D.I.Y Skinning a Front Lip in Real Carbon Fiber!!

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  • @justinbest9429
    @justinbest9429 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I absolutely respect you giving this ago, I did a couple small parts years ago and it was a nightmare. I want to do my rear diffuser next but it's fairly large and a horrible shape. I felt really sorry for you when it went wrong but you should be proud of what you achieved for your first go.

    • @Foxcraze
      @Foxcraze  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks for that man! It was a bit of a downer not gonna lie but I’m gonna rock it either way cause I am proud of what I have managed to do so far! I want to take a crack at more complex parts now that I have a basic idea of seaming different cloth pieces together. We shall see, have a great day!

    • @justinbest9429
      @justinbest9429 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Foxcraze I have a js racing rear diffuser on my fd2 civic, you can't buy it in carbon anymore so I'm thinking of skinning it.. the shape makes the job feel very daunting to me. Not sure it can be done on one piece of carbon sheet 🙄

    • @Foxcraze
      @Foxcraze  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah that’s likely gonna need seamed at the fins and in the exhaust ports

    • @justinbest9429
      @justinbest9429 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Foxcraze this is going to suck! I think I'm going to use a pre impregnated carbon material so I can cut and seem it without too but ball ache.. wish me luck man 👍

    • @Foxcraze
      @Foxcraze  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hell yeah, may the odds be ever in your favor good sir!

  • @cj94zj92sc
    @cj94zj92sc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Me again, lol I noticed you rolled the carbon out from one end, "scroll method" is where you find the center of the cloth and your substrate and roll out 10" to 12" on each side this locks your on the substrate from the center so the weave can follow contours. You had "bunching" at your corners access weave had nowhere to go but if you start at the center the weave will run to the edge

    • @Foxcraze
      @Foxcraze  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You are on a roll with these tips haha appreciate it. I’m gonna be doing this lip over in forged carbon I think to fix the issues I had due to this attempt.

    • @cj94zj92sc
      @cj94zj92sc 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good content I'm doing the front clip of my solstice I have a ton of cool tricks but you've got the jist, just use scroll method and you with be good

    • @chriscaine1776
      @chriscaine1776 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Could also have done a pre layup wetout on the carbon weave itself, both totalboat and fiberglast typically recommend doing these kind of jobs that way to prevent bunching in the weave

    • @Foxcraze
      @Foxcraze  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not gonna lie, I didn’t even know what the terms you just used meant when I did this project haha. I would have done it differently if I had it to do over again.

  • @davidnewton5961
    @davidnewton5961 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    For your first time doing that you actually did a damn good job bro

    • @Foxcraze
      @Foxcraze  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks brother!! Engine compartment covers are next I think.

    • @davidnewton5961
      @davidnewton5961 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’m still waiting on us to do my rear diffuser lol

    • @davidnewton5961
      @davidnewton5961 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Foxcraze hey would u b interested in trying something like that on my rear diffuser just let me know what the cost is

    • @Foxcraze
      @Foxcraze  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Let’s get it fitting first lol

    • @davidnewton5961
      @davidnewton5961 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Foxcraze u free Friday

  • @Lukes_whips
    @Lukes_whips 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nicely done! Keep up the good content!

    • @Foxcraze
      @Foxcraze  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Appreciate it and most def will!!

  • @dredre9484
    @dredre9484 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good to know about weeve care doing mine but I'm laying a strip of kevler on bottom so if it scrapes won't damage carbon fibre (F1 cars have kevler skid pads just a idea)

    • @Foxcraze
      @Foxcraze  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hell yeah, good to know about the Kevlar appreciate it!

  • @bigbothoee8617
    @bigbothoee8617 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How come you Diddnt use the spray glue to hold the carbon in place ?

    • @Foxcraze
      @Foxcraze  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Since it will see a lot of UV light I didn’t wanna risk Delamination and heard the bond was better with resin over long term exposure so I used a resin coat instead.

  • @UtubeUser009
    @UtubeUser009 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Would you say using epoxy as the adhesive is better than spray?

    • @Foxcraze
      @Foxcraze  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I would say yes just incase there is a thermal reaction that would cause the spray to release.

    • @UtubeUser009
      @UtubeUser009 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Foxcraze will try it tomorrow! My fabric literally skinned off clean. The spray didn’t even stick one bit. 😅

    • @Foxcraze
      @Foxcraze  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hearing that is not surprising at all haha 😂 glad you were able to verify my thoughts on it lol

  • @patrickisherwood573
    @patrickisherwood573 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A 'weave lock's carbon will usually not do as well going around corners and bends. Next time, try working from the center of the bumper and working out, that will prevent any distortion of the weave

    • @Foxcraze
      @Foxcraze  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I appreciate the tip, and will try it on future parts!

  • @motorhead6872
    @motorhead6872 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you don't have black dye can you just primer what ever ur using black?

    • @Foxcraze
      @Foxcraze  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don’t see why that wouldn’t work as well, unless the resin reacts to the paint some how and causes it to lift from the part.

  • @arkhamcityfreak
    @arkhamcityfreak 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    would this process work on individual pieces? Like doing it on a front lip or side skirts?

    • @Foxcraze
      @Foxcraze  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yep same process. I’m gonna be doing engine bay plastics next! Be sure to subscribe for more!

  • @rogerkaday3973
    @rogerkaday3973 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good good for your 1st time

    • @Foxcraze
      @Foxcraze  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Appreciate that man!

  • @lucianpetcu55
    @lucianpetcu55 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You can easily repair the damaged areas by adding a new layer of carbon fiber on the damaged areas!!!

    • @cj94zj92sc
      @cj94zj92sc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How would he match the weave?

    • @luigismustache
      @luigismustache 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@cj94zj92sc I would assume he could ad a layer of epoxy, let it tack up on the entire lip and lay another 8ft piece of carbon.

    • @Foxcraze
      @Foxcraze  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah that would be the easiest way. However, I’m 95% certain I’m gonna sand it down and do a layer of chopped carbon over it and then re-resin!

    • @luigismustache
      @luigismustache 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Foxcraze chopped carbon would be awesome. Good luck with the next project. I'm going to try making a lip for my car soon. Your video helped out alot!

    • @Foxcraze
      @Foxcraze  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad to hear it and best of luck in your project!!

  • @MasonTan27
    @MasonTan27 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You said you can either do the layers 2 hours apart or 8 hours apart. If I wait till 8, do I have to sand with 120 again?

    • @Foxcraze
      @Foxcraze  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That is correct! So if you can afford every 2 hours it’s def easiest!

    • @MasonTan27
      @MasonTan27 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Foxcraze thank you so much. Video was super helpful

    • @Foxcraze
      @Foxcraze  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      No prob man!

  • @HyLifeSociety
    @HyLifeSociety ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You could’ve left the edge carbon and painted the rest to cover the imperfections. Black lip with carbon edge would still look dope

    • @Foxcraze
      @Foxcraze  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That’s a great idea, and since I still haven’t painted this lip, that might be a good option haha

  • @muckeyn
    @muckeyn 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How much resin did you use in this process? Trying to gauge how much I need for a few projects.

    • @Foxcraze
      @Foxcraze  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I feel like I used about half the bottles which is around 8oz of resin and 4 oz of hardeners

    • @muckeyn
      @muckeyn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Foxcraze did you end up keeping the carbon on the front lip? Any thoughts on post curing resin for exterior parts exposed to the sun? I haven’t seen a realistic way to diy this for a part this big and not many people talk about it.

    • @Foxcraze
      @Foxcraze  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It’s still there and surviving but I have yet to install it cause I wanna do more to it first. I think I’m gonna keep it, clear it and hope for the best and if it gets jacked I will sand and paint it. Short of putting it in the sun to cure or rolling over it with a heat gun forever I don’t know how to post cure something this big either or if it would even need it.

  • @luisz34nismo
    @luisz34nismo 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i want to do this with my 370z v1 nismo front bumper

    • @Foxcraze
      @Foxcraze  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Go for it man!

  • @SLR-hn5yy
    @SLR-hn5yy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When you put the carbon fibre and it's stuck in a wrong position of seen a guy use a heat gun to loosen the resin and make it more manageable maybe you can try that next time if it happens

    • @Foxcraze
      @Foxcraze  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Anything is worth a try at least once thanks!

  • @ryno9732
    @ryno9732 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think with a 2nd person to help put with the rollout this would have come out perfect

    • @Foxcraze
      @Foxcraze  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah it would have def been easier lol. I’m gonna keep doing stuff and slowly get better!

    • @ryno9732
      @ryno9732 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Foxcraze like they say practice makes perfect. But that definitely looks like it came it super good regardless of the weave misshap there

    • @Foxcraze
      @Foxcraze  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Ryno if not for the weave issue it would be damn near perfect super pleased with it! Prob gonna be doing engine bay plastics next!

  • @3toedSloth75
    @3toedSloth75 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Could have added a 2nd layer at either end to cover the messed up areas with the excess on the roll.

    • @Foxcraze
      @Foxcraze  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That’s true, at the time I didn’t know how to seam it and didn’t want to make it worse.

  • @ilanSniping
    @ilanSniping 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is the top resin coat a different type of resin ? Compared to all the other layers ? Thx

    • @Foxcraze
      @Foxcraze  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not for my application but if you spend more money and buy an additional resin with uv protection then that would be used only on the last few light layers. I planned on clear coating it so I didn’t buy it.

    • @ilanSniping
      @ilanSniping 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Foxcraze okay thank You ! I do full interior in carbon overlay too . I clear coat it too then sand it from 800-1000-2000 grit then I buff it with maguiars m105 and polish it after and it looks amazing . I always wanted to try a special top coat resin

    • @Foxcraze
      @Foxcraze  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I might get it and use on another project and see how it last with out clear to compare and see if it’s actually worth the money.

    • @ilanSniping
      @ilanSniping 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Foxcraze that would be awesome thank you !

  • @Cape_Town_7655
    @Cape_Town_7655 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    its firts try

  • @gamercoolapple1
    @gamercoolapple1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What brand and name was the dye called from hobby lobby thanks I will try this

    • @Foxcraze
      @Foxcraze  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No problem the brand is Alumilite and it’s called black opaque dye. It can be found in the epoxy mold making section!

  • @manuelkraenzlein7344
    @manuelkraenzlein7344 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Carbon laminate is not strong. Its just strong when u cure it under pressure with a small amount of epoxy

    • @Foxcraze
      @Foxcraze  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good to know, thanks!

    • @jstrndm945
      @jstrndm945 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Carbon laminate is not for structure, it just cosmetic. Also, pressure doesn't give a strange to the carbon part, it help you spread the resin through the fabric easily and keep the fabric tight on the surface/mold.

  • @pickelrick6377
    @pickelrick6377 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What did you use for cutting the excess off?

    • @Foxcraze
      @Foxcraze  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Heavy duty scissors for the large areas and a sharp box cutter for the tight corners and edges.

  • @Cape_Town_7655
    @Cape_Town_7655 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    put nice stiker there

    • @Foxcraze
      @Foxcraze  ปีที่แล้ว

      That was my thought as well 😂

  • @Cape_Town_7655
    @Cape_Town_7655 ปีที่แล้ว

    1st time will say 8 out of 10 some will do it worst

    • @Foxcraze
      @Foxcraze  ปีที่แล้ว

      I appreciate it brother!

  • @kevinkev1530
    @kevinkev1530 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    👍🏾👍🏾

  • @wellsyaknow
    @wellsyaknow 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Maybe the carbon chips would have been an easier application?

    • @Foxcraze
      @Foxcraze  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah prob so haha. I already had all the reg carbon all over the car so I stuck with it. I didnt test out the forged till after I did this unfortunately.

    • @wellsyaknow
      @wellsyaknow 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Foxcraze still came out nice though... I usually just do vinyl but that doesn't last forever

    • @Foxcraze
      @Foxcraze  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I appreciate that! I was gonna do carbon wrap but it just didn’t look authentic enough to match the real carbon already on the car.

    • @wellsyaknow
      @wellsyaknow 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Foxcraze it's hard to beat the real deal

    • @jstrndm945
      @jstrndm945 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      For skinning, chopped more hard for me especially if it need perfectly tight fit because it more thicker than fabric, but still turn out great😀 try it

  • @newgeneration3496
    @newgeneration3496 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not from experience but a lot of people crap the carbon fiber 24hrs in advance over the piece

    • @Foxcraze
      @Foxcraze  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’m not following what you’re saying. They do what to the carbon fiber 24hrs in advance?

    • @newgeneration3496
      @newgeneration3496 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Foxcraze sorry, drape the material over and use a little tape to form the curves over night.

    • @Foxcraze
      @Foxcraze  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh that makes sense! Good point, will def look into that next time!

  • @Sixguns1
    @Sixguns1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The reason you had issues was your layup was wrong. Carbon doesn't conform to sharp angles well especially when applied as dry as you applied yours. If you would have whetted it out it would have laid down better and small weave corrections would have been possible as well.

    • @Foxcraze
      @Foxcraze  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      So don’t let it get that tacky? Or add another thin coat after the tack? Can you clarify whetted out, like apply resin to the carbon before I laid it down?

    • @mrrogers8158
      @mrrogers8158 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I would like to know what whetted out means as well

    • @justinbest9429
      @justinbest9429 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Obviously doesn't know because adds a reply then doesn't go into detail. What a time waster!

  • @jstrndm945
    @jstrndm945 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why the mixing cup shape? 🤦😂 Laugh so hard on that one
    Tips: wet the fabric first than lay the fabric centre out, wait until tacky and give a second coat.
    You can learn by using thin fibreglass, so you can see how your technic work, usually you'll see a lot of air trap underneath or the resin doesn't spread well

    • @Foxcraze
      @Foxcraze  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hahaha it was the first kit I found and I didn’t want to wait to get another so I took that heart shaped cup and got busy haha. thanks for that, I will be doing this again soon on some mirrors. I will def give that a go.

  • @bottomofthemap696
    @bottomofthemap696 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really pisses me off at that it never shows the end result

    • @Foxcraze
      @Foxcraze  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That’s because the bumper wasn’t being painted yet and had a lot more work to be done first. The purpose was skinning which was accomplished. Either way, have a great day!