This is exactly the kind of methodology I was hoping to see. An outer beauty panel with an inner structural panel bonded to it that recreates the kind of skeletonized raised support structure that companies make with stamped steel in order to use tensegrity to add additional rigidity and support to the panels. Those molds are beautifully made and the gel-coat in flawless. I appreciate your efforts to really work the carbon into the creases and contours of the mold with the spray adhesive to ensure that you have enough material packed in there for the vacuum bag to work with. Beautifully done, this should result in an inordinately strong part that weighs considerably less than the original despite being an order of magnitude stronger.
The only problem I have with this video is that he makes it looks much more simple that it probably really is. Very organised workspace and a very professional product. I'm impressed !.
One tip to avoid a sanding operation. Remove your parts from the mold, do your trimming and hole cutting, then remove the peel ply when you're ready to bond the parts together. That should leave you with a good surface for bonding without having to sand. That's how we build airplanes out of composites. You only need to sand if you remove the peel ply too early and let it get contaminated.
There are two types of Peel Ply in the industry. If you use the type for bonding then the surface finish is rough. I would imagine he's using the type that leaves a very smooth finish. Thus the need to sand before bonding. He's been around the block on making parts, so I am sure he knows what he's doing.
Question: Why follow the internal ribs and contours of the original sheet metal part? They're there to add rigidity while conforming to the limitations of press machines and welding requirements. Why replicate those exact shapes on a one-off hand-made part? Any external surface must be the exact shape for obvious reasons (Originality and/or aesthetics). Only the mating internal surfaces need to follow the original design... Painstakingly re-creating the internal surface structure seems redundant. Any thoughts?
@@vikassm because he did a Mold of the entire inner support areas. Doesnt want to go through all the extra work of modifying things when the inner stuff already has great mold quality paint. And these arent one off. He sells them to people that want to buy.
@@vikassm Without the inner part you need some kind of other structure or the outer part alone could wobble and bend diagonally. It also helps to build some thickness. Pretty sure the part even with the inner will be shallower on the body of the car than the surrounding original parts, though.
Awesome work. Love to see the process. Do you have a video on how you made the molds? Also, have you considered making rear quarter panels for your new edge race car? I was wondering if that’s possible.
I love watching your videos, I am looking at getting into doing this for my self as a result. I did have a question though from when you did the outer shell, did the resin really almost explode into the part where it went very quickly or was that just the time lapse? the reason i ask is because all the others seem a ton slower. Thanks for your time and keep up the great work :)
Do you always clearly see where to cut in the end or is there a risk of easily ruining the cut? When the trunk is installed, will it sit significantly lower than the (original) fenders surrounding it?
Is there a reason why you dont leave the outer skin in the mold, glue in the underside (potentually you can use vaccum bagfor clamping) and only than take it out ? Interested to learn as that is how we did large assemblies in marine production to make sure the outer skin doesnt deform. Beautiful work by the way. A pleasure looking at someone doing such clean work.
Thats impressive, excellent work man, i highly advise you to make carbon hood and fenders for new supra. The market is full of bolted fiber glass parts but if you can make a complete part that will be a great business for you. God bless you
Wowwwww Impressive... I would like to know what kind of glue did you aplied on rivets and when you paste 2 carbon parts... I would like glue scrows on my little proyects...
What carbon fiber fabric do you use and which spray adhesive? It looks that you can manipulate it really well around corners and details. Great work and nice channel!
Two questions: 1) I have seen some really great "maker" videos by you which includes product you sell. Is your goal to empower folks to make their own custom stuff or give folks a peek at what goes into the making of your parts? 2) The tactical vest. Seen you wear it a few times in videos. Is it a convenient place to store tools as you work?
I built a custom steel hood for my Subaru Baja with a larger scoop out of a newer STI and have someone wanting me to do the same for their 22 Outback. These one-offs are not profitable at all so I'm trying to gather as much info about composites as I can in hopes of reproducing a few. Thanks for the good time lapse of the process!
wow thats amazing i always wanted to see how carbon fiber parts are made now i know its a long hard labores process i want 2 get as much carbon fiber on my car as i can 2 make it lighter after watching this video i have a new found respect n admiration for carbon fiber and your work u r a very good craftsman
Great video. If you need to use threaded inserts on your carbon panels, can you install regular rivnuts? Or are there special threaded inserts you would recommend for carbon panels (like splitters)
@@ajhartmanaero for this application its on the edge of a splitter just to close the gap to the bumper - not structural. But more curious in your experience with threaded inserts and CF in general.
NICE !! What are you using for a release agent? Did you put clear coat down on the mould before you laid up the carbon cloth? Thanks for sharing. 10 /10. From New Zealand
How many degree in your oven ? and it's just cure faster or it has another purpose ? I watched your video alot and hopefully, i will open my one day Thanks
Is that the 3M gun you are using to spray your pre cote , if do you like or would you go with something different? I'm using a harbor freight $20 gun but you have to adjust the fan almost every time
@@ajhartmanaeroHi mate, long shot replying to a 10 month old comment but I could use some tips and advice. Is there any way I can reach out to you to ask some basic questions?
That's badass ! Also that's quite the wooded shop you have there, It shows a lot of creativity, I'm gonna like and sub and check you out, I like what I seen...
How can i get started in this? This is all very new to me and i would like to make a business of my own out of this one day. Could anyone give any pointers?
This is exactly the kind of methodology I was hoping to see. An outer beauty panel with an inner structural panel bonded to it that recreates the kind of skeletonized raised support structure that companies make with stamped steel in order to use tensegrity to add additional rigidity and support to the panels. Those molds are beautifully made and the gel-coat in flawless. I appreciate your efforts to really work the carbon into the creases and contours of the mold with the spray adhesive to ensure that you have enough material packed in there for the vacuum bag to work with. Beautifully done, this should result in an inordinately strong part that weighs considerably less than the original despite being an order of magnitude stronger.
The only problem I have with this video is that he makes it looks much more simple that it probably really is. Very organised workspace and a very professional product. I'm impressed !.
23 minutes is an impressive time to build a trunk lid. That would take me at least twice as long.
It’s sped up?
No kidding. If it weren’t for time lapse, it would take me way longer to get things done.
pretty sure its a joke guys. XD
Oh I thought he was the Flash.
I have zero need for a carbon fiber trunk lid, but your work and craftsmanship makes me want.
One tip to avoid a sanding operation. Remove your parts from the mold, do your trimming and hole cutting, then remove the peel ply when you're ready to bond the parts together. That should leave you with a good surface for bonding without having to sand. That's how we build airplanes out of composites. You only need to sand if you remove the peel ply too early and let it get contaminated.
There are two types of Peel Ply in the industry. If you use the type for bonding then the surface finish is rough. I would imagine he's using the type that leaves a very smooth finish. Thus the need to sand before bonding. He's been around the block on making parts, so I am sure he knows what he's doing.
Question: Why follow the internal ribs and contours of the original sheet metal part? They're there to add rigidity while conforming to the limitations of press machines and welding requirements.
Why replicate those exact shapes on a one-off hand-made part?
Any external surface must be the exact shape for obvious reasons (Originality and/or aesthetics).
Only the mating internal surfaces need to follow the original design... Painstakingly re-creating the internal surface structure seems redundant.
Any thoughts?
@@vikassm because he did a Mold of the entire inner support areas. Doesnt want to go through all the extra work of modifying things when the inner stuff already has great mold quality paint. And these arent one off. He sells them to people that want to buy.
@@vikassm For mounting points, electrics and what not. I doubt every part is going onto a car that's track built.
@@vikassm Without the inner part you need some kind of other structure or the outer part alone could wobble and bend diagonally. It also helps to build some thickness.
Pretty sure the part even with the inner will be shallower on the body of the car than the surrounding original parts, though.
It looks amazing 🥵 Every time I see your videos I want to get into making my own pieces, but I know it's not as simple as you make it look
Love the setup you have, question when trimming the panels how do you dispose of the carbon dust you collect from the vac?
Did you let the clear cure before you put on first layer of the carbon ? Did you made any preparations of the cured clear before put on the carbon ?
Awesome work. Love to see the process. Do you have a video on how you made the molds?
Also, have you considered making rear quarter panels for your new edge race car? I was wondering if that’s possible.
No on both. It’s possible but not worth it.
I love watching your videos, I am looking at getting into doing this for my self as a result. I did have a question though from when you did the outer shell, did the resin really almost explode into the part where it went very quickly or was that just the time lapse? the reason i ask is because all the others seem a ton slower. Thanks for your time and keep up the great work :)
I don’t remember any issues so must have been Timelapse
Do you always clearly see where to cut in the end or is there a risk of easily ruining the cut?
When the trunk is installed, will it sit significantly lower than the (original) fenders surrounding it?
Beautiful work…. What brand clear coat do you use… Thanks
Great friend. Can you tell me the set point temperature of your oven when curving?
Is there a reason why you dont leave the outer skin in the mold, glue in the underside (potentually you can use vaccum bagfor clamping) and only than take it out ?
Interested to learn as that is how we did large assemblies in marine production to make sure the outer skin doesnt deform.
Beautiful work by the way. A pleasure looking at someone doing such clean work.
Definitely a possible way to bond stuff. I pull them cause I don’t have enough clamps that can clear the depth of the flange. Simple as that.
Thats impressive, excellent work man, i highly advise you to make carbon hood and fenders for new supra. The market is full of bolted fiber glass parts but if you can make a complete part that will be a great business for you. God bless you
Excellent video. What thickness was the carbon you used for this layup? (huge fan of the plate carrier as a tool holder too)
Wowwwww
Impressive...
I would like to know what kind of glue did you aplied on rivets and when you paste 2 carbon parts...
I would like glue scrows on my little proyects...
Fantastic build!! Thank you for sharing
Not sure if anyone on here has asked. But would you consider taking on a small project to do side mirrors?
Awesome work! This makes me want to carbon my entire Z4. Lol.
What carbon fiber fabric do you use and which spray adhesive? It looks that you can manipulate it really well around corners and details. Great work and nice channel!
Looks like he was using clear coat as adhesive on the outer part. Not sure about the inner part.
First time seeing your videos. I really appreciate the attention to keeping it clean all throughout the process. Keep up the beautiful work man!
Big thums up for this video, love how you make it all look manageble.
Always knocking out of the park. well done!
Is that really clear coat you spray on the mold before applying the fiber? Isn't it release agent?
How did you get the plastic Molde ?
Cool. But everybody make the surface shine, how to make it matte?.
Hello! What varnish did you apply as the first layer into the matrix?
Is there a reason you use overaized bag and have big pockets inside? Also is there somekinda pattern that you place the fibers?
What spray do you apply to get the carbon to stick to the mold? Do you have a video on the products that you use?
Hey love your work but i use the 3m high tack spray adhisive 71. Its for infusion its better than 77. The resin dissolves it ant pushes out......
Two questions:
1) I have seen some really great "maker" videos by you which includes product you sell. Is your goal to empower folks to make their own custom stuff or give folks a peek at what goes into the making of your parts?
2) The tactical vest. Seen you wear it a few times in videos. Is it a convenient place to store tools as you work?
1. Both. 2. Yes
Great work! I'm about to try this for my 1961 Lincoln Continental, so this was ver helpful.
Great video man, thanks for sharing you process. Is that a Clear Epoxy Gelcoat or a 2K Clear coat you put in the topside mould first
I was going to ask the same
Nice one! What is it that you lay on the backside of the first layer to keep it from fraying ? It looks like tape but you spray tack it ?
Introducing me from Indonesia, I would like to ask, what adhesive do you use to glue the two sides, and how strong is the adhesive
I built a custom steel hood for my Subaru Baja with a larger scoop out of a newer STI and have someone wanting me to do the same for their 22 Outback. These one-offs are not profitable at all so I'm trying to gather as much info about composites as I can in hopes of reproducing a few. Thanks for the good time lapse of the process!
Love your work. Can you please let me know what bonding agent do you use with the caulking gun to bond both pieces.
Panel bond.
which brand of release agent do you use before putting carbon fiber cloth , its available in EBAY ?
Thanks,
Hi, what is the spray can that you are using ? Is that adhesive or spray based resin?
Amazing work as always. What in-mold clear and epoxy do you use?
Hello 👋 ,,can one use a tabletop epoxy resin to make carbon fiber parts or there is a specific resin
wow thats amazing i always wanted to see how carbon fiber parts are made now i know its a long hard labores process i want 2 get as much carbon fiber on my car as i can 2 make it lighter after watching this video i have a new found respect n admiration for carbon fiber and your work u r a very good craftsman
How do you make your molds? Do you already have a video on that?
Can you use butter as a release agent?
Never tried it but in theory it may work.
congratulations on the work, How do you manufacture the matrices? Do you use the original part as malde?
Great video. If you need to use threaded inserts on your carbon panels, can you install regular rivnuts? Or are there special threaded inserts you would recommend for carbon panels (like splitters)
Depends what pull out strength you will need.
@@ajhartmanaero for this application its on the edge of a splitter just to close the gap to the bumper - not structural. But more curious in your experience with threaded inserts and CF in general.
NICE !! What are you using for a release agent? Did you put clear coat down on the mould before you laid up the carbon cloth? Thanks for sharing. 10 /10. From New Zealand
Say you wanted to mold a duct for a rear-mounted Radiator. Or hood louvers. How do you add mods to a negative mold?
Gotta do a split mold.
I have question .why you didn’t laying the carbon fibre just one piece on ??
Hey man. Any chance u could possibly make a video on how u created the mold?
Not on this part since mold is done but will do some mold videos in the near future.
How many degree in your oven ? and it's just cure faster or it has another purpose ?
I watched your video alot and hopefully, i will open my one day
Thanks
Very well done - where do you buy the bonding fasteners? Seems like hard to find, especially in metric sizes.
Whats the grey tape thing you put on the wdge of the carbon layout pieces
Is that the 3M gun you are using to spray your pre cote , if do you like or would you go with something different? I'm using a harbor freight $20 gun but you have to adjust the fan almost every time
It’s a $25 gun from Amazon and about 5 years old haha
Wow, that's a lot of meticulous work! I would totally destroy that panel at every step of the job... Nice work!!
You are doing very good quality. Hello from Ukraine)
Did you use clear polyester gelcoat at the beginning? Or is it epoxy?
Love the videos!! 🔥🔥🔥 Soundtrack too 😂 Who is it
This looks incredible, and your craftsmanship is above any other I’ve seen! How do you make such large molds for your parts though?
I make them myself. It’s just a basic fiberglass mold.
@@ajhartmanaeroHi mate, long shot replying to a 10 month old comment but I could use some tips and advice. Is there any way I can reach out to you to ask some basic questions?
Watching the time lapse infusion is so satisfying !
Why do you only apply clear coat to the outer layer
Such nice work, you make it look so easy to do. Very nice work.
craftsmanship, good work!!
Did you use panel adhesive that the body shops use to mate door skins?
Yes
How much would an mold this size (in this case 2 molds) cost in materials to create? And how much the carbon fiber end product in materials?
Where do you get the molds? I have searched and searched and can't find anything....thanks!
I made them.
What clear coat are you using? gelcoat? Thanks!
What kind of cutting bits do you use in your dremal when cutting and trimming carbon fiber?
Sir will you ship in manila?
How do you know where to trim up to for good panel gaps with the existing panels on the car?
When you make your mold you leave an outline of the oem part.
Man that looks awesome, wish you made camaro parts. How do you go about making the molds?
How about plan your spiral tubing to infuse it better? Great work, just a tip 😀
I don’t get it.
@@ajhartmanaero you can run the spiral tubing around the sides as well as the bottom, which will infuse everything a lot quicker. 😉
@@pyrothefirst you can infuse to fast.
Your channel has been a big help. Do you degas your resin before infusion?
No
Holy crap. Next level man. Great job.
At which parts of a part must u add reinforcement
You're a real pro
Love the way you work
One day wanna be like you
Awesome 👌
AJ
can show your plug making? Tks
I did on my airbox lid series.
Good job, man!
Awesome Video 👍👍
What size Vacuum Pump do you need for this?
That's badass ! Also that's quite the wooded shop you have there, It shows a lot of creativity, I'm gonna like and sub and check you out, I like what I seen...
Do you wish your flanges where larger or is all about the same to work with? I only ask because I'm about to make my s550 trunk mold for my 350.
They are sufficient on this mold.
Amazing!! How many hours do they take you?
Wondering what kind of clearcoat you sprayed in the mould AJ?
Amazing skills man!
We need to talk about maybe making me a carbon fiber bumper cover for my 13' SS 1LE...
If you cover the expense of the mold we could do it.
@@ajhartmanaero I will be in touch soon !!
Do you make carbon parts for cars not listed on your site. I have some things I would like see about having made for my 2015 Camaro LS?
What parts? We’re in the middle of a wing kit at the moment.
@@ajhartmanaero An engine cover and possible a rear spoiler that could have a wicker bill added to it
Great job, what adhesive are you using to secure the carbon to the mold?
Just a light spray tac
@@ajhartmanaerois it 3M 77?
AJ did you happen to make a video of the mould? i know there are tons of others on youtube that show you how. just curious.
I wasn’t doing videos when I did any of my large molds.
What clear gel coat do you use?
Do you degas your epoxy?
what release agent you using?
What was the difference in the amount of weight between the factory lid and this carbon fiber lid.
13-14 lbs if I remember right. I weigh it all in my wing mounting video.
@@ajhartmanaero ah ok thank you
How can i get started in this? This is all very new to me and i would like to make a business of my own out of this one day. Could anyone give any pointers?
Great work love the craftsmanship wish you sold one for the crown Vic make my pos look a lil better
do you have any videos on making molds
Dumb question, how come you dont see the overlap of the CF , on final product?
This video will explain it. th-cam.com/video/U-3CQdpYPxU/w-d-xo.html
@@ajhartmanaero 🙏🏽
How was the orange mold made? Can you show the process
Gonna be doing some molds soon that I’ll do videos of.
Great work looks amazing💪🏼
How much would you charge me to make a carbon trunk for a challenger? I'm local to you, only about 5 mins away
Where is the part where you made the mold?
Wasn’t doing videos back then. I’ll be doing some molds soon.
where can I find those stud things.