Harley Davidson - Is the "Special" worth it?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ก.ค. 2024
- In the video I break down all the differences in the Special and Standard model Street Glide. All of the same differences should apply to the Road Glide models.
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I got the Standard simply because I didn't want all blacked out this time around, I wanted chrome. I have the upgraded BOOM touch display and ABS though, as well as the Day Maker headlight. Beyond that, the 107 is far more powerful than the 96 in my Springer and I don't find myself needing more power. It's plenty fast and very smooth. I could have gone full CVO had I really wanted, but I did not see the need. I got everything I wanted and nothing I didn't.
And for us that like chrome AND all the goodies there's now the chrome version of the Special. Well played Harley. 👍🏻
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Who gives a shit what you did. It sounds like you are trying to justify to yourself why you bought an ugly bike.
Agreed 100%... I love the chrome work on a bike. A Standard for me. I upgraded the Boom touch as well.
Great vid. Without doing the research, I've wondered for a long time about this exact comparison.
You nailed it!
Great comparision. I have a 2020 SG special and the extras were 100% worth the difference in price. A motorcycle is a luxury item...essentially a toy for most of us. If I'm going to buy something for my entertainment I'm not gonna scrimp on it just to save a couple grand. If I can't afford the one I like and want then I don't need one at all.
Totally agree, Tracey.
I dig the new dash/gas cap on the 21s. I went from a 16 Ultra to a 17 streetglide Special and got the bells and whistles, and glad that year it was non-stretched bags.
Yeah I'm a fan of that new cap design for sure. I wish they did a Street Glide in the Black Hole design like the CVO
You answered all my questions! Great video
Good to hear! Thanks!
I just bought the street glide special got it Snake venom also has the rds option. I can't wait to ride it. For what I've read about it, it's a sweet ride.
What you read was correct. I LOVE the street glide. I’ve owned one myself. Enjoy it and take care of it!
I like the river rock gray. I haven’t seen that as much yet. But, I do like that Special for sure.
I like the Streetglide Special. I like the attention to detail from front to rear. Looking at getting mine around mid July. Nice bike.
In 2018 I traded in my 2000 Ultra Classic for a street glide sp. because the sp. had a bigger engine and bigger infotainment screen than the regular street glide. I also got the detachable tour pack. It's like having two bikes. With the tour pack on it's a long haul cruiser. With it off it's like a sports car. It now has 40k miles and I am still smiling
The engine and screen are what sell me also!
I got the 2021 Street Glide Standard in River Rock Gray, i did get the upgraded Boom touch display and ABS. I like the chrome, the standard bags and the blank slate that is the standard.
The 107 vs 114 is little difference in power. Ive done a fair amount of work to it, changed out to the SE Ventilator air filter, the full exhaust system including the headers, went with Cobra Neighbor Haters and Cobra headers, did a tune, changed out the shocks to Legend, Adaptive Daymaker headlight, got rig of the seat and added a Mustang with removable passenger seat, added saddlebag lights and some low profile fairing lights, saddlebag liners from Advanblack and a nice shelf added to my bags to keep things organized, bought a SE8 515 cam but not in yet, looking to add colour matched lowers and a razor trunk - Not sure if i will go with Harley or Advanblack. Changed out the grips to Harley AirFlow.
Most of the work i did I would have had to do on the Special also.
I also have a 2009 Rocker C with a 96" and a 2014 Wide Glide with a 103" - The 107 has poor to burn.
My next bike will be a Street Glide with a larger version of the Revolution Max engine, when that is released, i will have one in my garage (hopefully it doesnt come in the CVO 1st as i dont really see any value for the price difference), i like the blank slate i can make my own.
Thought about getting a Challenger but after looking at it and sitting on it, kinda felt like i was buying a Toyota - Very plastic feeling
Yeah, I think you are right about the upgrade. It is worth the extra money.
I bought one 3 months ago. Have 2500 miles on her. And I’m still watching the vids in the garage sitting right next to it. Lol. 10 points to SGS. Extraordinary motorcycle.
Definitely my favorite Harley I’ve ever owned.
Gotcha ya
I went with a left over 2019 SGS in Barracuda Silver that came with V&H Raider 450 Slip-ons and 4 PT docking. They also lowered it with Burly shocks for me. I got it for $27,895 out the door. No sales tax cause I live in NH.
That Snake Venom color is really nice!
Yep! I think Timms had the one they got for a day before it sold. haha
just another great video, thanks brother👍🏻
I have a 2020 SGS. I went with it strictly for the bigger motor. I don't even need the info system. I didn't want the 107 then have to stage 4 it because the longevity of the M8 at that level has not been proven. I did put the stage 2 kit in along with Feuling oil pump, cam plate and lifters. I have the Krause inverted front end which comes with Ohlins internals and Ohlins on the rear also. Added Kraus fly Moto bars and a lucky Daves seat. Waiting on my Bassani exhaust to arrive. I know it's a lot of money but I'm 62 and retired. This is my fourth Harley and I decided do do something for myself. I will say I do seem to see a lot more Road Glides these days than Street glides. Nice informative video.
That sounds like a killer build dude!! Would love to see it.
I'm a big fan of that SG Special. It looks fantastic!
Agree. Nice to see both side by side
I have a 2020 Street Glide Special in river rock gray denim and love it. The only gripe that I have is for the extra money I would have expected LED lights, a completed Streamline collection for foot controls and grips and then a second key fob. For the money it is really cheesy for Harley to not have those options standard.
I love my River Rock Grey, I'm happy with it.
That SGS in black and Grey looks fantastic!! Although I do like the centre console better than the gas cap... a flush mount would look better. Both great bikes ..I would be happy with either one.
Same here!
@@throttleblip9854 thanks for the reply...great review also!
Why don’t they just let customer decide the options? Have a base price, and let me add the the extras I prefer? The 2 model thing is weird.
awsome review!!
Glad you enjoyed it
Standard for me. 👍
HD has got to do something about these prices to attract younger riders !! A RGS with Snake Venom is $37K + %13 HST up here in Canada ...So call it $41K out the door to sit in my garage 6 months of the year ?? Crazy !
I have a 2019 street glide special! And I love the talon wheels so much better than the prodigy!!
I'm just the opposite, I love my prodigy wheels more than the talons on my 18 that I had before.
For the extra $$ better to buy the Ultra, with a detach tour pak. Way better value for the $$. Also I don't understand why the bars are not internal wired like on the Road Glides. Hate that gas cap on the side of the tank.
That may be the next video because I agree.
Can't stand where they put the gascap; very unsightly. So it lowered the console a little bit. Big Deal!
What about at the gaspump - now your bike has to face away from the pump, unless you don't mind
dragging the hose over your tank.
I know this is about the street glide, but I purchased a 2021 Road Glide standard in gauntlet grey, two weeks ago put 1800miles on it so far.
Personally I like the chrome, and the enforcer wheel, didn't want the extended saddle bags, got the GTS and RDRS for under MSRP. Yes the 114 would be great but I'll end up going aftermarket for jugs/cam
But the main thing is the color for me, and the only way to get gauntlet grey in the RG was in a standard.
I can only imagine how much more my primary and the bags would be scraped with the lower shocks. Still lookin to upgrade to legends
Similar for me, I really like the River Rock Gray and was only on the standard, the upgrades that came with the special didnt mean that much.
I still had to change out the seat, shocks, mufflers & heads and get it tuned, that would not have changed if i had bought the special no no thanks.
I am looking forward to a larger version of the Revolution Max engine added to a Street Glide and when that happens i guess im buying another.
You have a video on the “Limited” vs regular? I like the idea of water cooled but not willing to be forced to ride with lower fairings on it year round. I currently have a 2006 Ultra Classic Peace Officer Edition shrine bike.
I like the review, even though my style is almost opposite. Almost every point you gave to the special, I gave to the standard. I like the standard's wheels better, I like chrome, I don't like the glossy finish on the inner batwing, etc. Maybe the 114 would be nice, but I'm perfectly fine with the 107. I do agree with you on the stretched bags. Color options are a good thing, but since one of my favorite Harley colors is Billiard Red, my point goes to the standard. The end result for me is the FLHX in Billiard Red with the upgraded infotainment system. I bought it yesterday. Thanks for the informative review! 👍
Oh, and I agree on the Daymaker. I brought one home with me to install. So I added $1400 to the standard price for the headlight and infotainment system which was a better deal for me than adding $5000 for the special that I didn't like as much.
You know I'm kinda changing my mind on the inner fairing based on how much it throws sun in my face when riding! You are a perfect example of someone who shouldn't buy the special because like you said you got more of the things that YOU like and spent less money. ALWAYS weigh that stuff out.
@@throttleblip9854 that’s exactly why I’m not a fan of the glossy inner fairing. It looks great in the showroom and in a garage, but out in the sun? Not so much. And since I live in the Valley of the Sun, another point for the Standard.
I appreciate all your great videos. Thank you for doing them.
I actually prefer the standard bags. The stretched bags are pure style over substance. I've seen a fair number of specials with 2 into 1 aftermarket exhausts and it's not a good look. If the standard bike had stretched bags I bet they could sell the standard bags with an upcharge. :-)
@@michaelwhite5834 I didn’t consider 2 into 1 exhaust when I first got the bike. Now that I’ve had it a little while, I agree. Another point for my Standard.
Got the standard with the upgraded infotainment. Put stage II on it. I'm now blacking out everything except the motor and pipes. Wish harley did that stock.
I am debating of either staying with Harley, or go with a Goldwing. As a retired tech I have a lot of issues with Harley. If I stay with HD I would go with the Street Glide Special.
This is a TOUGH one! I like both but a 114 might fit a touring bike more. I havent ridden one yet but im guessing more torque? I like the rims on the standard better too.
I like the Harley Logo on the Special, and you're also getting a slightly better sound system.
I realized when I was editing I forgot to point that out. I love that 2 tone color.
Is it an upgraded stereo? I don't know about that. The Special has a different speaker grill, but I believe that the system is the same.
Definitely worth the extra money for the special IMO
I like the features of the Special and blacked out components, but I actually like the dash's matte black instead of the painted. I think it looks smoother and clean. But again, that is just me. I have a `17 special but have the 107 M8 engine. Also have the chrome look. Everything else is the special features. I love mine!
And the matte finish doesn't have so much glare when the sun hits it!
I think you could have given the Street Glide standard a point for bigger crash bar in the front. Looks more functional. That special line is so sleek and much better looking with the black. The chrome is over done with Harley anymore.
I have an 18 SGS with the 107 and a torque cam. Is it worth the upgrade to get the 114 and put a cam it in over the 107?
Hey! What about the suspension, besides the special coming with the lower shocks, what’s your opinion about the ride quality on one versus the other?
The ride with stock suspension on both sucks balls.first upgrade needed!
Most standards at dealerships have the GTS systems anyways.... you just said it as I was typing this lol
Went standard! I didn't see 5K difference and I am gonna fuck with it anyway! When I am done it will be big cubes!
Measure a stretch bag at the front end. It still looks deeper all over without getting to the obvious stretch at the rear.
When I bought my SGS in 2016 it was $22,000 in Velocity Red Sunglow
Is it just me or is harley gettin crazy on their pricing in a time when sales are down for them?I mean damn near 30k for a Street Glide?
Nope it's not you harley is over pricing everything 🙄 all that should come on basic platform is all sold separately the time you upgrade you would pay for a cvo limited makes no sense 🤔
4000 more it has a lot to offer pay for all the add ons and it’s more than 4000 who wants 5he average bike you all have not me if you spend 24000 what’s 28000 . I have to have the painted fairing led screen bigger motor better speakers mustache bar better paint day maker headlight . Better rims fancier bags come on 4000 more if your picking that apart spend 15000 on a 2015 with 20000 miles lol . Work harder save more and get want you want . I’ve been saving for 3 years I’m getting the 2 tone gray and black special. 29500 plus tax .
@@JeffCarsboatsatvs I agree with you Jeff. A year and a half ago I sold my 2005 Electra Glide Classic and bought a Stunning 2014 Street Glide Special with stage one, passenger back rest, custom dynamics LED driving lights LED headlight, in Mysterious Red Sunglow for $10,500. I could not be happier going from the TC88 to the high output TC 103.
@@marka2510 That is 100% the SMART WAY to buy a Harley. It really ios ....that says the guy that just took delivery on a 21 RGS for just over 30K . Then just put 7 hundo in slip ons another 7 to replace the stock tourture devise harley calls a seat. Another 250 to get a real wind screen. I'm just getting started too. I'm a idiot.
As someone considering getting one I had no idea how much they cost 🤯.
Honest opinion ! I am looking to buy a street glide from 2017 , but before to buy I will like to know if is worth it ! Can u tell me please your view about street glide from 2017 ? Those are easy comparing with road king ?
it actually boils down to... as you are looking at the bike.
how many things are you seeing you would want to change?
Are the changes going to be with Harley products?
only buy the specials or limited or CVOs if you are going to leave it exactly like that
with me it'll be a standard edition I will deck out over the next few years. bigger motor than they offer, different cams (and not the screaming eagle), different totally custom paint, change of fenders/saddlebags to much longer and deeper than Harley even offers, change of stereo to a much higher quality than HD offers, diff speakers etc etc etc. so all that "special" "limited" or CVO stuff would be a total waste of money.
Agree 100%!!!
Gotta have ABS brakes and Navigation, after that its all bling
Street Glide Standard all day long ! The 114 engine only gives you less than 5 more horses and a little less than 10 pounds of torque! I would prefer the 107 engine , less gas consumption and heat ! Also , the tech on the bike will be outdated in 2 years ! I would use my sena and apple phone and I don’t need HD TECH , street glide standard all day long ! Also, I want to make it my own, pulling parts off the special is dumb $$$
Reason why I bought my street glide I like the fairy close-up not like the Road glide like it’s farther away don’t get me wrong I like both
Standard take the savings and put legends suspension front and back before i buy a special i would just buy a limited again
Black Std with Larger Screen and the RDRS will do it for $4K cheaper.
Good points, however having a dealership tell you if the special is worth it is an oxymoron.
I’m so glad that I bought the SPECIAL in VENOM !! 😁😎
Nice man! Very popular color.
I like the Silver & Black Special!!! Go Raiders!!!
That’s so crazy how A 2021 standard has a old ass lookin infotainment system lol
Your point system is all personal feelings
Bigger screen bigger motor 19 in rim in front black finish on the gauge area better sounds
Standard rims would look really good on the special . I like both bikes except that green or what ever color that is
I agree!
hate the cheap new gas cap. looks like it belongs on a royal enfield. funny they're using up the old stock tank consoles on the standard instead of the special
I like the new gas cap. I thought the old one was stupid with the cap on the cap. And it looked like an old shit cap from a Hyundai or something. I wish they would have done the flush cap though.
Every penny!
The price difference according to the harley site is 6K. For that money I'd take the standard with the optional infotainment system. leaves me money for seat up grades. slip ons . etc.
I see a lot of that. Good call if you know what you want.
I think the standard looks better
Dang .. there's just something about this color that speaks to me.
The fine detail finishes on the Special are much better than the Standard.
Facts.
If the plan was to customize it, a standard with a blacked out motor would be the way to go. But why would HD offer that, makes too much sense!
Isn’t that he air filter different?
The one thing... and you didn't say why.... now its killing me!!! Why not the stretch bags?????
I went special because it came in the color I wanted.
of course hes gonna say that.... notice he didnt mention the price of either one ,,
LOL .50 seconds in I literally talk about that and then again at the end of the video. Also, as I’ve said many times also in the description of EVERY video, I don’t work for the dealership so I don’t make a dollar of any bike they sell. Back end profit is almost the same anyway. 🤣
@@throttleblip9854 did you mention the total price of each bike ? i dont recall you say that ?
@@paulclark2624 yes he did
@@jasong712 pretty sure he just gave varibles of prices but never gave the price of special directly ..
@@throttleblip9854 one feature that was not mentioned was the difference in the crash guard.
Black n chrome
Who comes up with these prices?
$995 for RDRS
$995 for the upgraded dash
$995 for the blacked out trim
Oh you want LED signals, that’ll be $995. 😂
Well think if could afford either one probably go with a Special, just for extra bells and whistles and blacked out.
Yes Sir!
Well let me make one point. Sounds to me like you like to knock the street glide standard. Just an observation.
The special. For the same reasons you mentioned. You get along of bang for your buck.
100%
@@throttleblip9854 another thing worth mentioning, is that the CVO is a good value also of you account for everything it comes with. If you were to take a street glide standard and spent the money on the necessary upgrades to make it CVO-like, you'll end up spending twice as much as you would if you simply bought a CVO. Just food for thought.
If I didn't live in one of the coldest parts of the country (Wisconsin) I would buy it tomorrow, kind of pointless when it's just going to sit parked in the garage for at least half the year.....sigh
Bro you gotta get outta there. hahah
I know, right? Good thing the Davidson brothers and Bill Harley didn't settle on Wisconsin to build their bikes. Oh, wait- they did.
Budget would drive my final decision but otherwise I would go with the Special.
Special isn't worth it, chrome belongs on bikes. You take the standard and chrome out the switches and grips and a couple other things and it's sharp, plus everyone just has matt black painted stuff. Chrome!!!!!
No Way
29000 EUR in Italy.....sad but true....the special...
Special all the way
I thought these came with fox shocks dual overhead cams led tail lights . I’m just kidding I know Harley can’t figure it out
You be paying for each of those points.
Stretch bags are ugly . The new gas cap stinks.
Very Ugly. Did you notice the very small heat shields taped between the pipe & the bag? What does that tell you,
that the interior of the saddlebags must get very warm or hot.
They’ve stolen CVO parts for the SGS
It’s Street Ride not “Shreet” Ride!
Another point for the special.. Lmao
This comparison is stupid. You should have called your video, “my personal preference “.