Regardless of your views on Chara it'd have to be a real pain. Even if it's like mine the kid's probably a fucking handful even under the best circumstances, bet they break down crying about their dead brother and all the mistakes they made every few cycles and he's just gotta be like "UH, THERE THERE, KIDDO." cuz it's like he's an eccentric scientist he doesn't know how to help emo kids with their depression.
One possible theory is Gaster could have been the scientist that did experiments on Chara for determination. Considering he was the royal scientist for the Dreamurr's while Chara was still alive, and they both are no longer confined to their respective worlds. Another interesting theory is Noelle's sister in Deltarune has gone missing, and the giant Gasterblaster in the lab looks very similar to a deer's head. Currently Gaster seems like he can offer power (Jevil, Spamton) but it comes at a price. Gaster might also be the friendly dude who gives Kris an egg.
@@chaoticneutralsheep I heard a theory about the egg person. Apparently, if you type the word "EGG" (I forgot whether it has to all be capital), into Wing Dings, it makes three hand letters. And these hands make the movement a knight in chess makes. So the egg person could also be the Knight. However, I'm not completely sure that it is true, but the video about it is on TH-cam, and it's about this larger "Chess Theory"
I'm twelve and I couldn't believe he didn't know who gaster was, he probably just missed the peak or didn't get a tablet at like five (A bit young to have a device tbh)
"ENTRY NUMBER 17 DARK DARKER YET DARKER THE DARKNESS KEEPS GROWING THE SHADOWS CUTTING DEEPER PHOTON READING NEGATIVE WAIT EVERYONE JUST CALLED IN SICK GOD DAMNIT I WAS JUST GOING TO SHOW OFF MY NEW CREATION SO I'LL JUST TURN ON THE LIGHTS NOW"
He’s watching with a cup of tea like “poor humans, with their vulnerable biological systems and antibodies…” -he takes a long solemn sip- “…well, I don’t have lungs, so…”
I genuinely never thought of how new fans would see Gaster until now He was such a big deal back in the day with comics and theories sprouting practically every week so it's insane that some people don't know him
To be fair I don’t think Toby Fox himself ever mentioned if he did created W.D. Gaster or what is it’s role, unless I’ve missed some posts on he’s Twitter.
Something I noticed is that during the height of undertale’s popularity Gaster was portrayed by fans as a tall calm/collected person but when the first two chapters of deltarune were released fans started portraying him as a silent large uneven monstrous shadow accompanied by quiet whispers and broken speech. This is probably because Gaster has an actual presence in deltarune looming over everything which is most likely what caused this change into something more monstrous.
In undertale he felt like a reference to cut content, something left lost and unable to do anything about it. Deltarune starts with letting us know "no he very much CAN do something, and good luck discerning his motives"
From what I remember of Undertale Gaster it seemed like he was being depicted as the fans imagined he might have been prior to falling into the core, or otherwise showing residual traits of that persona. So the calm and collected demeanour comes from assumptions of what "the previous Royal Scientist" would be like, and tall probably comes mostly from the mystery man sprite being relatively tall. Since there was so little information in the first place it fits that the perception changed so much the moment there was more to work off with the hints in Deltarune.
I think it’s that Undertale fans very much know that they’re dabbling in fanon when they create their gaster interpretations and revel in that fact. If you asked someone who drew a tall sexy man gaster if that’s how they thought he’d really look chances are they’d say “uhh, no? He’s a weird little blob man or something” Keep in mind that there was plenty of spooky mysterious looming entity art of gaster even in the Undertale days. I think it’s more that because gaster is now an active player in the story and we’re getting so many more hints about him right out in the open, there’s greater motivation for people to create artwork more true to how he may actually be within canon (It also helps that Deltarune has a much much smaller AU scene than Undertale had and continues to have to this day)
Well, Wingdings is a dingbat font, so it would make sense if he was a little off-the-wall in his personal life. After the V-day card, I imagine W. D. being like that one comic: "Sans?! Where are my whats-its and doohickeys!? Here, take your groceries, put your brother in the fridge." But when it comes to research Entries? All business.
@@Ally_Leaf I kinda like this interpretation. People are hesitant to say the vday card was gaster because the cadence is so silly - it seems more in line with the Egg man, who himself seems to be either gaster or connected to gaster, but even that’s controversial. But to me it seemed to perfectly in line with gaster’s vibe. He’s this broken entity that has limited vectors for interaction. This time he manifests as a valentines letter because that’s how everyone else is communicating, but he can’t mimic it perfectly. The letter is pre written and yet it responds to the reader in real time, and when you’re finished reading it disappears and you hear footsteps. The cadence and style is silly, but maybe gaster is silly. I’ve also considered that maybe scary straight man gaster and egg man goofball gaster are different gasters - one from undertale and the other from Deltarune.
I like to believe that his “creation” was actually Deltarune itself. A world where monsters and humans could live together in peace. He fell into his creation, and pieces off himself were shatters across time and space. A bit in Undertale. A bit in deltarune. Maybe bits somewhere else.
alright here is my new crackpot theory that makes literally 0 sense gaster invented sans sans was just a normal monster that originated in the delta universe at some point in time sans ended up somehow leaving deltarune and being trapped in the undertale universe, where everything sucks and hes forced to live underground it would explain why he seems relatively unchanged in deltarune and some other things probably this is almost definitely wrong i made this theory up in like five seconds lol
Considering that, last I checked, the description for Deltarune lists it as being in the Undertale *series,* this does make sense. Toby Fox said he was planning Deltarune for quite some time, so perhaps he was planning for Gaster then too?
@@bumblebot2458 I think Deltarune has been in development since far before Undertale. Considering how much more prominent his role is in the former, I wouldn't be surprised if Gaster was originally created for Deltarune's story, and his appearances in UT are simply foreshadowing.
@@blokos_ i wouldnt be surprised it definitely seems to me though that gaster was originally a deltarune character who was referenced in undertale in the form of easter eggs i have a feeling his role in deltarune will be much greater than it ever was in undertale, though that doesnt necessarily mean he'll be incredibly important to the story
Here's my own take on why Gasters theme appears everywhere: Gaster was shattered across time and space. His musical representation then ALSO is shattered across time and space. Giving you a feeling of him always being around, watching.
and because of the theme being so simple it's very easy to hear it in places outside of toby's influence ever just shatter yourself into the hat in time song "Peace and Tranquility"
That's the reason it's so simple too. It appears everywhere, not intentionally, but because Gaster's shatterd pieces have worked their way into the actual universe itself.
My brother’s favorite Undertale memory is when he played the game for his first time and came across the gray door in Waterfall out of sheer coincidence, but he decided to skip the door and come back to it in a second not realizing that the door and hallway would disappear after leaving. He then told me about it (around this time I was deep into canon lore and fan theories and knew all about Gaster), and I just stared at him for a second and told him that he found a rare chance happening and just left it. He laughed so hard. Honestly pretty hilarious now that I’m typing this out lol
yeah its so rare, after 5 years of bieng in the undertale/deltarune comunity and laying undertale over and over again, i never found it once, still to this day i never found it, i did find 2 gaster followers tho
Talk about the chances, that kinda reminds me when I was replaying Undertale some days before Chapter 2 would be announced for Switch and I got the Wrong Number event
I remember when I was playing Undertale on my tablet, I unexpectedly met one of Gaster's followers. I think I laughed as much as your brother did, because then I didn't know that at the beginning of each playthrough the fun number is generated differently
13:46 There’s no VERY, VERY INTERESTING, but if you name yourself “KRIS”, “SUSIE” or “NOELLE” you’ll get the voice telling you you’re about to meet someone VERY, VERY WONDERFUL, so
i think i got a VERY VERY INTERESTING if you do the vessel name as one from the game and they just seem fed up if you put the vessel name and your own name as the same one
Can you imagine if Undertale came out before datamining and the internet was such a big thing? One day, you're playing through it like usual when you see a weird, grey NPC who mentions a guy called Gaster who never comes up in the main story. You never see this NPC again on any subsequent playthroughs. You post on a forum to ask if anyone has seen anything like this and the only responses you get are "idk man sounds like a glitch or something." or people assuming you made it up, and you're left to wonder if it did actually happen
Exactly. It's just as toby said in his audio "IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO HAVE SECRETS NOWADAYS. BeE-cAuSe OoF NoI-sY pEoPlE lIkE yOu!". Glad it got release nowadays tho
TBH kinda like Missingo in Pokemon Red and Blue. You'll get vague playground rumors and boom. I do believe UT would have been in a similar boat without the internet, but I also don't think it would have hit so hard either, because 4th wall breaks are important and in the genocide route when Flowey is talking to you he mentions how the player and him are better than those who are just watching. IE kinda hitting the outside world who is too scared or not wanting to ruin their save with the genocide route.
@@hope.world.mp3845 one day, a kid named johnny buys a pirated copy of undertale, but it was haunted, and there's this dead doctor's soul who haunt the undertale cartridge
@@kakyoindonut3213 and sans had empty eye sockets and blood flowing out of them when you fought him in genocide instead of his one blue one Then the game opens your real life computer camera it shows you’re missing your eyes too and there’s also blood flowing out of them but that’s not real because you can still see and then blood starts coming out of your ceiling, landing on your face and then the air around you goes cold and then you hear what sounds to be the wingading text sound W.D Gaster has playing in the dark corner of your room.. in your closed closet in which you hear something shift from within and then the door slowly but surely slink open… and then.. and then.. sans
Let's be honest here, if Toby were ever to confirm that the mysteryman sprite isn't gaster, the Fandom would go absolutely ballistic. 1000's of fan fiction writers' dreams would be crushed violently.
It's not a possibility, it's a fact. One of the followers said gaster was shattered across time and space, and that he's holding a piece of him. This means gaster is in pieces, and can't LOOK a certain way.
fun fact: I was like 12 when I played Undertale for the first time, and I was absolutely SO UPSET by having to leave Toriel. I was calling her, over and over again, in every room, only to get no response... and then I got the wrong number call and I swear to god it made me cry
god the same thing happened to me when i first played undertale! i was literally floored that i had to leave her and i was so sad, and EVEN WORSE was that i almost killed her, until one of my more knowledgeable-on-undertale friends let me know that it was bad. i was a video game junkie, normally a "FIGHT" option doesn't do any sort of ethical brain-fuck.
the end of the "garbage noise" even sounds a bit like a scream, and to me that makes sense because, based on what happened to gaster and his current form, he must exist in some form of pain
the "garbage noise" is confirmed to be (at least a derivative of) Muffet's laugh, just slowed down, pitch bent, reversed, looped, and distorted in some crazy ways. If you speed up mus_smile (the Entry 17 "music" track) over 1000% and pitch bend it back, you get something resembling Muffet's laugh back out. So, who knows... it could just be his laugh stretched across space and time (quite literally)? It could just be a coincidence that he sounds like Muffet, though.
@@TeslabladePlaysMCits likely the otherway around, muffets laugh is derived off of gaster, my headcanon as to why thats muffets laugh is that it probably has to do with meta stuff since muffet was a kickstarter character unlike most characters
@@RADZULAYXE Good point! In all of my thinking of how the mus_smile sound was made, it feels pretty likely that mus_smile was made with Muffet's laugh as a base first, then Muffet was made last. I can't really think of a pre-existing filter to manipulate audio to make quite the effect that we hear in mus_smile, but my idea of how the sound was made is by taking a small window of samples from a source audio, playing them in a loop, and shifting the sample window every once in a while. I can't think of a way to do that backwards and get a certain audio output out, so either mus_smile was made really late into development, after Muffet was proposed (which i personally doubt), or the Muffet laugh has been in the game for a much longer time. Either that or Toby Fox is a genius and there used to be a different mus_smile that got somehow modulated with Muffet's laugh? Just a guess.
I will say though that apart from the undertale main theme, the other examples given are pretty likely not linked to gaster because even if the musical structure is similar, the underlying chords are fundamentally different in such a way that it's more likely a coincidence.
@@-FutureTaken- My point isn't that gaster isn't everywhere, but rather the assertion that his theme is everywhere is questionable because it's pretty likely that the other instances of the theme might just be coincidences from other common musical structures.
@@ericy1817 thank you for saying this any song can be seen as gasters theme its such a simple melody literally any melody that goes up and then down can be gasters theme
THEORY: Gaster’s theme is intentionally simple, we’re hearing it everywhere because his pieces were scattered everywhere when he shattered through time and space
I think that is a very distinct posibility. Destiny 2 did something similar recently, where a portion of music that has been part of the main theme of the game (which made its way into most secondary themes) for years was shown to be evil-song-magic-thing-earworm of the big bad.
@@oppositeday429 I mean, this is a valid theory that goes around, especially in a lot of fanworks, fan comics, and AUs. It reminds me of a comic I used to read on tumbler that had Chara's "back story", and both sans AND papyrus were the royal "scientist"
@@oppositeday429 the Handplates comic says that Sans and Papyrus are parts/fragments of Gaster and since he got erased from existence, some parts of the brothers did too, so that explains why they're "glitchy" as in why Papyrus can "fly" and why Sans can teleport and mess with the game
When you name yourself "Susie" in Deltarune, the narrator says "you are about to meet someone very, very wonderful". He also calls some names "an interesting coincidence". So the connections are there.
I dont see why everyone thinks gaster being the vessel creation narrator is a theory that needs evidence, entry 17 uses a typer value of 666 and so does the vessel narrator, practically confirming it
@@leedlelel2373 exactly. Some dude said to me that because Toby wants to make DELTARUNE it’s own thing, it doesn’t have any connections. This was AFTER Chapter 2, in fact, a few days ago. It’s incredible how even with the intro to the game, Jevil, Seam and Spamton NEO, there are people who STILL think that there are no connections!
@@CaptainCoolzCT- Spamton NEO literally using motifs and instruments from Undertale songs as part of his theme and then people still say there's no connection.
I absolutely love how there's ONE piece of text we get from Gaster. We hear (or uh.. see?) him speak ONCE But we almost immideately knew it was him in these tweets and at the beginning of the game just by the speaking mannerisms and the wording he uses. IT WASN'T EVEN THE SAME FONT!!!!!! And here ladies and gentelmen is what good fucking writing is.
I actually also think Gaster is more likely to be a Deltarune character since many things we know about him could be forshadowings to deltarune. Also Toby wanted to make Deltarune bwfore he came up with Undertale.
Undertale seems to be a story inside Deltarune like, a fairy tale? this may explain why both games have practically the same characters. Someone may have written a story (maybe that was even Gerson) about the town, OR USED the residents as characters for it. Just think about it, it's not far fetched
"It wouldn't be very BIG SHOT of Gaster to make the epilepsy warning indecipherable" is such a great string of words to me for some reason, especially if someone had never heard of Undertale before
I LOVE the "you had to be there" factor for Deltarune ch1's initial release. The tweets. The survey program file. Not knowing what it was then being MINDBLOWN when it turned out to be an entire new game. It was fantastic. (Honestly given that Toby was working on deltarune so far ahead of undertale, im like 99% sure the reason that gaster was so vague in undertale was that he was a teaser for deltarune)
"im like 99% sure the reason that gaster was so vague in undertale was that he was a teaser for deltarune" Same here! I try not to get my hopes up but I can't help thinking: if I was in Toby's shoes, I would want to not only create a fascinating "dummied out" mystery in my game's files, but actually pay off on it in a big way later on.
@@diamondmatter2919 i literally remember where i WAS when it dropped. it was in homeroom art class and i saw tweets like “IS THIS UNDERTALE 2? WHAT THE HELL IS THIS” AND IT WAS SOME SKETCHY ASS PROGRAM I DOWNLOADED OVER SCHOOL WIFI AND LIKE THREE PEOPLE CROWEDED AROUND ME ON MY SHITTY LITTLE SURFACE TABLET WATCHING ME PLAY IT WAS SUCH A GOOD EXPERIENCE
@@pyramidserum I remember where I was too! I was in my room, after a trick or treat night. I think it was REALLY dark out and I wasn’t able to understand what was going on??? people on wattpad we’re going insane but I couldn’t understand so I just went to sleep and the next day (first of November) i woke and went crazy
One more reason people think Gaster is the skelebros' father, is because no one remembers him and skelebros are said to have just shown up one day. If their creator/parent was erased from everyone's memory, it would make sense for people to see them as if they just appeared out of thin air. Of course this is just a theory, but that is the strongest piece of evidence for it IMO.
@@shafootodess This assumption mostly comes from no one aside from Gaster's followers acknowledging him, plus Goner Kid's dialogue. And I think there was also some dialogue about no one knowing where the core came from, but I don't remember where. If you want to categorize it that way, then it is a theory, that stems from another theory. It's not baseless fanfiction tho.
Something I feel like a lot of people aren’t talking about enough is the fact that, in the Deltarune timeline, Gaster should still be alive. No royalty = no royal scientist = no experiments = no “creation” = no falling into “creation” = no space time bullshit blah blah blah you get the idea. Unless the space-time-shattering affected him across all timelines somehow, or something else happened in this timeline to achieve the same result. Maybe Gaster as a character is just “doomed” to a fate such as that, similar to how Deltarune Burgerpants seems to be “doomed” to live a similar life to his Undertale one despite the radically different circumstances?
i’d also like to note that the rabbit shopkeeper in snowdin says that sans and papyrus “just showed up one day and asserted themselves” and that nobody knows where they came from if gaster WAS their father (or at least guardian) it would make sense if he was written out of existence, and by extension, sans and papyrus’ connection to the town, since they probably would’ve been living in his house. also, since it can be assumed that sans worked in the lab at some point, it’s possible he was working WITH gaster, perhaps even when he fell. and, y’know, seeing his own dad/relative/guardian be “scattered across time and space” might make you a bit aware of timelines and the quality of reality. might explain how he’s so aware of the player’s meta actions. Also! Another thing i find interesting; we’re told that gaster “fell into his own creation” after we’re told he built the core. I fully believe this to be a red herring. “Falling” or “being in a fallen state” is analogous to death or being close to dying in undertale. If we go with the assumption that Gaster helped, or even started, the determination experiments we see Alphys working on, we could assume that he experimented on himself, melted from the determination exposure, like the amalgamates, and “fell.” this could also explain how he “shattered across time and space,” as those with high levels of determination are able to mess with reality and timelines and stuff. anywhizzle, this is such a great video!! i keep coming back to it to sate my gaster hyperfixation, my adhd thanks you
“CHILD GET OFF ME THIS INSTANT” “but doooooccccc I’m boooorrreeeeeeddd” “I SWEAR TO GOD IF YOU DONT GET OFF WE ARE GOING TO FIND OUT IF ITS POSSIBLE FOR YOU TO DIE T W I C E”
My headcanon when Deltarune first came out was that Deltarune was essentially a mechanism for Gaster to babysit Chara and/or the Players and keep them contained. In Undertale player choice was everything, leading to whole routes depending on genocide or pacifism. Deltarune didn't have that, perhaps because Gaster saw Chara/Player's choices as dangerous. I haven't been keeping up with Deltarune, though, so I'm not sure if this theory holds up.
"Gaster has to babysit his boss' kid for all eternity" I love the idea that Gaster gets excited about what he and the player makes, and Chara just comes in and destroys it like a toddler drawing on their parent's papers
One weird thing I want to point out. "Man" is usually used to refer to the egg person, while "Him" is usually referred to Gaster, and the sprite is spr_mysteryman. It is still, very possible that this is referring to Gaster as the 6s and the mus_smile file suggests. But, I just find it weird and wanted to point it out. Note: Thank you for the comments for pointing it out, but gaster is referred as a man at the river person dialogue. There is no confirmation that he's actually is talking about gaster though, since the dialogue is vague enough just enough to let toby put the most fucking mild-blowing 4d arg play into that line
YES YES! everytime I hear people talkin about gaster being egg-man, I always think "toby would foam at the mouth if he wasn't reffering to gaster with 'HIM'" now if it was ONE time or in a scenario were it would be weird to fit it (ala the river man) I would let it slide but the mann behind the tree has showed up twice now
I actually find it pretty creepy how Gasters theme is in so many seemingly unrelated pieces of music, like he's been entwined with the fabric of reality and is revealing himself through subtle changes in it.
I can imagine Toby sitting at home looking at people's fanart and comics depicting Gaster as mystery man just laughing saying "hah! That's not even him lmao"
Playing Delatarune made me feel like he just took a bunch of fan stuff that was popular and mixed just enough that I get hit with all the info my mind blanked before. I literally went off on a 3 hour tangent about undertale multiverse after playing deltarune
@@TorutheRedFox just because he thought of it doesn't mean he had all the details, I had the idea for a video for years once and the final product was vastly different from the concept
Theres one other Gaster allusion in the hometown that wasnt mentioned. Iirc, when you approach the mysterious doors at the bottom of the Town, it plays a specific sound while near them. If you take that sound in the files and speed it up by 666% in an audio program, it's actually just the Garbage Noise that plays in entry 17 and on Kris' phone. Whatever happened to Kris (and maybe Noelle if we consider her words from Snowgrave) at that door, it could have connections to Gaster. My current assumption is that Gaster has formed some kind of connection with Kris, like he did with Jevil and Spamton, which is why there have been multiple comments on how Kris has changed recently and why they hear the same noise on their phone that Spamton did.
Obligatory Kris uses they/them. The intro sequence also supports this, though. The dude speaking to us at the beginning not only has the exact same speaking style as Gaster, but his typer value in the code is 666, just like it was in Undertale. So yeah it's almost certainly Gaster who intended for us to be put in an empty vessel, but was interrupted somehow.
i love how not only does "gaster" as an enemy cause you to lose money, basically mugging you when defeated, he also causes you to lose xp, meaning he somehow drains your experience when defeated.
Thing is if i recall , Napstablook takes away 1 Experience Point... as in it will be pretty much the only time "Experience Point" is actually said. All other times its the abbreviation (which is later shown to be EXECUTION Points) which implies theyre 2 separate things
WAIT A SEC IF BEATING UP GASTER IS GOOD DOES THAT MEAN HE'S THE ONLY TRULY EVIL CHARACTER WE'LL ENCOUNTER?? Gaster being a genuinely irredeemable character would be a great plot twist. He's associated with the Devil, so...
@@GodofDumps imagine if we can find during our walkthrough in the game piece by piece a link for downloading an archive of missing game files, and then we can install them in order to prevent crash in certain moments or a route we wish to avoid? That would be cool ARG trick.
@@GeorgeMarionerd not really if it is most likely our computer would get shut or something REALLY creepy like the amalgamation but gaster? He's more of a secret at the least
I thought I knew everything about Gaster. This video made me realise how similar he is to the humans who fell into the Underworld: falling into ever-expanding darkness you have no way out of. Blew my mind!
I love the line "Don't forget, I'm with you in the dark." In the UT/DR Pacifist route, that's comfort from the player's friends that they are being told. It could be Sans, Susie, Asgore, Ralsei, etc. In the Genocide/Weird route, though, it's a threat. From the player to Frisk/Kris.
@@lisandramariaurbano8413 I saw some dubs of comics with similar idea, but can't find it again. Remember that they had an gasterblaster's prototype 0.2 or floof
Not retroactive at all, I think... Toby's said in the past he's been working on deltarune since before undertale was ever a thing, so he probably always intended for it to tie into deltarune!
I do wanna say that I still think that Undertale (conceptually) came into existence before Deltarune, or at the very least they started being conceptualized around the same time Just based on Toby’s “Found an old college notebook” twitter post where Undertale was in a very early conceptual stage and he was just making the outlines for the first battle system and even mentions the early concept for the Toriel fight before the characters of the game were even fully realized I just find it weird that that would happen after Deltarune had already supposedly been conceptualized enough to make Gaster into a character
I think that Gaster is Grandpa Semi, because “semi” also calls to mind “semicolon,” and you could look at the mystery man sprite’s eyes as being a slightly embellished semicolon. It also ties into the font lore of skeletons and Gaster, as they focus on the format of the written word when they speak.
@@increbidel4685 Well, it could be meant to tie Mettaton to Grandpa Semi, and a connection between MTT and Gaster would make sense, since Gaster was the royal scientist and created the CORE from which Alphys' creations (such as Mettaton) draw their power.
18:06 "I will say that gaster seems to have a real talent for suddenly disappearing from existence" I know this isn't meant to be taken at face value, but I can't stop giggling over the idea that Gaster was actually just helping Spamton but then suddenly disappeared from existence mid conversation.
Let's not forget Gaster's (possible) association with eggs, with the mysterious "man behind the tree" Now let's combine that with the royal scientist's great fall, and being shattered across time and space, never to become whole again. And now we arrive at the conclusion that Gaster is in fact... Humpty Dumpty That's right I think Gaster is Humpty Dumpty and you can't convince me otherwise.
I will forever subscribe to the Handplates interpretation, purely because it is so incredibly well written and at no point goes hard enough against canon that it could be ruled out. Zarla has my support in their cannon.
@@parallax256 Ooh! Handplates is a fan comic by Zarla on DeviantArt. It just wrapped up last year. It's an interesting interpretation of the lore and I've been a huge fan for ages.
As a very avid writer who enjoys foreshadowing in the most obscure of ways, I am 100% convinced Gaster was always planned to be a big part of Deltarune, and any blatantly obvious Gaster insert into Undertale (like the fun value 66 door) was just Toby deciding to play the super long con and foreshadow 10 odd years in advance.
I'm pretty sure (although my memory could be playing tricks on me) that I heard somewhere that deltarune was a game idea that he got from a dream, before developing the game undertale and that deltarune was always going to be the [BIGGER] game. I mean, right now there seems to be 7 chapters planned, and the first and second combined are about the same length as an average undertale playthrough...so deltarune will certainly become significantly longer once its finally completed.
@@youngjellyfish8694 Yes deltarune was/the story was made before Undertale. It was updated though because Undertale and it was obvious Toby would change things to include things from it.
According to Toby fox, he’s been planning deltarune long before undertale and even claimed he was making deltarune for the purpose of fulfilling a video game ending he saw in a dream. Though sometimes I feel like he just added gaster to mess around with players. Like the missing piece of the puzzle that can never be found and frustrate the player to no end!
Deltarune is a game that's a mix of an original game concept and a game that evolved from it (UT). That game never had a single room made for it, but it was a game that had an ending Toby saw on a 2011 fever dream, using characters from a deck of cards made by a tumblr user. A lot of the script was written by august 2012. :D
I feel something that’s been kinda lost in the fandom hyperfixation, is the fact that Gaster is legit scary For one, Mystery Man’s sprite is very spooky, and Gasters theme is also very ominous And like, imagine finding all of this stuff for the first time Toby did really well making Gaster and his entire story, and I just want to respect that
Which is exactly why I love when fan projects portray him in a more sinister way. For example, cybo's Deltarune fan tracks on a hypothetical Gaster boss fight.
Snowdin Town's theme in Undertale also has the "Don't Forget" leitmotif in it. Which is fitting since that's where Sans' lab with the Don't Forget photo is located. Bonetrousle was originally meant to be Deltarune's battle theme before it was repurposed for Undertale, so it makes sense that Toby would've written a lot of these themes and melodies before Undertale came out. Also the Bunker in town plays the entry 17 noise when sped up by 666% Edit: Also also, Queen says that Noelle needs to "close her eyes and sleep away into a darker darker dream" in the snowgrave route, and Gaster's theme is 100% present in the song playing during the hospital scene where Noelle is talking to herself. Edit2: In the ch 3-5 teaser songs, Toby put the Snowdin Townin motif in Deltarune's new hometown theme
What Dont forget isnt in snowdin And toby said bonetrousle was actually going to be UNDERTALE'S battle theme, not deltarune's, but regardless, yes, deltarune was confirmed to be thought of long before undertale finished development
@LeedleLel I just looked up the interview to be sure, and yes, it was originally supposed to be for Deltarune or whatever Deltarune was before he made Undertale. Also if you listen to Snowdin Town's theme, you can here Don't Forget at 0:33
@@NRobbi42 ok ill admit it sounds like it but it definitely doesnt use the same notes, but i mean, who knows ig lol Anyways could you link or quote the interview?
Don’t forget about that bunker in Deltarune where if you higher the pitch of the noise that plays near it it plays the garbage noise Also jevil and spamton give you shadow crystals that are described as pieces of glass and in Undertale they say he shattered across time and space so glass shatters and they could be literal pieces of gaster
i actually love gasters theme being everywhere directly relates to him being "spread across time and space" he's LITERALLY been spread everywhere to the point of weaseling his way into all the music
@@NormalExploiter What the frick is this kid talking about? You look like you confused the concepts of "space" and "place," and know jack shjt about consciousness.
You forgot the door at the bottom of Kris' HomeTown in Deltarune. It's a misterious door that "won't open". When you get close to the door, you can hear very, very, very, but I mean, VERY slowed down version of the garbage noise. Very, very interesting isn't it?
I think the sound of entry seventeen and stuff is like canonically what his voice sounds like, Because if it’s unintelligible when you read it why should you understand it verbally??? So what if gasters like just yelling into the phone when kris calls in the dark world: “OH THANK GOD PLEASE HELP ME IM STUCK IN THE FU- wh- did they just HANG UP!?”
Frankly, the best way of explaining all the Gaster stuff I've seen. Not trying to lean into the creepy aspects in an over the top way, just presenting the facts and theories in an informative and fun manner. Thanks for the great work!
NO!! NO!!! NE-O!!! HOLY [Congadero] DID YOU LOSE YOUR [Mind]????!!!! JUST BECAUSE THE [SCawy nOiSE] OF ENTRY [17] IS [Signal Disconnected] DOESN'T MEAN ASS[Ter] is exist in Deltafart!! GET THAT THROUGH YOUR [Beautiful Head], YOU LITTLE [Worm]!!
Gaster fascinates me because it seems as though he's everywhere and nowhere. Like a quark, or a gluon, he exists and he's all around us, yet he's almost impossible to see or measure. He passes right through the world, almost never interacting with it in any way that we can see. It makes me wonder whether Toby might have been reading about particle physics when he came up with Gaster and the broader idea of Deltarune.
Quarks and gluons aren’t examples of particles that barely interact though? Like, quarks interact via the strong force so much that you can’t get one by itself. Wouldn’t a better analogy be a neutrino?
It's almost as if he's the Deltarune game code itself, since Deltarune could be the "experiment" that went wrong and since he got shattered across time and space. Especially since there's an implication of connection with the whole "Darkness, Dark World" thing, plus the intro of the game and the cryptic tweets. Or Gaster could also be some sort of third-party character that's from a different world, like the player interacting with the Deltarune. The only difference is that we, the players, are completely separate beings from the games. Gaster's existence comes from the games. It reminds me of a relationship between the "player" and the "narrator/game". In a way, the player and Gaster are similar since they can make the Deltarune characters "aware," or basically give them existential crises. An example would be our relationship with Noelle in the Snowgrave route and (based on other theories) Gaster's hinted involvement with Spamton or Jevil. Idk who knows? So far there's been 2 chapters, so hopefully in chapter 3 things start to line up and make sense.
Also, the Z's that appear when Sans falls asleep in his battle in the genocide run are in the Aster font. It doesn't appear anywhere else in the game but there. That's why I find it so ridiculous that people make grand theories of what will happen but leave Sans out entirely. He's clearly connected.
Wth do you mean literally everyone brings up the overrated skeleton when talking about g man but like, okay lol Also the z's in his fight were analyzed by nochocolate on tumblr and they arent really in the aster font
it's not the aster font it looks vaguely like it, but so can thousands of other fonts. if it was Aster specifically, it would be an identical match. but it's not. it's just a stylised Z that was drawn manually, then reused. it means nothing. the games do the same with SFX; Susie's Rude Buster spell makes the same sound effect as when Jevil throws scythes down at the heroes in his intro cutscene. does that have any meaning? NO IT DOESN'T.
@@randomcatdude It's a serif font though. Sans' whole thing is being sans serif. The fact that the font even bears a passing resemblance to Aster is meaningful
@@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep there are so many other serif fonts that'd also have a "passing resemblance", aster is only being fixated on due to its one-letter difference from Gaster. it just feels so vague, and it's literally a single letter.
considering Gaster was "split apart time and space" it makes a weird amount of sense that his very simple 4 note theme could be vaguely heard in every other theme
I know who Gaster is but I love this video so much. Feels like old school theorising where we're grasping at the very little we have and it's got such a mysterious vibe, I don't need answers I just need clear and concise clues (fnaf I'm looking at you). Anyway thanks for this video even though it's kinda old, it's sort of a comfort video to me learning about our possible skeleton possible threat possibly doesn't even show up guy.
I'm surprised you didn't mention the man behind the tree that gives you eggs (egg in wingdings is left forward forward, the move that knights perform in chess)
@@rompevuevitos222 it's not about Gaster so much as a connection to draw. Wingdings are how Gaster likes to speak, and the egg-giver is out of bounds, like how Gaster is broken out of the bounds of the game. So trying Wingdings on egg gives the hands showing the direction a Knight moves in Chess, and remember, Gaster is often believed to be "The Man Who Speaks In Hands"
@@paradoxtatorstudios9681 he doesn't subvert shit for the sake of subverting it you fuck especially for something that's been being built up for so long
Another thing that connects the mistery man sprite to Gaster: When you interact with him a sound effect is played and he disappears, if you take that sound effect, change the speed by 666% (don't remember if it's sped up or slowed down) and loop it, it sounds like Gaster's theme
@@GoogleAccount-ox6em to be fair, one of the followers that disappear with the sound effect says that he's holding a piece of Gaster in his hand before completely disappearing. And for a while that followers holding the piece of gaster and the mystery man were the only times in the entire game you heard the disappearing sound effect.
i know all the context to this already but the infliction in your voice is the "PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE LISTEN TO MY HYPERFIXATION IM NOT CRAZY RAHHHHHHHHHH"
I've made music for ages and played games all my life, and I can safely say; if Toby intended even that microscopic level of subtlety to Gaster's character and influence on the world, to make the other soundtrack pieces work as perfectly well as they do while simultaneously, intentionally, hinting at Gaster's theme... then he is the undisputed greatest mind video games have to offer, and someone I would single out as the most likely living human to ever successfully do a Kamehameha.
Since we have no concrete evidence of what Gaster looks like and him being shattered across space and time, I believe both the mystery sprites in the hidden rooms are parts of Gaster. The mystery man sprite is his main body, and the wispy white sprite is his flowing luxurious hair after a few years in the void with no shampoo.
7:07 to be fair assuming that this call is Gaster related by the G alone might have been a stretch a few years ago, but now with the retrospective that Gaster is often associated with phone calls I don't think it's too outlandish of an idea.
a favorite theory of mine that I can't remember if I came up with or not: when gaster was scattered throughout time and space, you can see him everywhere, in every town and around every person... Dr. Wing Ding Aster was splintered into countless asterisks. * He's right there. * At the beginning of almost every line of dialog every character speaks. * He's always been there. * He always will be. * Silently watching, reading your words, your thoughts.
No one seems to have mentioned this so... There are a few strings of failsafe text that happen in Deltarune if the game somehow loads a conversation without assigned dialogue. One of these is very very interesting to say the least. Is that a cut on your face, or part of your eye? The gash weaves down as if you cry. The pain itself is reason why. This seems to be referencing the mystery man sprite from Undertale. While this alone could be dismissed as a coincidence, the second failsafe text string leads me to believe that this may be confirmation for mysteryman being indeed, Gaster. You can't read these symbols... Or maybe it's the handwriting. Now this one seems way more suspicious, because it seemingly references the WingDings font that Gaster is associated with. Again, no direct confirmation, but it's still something worth considering.
It simultaneously references Gaster... and the paper that Sans has in the mystery machine room in Undertale. Lots of people attribute "bad handwriting" to Alphys bc her handwriting is "chickenscratch" common amongst doctors. What if Alphys writes notes in Wingdings? And people just assume it's bad writing? Because that second line of text almost makes it sound like bad writing and Wingdings is the same thing.
also Jevils and Seams designs are very similar to the mistery man sprite as they have the distorted mouth and the cuts in the eyes (as well as Rouxls Kaard, but im still confused if Toby was making fun of us when designing RK)
something i literally didn't think of until a few days back, mettaton's quiz show "fight" has the question of who alphys has a crush on, and if the player chooses nothing, mettaton mentions that alphys seems to believe that there's someone outside their reality that is watching her. while mettaton completely combats it and mocks alphys in-game, and while the argument could be made that the vagueness is in reference to the player themselves, it could also be that alphys knows and/or believes gaster to still be out there and his presence to still be alive, and that she has/had feelings for him. it makes sense given that they're connected through their job, and that it's implied that sans, alphys, and gaster were working on things together. plus, alphys is confirmed to have a crush on asgore, so we know she is attracted to men, and that it's possible she had come into contact and known asgore prior to working under him as the royal scientist. just a thing i've noticed recently that i wanted to mention! gaster's presence is so intriguing and i can't wait to see what the future has in store for deltarune, both with possible ties to gaster as a character, and just as its own series!
i think the most damning evidence is that, of all fucking people ALPHYS has a line in the code as a comment around the crush question section. if that isn't proof she worked with the funny gaster breaks into the code to leave cryptic notes and details man i dont know what is.
I think that's more of a play on Alphys being a hardcore anime fan. There's this joke where legitimate hardcore weebs believe that their anime crush exists in another universe and such. Even that is pretty fitting for Alphys.
A couple of other connections you didn't mention: -Sans and Papyrus are specifically mentioned to have randomly appeared in the underground, which makes no sense given our understanding of how monsters ended up there in the first place. This could mean they were either created (presumably by Gaster, either intentionally or as a result of him being shattered across time and space) or that they came from another universe, like Deltarune (but maybe not Deltarune specifically). Sans even mentions giving up on "going back" as if the world he is in is not his home. -Sans' dialogue during his fight in the genocide route, his secret lab behind the house, his quantum physics book and his connection to Alphys imply that he was some kind of scientist at some point (he even hints that he knows about the amalgamates before you go into the true lab). Gaster was ALSO a royal scientist, so they may have worked together and whatever accident destroyed Gaster may explain Sans' strange abilities like teleporting and having knowledge of resets, LV, etc.
@@ciffet_muffin I believe it’s if you call Papyrus outside the true lab, Papyrus will say something about Alphys having dog food even though there aren’t any dogs in there and Sans will comment something like “I wouldn’t be so sure about that”
I think that the Sans in Undertale is probably the same one from Delta. I think at some point in Deltarune's story, Sans will somehow be banished to a different dimension, that being Undertale's. The reason I think this is because Sans is the ONLY character to look exactly the same in both Undertale and Deltarune. Every other character has some minor change in appearance EXCEPT for him. His house looks exactly the same. His theme song is the only song that appears in both games unchanged. Also in his bunker, there's a drawing of three people with the words "DONT FORGET" written on it. This is clearly a direct reference to Deltarune, and I think the three people are probably Ralsei, Susie, and Kris. This isn't a perfect theory, it definitely has some flaws, but it's the one that makes the most sense imo.
One point for Gaster's Theme, it appears very prominently at the end of a "kill everyone" run in Chapter 2 when visiting Noelle and Rudy at the hospital. It's not hidden at all, very very interesting.
Im very curious how Toby is gonna finish this character, if at all. He's been building up it's mystery and intrigue while still giving us enough crumbs to satisfy. Dr. W.D. Gaster's conclusion could be incredibly satisfying, answering the most major questions about him while still leaving his mysterys intact, or it could be very much not that. It's a fine line to cross, but I think Toby can tightrope it.
I'm incredibly surprised this barely mentioned the "What do you two think?" line. This was what really confirmed in a ton of people's heads that Gaster, Papyrus and Sans were related in some way since they made the most sense in a lot of ways to be who he was talking to. Even if you don't think the "you two" he's asking were Sans and Papyrus then it becomes a huge mystery to figure out, because obviously it means Gaster had some sort of close relationship to 2 characters we most likely know about
The concept art at the end of this video confirmed it imo. Since I'm fully convinced the concept of gaster was based on Toby's character concept that was removed from the story. You know, literally made to be an Undertale where everything was the same, but semi wasn't there. Just like how goners describe gaster
I always thought the "two" were Sans and Alphys, because they seem to be the ones who are hiding most things. Sans seems to have a secret connection to science, considering his secret workshop in the back of his house. Also he and Alphys are acquaintances and they appear to be close enough for Alphys to predict what Sans is about to say at one point, not only that, but Sans also hints in one of the phone calls that he knows exactly what's in the True lab. The strange thing is, neither Papyrus or Undyne seem to know how their friendship came to be, and Alphys gets really nervious when asked about it, meaning their connection has to be kept secret. All of this led me to believe the two were working together at some point, maybe with Dr. Gaster too, in some kind of proyect, a proyect they absolutely can't talk about.
Honestly I like to think that Gaster and sans (and papyrus) are connected in some way. And since gaster was shattered across time and space I like to think that *somehow* Gaster is in deltarune but also that bc of that sans and papyrus KNOW about undertale and yourself, the player. I don't even know why I think that and it's prolly not true but I thunk it would be fun if it were lol
I’ve always been a fan of undertale, but never was interested in the fandom as a whole and looked down on it a bit (mostly because I was too old for it and they were a bit rabid back in the day) so when you mentioned fandom, I was more then a little worried this video would be difficult to watch for people not into the culture. However, I was pleasantly surprised that the video is very friendly to people out of the loop and enjoyable to watch. Good job on the intro parody by the way, hearing that specific theme (was it called “fallen down”?) was a nostalgia trip.
He "fell into his creation." I love this line. Let me ramble a bit. The song during the character creator in Deltarune Chapter 1 -- or rather, SURVEY PROGRAM -- is "Another Him," and you're making what's explicitly called a "creation." Our creation. And after it's discarded, the narrator explicitly tells you that you cannot choose what you are, and tells you your name. But we never hear the end of that sentence. We never hear our name. It fades to white, and Toriel immediately cuts in, waking Kris for school. The end of the narrator's sentence is left open, but the implication is there. But Kris... isn't just one person. The endings of both chapters make it rather clear there's a duality. A creation. A survey. One person. Two beings. "What do you two think?" I bet all the money in my pockets that if we hear that question again, the only recipient will be Kris.
The first time one of my friends played Undertale they got Dr. Gaster‘s room to appear and thought to themselves “oh that’s an odd place to have a door I’ll just come back to this later” then they came back later and the door was gone lol
the intro to deltarune does actually reference the 'VERY VERY INTERESTING' line. if you type susie's name into one of the name entry things (don't remember if it's the vessel or player, though) the voice will say "YOU ARE ABOUT TO MEET SOMEONE VERY VERY WONDERFUL"
23:15 if you've ever played gaster's theme on a piano, and have played that part of jevils theme, you realize that really is, as andrew said "three gaster motifs in a trenchcoat"
Remember that Gaster was split into space in time, so that means he probably was split into different timelines as well, and Sans is (usually) always interacting with the player instead of the character (looks at you, breaks the 4th wall sometimes) meaning that he may be trying to find Gaster through the multiverses while also making sure nothing “bad” happens to those respective timelines due to an immense amount of caringness. Best theory I got that makes the most sense tbh.
When they mention the Gaster's motif in Undertale songs, they should have said "in the description will be a playlist with all the songs for the possible Gaster's motif" and then when you go into the description it's just the entire Undertale soundtrack
One important thing you forgot: In chapter 1 dark world, there is a one-time secret room you can enter where a man hidden behind a tree gives you an egg. You can put this egg into Asgores fridge in the overworld permanently and see it duplicated in there afterwards in the real world. In chapter 2 you can enter a similiar secret room in the cyber dark world where you can get another egg by the man hidden behind the tree. You can put this one in the egg basket in Sans' store. You can do this in any run and the secret room theme sounds similiar to Gaster's theme. Here is the real kicker: "egg" in wingdings font is "finger pointing left", "finger pointing up" and another "finger pointing up". A *Knight in Chess* can move sideways once and forward twice.
honestly i think that gaster's experiment spoken of in entry 17 is about trying to create a dark world/fountain. and if it is, him shattering across time and space from falling into a dark fountain he created would make sense with not only the man behind the tree in deltarune, but how he's associated with darkness and how he's potentially influencing darkners like jevil and spamton
@@sydney_pepper People put pieces together and came to the conclusion that he's giving Kris the eggs not just as a funny way to have legitimate Easter eggs, but also to reference the "Knight". EGG (all caps) in Wingdings has this pattern, I'm using emojis to represent it: 👈☝️☝️ Left, up, up. An exact move that a Knight on a chess board would make. Next, you've got one of the characters from chapter 1, one of the Pawn characters from the Great Board, directly calling Kris "Horsey" instead of his actual name, yet again, representative of a Knight on a chess board. You can take these eggs and put them in seemingly nonsensical locations for no reason. You can put the chapter 1 egg inside of Asgore's fridge and end up with two eggs in there somehow, and then the chapter 2 egg inside of the egg basket in Sans', multiplying them to be "a considerably larger amount".
The 6 recurring isn’t just because its an “evil number” I think it is because it is the number that most closely represents his letter G, G and 6 are meant to be associated with him
true though (I haven't finished the vid maybe it was mentioned) "666" occurs at least a couple times in the code and stuff related to gaster so it's a wink from toby
I was there in 2015-16, i saw all this gaster lore unfold after my very eyes, yet i still sat and watched a 20 minute video of mostly stuff that i already knew because of the sheer enjoyment i get from seeing people taking coverage on topics like these. Great video, i genuinely wonder why i didn't comment when i first saw this last year
I played UT almost right after it came out, but left the fandom due to being an edgy teenager and viewing the fans as cringe... then DR sucked me back in and spat out my pride, and now even later I'm finally doing the research I should've done all those years ago!
Could "Gaster" be a pormantaeu of "ghast" meaning ghost, and "aster" the font? It would kinda make sense considering Gaster's etherial presence in the world.
Honestly I’d forgotten all the lore behind Gaster and his complete significance to the story after 5 years, glad you made this, really needed this with how invested I am in Deltarune
One thing I noticed a long time ago that no one seems to talk about is the OTHER songs in the secret soundest in undertale, happy town, meat factory, and trouble dingle. First off, no matter what direction you press, they will scroll through the 4 songs in the sound test in the same order regardless; happy town > meat factory > trouble dingle > gasters theme. Once you scroll to the next song, you have to to cycle through the remaining songs in line to get back to the one you were on. At least, it does that until you start playing gasters theme. After that, you can scroll through them in either direction. However, now you can’t deactivate gasters theme or activate any of the others. It’s permanently stuck in one state, while still allowing you to view others, but never taking part in them. Who does that remind you of? Side note: it’s also worth noting that the names could very well be parallels to the actual events that led to gasters disappearance; first, he lived in a happy town. Then, he fell into his creation, a sort of “meat factory” (alternatively, the meat factory could be referring to his experiments). After that, the trouble dingle represents his disappearance, and then finally his transformation into Gaster, able to view any state in time or dimensions but never able to interact with them. Sorry that was a lot. I hope at least some of what I said made some sense, lol.
I mean, the job of a meat factory is to take living creatures and break them down into pieces, so maybe it's comparing Gaster falling into the Core and being shattered to an animal being butchered and cut up into pieces? OK, so that's a bit of a reach, but it kind of almost works, at least thematically.
Deltarune is turning out to be such a beautiful game as the chapters release when they can be released. Updates are given at times and it's not rushed. When the next chapter does come out and hype has basically died, the gameplay, music, everything really, brings the community swinging back to the game and everything just jamming out.
6:06 The fun part about this is that people at some point pointed out that this is NOT a prank call. If one says no, he gives a nonjoke-answer that makes it sound like it's an important matter to get the fridge back running. The only room in these games that have important fridges is the fridgeroom in the true lab. Which coincidentially, he is very much implied to have helped with at some point. 6:26 Major note here: Even tho Goner Kid is not a Gaster Follower, they are very much key to the goner lore and what the plan could have been at the start of Deltarune. The playerentity that is supposed to represent us travels to the world of Deltarune and connects with Gaster to create a goner body(The creator is actually called the Goner Maker, funny name), but why? Why didn't we just take a poor person like Kris without being forced to? Well, Goner Kid has a line if they are talked to with debug-mode enabled. "Yo! You're a ??? too, right?" Debug mode allows all sorts of nonsense, but the most relevant parts for this train of thought are: Teleport to any room, all goners are enabled at the same time and we can arbitrarily set the murderlevel for the genocide route(Which argubly is traveling to a slightly diffrent universe). So they mistake Frisk for a Goner because they presumably have similar abilities at that point. Suddenly the opening of deltarune makes perfect sense. For whatever goal the player is traveling to deltarune, a goner body would be amazing to have. Travel the map in seconds at will, spot and identify anyone who is suspicious and sidestep any potential issue. 13:44 That's not technically true. When calling ourselves either "Kris", "Susie" or "Noelle", he will say that we are about to meet someone "very very wonderful". Something fun is that the Voice also doesn't only appear here and in the gameover-screen, but also the main menu when there isn't any clear data of the chapter. When one erases a savefile, he says "IT WAS AS IF IT WAS NEVER THERE AT ALL.", which ties into the idea of stuff just vanishing without a trace. 25:15 Technically wrong. In the major expositiondump in new home, three dummies appear to tell a segment of the story. I agree with the idea, but I like to be nitpicky. 25:36 That was actually patched back in, just slightly renamed to look less suspicious I guess. Some people say that the number 999 is associated with this character, but I can't really find a source for that, so take that with a grain of salt. Why 999 is relevant is that there is unused content in Deltarune using the Typervalue 999. This unused text doesn't actually contain any relevant info, it's just an introduction to Toriel trying to wake Kris up. But the fact that it even exists like that is very interessting. On "another him", Gaster is never actually reffered to as "him", only his theme is. So I'd say the name is actually directly referencing that. It's another version of the theme called him. There's more about Sans and the True Lab and Gaster's creations and even the eggs to mention, but it feels sorta offtopic compared to the corethematic of Gaster. Well, except that it's sorta implied that some parts of him did become eggs for some reason.
on the subject of 999 - chara actually seems to be the one associated with the number 9. it's seen very frequently as the damage when you one-hit bosses in genocide, the stats chara mentions in the end of genocide all max out at values of 999, the locket and real knife are def/atk 99 respectively, the damage chara does to the game window at the very end is a ton of 9's, unique narration comes up if you talk to asgore 9 times in his battle ("all you can do is FIGHT"), sans is fought at LV 19, etc. chara seems to be related to deltarune somehow, considering they're probably the one who discarded your vessel, based on the japanese translation. another interesting thing to note is that chara-like text appears in undertale's files - this was added in the january 2016 update: "i see. you have made yourself completely clear. i, your humble servant, shall follow you to the utmost." (this is especially chara-like because chara calls you a partner and states that they followed your "guidance.") if chara can speak in the files, and destroy the game window, then they could definitely be an ever-present force like gaster is. not to mention, chara sure does like to reiterate that your choices don't matter. "since when were you the one in control?" so it wouldn't surprise me at all if they're related to deltarune. anyway... all that to say that chara is related to the number 999 and since they seem to have significance in deltarune, that unused room might mean something.
Gaster does get referred to as "him". The name of the images on deltarune's old website that contained the messages in wingdings were titled "him.png", his theme is also titled "mus_him" if i'm not mistaken.
@@regulate.artificer_g23.mdctlsk theoretically thats exactly what would happen red would be cyan green would be purple blue would be yellow and black would be white and vice versa but we cant exactly do tests to prove it
@@regulate.artificer_g23.mdctlsk It means that instead of emiting light, it emits darkness. Much like the darkness that comes out of the closet door in chapter 1.
It sort of is, since the whole thing is that the character was deleted from existence, there is no decisive proof in-game of who he is nor how he looks and Toby sure as hell never even acknowledged it The mysteryman sprite is just a likely candidate
Well, that’s just the result of Gaster being a continuous point of speculation ever since Undertale’s original release. Easy to assume everyone’s at least vaguely familiar with him. That said, it’s really cool to see how many new people joined the fandom after Chapter 2. I hope this trend continues in future chapter releases.
@@mussi_125 You can get the door, but the chance of it ever spawning is decided at the start of the run, and only 1% of runs are even eligible to have it spawn (the fun value on your save must be set to 66) A way to know if you got the right run is to see if any other rare events happen, only 1 fun value event can happen per run, so if you see any other you can tell your run won't have it spawn The way people do 100% secrets runs is by saving, editing the FUN value and loading, but in PS4 you can't afaik
It would make sense that gaster melted because of determination of some sort, as it is mentioned that in order to make a darkworld a lightener needs to bedeternined to do so, and Gaster appears to havesome connection to the darkworld shenanigans
Something that's honestly kind of terrifying about the core is that, if you fall in and die, not only will you not technically die, but everyone will forget you ever existed as well
That was based on a common interpretation of the secret picture you find in Sans' lab, the one with three badly drawn people and "don't forget" scribbled on the back. People have interpreted it as a child's drawing of the skeleton family, Sans, Papyrus and Gaster as their father/grandfather/uncle who adopted them, and the "don't forget" is Sans doing his best to fight the amnesia caused by the CORE when Gaster fell into it, his "creation". Come Deltarune, heavily hinted to be something Gaster created and has worked on, with its three Delta Warriors, of which Toby has made a drawing that seems very childish, and its "Don't forget" theme appearing everywhere... and now you have a whole other plethora of wild mass guessing.
Wait hold up, the ice might be proof of this, ice is used to cool down the core as we see it travelling from snowdin, to waterfall, to just before hotland, and then to the core, falling in into the core Ice wolf throws the ice into the river carrying it there, if you call papyrus he says that nobody knows where the ice goes, maybe it's because they forget? Like "oh yeah that ice goes into the core to cool it down", then the ice falls into the core "I don't remember saying that", people forgot Edit: nevermind, if you call papyrus and undyne, undyne tells papyrus that alphys told her that it goes into the core to cool it down
@@JeffDeff-hp3el You don't die, you literally have your existence shattered across Time and Space, both existing and not existing, with all memory of your existence gone. There's not even a past version of you anymore, as that too has ceased to be. You never existed, yet you still exist while barely existing at all. Seeing through the borders of reality, seeing through all fates, all realities, all possibilities. Every event, every dream, every nightmare across Space and Time going through your existent yet non existent mind as your existence collapses in on itself, reforming yet again, before ceasing once more.
@@ManicFictionHow could we never exist if the CORE still exists? Does Gaster die then Asgore just like, waits an absurdly long time to get a new royal scientist? Asgore waiting a long time to get a new scientist doesn’t make sense if he forgot Gaster’s existence.
I remember hearing the "garbage noise" for the first time and flipping out. The implications are insane! It's crazy how many new fans don't realize how big this is.
Also when you stand at the bunker in deltarune for a while a noise starts playing, and I believe if you speed that up by 666% it becomes the "garbage noise," further confirming presence of gaster in deltarune. Many fans (including myself) believe that the bunker and more importantly what's in it somehow tie to gaster. I personally hope that throughout the rest of deltarune there are bits and pieces of stuff that make you say "WAIT WAS THAT GASTER" but it's never confirmed. I WANT MYSTERY MAN TO STAY MYSTERIOUS. That's just my opinion tho
Same. What I think is going to happen, and what I really hope Toby is going to go for, is that Deltarune proper will have a satisfying resolution, clearing up everything with the Knight, Asriel and everyone, but there’ll always be hints that something darker (yet darker) is happening in the background. It’s basically already what’s happening so far with Jevil and Spamton, and I hope Toby doesn’t feel the need to integrate the secret bosses and their backstories into the main story of the game. My big tinfoil hat theory is that the bunker is going to be a location that’s important to the main story, since it’s so prominent in the setting and there was that scene with Monster Kid, but there’ll be some hidden area there, far more expansive than the main bunker itself, probably revealed using shadow crystals, that either wraps up Gaster’s and the secret bosses’ stories or sets up whatever Toby is going to do after Deltarune.
I mean, at some point the Gaster bait is gonna get so intense that Gaster needs to be revealed. From a narrative perspective, Toby is ramping up the Gaster stuff more and more and it appears as though it's going to build up to a payoff. Of course, I can't say this for certain, but don't be disappointed if all is eventually revealed
"Gaster has to babysit his boss's kid for all eternity."
Even without the context of who Chara is, that is a version of Hell on its own.
Regardless of your views on Chara it'd have to be a real pain. Even if it's like mine the kid's probably a fucking handful even under the best circumstances, bet they break down crying about their dead brother and all the mistakes they made every few cycles and he's just gotta be like "UH, THERE THERE, KIDDO." cuz it's like he's an eccentric scientist he doesn't know how to help emo kids with their depression.
Anyone who's ever had to take care of a kid some point of their lives will know how torturous it is to deal with one. Kids are bastards man.
One possible theory is Gaster could have been the scientist that did experiments on Chara for determination. Considering he was the royal scientist for the Dreamurr's while Chara was still alive, and they both are no longer confined to their respective worlds.
Another interesting theory is Noelle's sister in Deltarune has gone missing, and the giant Gasterblaster in the lab looks very similar to a deer's head. Currently Gaster seems like he can offer power (Jevil, Spamton) but it comes at a price.
Gaster might also be the friendly dude who gives Kris an egg.
@@chaoticneutralsheep I heard a theory about the egg person. Apparently, if you type the word "EGG" (I forgot whether it has to all be capital), into Wing Dings, it makes three hand letters. And these hands make the movement a knight in chess makes. So the egg person could also be the Knight. However, I'm not completely sure that it is true, but the video about it is on TH-cam, and it's about this larger "Chess Theory"
@@thisisanuncreativeusername2745 30yo r/childfree ussers when someone asks them to watch their small kid for 1 second:
I can't believe we're at the point when we are like "we gotta explain gaster to the kids"
Damn were old
@@fandomtraveler7953 😂😂😂😂
I'm twelve and I couldn't believe he didn't know who gaster was, he probably just missed the peak or didn't get a tablet at like five (A bit young to have a device tbh)
Still doesnt dismantle the fact 99% of gaster's "lore" is fan theory/fanon
Exactly the same as explaining what a "Herobrine" is to the kids
"It wouldn't be very [BIG SHOT] of Gaster to make the seizure warning indecipherable" LMFAO
Why is it you’re literally on every comments section I’ve looked at?😂
Wait, was that a [BIG SHOT] just now!
yoooo, its animagician,, ur vids r fire
Oh hello DSMP theorist.
@@namedsomething870 you just mistaked animagician (whoever the hell that is) for OwO.
"Does Gaster mug you?" "Two of them." "Maybe Gaster has to babysit his boss's kid for all eternity." God I want this characterization to be Canon.
You beat gaster and he just immediately shoots you and takes your money
It's canon somewhere 😂
I saw quote except the last one
gaster uses his hands as finger guns to rob you
☜☟✩∞◡̈⃝︎φ∑∑❆
Gaster is canonically aware of Covid
This is the most mind blowing thing in this video
"ENTRY NUMBER 17
DARK DARKER YET DARKER
THE DARKNESS KEEPS GROWING
THE SHADOWS CUTTING DEEPER
PHOTON READING NEGATIVE
WAIT
EVERYONE JUST CALLED IN SICK
GOD DAMNIT I WAS JUST GOING TO SHOW OFF MY NEW CREATION
SO I'LL JUST TURN ON THE LIGHTS NOW"
He’s watching with a cup of tea like “poor humans, with their vulnerable biological systems and antibodies…” -he takes a long solemn sip- “…well, I don’t have lungs, so…”
@@asaghcfgdfuyvhrghflowey9997 that wouldn't work, being as the "darkness" is a physical thing unlike real darkness
@@3bodYking99 WHY DON'T YOU GO FIND SOME REAL BITCHES INSTEAD OF FAKE ONES
I mean it IS possible since they say he is "shattered across time and space"
I genuinely never thought of how new fans would see Gaster until now
He was such a big deal back in the day with comics and theories sprouting practically every week so it's insane that some people don't know him
Agreed it felt like he was everywhere back in the day! Makes me feel a tad bit old in a way
To be fair I don’t think Toby Fox himself ever mentioned if he did created W.D. Gaster or what is it’s role, unless I’ve missed some posts on he’s Twitter.
@@user-1mc0n4us.ed-_- true true
I feel the same. I took it for granted that people just knew who gaster was
Deltarune didn't explode as hard as Undertale and we couldn't really expect it to
The funniest thing to me is how, if the mysterious narrator really is him, it means that canonically Gaster is an avid user of Twitter.
we do know hes on that phone..
he's a twitter user but he writes like a facebook user
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODAMSPDWAIRNFSOIERNSIORFARFETDRTGES
Omfg I'm gonna cry
Well being shattered across space time isn’t probably a good thing mentally.
Something I noticed is that during the height of undertale’s popularity Gaster was portrayed by fans as a tall calm/collected person but when the first two chapters of deltarune were released fans started portraying him as a silent large uneven monstrous shadow accompanied by quiet whispers and broken speech. This is probably because Gaster has an actual presence in deltarune looming over everything which is most likely what caused this change into something more monstrous.
In undertale he felt like a reference to cut content, something left lost and unable to do anything about it.
Deltarune starts with letting us know "no he very much CAN do something, and good luck discerning his motives"
From what I remember of Undertale Gaster it seemed like he was being depicted as the fans imagined he might have been prior to falling into the core, or otherwise showing residual traits of that persona. So the calm and collected demeanour comes from assumptions of what "the previous Royal Scientist" would be like, and tall probably comes mostly from the mystery man sprite being relatively tall. Since there was so little information in the first place it fits that the perception changed so much the moment there was more to work off with the hints in Deltarune.
I think it’s that Undertale fans very much know that they’re dabbling in fanon when they create their gaster interpretations and revel in that fact. If you asked someone who drew a tall sexy man gaster if that’s how they thought he’d really look chances are they’d say “uhh, no? He’s a weird little blob man or something”
Keep in mind that there was plenty of spooky mysterious looming entity art of gaster even in the Undertale days.
I think it’s more that because gaster is now an active player in the story and we’re getting so many more hints about him right out in the open, there’s greater motivation for people to create artwork more true to how he may actually be within canon
(It also helps that Deltarune has a much much smaller AU scene than Undertale had and continues to have to this day)
Well, Wingdings is a dingbat font, so it would make sense if he was a little off-the-wall in his personal life. After the V-day card, I imagine W. D. being like that one comic: "Sans?! Where are my whats-its and doohickeys!? Here, take your groceries, put your brother in the fridge."
But when it comes to research Entries? All business.
@@Ally_Leaf I kinda like this interpretation. People are hesitant to say the vday card was gaster because the cadence is so silly - it seems more in line with the Egg man, who himself seems to be either gaster or connected to gaster, but even that’s controversial.
But to me it seemed to perfectly in line with gaster’s vibe. He’s this broken entity that has limited vectors for interaction. This time he manifests as a valentines letter because that’s how everyone else is communicating, but he can’t mimic it perfectly. The letter is pre written and yet it responds to the reader in real time, and when you’re finished reading it disappears and you hear footsteps. The cadence and style is silly, but maybe gaster is silly.
I’ve also considered that maybe scary straight man gaster and egg man goofball gaster are different gasters - one from undertale and the other from Deltarune.
I like to believe that his “creation” was actually Deltarune itself. A world where monsters and humans could live together in peace. He fell into his creation, and pieces off himself were shatters across time and space. A bit in Undertale. A bit in deltarune. Maybe bits somewhere else.
alright here is my new crackpot theory that makes literally 0 sense
gaster invented sans
sans was just a normal monster that originated in the delta universe
at some point in time sans ended up somehow leaving deltarune and being trapped in the undertale universe, where everything sucks and hes forced to live underground
it would explain why he seems relatively unchanged in deltarune
and some other things probably
this is almost definitely wrong
i made this theory up in like five seconds lol
Considering that, last I checked, the description for Deltarune lists it as being in the Undertale *series,* this does make sense. Toby Fox said he was planning Deltarune for quite some time, so perhaps he was planning for Gaster then too?
@@bumblebot2458 I think Deltarune has been in development since far before Undertale. Considering how much more prominent his role is in the former, I wouldn't be surprised if Gaster was originally created for Deltarune's story, and his appearances in UT are simply foreshadowing.
@@peterjohnson11655 i think gaster was made just to connect ut and dr at some point
@@blokos_ i wouldnt be surprised
it definitely seems to me though that gaster was originally a deltarune character who was referenced in undertale in the form of easter eggs
i have a feeling his role in deltarune will be much greater than it ever was in undertale, though that doesnt necessarily mean he'll be incredibly important to the story
Here's my own take on why Gasters theme appears everywhere:
Gaster was shattered across time and space. His musical representation then ALSO is shattered across time and space. Giving you a feeling of him always being around, watching.
THATS ACTUALLY SO FUCKING COOL-WOW
BROO I NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT THE MUSIC LIKE THAT
and because of the theme being so simple it's very easy to hear it in places outside of toby's influence
ever just shatter yourself into the hat in time song "Peace and Tranquility"
I like this theory very very much :P
That's the reason it's so simple too. It appears everywhere, not intentionally, but because Gaster's shatterd pieces have worked their way into the actual universe itself.
My brother’s favorite Undertale memory is when he played the game for his first time and came across the gray door in Waterfall out of sheer coincidence, but he decided to skip the door and come back to it in a second not realizing that the door and hallway would disappear after leaving. He then told me about it (around this time I was deep into canon lore and fan theories and knew all about Gaster), and I just stared at him for a second and told him that he found a rare chance happening and just left it. He laughed so hard. Honestly pretty hilarious now that I’m typing this out lol
yeah its so rare, after 5 years of bieng in the undertale/deltarune comunity and laying undertale over and over again, i never found it once, still to this day i never found it, i did find 2 gaster followers tho
Talk about the chances, that kinda reminds me when I was replaying Undertale some days before Chapter 2 would be announced for Switch and I got the Wrong Number event
Dude, how many times your brother played Undertale?
I remember when I was playing Undertale on my tablet, I unexpectedly met one of Gaster's followers. I think I laughed as much as your brother did, because then I didn't know that at the beginning of each playthrough the fun number is generated differently
Lucky I hunted for it for 4 hours no luck
13:46 There’s no VERY, VERY INTERESTING, but if you name yourself “KRIS”, “SUSIE” or “NOELLE” you’ll get the voice telling you you’re about to meet someone VERY, VERY WONDERFUL, so
not Kris, I don't think
Maybe it’s the mystery person from the valentines news letter, that person seems like the opposite of gaster in everyway while also seeming related
@@existenceispain_geekthesirenyes, i did so and gaster said that
You know who he didn't do this with?
RALSEI
i think i got a VERY VERY INTERESTING if you do the vessel name as one from the game and they just seem fed up if you put the vessel name and your own name as the same one
Can you imagine if Undertale came out before datamining and the internet was such a big thing? One day, you're playing through it like usual when you see a weird, grey NPC who mentions a guy called Gaster who never comes up in the main story. You never see this NPC again on any subsequent playthroughs. You post on a forum to ask if anyone has seen anything like this and the only responses you get are "idk man sounds like a glitch or something." or people assuming you made it up, and you're left to wonder if it did actually happen
And then it could potentially become a creepy pasta 😭
Exactly. It's just as toby said in his audio "IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO HAVE SECRETS NOWADAYS. BeE-cAuSe OoF NoI-sY pEoPlE lIkE yOu!". Glad it got release nowadays tho
TBH kinda like Missingo in Pokemon Red and Blue.
You'll get vague playground rumors and boom.
I do believe UT would have been in a similar boat without the internet, but I also don't think it would have hit so hard either, because 4th wall breaks are important and in the genocide route when Flowey is talking to you he mentions how the player and him are better than those who are just watching.
IE kinda hitting the outside world who is too scared or not wanting to ruin their save with the genocide route.
@@hope.world.mp3845 one day, a kid named johnny buys a pirated copy of undertale, but it was haunted, and there's this dead doctor's soul who haunt the undertale cartridge
@@kakyoindonut3213 and sans had empty eye sockets and blood flowing out of them when you fought him in genocide instead of his one blue one
Then the game opens your real life computer camera it shows you’re missing your eyes too and there’s also blood flowing out of them but that’s not real because you can still see and then blood starts coming out of your ceiling, landing on your face and then the air around you goes cold and then you hear what sounds to be the wingading text sound W.D Gaster has playing in the dark corner of your room.. in your closed closet in which you hear something shift from within and then the door slowly but surely slink open… and then.. and then..
sans
Let's be honest here, if Toby were ever to confirm that the mysteryman sprite isn't gaster, the Fandom would go absolutely ballistic. 1000's of fan fiction writers' dreams would be crushed violently.
I mean he basically already did that just by releasing Chapter 2. :p
i could see him doing that
It's not a possibility, it's a fact. One of the followers said gaster was shattered across time and space, and that he's holding a piece of him. This means gaster is in pieces, and can't LOOK a certain way.
@@dhararry7929 nah toby already confirmed that mystery man is gaster
@@Lemon-wr7mr when?
fun fact: I was like 12 when I played Undertale for the first time, and I was absolutely SO UPSET by having to leave Toriel. I was calling her, over and over again, in every room, only to get no response... and then I got the wrong number call and I swear to god it made me cry
Poor guy lmao, must have legit been horrible...
god the same thing happened to me when i first played undertale! i was literally floored that i had to leave her and i was so sad, and EVEN WORSE was that i almost killed her, until one of my more knowledgeable-on-undertale friends let me know that it was bad.
i was a video game junkie, normally a "FIGHT" option doesn't do any sort of ethical brain-fuck.
Toriel doesn’t respond because…. The dog stole her phone! (I’m not kidding. Call her in the dog room.)
SAME
when I was 12 I thought I was an edgy almost adult teenager 💀
the end of the "garbage noise" even sounds a bit like a scream, and to me that makes sense because, based on what happened to gaster and his current form, he must exist in some form of pain
"Is that a cut on your face, or part of your eye? The gash runs down as if you cry. The pain itself is the reason why."
-error handler code
the "garbage noise" is confirmed to be (at least a derivative of) Muffet's laugh, just slowed down, pitch bent, reversed, looped, and distorted in some crazy ways. If you speed up mus_smile (the Entry 17 "music" track) over 1000% and pitch bend it back, you get something resembling Muffet's laugh back out. So, who knows... it could just be his laugh stretched across space and time (quite literally)? It could just be a coincidence that he sounds like Muffet, though.
@@TeslabladePlaysMC Voice got distorted into high-pitch, before echoing super slowed down lol
@@TeslabladePlaysMCits likely the otherway around, muffets laugh is derived off of gaster, my headcanon as to why thats muffets laugh is that it probably has to do with meta stuff since muffet was a kickstarter character unlike most characters
@@RADZULAYXE Good point! In all of my thinking of how the mus_smile sound was made, it feels pretty likely that mus_smile was made with Muffet's laugh as a base first, then Muffet was made last. I can't really think of a pre-existing filter to manipulate audio to make quite the effect that we hear in mus_smile, but my idea of how the sound was made is by taking a small window of samples from a source audio, playing them in a loop, and shifting the sample window every once in a while. I can't think of a way to do that backwards and get a certain audio output out, so either mus_smile was made really late into development, after Muffet was proposed (which i personally doubt), or the Muffet laugh has been in the game for a much longer time.
Either that or Toby Fox is a genius and there used to be a different mus_smile that got somehow modulated with Muffet's laugh? Just a guess.
It’s very fitting that the character who was scattered across reality has a theme simple enough that it can be heard in the background of most songs
I thought the same thing, it's also fitting that he's everywhere from the code to the games to the lore to freaking twitter
I will say though that apart from the undertale main theme, the other examples given are pretty likely not linked to gaster because even if the musical structure is similar, the underlying chords are fundamentally different in such a way that it's more likely a coincidence.
@@ericy1817 i think that is what they are saying, gaster (or rather, his theme) is everywhere because he was shattered across reality
@@-FutureTaken- My point isn't that gaster isn't everywhere, but rather the assertion that his theme is everywhere is questionable because it's pretty likely that the other instances of the theme might just be coincidences from other common musical structures.
@@ericy1817 thank you for saying this
any song can be seen as gasters theme
its such a simple melody
literally any melody that goes up and then down can be gasters theme
THEORY: Gaster’s theme is intentionally simple, we’re hearing it everywhere because his pieces were scattered everywhere when he shattered through time and space
THEORY 2 : Sans and Papyrus are Gaster's fragments, which explain how they just suddenly appeared and how mysterious they are as well.
I think that is a very distinct posibility. Destiny 2 did something similar recently, where a portion of music that has been part of the main theme of the game (which made its way into most secondary themes) for years was shown to be evil-song-magic-thing-earworm of the big bad.
Knowing Toby you may have hit the bullseye there 👀
@@oppositeday429 I mean, this is a valid theory that goes around, especially in a lot of fanworks, fan comics, and AUs.
It reminds me of a comic I used to read on tumbler that had Chara's "back story", and both sans AND papyrus were the royal "scientist"
@@oppositeday429 the Handplates comic says that Sans and Papyrus are parts/fragments of Gaster and since he got erased from existence, some parts of the brothers did too, so that explains why they're "glitchy" as in why Papyrus can "fly" and why Sans can teleport and mess with the game
When you name yourself "Susie" in Deltarune, the narrator says "you are about to meet someone very, very wonderful". He also calls some names "an interesting coincidence". So the connections are there.
that also happens with a few other main characters
I dont see why everyone thinks gaster being the vessel creation narrator is a theory that needs evidence, entry 17 uses a typer value of 666 and so does the vessel narrator, practically confirming it
@Owen Lloyd Oh god you just added something new to the theory pile
@@leedlelel2373 exactly. Some dude said to me that because Toby wants to make DELTARUNE it’s own thing, it doesn’t have any connections. This was AFTER Chapter 2, in fact, a few days ago. It’s incredible how even with the intro to the game, Jevil, Seam and Spamton NEO, there are people who STILL think that there are no connections!
@@CaptainCoolzCT- Spamton NEO literally using motifs and instruments from Undertale songs as part of his theme and then people still say there's no connection.
I absolutely love how there's ONE piece of text we get from Gaster. We hear (or uh.. see?) him speak ONCE
But we almost immideately knew it was him in these tweets and at the beginning of the game just by the speaking mannerisms and the wording he uses. IT WASN'T EVEN THE SAME FONT!!!!!!
And here ladies and gentelmen is what good fucking writing is.
fr.
Point blank
I actually also think Gaster is more likely to be a Deltarune character since many things we know about him could be forshadowings to deltarune. Also Toby wanted to make Deltarune bwfore he came up with Undertale.
He is definitely asriel's college professor
the only thing that he is for sure in Deltarune is still very very trapped
Undertale seems to be a story inside Deltarune
like, a fairy tale?
this may explain why both games have practically the same characters. Someone may have written a story (maybe that was even Gerson) about the town, OR USED the residents as characters for it. Just think about it, it's not far fetched
@@Swaggingdaily I really like this Idea.
@@peeka_ undertale is literally called an under... tale so it kinda makes a lot of sense
"It wouldn't be very BIG SHOT of Gaster to make the epilepsy warning indecipherable" is such a great string of words to me for some reason, especially if someone had never heard of Undertale before
Speaking of gaster, my biggest regret was not entering the mystery man room when it appeared on my first playthrough because I was playing blind.
A 1/1000 chance, too.
That...really sucks. I'm sorry to hear that.
if that happened on my first playthrough i would shit my pants and wouldve taken longer to beat it
wait so did you reset super early on or something
@@TerraKnight27 No they just got really lucky on fun value.
@@DominikPac-Boy the fun value is always the same before your first reset
"It wouldn't be very Big Shot of Gaster to make the seizure warning indescifrable" - Misty
I LOVE the "you had to be there" factor for Deltarune ch1's initial release. The tweets. The survey program file. Not knowing what it was then being MINDBLOWN when it turned out to be an entire new game. It was fantastic.
(Honestly given that Toby was working on deltarune so far ahead of undertale, im like 99% sure the reason that gaster was so vague in undertale was that he was a teaser for deltarune)
"im like 99% sure the reason that gaster was so vague in undertale was that he was a teaser for deltarune"
Same here! I try not to get my hopes up but I can't help thinking: if I was in Toby's shoes, I would want to not only create a fascinating "dummied out" mystery in my game's files, but actually pay off on it in a big way later on.
⬥︎♋︎■︎⧫︎ ♏︎♑︎♑︎✍︎
@@diamondmatter2919 i literally remember where i WAS when it dropped. it was in homeroom art class and i saw tweets like “IS THIS UNDERTALE 2? WHAT THE HELL IS THIS” AND IT WAS SOME SKETCHY ASS PROGRAM I DOWNLOADED OVER SCHOOL WIFI AND LIKE THREE PEOPLE CROWEDED AROUND ME ON MY SHITTY LITTLE SURFACE TABLET WATCHING ME PLAY IT WAS SUCH A GOOD EXPERIENCE
Straight up thought I had a virus and deleted then redownloaded it akjfds
@@pyramidserum I remember where I was too! I was in my room, after a trick or treat night. I think it was REALLY dark out and I wasn’t able to understand what was going on??? people on wattpad we’re going insane but I couldn’t understand so I just went to sleep and the next day (first of November) i woke and went crazy
One more reason people think Gaster is the skelebros' father, is because no one remembers him and skelebros are said to have just shown up one day. If their creator/parent was erased from everyone's memory, it would make sense for people to see them as if they just appeared out of thin air. Of course this is just a theory, but that is the strongest piece of evidence for it IMO.
Personally my favorite idea i saw in a comic is that sans and papyrus were cloned out of two pieces of gaster’s hands. Hence, the holes in the hands
@@jebus4261 handplates one?
@@davidpico1579 maybe. I don't remember.
@@davidpico1579 handplates was THE undertale comic.
@@shafootodess This assumption mostly comes from no one aside from Gaster's followers acknowledging him, plus Goner Kid's dialogue. And I think there was also some dialogue about no one knowing where the core came from, but I don't remember where. If you want to categorize it that way, then it is a theory, that stems from another theory. It's not baseless fanfiction tho.
Something I feel like a lot of people aren’t talking about enough is the fact that, in the Deltarune timeline, Gaster should still be alive. No royalty = no royal scientist = no experiments = no “creation” = no falling into “creation” = no space time bullshit blah blah blah you get the idea. Unless the space-time-shattering affected him across all timelines somehow, or something else happened in this timeline to achieve the same result. Maybe Gaster as a character is just “doomed” to a fate such as that, similar to how Deltarune Burgerpants seems to be “doomed” to live a similar life to his Undertale one despite the radically different circumstances?
He may exist and be alive, we can't be sure just yet
Perhaps he works in the sealed bunker
The mystery door plays mus_smile slowed down. Could be his place
He may be a fucking dentist for all we know
I like how this theory implies Asgore is doomed to be divorced, just for that I have to endorse it.
My headcanon is that he did the same experiment, but in the bunker
i’d also like to note that the rabbit shopkeeper in snowdin says that sans and papyrus “just showed up one day and asserted themselves” and that nobody knows where they came from
if gaster WAS their father (or at least guardian) it would make sense if he was written out of existence, and by extension, sans and papyrus’ connection to the town, since they probably would’ve been living in his house.
also, since it can be assumed that sans worked in the lab at some point, it’s possible he was working WITH gaster, perhaps even when he fell.
and, y’know, seeing his own dad/relative/guardian be “scattered across time and space” might make you a bit aware of timelines and the quality of reality. might explain how he’s so aware of the player’s meta actions.
Also! Another thing i find interesting; we’re told that gaster “fell into his own creation” after we’re told he built the core.
I fully believe this to be a red herring.
“Falling” or “being in a fallen state” is analogous to death or being close to dying in undertale. If we go with the assumption that Gaster helped, or even started, the determination experiments we see Alphys working on, we could assume that he experimented on himself, melted from the determination exposure, like the amalgamates, and “fell.”
this could also explain how he “shattered across time and space,” as those with high levels of determination are able to mess with reality and timelines and stuff.
anywhizzle, this is such a great video!! i keep coming back to it to sate my gaster hyperfixation, my adhd thanks you
I absolutely love the idea of gaster having to babysit chara for all eternity
“CHILD GET OFF ME THIS INSTANT” “but doooooccccc I’m boooorrreeeeeeddd” “I SWEAR TO GOD IF YOU DONT GET OFF WE ARE GOING TO FIND OUT IF ITS POSSIBLE FOR YOU TO DIE T W I C E”
It would be interesting to see which of them have the most self destructive habits.
Boss baby but across time and space
My headcanon when Deltarune first came out was that Deltarune was essentially a mechanism for Gaster to babysit Chara and/or the Players and keep them contained. In Undertale player choice was everything, leading to whole routes depending on genocide or pacifism. Deltarune didn't have that, perhaps because Gaster saw Chara/Player's choices as dangerous.
I haven't been keeping up with Deltarune, though, so I'm not sure if this theory holds up.
@@ConnanTheCivilized Gaster was literally self destructive so I mean
"Gaster has to babysit his boss' kid for all eternity"
I love the idea that Gaster gets excited about what he and the player makes, and Chara just comes in and destroys it like a toddler drawing on their parent's papers
“It wouldn’t be very big shot of Gaster to make the epilepsy warning indecipherable”
One weird thing I want to point out.
"Man" is usually used to refer to the egg person, while "Him" is usually referred to Gaster, and the sprite is spr_mysteryman.
It is still, very possible that this is referring to Gaster as the 6s and the mus_smile file suggests. But, I just find it weird and wanted to point it out.
Note: Thank you for the comments for pointing it out, but gaster is referred as a man at the river person dialogue.
There is no confirmation that he's actually is talking about gaster though, since the dialogue is vague enough just enough to let toby put the most fucking mild-blowing 4d arg play into that line
Well, beware the *man* who speaks in hands.
@@ic0nic707 thats an expection but ill take it
YES YES! everytime I hear people talkin about gaster being egg-man, I always think "toby would foam at the mouth if he wasn't reffering to gaster with 'HIM'" now if it was ONE time or in a scenario were it would be weird to fit it (ala the river man) I would let it slide but the mann behind the tree has showed up twice now
What is the egg man is just the deltarune version of gaster? Or gaster is the undertale version of eggman. Something along those lines
I actually find it pretty creepy how Gasters theme is in so many seemingly unrelated pieces of music, like he's been entwined with the fabric of reality and is revealing himself through subtle changes in it.
Dam is you're pfp Pinewood builders logo ?
@@JcoleMc cryptomnesia
@@tux1468 No wonder you got no replies .
Well, he was supposed shattered *across* time and space, so it's entirely likely that parts of his being were woven into everything.
It’s even in the background of once apon a time
It’s everywhere
I can imagine Toby sitting at home looking at people's fanart and comics depicting Gaster as mystery man just laughing saying "hah! That's not even him lmao"
Playing Delatarune made me feel like he just took a bunch of fan stuff that was popular and mixed just enough that I get hit with all the info my mind blanked before. I literally went off on a 3 hour tangent about undertale multiverse after playing deltarune
@@androgenius_alisa I have a feeling that Toby definitely took some inspiration from Undertale AUs when making Deltarune an alternate timeline.
@@kingofcrap4414 Deltarune was conceived before Undertale so I sincerely doubt it
@@TorutheRedFox just because he thought of it doesn't mean he had all the details, I had the idea for a video for years once and the final product was vastly different from the concept
THIS LMFAOOO
"Too vague to prove anything, but notable enough to not dismiss it entirely."
^ Literally ALL of the undertale lore
Best comment on the video, and like all of the Gaster “lore” 🤔🤣
Theres one other Gaster allusion in the hometown that wasnt mentioned. Iirc, when you approach the mysterious doors at the bottom of the Town, it plays a specific sound while near them. If you take that sound in the files and speed it up by 666% in an audio program, it's actually just the Garbage Noise that plays in entry 17 and on Kris' phone. Whatever happened to Kris (and maybe Noelle if we consider her words from Snowgrave) at that door, it could have connections to Gaster. My current assumption is that Gaster has formed some kind of connection with Kris, like he did with Jevil and Spamton, which is why there have been multiple comments on how Kris has changed recently and why they hear the same noise on their phone that Spamton did.
Additionally, it turns out that the Wingdings font was co created by a man named Kris Holmes. So theres another connection to Kris and Gaster
Obligatory Kris uses they/them.
The intro sequence also supports this, though. The dude speaking to us at the beginning not only has the exact same speaking style as Gaster, but his typer value in the code is 666, just like it was in Undertale. So yeah it's almost certainly Gaster who intended for us to be put in an empty vessel, but was interrupted somehow.
i love how not only does "gaster" as an enemy cause you to lose money, basically mugging you when defeated, he also causes you to lose xp, meaning he somehow drains your experience when defeated.
Execution points
Napstablook does that
Thing is if i recall , Napstablook takes away 1 Experience Point... as in it will be pretty much the only time "Experience Point" is actually said.
All other times its the abbreviation (which is later shown to be EXECUTION Points) which implies theyre 2 separate things
Does that imply that Gaster can make you a better person? Lol.
WAIT A SEC IF BEATING UP GASTER IS GOOD DOES THAT MEAN HE'S THE ONLY TRULY EVIL CHARACTER WE'LL ENCOUNTER?? Gaster being a genuinely irredeemable character would be a great plot twist. He's associated with the Devil, so...
I love how Toby essentially implemented a hidden creepypasta character into his games lol
Its not like that, all the characters so far have not been personal, even though the odds are not something Im aware of!
@@Kurotheskeleton_YT Ok sorry but I have no idea what you mean or how the thing you said is related to the thing I said.
You sure got a point, i dont think creepy pasta though rather like an ARG
@@GodofDumps imagine if we can find during our walkthrough in the game piece by piece a link for downloading an archive of missing game files, and then we can install them in order to prevent crash in certain moments or a route we wish to avoid? That would be cool ARG trick.
@@GeorgeMarionerd not really if it is most likely our computer would get shut or something REALLY creepy like the amalgamation but gaster? He's more of a secret at the least
"now gaster has to babysit his boss' kid for all eternity" my god, that's by far the funniest thing i've heard this week 😭
“Jevil went fuckin’ coconuts” did it in for me lol
I thought I knew everything about Gaster. This video made me realise how similar he is to the humans who fell into the Underworld: falling into ever-expanding darkness you have no way out of. Blew my mind!
I love the line "Don't forget, I'm with you in the dark." In the UT/DR Pacifist route, that's comfort from the player's friends that they are being told. It could be Sans, Susie, Asgore, Ralsei, etc. In the Genocide/Weird route, though, it's a threat. From the player to Frisk/Kris.
true
maybe it's gaster. he's with you in the dark. the dark, darker, yet darker, dark.
@@NetheriteMiner too dark bro
@@Lol-sv1zy GAST
GASTER
YET GASTER
THE GASTNESS KEEPS GROWING
pipis -> 🔵 route
“Gaster has to babysit his boss’ kid for all eternity” I love that
Sounds like a nice sitcom
Lmao
someone has to make comics out of that-
@@lisandramariaurbano8413 I saw some dubs of comics with similar idea, but can't find it again. Remember that they had an gasterblaster's prototype 0.2 or floof
Small brain: Gaster in Deltarune is an Undertale reference
Big brain: Gaster in Undertale is a retroactive Deltarune reference
Not retroactive at all, I think... Toby's said in the past he's been working on deltarune since before undertale was ever a thing, so he probably always intended for it to tie into deltarune!
@@MirrorHall_Clay That's what I mean by retroactive, yeah
Gaster was a part of Deltarune's story before Undertale was ever concieved
I do wanna say that I still think that Undertale (conceptually) came into existence before Deltarune, or at the very least they started being conceptualized around the same time
Just based on Toby’s “Found an old college notebook” twitter post where Undertale was in a very early conceptual stage and he was just making the outlines for the first battle system and even mentions the early concept for the Toriel fight before the characters of the game were even fully realized
I just find it weird that that would happen after Deltarune had already supposedly been conceptualized enough to make Gaster into a character
I think that Gaster is Grandpa Semi, because “semi” also calls to mind “semicolon,” and you could look at the mystery man sprite’s eyes as being a slightly embellished semicolon. It also ties into the font lore of skeletons and Gaster, as they focus on the format of the written word when they speak.
I’m slightly confused as to why the song grandpa semi has mettaton’s motif in it though
@@increbidel4685 Well, it could be meant to tie Mettaton to Grandpa Semi, and a connection between MTT and Gaster would make sense, since Gaster was the royal scientist and created the CORE from which Alphys' creations (such as Mettaton) draw their power.
18:06 "I will say that gaster seems to have a real talent for suddenly disappearing from existence"
I know this isn't meant to be taken at face value, but I can't stop giggling over the idea that Gaster was actually just helping Spamton but then suddenly disappeared from existence mid conversation.
G: All you need to do i-
(Peaces out)
S: Do what? Do what?!
/j of course
@@KitTheAnkafolk So G = Gaster and S = Spamton, correct?
G: "Alright so then you wear this sui- ah fuck not again.." *disappears*
@@ihaveagun3183
Yes
"Hey Spam, Liaten well, I dont have much time left The secret to achieve Heaven is-"
Let's not forget Gaster's (possible) association with eggs, with the mysterious "man behind the tree"
Now let's combine that with the royal scientist's great fall, and being shattered across time and space, never to become whole again.
And now we arrive at the conclusion that Gaster is in fact...
Humpty Dumpty
That's right I think Gaster is Humpty Dumpty and you can't convince me otherwise.
He cant move or go anywhere though
Who wants to make a parody of the nursery rhyme with Dr gaster!
This guy actually has a point
He does look like a cracked egg
Did he also became Flumpty after shattered across space and time?
i NEED a story where gaster and chara go around AU's in a ''grumpy uncle and adopted child'' story
no, never them together....leave this innocent man with his innocent kids, not that demon who has destroyed more then hope and love
that's basically almost like core!frisk and gaster
@@Kurotheskeleton_YT we don't know if the chara that is going around AU's is a genocide route one or a pacifist one
Instead of learning to distance themself with us, Chara will learn how to be a scientist, yay ! Mad scientist ? Unethical mad scientist ? Who knows !
@@simplymax1337 yeah hopefully its funny narrator chara and not genocide demon chara
I will forever subscribe to the Handplates interpretation, purely because it is so incredibly well written and at no point goes hard enough against canon that it could be ruled out. Zarla has my support in their cannon.
REAL HANDPLATES IS THE BEST
Handplates Gaster is such a good interpretation, I love it.
the what
@@parallax256 Ooh! Handplates is a fan comic by Zarla on DeviantArt. It just wrapped up last year. It's an interesting interpretation of the lore and I've been a huge fan for ages.
@@asherhockersmith8271 I think I'll check it out, thanks! It's not edgy or cringeworthy is it? It's always a risk with these things.
As a very avid writer who enjoys foreshadowing in the most obscure of ways, I am 100% convinced Gaster was always planned to be a big part of Deltarune, and any blatantly obvious Gaster insert into Undertale (like the fun value 66 door) was just Toby deciding to play the super long con and foreshadow 10 odd years in advance.
I'm pretty sure (although my memory could be playing tricks on me) that I heard somewhere that deltarune was a game idea that he got from a dream, before developing the game undertale and that deltarune was always going to be the [BIGGER] game. I mean, right now there seems to be 7 chapters planned, and the first and second combined are about the same length as an average undertale playthrough...so deltarune will certainly become significantly longer once its finally completed.
The fact that Undertale is legitimately almost 10 years old is fucking with me
@@youngjellyfish8694 Yes deltarune was/the story was made before Undertale. It was updated though because Undertale and it was obvious Toby would change things to include things from it.
According to Toby fox, he’s been planning deltarune long before undertale and even claimed he was making deltarune for the purpose of fulfilling a video game ending he saw in a dream. Though sometimes I feel like he just added gaster to mess around with players. Like the missing piece of the puzzle that can never be found and frustrate the player to no end!
Deltarune is a game that's a mix of an original game concept and a game that evolved from it (UT). That game never had a single room made for it, but it was a game that had an ending Toby saw on a 2011 fever dream, using characters from a deck of cards made by a tumblr user. A lot of the script was written by august 2012. :D
I feel something that’s been kinda lost in the fandom hyperfixation, is the fact that Gaster is legit scary
For one, Mystery Man’s sprite is very spooky, and Gasters theme is also very ominous
And like, imagine finding all of this stuff for the first time
Toby did really well making Gaster and his entire story, and I just want to respect that
He didn't stop being scary.
I was terrified of him back in 2016-17 when I was into undertale. I couldn’t sleep after I saw videos with him haha.
Which is exactly why I love when fan projects portray him in a more sinister way. For example, cybo's Deltarune fan tracks on a hypothetical Gaster boss fight.
Also his theme is quite similar to Michael Myers theme from Halloween, now that I think about it.
I've seen some artists use an Analog Horror aesthetic to depict Gaster, and I feel it's honestly very fitting.
Snowdin Town's theme in Undertale also has the "Don't Forget" leitmotif in it. Which is fitting since that's where Sans' lab with the Don't Forget photo is located.
Bonetrousle was originally meant to be Deltarune's battle theme before it was repurposed for Undertale, so it makes sense that Toby would've written a lot of these themes and melodies before Undertale came out.
Also the Bunker in town plays the entry 17 noise when sped up by 666%
Edit: Also also, Queen says that Noelle needs to "close her eyes and sleep away into a darker darker dream" in the snowgrave route, and Gaster's theme is 100% present in the song playing during the hospital scene where Noelle is talking to herself.
Edit2: In the ch 3-5 teaser songs, Toby put the Snowdin Townin motif in Deltarune's new hometown theme
What
Dont forget isnt in snowdin
And toby said bonetrousle was actually going to be UNDERTALE'S battle theme, not deltarune's, but regardless, yes, deltarune was confirmed to be thought of long before undertale finished development
@LeedleLel I just looked up the interview to be sure, and yes, it was originally supposed to be for Deltarune or whatever Deltarune was before he made Undertale.
Also if you listen to Snowdin Town's theme, you can here Don't Forget at 0:33
@@NRobbi42 ok ill admit it sounds like it but it definitely doesnt use the same notes, but i mean, who knows ig lol
Anyways could you link or quote the interview?
@@leedlelel2373 Links aren't working😔
Read the description
They know about the bunker sound
Don’t forget about that bunker in Deltarune where if you higher the pitch of the noise that plays near it it plays the garbage noise
Also jevil and spamton give you shadow crystals that are described as pieces of glass and in Undertale they say he shattered across time and space so glass shatters and they could be literal pieces of gaster
i actually love gasters theme being everywhere directly relates to him being "spread across time and space" he's LITERALLY been spread everywhere to the point of weaseling his way into all the music
i like
There's is a SONG ABOUT HIM BEING SHATTERED
@@NormalExploiter What the frick is this kid talking about? You look like you confused the concepts of "space" and "place," and know jack shjt about consciousness.
@@marchdarkenotp3346 epic 10/10 he edited it so that you look like a dumbass
@@marchdarkenotp3346 What happened here? Their comment is edited and its seemed to be about something different going off your reply.
You forgot the door at the bottom of Kris' HomeTown in Deltarune. It's a misterious door that "won't open". When you get close to the door, you can hear very, very, very, but I mean, VERY slowed down version of the garbage noise.
Very, very interesting isn't it?
I think the sound of entry seventeen and stuff is like canonically what his voice sounds like, Because if it’s unintelligible when you read it why should you understand it verbally??? So what if gasters like just yelling into the phone when kris calls in the dark world: “OH THANK GOD PLEASE HELP ME IM STUCK IN THE FU- wh- did they just HANG UP!?”
@@distantmaniacallaughter8690 that is the only theory
i can imagine kris just using the phone and gaster just screaming and then kris hangs up
That is
Very,
Very
Interesting
@@thesithofearth3617 I feel like that phrase will haunt me for existence
@@Eris.s oh same dude
Frankly, the best way of explaining all the Gaster stuff I've seen. Not trying to lean into the creepy aspects in an over the top way, just presenting the facts and theories in an informative and fun manner.
Thanks for the great work!
NO!! NO!!! NE-O!!! HOLY [Congadero] DID YOU LOSE YOUR [Mind]????!!!! JUST BECAUSE THE [SCawy nOiSE] OF ENTRY [17] IS [Signal Disconnected] DOESN'T MEAN ASS[Ter] is exist in Deltafart!! GET THAT THROUGH YOUR [Beautiful Head], YOU LITTLE [Worm]!!
@@alexanderthemidI What?
@@FlintWithSteel they're making fun of all the people who think that the Gaster stuff in Deltarune is meaningless while also acting like Spamton
@@reigndoesthings actually that's the opposite of what I'm doing
@@alexanderthemidI so you don’t think gaster is in deltarune?
13:15 gaster wants to show you his pokemkn card collection.
Gaster fascinates me because it seems as though he's everywhere and nowhere. Like a quark, or a gluon, he exists and he's all around us, yet he's almost impossible to see or measure. He passes right through the world, almost never interacting with it in any way that we can see.
It makes me wonder whether Toby might have been reading about particle physics when he came up with Gaster and the broader idea of Deltarune.
Quarks and gluons aren’t examples of particles that barely interact though?
Like, quarks interact via the strong force so much that you can’t get one by itself.
Wouldn’t a better analogy be a neutrino?
It's almost as if he's the Deltarune game code itself, since Deltarune could be the "experiment" that went wrong and since he got shattered across time and space. Especially since there's an implication of connection with the whole "Darkness, Dark World" thing, plus the intro of the game and the cryptic tweets.
Or Gaster could also be some sort of third-party character that's from a different world, like the player interacting with the Deltarune. The only difference is that we, the players, are completely separate beings from the games. Gaster's existence comes from the games.
It reminds me of a relationship between the "player" and the "narrator/game".
In a way, the player and Gaster are similar since they can make the Deltarune characters "aware," or basically give them existential crises.
An example would be our relationship with Noelle in the Snowgrave route and (based on other theories) Gaster's hinted involvement with Spamton or Jevil.
Idk who knows? So far there's been 2 chapters, so hopefully in chapter 3 things start to line up and make sense.
Funny you say that, because Sans and Papyrus have a quantum physics book in their house.
I think he may’ve gotten a lil inspired by Earthbound and it’s last boss fight with a thing known as Giygas too
utgt
Also, the Z's that appear when Sans falls asleep in his battle in the genocide run are in the Aster font. It doesn't appear anywhere else in the game but there. That's why I find it so ridiculous that people make grand theories of what will happen but leave Sans out entirely. He's clearly connected.
Wth do you mean literally everyone brings up the overrated skeleton when talking about g man but like, okay lol
Also the z's in his fight were analyzed by nochocolate on tumblr and they arent really in the aster font
Oh yeah they appear in Chapter 2 as well.
it's not the aster font
it looks vaguely like it, but so can thousands of other fonts. if it was Aster specifically, it would be an identical match. but it's not.
it's just a stylised Z that was drawn manually, then reused. it means nothing.
the games do the same with SFX; Susie's Rude Buster spell makes the same sound effect as when Jevil throws scythes down at the heroes in his intro cutscene. does that have any meaning? NO IT DOESN'T.
@@randomcatdude It's a serif font though. Sans' whole thing is being sans serif. The fact that the font even bears a passing resemblance to Aster is meaningful
@@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep there are so many other serif fonts that'd also have a "passing resemblance", aster is only being fixated on due to its one-letter difference from Gaster.
it just feels so vague, and it's literally a single letter.
considering Gaster was "split apart time and space" it makes a weird amount of sense that his very simple 4 note theme could be vaguely heard in every other theme
And with notes missing occasionally!
I know who Gaster is but I love this video so much. Feels like old school theorising where we're grasping at the very little we have and it's got such a mysterious vibe, I don't need answers I just need clear and concise clues (fnaf I'm looking at you). Anyway thanks for this video even though it's kinda old, it's sort of a comfort video to me learning about our possible skeleton possible threat possibly doesn't even show up guy.
I'm surprised you didn't mention the man behind the tree that gives you eggs (egg in wingdings is left forward forward, the move that knights perform in chess)
There's no real connection to Gaster there, other than being as unexplained as Gaster itself
Well, the entirety of Gaster is just theories anyway
omg
@@rompevuevitos222 it's not about Gaster so much as a connection to draw. Wingdings are how Gaster likes to speak, and the egg-giver is out of bounds, like how Gaster is broken out of the bounds of the game. So trying Wingdings on egg gives the hands showing the direction a Knight moves in Chess, and remember, Gaster is often believed to be "The Man Who Speaks In Hands"
@@uncroppedsoop yeah and the track it sounds in that room contains gaster's theme leitmotif aswell so it's pretty much implied
this can sound stupid but i've noticed that gaster's head looks like a egg and that man gives you a egg so-
( don't hate on me i said this as a joke )
I love the idea that eventually once Toby actually shows Gaster, it’ll just be a completely different design than what the fandom has given him
xd everyone would be like :0
It would be funny if that was just some guy.
better fuckin not be cuz that'd be really lame
@@flaco3462 seems like something toby would totally do tho
@@paradoxtatorstudios9681 he doesn't subvert shit for the sake of subverting it you fuck
especially for something that's been being built up for so long
Another thing that connects the mistery man sprite to Gaster:
When you interact with him a sound effect is played and he disappears, if you take that sound effect, change the speed by 666% (don't remember if it's sped up or slowed down) and loop it, it sounds like Gaster's theme
That kinda makes it more likely that hes just a follower since a couple of other followers use the disappear sound
@@GoogleAccount-ox6em to be fair, one of the followers that disappear with the sound effect says that he's holding a piece of Gaster in his hand before completely disappearing. And for a while that followers holding the piece of gaster and the mystery man were the only times in the entire game you heard the disappearing sound effect.
Thank you, I am now terrified :D
i know all the context to this already but the infliction in your voice is the "PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE LISTEN TO MY HYPERFIXATION IM NOT CRAZY RAHHHHHHHHHH"
Imagine if it was completely intentional to have gaster’s theme everywhere to make it feel like he was truly everywhere
bro the poor man got shattered everywhere, he IS everywhere
Imagine taking a shower and a piece of Gaster is just watching you the whole time.
@@pizzweak580 who's to say he isn't =)
I've made music for ages and played games all my life, and I can safely say; if Toby intended even that microscopic level of subtlety to Gaster's character and influence on the world, to make the other soundtrack pieces work as perfectly well as they do while simultaneously, intentionally, hinting at Gaster's theme... then he is the undisputed greatest mind video games have to offer, and someone I would single out as the most likely living human to ever successfully do a Kamehameha.
''After all it is very rude to talk about someone whos allways listening''
Since we have no concrete evidence of what Gaster looks like and him being shattered across space and time, I believe both the mystery sprites in the hidden rooms are parts of Gaster. The mystery man sprite is his main body, and the wispy white sprite is his flowing luxurious hair after a few years in the void with no shampoo.
I was thinking that the "wispy white sprite" was a melted version of Gaster, since.. y'know, he fell into the CORE and all.
a flowing luxurious hair after a few years in the void with no shampoo.
Thats hilarious
This comment was so good, I screenshot it for future laughs
The fact that if that were the case a joke about him having no shampoo would totally be a joke the game would make
7:07 to be fair assuming that this call is Gaster related by the G alone might have been a stretch a few years ago, but now with the retrospective that Gaster is often associated with phone calls I don't think it's too outlandish of an idea.
or it could just, y'know... Spamton *G.* Spamton
@@simplymax1337 The "G" in Spamton G Spamton stands for Spamton. If you ask him why he starts throwing pipis at you
@@simplymax1337 spamton couldn't possibly exist in the Undertale world because he's a darkner
@@pablopereyra7126 So... Spamton Spamton Spamton?
Theory that that phone call was just SPAMTON trying to call for Gaster.
that’s pretty outlandish tho
a favorite theory of mine that I can't remember if I came up with or not: when gaster was scattered throughout time and space, you can see him everywhere, in every town and around every person... Dr. Wing Ding Aster was splintered into countless asterisks.
* He's right there.
* At the beginning of almost every line of dialog every character speaks.
* He's always been there.
* He always will be.
* Silently watching, reading your words, your thoughts.
Well, Papyrus doesn't use asterisks
@@NoraNekos7 toby said the reason he doesnt is because the asterisks in the papyrus font were too small. if that changes anything
@@theReincarnate ah yeah, right. That does change things
No one seems to have mentioned this so...
There are a few strings of failsafe text that happen in Deltarune if the game somehow loads a conversation without assigned dialogue. One of these is very very interesting to say the least.
Is that a cut on your face, or part of your eye?
The gash weaves down as if you cry.
The pain itself is reason why.
This seems to be referencing the mystery man sprite from Undertale. While this alone could be dismissed as a coincidence, the second failsafe text string leads me to believe that this may be confirmation for mysteryman being indeed, Gaster.
You can't read these symbols...
Or maybe it's the handwriting.
Now this one seems way more suspicious, because it seemingly references the WingDings font that Gaster is associated with. Again, no direct confirmation, but it's still something worth considering.
that's literally the only proof we have about Mystery Man being Gaster, aside from the 6s
@@PLSLetMeUseEmax64OnANewChannel
His disapearing sound is a distorted, and sped up gaster's theme
It simultaneously references Gaster... and the paper that Sans has in the mystery machine room in Undertale. Lots of people attribute "bad handwriting" to Alphys bc her handwriting is "chickenscratch" common amongst doctors.
What if Alphys writes notes in Wingdings? And people just assume it's bad writing? Because that second line of text almost makes it sound like bad writing and Wingdings is the same thing.
also Jevils and Seams designs are very similar to the mistery man sprite as they have the distorted mouth and the cuts in the eyes (as well as Rouxls Kaard, but im still confused if Toby was making fun of us when designing RK)
“Hand” “writing” actually perfectly describes the man who speaks in hands.
something i literally didn't think of until a few days back, mettaton's quiz show "fight" has the question of who alphys has a crush on, and if the player chooses nothing, mettaton mentions that alphys seems to believe that there's someone outside their reality that is watching her. while mettaton completely combats it and mocks alphys in-game, and while the argument could be made that the vagueness is in reference to the player themselves, it could also be that alphys knows and/or believes gaster to still be out there and his presence to still be alive, and that she has/had feelings for him. it makes sense given that they're connected through their job, and that it's implied that sans, alphys, and gaster were working on things together. plus, alphys is confirmed to have a crush on asgore, so we know she is attracted to men, and that it's possible she had come into contact and known asgore prior to working under him as the royal scientist. just a thing i've noticed recently that i wanted to mention! gaster's presence is so intriguing and i can't wait to see what the future has in store for deltarune, both with possible ties to gaster as a character, and just as its own series!
So... wjat ypu say is...
Alphys canonically could be saying "HE MIGHT NOT BE REAL, BUT MY FEELINGS FOR HIN ARE!!"
@@MarcyTheKindaCoolWizard alphys voice: it's not a phase asgore he really likes me!!! >:/
i think the most damning evidence is that, of all fucking people ALPHYS has a line in the code as a comment around the crush question section. if that isn't proof she worked with the funny gaster breaks into the code to leave cryptic notes and details man i dont know what is.
alphys is exactly the kind of character to believe some kind of conspiracy like Gaster still existing outside reality
I think that's more of a play on Alphys being a hardcore anime fan.
There's this joke where legitimate hardcore weebs believe that their anime crush exists in another universe and such.
Even that is pretty fitting for Alphys.
A couple of other connections you didn't mention:
-Sans and Papyrus are specifically mentioned to have randomly appeared in the underground, which makes no sense given our understanding of how monsters ended up there in the first place. This could mean they were either created (presumably by Gaster, either intentionally or as a result of him being shattered across time and space) or that they came from another universe, like Deltarune (but maybe not Deltarune specifically). Sans even mentions giving up on "going back" as if the world he is in is not his home.
-Sans' dialogue during his fight in the genocide route, his secret lab behind the house, his quantum physics book and his connection to Alphys imply that he was some kind of scientist at some point (he even hints that he knows about the amalgamates before you go into the true lab). Gaster was ALSO a royal scientist, so they may have worked together and whatever accident destroyed Gaster may explain Sans' strange abilities like teleporting and having knowledge of resets, LV, etc.
holy fuck and that would explain why they both have the gaster blaster in a more intuitive way too...
Wait, when did Sans mentioned he know about amalgamates? _oh no my memories getting crappy-_
@@ciffet_muffin I believe it’s if you call Papyrus outside the true lab, Papyrus will say something about Alphys having dog food even though there aren’t any dogs in there and Sans will comment something like “I wouldn’t be so sure about that”
@@GippyHappy Oohhh! That part, now i remember
I think that the Sans in Undertale is probably the same one from Delta. I think at some point in Deltarune's story, Sans will somehow be banished to a different dimension, that being Undertale's. The reason I think this is because Sans is the ONLY character to look exactly the same in both Undertale and Deltarune. Every other character has some minor change in appearance EXCEPT for him. His house looks exactly the same. His theme song is the only song that appears in both games unchanged. Also in his bunker, there's a drawing of three people with the words "DONT FORGET" written on it. This is clearly a direct reference to Deltarune, and I think the three people are probably Ralsei, Susie, and Kris. This isn't a perfect theory, it definitely has some flaws, but it's the one that makes the most sense imo.
“Ridiculously talented Musician And Leit Motif Enthusiast Toby Fox” is one of the best description of him and his work I’ve ever heard. 23:55
One point for Gaster's Theme, it appears very prominently at the end of a "kill everyone" run in Chapter 2 when visiting Noelle and Rudy at the hospital.
It's not hidden at all, very very interesting.
"Very very interesting"
"VERY
VERY
INTERESTING"
Very very interesting.
@@catalyst_8759
VERY
VERY
INTERESTING
HOLY SHIT YOU'RE RIGHT
I didn't even notice it at all until you pointed it out.
Im very curious how Toby is gonna finish this character, if at all. He's been building up it's mystery and intrigue while still giving us enough crumbs to satisfy. Dr. W.D. Gaster's conclusion could be incredibly satisfying, answering the most major questions about him while still leaving his mysterys intact, or it could be very much not that. It's a fine line to cross, but I think Toby can tightrope it.
I'm incredibly surprised this barely mentioned the "What do you two think?" line. This was what really confirmed in a ton of people's heads that Gaster, Papyrus and Sans were related in some way since they made the most sense in a lot of ways to be who he was talking to. Even if you don't think the "you two" he's asking were Sans and Papyrus then it becomes a huge mystery to figure out, because obviously it means Gaster had some sort of close relationship to 2 characters we most likely know about
The concept art at the end of this video confirmed it imo. Since I'm fully convinced the concept of gaster was based on Toby's character concept that was removed from the story. You know, literally made to be an Undertale where everything was the same, but semi wasn't there. Just like how goners describe gaster
I always thought the "two" were Sans and Alphys, because they seem to be the ones who are hiding most things. Sans seems to have a secret connection to science, considering his secret workshop in the back of his house. Also he and Alphys are acquaintances and they appear to be close enough for Alphys to predict what Sans is about to say at one point, not only that, but Sans also hints in one of the phone calls that he knows exactly what's in the True lab. The strange thing is, neither Papyrus or Undyne seem to know how their friendship came to be, and Alphys gets really nervious when asked about it, meaning their connection has to be kept secret. All of this led me to believe the two were working together at some point, maybe with Dr. Gaster too, in some kind of proyect, a proyect they absolutely can't talk about.
@@butterspike680 project not proyect you chicken nugget
Oh yeah I didn't even think of that. I thought it was Gaster being meta and talking to Chara and yourself the gamer
Honestly I like to think that Gaster and sans (and papyrus) are connected in some way. And since gaster was shattered across time and space I like to think that *somehow* Gaster is in deltarune but also that bc of that sans and papyrus KNOW about undertale and yourself, the player. I don't even know why I think that and it's prolly not true but I thunk it would be fun if it were lol
I’ve always been a fan of undertale, but never was interested in the fandom as a whole and looked down on it a bit (mostly because I was too old for it and they were a bit rabid back in the day) so when you mentioned fandom, I was more then a little worried this video would be difficult to watch for people not into the culture. However, I was pleasantly surprised that the video is very friendly to people out of the loop and enjoyable to watch. Good job on the intro parody by the way, hearing that specific theme (was it called “fallen down”?) was a nostalgia trip.
He "fell into his creation." I love this line. Let me ramble a bit.
The song during the character creator in Deltarune Chapter 1 -- or rather, SURVEY PROGRAM -- is "Another Him," and you're making what's explicitly called a "creation."
Our creation.
And after it's discarded, the narrator explicitly tells you that you cannot choose what you are, and tells you your name.
But we never hear the end of that sentence. We never hear our name. It fades to white, and Toriel immediately cuts in, waking Kris for school.
The end of the narrator's sentence is left open, but the implication is there. But Kris... isn't just one person. The endings of both chapters make it rather clear there's a duality.
A creation. A survey. One person. Two beings.
"What do you two think?"
I bet all the money in my pockets that if we hear that question again, the only recipient will be Kris.
The fact that this makes so much sense is scary.
It’d be a great segue to Gaster explaining that he knows about the player.
how much money is in your pockets?
@@sandiegovanilla8625 At least three.
@@BornFlunky is that dollars or cents?
The first time one of my friends played Undertale they got Dr. Gaster‘s room to appear and thought to themselves
“oh that’s an odd place to have a door I’ll just come back to this later”
then they came back later and the door was gone lol
I'm so glad I wasn't drinking any water when I read that fdskjdsjsdkf
they got a super rare chance event thats like 1/60000 (don’t @ me) AND THEY DIDN’T EVEN LOOK INSIDE
I got Clam Girl on my first run, until 2017, I thought she was always there
@@Data-Expungeded MWAHAHAHAHA I DID @ YOU
I got the Gaster room on my first playthrough. I was so confused by what I had just seen, and didn't realize the significance of it at ALL.
the intro to deltarune does actually reference the 'VERY VERY INTERESTING' line. if you type susie's name into one of the name entry things (don't remember if it's the vessel or player, though) the voice will say "YOU ARE ABOUT TO MEET SOMEONE VERY VERY WONDERFUL"
Double reference to the clam girl in the switch version of Undertale who said you’ll meet “Suzy” very soon
does it say anything for ralsei?
@@oof8493 I dont think so, but its supposed to say the same thing as above for kris and noelle
@@arandomqueerfanpeep7655 oh ok
thats a reference to the clam shell in undertale
23:15
if you've ever played gaster's theme on a piano, and have played that part of jevils theme, you realize that really is, as andrew said "three gaster motifs in a trenchcoat"
fr? :0
Remember that Gaster was split into space in time, so that means he probably was split into different timelines as well, and Sans is (usually) always interacting with the player instead of the character (looks at you, breaks the 4th wall sometimes) meaning that he may be trying to find Gaster through the multiverses while also making sure nothing “bad” happens to those respective timelines due to an immense amount of caringness. Best theory I got that makes the most sense tbh.
When they mention the Gaster's motif in Undertale songs, they should have said "in the description will be a playlist with all the songs for the possible Gaster's motif" and then when you go into the description it's just the entire Undertale soundtrack
@Doctor w.d gaster You could say that it's 'Very, Very Interesting'
Gaster theme in long elevator?!?!??
One important thing you forgot:
In chapter 1 dark world, there is a one-time secret room you can enter where a man hidden behind a tree gives you an egg. You can put this egg into Asgores fridge in the overworld permanently and see it duplicated in there afterwards in the real world.
In chapter 2 you can enter a similiar secret room in the cyber dark world where you can get another egg by the man hidden behind the tree. You can put this one in the egg basket in Sans' store.
You can do this in any run and the secret room theme sounds similiar to Gaster's theme.
Here is the real kicker:
"egg" in wingdings font is "finger pointing left", "finger pointing up" and another "finger pointing up".
A *Knight in Chess* can move sideways once and forward twice.
so tems egg is the knight
Ok that could be a thing but it could also be an egg as in "easter egg"
Also the green soul in Undertale was the *sixth* human to fall into the Underground and heals you with *eggs* in the Omega/Photoshop Flowey fight
That's genuinely kinda sus huh
WHAT
THE
FUCK
i would never forget heats flamesman's name, i literally out loud said "wtf no its heats flamesman" when 'hots fireguy' was mentioned
honestly i think that gaster's experiment spoken of in entry 17 is about trying to create a dark world/fountain. and if it is, him shattering across time and space from falling into a dark fountain he created would make sense with not only the man behind the tree in deltarune, but how he's associated with darkness and how he's potentially influencing darkners like jevil and spamton
i wonder why gaster wants go give kris an egg then nope out of reality
@@sydney_pepper okay here's this egg, go-
*phases out of reality*
@@sydney_pepper People put pieces together and came to the conclusion that he's giving Kris the eggs not just as a funny way to have legitimate Easter eggs, but also to reference the "Knight".
EGG (all caps) in Wingdings has this pattern, I'm using emojis to represent it: 👈☝️☝️
Left, up, up. An exact move that a Knight on a chess board would make. Next, you've got one of the characters from chapter 1, one of the Pawn characters from the Great Board, directly calling Kris "Horsey" instead of his actual name, yet again, representative of a Knight on a chess board.
You can take these eggs and put them in seemingly nonsensical locations for no reason. You can put the chapter 1 egg inside of Asgore's fridge and end up with two eggs in there somehow, and then the chapter 2 egg inside of the egg basket in Sans', multiplying them to be "a considerably larger amount".
@@AoBaiGaming so basically... multiplying fountains from the Knight?
The 6 recurring isn’t just because its an “evil number” I think it is because it is the number that most closely represents his letter G, G and 6 are meant to be associated with him
great awesome theory besides uh one lil fact:
G is the 7th letter of the alphabet.
true though (I haven't finished the vid maybe it was mentioned) "666" occurs at least a couple times in the code and stuff related to gaster so it's a wink from toby
Or both
@@aplenope they never said G was the 6th letter of the alphabet. Theye said G resembles the number 6.
@@Rickfernello ah
I was there in 2015-16, i saw all this gaster lore unfold after my very eyes, yet i still sat and watched a 20 minute video of mostly stuff that i already knew because of the sheer enjoyment i get from seeing people taking coverage on topics like these. Great video, i genuinely wonder why i didn't comment when i first saw this last year
Same here man. Remember how intense the underminers reddit was.
a lot of us were there during the gaster theory heyday.
I played UT almost right after it came out, but left the fandom due to being an edgy teenager and viewing the fans as cringe... then DR sucked me back in and spat out my pride, and now even later I'm finally doing the research I should've done all those years ago!
Exactly 🥹🥹🥹
Could "Gaster" be a pormantaeu of "ghast" meaning ghost, and "aster" the font? It would kinda make sense considering Gaster's etherial presence in the world.
"Does Gaster mug you?"
The research grants aren't cutting it anymore now that he no longer exists.
Can't get paid if you _'die'_
Damn that’s good.
I’m just imagining goopster in his gray room surrounded by gold simply because well if HE can’t go and buy tea why should anyone ELSE
Why of course he mugs you he needs his funding to reform after all
Honestly I’d forgotten all the lore behind Gaster and his complete significance to the story after 5 years, glad you made this, really needed this with how invested I am in Deltarune
One thing I noticed a long time ago that no one seems to talk about is the OTHER songs in the secret soundest in undertale, happy town, meat factory, and trouble dingle. First off, no matter what direction you press, they will scroll through the 4 songs in the sound test in the same order regardless; happy town > meat factory > trouble dingle > gasters theme. Once you scroll to the next song, you have to to cycle through the remaining songs in line to get back to the one you were on. At least, it does that until you start playing gasters theme. After that, you can scroll through them in either direction. However, now you can’t deactivate gasters theme or activate any of the others.
It’s permanently stuck in one state, while still allowing you to view others, but never taking part in them.
Who does that remind you of?
Side note: it’s also worth noting that the names could very well be parallels to the actual events that led to gasters disappearance; first, he lived in a happy town. Then, he fell into his creation, a sort of “meat factory” (alternatively, the meat factory could be referring to his experiments). After that, the trouble dingle represents his disappearance, and then finally his transformation into Gaster, able to view any state in time or dimensions but never able to interact with them.
Sorry that was a lot. I hope at least some of what I said made some sense, lol.
Do not even touch the like button
If you have touched it , touch it again
It shall stay at 66
Stuck in that state as in genocide?
@@thedistinguished5255 i think they mean, can't come back to reality
I mean, the job of a meat factory is to take living creatures and break them down into pieces, so maybe it's comparing Gaster falling into the Core and being shattered to an animal being butchered and cut up into pieces? OK, so that's a bit of a reach, but it kind of almost works, at least thematically.
Deltarune is turning out to be such a beautiful game as the chapters release when they can be released. Updates are given at times and it's not rushed. When the next chapter does come out and hype has basically died, the gameplay, music, everything really, brings the community swinging back to the game and everything just jamming out.
6:06 The fun part about this is that people at some point pointed out that this is NOT a prank call. If one says no, he gives a nonjoke-answer that makes it sound like it's an important matter to get the fridge back running. The only room in these games that have important fridges is the fridgeroom in the true lab. Which coincidentially, he is very much implied to have helped with at some point.
6:26 Major note here: Even tho Goner Kid is not a Gaster Follower, they are very much key to the goner lore and what the plan could have been at the start of Deltarune. The playerentity that is supposed to represent us travels to the world of Deltarune and connects with Gaster to create a goner body(The creator is actually called the Goner Maker, funny name), but why? Why didn't we just take a poor person like Kris without being forced to? Well, Goner Kid has a line if they are talked to with debug-mode enabled. "Yo! You're a ??? too, right?" Debug mode allows all sorts of nonsense, but the most relevant parts for this train of thought are: Teleport to any room, all goners are enabled at the same time and we can arbitrarily set the murderlevel for the genocide route(Which argubly is traveling to a slightly diffrent universe). So they mistake Frisk for a Goner because they presumably have similar abilities at that point. Suddenly the opening of deltarune makes perfect sense. For whatever goal the player is traveling to deltarune, a goner body would be amazing to have. Travel the map in seconds at will, spot and identify anyone who is suspicious and sidestep any potential issue.
13:44 That's not technically true. When calling ourselves either "Kris", "Susie" or "Noelle", he will say that we are about to meet someone "very very wonderful". Something fun is that the Voice also doesn't only appear here and in the gameover-screen, but also the main menu when there isn't any clear data of the chapter. When one erases a savefile, he says "IT WAS AS IF IT WAS NEVER THERE AT ALL.", which ties into the idea of stuff just vanishing without a trace.
25:15 Technically wrong. In the major expositiondump in new home, three dummies appear to tell a segment of the story. I agree with the idea, but I like to be nitpicky.
25:36 That was actually patched back in, just slightly renamed to look less suspicious I guess. Some people say that the number 999 is associated with this character, but I can't really find a source for that, so take that with a grain of salt. Why 999 is relevant is that there is unused content in Deltarune using the Typervalue 999. This unused text doesn't actually contain any relevant info, it's just an introduction to Toriel trying to wake Kris up. But the fact that it even exists like that is very interessting.
On "another him", Gaster is never actually reffered to as "him", only his theme is. So I'd say the name is actually directly referencing that. It's another version of the theme called him.
There's more about Sans and the True Lab and Gaster's creations and even the eggs to mention, but it feels sorta offtopic compared to the corethematic of Gaster. Well, except that it's sorta implied that some parts of him did become eggs for some reason.
on the subject of 999 - chara actually seems to be the one associated with the number 9. it's seen very frequently as the damage when you one-hit bosses in genocide, the stats chara mentions in the end of genocide all max out at values of 999, the locket and real knife are def/atk 99 respectively, the damage chara does to the game window at the very end is a ton of 9's, unique narration comes up if you talk to asgore 9 times in his battle ("all you can do is FIGHT"), sans is fought at LV 19, etc.
chara seems to be related to deltarune somehow, considering they're probably the one who discarded your vessel, based on the japanese translation. another interesting thing to note is that chara-like text appears in undertale's files - this was added in the january 2016 update: "i see. you have made yourself completely clear. i, your humble servant, shall follow you to the utmost." (this is especially chara-like because chara calls you a partner and states that they followed your "guidance.") if chara can speak in the files, and destroy the game window, then they could definitely be an ever-present force like gaster is.
not to mention, chara sure does like to reiterate that your choices don't matter. "since when were you the one in control?" so it wouldn't surprise me at all if they're related to deltarune.
anyway... all that to say that chara is related to the number 999 and since they seem to have significance in deltarune, that unused room might mean something.
Typer value 999 is actually an echoing susie voice, not toriel
@@leedlelel2373 It's still toriel saying it tho.
@@Violet111 people are gonna joke about 69 number if 9 is Chara-related and 6 is Gaster-related
Gaster does get referred to as "him". The name of the images on deltarune's old website that contained the messages in wingdings were titled "him.png", his theme is also titled "mus_him" if i'm not mistaken.
actually thats brilliant
"photon readings are negative"
not as in there are no photons
but literally negative light
creepy how wordplay can be
Negative light is a horrifying concept to think about
Yess! Inexplainabley terrifying.......
I thought negative light would just make everything appear in the opposite color of what they'd normally look, as in photonegative
@@regulate.artificer_g23.mdctlsk theoretically thats exactly what would happen
red would be cyan
green would be purple
blue would be yellow
and black would be white and vice versa
but we cant exactly do tests to prove it
@@regulate.artificer_g23.mdctlsk It means that instead of emiting light, it emits darkness. Much like the darkness that comes out of the closet door in chapter 1.
Finally someone explains it. It always felt like an inside joke or secret when people talked about him.
It sort of is, since the whole thing is that the character was deleted from existence, there is no decisive proof in-game of who he is nor how he looks and Toby sure as hell never even acknowledged it
The mysteryman sprite is just a likely candidate
Well, that’s just the result of Gaster being a continuous point of speculation ever since Undertale’s original release. Easy to assume everyone’s at least vaguely familiar with him.
That said, it’s really cool to see how many new people joined the fandom after Chapter 2. I hope this trend continues in future chapter releases.
@@mussi_125 You can get the door, but the chance of it ever spawning is decided at the start of the run, and only 1% of runs are even eligible to have it spawn (the fun value on your save must be set to 66)
A way to know if you got the right run is to see if any other rare events happen, only 1 fun value event can happen per run, so if you see any other you can tell your run won't have it spawn
The way people do 100% secrets runs is by saving, editing the FUN value and loading, but in PS4 you can't afaik
welcome to the club
5:31 I don't think he looks melty because of the heat.
Remember what happened to the other monsters injected with determination?
It would make sense that gaster melted because of determination of some sort, as it is mentioned that in order to make a darkworld a lightener needs to bedeternined to do so, and Gaster appears to havesome connection to the darkworld shenanigans
Didn’t alphys do the determination stuff on her own. And that was her main project to make for a while.
Something that's honestly kind of terrifying about the core is that, if you fall in and die, not only will you not technically die, but everyone will forget you ever existed as well
That was based on a common interpretation of the secret picture you find in Sans' lab, the one with three badly drawn people and "don't forget" scribbled on the back. People have interpreted it as a child's drawing of the skeleton family, Sans, Papyrus and Gaster as their father/grandfather/uncle who adopted them, and the "don't forget" is Sans doing his best to fight the amnesia caused by the CORE when Gaster fell into it, his "creation".
Come Deltarune, heavily hinted to be something Gaster created and has worked on, with its three Delta Warriors, of which Toby has made a drawing that seems very childish, and its "Don't forget" theme appearing everywhere... and now you have a whole other plethora of wild mass guessing.
So just like normal death?
Wait hold up, the ice might be proof of this, ice is used to cool down the core as we see it travelling from snowdin, to waterfall, to just before hotland, and then to the core, falling in into the core
Ice wolf throws the ice into the river carrying it there, if you call papyrus he says that nobody knows where the ice goes, maybe it's because they forget? Like "oh yeah that ice goes into the core to cool it down", then the ice falls into the core "I don't remember saying that", people forgot
Edit: nevermind, if you call papyrus and undyne, undyne tells papyrus that alphys told her that it goes into the core to cool it down
@@JeffDeff-hp3el You don't die, you literally have your existence shattered across Time and Space, both existing and not existing, with all memory of your existence gone. There's not even a past version of you anymore, as that too has ceased to be. You never existed, yet you still exist while barely existing at all. Seeing through the borders of reality, seeing through all fates, all realities, all possibilities. Every event, every dream, every nightmare across Space and Time going through your existent yet non existent mind as your existence collapses in on itself, reforming yet again, before ceasing once more.
@@ManicFictionHow could we never exist if the CORE still exists? Does Gaster die then Asgore just like, waits an absurdly long time to get a new royal scientist? Asgore waiting a long time to get a new scientist doesn’t make sense if he forgot Gaster’s existence.
I remember hearing the "garbage noise" for the first time and flipping out. The implications are insane! It's crazy how many new fans don't realize how big this is.
Also when you stand at the bunker in deltarune for a while a noise starts playing, and I believe if you speed that up by 666% it becomes the "garbage noise," further confirming presence of gaster in deltarune. Many fans (including myself) believe that the bunker and more importantly what's in it somehow tie to gaster. I personally hope that throughout the rest of deltarune there are bits and pieces of stuff that make you say "WAIT WAS THAT GASTER" but it's never confirmed. I WANT MYSTERY MAN TO STAY MYSTERIOUS. That's just my opinion tho
Same. What I think is going to happen, and what I really hope Toby is going to go for, is that Deltarune proper will have a satisfying resolution, clearing up everything with the Knight, Asriel and everyone, but there’ll always be hints that something darker (yet darker) is happening in the background. It’s basically already what’s happening so far with Jevil and Spamton, and I hope Toby doesn’t feel the need to integrate the secret bosses and their backstories into the main story of the game.
My big tinfoil hat theory is that the bunker is going to be a location that’s important to the main story, since it’s so prominent in the setting and there was that scene with Monster Kid, but there’ll be some hidden area there, far more expansive than the main bunker itself, probably revealed using shadow crystals, that either wraps up Gaster’s and the secret bosses’ stories or sets up whatever Toby is going to do after Deltarune.
I was hoping she would include the bunker bit in video...
I mean, at some point the Gaster bait is gonna get so intense that Gaster needs to be revealed. From a narrative perspective, Toby is ramping up the Gaster stuff more and more and it appears as though it's going to build up to a payoff. Of course, I can't say this for certain, but don't be disappointed if all is eventually revealed
you actually only need to stand south of the bunker. you dont have to wait.
I think inside the bunker is either a “shortcut” to muffet and grillby or a fountain where the knight is living in.
7:00 "DELTARUNE Chapter 1 came out a little over a month later," every time i rewatch this video this delivery gives me chills oh my god