I think one of my problems with the fandom is that some of the popular sanses are actually quite interesting, but they just got so fanonized that they just aren't that interesting anymore
This was great, I hope you make more podcast type videos maybe next can be how the Fandom portrays Papyrus, ashore, ETC, anyway hope you have a good day.
I think the fandom does asGORE pretty well, a caring dad/husband forced to do awful things for his people I love how one letter off can result in funny things like this
@Metalic first off yes ashore my favorite deltatale character, second off, I do see some portraying hima s weak, just a monster, horrible etc, anyway gday
The next part will be about Papyrus, our AsGOAT, since Asgore is my Favorite Undertale Character and the Fandom always ignores him. But i plan on making some Theories Videos as well,like why does Undertale have so many AUs and other Fandom doesn't.
I want a funny story about sans and asgore hanging out. Also sans wasn't the only one who stopped flowery, flowery mentioned that he couldn't get through asgore after flowery got the chance to kill him.
It's weird, Horror is just sans but hungry, it doesn't really work when trying to make him communicate with other characters like Nightmare or Killer. Though I'd prefer if he was more somber and indifferent I understand why he's depicted the way he is.
Yeah he could have easily killed Aliza but he didn't and I saw all the comics of horror tale I mean he did cut her ear and some other stuff but not really really crazy and doesn't treat Aliza like a slave like I seen in some fanmade comics which they are all weird
@@r0z557 He didn't say sorry, he was going to eat her again after she got out the oven but Aliza gave him a bottle of ketchup and so he left her after saying "Why are you so nice to me?"
Here is an improvement on the Sans stays at home AU: A day in the life of Sans Sans is woken up early (at 11 am) by Papyrus, so he decides to go eat breakfast at grillby's. While he eats, he chats with grillby for a small time, and then he gets back home. After taking a nap, he is woken up by Papyrus, who tells him to guard the exit. He tells a few puns to Toriel, and then has brunch. Grillby seems annoyed, but doesnt mind, and Sans talks to the dogs for a while. Sans decudes that he worked hard enough, and uses his powers to cause a mess in his room. Papyrus says "Vo work you lazy bones" which Sans, makes a pun out of, and then he decides to be "productive" by going to the hot dog stand, and after selling two hot dogs, he says its closed (he ate the rest). Sans feels very tired, and goes eat at-*Grillbys*. Sans feels full, so he takes a stroll around Snowdin town and jikes with the monsters, like the shopkeeper. Its now 3.pm, and Sans feels bored, so he goes to the trash dump, where he finds a movie. Sans goes buy some Pop-Corn, and leaves it home, and then goes to the mettaton resort taunt burger pants. After getting his very fancy meal (aka, a MTT burger) he goes back home, and plays some Uno with his brother, normally, hed let his brpther win, but i Uno, brotherhood isnt real. Its now 5 pm, and sans goes dining at Grillby's. After engaging in small talk again, he chooses that he wants to do something fun. But before, he fries some snow, and sells ONE hot dog. 6.pm, Sans goes to Undynes house and tells her "hey undyne, I was lookin for food in the dumpster, and I found this neat movie, you wanna watch with me and paps?" Undyne says "Idk, what tupe of movie is it" Sans: "it says its an adventure and action movie call-" and Undyne responds "IM IN". He teleports to Alphys's lab, and says "hey, doc alphys, wanna see this neat lil movie, says its called jumanji, Im watching with paps and undyne" to which Alphys responds: "Sure, just lrt me get ready" and Sans says: "you have till 7:00". He then gets home and tells Papyrus, telling him Alphys and Undyne will come, and after being slightly annoyed, Paps agrees, and Sans naps till its time. At 7:00, he teleports Alphys and Undyne to the couch and then they see the movie. Theyre all so invested, and during the climax, Paps says:"SANS, DID YOU SEE THAT? THAT WAS AMAZING" and then realizes Sans slept through the movie. "SANS, WAKE UP YOU LAZY BONES, YOURE GONNA MISS THE BEST PART!" and he finishes it. Sans says:"im tired, i'm gonna sleep" and sleeps till the next day arrives. The next day, happen the events of Undertale. Hope this sounds like an accurate depiction of Sans
Drama! Romance! Bloodshed! Even to the point where you wrote the most edgy story of all time! Am not sure if Asgore actually knows or if he just nodded out of confusion but selecting „yes“ at the after-reset version of the pie question Toriel outright confirms that the other humans could reset, wich probably just means that all of the humans eventually gave up. Also PAPYRUS‘ emotional intelligence was also forgotten alongside his puzzle making skill. Also he clearly knows about that time and space stuff. And Alphys has the multiverse theory. (In my opinion Alphys should be the common character that travels through the multiverse despite her not being in my top 5 characters.) Also don’t forgor all the fanfic where chara is a sociopath or psychopath or something. They are just a bit less depressed than Flowey. Between being „not the best person“and literally psycho is a HUGE difference. People can laugh things off in real life you know. Also sans doesn’t vividly remember the timelines that came before.
Fr. Asgore is just theorised to know about them although given he has access to them and he seemingly allowed experiments being done of them, he does likely know what happened. Papyrus is low-key underrated, he knows about the time and space stuff that Sans has, this mainly just says that Sans has a bit of Space-Time Manipulation going for him which makes sense given how big the Black room is but Sanses actual room is not anywhere as big. Alphys has the theory of other Universes being out there rather than the Multiverse Theory although it is interesting. Fr😭people villainise Chara as if there aren't any other characters that are more suitable, and if there aren't then just make a new villain like how GT did with Betty. Fanon Chara is literally just "Kill, Reset, kill, Reset, kill" in an endless cycle meanwhile in the game after only 2 genocides they say to take another path😭I really do hope Deltarune fixes them ngl since they already have a few implications of being in it. Yeah he only gets deja vu like everyone else, the only thing that differentiates him is that he has more knowledge about timelines, not that he remembers them. Overall, a valid comment.
fanon dust sans : after I have finally killed the kid I'm finally free to kill people canon dust sans : I killed the HUMAN, now I can rest off this.. wait.. I'M ALONE!?.
I disagree with this personally. The amount of people acting like this is fact, when it is something more up to interpretation nowadays is something I find odd.
Sans is really good at reading people and expressions, but to be able to read how many times u died from expressions I just don’t personally find possible. Sans is just being purposely vague and opaque about stuff, because that is Sans as a character, and because genus careful and smart.
This is very true. I find sans very overated as well, and that's why alphys is my favorite. The opinion I most get hated for is that Sans is not powerful and that he is very weak because 1HP & 1AT and the community makes him have like ♾️HP for example: last breath where sans somehow saw gaster and got "powers " its pretty stupid in my opinion. Another opinion I get hated for is Chara is NOT the villain
That's why I like GT Sans's showings or Canon Dust Tale's, in Glitchtale, especially S2 you see that even though he's very powerful with the advent of Determination he still gets slammed by Betty or Bete, however you spell it. Only having two fights where Sans with DT actually shines is with his fight with Chara and Void Gaster back in S1. Then, at DustTale due to how much power he's accumulated due to his LV, he doesn't dodge and instead takes hits, eventually dying due to that big mistake. Easily having moments where we could've died if not for the kindness shield or if he actually dodged and stalled enough to end us. (I don't actually know if Evan's game is canon or not, but take it how you will.)
Same I agree with everything you say toriel is my favourite character shes also one of the lowest favourite character of the main bosses like undyne asgore sans etc
@@mastercrimas9163 same GT sans isn't like those that he can remember resets but a glitch made him remember resets and he knows his limits so he doesn't use all of his power because he will melt this is why I like glitchtale sans instead of fanon sans
I'm gonna be honest, a decent amount of this is kind of exaggerated, like alot, and the part of people forgetting papyrus is a master of puzzles, the joke in the game is the fact he makes decently easy puzzles with him exaggerating how hard and well made they are.
@@f4milytime475 As a slight sense of deja-vu, everyone can remember it, not that they can really make use of it But only Flowey and Frisk/Chara can fully remember So i guess it's *yesn't*
Personally, I like to think of a sans fight if sans never made a promise, and for balancing the game, sans only does one damage, has no karma, the attacks arent insanely fast, and I consider sans as the lazy bones he is, so the fight is fair, he doesnt go all out, he puts minimal effort. And THATS (imo) an accurate depiction of sans
To be fair he does try towards the end of the genocide fight, and unlike what most people have begun to think, he isn't just a "haha funni guy" in the genocide route, especially with the fact he literally summons a total of 100 blasters in his final/survive this attack, and the Fandom cries if sans uses over 10 blasters in an animation. Edit: he also avoids interacting with you if you kill papyrus, and that is the main focus of his intent to fight you, showing that he cares alot, but doesn't try to show it.
@@The_eggy_one Yea, but he probably wont be trying hard if you fight him after the ruins, It will probably be an easy fight, also beacause of power scaling. In this "Alternate Universe" were sans didnt promise to not kill you, he might as well be counted as a mini boss Unless you started genocide, in which case he wont appear and youll get the canon fight
Ok this isn't about the video itself, but I love the podcast vibe. I have an "Unofficial" Certified Addiction to Undertale, said by my therapist friend. I always try to make my life about Undertale. I only listen to Undertale music, mainly play Undertale games, and always drop money on undertale stuff (Deltarune included in all of this) and I LOVE this channel. I needed a channel that talks about undertale/Aus and this is it. The podcast vibe makes it better as it feels that I am just vibing to a podcast, but about my favorite thing ever. Keep up the good work, I love all of it 👍
sans fighting with his full will of destroying you: asgore not trying to really murder but he was going slow at you : fandom : yep sans is stronger also asgore destroying being able to destroy frisk in 1 hit if frisk did actually make him angry:
@Yo na sans can kinda attack you in the menu while asgore can can outright destroy a part of you menu ,not to hinder but to make it impossible to spare him because it would a rather easy to do so. if he wanted he could also outright destroy the fight button before the fight as well but chooses not to. asirel only with his STRONGEST FORM can destroy the fight menu buttons...
2:30 Sans knows about resets and He can learn that you have the ability to reset. Flowey actually knows when you reset just like the player. The rest of the characters get deja vus from resets but they don’t know about that
Only us, Flowey and Chara remember resets, Sans just has deja vus like every other character, the only difference is that he knows they exist from his (and possibly Alphy's, making her just as aware) research
@@narrativeless404 Sans is aware of them that what I meant when I said that sans knows about resets I didn’t say Sans remembers resets. Flowey remembers resets and Chara knows about everything you erase Floweys memories in a true pacifist and in a genocide run
fanon dusttale : sans GRRR angry canon dusttale : sans has had it with your shit (because you did literally 327 genocides so sans is now bored not even angry he has gone mad over how much he gets slashed)
While a lot of this is right, I would like to add something important. While in a normal AU, it is very easy not to go into a Sans-centric territory, in a Multiversal AU, it is more complicated. After all, to make the Multiverse feel like an actual living place, you need to recruit AUs and Out!Codes, and for most of the latter, they are Sanses. You can't do much against that, you are community-dependant when making a Multiversal AU. Making every character all by yourself is also a bad idea as you will most likely end up underdeveloping characters. Of course, if you try hard enough, you can find some obscure AUs and Out!Codes that you can use, but it's not that easy and it is a part of the process of Multiverse AU making I barely see anyone talking about.
What about fallback? If you don’t know what it is it’s an Undertale AU that takes place after a pacifist route, and the humans don’t accept the monsters and start another war and kill all of them, and Frisk is the last one defending the monsters, despite all of the monsters being dead
The song is called meglo strength of will, this AU is very unpopular so it doesn’t have much information, if you want to look it up then type fallback Undertale AU
That's bad just because the other characters are mostly ignored Underverse is a great example of this Especially the modern Underverse, after the 0.5 Like literally, X-Chara was at least something that had plot relavance but isn't a Sans
Btw fun fact: the "Murder Sans helps other Universes or smth else" is not canon, it's stated as Official but not canon or relevant to the story at all + almost everything that was mentioned in some of the DustTale videos that were made here are also only official and not canon to the AU, Ask-DustTale isn't doing much about the AU as well other than saying "this is official, that is official, these are official" and shipping "DustArd" aka Dust!Sans x Fell!Sans which is btw, Official to the AU as well, thank god it's not canon, but anyways, as I said, a lot of stuff for the AU which you've mentioned back in past videos are only official and not canon to the AU, Murder canonically never had any interactions with any AU's, yes, AT's of him, maybe but him by himself? Nah, he's always trapped in his AT trying to kill the human or trapped for eternity until the human comes back
Finally someone realize murder didn’t defeat the human by becoming emo 😂 also I think it’s more believable for murder to be a helper of dream than a servant/slave of nightmare
@@bruhntastic3021 true but it's also official that he's not a servant for anyone, not canon, official, he's stated to have actually fought against Nightmare due to him not accepting his deal, which is why Nightmare forced him to join in, why exactly? God knows tbh, he already had Horror and Killer, and UTF said recently that it's possible for Nightmare to pursuad Insanity to join him as well, so basically Murder is only there cause yes, those stuff are still official, which is sorta half-canon of sorts since they came out from the creator, but they aren't relevant or canon to the story of DustTale and it's AU
@@NoOneImportant233 I think nightmare would want murder bc of the negative aura around murder so yea also I believe fell would be one of nightmare servant as fell are filled with negativity and (fell is evil while murder is supposed to be broken/fallen hero I guess )
@@bruhntastic3021 fell isn't evil, atleast not anymore in the Fandoms eyes. He's just edgy. He wouldn't, say, genocide his entire underground several times to see if anything changes or to become stronger like Killer or Dust. There's no reason he would go along with Nightmare willingly, he'd try to betray them at any moment if he is forced.
@@NoOneImportant233 I don't see what your crying about. It isn't Canon, but it's official, I for one appreciated that info about his possibly joining core frisk and helping other aus, it's something I didn't know and it's an interesting take. Though it's very unlikely as Murder only cares about his AU, just like him being forced into the Nightmare crew I can see it as a possibility that gives a new angle to Murder. Him being one of my favorite AUs.
(Dt) have a murder sans who does help our universe version of sans named DT (determination) sans a video will be made soon if you are interested (Dt) edit: when we aren’t being a lazybones hehe
TGV sans isn't actually sans he's actually some god level being that took the form and name of sans like how dream and nightmares mom took inspiration of swap sans and made dream and nightmares body based off of swap sans
As anyone who uses Internet, I was mildly aware of Sans pre-Undertale obsession, but not so much. I finally looked into Undertale last year with very little knowledge of the game and expecting a lot of the skeleton. (I didn't even know it was an RPG lol). Just as when I watched Attack on Titan and Death Note, I came in expecting the most popular character to be everywhere, the protagonist or second lead. And nope! Tertiary charactes with a couple centric-eps and some cameos. Same with Sans, but less. I'd argue that Papyrus should've gotten more rep...! And then I saw Megalovania, and I understood it. Sans' only character trait, Megalovania. Yeah, I see it, but I really don't get why in spite of being overrated he's still like, the main character. Heck, Underverse sold me on the idea that Gaster *should* be the protagonist; super ysterious, more wiggle room to invent a personality, the theory of him being everywhere all the time? Perfect reality bender protagonist! If not, Frisk! I like Core Frisk. The entire point of the game is that we're reality benders that Save, Reset and Reload the game to our hearts' content. Or, or maybe Undyne; cool fish lady, of the few characters that get Determination to fight us, much much physically stronger than any monster we know off (bench-pressing heavy stuff). I think it's unfair that "Battle Against a True Hero" got overshadowed by Megalovania, when it's just as emotionally meaning, just as difficult, and THE point of no return on your descent into evil, plus her ship gives her something to do, unlike the Sanses that got to Onceler levels of shipping. What about Flowey/Asriel?! He's canonically reset so many times that he's just bored of everything and wants to destroy it all with us. It's the perfect angstfest for content creation. What about a universe with Genocide but he escapes and tries to collect the human SOULs to stop Chara? What about a True Pacifist where Frisk comes back to revive him or something? What if, in one of his many resets he encountered Gaster, (time-travel shenaningans, yadda yadda, plot, fanon, some Deus ex Machina...) and joined forces to create a new world... or something.
It is true that humans who fell into the underground had the power to reset because Toriel had a feeling of deja vu with other humans, she talks about it to Frisk if we reset.
Sans is my favorite character in Undertale and, as you can tell by my pfp, Dusttale is my favorite au. I like the concept and the story of Dust/Murderer but everytime I see anything that has to do with him it's always dark and edgy, it's always the same. Sans gets tired of dying and watching his loved ones die so he kills them himself then after so many times he becomes completely insane and just kills for fun. I just want the story to continue and see him actually grow like some of your examples, like guts or one of my favorite characters, John from Un-ordinary. He was constantly bullied for not having any powers for years and once he finally got his he started to become just like his bullies then after getting punished and shown the error of his ways he moved to a new home and started a new life where he could start over and grow, without using the powers that caused his trouble, and it actually worked. Yes he still had his moments but it worked out for him. Thought it might not happen anyway time soon I hope the fandom could actually make a story with progress in it, whether or not Sans is the MC
(I literally wrote this comment right when i heard "sans can remember resets" and then played the video and heard you say basically exactly what i typed here, whoopsie, i still do believe all this though) Sans actually can't remember resets, he just knows they exist from "our reports" about "the anomaly", which is flowey, or at least was flowey, but sans thinks it's the human, (and he's technically right but his reports are showing the stuff that flowey did since you could go a whole run without messing with the timeline) either way, every character has a suspicion that they've already been through something if you go back, Toriel feeling like you know something she doesn't if you've killed her before, Papyrus wondering if he "knows that human", Undyne remembering Frisk's want to become friends, and Asgore nodding sadly when you tell him he's killed you, and i'll actually come back to Asgore later cause he's super interesting every character has a sense of deja vu, the difference that sans makes is that he knows that there's something up, and when he gets that sense, he knows it's actually real and doesn't just brush it off he capitalises on it, which is how he "knows", he just studies the human the only character that ACTUALLY full on knows is Flowey because he has enough determination to remember, since before he had enough determination to control the timeline But, i have a pretty strong theory that Asgore also knows about the timeline, and this is because he seems pretty understanding when you tell him he's killed you before and we also know that the other humans had determination, since that's what Alphys extracts to eventually inject into monsters My theory is that, before Flowey was made, the other humans came through and had the power to control the timeline, and when Asgore killed them, they kept coming back, and Asgore, of course got that deja vu feeling as all the characters do But i believe that one of those humans before they were permanantly killed and lost the will to continue, told Asgore about their control over the timeline, that they can go back, that when he kills them, they come back over and over, perhaps as a way to intimidate him, perhaps as a way to reason with him, we don't know, but it makes too much sense that they would've told him when considering his reaction when we tell him just a small theory of mine
This video was great , and it is great since i havemt finished watching it yet But i agree with everything you have said , but i wsnt to clarify just one thing. Dear humans , yall are forgetting the stats and power those boss monsters had. Toriel and Asgore are the only boss monsters in the Underground , only their soul was able to hold itself after their physical forms getting destroyed They are much stronger , and very much able than SANS Sans was only strong because of his passive , a perfect ability for the judge. Karma , the more deeds you do... the more judgement you will get We litteraly eradicated the entire underground , it was only natural for him to be so hard for us to kill. That wouldnt be the case in the normal run , kill a few monsters , face off Sans.. he surely will be really easy than his Genocide self. Asgore and Toriel on the other hand , they held back their power a LOT. Toriel was only testing us and had no intention to kill us. Of she wanted to , she would very likely kill us on the spot. Same with Asgore , he TRIED to kill us but we softened him off. He was very tired from all this fighting and wanted everything to be over. He had blood of several kinds on his hand and this was enough to completely weaken him to the point where he would have a breakdown, but hr had to stay strong for his people. He had to do what he did , he started it and gave his people another hope. He couldnt just let it all go away and sll that effort be in vain. Our effort on stopping the fight softened him , thats how we were able to defeat him. Asgorr was able to remember every and EVERY RESET , Save or Load. Its only natural for boss monsters to own this kind of ability. So my point is , Asgore and Toriel are the strongest monsters in the entire underground. Sans was called the weakest for a reason , and so he was. Papyrus , Undyne and even Alphys had some sort of better stats than him. Sans's fight was only to represent that Determanistic Nihilism , Nihilism can be overcomed! Yall cant just smoke on my bois like this. Good day.
i really dont mind. i actually like it, for the simple fact that even you said he is the ´´weakest`` one, and i think sans is most interesting one if you dont count Gaster or Asriel of course, Alphys i simply dont care about her. I think a lot of people think sans is really strong because he is the hardest boss, at least that is what i think, i never defeated sans i wasnt able to go past him (and i kinda already knew the ending so i simply gave up) and asgore like...i defeated him in one try LOL it kinda just gives the illusion that Sans is one of the strongest characters. and of course he also is the only character that can dodge (from what i remember at least). i think another option would be Asriel, i dont think there is a au where Asriel is the protag, and i think it would be really cool to see.
This video is good and all. There are many valid and agreedable point, but at 21:01 it is just false Or to be fair It basically refers to 2020-2021 true godverse, ignoring basically what Tgv is now Also I don't get really the Sts image who was put here, as he does not have anything to do with True Godverse or 90% of the video
well I like the HEADCANON-ed Sans. Bc you know If you figured this out by checking on the internet, I will sub this. And I have seen him many times on the internet, also I have seen Can on Sans and Fan on Sans
Tbf, in aus, I don’t give much of a shit, as long as the mc is well written, sans or not, I don’t care and in many cases as AlphaTale/Error/AfterTale/Handplates and others sans is well written and thas all i care about. Writing>character look and powers. Yes powers too, who cares if the character is hella strong as long as the writing is ok, like I ain’t gonna judge a character by its power level tbh, or if it’s a skeleton or not, AUs r rarely well written, let the well written be, even if they have Sans as the main character
Ok not ALL at's/aus are bad yes alot are garbage, but there are alot of good grounded ones too. Yes even lewd ones. I cannot say which one but I will say if you actually TRY to read it it's not bad.
Damn you hate the fandom so much and me too I hate fanon sans and it’s extremely cringy Also i want to ask do u hate dark story or is it bc it’s the same story
I dont hate Dark Storys Batman The Cult and Lisa The Painfull are great Dark Storys, since there put there Main Protagonist into situation where there showed there true self, and also talked about unplessend topics in a Mature way. These Storys also makes us Appreciate our Save world and make us Appreciate it once again. But i can't take an Undertale AU seriously when the Story is always the same, because i start to stop caring, i don't care that Sans once again lost everyone he Loved, idont care that Sans killed everyone, and i dont care that he became Mad, since all of this Happened so many times already. The only thing that can make me care once again if the Story was good if it had a Messages and if it's not the same Story with just a different twist.
@@teachtale9214 oh ok then I wanted to ask u to look at au called undercharge it’s so different than most aus as sans isn’t the Mc but actually there’s no mc every character is their own mc with their own story and stuff
Sans in my opinion got overrated due to the fandoms love for the character. I love Power scaling and story like Alphatale Or TGV I like making characters op that are not sans. Yes I like making Gaster and chara a MC
Tbh. There's nothing wrong with sans being a main character if the story is good. Hell it doesn't matter what people do as long it has good writing then i can't complain.
I just see every version of Sans or Sans AU's as like a copy of the original AU or original Undertale. In every AU are little chainges. Like og Murder/Dust stays in his AU/AT for intornety, while an other version/copy met other AU's/ AT's. And this is for litterely EVERY SINGAL AU/MULTIVERSE OUT THERE. Even my version of this AU's aren't gonna be canon, because the AU's them selfs aren't canon themselfs anymore, their copies of a copy. And even if you try to be as canon as posseble, it's never gonna be canon, bc the fact that you, yourself, didn't created the AU itself makes everything that happens in this AU/Multiverse non-canon anyway.
It only can be canon if you, yourself, are the Creater of this AU/Multiverse itself. If it's your *version* of an AU from an other Creater, nothing you do will be canon to it, annway.
While this video is right in many aspects,there are wrong stuffs First of all,Dust/Murder and Horror are not edgy,Dust is just somewhat insane and even then he's not edgy,nor is he overpowered,in fact he never won against his human. As for Horror,I don't get how you can call him edgy when he's just hungry,aside from that he's the same as his canon self. As for Killer he's the pinnacle of edgyness,no need to correct anything(same for insanity) Inverted fate is a good au,although it isn't the only one(in my opinion epictale is better) As for the godverse part,it has changed a lot,now the characters have actual stories and interesting writing Overall, this video was the truth about the undertale fandom,although there were a few mistakes here and there,it was still an enjoyable watch,W video 👍
Why is Horror!sans in the bad sanses?!! He isn't even bad, just hungry and screwed over by the human. Murder time trio?!!!! Only only people he's killed is the royal guard and Aliza, in self defence and hunger, EVEN PAPYRUS IS MORE MURDEROUS THAN HIM!!! The Horror!sans story is so good and original, he's not some edgy, murderous sans!!! for some reason he's immortal in cannon because of his eyebeing in the core and the fact that he's already dead. That's the only thing I have against horror!sans. Also killer sans, why murder time trio, he doesn't even want to kill the human. Dust!sans, HE DOESN'T REMEMBER RESETS AT ALL!!! He's told about it. I don't like insanity sans though.
It was never clarified if he is immortal or not. It was never stated that he actually died. He survived the ordeal some how but it has yet to be fully explained.
@@ahmedjoycesneakattacksquad5003 seems you found someone who takes it seriously then, same case with how many people take the Frans ship or Fontscest ships serious, they shouldn't exist, canon or not, Frans and Fontscest aren't canon, and Papyrus x Frisk shouldn't even have ever existed, but eh, thanks to Toby it does, I mean what should anyone expect? The fandom is filled with Pedophile's
@@NoOneImportant233 dude those ships are different than our date with papyruses in the game plus it's not like he kissed us or anything all we did with papyrus was giving each other compliments and that's it we don't even become a couple at the end of the date we become friends.
Horror is not that bad to be honest its like the best of the edgy trio ( mtt ) finally a neutral run is used to start an undertale au story and he has a good story and its not only about him but people only remeber him and MAYBE undyne because " Uh uNdYne DiD tHe hOle iN tHe SkUlL oF sAnS aNd BeCoMe CraZy" that is just stupid
*Overrated* - I agree that sans is overrated since most of the fangames, stories, ocs are all about sans, and the most focus is on sans, doesn't mean i don't like him, it made me lose my interest on the aus and nothing is original. *Stories* - i don't know about story part, i mostly find interesting stories or concepts like Negativetale, dusttale, canon underfell, XTale, Undertale Something New, Dreamtale, etc. but the edgy part is something i haven't went deep on it. *Main Focus And Originality* - Even tho sans is the main focus on most of the aus but there's good ones that don't focus on him like Glitchtale. about the originality, there's good aus like dusttale it gave the fandom the idea of what if sans killed every monster to stop the human, which is not only this but it also introduces us Monsters Gaining LV Concept. Underfell, what if monsters believe the world is kill or be killed. Outertale, what if monsters live in the space. Underswap, swap everyone roles and keep most of their personalities. etc. *Power Scaling* - Power Scaling is actually important for the story, i don't mean with >1 character from undertale vs 1 character from alphatale< , what i mean is by knowing how strong the character is, how did they became this strong, and what's their limit, which is important for the story. i know this always results to people debating which character is stronger than that character [obviously it would]. Power scaling if done correctly can help spot inconsistencies within a work or help clear it up, it can help the viewer be more knowledgeable of a series they love because then they’d know how strong their favorite characters are. *Fanon Versions* - All i can think of great example is underswap, they made US Sans from Cool Guy to Toy R Us Child Toy and things went even deeper which i don't want to mention. sometimes Fanon Versions can be better than Canon AUs but it doesn't mean Fanon is better but it depends on how good the fanon au is. that's all i have and see in the fandom, i haven't kept with the fandom because i lost my interest with the aus and original concepts, i don't blame people for not having original concepts since not everyone is creative.
bro sorry but sans is scientist because in his house , he has a book of joke and inside that book there is a book about quantum physic so it's canon that sans is a scientist lol
sans isint actualy the strongist charcter its undyne bc undyne has her undyne the undying phase and alots of hp the only reason why sans lost is bc his stam if ever cannon undyne and cannon sans cannon undyne will always win bc her attacks being hard to dodge if your not skilled enough sans whould get tierd and not deal any dmg to undyne bc undyne has tons of hp and tricky attacks that sans would have hard times dodgeing it and i think cannon sans has 1 hp so if he gets hit 1 time its game over for him and sans isint some sort of god or anything hes just a skeleton with magic attacks he cant come back he cant save or load he cant reaset or true reaset and he cant erase the timeline but if your saying whos the strongest charcter in undertale its chara bc chara and deal massive dmg always come back save and load true or normal resets and even delete the timeline i know she can delete the timeline bc she did you said to not erase this timeline so she can do it? and she does chara isint a bad person and the reason why she didnt fight back as a ghost in the gen route and become a human is bc chara had determination not frisk frisk only landid on the bed of flowers (charas grave) and the dt from chara transperd to frisk bc frisk is the player so they need the dt to come back and try again as many times as they like so whos the main villien? not the humans but you the player they are the person that does gen nutral or pacfi and chara even tells you that the true hero is undyne and chara + i hate sans lol my favorite character is asgore
Idk why you hate genocide sans stories, calling them "edgy". Sorry you hate conflict but you know it is what drives the plot, there are plenty of stories where noone dies and nothing happens on that Sans Comic Channel or whatever it's called but we don't talk about those because nothing happens. No conflict, no story. Edit: Noones saying Horrortale Undyne is completely at fault...idk where you got that from...they are all victims of the circumstance and we get to see what they do to eachother, I don't even know what you meant by that. Edit 2: Noone cares about deeper stories, is that why Underverse is like the most popular series in the undertale fandom?
Yes i agree with you brah I am quite new and have only been around for a few years and I thought because I had seen some videos that error sans was real !! this is so sad how stupid i was! I am now one very similar opinion and I'm often very disappointed by MANY MANY comics or games.....It's actually almost pathetic! Unfortunately I have to say that I've never played the game that directly because I don't have a console or pc 😢.Playing fan games is not a decision for that
I think one of my problems with the fandom is that some of the popular sanses are actually quite interesting, but they just got so fanonized that they just aren't that interesting anymore
It's the internet. Don't let it get to you
6:30 this is the reason that I respect Horrortale because it continues a neutral route
This was great, I hope you make more podcast type videos maybe next can be how the Fandom portrays Papyrus, ashore, ETC, anyway hope you have a good day.
I think the fandom does asGORE pretty well, a caring dad/husband forced to do awful things for his people
I love how one letter off can result in funny things like this
@Metalic first off yes ashore my favorite deltatale character, second off, I do see some portraying hima s weak, just a monster, horrible etc, anyway gday
The next part will be about Papyrus, our AsGOAT, since Asgore is my Favorite Undertale Character and the Fandom always ignores him.
But i plan on making some Theories Videos as well,like why does Undertale have so many AUs and other Fandom doesn't.
@@teachtale9214 same asgore is my favorite char
I want a funny story about sans and asgore hanging out. Also sans wasn't the only one who stopped flowery, flowery mentioned that he couldn't get through asgore after flowery got the chance to kill him.
Horror sans is seriously not that crazy minded and blood thirsty in horrortale and yet the fandom heaavily makes him edgier than he is.
It's weird, Horror is just sans but hungry, it doesn't really work when trying to make him communicate with other characters like Nightmare or Killer. Though I'd prefer if he was more somber and indifferent I understand why he's depicted the way he is.
Yeah he could have easily killed Aliza but he didn't and I saw all the comics of horror tale I mean he did cut her ear and some other stuff but not really really crazy and doesn't treat Aliza like a slave like I seen in some fanmade comics which they are all weird
@@endme9440 Horror even tries to say sorry to Aliza moments later of cutting her arm off, since his hunger got the best of him
@@r0z557 He didn't say sorry, he was going to eat her again after she got out the oven but Aliza gave him a bottle of ketchup and so he left her after saying "Why are you so nice to me?"
@@user153xhzbso8e that happens pages later
Here is an improvement on the Sans stays at home AU: A day in the life of Sans
Sans is woken up early (at 11 am) by Papyrus, so he decides to go eat breakfast at grillby's. While he eats, he chats with grillby for a small time, and then he gets back home. After taking a nap, he is woken up by Papyrus, who tells him to guard the exit. He tells a few puns to Toriel, and then has brunch. Grillby seems annoyed, but doesnt mind, and Sans talks to the dogs for a while. Sans decudes that he worked hard enough, and uses his powers to cause a mess in his room. Papyrus says "Vo work you lazy bones" which Sans, makes a pun out of, and then he decides to be "productive" by going to the hot dog stand, and after selling two hot dogs, he says its closed (he ate the rest). Sans feels very tired, and goes eat at-*Grillbys*. Sans feels full, so he takes a stroll around Snowdin town and jikes with the monsters, like the shopkeeper. Its now 3.pm, and Sans feels bored, so he goes to the trash dump, where he finds a movie. Sans goes buy some Pop-Corn, and leaves it home, and then goes to the mettaton resort taunt burger pants. After getting his very fancy meal (aka, a MTT burger) he goes back home, and plays some Uno with his brother, normally, hed let his brpther win, but i Uno, brotherhood isnt real. Its now 5 pm, and sans goes dining at Grillby's. After engaging in small talk again, he chooses that he wants to do something fun. But before, he fries some snow, and sells ONE hot dog. 6.pm, Sans goes to Undynes house and tells her "hey undyne, I was lookin for food in the dumpster, and I found this neat movie, you wanna watch with me and paps?" Undyne says "Idk, what tupe of movie is it" Sans: "it says its an adventure and action movie call-" and Undyne responds "IM IN". He teleports to Alphys's lab, and says "hey, doc alphys, wanna see this neat lil movie, says its called jumanji, Im watching with paps and undyne" to which Alphys responds: "Sure, just lrt me get ready" and Sans says: "you have till 7:00". He then gets home and tells Papyrus, telling him Alphys and Undyne will come, and after being slightly annoyed, Paps agrees, and Sans naps till its time. At 7:00, he teleports Alphys and Undyne to the couch and then they see the movie. Theyre all so invested, and during the climax, Paps says:"SANS, DID YOU SEE THAT? THAT WAS AMAZING" and then realizes Sans slept through the movie. "SANS, WAKE UP YOU LAZY BONES, YOURE GONNA MISS THE BEST PART!" and he finishes it. Sans says:"im tired, i'm gonna sleep" and sleeps till the next day arrives. The next day, happen the events of Undertale.
Hope this sounds like an accurate depiction of Sans
Sans is supposed to be a symbol of the crushing nyhillistic nature of his world, the fact that you can do anything and the game can only react
A lesson about story telling in the form of an undertale fandom video.
Very much apreaciate it.
i dont feel like I worded it correctly
we can all agree that Asgore is slept on
Your VA acting is really good and your explanations make lots of sense
Drama!
Romance!
Bloodshed!
Even to the point where you wrote the most edgy story of all time!
Am not sure if Asgore actually knows or if he just nodded out of confusion but selecting „yes“ at the after-reset version of the pie question Toriel outright confirms that the other humans could reset, wich probably just means that all of the humans eventually gave up.
Also PAPYRUS‘ emotional intelligence was also forgotten alongside his puzzle making skill. Also he clearly knows about that time and space stuff.
And Alphys has the multiverse theory.
(In my opinion Alphys should be the common character that travels through the multiverse despite her not being in my top 5 characters.)
Also don’t forgor all the fanfic where chara is a sociopath or psychopath or something. They are just a bit less depressed than Flowey. Between being „not the best person“and literally psycho is a HUGE difference. People can laugh things off in real life you know.
Also sans doesn’t vividly remember the timelines that came before.
Fr.
Asgore is just theorised to know about them although given he has access to them and he seemingly allowed experiments being done of them, he does likely know what happened.
Papyrus is low-key underrated, he knows about the time and space stuff that Sans has, this mainly just says that Sans has a bit of Space-Time Manipulation going for him which makes sense given how big the Black room is but Sanses actual room is not anywhere as big.
Alphys has the theory of other Universes being out there rather than the Multiverse Theory although it is interesting.
Fr😭people villainise Chara as if there aren't any other characters that are more suitable, and if there aren't then just make a new villain like how GT did with Betty. Fanon Chara is literally just "Kill, Reset, kill, Reset, kill" in an endless cycle meanwhile in the game after only 2 genocides they say to take another path😭I really do hope Deltarune fixes them ngl since they already have a few implications of being in it.
Yeah he only gets deja vu like everyone else, the only thing that differentiates him is that he has more knowledge about timelines, not that he remembers them.
Overall, a valid comment.
Sans is aware of resets but doesn't remember them, it's shown in the no mercy route. I don't think he even gets the deja vu feeling that most get
@Hollow (Trapped in a elevator) well actually there is proof that sans can remember resets but it's all up to interpretation
@sonicthehedgehog1606 Any "proof" that suggests he actually remembers Resets is misinterpretation, the most you're getting is deja vu.
fanon dust sans : after I have finally killed the kid I'm finally free to kill people
canon dust sans : I killed the HUMAN, now I can rest off this.. wait.. I'M ALONE!?.
Sans is actually one of the only characters that DOESN’T remember resets he is only good at reading your expressions
Eh. That only on how you interpret things
@@sonicthehedgehog1606 that look on your face that’s the expression of someone who’s died thrice in a row
- sans
I disagree with this personally. The amount of people acting like this is fact, when it is something more up to interpretation nowadays is something I find odd.
Sans is really good at reading people and expressions, but to be able to read how many times u died from expressions I just don’t personally find possible. Sans is just being purposely vague and opaque about stuff, because that is Sans as a character, and because genus careful and smart.
This is very true. I find sans very overated as well, and that's why alphys is my favorite. The opinion I most get hated for is that Sans is not powerful and that he is very weak because 1HP & 1AT and the community makes him have like ♾️HP for example: last breath where sans somehow saw gaster and got "powers " its pretty stupid in my opinion.
Another opinion I get hated for is Chara is NOT the villain
You’re “opinions” are actually facts, you shouldn’t be hated for knowing the characters.
Fax
That's why I like GT Sans's showings or Canon Dust Tale's, in Glitchtale, especially S2 you see that even though he's very powerful with the advent of Determination he still gets slammed by Betty or Bete, however you spell it. Only having two fights where Sans with DT actually shines is with his fight with Chara and Void Gaster back in S1. Then, at DustTale due to how much power he's accumulated due to his LV, he doesn't dodge and instead takes hits, eventually dying due to that big mistake. Easily having moments where we could've died if not for the kindness shield or if he actually dodged and stalled enough to end us. (I don't actually know if Evan's game is canon or not, but take it how you will.)
Same I agree with everything you say toriel is my favourite character shes also one of the lowest favourite character of the main bosses like undyne asgore sans etc
@@mastercrimas9163 same GT sans isn't like those that he can remember resets but a glitch made him remember resets and he knows his limits so he doesn't use all of his power because he will melt this is why I like glitchtale sans instead of fanon sans
100% agreed, holy crap finally someone sensible in this fandom.
Give me an example and i'll say if it's really true
@@narrativeless404 abysstale, a lot of misc content you can easily find on youtube, Gaster Sans, Flowerfell, Reaper itterations.
I'm gonna be honest, a decent amount of this is kind of exaggerated, like alot, and the part of people forgetting papyrus is a master of puzzles, the joke in the game is the fact he makes decently easy puzzles with him exaggerating how hard and well made they are.
@@narrativeless404ok this is gonna be a fact or false: every character can remember a reset beides sans
@@f4milytime475 As a slight sense of deja-vu, everyone can remember it, not that they can really make use of it
But only Flowey and Frisk/Chara can fully remember
So i guess it's *yesn't*
Personally, I like to think of a sans fight if sans never made a promise, and for balancing the game, sans only does one damage, has no karma, the attacks arent insanely fast, and I consider sans as the lazy bones he is, so the fight is fair, he doesnt go all out, he puts minimal effort. And THATS (imo) an accurate depiction of sans
To be fair he does try towards the end of the genocide fight, and unlike what most people have begun to think, he isn't just a "haha funni guy" in the genocide route, especially with the fact he literally summons a total of 100 blasters in his final/survive this attack, and the Fandom cries if sans uses over 10 blasters in an animation.
Edit: he also avoids interacting with you if you kill papyrus, and that is the main focus of his intent to fight you, showing that he cares alot, but doesn't try to show it.
@@The_eggy_one Yea, but he probably wont be trying hard if you fight him after the ruins, It will probably be an easy fight, also beacause of power scaling. In this "Alternate Universe" were sans didnt promise to not kill you, he might as well be counted as a mini boss
Unless you started genocide, in which case he wont appear and youll get the canon fight
@@Snt1_ he'd probably have acted the same, but without all the helpful dialog, like he blue bones thing, and he would probably just chill.
@@The_eggy_one You'll have probably learnt blue stop signs from experience (Doggo and thus hypothetical sans fight)
@@Snt1_ yes, but he still tries to be helpful in that regard, all I was trying to say.
Ok this isn't about the video itself, but I love the podcast vibe. I have an "Unofficial" Certified Addiction to Undertale, said by my therapist friend. I always try to make my life about Undertale. I only listen to Undertale music, mainly play Undertale games, and always drop money on undertale stuff (Deltarune included in all of this) and I LOVE this channel. I needed a channel that talks about undertale/Aus and this is it. The podcast vibe makes it better as it feels that I am just vibing to a podcast, but about my favorite thing ever. Keep up the good work, I love all of it 👍
my god i forgot that sans calls you a furry... im very sad that isn't joked about more in this fandom.
sans fighting with his full will of destroying you:
asgore not trying to really murder but he was going slow at you :
fandom : yep sans is stronger
also asgore destroying being able to destroy frisk in 1 hit if frisk did actually make him angry:
@Yo na
sans can kinda attack you in the menu
while asgore can can outright destroy a part of you menu ,not to hinder but to make it impossible to spare him because it would a rather easy to do so. if he wanted he could also outright destroy the fight button before the fight as well but chooses not to.
asirel only with his STRONGEST FORM can destroy the fight menu buttons...
@@chongwillson972 remember one thing asgore did try but didn't do his best attack
2:30 Sans knows about resets and He can learn that you have the ability to reset. Flowey actually knows when you reset just like the player. The rest of the characters get deja vus from resets but they don’t know about that
Only us, Flowey and Chara remember resets, Sans just has deja vus like every other character, the only difference is that he knows they exist from his (and possibly Alphy's, making her just as aware) research
Oh, also Asgore knows they exist but whether he fully remembers is debatable, he probably doesn't
@@stmp4160 that’s what I said
@@thesquidi144 You said that Sans knows about resets exactly
Yes, he's more aware of them, that's why he makes those jokes when you die to him
@@narrativeless404 Sans is aware of them that what I meant when I said that sans knows about resets I didn’t say Sans remembers resets. Flowey remembers resets and Chara knows about everything you erase Floweys memories in a true pacifist and in a genocide run
sans : destroying a pillar
fandom : yep he destroyed goku
fanon dusttale : sans GRRR angry
canon dusttale : sans has had it with your shit (because you did literally 327 genocides so sans is now bored not even angry he has gone mad over how much he gets slashed)
While a lot of this is right, I would like to add something important.
While in a normal AU, it is very easy not to go into a Sans-centric territory, in a Multiversal AU, it is more complicated. After all, to make the Multiverse feel like an actual living place, you need to recruit AUs and Out!Codes, and for most of the latter, they are Sanses. You can't do much against that, you are community-dependant when making a Multiversal AU. Making every character all by yourself is also a bad idea as you will most likely end up underdeveloping characters. Of course, if you try hard enough, you can find some obscure AUs and Out!Codes that you can use, but it's not that easy and it is a part of the process of Multiverse AU making I barely see anyone talking about.
Inverted Fate IS the best AU
Agreed
Eh,depends on people opinions,I find epictale better
Dusttale might be my favorite but fallback deserves to be recognized (despite Dusttale being my favorite AU I do know that teachtale has a point)
I didn't know Podcasts were an entirely new feature. That's pretty cool.
What about fallback? If you don’t know what it is it’s an Undertale AU that takes place after a pacifist route, and the humans don’t accept the monsters and start another war and kill all of them, and Frisk is the last one defending the monsters, despite all of the monsters being dead
The song is called meglo strength of will, this AU is very unpopular so it doesn’t have much information, if you want to look it up then type fallback Undertale AU
Meta knight from kirby right back at ya! gave us a sans podcast
That's bad just because the other characters are mostly ignored
Underverse is a great example of this
Especially the modern Underverse, after the 0.5
Like literally, X-Chara was at least something that had plot relavance but isn't a Sans
At least Gaster have a place in the spot light
Gaster is extremely more overrated
Sans is honestly less overrated than Gaster is, Gaster has barely info on him other than the info we get from the gaster follower's
Knowledge about gaster be like: he existed, was scientist
What proof that sans and gaster are related?
5:59 because of all these neutral endings I started to stream all 91 of them
Btw fun fact: the "Murder Sans helps other Universes or smth else" is not canon, it's stated as Official but not canon or relevant to the story at all + almost everything that was mentioned in some of the DustTale videos that were made here are also only official and not canon to the AU, Ask-DustTale isn't doing much about the AU as well other than saying "this is official, that is official, these are official" and shipping "DustArd" aka Dust!Sans x Fell!Sans which is btw, Official to the AU as well, thank god it's not canon, but anyways, as I said, a lot of stuff for the AU which you've mentioned back in past videos are only official and not canon to the AU, Murder canonically never had any interactions with any AU's, yes, AT's of him, maybe but him by himself? Nah, he's always trapped in his AT trying to kill the human or trapped for eternity until the human comes back
Finally someone realize murder didn’t defeat the human by becoming emo 😂 also I think it’s more believable for murder to be a helper of dream than a servant/slave of nightmare
@@bruhntastic3021 true but it's also official that he's not a servant for anyone, not canon, official, he's stated to have actually fought against Nightmare due to him not accepting his deal, which is why Nightmare forced him to join in, why exactly? God knows tbh, he already had Horror and Killer, and UTF said recently that it's possible for Nightmare to pursuad Insanity to join him as well, so basically Murder is only there cause yes, those stuff are still official, which is sorta half-canon of sorts since they came out from the creator, but they aren't relevant or canon to the story of DustTale and it's AU
@@NoOneImportant233 I think nightmare would want murder bc of the negative aura around murder so yea also I believe fell would be one of nightmare servant as fell are filled with negativity and (fell is evil while murder is supposed to be broken/fallen hero I guess )
@@bruhntastic3021 fell isn't evil, atleast not anymore in the Fandoms eyes. He's just edgy. He wouldn't, say, genocide his entire underground several times to see if anything changes or to become stronger like Killer or Dust. There's no reason he would go along with Nightmare willingly, he'd try to betray them at any moment if he is forced.
@@NoOneImportant233 I don't see what your crying about. It isn't Canon, but it's official, I for one appreciated that info about his possibly joining core frisk and helping other aus, it's something I didn't know and it's an interesting take. Though it's very unlikely as Murder only cares about his AU, just like him being forced into the Nightmare crew I can see it as a possibility that gives a new angle to Murder. Him being one of my favorite AUs.
Holy hell TeachTale Podcast real!
Sans canonical does not give a fuck if papyrus dies or not he only cares if you slaughter the entirety of monster kind
Sans isn't that cold harted
(Dt) have a murder sans who does help our universe version of sans named DT (determination) sans a video will be made soon if you are interested
(Dt) edit: when we aren’t being a lazybones hehe
'Or even Walter White' had me dead bro
Hey you should talk about Dreemurr Reborn because it is how the Undertale fandom started.
TGV sans isn't actually sans he's actually some god level being that took the form and name of sans like how dream and nightmares mom took inspiration of swap sans and made dream and nightmares body based off of swap sans
The hell is a tgv sans?
@@alternateam6315 true Godverse I think it’s prob Godverse but no characters op for the sake of being op
@@alternateam6315 u tell me, ur the “tgv” guy
@@M4Xymo even if I used to be really relevant for tgv, I never head any bullshit such as "Tgv sans"
@@alternateam6315 fair enough
I agree and so i will make all mu aus have amazing stories and make the character of sans have less focus in my aus :)
As anyone who uses Internet, I was mildly aware of Sans pre-Undertale obsession, but not so much. I finally looked into Undertale last year with very little knowledge of the game and expecting a lot of the skeleton. (I didn't even know it was an RPG lol).
Just as when I watched Attack on Titan and Death Note, I came in expecting the most popular character to be everywhere, the protagonist or second lead. And nope! Tertiary charactes with a couple centric-eps and some cameos. Same with Sans, but less. I'd argue that Papyrus should've gotten more rep...! And then I saw Megalovania, and I understood it. Sans' only character trait, Megalovania.
Yeah, I see it, but I really don't get why in spite of being overrated he's still like, the main character. Heck, Underverse sold me on the idea that Gaster *should* be the protagonist; super ysterious, more wiggle room to invent a personality, the theory of him being everywhere all the time? Perfect reality bender protagonist!
If not, Frisk! I like Core Frisk. The entire point of the game is that we're reality benders that Save, Reset and Reload the game to our hearts' content.
Or, or maybe Undyne; cool fish lady, of the few characters that get Determination to fight us, much much physically stronger than any monster we know off (bench-pressing heavy stuff). I think it's unfair that "Battle Against a True Hero" got overshadowed by Megalovania, when it's just as emotionally meaning, just as difficult, and THE point of no return on your descent into evil, plus her ship gives her something to do, unlike the Sanses that got to Onceler levels of shipping.
What about Flowey/Asriel?! He's canonically reset so many times that he's just bored of everything and wants to destroy it all with us. It's the perfect angstfest for content creation. What about a universe with Genocide but he escapes and tries to collect the human SOULs to stop Chara? What about a True Pacifist where Frisk comes back to revive him or something? What if, in one of his many resets he encountered Gaster, (time-travel shenaningans, yadda yadda, plot, fanon, some Deus ex Machina...) and joined forces to create a new world... or something.
It is true that humans who fell into the underground had the power to reset because Toriel had a feeling of deja vu with other humans, she talks about it to Frisk if we reset.
Sans is my favorite character in Undertale and, as you can tell by my pfp, Dusttale is my favorite au. I like the concept and the story of Dust/Murderer but everytime I see anything that has to do with him it's always dark and edgy, it's always the same. Sans gets tired of dying and watching his loved ones die so he kills them himself then after so many times he becomes completely insane and just kills for fun. I just want the story to continue and see him actually grow like some of your examples, like guts or one of my favorite characters, John from Un-ordinary.
He was constantly bullied for not having any powers for years and once he finally got his he started to become just like his bullies then after getting punished and shown the error of his ways he moved to a new home and started a new life where he could start over and grow, without using the powers that caused his trouble, and it actually worked. Yes he still had his moments but it worked out for him.
Thought it might not happen anyway time soon I hope the fandom could actually make a story with progress in it, whether or not Sans is the MC
(I literally wrote this comment right when i heard "sans can remember resets" and then played the video and heard you say basically exactly what i typed here, whoopsie, i still do believe all this though)
Sans actually can't remember resets, he just knows they exist from "our reports" about "the anomaly", which is flowey, or at least was flowey, but sans thinks it's the human, (and he's technically right but his reports are showing the stuff that flowey did since you could go a whole run without messing with the timeline)
either way, every character has a suspicion that they've already been through something if you go back, Toriel feeling like you know something she doesn't if you've killed her before, Papyrus wondering if he "knows that human", Undyne remembering Frisk's want to become friends, and Asgore nodding sadly when you tell him he's killed you, and i'll actually come back to Asgore later cause he's super interesting
every character has a sense of deja vu, the difference that sans makes is that he knows that there's something up, and when he gets that sense, he knows it's actually real and doesn't just brush it off
he capitalises on it, which is how he "knows", he just studies the human
the only character that ACTUALLY full on knows is Flowey because he has enough determination to remember, since before he had enough determination to control the timeline
But, i have a pretty strong theory that Asgore also knows about the timeline, and this is because he seems pretty understanding when you tell him he's killed you before and we also know that the other humans had determination, since that's what Alphys extracts to eventually inject into monsters
My theory is that, before Flowey was made, the other humans came through and had the power to control the timeline, and when Asgore killed them, they kept coming back, and Asgore, of course got that deja vu feeling as all the characters do
But i believe that one of those humans before they were permanantly killed and lost the will to continue, told Asgore about their control over the timeline, that they can go back, that when he kills them, they come back over and over, perhaps as a way to intimidate him, perhaps as a way to reason with him, we don't know, but it makes too much sense that they would've told him when considering his reaction when we tell him
just a small theory of mine
This video was great , and it is great since i havemt finished watching it yet
But i agree with everything you have said , but i wsnt to clarify just one thing.
Dear humans , yall are forgetting the stats and power those boss monsters had.
Toriel and Asgore are the only boss monsters in the Underground , only their soul was able to hold itself after their physical forms getting destroyed
They are much stronger , and very much able than SANS
Sans was only strong because of his passive , a perfect ability for the judge.
Karma , the more deeds you do... the more judgement you will get
We litteraly eradicated the entire underground , it was only natural for him to be so hard for us to kill.
That wouldnt be the case in the normal run , kill a few monsters , face off Sans.. he surely will be really easy than his Genocide self.
Asgore and Toriel on the other hand , they held back their power a LOT.
Toriel was only testing us and had no intention to kill us. Of she wanted to , she would very likely kill us on the spot.
Same with Asgore , he TRIED to kill us but we softened him off. He was very tired from all this fighting and wanted everything to be over. He had blood of several kinds on his hand and this was enough to completely weaken him to the point where he would have a breakdown, but hr had to stay strong for his people. He had to do what he did , he started it and gave his people another hope. He couldnt just let it all go away and sll that effort be in vain. Our effort on stopping the fight softened him , thats how we were able to defeat him. Asgorr was able to remember every and EVERY RESET , Save or Load.
Its only natural for boss monsters to own this kind of ability.
So my point is , Asgore and Toriel are the strongest monsters in the entire underground. Sans was called the weakest for a reason , and so he was. Papyrus , Undyne and even Alphys had some sort of better stats than him.
Sans's fight was only to represent that Determanistic Nihilism , Nihilism can be overcomed!
Yall cant just smoke on my bois like this.
Good day.
How do you get the ending where Pierce gets a plane to destroy you?
i really dont mind. i actually like it, for the simple fact that even you said he is the ´´weakest`` one, and i think sans is most interesting one if you dont count Gaster or Asriel of course, Alphys i simply dont care about her.
I think a lot of people think sans is really strong because he is the hardest boss, at least that is what i think, i never defeated sans i wasnt able to go past him (and i kinda already knew the ending so i simply gave up) and asgore like...i defeated him in one try LOL
it kinda just gives the illusion that Sans is one of the strongest characters. and of course he also is the only character that can dodge (from what i remember at least).
i think another option would be Asriel, i dont think there is a au where Asriel is the protag, and i think it would be really cool to see.
"but let me tell you:
THIS ISN'T A MATURE STORY"
*LE GASP*
lol
This video is good and all. There are many valid and agreedable point, but at 21:01 it is just false
Or to be fair
It basically refers to 2020-2021 true godverse, ignoring basically what Tgv is now
Also I don't get really the Sts image who was put here, as he does not have anything to do with True Godverse or 90% of the video
Just wondering, what are your thoughts on Deltatraveler?
12:07 don't forget, every AU Sans gets shipped with another AU Sans. So who we shipping Stay At Home!Sans with?
Yup
well I like the HEADCANON-ed Sans. Bc you know
If you figured this out by checking on the internet, I will sub this. And I have seen him many times on the internet, also I have seen Can on Sans and Fan on Sans
Tbf, in aus, I don’t give much of a shit, as long as the mc is well written, sans or not, I don’t care and in many cases as AlphaTale/Error/AfterTale/Handplates and others sans is well written and thas all i care about.
Writing>character look and powers.
Yes powers too, who cares if the character is hella strong as long as the writing is ok, like I ain’t gonna judge a character by its power level tbh, or if it’s a skeleton or not, AUs r rarely well written, let the well written be, even if they have Sans as the main character
I love how our opinion is exactly the same
Yep, he was not the hero in undertale.
he was a coward who had to let others die so he could get stronger.
He's not even that strong, asgore is stronger so is paps,
He's just difficult, that's really it.
Ok not ALL at's/aus are bad yes alot are garbage, but there are alot of good grounded ones too.
Yes even lewd ones.
I cannot say which one but I will say if you actually TRY to read it it's not bad.
Is there garbage ohhh yes absolutely, but not everything is trash.
Chinatale and tubertale come to mind.
I mean this is stuff I've been saying SINCE LAUNCH, and I got told to "stfu you "tard" "[paraphrasing but you get the point]
are you gonna make a Discord some day?
Fallen down is the best, change my mind
Damn you hate the fandom so much and me too I hate fanon sans and it’s extremely cringy
Also i want to ask do u hate dark story or is it bc it’s the same story
I dont hate Dark Storys Batman The Cult and Lisa The Painfull are great Dark Storys, since there put there Main Protagonist into situation where there showed there true self, and also talked about unplessend topics in a Mature way. These Storys also makes us Appreciate our Save world and make us Appreciate it once again.
But i can't take an Undertale AU seriously when the Story is always the same, because i start to stop caring, i don't care that Sans once again lost everyone he Loved, idont care that Sans killed everyone, and i dont care that he became Mad, since all of this Happened so many times already.
The only thing that can make me care once again if the Story was good if it had a Messages and if it's not the same Story with just a different twist.
@@teachtale9214 then I want to ask u something of course if u have no problem with it but first do u have tumblr
@@bruhntastic3021 no i dont have a Tumblr account
@@teachtale9214 oh ok then I wanted to ask u to look at au called undercharge it’s so different than most aus as sans isn’t the Mc but actually there’s no mc every character is their own mc with their own story and stuff
i get frustrated when there's no way to spare sanses in fan games if i make one he will be sparable HE ISNT A MAD MAN is some timelines
Sans in my opinion got overrated due to the fandoms love for the character.
I love Power scaling and story
like Alphatale
Or TGV
I like making characters op that are not sans.
Yes I like making Gaster and chara a MC
Did you say ich meine
He did he is German
Tbh. There's nothing wrong with sans being a main character if the story is good. Hell it doesn't matter what people do as long it has good writing then i can't complain.
Vidéo gasteltale sans yas or no ?
I just see every version of Sans or Sans AU's as like a copy of the original AU or original Undertale. In every AU are little chainges. Like og Murder/Dust stays in his AU/AT for intornety, while an other version/copy met other AU's/ AT's.
And this is for litterely EVERY SINGAL AU/MULTIVERSE OUT THERE.
Even my version of this AU's aren't gonna be canon, because the AU's them selfs aren't canon themselfs anymore, their copies of a copy.
And even if you try to be as canon as posseble, it's never gonna be canon, bc the fact that you, yourself, didn't created the AU itself makes everything that happens in this AU/Multiverse non-canon anyway.
It only can be canon if you, yourself, are the Creater of this AU/Multiverse itself. If it's your *version* of an AU from an other Creater, nothing you do will be canon to it, annway.
While this video is right in many aspects,there are wrong stuffs
First of all,Dust/Murder and Horror are not edgy,Dust is just somewhat insane and even then he's not edgy,nor is he overpowered,in fact he never won against his human. As for Horror,I don't get how you can call him edgy when he's just hungry,aside from that he's the same as his canon self. As for Killer he's the pinnacle of edgyness,no need to correct anything(same for insanity)
Inverted fate is a good au,although it isn't the only one(in my opinion epictale is better)
As for the godverse part,it has changed a lot,now the characters have actual stories and interesting writing
Overall, this video was the truth about the undertale fandom,although there were a few mistakes here and there,it was still an enjoyable watch,W video
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While i do disagree with lost of the points he made its overall a decent video
This what looking at fandom sans does to chad
I remember that one time where I did the happy ending then said sigh...well done let's delete the game (-⌣-)
The true ending.
Why is Horror!sans in the bad sanses?!! He isn't even bad, just hungry and screwed over by the human. Murder time trio?!!!! Only only people he's killed is the royal guard and Aliza, in self defence and hunger, EVEN PAPYRUS IS MORE MURDEROUS THAN HIM!!! The Horror!sans story is so good and original, he's not some edgy, murderous sans!!! for some reason he's immortal in cannon because of his eyebeing in the core and the fact that he's already dead. That's the only thing I have against horror!sans. Also killer sans, why murder time trio, he doesn't even want to kill the human. Dust!sans, HE DOESN'T REMEMBER RESETS AT ALL!!! He's told about it. I don't like insanity sans though.
It was never clarified if he is immortal or not. It was never stated that he actually died. He survived the ordeal some how but it has yet to be fully explained.
I never meant to be toxic in the comments, that is what i was trying to say to these people.
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11:07 the German part took over
Jk I was trolling, now no one finna know how I got these likes nor the 25 comments lmfao
you uh, do know that dating scene was mostly for jokes, plus the player is the one to start it up,
@@Metalicyt everyone who accepted it is as guilty as the scene even existing in the game
@@NoOneImportant233 dude it was just a joke it wasn't even supposed to be taking seriously
@@ahmedjoycesneakattacksquad5003 seems you found someone who takes it seriously then, same case with how many people take the Frans ship or Fontscest ships serious, they shouldn't exist, canon or not, Frans and Fontscest aren't canon, and Papyrus x Frisk shouldn't even have ever existed, but eh, thanks to Toby it does, I mean what should anyone expect? The fandom is filled with Pedophile's
@@NoOneImportant233 dude those ships are different than our date with papyruses in the game plus it's not like he kissed us or anything all we did with papyrus was giving each other compliments and that's it we don't even become a couple at the end of the date we become friends.
15:45 Guts the Goat 💪🗿
YES
Horror is not that bad to be honest its like the best of the edgy trio ( mtt ) finally a neutral run is used to start an undertale au story and he has a good story and its not only about him but people only remeber him and MAYBE undyne because " Uh uNdYne DiD tHe hOle iN tHe SkUlL oF sAnS aNd BeCoMe CraZy" that is just stupid
I’m the only one who thinks the pacifist ending is cooler.
whoever disliked the video is cringe and unrad.
You say the True
The hentai things tho now i really want to see this sans au.
Now I'm going to say something for which stones will fly at me, but I don't like most AUs. And Glitchtale can go to hell
*Overrated*
- I agree that sans is overrated since most of the fangames, stories, ocs are all about sans, and the most focus is on sans, doesn't mean i don't like him, it made me lose my interest on the aus and nothing is original.
*Stories*
- i don't know about story part, i mostly find interesting stories or concepts like Negativetale, dusttale, canon underfell, XTale, Undertale Something New, Dreamtale, etc. but the edgy part is something i haven't went deep on it.
*Main Focus And Originality*
- Even tho sans is the main focus on most of the aus but there's good ones that don't focus on him like Glitchtale. about the originality, there's good aus like dusttale it gave the fandom the idea of what if sans killed every monster to stop the human, which is not only this but it also introduces us Monsters Gaining LV Concept. Underfell, what if monsters believe the world is kill or be killed. Outertale, what if monsters live in the space. Underswap, swap everyone roles and keep most of their personalities. etc.
*Power Scaling*
- Power Scaling is actually important for the story, i don't mean with >1 character from undertale vs 1 character from alphatale< , what i mean is by knowing how strong the character is, how did they became this strong, and what's their limit, which is important for the story. i know this always results to people debating which character is stronger than that character [obviously it would]. Power scaling if done correctly can help spot inconsistencies within a work or help clear it up, it can help the viewer be more knowledgeable of a series they love because then they’d know how strong their favorite characters are.
*Fanon Versions*
- All i can think of great example is underswap, they made US Sans from Cool Guy to Toy R Us Child Toy and things went even deeper which i don't want to mention. sometimes Fanon Versions can be better than Canon AUs but it doesn't mean Fanon is better but it depends on how good the fanon au is.
that's all i have and see in the fandom, i haven't kept with the fandom because i lost my interest with the aus and original concepts, i don't blame people for not having original concepts since not everyone is creative.
Forgot to include inverted fate being one of the stories that don't focus on sans and give spotlight to all characters
bro sorry but sans is scientist because in his house , he has a book of joke and inside that book there is a book about quantum physic so it's canon that sans is a scientist lol
or at least, that he has scientific knowledge
Most of the this video seems like a YOU problem ans subjective opinion on the Fandom
my guy ya getting mad at fanfiction
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sans isint actualy the strongist charcter its undyne bc undyne has her undyne the undying phase and alots of hp the only reason why sans lost is bc his stam if ever cannon undyne and cannon sans cannon undyne will always win bc her attacks being hard to dodge if your not skilled enough sans whould get tierd and not deal any dmg to undyne bc undyne has tons of hp and tricky attacks that sans would have hard times dodgeing it and i think cannon sans has 1 hp so if he gets hit 1 time its game over for him and sans isint some sort of god or anything hes just a skeleton with magic attacks he cant come back he cant save or load he cant reaset or true reaset and he cant erase the timeline but if your saying whos the strongest charcter in undertale its chara bc chara and deal massive dmg always come back save and load true or normal resets and even delete the timeline i know she can delete the timeline bc she did you said to not erase this timeline so she can do it? and she does chara isint a bad person and the reason why she didnt fight back as a ghost in the gen route and become a human is bc chara had determination not frisk frisk only landid on the bed of flowers
(charas grave) and the dt from chara transperd to frisk bc frisk is the player so they need the dt to come back and try again as many times as they like so whos the main villien? not the humans but you the player they are the person that does gen nutral or pacfi
and chara even tells you that the true hero is undyne and chara
+ i hate sans lol my favorite character is asgore
Undyne can't be the strongest character because even Asgore is stronger than her even in Undying
Idk why you hate genocide sans stories, calling them "edgy". Sorry you hate conflict but you know it is what drives the plot, there are plenty of stories where noone dies and nothing happens on that Sans Comic Channel or whatever it's called but we don't talk about those because nothing happens. No conflict, no story.
Edit: Noones saying Horrortale Undyne is completely at fault...idk where you got that from...they are all victims of the circumstance and we get to see what they do to eachother, I don't even know what you meant by that.
Edit 2: Noone cares about deeper stories, is that why Underverse is like the most popular series in the undertale fandom?
First
Shut up
Yes i agree with you brah
I am quite new and have only been around for a few years and I thought because I had seen some videos that error sans was real !! this is so sad how stupid i was! I am now one
very similar opinion and I'm often very disappointed by MANY MANY comics or games.....It's actually almost pathetic! Unfortunately I have to say that I've never played the game that directly because I don't have a console or pc 😢.Playing fan games is not a decision for that