There's tons of these! People have made AUs of AUs of AUs. MafiaTale is an AU of Underfell which is, of course, an AU of Undertale. People have made works inspired by MafiaTale, and other people have made works inspired by the works that were inspired by MafiaTale. The undertale Fandom is so deep sometimes, that it's incredible.
I’m like 2 minutes and you’re saying everything I’ve been telling people man! You’re just epic and obviously a clear thinker when it comes to this Sans Au stuff. 100% and would support 👍🏽
Yeah, that's the reason UTMV needs every AU to have it's canonized version, and that's why we should divide it into CanonVerse and FanonVerse, just for the sake of not starting a pointless war, but just letting the Fanon narratives to be, but unrelated to the original and it's multiverse created by RESETS instead of cringy "creators"
At this point their is like 3 diffirent types of aus 1-Re skin 2-Sans super powerfull no au super powerfull thw most powerfull (op sans) 3-edgy edge edge about (Most of the time) Sans (And the secret fourth one the actually good written au that doesnt just focus on sans and sometimes papyrus.)
inverted fate : don't let your mistakes take over dusttale : redeem yourself to feel the good and never do the same mistake horrortale : balance underfell : everyone is more tired than before but they are the same person underswap : swap undertale : origins
The undertale community literally just worships sans and treats him like he is some godlike entity that can destroy every ounce of reality with one thought. HE IS A LAZY SKELETON WHO DIES IN ONE HIT
Cannon sans isn’t a retired scientist there’s no proof of him being a scientist it’s not once said he’s a scientist it’s not even confirmed the Time Machine is his it’s not even his house it’s papyrus house and sans is knowledgeable about knowing what timelines are and not resets but he only knows that he doesn’t know as much as alphys
@@void-droid1855 1: the shop keep said the brothers just showed up one day and the town has gotten a lot more interesting since their was nothing said about papyrus owning the house and sans's mail box is full of mail most likely bills 2: sans has a secret room behind the house that looks like a lab and has blue prints everywhere and a strange thing under a cover 3: he counts how many times he's killed you and so can asgore but not much sans and asgore know about loading cuz they can tell how much times you've died unlike flowey who knows everything because he did it to 4: if sans knows about time lines witch he does then he would be a scientist because the monster school wasn't mentioned teaching kids about the laws of physics and time 5: no one but flowey knows about the resets when you reset in the game and repay it everyone gets dayshavoo they feel like the new start happened before but can't confirm it witch is something like ground hogs day witch I'm not explaining 6: conversation is over it was awful to meet you stranger have a nice day and goodbye 🍄
@@shadowfox8084 the one issue is retired scientist which makes no sense because of the face it’s not cannon if he’s a scientist that machine can’t even be cannon to be his
I totally agree with you about IF's Sans premise, he has very interesting character development, just like the others do in Inverted Fate, like Asgore, Frisk, Alphys, Undyne (...) and of course, the one which is my personal favourite, Papyrus!
I have a concept for an AU. Undertale, but the amalgamates broke out of the true lab and caused an outbreak infection type of thing. This could be an interesting concept, and a possible new backstory for 🦴 🦴 🦴 🦴 🦴 🦴(if you know who they are, you know).
Basically UT Fanon(with experience): Gaster is an easter egg now he has all of the knowledge in there world, Sans is the smartest and strongest being(they really forgot asgore and flowey), Chara is always evil and always takes control when you're doing genocide, Turning canon au's to fanon then the fanon got somehow more popular, Making sans edgy and powerful(including papyrus), Forgot every single character except papyrus, sans, and gaster, Sans kill people even with a reason = Evil, Its the resets man, Sans and toriel love each other aka ship(how). And a lot more and i'm not saying i'm not one of them because im totally one of them, i wouldn't know this without being one of them.
When it comes to Flowey, I don't think he is that strong by himself, provided he doesn't have the power to reset or has acquired multiple human souls. I feel like without any boost, he would be barely stronger than any random encounters outside of Ruins. He himself acknowledges that Sans actually caused him a lot of resets. Although, I will agree that Asgore and likely Undyne may be much more powerful than Sans.
I agree with everything you said espically the things you said about horror sans I see a lot of people try to make horror sans a good guy or a cute monster
I like fandomshift chara cause he uses knife magic with asriel blaters, that make him bad ass plus his design with color pallette make him rememberable as character.
You forget that part when she dies in so many stupid ways, that no other "sans" had experienced (And yes, SS!Chara is female in canon) Usage of Asriel's blasters may, or may not make sense(depends on the way humans can and can't use their magic) Although, i'd prefer an Undertale-related version, with a hint on Undertale genocide, making them quite much more dangerous and powerful than anything else, up to standing againt chainsaw just fine And, in general, there should be a chance of them becoming the THING from the end of Unedertale genocide, after their soul is destroyed, preventing you from going anywhere, as well as screwing up your genocide run Like fr, in my opinion, if the genocide happened, that HATE can't just go away, even if it appears to not show itself
@@narrativeless404 For my take on SS Chara I'd have them only use knives, and fire magic. (The fire magic which they get by being taught by their brother Asriel and Toriel.) And that's about it. Nothing too confusing
@@narrativeless404 you describe devilovania? You know they say that megalovania in any form doesn't exist in canon StoryShift? Only megalo strike back maybe.
@@Ellesiumss I'm not talking about that Just the fact that Undertale Chara and Storyshift are connected(basically SS was UT Chara at some point) And nothing else
0:43 dont forget chara as they are also the focus sometimes as well but yea undertale aus need to be more unique and that sans shouldn't be the focus all the time-
@@narrativeless404 but the REAL question is... Why dose the fandom always thinks Chara is the "villain" though don't they ever realized that it was US the player who did all of this for no reason in fact Chara did nothing but just narrative the things you do like that though.
@@ezeahrizcalupas6280 Well, not quite just that They help us on every route They help us to complete any of them, except neutral where you just leave with confused thoughts In genocide, Chara takes down Sans and those that remain afterwards, finishing it all with a destruction of the timeline itself In pacifist they also helped us by granting the ability to SAVE the lost souls, including Asriel, and also make Asriel remember their with Chara's past Although, Asriel basically rejects Chara after this, probably because he's temporarily not soulless and can't sense Chara, and that's why he's thinking they're gone(i always thought what was Chara's reaction to this, since they did never show it) Fandom is just dumb Most of the newcomers are just kids(just stupid and naive) or edgy teens(cancerous edgy and toxic) Both of which are getting mislead by Fandom narratives into thinking Sans is good and god, Chara is evil, Frisk is pacifist As well as the game itself doesn't help much, if you just play or watch it without any research or diving deeper into it When you just play Undertale, it seems to support the Fanon narratives So, the 2 main reasons are: 1. Community 2. The lore is hidden
@@narrativeless404chara doesn’t attack sans. Even in pacifist you move without having to press anything. Chara didn’t have your soul either so it was more likely frisk who landed the final attack on sans.
Because of you I now thinking 'Murder' Sans as a infamous "saver" with weird style of technique that want to redeem himself. Like that part of 'murder' sans story where he save FRISK and created omega timeline (if I remembered correctly) and in an animation of undertale anime that dedicated to sans called underverse there was a door that can traveled who use it to the au' that door presented in that omega timeline. So now I think 'murder' Sans can travels between au' using just a door that he can summon anytime he want. Thank you for that, it making my day.
Nah thats all not true. Murder sans did not even create the omega timeline, its a white void that was founded by core frisk and named the omega timeline.
And, in fact, all of these stories doesn't make any sense Like, how can Sans fight back against Frisk/Chara and do something with the Chara, who's basically just a DT remnant, symbiote with Frisk soul, at this point When he couldn't fight back against Flowey and decided to screw everything and become lazy, just to not get depressed over his life situation
@@narrativeless404 what? Do you mean at the end of the game? Because he did kill Flowey multiple times flowey never got passed sans he says so after a couple playthoughs while mentioning the flowey fan club papyrus made. but if you mean the final fight on pacifist an easy reason is he believes your the time travel so it would be in his best interest not to interfere since you can go back in time and he knows it’s not the timeline where the timeline gets erased it’s not far fetched because he states that’s why he’s fighting you “seeing what comes next I can’t afford not to care anymore” after talking about everything coming to an end he only fights you because of that I know it was a poor explanation but the evidence should serve as enough it’s 3 am
@@cxrmack6922 Yes he did, but that was mainly when he was distracted mesaing with Papyrus, so he got sneak attacked by Sans He never said he didn't get past Sans
Toby Fox put a lot of effort into all his work, I have no problem with Fandom, But I think they should value and appreciate all the work and content in the game, or else the game could be called Sans.
@5:19 i really like horrortale, i just don't like how the fandom treats horror sans like he's a brother killer like dust or killer[im unsure about killer though] horror never killed his brother he's just hungry and would absolutely despise dust for what he did the second he found out about dust is a "dirty brother killer" he'd switch sides so fast it would make mettatons head spin. this is why i think mtt "murder time trio" could never work the way its presented in the fangames as horror has no want to be with a bunch of monster murderers. [maybe the way yamata's "villian sans squad" did it, could work though. As that way he's basally forced to comply and none of them actually want to work together but they are being forced to by nightmare.] did he kill humans yeah but that was so paps could eat, he's actively starving himself when aliza meets him meaning he's still just a normal sans, an angry human muderer but still just a sans. horror would never side with nightmare not even for food, even if he's way more aggressive and a human killer, he's not like them who like to hurt other monsters, sans still cares about monsters just not humans.
i don't mind inverted fate. i just don't like creator dorked since are a and I'm quoting my friend here who got in an argument with them over undertale "sore loser who can't admit when they are in the wrong." inverted fate used to be one of my favorites now because of the dorked i don't even bother reading it. last time i read it we had just met a certain boss.
@13:41 you know the only thing i really liked about some of the fandoms takes on asgore is their are a couple of comics where monsters do suffer the consequences for killing the fallen kids, there were so many other options on the table outside of murder, like just waiting it out since what we know most monsters will outlive a human by atleast 100years and asgore will outlive them all. so instead of murdering a bunch of kids just wait it out treat them like one of your own, that's the best revenge imo. in death they learn nothing but in life they can pass their knowledge down for others to learn. and i get it asgore was blinded by rage, but toriel is stated to be stronger then him if she stayed and not fled she could have made asgore see the light of mercy. there is a reason i only do genocide now: why should we players be the only ones to suffer consequences why do monsters get a happy ending it goes against everything the games genocide ending teachs us. nobody is above consequences for their actions. not humans, not players, AND NOT MONSTERS. every ending has a meaning but genocide is the only one that gets overlooked.
that show was goated. i loved how they made sans "the butt of the joke" which is in character for him, sans being a comedian [like he actually has a comedy show] would love this type of stuff and probably get some new material out of it.
they are litteraly dead bodies how people find them sexy and claim they aren't necrophiles is beyond me like damn. like i like the dreemurrs, but you don't see me saying "im not a furry" when people call me that. like if you like sans or paps in a "sexy way" your into dead body's just admit it we all know it.
Tbh I think the Undertale fandom just has a bad habit of exaggerating things and took out random parts of the stroy (heavily) like yeah sans is smart (to an extent) but his knowledge is nowhere near alphys or gaster for that manner. And again sans is strong but the community just makes him spam a million gaster blasters for no reason other than “he’s the strongest monster” which is completely false. Also sorry for the paragraph lol and if i said anything wrong u can just tell me.
Tbh. We don't exactly know thus far how powerful Gaster really is. Though I would say Asgore and likely Undyne are actually much stronger than Sans. I think that technically he is a fairly weak monster, but it so just happens that his abilities really play to the player's disadvantage in the genocide route (karmic retribution, the fact the player technically has only one type of attack). But in any other circumstance, he would likely be a much easier enemy. Especially if he got taken by surprise and had no time to dodge/teleport (which is exactly what happens at the end of the fight).
nah Underpants/SANNNESSSS is the strongest sans also dusttale sans and most other sans that you like started simply because of sans knowing about resets (dust saying he would remember that he didnt kill undyne and do it faster next time but his memories got erased and disbelief because sans remembers resets and literally almost every sans that have good stories are started because sans remembers the genocides
The Video is very good and detailed but theres one little thing that irritates me a bit. Why is every sentence as well as just singular words cut together? Not once is there even a small speech break and i think you cut these out? It doesnt really sound that good not gonna lie. You really hear the cuts and since every word/sentence is spoken with another breath if someone speaks so every word/sentence, that was cut in, sounds different and kind of gives the vibe of 'you took another audio and just cut the words in a different order'. It also makes the speech a bit too fast to follow at least for me.
To be honest i had Audio Problems and couldent hear how i edit the Audio, i only hear the Audio when i was finished with my Recording, and in the end i was to Lazy to do the recording again (i thought this Video would not be doing so well) But thanks for the Honest Feedback
Ut fandom:*sees egdy sans* lest sexulize him Ut fandom:*sees villian sans*lest make him hero then sexulize him Ut fandom:*sees funny, hero sans*lest sexulize him with villans Ut fandom:*sees horny(lust) sans*lest hate him for no reason
Honestly as annoying as fandom sans is he’s no where near as bad as fandom Chara. I mean even if we ignore all the countless evidence as Chara was most likely a flawed but still a good kid fandom Chara is so inconsistent. I mean on one hand they’re supposed to be this manipulative super strong genius who can take down the entire underground unless everyone works to get it to put a fight but the other half of the time they’re this obnoxious brat who throws tantrum in front of others, and gets easily defeated by frisk and sans to the point where they’re pretty much a joke.
And the worst part is they’re barely even considered a villain when they make them one 😭 like why are they always yapping 24/7 and then chara randomly comes for no reason has a fight, loses, then makes up another plan to do the exact same thing. And the fact that sans is stronger than chara in every story they make which basically gets rid of any point of fighting them all.
@@frostscythe910 thank you! Like I’m sorry but how the hell am I supposed to fear this supposed demon manipulating everyone into thinking they’re a good guy while secretly trying to plot all the murders when they get killed so easily by sans who barely even blinks! I mean, what’s the point why is anyone afraid of this person? If I were sans in this situation I’d be like “oh boy here we go again” and on top of that Chara is rarely ever actually portrayed as a manipulator! Or at least a good one! You’re telling me that Chara tricked the Dreamers into thinking they were this innocent child who could do no wrong, oh but also they’re this openly violent person who acts like a spoiled brat who anyone can see is a terrible person from the moon!
My biggest problems are the fact that they try so hard for you to hate everyone but sans in their stories and then fail so bad and the fact that they suck at making their own characters consistent. Imagine making your whole character edgy or evil and still sucking at that 😭
I hate fanon sans because I hate him :) Ok I hate fanon sans because how unrealistic I mean yeah many au is unrealistic but not unrealistic as fanon sans
Horror tales prequel chapter is actually extremely well written character wise in hindsight and I wish we got more of it as they’re characterization of sans and alphys is quite the highlight but I’d disagree that horrortale only villainized undyne and alphys the only reason it seems that way is due to the fact that we haven’t left snowdin in the comics yet and snowdin sympathies with sans also alphys was lobotomized by sans so she can’t really fight the allegations there’s a panel where Aliza is debating on who is right or wrong and sans blames himself for the hell that they are is and is just hella bitter about his existence at one point just asking the dogs why they put up with him asking them why they don’t hate him for causing this hell so not even sans thinks he’s blameless he just hates undyne and alphys but their maybe some projection in that aswell as more so hating the situation they put him in causing him to act that way I don’t think horrortale just victimizes sans I believe that’s fandom influence affecting your perception of the comic
Fanon sans: solos the verse and is super edgy “Canon” sans: the weakest character in the game and doesn’t care if his own brother dies Canon sans: statistically weak but cheats and hates you if you kill his brother, but doesn’t do anything because of his promise
Not exactly because of the promise. It’s more so because of the fact it can be reset and he knows that nothing really matters. Sans is depressed but not edgy depressed. He definetly still cares is papyrus dies though.
I may like the game but I didn't play undertale but see videos of it but I also the fandom and I'm now tired of the fandom shipping skeletons that are just brothers
Hahaha ha,yeah!!! you're got a point,a also realise how this Au's are kinda of rolling aroud the same ideas,some of theme have some god ideas,but yeah all of just ignore the other caracteres and just focuse on sans.....well🙂🙂🙂 I do that to😂😂 while a respected you're point of view, I can't imagine an Au whitout focusing on sans😂😂🤣🤣
@@narrativeless404 oh!! I see...!! but...comparing to others, glitchetale is one of a few who dosing focues on sans really hard .But he stiles a big part of the story
@@cara8033 He dies 2 times The only one time he took valuble part of the story is S1 Ep1 "Megalomaniac"(basically the old animation she didn't care much about back then) She actually was a Sans fangirl and had that distorted Fanon take on Chara, which she's got rid of by the time the series started Camila could definitely go the way Jakei did, but she didn't go wild with Sans AU and shit, which is indeed respectful
Problem is, horror sans literally is a villain so its kind of hard to see what you mean, lots of the people who read the comics think that sans took it to far ect ect, so I don't really understand your complaints, also horror sans lost a ton of his memorys so that could change his personality a bit... along with multiple of his friends dusting infront of him, hours of work and stress, being depressed and suicidal (maybe), having the one person who was working on fixing the underground scoop his eye out, and not eating for 7 years. Yea.... fun. Lots of people see him as a villain but in order to have a good villain you need good motivations and reasons, horror has those.
Alright rewatched and I understand what you're saying a little more, but honestly I see more people admitting he screwed up more than people giving him a pass, also he doesn't make Alizas life hell because he feels bad about his past, he does it out of boredom, food for his brother, and instinct, but you did get the feeling very guilty about his past as that was shown is the latest panels for the 1st ending
Uhh Don't you think that the very idea of the magic food source being the CORE is awkwardly stupid? They make the magic food themselves, only use they have for CORE is getting electricity from DETERMINATION(and they don't need much to have it working for long term)
What is bro talking about Wdym alphys created flowey? All she did was inject determinetion into a flower Thats not a huge feat right? I dont understand what is bro saying about the amalgamates They are like failed experiments right? A bunch of monsters melted and fused to each other Alphys built mettaton to impress asgore so he made her the royal scientist Even Catty and bratty even say she didnt have huge feats And bro is saying alphys is smarter than sans because he coudn't fix a "time machine" We dont even know what that is or if its fixed or not
She was the one who experimented on them so you obviously get the feat. Not to mention we don’t know how she injected the flower with determination. There’s no way she just stuffed a needle inside and put it in like that.
Sans isn't even that strong 1ATK 1DF he just dodges and hits you with karma damage he's just a glass poison main like if anything I'd love to see an Undyne and Frisk team up in an au instead of the laziest guy in the game who doesn't even do anything until everyone is dead
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@@bruhntastic3021 Sure whats up
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As this point, there probably is a Fanon!Fanon!Sans (a fanon version of Fanon Version of sans) out there.
Fannon fannon swap sans
There's tons of these! People have made AUs of AUs of AUs. MafiaTale is an AU of Underfell which is, of course, an AU of Undertale. People have made works inspired by MafiaTale, and other people have made works inspired by the works that were inspired by MafiaTale. The undertale Fandom is so deep sometimes, that it's incredible.
there is
@@maxfierri not what they meant, but true!
I’m like 2 minutes and you’re saying everything I’ve been telling people man!
You’re just epic and obviously a clear thinker when it comes to this Sans Au stuff.
100% and would support 👍🏽
Yeah, that's the reason UTMV needs every AU to have it's canonized version, and that's why we should divide it into CanonVerse and FanonVerse, just for the sake of not starting a pointless war, but just letting the Fanon narratives to be, but unrelated to the original and it's multiverse created by RESETS instead of cringy "creators"
True
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@@gamercentral2417 Why did you have to reply to this when you have no idea what the comment is about?
At this point their is like 3 diffirent types of aus
1-Re skin
2-Sans super powerfull no au super powerfull thw most powerfull (op sans)
3-edgy edge edge about (Most of the time) Sans
(And the secret fourth one the actually good written au that doesnt just focus on sans and sometimes papyrus.)
Facts
inverted fate : don't let your mistakes take over
dusttale : redeem yourself to feel the good and never do the same mistake
horrortale : balance
underfell : everyone is more tired than before but they are the same person
underswap : swap
undertale : origins
The undertale community literally just worships sans and treats him like he is some godlike entity that can destroy every ounce of reality with one thought. HE IS A LAZY SKELETON WHO DIES IN ONE HIT
Cannon sans:
Retired scientist
Funny
Lazy
Secretive
Fannon sans:
"CaN hE bEaT gOku"
Lol 🤣🤣
Cannon sans isn’t a retired scientist there’s no proof of him being a scientist it’s not once said he’s a scientist it’s not even confirmed the Time Machine is his it’s not even his house it’s papyrus house and sans is knowledgeable about knowing what timelines are and not resets but he only knows that he doesn’t know as much as alphys
@@void-droid1855
1: the shop keep said the brothers just showed up one day and the town has gotten a lot more interesting since their was nothing said about papyrus owning the house and sans's mail box is full of mail most likely bills
2: sans has a secret room behind the house that looks like a lab and has blue prints everywhere and a strange thing under a cover
3: he counts how many times he's killed you and so can asgore but not much
sans and asgore know about loading cuz they can tell how much times you've died unlike flowey who knows everything because he did it to
4: if sans knows about time lines witch he does then he would be a scientist because the monster school wasn't mentioned teaching kids about the laws of physics and time
5: no one but flowey knows about the resets when you reset in the game and repay it everyone gets dayshavoo
they feel like the new start happened before but can't confirm it witch is something like ground hogs day witch I'm not explaining
6: conversation is over it was awful to meet you stranger have a nice day and goodbye 🍄
@@shadowfox8084 it’s proven many monsters say they feel like they reexperiece the fights sans ain’t special
@@shadowfox8084 the one issue is retired scientist which makes no sense because of the face it’s not cannon if he’s a scientist that machine can’t even be cannon to be his
I totally agree with you about IF's Sans premise, he has very interesting character development, just like the others do in Inverted Fate, like Asgore, Frisk, Alphys, Undyne (...) and of course, the one which is my personal favourite, Papyrus!
to be honest fandom ruins a lot of things
The worst part is that no matter what game what cartoon or anything, the fandom will ruin it.
I agree, I'm mostly in the Pokémon Fandom, the amount of things I see on repeat really does ruin things I used to like.
One thing that makes Undertale fandom the worst above every fandom is it only focuses on just ONE CHARACTER!
U kill what u love,
@@theepic1944The anime Princess Tutu has a great fandom that generally don't flanderize characters
every undertale fan game is Sans spamming the shit out of you
But didn't you see the dev comments that said "this has been tested and a no-hit run is possible"
You're pretty underrated, subscribed!
I appreciate it!
This is why people are leaving the Undertale fandom.
I have a concept for an AU. Undertale, but the amalgamates broke out of the true lab and caused an outbreak infection type of thing. This could be an interesting concept, and a possible new backstory for 🦴 🦴 🦴 🦴 🦴 🦴(if you know who they are, you know).
I... I wish I didn't know... poor 🦴🦴🦴🦴🦴🦴
Soo…
When say breaks: Undertale Edition?
Basically UT Fanon(with experience): Gaster is an easter egg now he has all of the knowledge in there world, Sans is the smartest and strongest being(they really forgot asgore and flowey), Chara is always evil and always takes control when you're doing genocide, Turning canon au's to fanon then the fanon got somehow more popular, Making sans edgy and powerful(including papyrus), Forgot every single character except papyrus, sans, and gaster, Sans kill people even with a reason = Evil, Its the resets man, Sans and toriel love each other aka ship(how). And a lot more and i'm not saying i'm not one of them because im totally one of them, i wouldn't know this without being one of them.
When it comes to Flowey, I don't think he is that strong by himself, provided he doesn't have the power to reset or has acquired multiple human souls. I feel like without any boost, he would be barely stronger than any random encounters outside of Ruins. He himself acknowledges that Sans actually caused him a lot of resets.
Although, I will agree that Asgore and likely Undyne may be much more powerful than Sans.
I agree with everything you said espically the things you said about horror sans I see a lot of people try to make horror sans a good guy or a cute monster
0:57 you actually gave an idea for a au but it’s very different to this one. Thank you
21:28 Glad GG!UNDERFELL is used here, it's a pretty good UF take.
I've always thought this, Thank you Teach.
I like fandomshift chara cause he uses knife magic with asriel blaters, that make him bad ass plus his design with color pallette make him rememberable as character.
You forget that part when she dies in so many stupid ways, that no other "sans" had experienced
(And yes, SS!Chara is female in canon)
Usage of Asriel's blasters may, or may not make sense(depends on the way humans can and can't use their magic)
Although, i'd prefer an Undertale-related version, with a hint on Undertale genocide, making them quite much more dangerous and powerful than anything else, up to standing againt chainsaw just fine
And, in general, there should be a chance of them becoming the THING from the end of Unedertale genocide, after their soul is destroyed, preventing you from going anywhere, as well as screwing up your genocide run
Like fr, in my opinion, if the genocide happened, that HATE can't just go away, even if it appears to not show itself
@@narrativeless404 For my take on SS Chara I'd have them only use knives, and fire magic. (The fire magic which they get by being taught by their brother Asriel and Toriel.) And that's about it. Nothing too confusing
@@narrativeless404 you describe devilovania? You know they say that megalovania in any form doesn't exist in canon StoryShift? Only megalo strike back maybe.
Plus, i rather knive magic more than flower cause it will be harder to dodge and it will more damage you.
@@Ellesiumss I'm not talking about that
Just the fact that Undertale Chara and Storyshift are connected(basically SS was UT Chara at some point)
And nothing else
good points
0:43 dont forget chara as they are also the focus sometimes as well but yea undertale aus need to be more unique and that sans shouldn't be the focus all the time-
When they focus on Chara, it's nearly always about them committing genocide, which them relly never had any real intent for
@@narrativeless404 but the REAL question is... Why dose the fandom always thinks Chara is the "villain" though don't they ever realized that it was US the player who did all of this for no reason in fact Chara did nothing but just narrative the things you do like that though.
@@ezeahrizcalupas6280 Well, not quite just that
They help us on every route
They help us to complete any of them, except neutral where you just leave with confused thoughts
In genocide, Chara takes down Sans and those that remain afterwards, finishing it all with a destruction of the timeline itself
In pacifist they also helped us by granting the ability to SAVE the lost souls, including Asriel, and also make Asriel remember their with Chara's past
Although, Asriel basically rejects Chara after this, probably because he's temporarily not soulless and can't sense Chara, and that's why he's thinking they're gone(i always thought what was Chara's reaction to this, since they did never show it)
Fandom is just dumb
Most of the newcomers are just kids(just stupid and naive) or edgy teens(cancerous edgy and toxic)
Both of which are getting mislead by Fandom narratives into thinking Sans is good and god, Chara is evil, Frisk is pacifist
As well as the game itself doesn't help much, if you just play or watch it without any research or diving deeper into it
When you just play Undertale, it seems to support the Fanon narratives
So, the 2 main reasons are:
1. Community
2. The lore is hidden
@@narrativeless404 ok fair enough though.
@@narrativeless404chara doesn’t attack sans. Even in pacifist you move without having to press anything. Chara didn’t have your soul either so it was more likely frisk who landed the final attack on sans.
Because of you I now thinking 'Murder' Sans as a infamous "saver" with weird style of technique that want to redeem himself. Like that part of 'murder' sans story where he save FRISK and created omega timeline (if I remembered correctly) and in an animation of undertale anime that dedicated to sans called underverse there was a door that can traveled who use it to the au' that door presented in that omega timeline. So now I think 'murder' Sans can travels between au' using just a door that he can summon anytime he want.
Thank you for that, it making my day.
Nah thats all not true. Murder sans did not even create the omega timeline, its a white void that was founded by core frisk and named the omega timeline.
And, in fact, all of these stories doesn't make any sense
Like, how can Sans fight back against Frisk/Chara and do something with the Chara, who's basically just a DT remnant,
symbiote with Frisk soul, at this point
When he couldn't fight back against Flowey and decided to screw everything and become lazy, just to not get depressed over his life situation
@@purpledshadow oh, then I misheard is in this video: th-cam.com/video/HpeQmNwPS0Y/w-d-xo.html
@@narrativeless404 what? Do you mean at the end of the game? Because he did kill Flowey multiple times flowey never got passed sans he says so after a couple playthoughs while mentioning the flowey fan club papyrus made. but if you mean the final fight on pacifist an easy reason is he believes your the time travel so it would be in his best interest not to interfere since you can go back in time and he knows it’s not the timeline where the timeline gets erased it’s not far fetched because he states that’s why he’s fighting you “seeing what comes next I can’t afford not to care anymore” after talking about everything coming to an end he only fights you because of that I know it was a poor explanation but the evidence should serve as enough it’s 3 am
@@cxrmack6922 Yes he did, but that was mainly when he was distracted mesaing with Papyrus, so he got sneak attacked by Sans
He never said he didn't get past Sans
Toby Fox put a lot of effort into all his work, I have no problem with Fandom, But I think they should value and appreciate all the work and content in the game, or else the game could be called Sans.
i was lying i hate fandom
the fandom has it's good things like non-sans fangames/other fanworks, but aus that are just "SANS THIS SANS THAT" are in fact, bad
@5:19 i really like horrortale, i just don't like how the fandom treats horror sans like he's a brother killer like dust or killer[im unsure about killer though]
horror never killed his brother he's just hungry and would absolutely despise dust for what he did the second he found out about dust is a "dirty brother killer" he'd switch sides so fast it would make mettatons head spin.
this is why i think mtt "murder time trio" could never work the way its presented in the fangames as horror has no want to be with a bunch of monster murderers.
[maybe the way yamata's "villian sans squad" did it, could work though. As that way he's basally forced to comply and none of them actually want to work together but they are being forced to by nightmare.]
did he kill humans yeah but that was so paps could eat, he's actively starving himself when aliza meets him meaning he's still just a normal sans, an angry human muderer but still just a sans.
horror would never side with nightmare not even for food, even if he's way more aggressive and a human killer, he's not like them who like to hurt other monsters, sans still cares about monsters just not humans.
i don't mind inverted fate.
i just don't like creator dorked since are a and I'm quoting my friend here who got in an argument with them over undertale
"sore loser who can't admit when they are in the wrong."
inverted fate used to be one of my favorites now because of the dorked i don't even bother reading it. last time i read it we had just met a certain boss.
@13:41 you know the only thing i really liked about some of the fandoms takes on asgore is their are a couple of comics where monsters do suffer the consequences for killing the fallen kids, there were so many other options on the table outside of murder, like just waiting it out since what we know most monsters will outlive a human by atleast 100years and asgore will outlive them all.
so instead of murdering a bunch of kids just wait it out treat them like one of your own, that's the best revenge imo.
in death they learn nothing but in life they can pass their knowledge down for others to learn.
and i get it asgore was blinded by rage, but toriel is stated to be stronger then him if she stayed and not fled she could have made asgore see the light of mercy.
there is a reason i only do genocide now: why should we players be the only ones to suffer consequences why do monsters get a happy ending it goes against everything the games genocide ending teachs us.
nobody is above consequences for their actions.
not humans, not players, AND NOT MONSTERS.
every ending has a meaning but genocide is the only one that gets overlooked.
that show was goated.
i loved how they made sans "the butt of the joke" which is in character for him, sans being a comedian [like he actually has a comedy show] would love this type of stuff and probably get some new material out of it.
@18:20 yep once again another message that flys over the greater fandoms head.
just like the endings.
they are litteraly dead bodies how people find them sexy and claim they aren't necrophiles is beyond me like damn.
like i like the dreemurrs, but you don't see me saying "im not a furry" when people call me that.
like if you like sans or paps in a "sexy way" your into dead body's just admit it we all know it.
12:37 around here Teach Tale sounds like he's having a stroke
Tbh I think the Undertale fandom just has a bad habit of exaggerating things and took out random parts of the stroy (heavily) like yeah sans is smart (to an extent) but his knowledge is nowhere near alphys or gaster for that manner. And again sans is strong but the community just makes him spam a million gaster blasters for no reason other than “he’s the strongest monster” which is completely false. Also sorry for the paragraph lol and if i said anything wrong u can just tell me.
Sans is weak as fuck
Tbh. We don't exactly know thus far how powerful Gaster really is. Though I would say Asgore and likely Undyne are actually much stronger than Sans. I think that technically he is a fairly weak monster, but it so just happens that his abilities really play to the player's disadvantage in the genocide route (karmic retribution, the fact the player technically has only one type of attack). But in any other circumstance, he would likely be a much easier enemy. Especially if he got taken by surprise and had no time to dodge/teleport (which is exactly what happens at the end of the fight).
iirc sans only fights you cause he thinks it's the literal end of the world or smth idk
So true
nah Underpants/SANNNESSSS is the strongest sans
also dusttale sans and most other sans that you like started simply because of sans knowing about resets (dust saying he would remember that he didnt kill undyne and do it faster next time but his memories got erased and disbelief because sans remembers resets and literally almost every sans that have good stories are started because sans remembers the genocides
I wanna see a underverse au encounters their canon counterparts
Imagine canon sans meets Cross sans.
Why does his voice sound cut off
Maybe it's an AI generated voice
The Video is very good and detailed but theres one little thing that irritates me a bit. Why is every sentence as well as just singular words cut together? Not once is there even a small speech break and i think you cut these out? It doesnt really sound that good not gonna lie. You really hear the cuts and since every word/sentence is spoken with another breath if someone speaks so every word/sentence, that was cut in, sounds different and kind of gives the vibe of 'you took another audio and just cut the words in a different order'. It also makes the speech a bit too fast to follow at least for me.
To be honest i had Audio Problems and couldent hear how i edit the Audio, i only hear the Audio when i was finished with my Recording, and in the end i was to Lazy to do the recording again (i thought this Video would not be doing so well)
But thanks for the Honest Feedback
I find it really odd that after some time, every word sounds like they are being supercut to form sentences
example: 9:07
Ut fandom:*sees egdy sans* lest sexulize him
Ut fandom:*sees villian sans*lest make him hero then sexulize him
Ut fandom:*sees funny, hero sans*lest sexulize him with villans
Ut fandom:*sees horny(lust) sans*lest hate him for no reason
Honestly as annoying as fandom sans is he’s no where near as bad as fandom Chara. I mean even if we ignore all the countless evidence as Chara was most likely a flawed but still a good kid fandom Chara is so inconsistent. I mean on one hand they’re supposed to be this manipulative super strong genius who can take down the entire underground unless everyone works to get it to put a fight but the other half of the time they’re this obnoxious brat who throws tantrum in front of others, and gets easily defeated by frisk and sans to the point where they’re pretty much a joke.
And the worst part is they’re barely even considered a villain when they make them one 😭 like why are they always yapping 24/7 and then chara randomly comes for no reason has a fight, loses, then makes up another plan to do the exact same thing. And the fact that sans is stronger than chara in every story they make which basically gets rid of any point of fighting them all.
@@frostscythe910 thank you! Like I’m sorry but how the hell am I supposed to fear this supposed demon manipulating everyone into thinking they’re a good guy while secretly trying to plot all the murders when they get killed so easily by sans who barely even blinks! I mean, what’s the point why is anyone afraid of this person? If I were sans in this situation I’d be like “oh boy here we go again” and on top of that Chara is rarely ever actually portrayed as a manipulator! Or at least a good one! You’re telling me that Chara tricked the Dreamers into thinking they were this innocent child who could do no wrong, oh but also they’re this openly violent person who acts like a spoiled brat who anyone can see is a terrible person from the moon!
The problem of the community is a half of the community is toxic but a other side is very cool and interesting and it's not ONLY hood
My biggest problems are the fact that they try so hard for you to hate everyone but sans in their stories and then fail so bad and the fact that they suck at making their own characters consistent. Imagine making your whole character edgy or evil and still sucking at that 😭
Oh buddy, wait til you read the fanfictions. 🤣
Im glad you showed some comic parts of horror tale im 15 so i couldnt pay 5 dollars to see sourapples comics :(
You know the Horrortale comic is free on deviantart
The cuts make it sound like ai or someone who just took voice clips and put them in this order
I Agree
Funny how I ride my undertale version is hybrid of both Cannon and Fandom heer is an excample
Sans das now about thé timelines but Chara is not evil
what a great mic
Huh... I knew Alphys went mad due to failure, but I thought Sans also lobotomized her.
16:00 not to be mean, but I didn’t understand a thing you said during all of that part lmao
I hate fanon sans because I hate him :)
Ok I hate fanon sans because how unrealistic I mean yeah many au is unrealistic but not unrealistic as fanon sans
I hate undertale fandom
me too
Isn't it obvious, we all hate the Undertale fandom.
Horror tales prequel chapter is actually extremely well written character wise in hindsight and I wish we got more of it as they’re characterization of sans and alphys is quite the highlight but I’d disagree that horrortale only villainized undyne and alphys the only reason it seems that way is due to the fact that we haven’t left snowdin in the comics yet and snowdin sympathies with sans also alphys was lobotomized by sans so she can’t really fight the allegations there’s a panel where Aliza is debating on who is right or wrong and sans blames himself for the hell that they are is and is just hella bitter about his existence at one point just asking the dogs why they put up with him asking them why they don’t hate him for causing this hell so not even sans thinks he’s blameless he just hates undyne and alphys but their maybe some projection in that aswell as more so hating the situation they put him in causing him to act that way I don’t think horrortale just victimizes sans I believe that’s fandom influence affecting your perception of the comic
Fanon sans: solos the verse and is super edgy
“Canon” sans: the weakest character in the game and doesn’t care if his own brother dies
Canon sans: statistically weak but cheats and hates you if you kill his brother, but doesn’t do anything because of his promise
Not exactly because of the promise. It’s more so because of the fact it can be reset and he knows that nothing really matters. Sans is depressed but not edgy depressed. He definetly still cares is papyrus dies though.
If we follow the narachara theory they make many puns in the menu
1:46 DAMN-
I may like the game but I didn't play undertale but see videos of it but I also the fandom and I'm now tired of the fandom shipping skeletons that are just brothers
Hahaha ha,yeah!!!
you're got a point,a also realise how this Au's are kinda of rolling aroud the same ideas,some of theme have some god ideas,but yeah all of just ignore the other caracteres and just focuse on sans.....well🙂🙂🙂
I do that to😂😂
while a respected you're point of view, I can't imagine an Au whitout focusing on sans😂😂🤣🤣
Glitchtale: Am i looking like a fucking joke to you?
@@narrativeless404 ha...?
I didn't talke about glitchtale?!!
what are talking about?😐
@@cara8033 "I can't umagine an AU without focusing on Sans"
@@narrativeless404 oh!!
I see...!!
but...comparing to others, glitchetale is one of a few who dosing focues on sans really hard .But he stiles a big part of the story
@@cara8033 He dies 2 times
The only one time he took valuble part of the story is S1 Ep1 "Megalomaniac"(basically the old animation she didn't care much about back then)
She actually was a Sans fangirl and had that distorted Fanon take on Chara, which she's got rid of by the time the series started
Camila could definitely go the way Jakei did, but she didn't go wild with Sans AU and shit, which is indeed respectful
Problem is, horror sans literally is a villain so its kind of hard to see what you mean, lots of the people who read the comics think that sans took it to far ect ect, so I don't really understand your complaints, also horror sans lost a ton of his memorys so that could change his personality a bit... along with multiple of his friends dusting infront of him, hours of work and stress, being depressed and suicidal (maybe), having the one person who was working on fixing the underground scoop his eye out, and not eating for 7 years. Yea.... fun. Lots of people see him as a villain but in order to have a good villain you need good motivations and reasons, horror has those.
Alright rewatched and I understand what you're saying a little more, but honestly I see more people admitting he screwed up more than people giving him a pass, also he doesn't make Alizas life hell because he feels bad about his past, he does it out of boredom, food for his brother, and instinct, but you did get the feeling very guilty about his past as that was shown is the latest panels for the 1st ending
Uhh
Don't you think that the very idea of the magic food source being the CORE is awkwardly stupid?
They make the magic food themselves, only use they have for CORE is getting electricity from DETERMINATION(and they don't need much to have it working for long term)
@@killersavitar149 Does Horror kill Aliza?
Because it doesn't make sense if he does
So is horror sans evil or good?
And if he's evil does he redeem himself.
@@theepic1944 He's evil
And doesn't even try to
Chara is a saint compared to him
What is bro talking about
Wdym alphys created flowey?
All she did was inject determinetion into a flower
Thats not a huge feat right?
I dont understand what is bro saying about the amalgamates
They are like failed experiments right? A bunch of monsters melted and fused to each other
Alphys built mettaton to impress asgore so he made her the royal scientist
Even Catty and bratty even say she didnt have huge feats
And bro is saying alphys is smarter than sans because he coudn't fix a "time machine"
We dont even know what that is or if its fixed or not
She was the one who experimented on them so you obviously get the feat. Not to mention we don’t know how she injected the flower with determination. There’s no way she just stuffed a needle inside and put it in like that.
You should do a video on ink sans and then dustink
W.D. gaster has no evidence being connected to sans
Bruh the mic
CAN PPL STOP SAYING CHARA IS EVIL??????
You gave me A ideal
Sans isn't even that strong 1ATK 1DF he just dodges and hits you with karma damage he's just a glass poison main like if anything I'd love to see an Undyne and Frisk team up in an au instead of the laziest guy in the game who doesn't even do anything until everyone is dead
nice microphone
15:55 WHY IS GOING ON?! I can't understand anything you're saying. I had to stop watching here.
XD
What the heck is wrong with the audio???
Undyne Can solo sans.
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