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- In the vast universe of Pokémon, few games have left as indelible a mark as Pokémon Diamond, Pearl and Platinum. You'll find a lot of information on the Generation IV of Pokémon games such as Secrets, Mysteries, Unused Content and things that most probably you didn't know about these games. Welcome to the Pokémon Diamond, Pearl and Platinum Iceberg.
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Let's make a Gen V iceberg together. Leave your entries here and I'll mention you in that iceberg. Happy New Year !
Pretty obvious but… THE ORIGINAL DRAGON!
Fire red and leaf green please!!!
Ghetsis' right eye and arm
The P2 lab. One of the craziest real-world references
Pokemon Grey
I'll never get over Flint having a Steelix, Lopunny and DRIFBLIM as a Fire Elite Four Member. It's excusable in Generation 1 with Agatha and Lance but in Generation 4?
Or the fact that If you don't choose Chimchar as your starter, you'll only have Ponyta and Rapidash until the Elite 4
@@RealEisenBerg As a Turtwig chooser this did happen to be. Having a Ponyta until 40+ is a real pain as well
That gym was literal death
Idk why people complain about mix matching types in gen 4 when it makes it cooler, especially if it’s like a signature pokemon. I think someone like Jasmine using Ampharos or Iris using draconic like Pokemon is raw
I mean I think there was a reason for it besides the dex being small
Drifblim is a HOT air balloon
I forgot steelix's reason
And Lopunny, is, well.. See the resemblance to hot and hot
I feel as though Rotom was originally intended to be legendary. Rotom had the legendary battle music, it’s grouped towards the end of the Pokédex with the rest of the legends, it has a unique way of encountering it and it has the multiple forms. I think it wasn’t until later down the line when they decided to change it.
I totally thought it was when I was a kid, and even to this day still regard it as a pseudo legendary at the very least.
I dont think so even in gen 4 you could breed with Rotom there was Never legandary Pokémon you could breed with
@@sebastianschulze2618 True but so could Manaphy, both introduced in Gen 4
@@NosteralGaming Yes, you're referring to Manaphy, which is inspired by the Turritopsis dohrnii jellyfish that can revert its cells to potentially live indefinitely. As a result, Manaphy doesn't produce Manaphy eggs but a weaker version. Rotom can be bred normally. I think It might have been a test for the Zorua treatment. While not legendary in the first part of Generation 5, Zorua was challenging to obtain (only via Event) but breedable and Not legendary
Technically there is one practical use of diamond dust, it’s the only way you can start the battle against Red on Mt Silver without hail active
23:53 There is also a third theory: The Pokémon Arceus, which is captureable, are the "hand" of the original Arceus. If you analyze the original rendering, the four legs and the head form the shape of a hand.
So we kind of never capture the real Arceus, just one of the hands
This is possibly disproven by Legends: Arceus since the guy gifts you an avatar of himself after you beat him. This means that all of the previous Arceus that the player could catch in the previous games are just clones/avatars and therefore not the real thing.
The funny thing about the Beta Sprites is that Beta Giratina was'nt even supposed to be Giratina in the first place,according to the name it was given which was "Chimairan",so the concept of Giratina came much later after they dropped "Chimairan" design but we can see some elements of " Chimairan" present in Giratina,especially since both have 6 legs,i love those Beta stuff,by far the Beta of Gold/Silver and the ones of Diamond/Pearl are the ones that i liked the most
I still sometimes forget that Rotom is just a regular-ass Pokemon 😭 like why would they give it such a cinematic intro 22:06 a weird method of finding it, AND the literal legendary music???
Seriously, I had a heart attack when I accidentally found it for the first time as a kid. For the LONGEST time, I genuinely believed it was legendary.
Always thought it was a mythic back in the day. Only until like a few years back I wasn't aware that it's just regular.
I'm almost positive it was intended as a legendary, but they walked it back in later generations.
I think the encounter is cooler with legendary music I don’t know why everyone finds it weird or complaining about it, it’s just a cool encounter in Gen 4 , get over it
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Confusion ≠ complaining
Chanseys healthbar taking a "inhumane" amount of time to go down made me crack up 😂
love the videos, keep it up!
making a sick day a little better
They should've had some more Fire-types in Pokemon DP. Either of Vulpix, Growlithe, Magmar or Houndoom could fit very well in the region or perhaps even Torkoal in the Fuego Ironworks
New title:
Iceberg | Pokémon Arceus Edition
Back then i believed Rotom was a legendary
18:12 Japanese learner here! "Tsuchi" is the Kanji's Kunyomi pronouncation. It has 2 other pronounciations when it is Onyomi. They are "To" and "Do". I know that this comment was a bit off topic but it's sorta on topic because you talked about that Kanji. I just wanted to leave a fun fact in the comments.
37:11 Love how Combee's beta sprite is just 3 larva looking Digletts
It is funny how people think eating Pokémon is cruel since they are your partners during the game. But isn‘t it the same for our real world? (I am not a vegan, this is just a thought)
As I see it, everything can be food if you put your mind to it.
PLA will get its seperate Iceberg! Nice! Looking forward to it!
Been watching you channel all day as im sicker then a dog. So thank you so much for that
Yessss I love the pokemon iceberg videos. Commenting for engagement, keep up the good work!
Hell yeah. Pokemon Platinum kicks ass.
Amazing video as always, I can't wait for unova
Just when I think I’ve learned everything I can about Pokémon lore I watch your videos. Keep up the good work! 🎉
Thanks a lot, Mike! There's way, way more to come!
@@RealEisenBerg I can’t wait to watch them!
very nice video, as always!
Bro you should have warned us in the beginning of the video. Absolute banger alert.
Another pokemon iceberg! lets goo!!
In terms of the Distortion World, I don't really see it as 'hell' as much as I do a sort of purgatory.
If you have a Pokémon Pearl/Diamond connect to a Pokémon Platinum game in the Grand Underground, the sprite for the Platinum player on Diamond/Pearl will display as the Diamond/Pearl sprite instead of the Platinum. On Platinum, both versions of the player sprites are present.
Another good video!
When I played pearl, it was my girst pokemon game...and I was a kid.
Didnt know you could run so I walked or biked all game.
Another Pokémon Iceberg lets go
Let’s go imma watch this on break 🔥
i have a pocket book of a sinnoh dex from the 2000’s and it states rotom is a legendary, but now they changed it );
Swordman: slays pokemon until they disappear
Giratina : Not. Cool. Dude.
Swordman: understandable *proceeds to break sword
25:24 hey, this is really cool and I like this interpretation a LOT
Surely Game Freak take inspiration from things we don't even know. Greetings!
Also, game-wise, you can raise friendship simply by battling with it, and ofc, trying to avoid it fainting so it won't lose too much friendship, so, not that impossible for iceman Cyrus to have a Crobat
Nice Video bro!
Very smart explanation! Thanks a lot!
Gen 4 is probably one of my favorite gen because it introduced the literal Pokemon God and it is where Cynthia and Garchomp debuted.
Cynthia is regarded as the strongest Champion in the games. As of BDSP, her 2nd rematch and Level 88 Garchomp towers above Red as her team has perfect IVs, EVs and competitive held items and sets.
Garchomp is my favorite Pokemon. From Pokemon Y to Pokemon Violet, my Jolly 5IV HA Garchomp has all the ribbons. (I couldnt start at Gen 4 as there is no HA back then and there was no way to change abilities back then. There is also no ribbons on Gen 5 so I started with Y, Gen 6)
Also, did you know that in PLA Arceus himself stated that the Arceus we see and capture is nothing but a portion of himself? Just an avatar of sorts. Which means, just like Complete Kyurem, true form Arceus is yet to be revealed.
Uploaded just in time to watch while cooking
These are always good
RE: Arceus' name, I say it exactly how Silvally's ability is named: Arr-Kay-Ess.
Arceus' name is derived from "Arcane" and "Arch-" (as in ancient, like archaeology and such) and "Deus." There's an "Ay" sound in both the full words in there. Plus it's fun to just be kinda annoying like that.
Anyway, Gen IV best Gen. I love it in all its forms, yes even BDSP, I always have a blast playing it.
This. I was gonna mention about Sillvallys ability being a reference to Arceus as well.
11:38. I totally can relate. My first wild shiny was in gen 2, a wild houndour. WHICH ROARED ME AWAY FIRST TURN 😭 I’d never fought a wild houndour! I didn’t even know they had roar!!!
I like it how some of the early gen 3 sprites are actually somewhat different from what we got in the end, and some of them are just Microsoft Paint versions of the current ones. I’m not trying to make fun of anything though, it just goes to show that some awesome ideas have humble beginnings.
This is exactly what I've been waiting for. the best generation
Nahhhh
@@Obama3ryk nah you're just wrong
@@Vitamin_Bleach2 gen 4 is mid
@@Obama3ryk definitely younger then 15
@@Vitamin_Bleach2 turning 17 this year
Dr house one is so cool, I just started watching the series not too long ago
With shaymins cry, it has the same amount of chirps as the amount if sillibles in the phrase, "I want to thank you".
I prefer Hikari's DP dress over her Platinum dress. I do agree that Platinum has better gameplay.
0:29 at the time? No bro it still is
About the 1000 arms of Arceus thing:
I've heard a theory that the Arceus that we can catch _is_ one of its arms. The only evidence for this is that Arceus somewhat resembles a human hand. But it also explains why a regular human can catch it, it's just a tiny piece of Arceus that it's allowing humans to interact with.
It's explained in LPA
How tf does arceus look like a hand?
@@supersaiyankirby google images "arceus hand"
@@supersaiyankirby flip him upside down and think of his neck/head as a thumb and the four legs as the other fingers.
You were probably already informed that arceus is confirmed to have a never seen true form(its pokedex in pla literally says recieve a PART of arceus)however if you look at its boss fight it uses the signature move of all 3 the creation trio moves it cannot learn peoving that even the avatar we get is actively limiting itself.
Amazing video!! Soryy I replied late to the hellbell stuff :(((
As a kid I always pronounced it ArKEYus until I played battle revolution. Naturally, now I only say ArSEEus. It just stuck with me
The opinion that HG/SS are the best Pokemon games is far from universal, I feel like I see more people hyping up B2/W2 than any other game. I personally consider Crystal to be the best by far
gen 2 is the worst gen by far tho
@@potatoman2580Which is why HGSS is awesome, it allows you to get gen 3 and 4 poiemon in a Gen 1/2 game
@loganstewart3675 yeah hgss is very cool. still has some gen 2 problems but is very enjoyable
crystal on the other hand is garbage
Very good, but I wish you'd have included stuff like the red chain as a key item (unobtainable), seen it a long time ago in an Italian tutorial on how to perform the elite 4 void surf glitch to catch Darkrai using an R4 flashcard, he would show how to switch the save file from the Italian rom to the Japan Japanese one, and he had it in his key items while scrolling down to assign the explorer kit to Y... He also had a bunch of other weird key items which I can't remember... Obviously cheated, but makes you wonder if these items were supposed to be obtained by the player, changing the story.
Great coverage anyway, blasted this one right after discovering you from then RSE video which in just the first 2 minutes I was blown away at the surface level lmao, very good researching ^_^
Giratina exist and doesn't exist at the same time
Director of Arceus movie confirmed, that meteor almost killing Arceus is plot hole, because Arceus is too powerful to be hurt by something like this
Arceus looks like hand
31:04 maybe Crobat needs friendship with the player, but the inverse is unnecessary?
That Arceus theme was epic.
HM slave for gen 3 was linoone also having access to thunderbolt which was cool
Arceus should be "Ar see us" I can understand them not wanting to have a pokemon with "Arse" but in American English at least the way vowel/consonant rules work it would be "Ar See Us"
The beta Eterna city and Celestic town music is actually the Agate village theme from Pokémon Colosseum.
32:06 "Blow on it?"
That Arceus beta sprite tho 37:54
17:51 Best moment
I think it's more likely that the description of Arceus's thousand arms is a reference to the Buddhist deity Kannon, worshipped as a savior figure in Japanese mythology. Kannon's "Senju-Sengen" form is named for its thousand arms and thousand eyes.
The gen 4 clip for the comparison of slow makes no sense because zubat went first and blastoise went first so the luxio clip is obv going to be slower
Arceus is probably an non living body build from unknown and held constraint by the real one and it's power isn't fully unleashed as that would be a little too strong
To this day im still resetting for my bdsp shiny arceus
That House clip sent me
I remember playing Diamond in Jr school 8th grade, was the best time to be playing pokemon. 1-4th gen are the best gen. After that it kinda started going down hill, getting easier, with more tutorial, less independency, and uglier pokemon lol. Obviously an opinion, not fact but that's how I feel about it.
Marriland was one of my favorite youtubers.
Fun fact Arceus’ name comes from Ancient Greek’s αρχη, m which means power,authority and beginning. The pronunciation of αρχη is with an hard k
It seemed to be a waste that the Beta Garchomp line wasn’t used for Hisuinian forms in PLA
35:20 did you just make that Ariados booty bounce?
How about that there are 4 ice type Pokemon in DP? In the cold region?
And Abomasnow (don’t know the spelling) gets outclassed of Garchomp, so you need Weavile or your own Garchomp to beat Cynthia’s Garchomp without risk for your other Pokemon.
I believe most games on the DS were at 15fps thats why the combat was way slower
@@KryptKing I advise you to go and play the final fantasy 3 HD remake on steam which is also 15fps and put it next to the pixel remaster at 60 and youll see the difference in combat speed.
It's a common misconception that PAL-50 and NTSC-60 means game run at those refresh rates when they didn't, most games were between 15-30fps
Arkoos (if you know, you know)
37:40 bro😭😭😭
Objection! The Legendary trio from gen 2 had roaming encounters.
I can’t be the only one who really isn’t a big fan of arceus’ implementation? The series kinda did a creationism with its execution of the Pokémon. I like to imagine that it isn’t the creator of the universe but rather a creature that can harness the power and of everything.
What if for Rotom and such Pokémon like the Lucario line, the Zoroark line and the Volcarona line, we call them Pseudo/Semi/Sub/Minor-Mythical Pokémon? Since, you know, Pseudo-Legendary is already in use for something different and I believe Semi/Sub/Minor-Legendary is used for Legendaries that are not the box art ones. Those were definitely meant to be special, yet aren't legends or mythicals since they can breed normally and are rare or unique in-game but are not distributed by event so no mythicals yet again. So, to respect that specialness, I propose we call them Pseudo/Semi/Sub/Minor-Mythical Pokémon!
Out of those options I prefer Pseudo-Mythical, BTW
What about a arrowverse iceberg
Nah Cyrus just stole Crobat. Team Galactic were running around keeping people hostage and stealing their Pokémon so it’s most likely they just ended up stealing a Crobat and gave it to their boss
You forced my hand… so I had to be nice to my golbat
Maxie?! What’s he doing in Gen IV?
His best.
I will always say ar see us
I think that Arceus is meant to represent the actual real world people who created Pokemon. Why else would it show us real world photos? And if we think about it, even the unown (letters that form words which form stories) imply this since they clearly played a part in shaping reality.
In BDSP, isnt Cyrus still alive and well in the post game? He was battling in the Battle Tower. (Only in BDSP)
Based Registeele
Say his name
37:46 Wojakgigas
Hmm well in the case of Real God, God was never created and has always been. Probably the same for true form arceus
Are you MetroTechUniverse?
Arceus's name comes from alchemy. Its neither. Its actually (are-kay-us)
wrong, the real pronunciation of "arceus" is ARKOOS
/j
I now understand why gen 7 is so horrible. They tried to ride on the coattails of perfection. They failed miserably, and now have to live with the shame of attempting to top the best god damn generation we will ever have. No stupid gimmicks, rarely any horrible designs, and the best soundtrack the franchise will ever see.
The remakes weren't bad, they were amazing. 1:1 recreations because they didn't need to be anything more. Despite what the greedy shitbags will try to claim. Hey here's a fun game, remember all those modern fans being mad because the watches on the characters' wrists in the promotional material DIDN'T have connections to megas? Funniest shit I've ever see, cope harder modern fan (derogatory).
Since the unown are shaped as letters Maybe arceus and unown is a reference to Christian beliefs since they believe god created the universe with his words and this would explain why arceus needs the unown to create.
Who's gonna sign my petition to bring back the original Arceus sprite?
14:48 that's the wrong arm don't be a snowflake
It's pronounced Ar-quoi
There’s no way that unused gender difference thing is real. All the examples looks like like a child came up with them
They are I'm fact the reason they were scraped was that they'd have to redraw too many sprites there even exactly one poster with female charizard
Jesus christ 9 fucking ads in 13min just 13 min in and 9 fucking ads....
it takes like 50 seconds to install adblock on your browser
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Hgss are not at all universally loved. Gen 2 has a lot of hate due to the level curve being objectively bad. Its mathematically a bad rpg. And jhoto pokemon are extremely slow and weak. The remakes did not at all adress these glaring issues.
Some of this are really lame (Why is there a shiny fail on this vid 😂)Also why so many ads?
He didn't create the iceberg. Usually some 11 year old kid create these later Pokemon Gen icebergs.
I’m 27 minutes in and no ads
Just a troll who has been leaving negative comments on this channel for a while