Decimator II G-String - Forget the Boss NS2

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  • My review of the ISP Technologies Decimator II G-String. It is absolutely phenomenal noise reduction pedal. It turns the Boss NS2 into an overpriced paper weight.
    Want to skip ahead?
    Difference between noise gate and noise suppressor - 0:35
    Connections/controls/features - 2:10
    How to hook it up - 3:02
    Difference from basic Decimator II - 4:01
    Testing the pedal out - 5:07
    Linking - 8:04
    Why it's better than the NS2 - 8:51
    The downsides - 9:41
    Pickup any of the pedals from this video
    Decimator II - www.zzounds.com/a--3980937/it...
    Decimator II G-String - www.zzounds.com/a--3980937/it...
    Boss NS-2 - www.zzounds.com/a--3980937/it...
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  • @mjmorden
    @mjmorden 4 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    Finally!! Someone perfectly explains EXACTLY how to set this pedal up. ISP should literally pay you to write their product manuals.

    • @richardt9102
      @richardt9102 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Well, not “perfectly” I’m afraid.
      The diagram provided here is wrong and will not function properly. I know because I just bought one and quickly followed this information instead of the correct ISP diagram.
      The correct way is as follows:
      Top right-Guitar Out
      Middle right-Guitar In
      Bottom right-Dec In
      Left side-Dec Out (correct)
      Guitar out goes to the front of the amp, Decimator In goes to your “send”, and Decimator Out goes to your “return “
      Include any pedal’s accordingly
      Hope he didn’t get paid for that.

    • @guitaristforever
      @guitaristforever ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@richardt9102 I have another question - he puts this pedal right after the guitar and before any distortion or overdrive. Shouldn't you put this pedal after the Distortion/overdrive to control the noise coming out of those pedals? I currently have my Rocktron Hush ( and DD2 delay) connected to Send/Return and it seems to be working ok, but it's over 20 years old and I'm thinking new technologies should work better?

  • @RoyMcKaren
    @RoyMcKaren 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I tested both.. I think the NS2 is the better choice. I never have issues with it, it doesnt suck tone, sounds the same as the gstring and costs wayy less. just my 2cents.

    • @dickvalentinesillegitimate1059
      @dickvalentinesillegitimate1059 ปีที่แล้ว

      Where do you put it on your chain?

    • @RoyMcKaren
      @RoyMcKaren ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@dickvalentinesillegitimate1059 I use the send and return on the NS2 to put my noisy dirt pedals in its loop. So I go tuner, NS2-loop overdrives loop return NS2, delay, reverb - out to amp

    • @dickvalentinesillegitimate1059
      @dickvalentinesillegitimate1059 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@RoyMcKaren thank you

  • @wilviars
    @wilviars 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Man your vids are absolutely awesome! Please keep making them. The kind of descriptive instructional videos we need. Excellent stuff!

  • @michaeljustice124
    @michaeljustice124 4 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    Anytime a man with two Iron Maiden posters in the background talks, I listen!

    • @ManBunMetalHead
      @ManBunMetalHead  4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      UP THE IRONS!!!

    • @mrcoatsworth429
      @mrcoatsworth429 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hell yeah, Up The Irons!

    • @homevalueglass3809
      @homevalueglass3809 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ha ha, yell yeah💪

    • @boimesa8190
      @boimesa8190 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ManBunMetalHead so the G-string also removes noise while playing? (Spectral noise removal?)

  • @peterfredlund1903
    @peterfredlund1903 2 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    I have owned a Decimator G-string and now I have a NS-2 I run in 4 cable method. Works just as well as the G string. The G string is just 4 times more expensive.

    • @VINISAMPLES
      @VINISAMPLES ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yeah, dude didn't talk about the FX loop option on the NS-2. Video was well made, but this was overlooked.

    • @dav8259
      @dav8259 ปีที่แล้ว

      Confermo, Boss is best!

    • @trackstarwillie2129
      @trackstarwillie2129 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      hogwash

    • @dimesciple1652
      @dimesciple1652 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yup… same here. Got rid of the overpriced one and kept the NS-2 and just learned how to Use the 4 cable or “X” pattern. All “noisy” pedals get tamed and the modulation effects use the send and return go to both amps loops,taming my high gain amps
      With one pedal…

    • @gitarman666
      @gitarman666 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Boss great buffer but ns-2 through my jvm410 Fx loop
      Good enough for Yngwie Malmsteen and those noisy plexis

  • @pramkriuk
    @pramkriuk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    I will forget Boss NS-2 only if the G-string asks the same price haha.. Currently price comparison in my country is IDR 3,351 millions (USD 239) vs IDR 975 thousands (USD 69). Hence the boss will still stay.

    • @larrytate1657
      @larrytate1657 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@frankviverito5404 used “like new” is king.

    • @bamenvy
      @bamenvy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I hear your comments, and respect them, but these two pedals are in two different worlds. If you're trying to get the professional equipment to have a professional set up the Dec2 is the only way to go. If you're just playing at home and don't need to worry about interference or noise the Boss is fine. 👍

  • @jin_st8216
    @jin_st8216 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is the best demo video on the G string pedal i've ever seen!! Thankyou

  • @zurielsanmartin1714
    @zurielsanmartin1714 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Thank you for catering to high gain/distortion players. I feel that other channels like vertex effects and jhs, though super informative, make videos for blues and indie players that wear scarfs and funny hats. Your content is of superb quality and is greatly appreciated.

  • @djkolcun
    @djkolcun 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Appreciate the video. Just picked up one of these and anxiously waiting to add it to my signal chain. Cheers!

  • @IwillNOTbow6637
    @IwillNOTbow6637 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i’m sold, thanks so much for the very informative and detailed video. this’ll help a lot!

  • @Wargasm644
    @Wargasm644 4 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    So after I drop 200$ plus on the pedal, I need to drop another 200$ on cables to hook it up 😂? Wouldn’t it be nice if amps just had this shit built in?

    • @7James77
      @7James77 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      We have products such as that, they are the result of being "jack of all trades, master of none". I would rather have a unit that is developed and designed for a specific task, rather than an amp that has 10 or more task developed and designed, causing it to not be strong in one part but mediocre in all.

    • @MikaLagreen
      @MikaLagreen 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Buy a ENGL Invader and you will be set for life :)

    • @johnwetzel6200
      @johnwetzel6200 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      hmm. I've been desgining a pedal amp. Maybe I'll figure out how to throw that in if it doesn't use too many op amps

    • @johnwetzel6200
      @johnwetzel6200 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      actually I was considering designing something that just notches out 60hz instead of gating the whole signal.

    • @monizag
      @monizag 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hughes and Kettner Grandmeiser deluxe 40 tube amp has a built in noise gate. It is called noise gate but it is actually a noise suppressor. I'm happy with this amp. BTW, i dont think BOSS NS2 is that bad as described. I also have NS2 used when I'm using my pedalboard instead of the amp preamp. NS2 cuts off hums well in my opinion and i dont feel any tone detriment. Check my youtube channel MONIZAG for videos recorded on grandmeister 40

  • @henrymick9648
    @henrymick9648 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    You didn't show us a tone demo of the ns-2. That sucks

  • @replicant8532
    @replicant8532 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    On the positive notes, very good hook-up explanation. On the other side, without testing NS-2 side to side it looks like decimator shill. You can connect NS-2 the same way as "decimator channel" with FX loop and NS-2 is a solid gate.

  • @jnkmal9519
    @jnkmal9519 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I don't know. I love my NS-2 and it always gets it done. I don't believe it's a "tone sucker" at all. I'm sure one's setup has a lot to do with it. I'm using very height gains. The Decimator II is a solid pedal, but I have to be skeptical when someone says a classic, almost iconic, pedal like the NS-2 is actually "bad". If it's no good, how did it achieve such a status and following. The NS-2 has been doing very well for a long time.

    • @EveOfChaos
      @EveOfChaos 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I hated mine for years before i learned how to use it in the X pattern lol now i love it

    • @warrenmooney9422
      @warrenmooney9422 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@EveOfChaos Me too. Didn't even know until about 10 years ago about the X pattern. Using the X pattern I couldn't imagine another noise suppressor being so much better to justify spending more money. It works great in the X pattern.

  • @Crypticmaskguitar
    @Crypticmaskguitar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I gotta be completely honest with you… i have used an NS-2 since 2003 and have been extremely happy with it and honestly absolutely nothing and i mean nothing has ever convinced me other wise, although im not a purist and im adaptable to change, over the years nothing has made me think twice until i watched this video… as a fellow youtuber and gear reviewer i gotta say on one pedal i thought i couldn’t be budged on i think you budged me… i deffinitly want to see what this pedal can do for myself… I wasn’t all that impressed by the first isp due to the outputs not being there and the versatility being vacant but i think this pedal has finally hit the mark… thank you for your excellent review - Kevin

    • @ManBunMetalHead
      @ManBunMetalHead  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Awesome man, glad I could sway you even just a little. You might want to consider looking at a Fortin Zuul as well, I've been using a Zuul mini for some time now.
      th-cam.com/video/4LCX5dKECGc/w-d-xo.html

    • @Crypticmaskguitar
      @Crypticmaskguitar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ManBunMetalHead thank you, i gotta say as a fellow youtuber, you deserve way way more subscribers and i hope your channel blows up very soon… we’ve been doing youtube since 2015 and it gets to the point you feel like marvin martian waiting for the big kaboom… i hope yours comes sooner then later… keep up the excellent content brother

    • @ManBunMetalHead
      @ManBunMetalHead  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Much appreciated! Not going to hold my breath but it would be great. Looks like you guys have some videos out there that have done pretty well. Hope you guys get your big kaboom soon too. Looks like we might similar videos, I'd say we should collaborate but no idea what would work. Any ideas, hit me up.

    • @tanker1960
      @tanker1960 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Got one two weeks ago. It is going back. Does not do any better than the NS-2. Look at the returns of this pedal at certain Music stores online!

    • @warrenmooney9422
      @warrenmooney9422 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@tanker1960 I've been using the NS-2 in the X pattern (aka 4 wire option) for 10 years and it's perfect for me. Maybe there's something better out there, but why try and fix what isn't broken.

  • @nl1938
    @nl1938 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review man, very representative and great sound also. Thanks a lot!

  • @portender6938
    @portender6938 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    By the time I came across this video I already had the regular Dec II. I was gonna sell it and get a G string II but after further research, it seems that it's actually better (albeit more costly) to hook two regular Dec IIs through the link out link in ports on the top. Yes, it's pretty much like the G string but with one advantage, you now have two knobs for suppression. One at the beginning that tracks your direct guitar, then it goes through the link out to the other Dec II in the effects loop that also gets the direct tracking expect it has it's own individual control. They compare it to their rack mount unit. Either way ISP Decimators rock. You can't go wrong either way.

    • @ManBunMetalHead
      @ManBunMetalHead  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good point, never thought about the separate suppression controls.

  • @emilyharpist
    @emilyharpist 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This was really helpful! Thank you so much.

    • @maurobelarde8527
      @maurobelarde8527 ปีที่แล้ว

      You're everywhere "chesty harpist girl"! Haha! 🥰🥰🥰

  • @johnnytube2983
    @johnnytube2983 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I've used the G-string for years and this is the best explanation of use I've ever heard. Nice Job!

  • @newfiesig
    @newfiesig 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Keep up the good work. You should have a lot more subscribers. I'm in.

  • @ibrajimenez2098
    @ibrajimenez2098 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good stuff man. Thanks for the content.

  • @marsattacks7071
    @marsattacks7071 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great explanations and demo ! Thanks !

  • @fromthesun
    @fromthesun 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Interested to try a isp asap. Currently using ns2 seems fine and like that I can adjust the attack. My real question is isp going to be better for tone. I don't use it live strictly only for studio and tracking di signals and sometimes with an aby one to amp one to di.

  • @AL2828
    @AL2828 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for the Demo! I was about to go get a Boss Noise paddle, I am using a tube Amp ( Black Star ), every time when I turn on my distortion with a Booster, my high hissing noise become unbearable, definitely get one and compare before and after! Thanks.

  • @lleonsands7009
    @lleonsands7009 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thanks. Good review and explanation. However, I'd like to hear how the unit tapers the signal on a sustained note and hear how it "clamps down" at the end or when the signal falls below the the threshold. Soft or hard? Cheers!

    • @ManBunMetalHead
      @ManBunMetalHead  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I do some sustain comparisons in this video th-cam.com/video/4LCX5dKECGc/w-d-xo.html

  • @JRP3music
    @JRP3music 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have been using two noise gates, but recently, I tried recconecting the NS-2 at the front and fx loop. It worked much better. I am doing 2 things which are counter acting the tone suck. One, I am using the shortest possible cable at the NS-2 send to amp input. The other is the Empress ParaEQ which is patched at the amp fx send to NS-2 return. My Mesa Nomad 100 has a parallel fx loop currently. I use a Two Notes Torpedo Captor 8 to send a line out to stereo fx and drive stereo amps. I am still considering the ISP Decimator II G string or SMG Cock Blocker.

  • @floazg777
    @floazg777 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What a really great video you've put together here. The G-String Decimator 2 is the mother of all pedals.

  • @justincase6151
    @justincase6151 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That's a great guitar. I love the scalloped fret board as well as the quilted maple top.

    • @ManBunMetalHead
      @ManBunMetalHead  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks. I happen to have a video about it if you're interested.
      th-cam.com/video/KOJS22EpTwM/w-d-xo.html

    • @justincase6151
      @justincase6151 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ManBunMetalHead awesome, will do!

  • @HAJJ101
    @HAJJ101 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought a Fethead Phantom, and a Rupert Neve 545 Primary Source Enhancer and I gainstaged both and they don’t sound different at all really compared to the original signal.
    So would this device change anything for me for reducing the noise floor more by a huge difference? I’m looking for huge difference noise reduction hardware for recording vocals.
    My setup: RME Fireface 802 Interface, and Rode NT2A

  • @Mollohandro
    @Mollohandro 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like this pedal! I haven’t use any other noise gate/suppressors. I feel that it can add a certain digital resonance if you want but if you don’t want it, then you can dial it down to where the noise is barely noticeable with my ear next to the amp. I use an MXR Iso brick to power it. It has one weird issue for me; if I don’t have the pedal pressed to ‘Off’ when powering it on, then it doesn’t work properly for me.

  • @calamityjohnny1646
    @calamityjohnny1646 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What’s it like when you play with dynamics? Such as playing a heavy tune and then playing a clean passage with your gtr volume backed off.

  • @karlendor3398
    @karlendor3398 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very interesting product. Will this affect pick slide? Alot of the stuff I play has pick slides and I don't want it to be cut/removed

  • @derrotamundial4554
    @derrotamundial4554 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi how is the decimator 2 g string with the " particular " effects loop of soldano?

  • @vanceanderson8238
    @vanceanderson8238 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video. Tons of insight and info

  • @partriotsfight5039
    @partriotsfight5039 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you Finally a video explains got to route this thing. I wish I could afford 3 but for now I'll have to settle for one. Can you make a video showing how to run 2 heads into one cab in stereo. with one decimator or will I need 2 still? I want to experiment blending my JSX 120 with my Marshall TSL 60

  • @theleftymonster
    @theleftymonster 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Very honest observation and clever suggestions. I hope ISP use these suggestions to improve their product. Also reduce the price please!!

  • @Waynent
    @Waynent 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Will this work with a Boss Katana MK2 amp? I have the Diezel VH 4 2, a Fender delay a Flamma reverb and an MXR Micro Flanger.

  • @dogansaral6778
    @dogansaral6778 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That noise (5:33) doesn't come out if you do not use ISP pedal. I'm using the same amp with same pedal. Yes there is a hum on the background by nature of tube amp (channel II - Petrucci settings). But It's not absolutely as annoying as that noise before ISP has turned on. It seems that ISP is creating the noise and reducing it when you turned it on. Wondering anyone else has experienced the same ?

    • @CTG-TV
      @CTG-TV ปีที่แล้ว

      This noise comes from the guitar...

  • @conancito
    @conancito 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    2 Questions:
    1. Where would you put "the drop" in a signal chain?
    2. Would the G-String still make sense over the normal Decimator 2 if I do not have Effects in the Effects loop at all?
    Thanks!

    • @ManBunMetalHead
      @ManBunMetalHead  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I would probably put The Drop close to first in the signal chain. Always best to try different locations though.
      If you don't use the G-String you may get unwanted noise from the amp and other pedals after the Decimator. Really depends on what your setup is like. High gain amps really benefit from having the suppression in the FX loop. If you're running all your FX before the amp input, I assume such is not the case for you.

  • @waitaminute7257
    @waitaminute7257 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Any suggestions for getting rid of amp noise, buzzing sounds etc when just plugging straight into the amp and playing the clean channel?

  • @RichardLuna2025
    @RichardLuna2025 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for showing the signal path, much appreciated. So you never send anything to the front of your amp???

    • @ManBunMetalHead
      @ManBunMetalHead  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Generally, I'll put a wah, Tubescreamer, and/or compressor in front of the amp. Everything else will go in the FX loop.

    • @RichardLuna2025
      @RichardLuna2025 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ManBunMetalHead thanks!!!

  • @nurtbmtv
    @nurtbmtv ปีที่แล้ว

    hey bro. how do i route my signal if i have a pre amp pedal distortion that goes into the effects loop of an amp?

  • @darrenayles5905
    @darrenayles5905 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great review of an awesome product. Special shout out for the detailed diagram with arrows showing the proper connections for DEC IN/DEC OUT. ISP's user manual did not have a lot of info on the G String and I have even seen other reviewers with the ISP's DEC IN DEC OUT not correctly connected. it took me a minute to figure out how to utilize all of the connectors. I use 2 of these monsters for a stereo setup (2 Peavey XXL solid state monsters) and a huge pedalboard. That pedal took INSANE amp/gain noise and instantly quieted all of it by turning that 1 knob about half way up. Quick story - I did try the BOSS NS-2 (my Sweetwater rep suggested the ISP but I didn't want to drop almost $250.00 on noise reduction.) Long story short - the BOSS NS-2 was a tone sucker; my entire rig and effects and dual 4 by 12 PRS Harmonic Generator cabinets sounded like they had quilts wrapped tightly around everything. No bueno. Quickly returned the BOSS and pulled the trigger on the ISP and my jaw just hit the floor. It feels like you're overpaying for a noise reduction pedal UNTIL you hear your high gain rig without all of that hiss and buzz, then this thing becomes worth it's weight (and it IS a heavy pedal, lots of tech going on in there) in GOLD! Thanks so much for this!

  • @MichaelDaniels
    @MichaelDaniels ปีที่แล้ว

    Where does this fit in with the mixer? I have a pevey amp and where I come out of the back that I send to the mixer. Thanks for any insight

  • @danielhenry4614
    @danielhenry4614 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a Jp2c to Will this make my chugging tighter ?

  • @nefariouspreludev2.046
    @nefariouspreludev2.046 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I bought both to see which one i liked better. The ns2 works flawlessly as does the g-string. Very little tone suck on thr ns2 and about the same for the decimator. I returned the decimator because the of the price point. Just get the ns2 and save a hundred bucks.

  • @zagarothdb8777
    @zagarothdb8777 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome review. How is it on the leads? I recently picked up a Zuul+ for the 4cbm, but I'm not finding a spot that will allow me to have singing leads. Playing through an Engl Fireball.

  • @namdinh2656
    @namdinh2656 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for a really clear review. I'm purchasing this to replace my TC Sentry...

    • @ManBunMetalHead
      @ManBunMetalHead  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I haven't used the Sentry yet, but the other guitarist in my band just picked one up. What made you want to jump to the Decimator?

    • @namdinh2656
      @namdinh2656 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @ManBunMetalHead it works fine. But as you mentioned, it's just the noise gate. So the noise is stuttering at the end of a ring note instead of smoothing out. I've tried different settings but no luck. That annoys me a lot. So I'm waiting for the G String to see if it can solve that issue.

  • @brianyaw56
    @brianyaw56 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is really a great video; so is the one about setting up the Boss ES-8 with the 4 cable method. But....how do you use the DII G-S with a Boss ES-8 and an amp Fx loop? That's what I'm trying to do....

  • @whatarefriends4
    @whatarefriends4 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That’s the tone right there!😍

  • @ericoreilly8368
    @ericoreilly8368 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I used the TC sentry in the first spot in the loop of my 5150 set to hiss...best results ive ever had.

  • @expurgated666
    @expurgated666 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    perfect. love this channel 🤘🏻

  • @LeoCasamassima
    @LeoCasamassima 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi, great video! But, I wanna know if with 2 isp decimator II (first in front OF amp and second in The loop OF The amp) I can have The same result or The 2 isp must be linked? Thanx

    • @ManBunMetalHead
      @ManBunMetalHead  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      More than likely you'd probably need to link them to get the same result. Reason being the second Decimator in the FX loop will react better with a clean signal rather than a signal that has any sort of FX (pedals or preamp) applied to it.

  • @Caitanya
    @Caitanya 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for this video, I bought this pedal now. You said you sometimes you put your wah before this pedal. Does that mean your guitar is plugged into your wah and then from your wah you plug into the guitar input of the Decimeter II pedal?

    • @ManBunMetalHead
      @ManBunMetalHead  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, that is correct.

    • @Caitanya
      @Caitanya 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ManBunMetalHead thanks man for the quick reply! Great explenation of a great pedal. It’s build like a tank, the sound is superb.

  • @matthewmeyer6383
    @matthewmeyer6383 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey - how are you incorporating it into/with the es 8? Do you use it in conjunction with the guitar as a volume insert 4 cable method or without the amp input as a loop?

    • @ManBunMetalHead
      @ManBunMetalHead  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I use the 4 cable method with the ES-8. Here are a list of my connections.
      Guitar -> ISP Gtr IN
      ISP Gtr OUT -> ES-8 Input
      ES-8 Volume OUT -> Amp Input
      Amp FX Loop OUT -> ISP Dec IN
      ISP Dec OUT -> ES-8 Volume IN
      ES-8 OUT -> Amp FX Loop IN

    • @matthewmeyer6383
      @matthewmeyer6383 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ManBunMetalHead - Awesome - just how I was going to do it. Thanks for the quick response!

  • @user-zt3ij2iv1f
    @user-zt3ij2iv1f 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It would be nice if the video shows how this pedal handles the sustain and dynamics when, for example, the guitar is used for sound like violin.
    Does it really suppress the noise that accompanies the tone or does it cut them together like a noise gate pedal does?????

  • @michaelcraig9449
    @michaelcraig9449 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What about the other 2 ISP noise supp. pedals, like the I and II, are they plenty good also? What if you are not a high gain metal player, just a loud classic rocker, playing with huge crunchy tones? Will it help with hum, string noise, small clunky sounds like when changing chords, etc..What if you dont want it to cut of right away? What if you want to hold a huge note or chord for a while? I often do that.. I dont want the notes or chords to suddenly stop every damn time.

  • @pvdmac
    @pvdmac 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent Demo

  • @joshuajames1728
    @joshuajames1728 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    hey man! awesome video! just curious if i am running this pedal through the fx loop of my amp and using an effects processor as well with an fx loop...where in my signal chain would i throw in a loop pedal? ive got the boss rc3 and i cant figure out where to put this for the life of me

    • @joshuajames1728
      @joshuajames1728 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      also the way im using the decimator is with the input monitoring method that way any time i switch to a clean channel it automatically lays off some of that gate

    • @ManBunMetalHead
      @ManBunMetalHead  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you using the Decimator G-String I would recommend putting the RC3 in the FX loop after the Decimator. That's the only way to bypass the noise gating/reduction of the Decimator.

  • @satchrules101
    @satchrules101 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You made my choice bro , I’m buying it tomorrow!

  • @cryptogumbyckb1183
    @cryptogumbyckb1183 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video, super str8 forward review. Subbed

  • @nickcarrato9309
    @nickcarrato9309 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Good video bro!!

  • @reneorfanidis789
    @reneorfanidis789 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you so much for again another great video. I love the way you explain everything in such detail and give so much needed information. You should have way more subscribers :-)

    • @ManBunMetalHead
      @ManBunMetalHead  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Much appreciated. Always good to hear my videos help.

  • @2rBLW9rvamObFWQyZdkF
    @2rBLW9rvamObFWQyZdkF 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey man, like me I can see your using this with a Boss-es8. Out of curiosity how have you got it wired up with that? Are you using it in a es8 loop or just apart of your gtr input and fx loop signal chain

    • @ManBunMetalHead
      @ManBunMetalHead  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I use the 4 wire method so I can place my FX before the input or in FX loop.

    • @2rBLW9rvamObFWQyZdkF
      @2rBLW9rvamObFWQyZdkF 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ManBunMetalHead same, I've gone
      Gtr -> Es8 input1
      Amp fx send -> Dec fx in
      Dec out -> es8 amp send
      Es8 loop 1 out -> Comp -> Dec gtr in -> gtr1 out -> loop 1 in
      Es8 fx out -> amp return
      Tight as a camel’s arse in a sandstorm.

  • @KeannuReevezzz03
    @KeannuReevezzz03 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    isp decimator g string full size vs full size fortin zuul? I know you pick the mini zuul over the mini g string

    • @ManBunMetalHead
      @ManBunMetalHead  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I would probably take the full size Zuul. I've switched from the Decimator G String to the mini Zuul and haven't looked back.

  • @boimesa8190
    @boimesa8190 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Any clones or cheaper alternatives?

  • @x6x745
    @x6x745 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    VERY VERY
    nice video, keep going..thanks

  • @timmyd759
    @timmyd759 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The Decimator ii is a good pedal. Overpriced & overrated though. But that's just my opinion. Results always vary. I thought it was amazing for bass guitar. A bit of a tone suck for high gain guitar situation. I owned 2 Decimator ii and a G-string. They all sounded the same.

  • @benjaminpeyrusse1701
    @benjaminpeyrusse1701 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello i use an ES8 too with a mesaboogie mark V. Could you share how you place your Gstring in this setup? Do you use one loop for the Gstring on ES8 or do you put of ES8 loop for a use with 4 cables method? Thanks for support !

  • @LokiFarbaute
    @LokiFarbaute 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice detail with showing the diagram, but what if was to be connected to a series of pedal going into a looper/switch, how would you do that?

    • @ManBunMetalHead
      @ManBunMetalHead  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'd probably put the Guitar circuit after the looper.

  • @someoneelse101
    @someoneelse101 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I use an Electro Harmonix Super Switcher. There's an unnmbered insert loop in that which is designed for pedals that are always kept on. I have my effects in the following order: Compression, tremolo, overdrive, pitch shifter, delay, reverb.
    The compressor is the only pedal that gives a hiss of any kind and maybe the pitch shifter rattles a little on the 2nd octave up setting which I believe to be normal.
    Should I connect the guitar in and out as normal and put the Dec In/Out into the insert loop?

    • @ManBunMetalHead
      @ManBunMetalHead  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, I'd connect the Guitar In/Out as normal and as long as the Dec In/Out loop is before the delay and reverb, you should be good.

  • @rienvandingenen
    @rienvandingenen ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Question. My amp does not have an FX loop. The amp is on a clean channel and I'm using distortion pedals for my main sound. Would this pedal work if I set up the guitar and amp as normal but I just put all my distortion pedals in between the Dec out and the Dec in? I'm presuming it would first take out the noise of the guitar and than also the noise of the pedals, right? Or am I missing something?

  • @DLR1976
    @DLR1976 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think my ISP Decimator G-String II is dead and i don't know how to fix it...

  • @fuckin88er
    @fuckin88er 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What's the difference between the Dec Gstring and the Dec 2?

  • @CeeEyeCee
    @CeeEyeCee 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Metal players need it yes cause it blocks it out amazingly for those kinda players... The ns2 you'll still hear some buzz and u do notice a tone change but only a fraction really.
    You can tweek on ur amp too to gain a heavier tone when you've activated it already..
    Not hard at all.

  • @captainhonan
    @captainhonan ปีที่แล้ว

    So what if I have other petals after the reverb delay pedal that you take the output out to the amp how do those get connected like a looper

  • @mesaboogie4
    @mesaboogie4 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How do you connect the decimator gstring to the boss ES8 ?

  • @thrashxd4xlife105
    @thrashxd4xlife105 ปีที่แล้ว

    My tube screamer still causes feedback regardless if I put it before after the decimator. Help! The decimator quiets it a bit, but the feedback is still there.

  • @riccardocecchele6984
    @riccardocecchele6984 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi, I have the version that has only one input and one output for the guitar. Do I always place the gate at the beginning of pedalboard?
    Thank you
    Riccardo

  • @sherbuel
    @sherbuel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    To my knowledge ISP decimator is a noise gate, not a noise suppressor the "linearized time vector processing" is just a "optmised expander" etc= the way the gate open/close. : "The Decimator II also features improvements in the expander tracking with our new Linearized Time Vector Processing™. This novel improvement provides a more linear release time-constant response for the exponential release curve of the downward expander. While the expander is exponentially increasing expansion and dynamically changing its response to fit the envelope of the input signal, the release response remains linear over a given time period. This increases the smoothness of the release response of the expander and provides the most transparent release response of any noise reduction system available and virtually eliminates any release ripple for incredibly smooth decay of longer sustained notes."

  • @johnshambor
    @johnshambor ปีที่แล้ว

    How do I plug in if I want to go directly into the amp with no pedals other than the isp decimator?

  • @joecady-metal9037
    @joecady-metal9037 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Zuul is killer. Swapped out my isp earlier this year

    • @ManBunMetalHead
      @ManBunMetalHead  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Might have to get one and try it out

    • @charlesrocks
      @charlesrocks 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      +2 I too have the Zuul. It’s fantastic.

  • @zandig666
    @zandig666 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice scalloped on your guitar bud ! Great vid on noise gates !!!🤟🤟🤟🤟

  • @DrunkenRhinoceros
    @DrunkenRhinoceros ปีที่แล้ว

    can this be used like the decimator 2 with just an input and output if one desires a simple setup with single coils and gain??

  • @HellcatsUnited
    @HellcatsUnited ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I recently bought the ISP and it really worth every dollar, I recommend it

  • @brianrosemusician
    @brianrosemusician 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What's the difference between a normal Decimator II and Decimator II G-string?

    • @silentstormstudios
      @silentstormstudios 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He explained that in the video. The normal one is just standard Decimator noise suppresion, the G-string has the separate Decimator channel that allows you to suppress noise in the amp's FX loop based on the direct guitar signal.

  • @maurobelarde8527
    @maurobelarde8527 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi dude! How are you? I own a G String and I'm thinking to purchase a Decimator II to link them. It's worth it? I use many gain pedals and a lot of modulation, delays and reverbs to play some sort of drone ambient metal. What do you think? I would appreciate your help. There is not information online. 🙏🙏🙏

  • @jonc1282
    @jonc1282 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does this work if I just put it in front of my dirt pedals, in a single chain? I find the 4 cable method too cumbersome

  • @cazziebb1707
    @cazziebb1707 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How do I hook up the G String without going into the FX loop of the amp?

  • @Disabledguitarist1985
    @Disabledguitarist1985 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How does this stack up to the fortin zuul ? The zuul looks complicated to set up.

    • @ManBunMetalHead
      @ManBunMetalHead  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've since switches to the Zuul Mini actually. I did a comparison between the Zuul Mini and Deci-Mate G, pretty much just mini versions of their larger brothers. th-cam.com/video/4LCX5dKECGc/w-d-xo.html

    • @Disabledguitarist1985
      @Disabledguitarist1985 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ManBunMetalHeaddo you have to put the regular zuul in the effects loop for it to work ?

    • @ManBunMetalHead
      @ManBunMetalHead  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Any suppressor usually works best in the FX loop especially on a high gain amp. But you could put it anywhere.

  • @thromboid
    @thromboid 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Interesting - so the Decimator is digital whereas the NS-2 is analog? It looks like the patching scheme is essentially the same as for the NS-2 (Guitar In = Input, Guitar Out = Send, Dec In = Return, Dec Out = Output).

  • @jonahmoore1779
    @jonahmoore1779 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    How does this affect sustain like bending notes for example?

    • @ManBunMetalHead
      @ManBunMetalHead  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It can certainly have a negative effect. I've been using the Fortin Zuul Mini lately, which I think is better than the Decimator, but can still cut off a sustained note if you're not careful.

  • @joeblack007forever
    @joeblack007forever 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for this video :) Great!

  • @zz-.-
    @zz-.- 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Seems to be 2 clear camps - ns2 and g string. But how does this change with the new ns-1x?

  • @MichaelDaniels
    @MichaelDaniels 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    We don't use other pedals. We also use wireless on our guitars. So would I put a wireless in the guitar and where would I plug the reciever? Guitar in? Show us the buttons so we can see a set up. So here is my guess 1) wireless transmitter in guitar 2) wireless receiver into the G 2 (where?) there are 3 or 4 inputs 3) have a cord from the pedal going out to my amp. Then we do not use mic'd amps. 4) We have a DI out of the back of the amp that goes to a snake to the mixing board. Does this sound correct?

  • @LayneNguyen
    @LayneNguyen 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wanted to ask, but if I don't use any distortion pedals then I would use the guitar out straight to the amp? The rest would be the same it appears.

  • @cptdoobs3691
    @cptdoobs3691 ปีที่แล้ว

    What if I have no FX loop on the amp? Is this pedal usable in any way?

  • @nykailembke1122
    @nykailembke1122 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you use this with out a pedal board like just using it straight into the Amp and does it get rid of feedback? I'm just learning about gates

    • @ManBunMetalHead
      @ManBunMetalHead  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You can use it without a pedalboard, but it's intention isn't to get rid of feedback, so it probably won't help much.

    • @nykailembke1122
      @nykailembke1122 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh ok do you know of any pedals that might get rid of that by chance

    • @ManBunMetalHead
      @ManBunMetalHead  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not that I know of. Typically, feedback is caused by having the guitar too close to the amp or issues somewhere in the FX chain causing a feedback loop.

    • @nykailembke1122
      @nykailembke1122 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ok thank you man

  • @ewhatts
    @ewhatts 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have a plexi style amp with no fx out how can I use Dec in and Dec out

  • @andrewptraining
    @andrewptraining ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent video