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- First bashes done with the ARRMA Kraton 4s and I really like how it drives. It handles like a dream on the ground and in the air. As you can see, the first run didn't go perfectly for me. We had a break off a medium size backflip. I'll detail this below. I break a lot of RCs and am used to it happening when doing flips - but usually only for missed flips.
First off, I was sent this Kraton by Horizon Hobby to review, but will stress that I do not get paid by them or anyone for reviews. As always, I show what happens and give fair and honest reviews for you. There is no perfect RC and if someone says so in their reviews, I'd question it - especially and RTR. These are assembled by real people and there is always room for error during that process. My slipper was set looser than I would choose for it out of box, but other RTRs I've received have come too tight at times. So you will need to make some minor adjustments to tune it them to your liking.
The first break that you see in the video is partly due to the rotation during landing. Because I was still accelerating, it caused it to hit hard on landing. Should it have broke? Probably not. But you watch full size monster trucks break axles on backflips depending on how they land. The new stock part I bought took much harder hits and it fine. After inspecting the part, it looks like the plastic hadn't cured quite right or something because it was rough.
With any RC you plan to launch, you can usually expect for A-Arms or C-hubs to break at some point. Some cars I've even broke rims. It happens and is luckily an easy fix. When you do replace them, there are options out there like RPM which many in the hobby see as an upgrade. Their plastics are very durable. When I bough the replacement arm for this, I put it on to continue testing it, but also bought RPM arms that I plan to put on because I do like them on my bashers because they are flexible.
I'll also be showing how the truck handles and what it can take with those arms on. They are a less than $30 upgrade to replace all 4 lower arms. But for a truck that handles this well and is so much fun to jump, I think it will add to the overall durability and take it to the next level for a small investment.
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I regularly soak all my Plastic parts & tires in WD40 while they're sitting in the sun, it keeps plastic and rubber... hydrated, for lack of a better term.
The effect on tires (especially on the road) is instantly noticeable and it keeps plastics rods, arms and such from drying out and going brittle.
And its a great way to but a nice shine on everything.
Thanks for the Movie, Bro 👍🏻
Just wanna add your definitely my favorite channel and you really show the cars off well👍🏻👍🏻😀
Thanks Mike! That means a lot. I try my best to show all aspects. No RC is perfect. This one is already a favorite because it drives and jumps so well. I did change to RPM arms after a few runs because I just like them a lot and have had great luck with them.
CCxRC true man each RC has its strength and weakness that’s what makes it fun bro! Yeah I’ll definitely try the RPM arms! I need to upgrade the diff arms too
I’m a little late to the party but.. the wd40 deal has been around for at least the 20 years I’ve been playing. I”ve never heard about it contributing to flexibility. That’s awesome. It does displace water, hence the wd and makes cleanup a breeze. I use it after every outing. Great channel, PEACE!!!
Some plastics it seems to help, but not all. It is best for cleaning and tire grip.
Great stuff, enjoying the videos!
As expected, from Kraton at this point, a fast and fun rig for sure.. But if I was a guy looking for my first RC, and see you breaking an A arm that easily.. I would be concerned... I was a little surprised bud. But it sure held up after that, for a continued run.. Nice run Tony and as always I enjoy the Commentary on it as you drive
Loving the way this truck drives/handles! Not nearly as clumsy as the Maxx from the looks of it. Throw the Maxx shocks and torque-biasing drive on this and you'd have the ultimate basher! 👊🏼👊🏼
Nice bash! You got some good jumps in and it handled well. I can never keep the slipper clutch set in my 3s, lol!
Great video again Tony. That Kraton 4S does take a beating. Big difference on the WD-40. Can't for the next video.
Very nice bash brother.. I really like this truck.. almost a perfect one!
Yup. It’s fantastic to drive. Great control
How long you can bash with on 4s 5000mah batterie?
Nice bash Tony!!!
Been playing with the Kraton 6s and I’m shocked how fun that rc is first 10 hrs non stop bashing it and it’s a beast going out today as well so cool I did three videos on it pretty fun
That’s awesome
Ni c e you got 10 hrs , tonys about on track how i make out w my kraton , i ts mostly my fault if you send it , and drive hard going break s...the kraton pushes arrma line , mainly bc of weight and planted so you able push it
Great video! Is the stock radio as bad as others say?
Great vid!😁
Do you adjust the slipper on the typhon 3s the same?
I’m looking to purchase my first RC Car and am between the Arrma Kraton 4s and the Team Associated Rival MT10. I’m leaning more towards the MT10. Any input?
Do you think 2 2s lipo batteries or one 4s would be best
Great video
I had slipper issues i just redlocktited the screw 1 turn loosen
Hi mate, yeah definitely strange it broke so easily, I have seen these put up with a heck of a lot worse. My granite blx is also a beast, the more I use arrma the more I love them. Happy rcing 👍
Bought one myself, how's the durability been? RPM arms all ok? Nice tip to adjust the slipper clutch. I'm running on 2x2s 5000mah 35c Lipos. Tyres balloon like crazy when turning on 100% throttle. Great fun, although the tyres have poor grip on lose earth. May well change to badlands. Keep posting.
Awesome video 👍🏻 it's a great truck
I’ve been having so much fun with it. I have several more videos recorded with it that I need to catch up on
CCxRC Cool we want more videos 👍🏻
Nicely done 👍!! Alot of the Kratons have grease on the slipper pads. Give it a look when you get a chance. Don't forget the slot for the spur gear .... 😁👍
Thanks for the reminders!
And red or blue locktite the slipper screw mine was driving me nuts lol 1 turn loosen instead of 1.25 make this thing a complete beast
So what's the WD40 trick, new to rc cars and this has me intrigued!
nice video and grat info
Hey all. Awesome video, definitely something to learn here. I am new to RC trucks (have an Arrma Granite) and have a quick, probably "noob" question... I noticed that just like in the video, when I push my car by hand (unpowered) there is the same grinding noise coming out from the "gear-box". I did open it to check on the pinion and the spur... and they both look perfectly fine. Is this grinding noise just normal (caused by the friction) or it should be like super smooth and quiet? Help would be super appreciated :)
K A I received mine a couple of days ago and it’s the same way, It don’t make the noise when it actually drives so I’m sure it’s normal. However I’m having issues with my slipper clutch staying tight, after about half a battery it comes loose and I have to tighten it again. Gonna be shooting some emails later to see if I can get it replaced under warranty
I definitely want to get one of them arrma kraton 4s it seems to be more stable than the xmaxx was not Shor on witch one but yes it will be kraton 4s very nice video thanks for all your help thanks Eddie 😀👍
Nice idea with the WD40, soaking the plastic parts. Beautiful forward flip👍
Recently sold my Outcast 4s to a neighbor that I just got into RC and then I bought a Maxx. Enjoyed that for a little over a month and did all kinds of upgrades. But I started missing Arrma. So I just sold my Maxx yesterday and bought a used highly upgraded Kraton 4s. Cant wait to get it. I have some Zeee 7000mah 100C 4s packs that are gonna make the thing rip for sure.
I do have a question. Whats your opinion on the STX2? Ive never even used one despite having several Arrmas that came with it. I always yanked it first thing and put a Flysky FS-GT5 receiver in them. The one I just bought has the Spektrum included, but I am most likely swapping it out with the Flysky again.
I don't love the STX2. I don't hate it like some people, but if you have the option to run something better....I would. I'm getting ready to fix my Maxx to sell. Not my style.
So if da clutch lose it won’t wheelie?
Are you driving this all stock
Definitely should buy some better tires Tony. I recommend getting the backflip lps that come on the 4s outcast. They are a little lower profile than the 6s outcast wheels which is nice. I have them on my 6s kraton and love them.
Waiting FOR my kraton
It looks like it handles pretty good, lower center of gravity or at least lower than the Maxx👍🏼
It handles really well. Like you said, that is due to it sitting so low. Great for bashing.
Hi just wondering if you have a vid on the wd40 as I would like to know more thanks
Do i need THE xT 90 female plug
Man that was a slight knock that broke the rear A arm. Apart from that factor, the slipper clutch, and the plastic driveshafts. It's a decent truck. Just bought my 2nd and the 4s Outcast.
Yeah. It’s like monster jam though, depending on the rotation speed at the end of the flip it can end their run with a break or bounce and let continue. My indecisiveness because I wasn’t planning to flip or bash led to a late rotation and increased G-Force on impact. I also feel like the factory may not have cured that plastic properly. Regardless, the new one took some big hits and kept going for me. Already run and recorded more videos with it. I’m loving this truck. Even raced it yesterday at Diggers Dungeon.
When they put a sticker that says Don't just bash. Blast. And then... 05:36 Lot of people had the same breakage and was where the hinge pin gets the arm. I will give a chance to the Arrma 6S platform but I'm done with the 3S/4S platform. No hate, I hope they get better QC in the future.
What does the wd40 do the plastics?
Hope you did not put wd 40 on the driveshaft if they fail you might know why. Mine are 5 months old and still working like they should
Can I use a 15C discharge as well as 75C discharge 4S batteries on my KRATON 4S?? What does the discharge affect??
4S 15C Lipo Bat: hobbyking.com/pt_pt/turnigy-graphene-professional-10000mah-4s-15c-lipo-pack-w-xt90.html
4S 75C Lipo Bat: hobbyking.com/pt_pt/turnigy-graphene-6000mah-4s-75c-lipo-pack-w-xt90.html
Easy fix for Arrma leaky shocks (replace plastic washer that is between the 2x 8mm O'rings with 3x 6/7mm silicone O'rings) 👍 😜
I believe the shocks have been updated now on the new versions and don't leak as bad anymore..
Those A-arm hinge pin sites need redesigned. Casting comes together in the worst spot. My parts box is full of new extras and the graveyard baggie.
Nice video sir,,, just subbed.
Absolutely
Only issue i had with this truck was the controller, there was a slight delay on it and did replace the servo with a 27kg large torque ecoboost one.
So far, really liking the rig
Nice servo. I use them in a lot of rigs.
CCxRC thank you, yeah glad I got it replace. Took me a while to put it back as it was upside down & couldn’t work it out 1st 😂😂😂.
Yeah. Had that issue with the Senton. Realized it was easier to remove the entire electronics tray to reinstall it.
CCxRC yeah, that’s right.
Stoopingcrane it is quite bad tbh, replace my one with flysky gt3b (I think that’s what it is called). Now, it’s a lot more controlled in the air
How's your Kraton 4s holding up? Despite my many upgrades, my Kraton 6s and Outcast 6s break all the time. My plastic chassis Traxxas maxx, xmaxx 8s ad Redcat Kaijus break way less. I'm honestly considering getting a Kraton 4s for that reason. I see issues with the slipper clutch though 🤔
What breaks on the Kraton and Outcast? Once I removed the shims from the Front A-arms, I was golden with my outcast. Those driveshafts used to pop all the time. Now no issues.
Mine is holding up alright with the RPM arms. Just little things lik the screw that pulled out in this video. Easy fix.
@@CCxRC Went with the K8S instead. Thanks 😂👍
Hey bud question for you. 4 s slippers. I have one now and I set it the same as the 3 s slipper 3/4 turns out but rhat is way to loose.
What did you set your slipper at and how is the slippage at where you set it at.
I need to look at Mine again and I just tightened it up
Thanks bud. 👊😀
I tighten mine all the way down.
CCxRC
All the way right. Why so tight now.
Does the slipper still slip being 100% tightened.
I did order a new one because doing a demonstration it got overtightened and “popped”. Bought a new screw kit for it, but couldn’t get it to tight at all. Got tired of messing with it, so I bought a whole new slipper assembly
@@CCxRC that's a bit of weak point on the 3/4s line if you over tighten the slipper screw too much it strips the thread on back side, which is only alloy, it's though to tell just the right point, be careful or you end up having to buy a new one. Ask me how I know!
I agree , i have few arrmas 6s 3s granite is a favorite .. It never dissapoints🚗😁
The Granite is an amazing truck! One of my favorites
gre@t truck brother
Ooops... Sux the arm broke Tony nice video
No worries. The new one didn’t break after bigger air. I also swapped out to RPM arms because I like them on most of my bashers. On Instagram you can see a teaser of a big bash we did with this and the 4s Outcast.
So many cool flips. So many front flips.
It and the Outcast are amazing in the air! Two of my favorite jumpers for sure. Me and my buddy has this and his 4s Outcast our for some big motorcycle jump bashing last night. It was a blast.
the 3S-4S Arrma line is tough as Nails! I have a 6s Kraton as well and the 3s is way cheaper to bash IMO.
Not to mention that if you send your 6s Kraton or outcast (Typhon can take it) more than 20ft, your chassis will bend. I had to put the $130 M2c chassis on my Kraton already. And that's not counting the $ for the shock towers and chassis braces and upgraded servo and servo mount. It's easily $800+ of upgrades on each of the 6s rigs to make them more bashable and they STILL BREAK more than the 3s and 4s line.
Yup like I told u on Instagram this car is really fun but the arms and driveshafts are super weak! Don’t know how many times I’ve replaced those!!😡🤦🏻♂️ Traxxas Maxx is way way tougher but it flips over like crazy🤷🏻♂️ I’m gonna try the WD40 trick!
Did you try RPM Arms? I bought them when I got the replacement rear. Knew I was going to switch to them regardless. They are durable plastics.
How did you memaged to break the driveshafts the only reports of broken driveshafts on the 3-4s line of arrma are because people are running too tight slipper clutches than what the drievshafts can take.
Or going full speed from a dead stop or going slightly backwards or jaming to 100% trottle if your slipper clutch is too tight your going to damage your diffs and driveshafts over time
Surchaufeur good advice I’ll try that 👍🏻
I feel like this is a truggy more than a monster truck like the Maxx 4s
beetlebailey I feel that way to
That's because it is a truggy.
Totally. Both are meant to bash. The Maxx is built like a tank, this just handles way better for high speed bashing and big air.
Well i dont know for me i consider the 4s line being trucks i dont know why people thing something to be a monster truck has to have a high center of gravity chassi
Maybe because of the wing when i think about it but i landed so many time on that wing and broke nothing i consider it my rear bumper😂
I am thinking of getting a 4S kraton and would like opinions please.
It drives really great. Rpm Arms makes it soooo durable. So if you break an A-arm crashing, replace them With RPM.
@@CCxRC Thank you.
Hello great stuff. I purchased the 4s kraton myself love it but I have broke my right front a-arm 3 times I soaked it in wd40 it might have helped .Rpm makes them I have a set but have not used them yet .I did get a bumper .Any way enjoy
Joe Beaudry if you don’t me asking, where did you get your bumper from? The one i keep finding is for the 6s kraton & couldn’t see one for the 4s in modelsport (from across the pond)
I put all RPM arms on mine. I’m a fan of RPM plastics. Should be crazy durable now.
Get the t bone bumper i got the guardian for the typhon specificly and i just removed the the stock bumper part and bolted the t bone bumper over the stock skid plate because their pin holder is a joke and make a lot of stress when you crash on the chassi and you might lose your pin brase also. They made a free remplacement pin holder but aparently it doesnt fit the guardian bumper
Are the shocks leaking?
Not yet.
Had mine for 5 months changed the oil 3 times for tuning still going strong
👍
I KNOW for fact that WD40 helps. I have used this trick since the early 2000s when racing buggies. I would literally hose them off after a bash then blow them off with the air compressor.. soak the entire thing with nearly a quarter of a can of it then blow it off again the next morning. I never broke wings or arms & knuckles again after this.
That’s my typically clean down as well!
Why not use loctite on slipper?
Must have been the weight of that 4s battery.
Holy moly your driving the piss outta that thing. I HAVE TO HAVE IT!!!!!!
You sure make an argument for soaking the plastic in WD-40. I have to admit that arm broke way to easy. Do you just spray the truck down and not wipe excess off for 24 hours, or do you take it apart and soak the parts covered in WD-40 in a bowl? This sure lands and drives off way better than the Maxx. Maxx lands like an over inflated basketball and the Kraton lands and drives off. Did you use the big ramp with the Maxx? I don't remember it flying that high. Are there any other racing companies making monster trucks like the Tekno MT-410? Can you compare those to the Kraton and Maxx? Thanks
DO YOU JUST WIPE IT DOWN WITH WD40 OR JUST SPRAY IT DOWN
I spray it down and then hit it with the air compressor to spread it and make sure I have coverage. Then I coat it again on the A-arms, wheels bar and wing, and let it sit overnight.
@@CCxRC thanks bud..good idea
Myth but it dont hurt
Well, about that wd40 thing.... i heard that a lot now on different channels.... i dont think its a good idea. Silicon spray might be good for the plastic. As well as the tires (slippery tho). But wd40 is only weakening the material on long term i think. That's why it flexes more i guess. Just my two cents on it.
Yeah. Doesn’t actually seem to help from tests I saw.
Good vid. Odd break. Wasn't even much of a jump. So far, I'd pick the Maxx mostly because of the shocks, radio system, metal diffs, and no slipper clutch.
Nobody No One What's the point in those parts if the handling is bad ,the Maxx at our bash spot yesterday had some bad handling it really took the fun out of using it (owners words)
@@RallyandTrail Handing importance is personal preference only. I put durability, quality parts, and other factors far above it. I'm a basher, not a racer. Plus, handling can be changed with different wheels and other parts if an owner desires.
Nobody No One Well I own the Kraton and I've now been around and seen a Maxx in action so I feel I can make a genuine comment unlike some of the fan girls that make things up by imagining it . Do you own any rc's? Handling is a major factor racing or bashing ! Nobody wants to bash with a truck that's always on its roof
@@RallyandTrail I'm well aware of the "fan girls" as you say. They are everywhere. If you think handling is the most important thing, that's great. I don't. People would not own Granites, Stampedes, SMT10s, Clodbusters, Lunchboxes and others if handling was extremely important to them.
Nobody No One Slow down my friend I never said handling was the most important thing? It's a major factor when racing or bashing .
The granite and stampede at least the 4x4 handle fine ? The rest of them trucks are hardly what I'd call bashers .
So what rc's do you own ?
First sentence of this video (Thats what she said!) LOL
I WD-40 mine too, then if they break then ill get the RPM replacements
i have a arrma senton 3s
The original arms seems to be more brutal to break i only broke 2 arms but its just me being a moron and cliped things with one tire and i bash hard. You could use rpm arms but the stock arms are cheap and more flexible than what comes woth the truck. Thats an issue with arrma the earlier arm production seems to be weak same went with the arrma granite but after that they seem to do well.
Now that you mention it, I had that with my Granite stock front arms as well. No problems after replacing.
That seem to break pretty easily?
Defective original arms happens with arrma ealy production modules
@@EXTREMERC416 Do Arrma always have this problem with a new production run? Think they would get it right before full production run and shipping. Thats ridiculous quality control.
I dont know but mine did not. Just saying what others told me
@@EXTREMERC416 It's pretty funny how you react to an Arrma breaking vs certain other brands.
Shit here we go again. I broke my rustler 4x4 arms in my first weird landing after i was doing a wheelie on one wheel and it snaped like a stick. Its a hit or miss we are dealing with arms here and not for example a driveshaft or a motor.
Just buy some RPM arms they are almost indestructible and are not much more $ than the stock ones
Already installed 👍😉
@@CCxRC Won't that complicate things when you compare it to other RCs?
It wasn’t the slipper it was the box punch settings