Yeah, a lot of builds look nice when you've sunk 400-600d into it. The tormented spirits enchants alone are around 200d. Both weapons have quintuple BiS T1 mods with an open affix. Actually, pretty much most of the gear is unbelievably good. I'm not sure if 400-600d is even a sufficient estimation for the gear in this vid.
@@Veginite What the f are you even talking about? Do you expect people to showcase league start builds a month into a league? Yes, the build will be expensive. Btw enchant is barely 100div, since PR is atm 4div -> 26div per both wands + trash runes. Budget armour is easily craftable or purchasable solid fracture base for 10-20 divines. Helical Ring will be the biggest pain in the ass, yet you can surely work around with budget craft aswell. Forbidden jewels are like 150div combined. Hard to say if you need it to run the build tho. Imho its easily runnable under 200div, which is easy budget at this point if you play daily.
I played the ballista version of this thing last league and loved it. When the skill was first revealed I was shocked it didn't get more attention considering how much phys you can get from it. A dream skill to pair with HH.
I have played this since league start, but with normal KB and fury valve. The problem with fury valve is single proj targeting but the spell slinger tornado makes the split autotarget. So you just click in any direction and it shits all over the screen. Play style is great. Playing deadeye with chain and maxing projectiles for insane overlap. Great headhunter build.
Thanks for this. I was trying to figure this setup out just before league start, but didnt think about awakened fork and tornado tech. Glad someone figured it out! Great job, glad for some vindication about the sleeper potential on this gem
I ran this last league and felt like everyone was sleeping on it! I was mostly just trying out the Maven wand and the Sacred Wisps but it felt great. Definitely want to try it again with some of your improvements :D
I like the way you're demonstrating the theory of your builds before making them because it encourages people to develop their own version and understand the game. At the end of the day imparting game knowledge to the community is more valuable than specific builds.
When I tried this skill at the start of the league, the turnoff for me was that I had to connect to get the explosions and that's why I abandoned it. I didn't even think that tornado would solve that . Great Idea, I'll probably try it out at some point this league. Cheers!
I did uber lab the other day and saw this gem. It caught my eye so i took it and kept it thinking it had potential. Cool to see it in fact does. I'll probably try this out as my next build
I've been thinking and thinking that this move must be OP and was pretty sure it'd be expensive. I bought some items in anticipation of this kind of video and suggest you look at the other sacred wisp builds including the low damage ones since their damage doesn't reflect the indigon scaling. So glad you showed the tornado addition thats a bigly increase.
this whole time I thought they made normal blast better than trans blast due to the explosion being tougher to hit the center target. As you said, tornado changes everything seems my dream of kinetic blast isn’t over yet
Ive lost the fiath in Your buildbuilding skils like 2 leagues ago, but oh boy , this league u rocking, one build featured on dreamcore channel coz he was amazed with ur defences, and now this. BIG UP !
I'm waited soo long for someone to do something with that skill haha I hope there will be some form of fast mapper with 200ms+ without mage blood and tormented spirits ;p
I am looking at your Maxroll link you posted in your description for this build guide, and I don't see it. Did you end up making a build guide for this build? Where is it. I see the PoEninja link on one set of gear. It's like to see how this build is grown in stages. I'm not rich by anymeans, so if it takes like 5 mirrors to get this started, then say so. I don't want to invest in something I'll never be able to play like Tornado Shot. Thanks
Alternatively you could take build vids for what they are, smth to learn about builds. This skill and stuff you learned about it doesn't go away, even long after the hype dies down. PoE is one of the most "knowledge is power" games there are, comments like this always baffle me.
@@Palsteron You're right, I'm sorry I didnt thank you for the all the nice content you make, hope you manage to make it work on a 100 to 200d budget, I cant wait for your full build guide about it
I love skills with cool visuals that are also nice to play and this sure ticks that box. For those of us (that's me) that don't have a lot of time, it would be nice if there's a version of this without the high cost. I have a feeling though that it is not possible with this one. Another skill that has great visuals is Storm Rain, no one really does that though. It is a weird skill, being part projectile and something else?
two well rolled grace of the goddess would be really nice wands also not sure if cheaper though seing as they come from uber Maven and have HUGE roll variance
Ey Palsteron, can you please doublecheck if you get forgers grip with haunted by spirits, if it overrides your current spectres (it casts raise spectre)
I love that you found a way to make this skill not only good & viable but downright amazing. I HATE that THIS is what's required to make it viable as a skill period. It's either death-cluster everything or an unusable skill. 0% viable or 100% viable beast. Well done tho.
Fury valve amulet for this build? Like added projectiles added instead added how peijectile splits toward. Like instead of splitting to 3 it gonna split like 5-6
if you get one wand with half the mods and another with the other half, then you can mush them together and blam! it failed again and now you are broke :(
just take the same thing and scale it down yourself. It's like 1 month into the league, no one makes budget builds, if you're still poor then thats your fault. Also Mana stackers are super easy to league start with 0 currency. Just go play and it'll kill shit, it's that easy. If you really want a guide then jungroan probably has a league start PS mana stacker build guide, saw him toying with the idea earlier and said its an option for gauntlet. It's the same shit as this but different skill setup
ive been playing archmage power siphon totems i just swapped to kinetic blast with no optimizations whatsoever and its absurd how much damage it does. i have no clue how to correctly pob it but it just deletes everything on the screen including bosses lol. using frenzy with coc tornado and focussed ballista feels so good to play also.
In Affliction league I tried Kinetic Bolt of Fragmentation which reduced my FPS to 1 frame per minute. Not sure if the PS5 can handle this one. that said, how does it interact with Nimis?
Poorly. You have one projectile fired in a random direction. This both breaks the Tornado/Fork setup and forces you to stand inside anything you want to consistently hit, which may be a stretch defensively.
recombinate is best way to craft every item ingame as long as the base item is accessible. Watch any crafting guide for any random item using recombinators and use the same logic for the wand mods. Expect to invest ~20div to get 3 desirable mods, maybe 50div for 4 mods, and 5/6 become exponentially higher
playing PS int stacker at a somewhat high investment (500+d at this point) and been struggling to push its dps to the level i want (instant kill t17 boss type dps, currently at ~15m but thats after a few seconds of ramping). Would this be a viable alternative to improve that? Dont care much about clearspeed, all wand skills clear the entire screen instantly, just want a super tanky int stacker trickster build with 50m+ dps and ok clear that isn't lightning strike. Not going mana stacker, its such a bait with indigon, you sit at 0 mana and die instantly to any degens. Had that with old kinetic bolt of fragmentation but that doesn't seem to work anymore
@@marv5892two wands and the 12 passive cluster itself are already close to 400div-ish I think? But its definitely not as expensive as say int stacking kb
Looks like a nice build, but i doubt it will feel nearly as good at low-mid budget. It's build for farming for people who doesn't need farming anymore.
Full build guide out: th-cam.com/video/aP1feqDmHfE/w-d-xo.html
nice vid bro. pls add how to craft the wands in the guide so we dont pay 300d for them XD ty
seeing a hh + two haunted + indigon is a beautiful build concept.
yep the wand is 300d atm. lmao
Could you just use obliteration before making the wand ? You scale phys and the wand has 40% phys as extra chaos and explody
And half of the clusters and gear is too
Hope anyone planning to try this build got all the core pieces, prices already 10x on the market now, truly a poe moment.
Yeah, a lot of builds look nice when you've sunk 400-600d into it. The tormented spirits enchants alone are around 200d. Both weapons have quintuple BiS T1 mods with an open affix. Actually, pretty much most of the gear is unbelievably good. I'm not sure if 400-600d is even a sufficient estimation for the gear in this vid.
@@Veginite exactly lol, i like how he says hes only level 92 as if 6 extra levels make up for hundreds of divines in gear
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@@Veginite oh the gear are not even what I meant by core, the KBoC and AFork specifically lmao.
@@Veginite What the f are you even talking about?
Do you expect people to showcase league start builds a month into a league?
Yes, the build will be expensive.
Btw enchant is barely 100div, since PR is atm 4div -> 26div per both wands + trash runes.
Budget armour is easily craftable or purchasable solid fracture base for 10-20 divines.
Helical Ring will be the biggest pain in the ass, yet you can surely work around with budget craft aswell.
Forbidden jewels are like 150div combined. Hard to say if you need it to run the build tho.
Imho its easily runnable under 200div, which is easy budget at this point if you play daily.
My Computer already in pain just watching video, must be a pal build GIGACHAD looks cracked
Try Vaal LS Spam build haha
Ruthless player not used to visual clutter lol
@SZABIZS1 I played mine till about lvl 90... shit burned tf out of my eyes 🤣💯
ur gonna make a trickster version arent u ahahah
I played the ballista version of this thing last league and loved it. When the skill was first revealed I was shocked it didn't get more attention considering how much phys you can get from it. A dream skill to pair with HH.
Cuz mana stacker are more willing to go with archmage,
What i love the most about Pals builds is that they basically always feel good to play.
I have played this since league start, but with normal KB and fury valve. The problem with fury valve is single proj targeting but the spell slinger tornado makes the split autotarget. So you just click in any direction and it shits all over the screen. Play style is great. Playing deadeye with chain and maxing projectiles for insane overlap. Great headhunter build.
And they have a headhunter....😅
@@d0rf3n hey. can you show me on discord?
gem 21/20 is now 10d, freak flippers
tbf there was not much in market to begin with
same with the forbidden jewels .... skyrocketed to 100 d
Wait till you see the forbidden jewel combo lmao
@@jihyothegod2628Exactly like who would play kinetic blast of whatever
That's the nature of the beast with player-driven markets. Can't be avoided
exactly what ive been looking for in ssf ive got a good alrounder but not an insane clear build yet
cant wait for the build guide
Thanks for this. I was trying to figure this setup out just before league start, but didnt think about awakened fork and tornado tech. Glad someone figured it out! Great job, glad for some vindication about the sleeper potential on this gem
I ran this last league and felt like everyone was sleeping on it! I was mostly just trying out the Maven wand and the Sacred Wisps but it felt great. Definitely want to try it again with some of your improvements :D
This will be my final build for this league can’t wait for the complete guide
This is a build for TripolarBear and his sunglasses
I like the way you're demonstrating the theory of your builds before making them because it encourages people to develop their own version and understand the game. At the end of the day imparting game knowledge to the community is more valuable than specific builds.
When I tried this skill at the start of the league, the turnoff for me was that I had to connect to get the explosions and that's why I abandoned it. I didn't even think that tornado would solve that . Great Idea, I'll probably try it out at some point this league. Cheers!
nice new best build for 5way legion :) and GPU delition
What a cool build. Love seeing more niche skills being used
KB niche? idk about that :D
I did uber lab the other day and saw this gem. It caught my eye so i took it and kept it thinking it had potential. Cool to see it in fact does. I'll probably try this out as my next build
looks like a banger - definatly try this next and give some feedback in your stream soon, thanks man
Your the , keep it up.
Is there a budget version of this? Build guide coming out for leveling and such?
Any phys wander generally does not feel good at all or perform well on a budget. 50 Div+ recommend without including headhunter
no clue, gonna try a leaguestart setup before next league but it'll look significantly different (obviously)
@@Palsteron I would definitely be interested in learning whether this is league start viable at all for next league.
Lol the content creator curse is real. Pre-vid the flesh and flame could have been had for like 30 div. Now they cost 120+
Is it a curse? It's literally just supply and demand
@@brofst it isnt, some richt ppl manipulate market
Cant wait to try this build, all the build that you make feels good to play
Master Chef Palsteron at it again cooking away in his kitchen
Damn the clear is nice. Thanks for sharing
I wish I had the time to sit down and figure this stuff out for myself. since I can't, im glad you are here to show me💪
I've been thinking and thinking that this move must be OP and was pretty sure it'd be expensive. I bought some items in anticipation of this kind of video and suggest you look at the other sacred wisp builds including the low damage ones since their damage doesn't reflect the indigon scaling. So glad you showed the tornado addition thats a bigly increase.
Yo pal how do you make them wands?
this whole time I thought they made normal blast better than trans blast due to the explosion being tougher to hit the center target. As you said, tornado changes everything
seems my dream of kinetic blast isn’t over yet
I came across this build on ninja, its nutty.
Ive lost the fiath in Your buildbuilding skils like 2 leagues ago, but oh boy , this league u rocking, one build featured on dreamcore channel coz he was amazed with ur defences, and now this. BIG UP !
Thank god I already built around this skill 3 weeks ago :)
Add awakened chain and you absolutely chug through abyss, expedition, legion etc
Finally something like CoC Blazing Salvo - will most likely do this build after I'm done whit my current build as I love these messy builds
I'm waited soo long for someone to do something with that skill haha I hope there will be some form of fast mapper with 200ms+ without mage blood and tormented spirits ;p
Nice. Do you have a league start version of this build?
I am looking at your Maxroll link you posted in your description for this build guide, and I don't see it. Did you end up making a build guide for this build? Where is it. I see the PoEninja link on one set of gear. It's like to see how this build is grown in stages. I'm not rich by anymeans, so if it takes like 5 mirrors to get this started, then say so. I don't want to invest in something I'll never be able to play like Tornado Shot. Thanks
Everytime I'm excited when I see the video, then I see your multi mirrors gear and I'm like yeah never happening
Alternatively you could take build vids for what they are, smth to learn about builds. This skill and stuff you learned about it doesn't go away, even long after the hype dies down. PoE is one of the most "knowledge is power" games there are, comments like this always baffle me.
@@Palsteron You're right, I'm sorry I didnt thank you for the all the nice content you make, hope you manage to make it work on a 100 to 200d budget, I cant wait for your full build guide about it
Stuff like this is yet another reason that POE is so great
The skill looks amazing!
You are the first guy who make this gem shine. ❤
Holy shit this looks awesome!
Very much like the tornado on spellslinger idea
I love skills with cool visuals that are also nice to play and this sure ticks that box. For those of us (that's me) that don't have a lot of time, it would be nice if there's a version of this without the high cost. I have a feeling though that it is not possible with this one.
Another skill that has great visuals is Storm Rain, no one really does that though. It is a weird skill, being part projectile and something else?
Hey Palsetorn any shot you can do a reasonable SSF variant?
two well rolled grace of the goddess would be really nice wands also not sure if cheaper though seing as they come from uber Maven and have HUGE roll variance
when is the build coming?
And I just rolled jung's ps of the archmage build which was absolutely goated. Now the cost of mana gear is gonna go through the roof.
Ey Palsteron, can you please doublecheck if you get forgers grip with haunted by spirits, if it overrides your current spectres (it casts raise spectre)
Nice video! Build of the league
I love that you found a way to make this skill not only good & viable but downright amazing.
I HATE that THIS is what's required to make it viable as a skill period. It's either death-cluster everything or an unusable skill. 0% viable or 100% viable beast. Well done tho.
Have you checked if it can "collide" with flame wall?
Flame wall does not create a collision, it only imbues the proj with flat added fire. Try it with regular KB to check.
whats the current budget? and whats the minimum budget to kickstart?
Fury valve amulet for this build? Like added projectiles added instead added how peijectile splits toward. Like instead of splitting to 3 it gonna split like 5-6
always comin out with killer builds
So then Tornado can be used also with Spectral shield throw and effect would be the same?
What is the starting Budget to get rollin?
200d lmao
Do you have a min/maxed version?
Hey. Playable on Scion or Occultist or ....only on Templar?
"oh cool, i wont need a mageblood" 5 min later "oh shit, this is a multi mirror build"
As a league if legends player, this spell reminds me of one of Lucians abilities, Nice!
I gotta stop gettingso high, i mixed the Kinetic Blast of C and the Ward builds together 😉
I just rolled SSFHC. Am I going to have to return to softcore trade? This looks so good
graftet the gloves, made a mistake :) so had to vail 2 times lol,
Hi Pal, wchich mods should be on watcher's eye on this build ?
how to level for this build? quite new to this game
This video made me 2 div. Had one just sitting in my box.
a lot of people don't play this skill because it drops FPS like crazy my pc crashs a lot with this skill
Is there any guide on how to craft the wands please? :) Or someone to explain i would appreciate, thanks!
look up grace of the goddess for cheap unique alternatives, running 2 of them now and crushing T17s while farming currency to craft the wands
@@daibaandtheghostmachine8952 Im using those currently, but I just can't understand how they force craft mana on it, do you know maybe?
Does the blast not need accurate rate?
How did you increase the field of view? my game is very close
Part of the Atlas hideout, which is part of the Voidborn supporter pack, which isn't available anymore.
Don't really want to play mana-stack and i wander if there's of possibility of cooking something with slayer
@Palsteron how to craft this wands with recombs?
if you get one wand with half the mods and another with the other half, then you can mush them together and blam! it failed again and now you are broke :(
Time to switch my ice nova to this!
hi , can u put pob for deadeye please?
Looks good bro
is it possible to play pure phys impale wander ?
Any chance you could post a version for someone that works 50 hours a week and has a 10 div budget? *grovel*
Not possible
just take the same thing and scale it down yourself. It's like 1 month into the league, no one makes budget builds, if you're still poor then thats your fault.
Also Mana stackers are super easy to league start with 0 currency. Just go play and it'll kill shit, it's that easy. If you really want a guide then jungroan probably has a league start PS mana stacker build guide, saw him toying with the idea earlier and said its an option for gauntlet. It's the same shit as this but different skill setup
what happens if you have +1 Pierce on your gear? On your first hit you pierce and the returning Projectile cannot fork right?
Yep since pierce happens before fork
can you make leveling gide for this build
ive been playing archmage power siphon totems i just swapped to kinetic blast with no optimizations whatsoever and its absurd how much damage it does. i have no clue how to correctly pob it but it just deletes everything on the screen including bosses lol. using frenzy with coc tornado and focussed ballista feels so good to play also.
In Affliction league I tried Kinetic Bolt of Fragmentation which reduced my FPS to 1 frame per minute. Not sure if the PS5 can handle this one.
that said, how does it interact with Nimis?
Poorly. You have one projectile fired in a random direction. This both breaks the Tornado/Fork setup and forces you to stand inside anything you want to consistently hit, which may be a stretch defensively.
Since phys as ele dmg mods are good for this does this mean the maven wands are good with this?
Yep, there was a video posted about a week ago with a guy using 2x maven wands with a similar setup
@@luc_xott can you link the video please? Most likely I'll be playing Pal's version but just wanna check it out and compare.
for budget probably but you cant tormented ghost unique wands
@@MyNameIsSalo yeah, true. Was thinking of it as a budget setup
Does anyone have tips for crafting the wands?
recombinate is best way to craft every item ingame as long as the base item is accessible. Watch any crafting guide for any random item using recombinators and use the same logic for the wand mods. Expect to invest ~20div to get 3 desirable mods, maybe 50div for 4 mods, and 5/6 become exponentially higher
Cant you also run ele with Hydrosphere for the same sorta tech?
you can only hit hydrosphere once every second
"If you look at the mini map"
I cant see your minimap 😅😂
Basically anything that can shotgun abuses tornado. RIP tornado :(
Can i use this skill insted of ice nova of frost bolt?
I want to play this build but my rtx 970 will sue me
league start posible?
how to craft the wands?
looks like 90ish to 100M, I had been looking at this skill for so long not daring to do samething whit it. will try ty!
playing PS int stacker at a somewhat high investment (500+d at this point) and been struggling to push its dps to the level i want (instant kill t17 boss type dps, currently at ~15m but thats after a few seconds of ramping). Would this be a viable alternative to improve that? Dont care much about clearspeed, all wand skills clear the entire screen instantly, just want a super tanky int stacker trickster build with 50m+ dps and ok clear that isn't lightning strike. Not going mana stacker, its such a bait with indigon, you sit at 0 mana and die instantly to any degens.
Had that with old kinetic bolt of fragmentation but that doesn't seem to work anymore
can this build used to farm 5 way?
Hello is this what 5-way farmers use?
They use normal KB
How expensive will this be? 300-500 div?
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@@marv5892two wands and the 12 passive cluster are already 400div-ish? I would say the whole build goes around 7-800d?
@@marv5892two wands and the 12 passive cluster itself are already close to 400div-ish I think? But its definitely not as expensive as say int stacking kb
His wands alone is 2 mirrors bro xd. Its a banger but very expensive if u want it to be like this.
@@itsyaboypepega9517 Where on earth do u see mirror wands here
Hum and without insane wands ?
Forking great !!
the real question is, do all these dmg and clearing worth the eye cancer i am goona have after playing this build?
isn't that what we play PoE for? We want big flashy builds that cover the entire screen. If you don't want that then go play ruthless
Looks like a blaster.
pal again with build of the league material... wtf man, how you come up with all these amazing builds!
It makes a sharknado
Looks like a nice build, but i doubt it will feel nearly as good at low-mid budget. It's build for farming for people who doesn't need farming anymore.
Can this benefit from nimis?
stop and think about how nimis works. "Projectile fired in random direction" paired with the whole "skill MUST HIT TORNADO OTHERWISE IT DOES NOTHING"