In the Navy this is what we did most days, made something out of nothing. I was on an old 1 of 1 ship with 0 spare parts so we made it all. I miss those times in the old machine shop on Long Beach (CGN-9)
Good job. Those that say why not get a new one. Maybe in there country it easier/cheaper. Have no concept that some countries labour is cheaper and fixing something outweighs replacement. Plus from experience I can say that finding a replacement is very hard sometimes in some countries. Having the infustructure to have retail stores with what you need and within easy reach is just not realistic. Plus doesn’t matter where this is done. He’s doing what CUSTOMER has told him to do.
I love to watch these guys fix all kinds of things we would throw away and get a new one but they save people a lot of money making the old like new again and they do it with just the few tools they have and they are to be admired for their efforts to complete the job no matter how hard or complex it is. GOOD JOB GUYS~!!!
There is nothing wrong with this job. It's done every day in the US. I would have ground everything down to clean metal. Eliminate the old threads altogether. Your job will work fine.😊
You need to use a 60° tool to cut threads for nearly all equipment. That diamond shaped insert will leave a wonky thread form shaped like Acme but with wrong widths.
Nice .. a technique used to do in the beginning of the century. I remember my days at Castolin Eutectic, we learned this method into the industry and trained dozens of engineers how to repair whatever axes, with rods, wire, plasma welding or spraying . The training was mostly a metallurgic training witch filler metal to use for the repair, the way todo is basic mechanical. And yes the lathe was grounded no problems to weld in it… just put protection underneath for the sparks. And yes of course don’t use your best lathe of your shop! When we have to used more than 250amps (sometimes we need 600 or 800amps) we put a rotating earth clamp onto the workpiece.
The bent welding stick and safety flip flops give it away…. But kidding aside, obsolete parts or down time,this would be a repair I’d do if I had a lathe that big.
Reminds me of when I used to rebuild air compressors and pumps , For example , Pump shafts , if it was a considerable size pump and the shaft was badly worn in certain areas We'd send the shaft out and have it metalized where specialized equipment sprays hot metal onto the shaft and it's ground to the original diameter
Yes that’s right. But for some parts and machine is not available for repairing and the cost of machine is hight. Just like spray welding and other. Thank for sharing some method of repairing skill.
Abom79 would've spray welded it, bit of a specialist job though. Wouldn't it have been less hassle to cut the end off, turn down a stub thread it, deep chamfer and then screw a new piece of bar stock on also chamfered, weld it on and then do the machining?
Never weld in a machine, especially when you ust the machine as a ground, the ground is going thru the head bearings, you screw those up your machine is junk.
That would get management fighting mad, to see a millwright welding with ground affixed to a I beam that eventually is connected to what they were welding on.
@@KSMechanicalEngineering Like your thinking, would be quicker to turn the ends and sleeve them and not have a weld in the center that would weaken the shaft and make the overall length shorter
The only issue I saw was when the axles was welded while still chucked in the lathe. I get it was indicated in, but I never saw the ground. Welding while in the spindle can cause arcing across the bearing races or may even cause fluting in the bearings. Not a good practice. Good job other than that!
Ahh. Just where do you get a 100 year old engine lathe to do this on? The cost of replacement spindles in this country are cheaper. Even a new axel is cheap. This may be good for India, Pakistan or Afghanistan. Not sure all the heating and cooling is all that good for the metal hardness and structure. Definitely changes it's makeup. But probably doesn't matter for a donkey cart.
That would be an option if I owned a lathe but I don't. I can do the build-up but then taking it to a machine shop would be costly and time consuming. Much cheaper and faster to just buy a new axle. An axle like that is only a couple hundred dollars and you'd spend that at the machine shop. Most of us don't own lathes especially that big.i have done just that with a spiņle on an antique tractor I restored but an axle like that wouldn't be worth it unless I owned a lathe and knew how to use it.
Dude of course you can fix it if you own a large lathe, I own two lathes but heavy 10 , I sold a 8 foot south end , know One is going to be able to fix, there axle with out one.
Cut shaft off and just weld a 1/2" square plate with four holes to match a bolt oñ hub assembly with correct bolt circle to match rim. Or rear axle from a front drive mini van
The only thing that was saved was the cost of a new steel bar ! The labour cost plus electrode Welding rods, and electricity is possibly equal to the cost of the steel bar and the machine time is the same .. Total waste of time !!!
Sometimes it's not feasible to get new parts. I'm doing something similar right now with an old boat part that you cannot buy. I'm also inclined to put in a lot of labor into things just to use the old part and maybe give it character.
The title doesn’t add up I’d have a new one replaced before you’d done the first lot of welding why are the video titles always lies it’s not necessary
Scrap the shaft. Machine a new one and new nut. Only a fool would risk a vehicle accident due to a crude repair. A worn shaft has cracks, stress, and fatigue due to its excessive long use.
Making a new shaft is best choice for all the mechanician i think. But we should of cost and other material. In some country the material price is very hight and rare to find on the market. So in some reason we have to do this for the best choice. Thank for sharing this opinion.
@KSMechanicalEngineering some of these things thay repair have not been used for years gear box repairs not a sign of oil axle rusty and the spline hasn't been in contact with the diff for year just rubbish laying around there just done to make a show you never see the vehicle going with repaired part👍
If you're hoping adding the tag "@Abom79" to your description will suddenly improve your channel views, sorry bud, but your skills didn't miraculously improve by doing so.👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻
In the Navy this is what we did most days, made something out of nothing. I was on an old 1 of 1 ship with 0 spare parts so we made it all. I miss those times in the old machine shop on Long Beach (CGN-9)
Yes. You used to be work on the machine. So did well in your skill. Thank
Thank You for Your Service!😂
@@DieselDog358 welcome
It's Amazing the repairs these Men Do!
Thanks
Good job. Those that say why not get a new one. Maybe in there country it easier/cheaper. Have no concept that some countries labour is cheaper and fixing something outweighs replacement. Plus from experience I can say that finding a replacement is very hard sometimes in some countries. Having the infustructure to have retail stores with what you need and within easy reach is just not realistic. Plus doesn’t matter where this is done. He’s doing what CUSTOMER has told him to do.
Yes it hard to find and high cost for replacing a new shaft
Well said and thanks~!
I love to watch these guys fix all kinds of things we would throw away and get a new one but they save people a lot of money making the old like new again and they do it with just the few tools they have and they are to be admired for their efforts to complete the job no matter how hard or complex it is. GOOD JOB GUYS~!!!
Thank brother
There is nothing wrong with this job. It's done every day in the US. I would have ground everything down to clean metal. Eliminate the old threads altogether. Your job will work fine.😊
Yes thanks. Man
Agreed~!!
You need to use a 60° tool to cut threads for nearly all equipment. That diamond shaped insert will leave a wonky thread form shaped like Acme but with wrong widths.
Yes. Thank for sharing
Weld on a stub axle. One weld and done. Use a piece of angle for a jig. You are putting a lot of heat into a surface a bearing will ride.
This guy is a Genius with that Big Leith (spelling)~!!! Much fun to watch him work his Magic~!!!
Nice .. a technique used to do in the beginning of the century. I remember my days at Castolin Eutectic, we learned this method into the industry and trained dozens of engineers how to repair whatever axes, with rods, wire, plasma welding or spraying . The training was mostly a metallurgic training witch filler metal to use for the repair, the way todo is basic mechanical. And yes the lathe was grounded no problems to weld in it… just put protection underneath for the sparks. And yes of course don’t use your best lathe of your shop! When we have to used more than 250amps (sometimes we need 600 or 800amps) we put a rotating earth clamp onto the workpiece.
Yes. Thank for sharing the best method on lathe skill
The bent welding stick and safety flip flops give it away…. But kidding aside, obsolete parts or down time,this would be a repair I’d do if I had a lathe that big.
Yes thank brother
Nicely done!
Thanks for the visit
Reminds me of when I used to rebuild air compressors and pumps ,
For example , Pump shafts , if it was a considerable size pump and the shaft was badly worn in certain areas
We'd send the shaft out and have it metalized where specialized equipment sprays hot metal onto the shaft and it's ground to the original diameter
Yes that’s right. But for some parts and machine is not available for repairing and the cost of machine is hight. Just like spray welding and other. Thank for sharing some method of repairing skill.
how can iy be faster than replacing if you already have it off the trailer?
It is low cost and faster than making a new shaft
What if no parts available.
@@txrick4879 machining a new shaft. Thank for sharing
Soon as I saw the chipping hammer I knew where this was and what quality it was going to be.
Yes you can quest it. How the quality we expected
Abom79 would've spray welded it, bit of a specialist job though. Wouldn't it have been less hassle to cut the end off, turn down a stub thread it, deep chamfer and then screw a new piece of bar stock on also chamfered, weld it on and then do the machining?
Yes brother
@@KSMechanicalEngineering Good job though, gets it back on the road.
@@RichardSmith-wr6go yes thanks
Never weld in a machine, especially when you ust the machine as a ground, the ground is going thru the head bearings, you screw those up your machine is junk.
We weld on the machine for some part and the machine was old
I doubt if they care much about the machine. They’re probably lucky to make enough money in a day to buy food
@@keithhicks9196 no not all of that reason
That would get management fighting mad, to see a millwright welding with ground affixed to a I beam that eventually is connected to what they were welding on.
@@sammylacks4937 yes. Thank for sharing
Why not cut the axle in half and machine the profile on both the cut ends, then weld the other ends together?
I think if we do that we need more time to repair
@@KSMechanicalEngineering
Like your thinking, would be quicker to turn the ends and sleeve them and not have a weld in the center that would weaken the shaft and make the overall length shorter
@@jaysoncheney thank for sharing
good work sir.
Yes thank
7018 3/32 roll axle weld around keeps shaft straight.
Yes thanks
Not a bad repair I done this method on numerous occasions, but I build up using mig than less chance of an inclusion.
Yes
Yeah but mig requires argon and it may not be available 😊
The only issue I saw was when the axles was welded while still chucked in the lathe. I get it was indicated in, but I never saw the ground. Welding while in the spindle can cause arcing across the bearing races or may even cause fluting in the bearings. Not a good practice. Good job other than that!
Yes thank man. It would be connect to protect the bearing but sometime i have to.
Threading a different shaft?
Stress relieved? Heat treated?
Yes. Maybe
Ahh. Just where do you get a 100 year old engine lathe to do this on? The cost of replacement spindles in this country are cheaper. Even a new axel is cheap. This may be good for India, Pakistan or Afghanistan. Not sure all the heating and cooling is all that good for the metal hardness and structure. Definitely changes it's makeup. But probably doesn't matter for a donkey cart.
Yes. This shaft for 2wheel tractor. We can be call a cart.
This is pretty funny. It’s one of those 3rd world shops you see on YT these days who threw Abom into the title to catch his viewers. Pretty smart.
good job but quit using that 7024 and go with 7018 the fluks on 7024 is to watery,7018 will give a better weld......
Yes thank
Yea i perfer 7018 ..i was not sure what rod they used . Nice job though
@@jimkillen1065 thanks
@@jimkillen1065they used whatever they coul get their hands on!
Thats simple, weld it back up turn it down to fit the barring and re temper it. Ive done it several times.
Yes man
welding on a shaft break whole shaft..it hardens
It hardens. But we can machine it
@@KSMechanicalEngineering weld it again after it snaps the axle off under load a someone ends up like mole's asses ? No not for me thank you.
@@danthurman9076 yes
Depends on the steel.
You should put a radius behind the bearing fit.
Yes. Thanks
That would be an option if I owned a lathe but I don't. I can do the build-up but then taking it to a machine shop would be costly and time consuming. Much cheaper and faster to just buy a new axle. An axle like that is only a couple hundred dollars and you'd spend that at the machine shop. Most of us don't own lathes especially that big.i have done just that with a spiņle on an antique tractor I restored but an axle like that wouldn't be worth it unless I owned a lathe and knew how to use it.
Yes of course we need a new axle.but customer want to repair this
Your lathe hates you for welding in it and not grounding to the workpiece.
Yes sometime i have to weld on it
Don't be in awe,they do this because they have to ,it's not the right way.
Hmm, better to machine it down and machine a new sleave and press it on. Much better than this lash up.
Yes
But then we have no drama
Exactly what I was thinking 😂
Itl warp n bend .. needs heat treatment, no....?
We will adjust it by machining. Thank for your sharing
Dude of course you can fix it if you own a large lathe, I own two lathes but heavy 10 , I sold a 8 foot south end , know One is going to be able to fix, there axle with out one.
Yes
Never weld round stock this way
Yes of course we need to machine a new one but we hard to find the steel bar and high cost for material
good ideas❤❤❤
Thanks
They didn’t show how tight the nut was when finished because it was slack by the speed he could spin it on
M39*4 fitting right.
i like the stick for that
Thanks
I've done that a thousand times.
Nice. Work
But I had a CNC lathe.
@@Twilightzoneisreal precision machine. I love it
It's something that gets in your blood for sure. I still love learning how others would do things. Well done.
Well done but bearing slides on so easy. You will need loctite to fit it.
Yes Thanks
And how is that faster than replacing?
Low cost
Cut shaft off and just weld a 1/2" square plate with four holes to match a bolt oñ hub assembly with correct bolt circle to match rim. Or rear axle from a front drive mini van
And that's that.
Listen on process...
Yes
Welding the stub axle creates alot of stresses. Not a good idea.
Yes but we have no choice
Not an indicator in sight
This is the easy way?
Low cost and easy
Big deal .so how do u know how hard or brittle the end result will be .don't risk using this on a busy road .it can snap off anytime .
After repairing. The heat of welding will be effect to shaft.
This looks longer than replacing, but if you can't get the replacement, then all bets are off.
Maybe a bit longer
The only thing that was saved was the cost of a new steel bar !
The labour cost plus electrode Welding rods, and electricity is possibly equal to the cost of the steel bar and the machine time is the same .. Total waste of time !!!
It is about 60-80$ for new steel bar cost at my region and machining cost is due to the work shop
How much did he charg?
@@six4standingtall about 60$ for welding and machining
Sometimes it's not feasible to get new parts. I'm doing something similar right now with an old boat part that you cannot buy. I'm also inclined to put in a lot of labor into things just to use the old part and maybe give it character.
@@spyder2383ok
Cool to watch if you can't get stubs
Yes
Muy bueno pero falto más ajuste en la rosca
Yes thanks
The title doesn’t add up I’d have a new one replaced before you’d done the first lot of welding why are the video titles always lies it’s not necessary
This type of axle shaft isn’t available for replacement. If we want it we need to machine. Thank
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yea, that's faster than replacing....
Yeah
Scrap the shaft. Machine a new one and new nut. Only a fool would risk a vehicle accident due to a crude repair. A worn shaft has cracks, stress, and fatigue due to its excessive long use.
Making a new shaft is best choice for all the mechanician i think. But we should of cost and other material. In some country the material price is very hight and rare to find on the market. So in some reason we have to do this for the best choice. Thank for sharing this opinion.
I would have just turned it out and heat shunk a tube over it...
Yes
Sure thing, everybody's got a lathe with a thru hole large enough to accept a 4" axle shaft.
My lathe spindle hole is up to 90mm. Thanks
faster? no. and you have to have a lathe that can handle it. nevertheless, good job.
We need to have the machine. Thank man
Just cut it off and make a new on the lathe..
That’s a good method. Thank
@KSMechanicalEngineering it's actually faster and safer
Abom79😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
weld er up
Yeah
If thay maintained there gear it woudnt have to be fixed or replaced 😂😂😂😂
Yes brother
@KSMechanicalEngineering some of these things thay repair have not been used for years gear box repairs not a sign of oil axle rusty and the spline hasn't been in contact with the diff for year just rubbish laying around there just done to make a show you never see the vehicle going with repaired part👍
@@garrypritchard1658 yes
I know a better way,...just wrap a old pop can around it ,....done!
Yes
does anybody else notice this guy wearing flip flops or just me
Yeah i did not wear the safety shoes. Thank man
@@KSMechanicalEngineering i used to do alot of my welding in flip flops and tank top shirt. i like it.
Sure not faster then replacing it
Yeah. Thank. It is not faster than. And we can find the shaft supplier from market.
Knurl it or sleeve it ,make new nuts.
Yes
Chuck it away and buy a new one.🇦🇺
Yes
Absolutely terrile job.
Yes brother
@@pbysome Yes some guys just gotta be Down Debbies~!!
See this is whats wrong ....those people are buying up e erything.. and do shit work
If you're hoping adding the tag "@Abom79" to your description will suddenly improve your channel views, sorry bud, but your skills didn't miraculously improve by doing so.👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻
It would be cheaper to buy a new one than pay a rigged to bring that into your garage. Wake up
Yes should be. But this parts is not on the market. If we want it would be machine from the shop. Thank man