in practice. But my tesla model y 4680 will not even reach 100kw when charging. How is 200 kw let alone 300 going to work ?!
What % charge are you starting at? Unless you’re starting at 10-20%, no - you’re not going to see the max of 250 +/- kW.
@@cathol1c778 usually like 20%, other teslas hit 250kw when it is 30%
Awesome Kim 👍🏾😀!!