The Roland T-8 was my introduction to the 303. I absolutely love the machine so I got the Behringer TD-3 MO AM. By incorporating multiple baseline machines into my sets, I found myself having more fun and experimenting with leads and melodies. I just ordered the BassBot and I’m so excited after watching your video. The comparisons of the machines only tells me you can’t go wrong with whatever unit you use. Getting a TD-3 for 100 bucks is the best money spent on a synthesizer.
@@Decoy303 Yeah, not worth it. Abstrakt has some great products, it's a shame their manufacturing can't meet demand. Then on the other extreme, the TD-3 for $150 is probably the best synth deal there is.
Pattern write trick... I usually take my Volca Beats and i find a tempo; say at 120bpm and then on the 1bar/16 step sequencer I use the closed hat as a tap in marker for a melodic rhythm in my head. Once I know where those notes in that 1bar loop hit at I then put in my timing into my 303. This allows me to know where all my rests are to then figure out where I want any slides or just rests. This really frees up the headache of not being able to play in time.
You forgot “planet rock” in your history lesson; it came out before “rip it up”. Jazzy Jay said he used the 303 with the TR-808 to produce the rhythm to go alongside the Kraftwerk interpolation/sample.
One just sold on Reverb for $300. Seems like a fair price for what would be a new synth experience for me! I had a CZ 5000 years ago; it was fairly interesting, but I didn't keep it. Maybe it's time to explore Casio again?
Thanks a lot for creating this demonstration. I've loved old skool music from acid house and onwards but wondered how the sounds were made. Used a few different bits of kit since my music production interest started a few years ago and it's usually based around writing or sequencing rather than the experimental - i got myself a volca bass and realised i could make some acidic sounds on there but it wasn't really hitting the mark on point for the sound manipulation like I've heard over the years and this demo was excellent! I like the midi and distortion aspect, and the price tag on the Behringer, but i _think_ i prefer the sound on the TT-303 (Bass Bot)? Gonna need to look at this a little more before i settle on the next GAS purchase 😂😂. THANK YOU!
Thank you for your comment! The Bass Bot is my all time favorite at this point. The die hard purists are going to hang on tightly to the Roland 303, but you really can't beat Cyclone Analogic's box!
@@asoundlab yeah from your demos it's a very subtle difference I noticed. So subtle that I don't really notice it TBH! I think I'm leaning harder towards the bass bot, it's just hitting that button on the "order here" I need to commit to now! Am I right in thinking it's a French company and order through them? I saw some alright prices and some at 600 GBP when looking yesterday which is twice the price of it new... ?
Nice video. I have the TD-3, TB-03 and TB-3, and the Boutique version (the TB-03) has the original 303 sequencer, plus a modern version of the sequencer, much easier and intuitive to program, so you can choose between original mode or modern sequencer.
@@el_dani I'm a nerd but I'm a musician and in situations when I want freedom and not to be limited by old hardware, I embrace technology. That's why I use the TD-3 just to have fun, but the TB-03 to make music and work with the sound and possibilities of the machine. I grew up making music during the 90s and I was waiting for a time like today, when we have so many possibilities and different hardware options to choose from.
@@midichlorian73 You're welcome. Yeah the form is really good if you're using a sequencer. Space is a bit of a premium for me, so it works. If I am honest I do think theres something cool about buttons for 'slide, accent, octave up/down...etc...' which you could argue are part of the 303 experience. But the MB33 looks cool, sounds cool and works really well IMO (works as well as your external sequencer anyway!). Ace comparison BTW - thanks :)
The TT-303 V1 is the best emulation from a sonic standpoint. Shame they're so fragile (have 3 that need repairing - the VCO gets 'drifty'). They lost a little of the bounce in the V2. I have 2 TB-303's, a TB-03, a literal stack of TD-3's, 4 TT-303 mk1's, 2 TT-303 V2's and a Norand Mono. They all have their own unique flavours. The Norand Mono is a gloriously bonkers extrapolation of the 303.
Man thats awesome. You remind me of myself haha. The only one I don't have is a Norand Mono and was thinking of getting one of those. How do you find it? Sounds like it could go into the plastikman territory pretty well? I love My TT V1 as well. I should have bought more of them. The other whacked out one I have is a circuit bent MAM MB33 and I use the TD-3 to run it. Highly recommend one of those! I got it to sound like this: th-cam.com/video/P9LATC_fzZY/w-d-xo.html Thats just a single MAM into effects pedals.
Hi which clone you will recomend me looking for clone at Long notes? Like it goes in aira tb3... but Aira i have at time and not fully happy with.. Its possible play Long notes without volume drop also in tt 303 mk2? Thx for any answer :)))
101 filter is totally different from the sound of the 303. There’s not really any 303 emulation that does super long notes with a long envelope super well. However, if you reduce the ENV to zero, you can send modern 303 clones long notes and you’ll hear a long sustained tone. (You could also use the programmer with ‘tie’ and create long notes, it’s just a bit of a pain.)
15th October 2023 - first time watching the video, but I would also like to know the answers, very much!!! For my reference, demos at: 8:59 - Roland TB-303 13:36 - Cyclone Analogies TT-303 Bass Bot 18:18 - Beringer TD-3
Anyone who hasn't got a ROLAND Touch TB3 is a FOOL...SIMPLES..including me..😊 You also get a lot more out of the Behringer TD3 putting it through an analogue desk, ie eq... PeaceFromOZ
Man. I always yawn when people say they have been hitting the clubs , since age 14. This Seems to be a standard line that people say when they want to show how long they have been into the scene and to other peoples music I’m gonna give you a scenario if I see a 14-year-old in my club you will be ejected immediately, because I don’t wanna have my license taken away from me. If I see a 14-year-old in my club, you’ll be ejected immediately because a nightclub is not a place for 14-year-old. This is why you don’t see 14--year-olds in clubs, and this is why people who do you say i was is going to club since I was 13 I’ve been going to club since I was 14 are always stretching the truth. You hear it quite often from people it seems to be a regular thing. It’s almost becoming a little bit like stolen valour. It’s OK, you’ve been into the music for a long time. That’s totally cool. Just don’t need to see the stolen valour bit bro
1. TB 2. TT 3. TD 4. TD 5. TB 6. TD 7. TT 8. TT Of those, sacrilegious as it may be, I like the TT-303’s sound the best. Better low and mids than the OG and fuller sounding than the TD. Closest thing I have to a 303 clone is the Volca Nubass, which is less a clone and more like the punk rock cousin of the 303.
Programing this is not hard BUT you have to know some things that absolutely impossible to figure out by yourself (for example, pressing CLEAR to SAVE a song mode is absolutely counterintuitive). Basically it was typical japanese video game cheat code.
I understand why people have to showcase Behringer gear. Trust me when I say that their modern 303 is really not worth owning. Apart from the fact it is beyond fragile, it only does one 303 sound justice. The squelch is horrid. It's NOT an analog 303 emulator period. It's typical behringer cheap.
Wax Trax front and center, nice. The new TT-303s are ugly as all get out. Just hideous. Same with the yellow TD-3, gross. I've got the original blue TD-3 and a silver TD-3-MO, alongside the RE-303. They all sound great, but the RE-303 is the best of the best. It's literally a 303.
Hold on, I'm 3 hours into this video and you have just started to talk about yourself. I will keep this video playing but can anyone tell me in the meantime when they start playing the sounds?
8:59 - Roland TB-303
13:36 - Cyclone Analogies TT-303 Bass Bot
18:18 - Beringer TD-3
They sound soo similar. The Cyclone just has a little extra ‘umph’ though.
Here a little snitbit of history to,
I believe its called
"10 ragas to a disco beat" 😉
The Roland T-8 was my introduction to the 303. I absolutely love the machine so I got the Behringer TD-3 MO AM. By incorporating multiple baseline machines into my sets, I found myself having more fun and experimenting with leads and melodies. I just ordered the BassBot and I’m so excited after watching your video. The comparisons of the machines only tells me you can’t go wrong with whatever unit you use. Getting a TD-3 for 100 bucks is the best money spent on a synthesizer.
Abstrakt Instruments Avalon is the 303 clone for me, love that you can put a SEM filter or other kinds of filters in it.
The avalon is the best.
Avalon is easily the best bassline for sure
@@sheateeley1 it was 1000 new, now 2500 used - so it would have been like winning the lottery if you bought 2 😅
Avalon Blines cost just as much as the original tb303. 😬
@@Decoy303 Yeah, not worth it. Abstrakt has some great products, it's a shame their manufacturing can't meet demand. Then on the other extreme, the TD-3 for $150 is probably the best synth deal there is.
Fire video. Extra props for the Amoeba Music hoodie 🔥
Haha! Thanks! Gotta keep the Independent music stores alive. Thank you for the positive vibes!
Love this! A really good, no-BS comparison.
PS - pretty sure the distortion in the TD-3 is based on the Boss DS-1 🤷🏻♂️👍🏼
Pattern write trick...
I usually take my Volca Beats and i find a tempo; say at 120bpm and then on the 1bar/16 step sequencer I use the closed hat as a tap in marker for a melodic rhythm in my head. Once I know where those notes in that 1bar loop hit at I then put in my timing into my 303. This allows me to know where all my rests are to then figure out where I want any slides or just rests. This really frees up the headache of not being able to play in time.
You forgot “planet rock” in your history lesson; it came out before “rip it up”. Jazzy Jay said he used the 303 with the TR-808 to produce the rhythm to go alongside the Kraftwerk interpolation/sample.
Been confirmed to be cap, he didn't get one until years later. He admitted he must've misspoke when someone pressed him on the timeline, haha!
I own a TD 3 and TB 3. I prefer the sound of the TB 3 I only wish it had the original sequencer. TT 303 is on my list tho.
You guys really need to do a video on the Casio HT-6000 and the Spectrum Dynamic Synthesis!!
One just sold on Reverb for $300. Seems like a fair price for what would be a new synth experience for me! I had a CZ 5000 years ago; it was fairly interesting, but I didn't keep it. Maybe it's time to explore Casio again?
@@midichlorian73 I drove to another state once to buy an HT-6000
Phuture - Acid tracks came out in 85 btw
Lots to remember! I actually still have my original copy on wax! Thanks for the correction.
The OG 303 could have the Devilfish (distortion) mod. Didn’t need an external pedal.
Thanks a lot for creating this demonstration. I've loved old skool music from acid house and onwards but wondered how the sounds were made. Used a few different bits of kit since my music production interest started a few years ago and it's usually based around writing or sequencing rather than the experimental - i got myself a volca bass and realised i could make some acidic sounds on there but it wasn't really hitting the mark on point for the sound manipulation like I've heard over the years and this demo was excellent!
I like the midi and distortion aspect, and the price tag on the Behringer, but i _think_ i prefer the sound on the TT-303 (Bass Bot)?
Gonna need to look at this a little more before i settle on the next GAS purchase 😂😂. THANK YOU!
Thank you for your comment! The Bass Bot is my all time favorite at this point. The die hard purists are going to hang on tightly to the Roland 303, but you really can't beat Cyclone Analogic's box!
@@asoundlab yeah from your demos it's a very subtle difference I noticed. So subtle that I don't really notice it TBH! I think I'm leaning harder towards the bass bot, it's just hitting that button on the "order here" I need to commit to now!
Am I right in thinking it's a French company and order through them?
I saw some alright prices and some at 600 GBP when looking yesterday which is twice the price of it new... ?
Try Reverb first. And yes, they are a French company. Happy twiddling!
@@RaverOperator
@@asoundlab thank you mate! I'm in UK, I'll try reverb but I think they are US based?
Anyways, appreciate the replies.
All the best :)
Nice video. I have the TD-3, TB-03 and TB-3, and the Boutique version (the TB-03) has the original 303 sequencer, plus a modern version of the sequencer, much easier and intuitive to program, so you can choose between original mode or modern sequencer.
The TB-03 also has a modern implication of the sound engine (digital so to speak), true nerds do not want that
@@el_dani I'm a nerd but I'm a musician and in situations when I want freedom and not to be limited by old hardware, I embrace technology. That's why I use the TD-3 just to have fun, but the TB-03 to make music and work with the sound and possibilities of the machine. I grew up making music during the 90s and I was waiting for a time like today, when we have so many possibilities and different hardware options to choose from.
@@MaximilianoSchneider sure we live in a great technology times, except for Roland drivers that get discontinued before all devices left the shelf
DIN SYNC re 303 all the way Baby
Great video, think the cyclone tt303 sounds the best.
I still use my TT303.
Love it.
W😊ell done !
I know there's no 'on board' sequencer, but I really rate the MAM MB33.
Ooof! Not familiar with this piece of kit; looks like something to dive into. Nice and small. Thank you for the heads up!
@@midichlorian73 You're welcome. Yeah the form is really good if you're using a sequencer. Space is a bit of a premium for me, so it works. If I am honest I do think theres something cool about buttons for 'slide, accent, octave up/down...etc...' which you could argue are part of the 303 experience. But the MB33 looks cool, sounds cool and works really well IMO (works as well as your external sequencer anyway!).
Ace comparison BTW - thanks :)
It's interesting how familiar that guy's story is, about being allowed to go to clubs at a young age lol
Haha! Did you travel the same path? Certainly influenced my taste in music!
The TT-303 V1 is the best emulation from a sonic standpoint. Shame they're so fragile (have 3 that need repairing - the VCO gets 'drifty'). They lost a little of the bounce in the V2.
I have 2 TB-303's, a TB-03, a literal stack of TD-3's, 4 TT-303 mk1's, 2 TT-303 V2's and a Norand Mono. They all have their own unique flavours.
The Norand Mono is a gloriously bonkers extrapolation of the 303.
Will you say that your studio is well covered when it comes to acid lines? :)
@@Kiham80 you can never have enough 303.
Man thats awesome. You remind me of myself haha. The only one I don't have is a Norand Mono and was thinking of getting one of those. How do you find it? Sounds like it could go into the plastikman territory pretty well? I love My TT V1 as well. I should have bought more of them. The other whacked out one I have is a circuit bent MAM MB33 and I use the TD-3 to run it. Highly recommend one of those! I got it to sound like this:
th-cam.com/video/P9LATC_fzZY/w-d-xo.html
Thats just a single MAM into effects pedals.
Hi which clone you will recomend me looking for clone at Long notes? Like it goes in aira tb3... but Aira i have at time and not fully happy with.. Its possible play Long notes without volume drop also in tt 303 mk2? Thx for any answer :)))
Roland SH-01A will do longer 303 style notes
101 filter is totally different from the sound of the 303. There’s not really any 303 emulation that does super long notes with a long envelope super well. However, if you reduce the ENV to zero, you can send modern 303 clones long notes and you’ll hear a long sustained tone. (You could also use the programmer with ‘tie’ and create long notes, it’s just a bit of a pain.)
You GOTTA try the RE303, dude. Its not a clone; its an exact replica. Expensive though!
would be lovely if there was an update of the answers:)
Nobody has come close. Still leaving this open.
@@midichlorian73 even now? i want to know which one 7) is
15th October 2023 - first time watching the video, but I would also like to know the answers, very much!!!
For my reference, demos at:
8:59 - Roland TB-303
13:36 - Cyclone Analogies TT-303 Bass Bot
18:18 - Beringer TD-3
Knee-jerk, non-critical listening stab:
1 TD
2 TB
3 TT
4 TB
5 TD
6 TD
7 TB
8 TT
Anyone who hasn't got a ROLAND Touch TB3 is a FOOL...SIMPLES..including me..😊
You also get a lot more out of the Behringer TD3 putting it through an analogue desk, ie eq...
PeaceFromOZ
Man. I always yawn when people say they have been hitting the clubs , since age 14. This Seems to be a standard line that people say when they want to show how long they have been into the scene and to other peoples music I’m gonna give you a scenario if I see a 14-year-old in my club you will be ejected immediately, because I don’t wanna have my license taken away from me. If I see a 14-year-old in my club, you’ll be ejected immediately because a nightclub is not a place for 14-year-old. This is why you don’t see 14--year-olds in clubs, and this is why people who do you say i was is going to club since I was 13 I’ve been going to club since I was 14 are always stretching the truth. You hear it quite often from people it seems to be a regular thing. It’s almost becoming a little bit like stolen valour. It’s OK, you’ve been into the music for a long time. That’s totally cool. Just don’t need to see the stolen valour bit bro
1. TB
2. TT
3. TD
4. TD
5. TB
6. TD
7. TT
8. TT
Of those, sacrilegious as it may be, I like the TT-303’s sound the best. Better low and mids than the OG and fuller sounding than the TD. Closest thing I have to a 303 clone is the Volca Nubass, which is less a clone and more like the punk rock cousin of the 303.
You totally missed” jam on it”
Roland is top dog
1. TB
2. TT
3. TB
4. TD
5. TD
6. TT
7. TB
8. TD
Maybe?
Programing this is not hard BUT you have to know some things that absolutely impossible to figure out by yourself (for example, pressing CLEAR to SAVE a song mode is absolutely counterintuitive). Basically it was typical japanese video game cheat code.
1 TD
2 TT
3 TB
4 TB
5 TT
6 TD
7 TD
8 TT
🤞
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
I understand why people have to showcase Behringer gear. Trust me when I say that their modern 303 is really not worth owning. Apart from the fact it is beyond fragile, it only does one 303 sound justice. The squelch is horrid. It's NOT an analog 303 emulator period. It's typical behringer cheap.
1 behringer, 2 roland, 3 cyclone, 4 roland, 5 cyclone, 6 roland, 7 behringer ,8 cyclone
AM = yellow
I have 3😂
Wax Trax front and center, nice. The new TT-303s are ugly as all get out. Just hideous. Same with the yellow TD-3, gross. I've got the original blue TD-3 and a silver TD-3-MO, alongside the RE-303. They all sound great, but the RE-303 is the best of the best. It's literally a 303.
AAHH I've been watching this video for 10 days now and he is still talking about his family holidays.
between td-3 and cyclone tt-303, xoxbox sound better
Hold on, I'm 3 hours into this video and you have just started to talk about yourself. I will keep this video playing but can anyone tell me in the meantime when they start playing the sounds?
Stop the waffle
10 years in and he is still talking.
Behringer build quality is no bueno
So is the original lol
The Cyclone build is freakin great. Also their drum machines are fantastic. And all analog.
@@portugueseloveconnectionyes but I had to buy two to get one to work …. I have a bass bot too
@@portugueseloveconnection I had to buy two of them because one of them had technical problems. Maybe they aren’t exactly the same.
I ended up buying a TT 303
you talk too much