i have only ever played SRS and Zoomancer but even I genuinely think that SRS is the best minion archetype there is. The fact that they just zoom really fast to enemies and melts them so quickly is what impressed me so much. Zoomancer is nice to play since there are lesser buttons to press but like you said the skellies AI is odd at times and there is huge reliance on AG for clear speed
i'd point out as a HRoC player last league i would say this is THE build you want to use in t17 because it basically ignores all t16 and t17 mods in existence, since it isnt affect by any traditional minion debuffs mods that t17 mods can throw at you and ignore alot of build bricking mods that other minion builds are afraid of as well
Really loved this video and convinced me to give Holy Relic a try for 3.25. Hope to see a video for that build as the mapping looked incredibly smooth.
Damn. Came across this while looking for a league start, mostly afk, Blighted Map build. Didn't really help ME, but this is a great video. Ill share it around!
I like this video a lot, is very well edited and has good information. With that said, I think you overrated BAMA's playstyle a bit. I think it plays like ass lol
it is bad, but lm a summon reaper main and l find that build way smoother and better dps then BAMA, and its better now we can go trigger wands and just use skitterbots+tempest boots for the loss of bleed while moving
Animate weapon is so powerful but also so terrible to play. It can be a very viable league starter until you can't stand summoning the weapons every map anymore.
i was a minion player for like 5 leagues straight, when minions were good, during the Carrion Golem times, the Syndicate Operative times. Never again. Minions die over and over, and having to invest in minion survivability makes you invest less in their damage and your survivability. any other arquetype is better than minion summoner in everyway possible. would never recommend to anybody play minions, unles to a new player that's not going to do hard content. minios state is like if you hard to spend points and mods in gear into "sword durability". otherwise your sword would die mid combat, and you would have to go reforge another weapon. it's just stupid. i understand having to spend in minion survivability, but then make them do more damage baseline. so we can invest into minion survivability and our own and still have damage. otherwise theres no way you do hard mapping content with a minion build without dying you or the minions. maybe the random, op build, but that's an accident. and holy relic is might have the minion tag, but come on, minion lovers will never consider a fucking lantern a minion. wtf is that shit?
I mixed srs and vaal skeleton for poison version, and without endgame items it was awesome on pinacle bosses, so I thing it can be really good option for ubers as well, once you have a good build. Sadly many league mechanics cannot be played with these gems, coz the clear speed is preety slow...
Your 3.23 Lightning SRS was GOATED for me. Heck, with Affliction's corpses coming back in the form of Ritual reward corpses...do you think you're gonna update it?
"Minion Defence Section" Laughs in Dancing Dervish. Very good guide though, shame it's missing anything on what's about (depending on snapshotting) what's about to become meta or the new RF Holy Relic is not a newcomer, it's existed and blasted as a very balanced build for a few years now. It's lancing steel that made it ubiquitous since it used to be a complex trigger build and lancing steel is ezmode.
Minions used to reward the setup and the clunk with superior damage and easy gearing. But we lost these advantages along the way. It's difficult to justify Minions compared to other options these days especially since their clear is B tier at best
I played the lightning skeleton build in Necropolis and I found the build way too squishy for myself. I can see it as a sanctum character but not for juiced t16 or normal t17s
@10:12 plus that they nerfed the skelly warriors along with mages by 30%...and GGG never bothered to compensate the warriors which literally died after the nerf...
I've played minions every league and often tied summon reaper and I can confidently say it is not a good build. It may be a viable build I can't say for sure but it's a notable drop in power from meta builds.
Bama is good and all, but my god the amount of buttons it has. You have your offering + blink arrow + mirror arrow + a dash skill that you constantly have to press.
@@PhazePlays_ Hmm how is the mapping of bama better than the mapping of holy relic? holy relic is basically coc dd playstyle right which was pretty comfy and fast
Pretty much anything. Minions aren't really "unique" dependent so most gear can be farmed or crafted. I would recommend an all around type of build. Focus on Zombies, Skeletons, Golems, and Specters.
BAMA losing adorned = no fucking thanks. I know you never had to go adorned route, but the damage without it is not worth... especially since it requires a non standard AG for damage... and t17s (or even deli t16s last patch for some unknown reason) constantly wreck him.
hey, since you seem to be the go-to srs guy, I wanted to show you my minmaxed crit guardian version: th-cam.com/video/g_Nt5ZZyw78/w-d-xo.html with strong offense and defense this league (3.25)
![[PoE 3.25] UBER BOSS TACTICS - Uber Guides: Sirus, Exarch, Maven, Uber Elder, Eater, Cortex, Shaper](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/1dA2sTTrezs/mqdefault.jpg)
![[PoE 3.25] UBER BOSS TACTICS — Uber Guides: Sirus, Exarch, Maven, Uber Elder, Eater, Cortex, Shaper](/img/tr.png)
![Weaponizing Self-Destruction - Lens Loop Showcase [PoE 3.25]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/3Xw21p2BpZE/mqdefault.jpg)
![Ultimate SANCTUM GUIDE - Shortcuts, Profitable Relic Setups, Boss Guides, Tips & Tricks [PoE 3.25]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/rs1QIeVTZHs/mqdefault.jpg)
Really good production quality. Hoping to see you cover many other minion builds that aren't necessarily META but often overlooked.
i have only ever played SRS and Zoomancer but even I genuinely think that SRS is the best minion archetype there is. The fact that they just zoom really fast to enemies and melts them so quickly is what impressed me so much. Zoomancer is nice to play since there are lesser buttons to press but like you said the skellies AI is odd at times and there is huge reliance on AG for clear speed
Really nice video from the info to the visuals, learned some stuff about minions too! Keep it up.👍🙏
i'd point out as a HRoC player last league i would say this is THE build you want to use in t17 because it basically ignores all t16 and t17 mods in existence, since it isnt affect by any traditional minion debuffs mods that t17 mods can throw at you and ignore alot of build bricking mods that other minion builds are afraid of as well
Thank you, this helps alot specially like me new to the game, very informative. I’m playing SRS atm and still learning the game mechanics.
Top notch analysis bro! I’d love to see more skill get covered, Ranged animated weapon,zoomancer,or even animated guardian of smiting. Cheers
Really loved this video and convinced me to give Holy Relic a try for 3.25. Hope to see a video for that build as the mapping looked incredibly smooth.
Bruh this is actually so informative. Minion build users and makers need to see this!
this is nuts, so much hard work went into this!!
Do you think linking feeding frenzy or some other source of minions are aggressive would fix skeleton AI issues?
Damn. Came across this while looking for a league start, mostly afk, Blighted Map build.
Didn't really help ME, but this is a great video. Ill share it around!
I like this video a lot, is very well edited and has good information. With that said, I think you overrated BAMA's playstyle a bit. I think it plays like ass lol
it is bad, but lm a summon reaper main and l find that build way smoother and better dps then BAMA, and its better now we can go trigger wands and just use skitterbots+tempest boots for the loss of bleed while moving
thoughts on animate weapon (and ranged) vs srs?
Animate weapon is so powerful but also so terrible to play. It can be a very viable league starter until you can't stand summoning the weapons every map anymore.
i was a minion player for like 5 leagues straight, when minions were good, during the Carrion Golem times, the Syndicate Operative times. Never again. Minions die over and over, and having to invest in minion survivability makes you invest less in their damage and your survivability. any other arquetype is better than minion summoner in everyway possible. would never recommend to anybody play minions, unles to a new player that's not going to do hard content. minios state is like if you hard to spend points and mods in gear into "sword durability". otherwise your sword would die mid combat, and you would have to go reforge another weapon. it's just stupid. i understand having to spend in minion survivability, but then make them do more damage baseline. so we can invest into minion survivability and our own and still have damage. otherwise theres no way you do hard mapping content with a minion build without dying you or the minions. maybe the random, op build, but that's an accident. and holy relic is might have the minion tag, but come on, minion lovers will never consider a fucking lantern a minion. wtf is that shit?
Really nicely organized and good explanatory video! Learned a lot, thanks. Keep up the good content! :)
I mixed srs and vaal skeleton for poison version, and without endgame items it was awesome on pinacle bosses, so I thing it can be really good option for ubers as well, once you have a good build. Sadly many league mechanics cannot be played with these gems, coz the clear speed is preety slow...
which build do you recommend to start 3.25 with?
Your 3.23 Lightning SRS was GOATED for me. Heck, with Affliction's corpses coming back in the form of Ritual reward corpses...do you think you're gonna update it?
Holy relic look very nice, will probably try it this league.
But why you didnt talked about golems ? becouse too expensive build ?
Nice vid, hoping here to see some future golem build review between all of them (carrion,flame...)
Hey Phaze, did u try the animate weapon of ranged arms yet as a minion skill? And if so, what did you think about it?
The quality of your videos!!!
"Minion Defence Section"
Laughs in Dancing Dervish.
Very good guide though, shame it's missing anything on what's about (depending on snapshotting) what's about to become meta or the new RF
Holy Relic is not a newcomer, it's existed and blasted as a very balanced build for a few years now. It's lancing steel that made it ubiquitous since it used to be a complex trigger build and lancing steel is ezmode.
you have Chains Of Command Necromancer AG paradoxica vaal rapier ?
I started bama because it is a great uber bosser on low budget.
How is bossing it's "weakest aspect"?
Minions used to reward the setup and the clunk with superior damage and easy gearing. But we lost these advantages along the way. It's difficult to justify Minions compared to other options these days especially since their clear is B tier at best
Bama guardian/necro is endgame build on trash gear
Awesome video! Can you also make a permanent minion guide as well?
I am still not sure go for bama or holy relic for my guardian starter even 3.25 coming very soon :(
What is the best fully afk-able minion build? Is there one that can reliably clear blight without player input?
Keep 'em coming, my man. Stellar quality
Thinking about starting srs in guardian in hc trade over archmage just so I don’t have to farm merc lab
How do you feel about SRS of Enormity vs vanilla for non popcorn?
Great video man
Bro is that you in gauntlet? doing amazing
If we use flame and flesh gem wich , asendary ocultist talante Profane Bloom. All minions have nice maping
I played the lightning skeleton build in Necropolis and I found the build way too squishy for myself. I can see it as a sanctum character but not for juiced t16 or normal t17s
I've put 50 div into an AG and still had it die on a nornal map. Got a few bad archnem mods and poof.
Thanks again for the great content
What will you rate popcorn marionette build for this league?
we get free dancing dervish now right?
@10:12 plus that they nerfed the skelly warriors along with mages by 30%...and GGG never bothered to compensate the warriors which literally died after the nerf...
hey guys, is poison skellies with carrion golems good?
everything fine but srs playstyle 5/5 god no and holy relic play style is 6/5. very good vidéo bruh
Phaze will be playing ritual on league start
Great quality video
What are you playing this league Phaze?
Love how you skipped over Summon Reaper/Revenants and now that its even better that we don't need a bow and we can go trigger wand
nah..fk dat
@@inferno8008 summon reaper is a good build but hey if you have not tryed it then you never know
@@UmrAl-Tawil4422 is it good with Glad? cuz it now has aggravated bleeding..does it work with the bleeding of reaper?
Reaper is in the worst spot it has ever been since release.
I've played minions every league and often tied summon reaper and I can confidently say it is not a good build. It may be a viable build I can't say for sure but it's a notable drop in power from meta builds.
BAMA's biggest enemy - merc lab!
amazing video, what's to dislike?
Bama is good and all, but my god the amount of buttons it has. You have your offering + blink arrow + mirror arrow + a dash skill that you constantly have to press.
You can just hold down Blink and Mirror Arrow and they'll both cast on cooldown
@@PhazePlays_ Hmm how is the mapping of bama better than the mapping of holy relic? holy relic is basically coc dd playstyle right which was pretty comfy and fast
Holy relics is more of a hybrid build and falling zombies is just not a minion build.
minion bros we are SO back
anyone know of any good ssf minion builds? appreciate it in advance
Pretty much anything. Minions aren't really "unique" dependent so most gear can be farmed or crafted. I would recommend an all around type of build. Focus on Zombies, Skeletons, Golems, and Specters.
@@lennyghoul tyvm
BAMA losing adorned = no fucking thanks. I know you never had to go adorned route, but the damage without it is not worth... especially since it requires a non standard AG for damage... and t17s (or even deli t16s last patch for some unknown reason) constantly wreck him.
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no spectre is crazy.
damn... reapers are not even in the list
hey, since you seem to be the go-to srs guy, I wanted to show you my minmaxed crit guardian version: th-cam.com/video/g_Nt5ZZyw78/w-d-xo.html with strong offense and defense this league (3.25)
@3:37 SRS got nerfed to the ground though ;(
Poison SRS is fine after 3.24. Necro changes with unholy might made up for the 30% nerf.
where the pob ???? all of this editing and no pob ???
Pob for what? He shows multiple builds.
And POE ninja is your friend lol
Putting bama's bossing at 3 is laughable. Hard to take anything you say after that seriously.
Skeles are a bit clunky, but I love them and it's melee season afterall