I wanted to buy a used from Harley but each one I had liked got sold. Ended up seeing a bike pop up on market place. It was a 2014 ultra limited decked out with full rineheart exhaust and intake plus every light changed out to custom dynamics. Great setup and only 5100 miles. What was even better was the price, at 13k I couldn’t beat it. Got everything I wanted including the color
The throttle cable broke on my 2020 iron 883 and left me stranded. Thank God for the warranty!! Harley came and picked up myself and the bike, got me home and fixed my bike under warranty. So things happen. A throttle cable rarely ever breaks but mine did (under warranty)👍
To the guy who did the work and spent the money to add all the mods I was going to do on my recently purchased used street bob. I tip my hat to you sir, much obliged
@@throttleblip9854 Without a doubt. About a month ago I sold a 15 road glide to guy with only a fair score and he got an amazing rate for 84 months. Kinda blew my mind.
Couldn’t afford to get started with a new Harley. But I got the model I wanted with low miles for the year, and the previous owner had similar taste and spent a good amount of money on smart things that I would have done. Plus, I got the proof on paper that they had everything done at the right time and at a Harley service department. Then, since it was affordable, I just did a couple of things to complete the extras, so I was fortunate to find a good one and the history and add ons were great. If you don’t have the means to buy a brand new street glide, but you shop around and take the time, you can have a good used bike experience. It’s better than sitting at home!
Same. I couldn’t justify pulling the trigger on a new street glide but found a used 2017 special for about $8,000 less than new and the previous owner had done some nice mods at a Harley service department. If you’re willing to shop around and wait a couple weeks there are some fantastic deals on used Harley’s and more often than not they hold their value.
I like the idea of that 2 year warranty. That piece of mind is priceless. The used prices vs the new is not that different. Especially if you are only looking at a 2 year difference. These are great videos, and I love the insight.
I bought my bike used. 2018 model I bought in 2019. I believe it was a demo bike. Only had 700 miles on and still blank canvass from the factory. Purchased the extended warranty and enjoyed ever since. The only thing I would add to what your saying is to ask where the bike came from (ex, trade in, another dealer, etc). I think you used comments about used bikes was spot on. I say always get the entended warranty especially with used bikes
I'm looking at buying a 883 within the next year and thing about used if I can find one with low miles and save on the purchase price I would be able to put the parts I would want like an overstuffed seat and braided brake lines.
Being 21 and in college with a part time job buying new is just the right way to go especially when you need constant transport and can’t afford to buy parts every time a used bike breaks down. And financing is great for credit and depreciation won’t really matter due to pretty much keeping the bike until graduation and a better paying job is available. Great investment I think
In new zealand we have a thing called a consumers guarantee act which is when you buy something new and it breaks legally it must be fixed or repaired if it is deemed a defect from the dealership or manufacturer. This law must be applied even if the consumer has a warantee or not
I watched this video needing to find out if buying a new touring bike any model with a M8 107 ( thats what I decided is best for my 2nd HD ) Do I have to ask if the oil pump has improved from previous problems in the beginning (2017 ) Additionally do I have to want it to be air cooled only or twin cooled Are there any other discussion I should know to bring up. I have my first bike 2008 dyna super glide custom that I love and will keep it. I now want a touring model I Like Rd., King Street glide with 107. If the road glide comes in that engine then I like that also. I just wanna know what to discuss to make the bike have a fresh start with the correct upgrades to any inferior parts that may have had issues in the past thank you
Perfect timing with this video I'm looking to buy a motorcycle and I'm looking at a Street Glide special but it's at a Indian dealership what are your thoughts about buying a Harley Davidson from a different manufacturer.. keep up the Great job your videos are super helpful thanks
Waldo G, It's no different than going to a Toyota dealer and buying a non Toyota vehicle. If you can't make the deal YOU want, walk on. There are plenty of used bikes out there.
only thing stopping me from buying used are the over inflated prices , when this price bubble popps and it will , people will be upside down on how much they owe versus what its worth.
I ride about 15-20K per year, however I have never had a brand new bike. I save up, pay cash, and I am very patient in my used search. Currently have 3 bikes. I will have another in 1-2 years. Unless inflation kicks us all in the nuts like I expect it to.
2021 road glide special stock 4K miles $31k 2023 same bike 29k. Seems they do not deprecate in 2023 it’s cheaper to buy new according to dealerships here In texas. It’s worth more after it leaves. How is that?
I go into a Harley dealer and they don't seem to want to sell bikes, just t-shirts and other gaudy crap. They may be able to tell I am an asshole consumer who cannot be manipulated. I wouldn't want to try to sell me anything.
Do you walk in with an attitude? I recently bought a new 2021 SGS and the sales people were awesome, not pushy but answered all of my questions. To get respect you give respect, they are doing their job. you go in with an attitude like you are a big bad biker and the commission they make is no longer worth the hassle.
@@snakebite6511 I didn't say anything. I did kind of keep intentionally low profile, which they may have sensed. I was in Florida and I wanted to buy, but I didn't want to pay shipping back to Oklahoma.
@@snakebite6511 I tried contacting my local Harley Dealer through their website a new bike 5 months ago. They still have not gotten back to me, though they love to spam me with merchandise ads. I may have made the mistake of selecting the Softail Standard, which tells them I do not want a gaudy $50k bike with tassels.
When I was a dealer tech I learned one big and important lesson. New cars and trucks WILL come in for warranty work at least once in their lifetime. These are assembled quickly and things get missed or a part (which is also assembled quickly on a line) will need attention. That is what the warranty is for. To fix everything and make it good. I imagine bikes are much the same.
Great Video! I believe it comes down to a person's financial situation and possibly wanting to test out different bikes before shelling out a bunch of money. I was lucky enough to have a couple of friends who let me take out different bikes from a GROM to a ZX14. I was able to take a couple of Harleys out for a rip and fell in love. I bought a new Low Rider S which my bank account allowed haha. I agree on wanting a blank canvas and especially wanting to know what the bike has gone through
I like the idea of new because you never know on a low mileage bike how long it sat with dirty oil turning into sludge and drying out of the parts inside.
Just subscribed to the channel! Awesome content.. Bought a vrod night special last season.. barn yard find 07 with only 5k miles on it one owner. Now I'm looking to get into a street glide or road glide haha
Much appreciated! That is definitely a solid find. How long had it been sitting? Just curious what all it took to get it going again. Go ride them both before you buy, the internet is full of opinions on which is better. ahaha
@@throttleblip9854 Sitting in a heated garage mint just needed new tires. And yeah I will be riding both just don't like the looks of the road glide but interested to see it on a windy day for the difference.
Great video! Question--if I’m looking for a used bike, what reassures me that the sales dept didn’t cheat any repairs for the used bike that is to be put on the showroom. Example, if 10 issues were found by the service dept and sales dept only wanted to fix 8, where’s does the integrity lay?
It should lay in the name of the dealership. Skimping on what would have to be a small repair (as most people would notice major undone repairs) wouldn't make much sense for a dealership. The things I've seen skimped on were never really a huge deal, say grips that were worn but still usable. That doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Definitely take the bike for a test ride before buying and depending on how much you know about bikes, maybe bring a friend to help you check it out.
I see a lot of used bikes, with lower mileage, at dealers, posted with almost the same price as a new one. If the price is that close, wouldn't you go new every day?
My recommendation is, BUY NEW. Especially in these crazy times. iv seen used bikes the same price as new. also, warranty is definitely a plus. my 2020 softail standard charging system took a shit at 3000 miles, and turned out to be the regulator. my bike was in the shop for a month, and 5 days due to part being on backorder. if the deal is to good, buy used, but i highly recommend new.
Good content, good advice- nice job. Given current market conditions at the moment, I'm not sure buying a one or two year old used bike makes a lot of financial sense, at least in my neck of the woods. Dealer prices are almost the same as a brand new bike with a full warranty and that's figuring in the surcharge (first $400 and now $900) on a new bike. I think I understand why- lack of new inventory caused dealers to pay top dollar for used bikes so they'd have something to sell; they've got to recoup that investment and make a profit. Not sure how it's all going to play out long term other than expecting some hefty increases in H-D's 2022 suggested MSRP's when that surcharge plus any additional inflation is figured into the base prices. I don't blame Harley, everyone is in the same boat especially if you manufacture or build things. When a 2x4 costs almost $7 ... strange times we live in.
New Harley's are ridiculously expensive! And the bad thing is, you have to spend thousands that Harley shouldn't had on the bike.So the cost of the bike, the add on's, you have spent 40 grand and more on a new bike. I am a HD retired Mechanic and like the car industry, the motorcycle industry has gotten out of hand!!!!!
My biggest concern about used bikes in general is that I don’t know how they were treated, if they were broken in properly or if they were serviced properly. I think these facts could impact long term performance and reliability.
100% right. No guarantees even if you really look the bike over. I like that Harley is offering a certified pre owned option, that's a step in the right direction.
Cool good video man. One thing I always wondered on these used bikes that have aftermarket parts. Does it make that bike more valuable? for example I've heard people say why do you pay for the aftermarket parts twice. Twice being the second time it's sold. I bought a used Sportster low miles 3750 miles that already had pipes backrest luggage rack windshield air cleaner engine guard it was basically set up exactly how I wanted it so with all those extra parts does that increase the price or would that increase the price of the bike? When I tell people what I paid for it which was less than what they were asking they look at me like I'm crazy because it's a quote unquote sportster but like I said it spoke to me when I saw it on the floor and it was set up exactly how I would like Thanks man. By the way I'm on the bike 6 years now and love it. Definitely looking hard at the Pan ams and the Fat bobs now lol
Was hoping you would have used an older model used bike, not one model year difference. A bike with only 1,500 miles on it and one year old is almost new.
Harley "oh the add on decrees the value of your trade" Also harley "this used bike already has a bunch of good add ons thats why its more." I hate the dealers. Its a business sure but screwing customers is no good.
heres a tip....if youre OVER 200lbs and 5"10"...forget...sportsters...forget EVO's.....forget CVO's and dynas.....unless you WANT to look like a kid riding a bicycle...
What’s your email I’m new to your channel Like to send you pic of my performance 2018 SGS Good video, good info soon I will be buying a new 2021 or 2022 RGS Sounds like you work at that dealership if you do maybe I can reach you there if you like
I always buy my Harleys from non-Harley dealerships. You’ll pass the “Harley tax and crap warranty. Sorry bro but harleys are dope, the dealerships are cancer and ruining harleys for the next gen. You reap what you sow in the long run.
@@throttleblip9854 i live in Dallas Texas very populated area. All dealerships in my area are just something else. I’m not going to drive a hour away for a decent one. If y’all start holding each other accountable we wouldn’t be here. I like your dealership I would buy from y’all.
Really? Let's be real . . . at least halfway through the next year since this video has been made, I see absolutely no reason to buy a used Harley-Davidson. They are all priced right about the same as the new models, which makes the warranty alone worth any slight . . . if any . . . difference in price you might find. Unless you're getting a fantastic deal from a buddy, family member, or someone else you know or trust, just buy new.
What you didn’t mention is the dealerships ridiculous fees now I understand I have to pay tax tag and title I understand shipping but I bought a new sportster S $15,000 bike and out the door and I paid cash it was over 20 grand where is the other five grand coming from??? Thanks for any input you can put in it isn’t a dealer I dealt with I went to three different dealers it was the same thing it off of them
How can you give someone a thumbs down who works to help other people to live their passion? Very good video, like always, thanks
I wanted to buy a used from Harley but each one I had liked got sold. Ended up seeing a bike pop up on market place. It was a 2014 ultra limited decked out with full rineheart exhaust and intake plus every light changed out to custom dynamics. Great setup and only 5100 miles. What was even better was the price, at 13k I couldn’t beat it. Got everything I wanted including the color
The throttle cable broke on my 2020 iron 883 and left me stranded. Thank God for the warranty!! Harley came and picked up myself and the bike, got me home and fixed my bike under warranty. So things happen. A throttle cable rarely ever breaks but mine did (under warranty)👍
To the guy who did the work and spent the money to add all the mods I was going to do on my recently purchased used street bob. I tip my hat to you sir, much obliged
This is always a good topic of discussion.
And very situational. I've seen plenty of examples that made sense for new and used based on the bike and the buyer.
@@throttleblip9854 Without a doubt. About a month ago I sold a 15 road glide to guy with only a fair score and he got an amazing rate for 84 months. Kinda blew my mind.
Definitely navigating new waters in the bike world right now
@@throttleblip9854 indeed my friend. Appreciate the content brother! 👌
Couldn’t afford to get started with a new Harley. But I got the model I wanted with low miles for the year, and the previous owner had similar taste and spent a good amount of money on smart things that I would have done. Plus, I got the proof on paper that they had everything done at the right time and at a Harley service department. Then, since it was affordable, I just did a couple of things to complete the extras, so I was fortunate to find a good one and the history and add ons were great. If you don’t have the means to buy a brand new street glide, but you shop around and take the time, you can have a good used bike experience. It’s better than sitting at home!
Same. I couldn’t justify pulling the trigger on a new street glide but found a used 2017 special for about $8,000 less than new and the previous owner had done some nice mods at a Harley service department. If you’re willing to shop around and wait a couple weeks there are some fantastic deals on used Harley’s and more often than not they hold their value.
I like the idea of that 2 year warranty. That piece of mind is priceless. The used prices vs the new is not that different. Especially if you are only looking at a 2 year difference. These are great videos, and I love the insight.
This is a fantastic source of info. I am considering just this situation at the moment, these are really helpful points 🎉
Thanks. Great information, well presented.
Scott.
I bought my bike used. 2018 model I bought in 2019. I believe it was a demo bike. Only had 700 miles on and still blank canvass from the factory. Purchased the extended warranty and enjoyed ever since. The only thing I would add to what your saying is to ask where the bike came from (ex, trade in, another dealer, etc). I think you used comments about used bikes was spot on. I say always get the entended warranty especially with used bikes
best advice -- buy it from an individual. harley is going to slap $1500 onto the price of the bike every time.
I'm looking at buying a 883 within the next year and thing about used if I can find one with low miles and save on the purchase price I would be able to put the parts I would want like an overstuffed seat and braided brake lines.
Being 21 and in college with a part time job buying new is just the right way to go especially when you need constant transport and can’t afford to buy parts every time a used bike breaks down. And financing is great for credit and depreciation won’t really matter due to pretty much keeping the bike until graduation and a better paying job is available. Great investment I think
In NZ buying new you have to add $650.00 to the purchase price for the cost of the first service.
In new zealand we have a thing called a consumers guarantee act which is when you buy something new and it breaks legally it must be fixed or repaired if it is deemed a defect from the dealership or manufacturer. This law must be applied even if the consumer has a warantee or not
I watched this video needing to find out if buying a new touring bike any model with a M8 107 ( thats what I decided is best for my 2nd HD )
Do I have to ask if the oil pump has improved from previous problems in the beginning (2017 )
Additionally do I have to want it to be air cooled only or twin cooled
Are there any other discussion I should know to bring up.
I have my first bike 2008 dyna super glide custom that I love and will keep it. I now want a touring model I Like Rd., King Street glide with 107. If the road glide comes in that engine then I like that also. I just wanna know what to discuss to make the bike have a fresh start with the correct upgrades to any inferior parts that may have had issues in the past thank you
Pro tip... used is the same price as new right now, and odds are, you won't get better rates to buy new even if you have a good score.
I bought a used Fat boy 114 a few weeks ago, it was way less than getting a new one.
Perfect timing with this video I'm looking to buy a motorcycle and I'm looking at a Street Glide special but it's at a Indian dealership what are your thoughts about buying a Harley Davidson from a different manufacturer.. keep up the Great job your videos are super helpful thanks
Waldo G, It's no different than going to a Toyota dealer and buying a non Toyota vehicle. If you can't make the deal YOU want, walk on. There are plenty of used bikes out there.
i KNEW you had class the moment you said Street Glide...
only thing stopping me from buying used are the over inflated prices , when this price bubble popps and it will , people will be upside down on how much they owe versus what its worth.
Yeah the market is nuts right now. I see bikes I sold a few years ago selling for as much or more than they sold for then. It's crazy!
Watch out the door price on new. It’s now around $3000 for fee’s. Turning cold on new.
I ride about 15-20K per year, however I have never had a brand new bike. I save up, pay cash, and I am very patient in my used search. Currently have 3 bikes. I will have another in 1-2 years. Unless inflation kicks us all in the nuts like I expect it to.
Thanks for making this informative and helpful video
Glad it was helpful!
2021 road glide special stock 4K miles $31k 2023 same bike 29k. Seems they do not deprecate in 2023 it’s cheaper to buy new according to dealerships here In texas. It’s worth more after it leaves. How is that?
I go into a Harley dealer and they don't seem to want to sell bikes, just t-shirts and other gaudy crap. They may be able to tell I am an asshole consumer who cannot be manipulated. I wouldn't want to try to sell me anything.
Do the sales guys greet you when you're looking at bikes?
@@throttleblip9854 no, but there is a lot of activity there, just not around the bikes. They push everything but bikes.
Do you walk in with an attitude? I recently bought a new 2021 SGS and the sales people were awesome, not pushy but answered all of my questions. To get respect you give respect, they are doing their job. you go in with an attitude like you are a big bad biker and the commission they make is no longer worth the hassle.
@@snakebite6511 I didn't say anything. I did kind of keep intentionally low profile, which they may have sensed. I was in Florida and I wanted to buy, but I didn't want to pay shipping back to Oklahoma.
@@snakebite6511 I tried contacting my local Harley Dealer through their website a new bike 5 months ago. They still have not gotten back to me, though they love to spam me with merchandise ads. I may have made the mistake of selecting the Softail Standard, which tells them I do not want a gaudy $50k bike with tassels.
How much money should you have down on a motorcycle?
When I was a dealer tech I learned one big and important lesson. New cars and trucks WILL come in for warranty work at least once in their lifetime. These are assembled quickly and things get missed or a part (which is also assembled quickly on a line) will need attention. That is what the warranty is for. To fix everything and make it good. I imagine bikes are much the same.
Without a doubt for the same reasons you listed.
Great Video! I believe it comes down to a person's financial situation and possibly wanting to test out different bikes before shelling out a bunch of money. I was lucky enough to have a couple of friends who let me take out different bikes from a GROM to a ZX14. I was able to take a couple of Harleys out for a rip and fell in love. I bought a new Low Rider S which my bank account allowed haha. I agree on wanting a blank canvas and especially wanting to know what the bike has gone through
I like the idea of new because you never know on a low mileage bike how long it sat with dirty oil turning into sludge and drying out of the parts inside.
Just subscribed to the channel! Awesome content..
Bought a vrod night special last season.. barn yard find 07 with only 5k miles on it one owner. Now I'm looking to get into a street glide or road glide haha
Much appreciated! That is definitely a solid find. How long had it been sitting? Just curious what all it took to get it going again. Go ride them both before you buy, the internet is full of opinions on which is better. ahaha
@@throttleblip9854 Sitting in a heated garage mint just needed new tires. And yeah I will be riding both just don't like the looks of the road glide but interested to see it on a windy day for the difference.
Great video! Question--if I’m looking for a used bike, what reassures me that the sales dept didn’t cheat any repairs for the used bike that is to be put on the showroom. Example, if 10 issues were found by the service dept and sales dept only wanted to fix 8, where’s does the integrity lay?
It should lay in the name of the dealership. Skimping on what would have to be a small repair (as most people would notice major undone repairs) wouldn't make much sense for a dealership. The things I've seen skimped on were never really a huge deal, say grips that were worn but still usable. That doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Definitely take the bike for a test ride before buying and depending on how much you know about bikes, maybe bring a friend to help you check it out.
go to a reputable dealer, if the price seems too good to be true, there might be a reason
I always ask for the tech recommendations when the bike was run through the shop
I see a lot of used bikes, with lower mileage, at dealers, posted with almost the same price as a new one. If the price is that close, wouldn't you go new every day?
My recommendation is, BUY NEW. Especially in these crazy times. iv seen used bikes the same price as new. also, warranty is definitely a plus. my 2020 softail standard charging system took a shit at 3000 miles, and turned out to be the regulator. my bike was in the shop for a month, and 5 days due to part being on backorder. if the deal is to good, buy used, but i highly recommend new.
I definitely agree.
Good content, good advice- nice job.
Given current market conditions at the moment, I'm not sure buying a one or two year old used bike makes a lot of financial sense, at least in my neck of the woods. Dealer prices are almost the same as a brand new bike with a full warranty and that's figuring in the surcharge (first $400 and now $900) on a new bike. I think I understand why- lack of new inventory caused dealers to pay top dollar for used bikes so they'd have something to sell; they've got to recoup that investment and make a profit. Not sure how it's all going to play out long term other than expecting some hefty increases in H-D's 2022 suggested MSRP's when that surcharge plus any additional inflation is figured into the base prices. I don't blame Harley, everyone is in the same boat especially if you manufacture or build things. When a 2x4 costs almost $7 ... strange times we live in.
I am absolutely in favor of the new, the Harleys depreciate very little.
New Harley's are ridiculously expensive! And the bad thing is, you have to spend thousands that Harley shouldn't had on the bike.So the cost of the bike, the add on's, you have spent 40 grand and more on a new bike. I am a HD retired Mechanic and like the car industry, the motorcycle industry has gotten out of hand!!!!!
Well done ! Very informative.
My biggest concern about used bikes in general is that I don’t know how they were treated, if they were broken in properly or if they were serviced properly. I think these facts could impact long term performance and reliability.
100% right. No guarantees even if you really look the bike over. I like that Harley is offering a certified pre owned option, that's a step in the right direction.
If financing your can get a better rate on new
Great topic thanks for the info.
Glad it was helpful!
Cool good video man. One thing I always wondered on these used bikes that have aftermarket parts. Does it make that bike more valuable? for example I've heard people say why do you pay for the aftermarket parts twice. Twice being the second time it's sold. I bought a used Sportster low miles 3750 miles that already had pipes backrest luggage rack windshield air cleaner engine guard it was basically set up exactly how I wanted it so with all those extra parts does that increase the price or would that increase the price of the bike? When I tell people what I paid for it which was less than what they were asking they look at me like I'm crazy because it's a quote unquote sportster but like I said it spoke to me when I saw it on the floor and it was set up exactly how I would like Thanks man. By the way I'm on the bike 6 years now and love it. Definitely looking hard at the Pan ams and the Fat bobs now lol
Thank you well done.
Another good video thank you
Just keep on mind new bike u have to pay for delivery fee and assembling fee on top of price
Was hoping you would have used an older model used bike, not one model year difference. A bike with only 1,500 miles on it and one year old is almost new.
I appreciate the effort. It’s just hard to believe all you say when , bottom line, you make money if you sell new vs used.
Everyone wants to make their bike their own.not Everyone should be wrenching on any bike.leave it to the pro's it's wroth the money.
Exactly. I can do most basic add ons, slip ons, etc but I have NO business doing engine work. haha
New I think is less headaches.
Used bikes are expensive right now almost msrp .
Harley "oh the add on decrees the value of your trade"
Also harley "this used bike already has a bunch of good add ons thats why its more."
I hate the dealers. Its a business sure but screwing customers is no good.
heres a tip....if youre OVER 200lbs and 5"10"...forget...sportsters...forget EVO's.....forget CVO's and dynas.....unless you WANT to look like a kid riding a bicycle...
What would you ride then? lol
His 400 lb wife probably
30k for a touring bike is insane , underpowered, poor lighting , poor suspension
Invest in the economy. Buy new.
All HDs need catch cans. The top of the pistons after a year look like an abused cast iron pan.
If it doesn’t have a catch can since new, pass.
What’s your email
I’m new to your channel
Like to send you pic of my performance 2018 SGS
Good video, good info soon I will be buying a new 2021 or 2022 RGS
Sounds like you work at that dealership if you do maybe I can reach you there if you like
I always buy my Harleys from non-Harley dealerships. You’ll pass the “Harley tax and crap warranty. Sorry bro but harleys are dope, the dealerships are cancer and ruining harleys for the next gen. You reap what you sow in the long run.
I hate that bad experiences at dealerships have made you jaded to all of them but I get it.
@@throttleblip9854 i live in Dallas Texas very populated area. All dealerships in my area are just something else. I’m not going to drive a hour away for a decent one. If y’all start holding each other accountable we wouldn’t be here. I like your dealership I would buy from y’all.
Really? Let's be real . . . at least halfway through the next year since this video has been made, I see absolutely no reason to buy a used Harley-Davidson. They are all priced right about the same as the new models, which makes the warranty alone worth any slight . . . if any . . . difference in price you might find. Unless you're getting a fantastic deal from a buddy, family member, or someone else you know or trust, just buy new.
HD is dead! Nobody’s buying their overpriced junk anymore. I live in SWFL and CL is flooded with HD bikes that nobody wants.
What is everyone riding down there?
@@throttleblip9854 Amy Hermanns is just a troll, rambling on with the Harley hate. They show up on the Harley vids all the time.
What you didn’t mention is the dealerships ridiculous fees now I understand I have to pay tax tag and title I understand shipping but I bought a new sportster S $15,000 bike and out the door and I paid cash it was over 20 grand where is the other five grand coming from??? Thanks for any input you can put in it isn’t a dealer I dealt with I went to three different dealers it was the same thing it off of them