ID guy is among my favorites as well, so that's big praise. We have similar styles - He's explicitly more on the design side of things where I'm more market/marketing/positioning but we approach things in the same kind of analytical way. Thanks!!!! 😃😃😃
As a yacht racer myself, I do not have an issue with watch-yachting collaborations, but I would only wear a luxury watch in the yacht club bar after racing. When I'm actually racing, I need a Casio G-Shock or similar for two reasons - I need a digital count down timer for timing the start of the race, and I need a watch that I dont care if if gets scratched or bashed.
I have on occasion been known to function as forward crew / trimmer and I tend to agree - It's G-shocks or garmins or other specialised equipment that finds it's way onto sailors wrists for racing. Not a Tudor, Rolex or IWC... 😃
I thought about getting this watch but would it take a bash or knock on a wall or gate etc? Like most of my watches they stay in a draw afraid to be worn in practical, rugged, outdoor conditions in case of being scratched or dented. I think the way forward is the victorinox inox automatic with a detachable rubber bumper has absolutely nailed it,its completely bash and scratch proof and you'll never worry again, . I wish other much higher end brands would use this system..
What an amazing video! Lots of Good stuff and info. I love this watch, and I kinda like the text on it, it directly connects it and I think it looks good. Bs the price man, the price is incredible, I am sold on the time only, like really sold on it, for me its a homerun, and since so many people seem to dislike it it becomes an underdog, which I like even more! Thanks again my friend, I least enjoy your videos!
Bang on the money, as always! Your marketing/ manufacturing dialogue made me chuckle with recognition, and contextually of course it explains so much. Excellent! You continue to be my favourite watch guy
For me, Tudor hit it out of the park with this watch. The time only is a masterpiece. I don’t care about the Red Bull text the same way I don’t care about faux rivets on The BB58. I love the dial color and red accents. The interplay between the different materials , textures and bezel, crown and case color is deeply pleasing. The fixed lugs are perfect for this interpretation. For me it’s the most interesting watch Tudor sells right now.
Here's the thing - I ended up buying the chrono version. I notice the red bull logo but there's so much that's great about this watch overall. They've done really well... 😀😀
Lol! 😂 You’re too kind. 😀😀😀 Odds are all the excessive time I spend using mental energy thinking about watches, you’re likely putting into something far more useful for society. Thanks for keeping on coming back 😀
Since doing the video, my opinion has shifted a bit , and although I'm still not a fan of the red bull text, I'm leaning more and more into the rest 😀😀
I like the design but just cant imagine myself buying one. It might age as well as the Moon swatch. Carbon composite is exquisite plastic with lots of engineering properties that make it fantastic but its still plastic. Don't get me wrong, I like it but if I would buy a Tudor it would not be this one. I think you are quite right in saying that this is a lazy and safe collaboration attempt but it will probably sell really well. Have a great weekend! 💪💪
@@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch As a friend of mine said the other day... If they spend half as much time practicing rugby than they do making ads and collabs we should be okay haha!
Great video and a top notch description of the FXD Alinghi RB Racing. I like the colorway very much, but - like you said - i wish Tudor left the chapter ring clean, especially for the chrono. 👍
100% in agreement: the deal breaker for me is the Red Bull text. I can forgive them the fixed lugs, as working on a yacht that's in heavy waters is probably as challenging as diving, so the safety factor of not popping out a spring bar is cheap insurance.
Thanks for the very thoughtful review. I tried on the Chrono today and I really liked it. The mix of colours and materials make the watch interesting, as you say. The Red Bull text is the sort of thing which looks prominent in photos but is less so in real life. Certainly it’s the sort of thing that I could tune out in a day or two of ownership (I have a Rolex Deepsea Seadweller and quite happily tune out the novel that’s written on the dial and just focus on the beautiful blue black dial and telling the time). The worst thing for me was the strap. It feels cheap. Given that most owners of the watch will not be racing yachts it would be good to give them the option of something more luxurious and substantial.
Interesting reflections. I know from others that the strap on this and the MN often something people have "mixed feelings" about. Either because it's velcro or because of the perception of quality. Your own view largely supports that perspective. Personally I like the colour combo, but I'm not big on the velcro. It always ends up looking worn out very quickly. Glad you liked the vid 😀😀😀
I think quality wise it's an excellent watch for the money. The color scheme is appealing and for the advertisement on the rehaut you get a 10% discount on the watch compared to blue or black fxd. Some people like that, more people don't for selling out
Had this very light watch on the wrist. Dont like fixed lugs but I think my brother would like it. He loves being in the water. Did not see the chrono and wondered if you could press the pushers under water....no locks on them.
I pretty much agree with you. The FXD Marine National was the first Tudor I was really impressed with, both for the look and feel and because of the back story. But I never bought it. In the end this great Tudor diver is just another diver. When I saw the Alinghi being announced I thought along the lines you described... "Man, they just had to ruin the FXD". But when I saw it in person I was sold, 30 min later I was the proud owner of the non-chrono version of the Tudor FXD Alinghi, and it's one of my favorite watches. Also, I have to admit that the hate towards this watch from some Tudor fans makes the wearing experience even better. I have a similar thing with my black DLC Breitling Navitimer 8, which was quickly renamed Aviator 8 in fear of Navitimer fans burning the factory down. Sometimes, hate is good.
As it may be the case for many. 😂 However.... Spoke to an AD on my vacation and he said that he was sure it would sell reasonably well based on preorders.
For the purpose I am looking for, this watch fits perfectly. I want a workout/swim/running watch with a count down bezel that I do not need to worry about getting scratched. This does it and it does it very nicely. Sure I could wear a gshock, which I have a couple, but I enjoy wearing my "luxury" watches in all occasions, so for my purpose this is perfect.
@@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch It was an impulse buy. Was at my AD for a Tudor for my son. Guess what, he makes me a deal for two watches. What could I do? My son really wanted that Tudor. Which one you ask? The Royal. That's quite a surprise to me. A 16 year old can pick any Tudor and he goes for the Royal...
Can’t help feeling the new Tissot Sideral with its similar yachting aesthetic and use case design (even down to the forged carbon case) for a quarter of the price looks the better option, if you’re a yachter… and no gaudy third-party branding.
I'm ok with the text on the rehaut, having a Bull or some other sh*t as picture would have been terrible in my eyes I think it's a cool watch, but i certainly would experiment with other straps since i don't like velcro that much
Yeah - I even consider a lumed bull (Like they did on the new planet ocean “omega was here”) but I think they could have done this: - make the rehaut steel, like on a rolex and just etch the text onto the steel in a thinner font. That way it would be there but far less noticable and just more subtle overall Or. Crazy idea. Just not do it. There is after all a giant bull on the case back… 😀😀
I agree. The watch looks great, but the rehaut text is tacky and will turn off potential customers. Surprised they couldn’t negotiate their way out of that choice and just have the text on the case-back.
Great review and critique as usual. The aesthetic design and branding aside the one big problem with Tudor chronos is that the snowflake hand was originally intended to be oversized for dive watch legibility. On a chronograph it is totally useless as it obscures the sub registers making the function useless.
Never actually reflected on the snowflake hand and the chrono function, but I totally see what you're getting at. Form over function clearly... Thanks for the perspective 😀👍
As an FXD owner, I'm in the small minority who feels like this release complete devalues the intent of the original FXD, completely to your point. I wish they would have repurposed another watch, and changed the colors, but alas, here we are - and unless they bring out ANOTHER collab, hard to say if we'll see it again like this. With that said, MN is a collab, but it felt more purpose built is I guess my point, to echo your point as well.
If I don’t think about it’s purpose and assign my own purpose I love it!! I want a luxury watch for open water swimming and the chrono comes very close. Esp if I can use the pushers in the water. But if I think about sailing too much I go cold on it. Btw can you compare and contrast this with tag’s skipper watch??
I’m trying to get hands on on the skipper. There are not a lot of tag dealers nearby but it should hit an AD soon and then I’ll make my way by. I’ve seen the first glassbox and I think it’s a reallt cool design overall so my hunch is the skipper is going to tick a few boxes for me. Who knows, maybe tag will finally come out of the dog house? 😀😀😀
Sad thing is... I ended up buying the chrono. I know, but I've really warmed to it. Can still see the red bull text, but my mind has just erased it... 😀😀
I don’t know why people just try to look at the text so closely and complain so much about it. Actually looking from straight above, they look like minute markers.
Don’t quite agree. I ended up buying the chrono, and personally I notice it regularly. It doesn’t bother me in the slightest but I’m always aware that it’s there…. 😀
To me, this FXD is hard sale. I simply demand ceramic bezels before I’d consider a diver. That’s the only reason I don’t buy the first release. Being an actual diver, a traditional diving watch is the last thing I’ll bring underwater today. Daydate is much more likely to be worn daily.
Today I went to the Tudor boutique and tried it. It fits nice (unlike the BlackBay models) and I loved the aesthetics. I'm looking for a watch without a date window and and I think I will take it.
I love the design of the Chrono so much that I'm seriously considering buying one. However the Red Moo thing is the one downer. In terms of investment, I'm not sure that it will maintain value as the Alinghi Red Moo partnership could come to an end and the text alienates many people who would otherwise love the watch. The watch totally rocks but would be way better without the Red Moo text
I just bought the chrono and the red bull logo is barely noticeable. You have to look for it to see it. Love the design, colours, retro sporty look and particularly its light weight, thinness and fit- so comfortable.
This repurposing is nothing new, right? I have yet to hear a Porsche owner slag off a VW Beetle for being slower, it is the people's car. It is all about the DNA. Taking the FXD and turning it into a racer at a cheaper price is the thing that surprises me!
Nope - This is pretty common. Sometimes it leads to good things. Other times it’s just off. I agree though - the thing that surprises is the price point 😀
You sir and ID Guy are the two thinking man's watch reviewers....good job
ID guy is among my favorites as well, so that's big praise. We have similar styles - He's explicitly more on the design side of things where I'm more market/marketing/positioning but we approach things in the same kind of analytical way.
Thanks!!!! 😃😃😃
I love it. In fact, I love it so much that I just bought another unit today for my son's upcoming 21st birthday.
Both also time only😊.😊😊😊
Lucky him 😀😀
As a yacht racer myself, I do not have an issue with watch-yachting collaborations, but I would only wear a luxury watch in the yacht club bar after racing. When I'm actually racing, I need a Casio G-Shock or similar for two reasons - I need a digital count down timer for timing the start of the race, and I need a watch that I dont care if if gets scratched or bashed.
I have on occasion been known to function as forward crew / trimmer and I tend to agree - It's G-shocks or garmins or other specialised equipment that finds it's way onto sailors wrists for racing. Not a Tudor, Rolex or IWC... 😃
I thought about getting this watch but would it take a bash or knock on a wall or gate etc? Like most of my watches they stay in a draw afraid to be worn in practical, rugged, outdoor conditions in case of being scratched or dented. I think the way forward is the victorinox inox automatic with a detachable rubber bumper has absolutely nailed it,its completely bash and scratch proof and you'll never worry again, . I wish other much higher end brands would use this system..
The fxd looks cooler after some bashing and scratching
What an amazing video! Lots of Good stuff and info. I love this watch, and I kinda like the text on it, it directly connects it and I think it looks good. Bs the price man, the price is incredible, I am sold on the time only, like really sold on it, for me its a homerun, and since so many people seem to dislike it it becomes an underdog, which I like even more! Thanks again my friend, I least enjoy your videos!
Glad you enjoyed it! 😀😀
Bang on the money, as always!
Your marketing/ manufacturing dialogue made me chuckle with recognition, and contextually of course it explains so much.
Excellent! You continue to be my favourite watch guy
Lol 😂 If you’ve ever been anywhere in corporate you know those kinds of conversations where you just think “Have the senior execs lost the plot?” 😀😀😀
For me, Tudor hit it out of the park with this watch. The time only is a masterpiece. I don’t care about the Red Bull text the same way I don’t care about faux rivets on The BB58. I love the dial color and red accents. The interplay between the different materials , textures and bezel, crown and case color is deeply pleasing. The fixed lugs are perfect for this interpretation. For me it’s the most interesting watch Tudor sells right now.
Here's the thing - I ended up buying the chrono version. I notice the red bull logo but there's so much that's great about this watch overall. They've done really well... 😀😀
Great points, and review. I just tried it on today, absolutely loved it. Will get the time only this week.
Every video - *every video* - you raise some point that I never thought of and haven't seen on any other TH-cam channel. How do you do that?????
Lol! 😂 You’re too kind. 😀😀😀
Odds are all the excessive time I spend using mental energy thinking about watches, you’re likely putting into something far more useful for society.
Thanks for keeping on coming back 😀
Fantastic review, I was gripped. Thank you!
Glad to hear it 😀
great video!! i love both and i dont know why. think the dark blue is very interesting colour and carbon case
Since doing the video, my opinion has shifted a bit , and although I'm still not a fan of the red bull text, I'm leaning more and more into the rest 😀😀
I like the design but just cant imagine myself buying one. It might age as well as the Moon swatch. Carbon composite is exquisite plastic with lots of engineering properties that make it fantastic but its still plastic. Don't get me wrong, I like it but if I would buy a Tudor it would not be this one. I think you are quite right in saying that this is a lazy and safe collaboration attempt but it will probably sell really well. Have a great weekend! 💪💪
After the rugby result the weekend was a bit ruined…. 😳
@@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch As a friend of mine said the other day... If they spend half as much time practicing rugby than they do making ads and collabs we should be okay haha!
Great video and a top notch description of the FXD Alinghi RB Racing. I like the colorway very much, but - like you said - i wish Tudor left the chapter ring clean, especially for the chrono. 👍
Thanks for sharing 😀
100% in agreement: the deal breaker for me is the Red Bull text. I can forgive them the fixed lugs, as working on a yacht that's in heavy waters is probably as challenging as diving, so the safety factor of not popping out a spring bar is cheap insurance.
Thanks for the very thoughtful review. I tried on the Chrono today and I really liked it. The mix of colours and materials make the watch interesting, as you say. The Red Bull text is the sort of thing which looks prominent in photos but is less so in real life. Certainly it’s the sort of thing that I could tune out in a day or two of ownership (I have a Rolex Deepsea Seadweller and quite happily tune out the novel that’s written on the dial and just focus on the beautiful blue black dial and telling the time). The worst thing for me was the strap. It feels cheap. Given that most owners of the watch will not be racing yachts it would be good to give them the option of something more luxurious and substantial.
Interesting reflections. I know from others that the strap on this and the MN often something people have "mixed feelings" about. Either because it's velcro or because of the perception of quality. Your own view largely supports that perspective.
Personally I like the colour combo, but I'm not big on the velcro. It always ends up looking worn out very quickly.
Glad you liked the vid 😀😀😀
I think quality wise it's an excellent watch for the money. The color scheme is appealing and for the advertisement on the rehaut you get a 10% discount on the watch compared to blue or black fxd. Some people like that, more people don't for selling out
Had this very light watch on the wrist. Dont like fixed lugs but I think my brother would like it. He loves being in the water. Did not see the chrono and wondered if you could press the pushers under water....no locks on them.
Didn’t consider that about the pushers m - will have to ask next time I’m at the AD
I pretty much agree with you. The FXD Marine National was the first Tudor I was really impressed with, both for the look and feel and because of the back story. But I never bought it. In the end this great Tudor diver is just another diver. When I saw the Alinghi being announced I thought along the lines you described... "Man, they just had to ruin the FXD". But when I saw it in person I was sold, 30 min later I was the proud owner of the non-chrono version of the Tudor FXD Alinghi, and it's one of my favorite watches. Also, I have to admit that the hate towards this watch from some Tudor fans makes the wearing experience even better. I have a similar thing with my black DLC Breitling Navitimer 8, which was quickly renamed Aviator 8 in fear of Navitimer fans burning the factory down. Sometimes, hate is good.
Great watch, pity about the Redbull script. Won’t be on my shopping list 😢
As it may be the case for many. 😂
However.... Spoke to an AD on my vacation and he said that he was sure it would sell reasonably well based on preorders.
For the purpose I am looking for, this watch fits perfectly. I want a workout/swim/running watch with a count down bezel that I do not need to worry about getting scratched. This does it and it does it very nicely. Sure I could wear a gshock, which I have a couple, but I enjoy wearing my "luxury" watches in all occasions, so for my purpose this is perfect.
It definitely has that active vibe to it… 😀🤙
I just bought one. I did not like the 'red bull alingi' either. But love the overall look. Just a difficult colourscheme to buy aftermarket nato's....
Yeah. Black and blue does limit your colour options
@@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch It was an impulse buy. Was at my AD for a Tudor for my son. Guess what, he makes me a deal for two watches. What could I do? My son really wanted that Tudor. Which one you ask? The Royal. That's quite a surprise to me. A 16 year old can pick any Tudor and he goes for the Royal...
Can’t help feeling the new Tissot Sideral with its similar yachting aesthetic and use case design (even down to the forged carbon case) for a quarter of the price looks the better option, if you’re a yachter… and no gaudy third-party branding.
I completely agree. Good looking watch with a quirky and interesting function at almost a 'fun' price
It’s definitely an option and a whole lot more “fun”. Will be posting my thught on the sideral soon. It has a lot going for it… 😀
Don’t care for the rehaut branding. But not as bad as the Rolex Dominos dial 😎! Best regards
Lol!!!! Fair point. I do trump you with one AP spiderman…. 😳😂
Great review.
Thank you 😀
now how about the cycling version?
I'm ok with the text on the rehaut, having a Bull or some other sh*t as picture would have been terrible in my eyes
I think it's a cool watch, but i certainly would experiment with other straps since i don't like velcro that much
Yeah - I even consider a lumed bull (Like they did on the new planet ocean “omega was here”) but I think they could have done this:
- make the rehaut steel, like on a rolex and just etch the text onto the steel in a thinner font. That way it would be there but far less noticable and just more subtle overall
Or. Crazy idea. Just not do it. There is after all a giant bull on the case back… 😀😀
I agree. The watch looks great, but the rehaut text is tacky and will turn off potential customers. Surprised they couldn’t negotiate their way out of that choice and just have the text on the case-back.
I'm surprised it was even necessary, It's not like the owner won't know that it's a red bull watch with the giant bull on the back of the case... 🤣🤣
I love the look of this watch - the blue is spectacular. But the Red Bull branding completely ruins it for me.
Great review and critique as usual. The aesthetic design and branding aside the one big problem with Tudor chronos is that the snowflake hand was originally intended to be oversized for dive watch legibility. On a chronograph it is totally useless as it obscures the sub registers making the function useless.
Never actually reflected on the snowflake hand and the chrono function, but I totally see what you're getting at. Form over function clearly... Thanks for the perspective 😀👍
As an FXD owner, I'm in the small minority who feels like this release complete devalues the intent of the original FXD, completely to your point. I wish they would have repurposed another watch, and changed the colors, but alas, here we are - and unless they bring out ANOTHER collab, hard to say if we'll see it again like this. With that said, MN is a collab, but it felt more purpose built is I guess my point, to echo your point as well.
Totally get where you're coming from. Thx for sharing your thoughts 😀
This version is for RedBull marketing/sales team and youtube influencers.
Lol. Maybe 😀😂
If I don’t think about it’s purpose and assign my own purpose I love it!! I want a luxury watch for open water swimming and the chrono comes very close. Esp if I can use the pushers in the water. But if I think about sailing too much I go cold on it. Btw can you compare and contrast this with tag’s skipper watch??
I’m trying to get hands on on the skipper. There are not a lot of tag dealers nearby but it should hit an AD soon and then I’ll make my way by.
I’ve seen the first glassbox and I think it’s a reallt cool design overall so my hunch is the skipper is going to tick a few boxes for me.
Who knows, maybe tag will finally come out of the dog house? 😀😀😀
Lol the FXD is one of Tudors best selling watches outside the bb58. Very high demand. Its actually one if their best and most pure tool watches.
Great analysis… I think the red bull rehaut printing is cheap.
It’s not ideal 😀
If the red bull nonsense was on the caseback, I'd buy this watch.
Sad thing is... I ended up buying the chrono. I know, but I've really warmed to it. Can still see the red bull text, but my mind has just erased it... 😀😀
@@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch I think the chrono is beautiful! Great choice.
I don’t know why people just try to look at the text so closely and complain so much about it. Actually looking from straight above, they look like minute markers.
Don’t quite agree. I ended up buying the chrono, and personally I notice it regularly. It doesn’t bother me in the slightest but I’m always aware that it’s there…. 😀
To me, this FXD is hard sale. I simply demand ceramic bezels before I’d consider a diver.
That’s the only reason I don’t buy the first release.
Being an actual diver, a traditional diving watch is the last thing I’ll bring underwater today.
Daydate is much more likely to be worn daily.
Today I went to the Tudor boutique and tried it. It fits nice (unlike the BlackBay models) and I loved the aesthetics. I'm looking for a watch without a date window and and I think I will take it.
Always buy what you like! 😃😃😃
The problem for me is the "red bull racing" text. Its just tacky.
Yup. Not ideal 😀
Tacky is actually okay for a ⛵ watch as they tack all day. It's what they do!
I love the design of the Chrono so much that I'm seriously considering buying one. However the Red Moo thing is the one downer. In terms of investment, I'm not sure that it will maintain value as the Alinghi Red Moo partnership could come to an end and the text alienates many people who would otherwise love the watch. The watch totally rocks but would be way better without the Red Moo text
I just bought the chrono and the red bull logo is barely noticeable. You have to look for it to see it. Love the design, colours, retro sporty look and particularly its light weight, thinness and fit- so comfortable.
it made the marine nationale FXD less special for me so not only do I not like this version, it made me like my titanium FXD less.
This repurposing is nothing new, right? I have yet to hear a Porsche owner slag off a VW Beetle for being slower, it is the people's car. It is all about the DNA. Taking the FXD and turning it into a racer at a cheaper price is the thing that surprises me!
Nope - This is pretty common. Sometimes it leads to good things. Other times it’s just off.
I agree though - the thing that surprises is the price point 😀
Good stuff imo you got your format down
Thanks. Glad you liked it 😀
The Pelagos brand is being diluted and not in a good way - the new release has too many colors and too many markings
It's definitely being expanded quite about to encompass far more variety. For many that's not a good thing
Thanks for contributing😃